* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] GOOD [A. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] EVENING. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY VICE CHAIR GILBERT GRAHAM TO FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS ON NATION UNDER INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. THANK YOU. UM, IT IS SIX O'CLOCK AND WE [B. REGULAR SESSION - CALL TO ORDER] ARE CALLING THE REGULAR SESSION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER. UM, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, UH, IN ATTENDANCE. ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS ARE HERE TODAY. UM, TO MY RIGHT, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER ALEXIS, COMMISSIONER EDWARDS, COMMISSIONER LARO, MYSELF, CHAIR TANYA BROOKS TO MY LEFT VICE-CHAIR, UH, GRAHAM, COMMISSIONER JONES AND COMMISSIONER BERRY STAFF PRESENT. WE HAVE, UM, OUR PLANNING MANAGER, MRS. JORDAN. WE HAVE OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, MS. COLTON HERE. UH, WE HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY. WE HAVE BOTH MS. PATEL AND MS. ROSS HERE TODAY, SO THANK YOU. UM, THE FIRST ITEM [C. CITIZEN APPEARANCES The Planning and Zoning Commission invites citizens to address the Commissioners on any topic not already scheduled for Public Hearing. Citizens wishing to speak should complete a "Citizen Comment Card" and return it to the table prior to the meeting. In accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Act, the Planning and Zoning Commission cannot take action on items not listed on the agenda. However, your concerns may be addressed by City Staff, placed on a future agenda, or responded to by some other course. Anyone desiring to speak on an item scheduled for a Public Hearing is requested to hold their comments until the Public Hearing on that item.] ON THE AGENDA TODAY IS AGENDA ITEM C, CITIZEN. APPEARANCES. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSIONERS ON ANY TOPIC NOT ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING. CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK SHOULD COMPLETE A CITIZEN COMMENT CARD AND RETURN IT TO THE TABLE PRIOR TO THE MEETING. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CANNOT TAKE ACTION ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. HOWEVER, YOUR CONCERNS MAY BE ADDRESSED BY CITY STAFF PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA ARE RESPONDED TO BY SOME OTHER COURSE. ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUESTED TO HOLD THEIR COMMENTS UNTIL THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT ITEM. STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, MA'AM. THANK YOU. [D. CONSENT AGENDA Any item may be withdrawn from the consent agenda and acted on separately. Approval of the Consent Agenda authorizes the approval of each item in accordance with Staff Recommendations.] GOING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM D, OUR CONSENT AGENDA. THERE ARE TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. UM, ANY ITEM MAY BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND ACTED ON SEPARATELY. APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES THE APPROVAL OF EACH ITEM IN ACCORDANCE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, WE ARE ACTING ON THESE AGENDA ITEMS SEPARATELY. ITEM D ONE, APPROVAL OF MINUTES. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF AUGUST 11TH, 2026. COMMISSIONER SUE, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. A AYE AYE. AND THAT, UH, IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER TWO, CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PARKS RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY PLAT CREATING 10 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND FOUR NON-RESIDENTIAL LOTS. THE PROPERTY IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING CURTIS PARKS ABSTRACT 1124 PG 360 9 TRACK, 10 A CS FIVE ACRES 5.695, AND ADDRESSED AS 5 41 SOUTH PARKS DRIVE, DESOTO, TEXAS 7 5 1 1 5. THE APPLICANT IS LUKE CAREWAY PE OF VIEWPOINT LAND SOLUTIONS, AND THE OWNER IS TEXAS H AND H CONSTRUCTION INC. AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER PP DASH 3 56 26. THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WILL NOT BE PRESENTED FOR CONSIDERATION AT TODAY'S HEARING. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A 30 DAY EXTENSION TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME TO REVIEW OF THE PLAT. ACCORDINGLY, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WILL BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. NEXT ITEM ON [E. PUBLIC HEARING] OUR AGENDA IS EA PUBLIC HEARING. NUMBER ONE, CONTINUE A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE DECI DESOTO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 0 1 PD 1 0 1 FOR APPROXIMATELY 17.1499 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THE WEST INTERSECTION OF SOUTHWEST MORELAND ROAD AND WELL, I'M SORRY, AND WEST BELTLINE ROAD ADDRESSED AS 800 WEST BELTLINE ROAD, DESOTO, TEXAS, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS GEORGE F. PORTER. ABSTRACT [00:05:01] 1 1 1 9 PG THREE 40 TRACK EIGHT A CS 16.086. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD ESTABLISH GENERAL RETAIL AND MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT 18 MF SUB-DISTRICTS WITHIN PD 1 0 1 WITH ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND DEVIATIONS FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE. THE APPLICANT IS KENNETH E. MORRISON OF MORRISON AND ASSOCIATES, AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS STRATEGIC LOCATIONS LTD ZONING, CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1547 DASH 26. MS. JORDAN, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. CAMBRIA JORDAN PLANNING AND ZONING MANAGER. SO THIS EVENING I'M BRINGING FORWARD FOR YOUR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION, A REQUEST TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR AN ORDINANCE ALLOWING FOR THE AMENDMENT OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 0 1. SPECIFICALLY OUR APPLICANT, KENNETH E. MORRISON AND THE PROPERTY OWNER STRATEGIC LOCATIONS ARE REQUESTING THAT THE DESOTO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE DESOTO CITY COUNCIL FOR AN ORDINANCE ALLOWING THE AMENDMENT OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 0 1 IF APPROVED. THE AMENDMENT WOULD REPLACE THE LANGUAGE CURRENTLY IN THE ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF GENERAL RETAIL DEVELOPMENTS. AND, UM, IT WILL REPLACE IT WITH ORDINANCE PROVISIONS THAT SUPPORTS AND ALLOWS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF GENERAL RETAIL SUBDISTRICTS AT, UM, IN TRACK B AND TRACK C OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND, UM, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN TRACT A OF THE ESTABLISHMENT PRESENT DAY. THE PRESENT DAY, THE TRACT OF LAND SITS AT JUST OVER 17 ACRES IN SIZE AND IS CURRENTLY ADDRESSED AS 800 WEST BELTLINE ROAD. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SUBJECT SIDE IS OVER IN THE, UM, THE RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE SCREEN OUTLINED IN RED PUBLIC NOTIF OR PUBLIC NOTICE, SORRY, PUBLIC NOTICE PUBLICATION. SO ON JULY 21ST OF THIS YEAR, THE UH, PUBLIC NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE DAILY COMMERCIAL RECORD HAS REQUIRED PER STATE STATUTE IN TOTAL, UM, STAFF NOTICED 50 PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE 200 FOOT RADIUS. AND AS A COURTESY STAFF ALSO NOTICED 46 PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE 400, THE 200 TO 400 FOOT RADIUS OF THE SUBJECT SITE. AND YOU CAN SEE THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT, OF THAT LOCATION. IN THE, UM, TO THE FAR RIGHT OF THE SCREEN ON THE VICINITY MAP IN TOTAL STAFF RECEIVE ZERO LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE 200 FOOT RADIUS AND TWO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION FROM PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN, UM, 200 FOOT RADIUS OF THE SUBJECT SITE. THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT SENT IN THOSE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION ARE SYMBOLIZED BY THE TWO RED STARS ON THE SUBJECT SITE TO THE, UM, OR EXCUSE ME, THE VICINITY MAP TO THE FAR RIGHT OF THE SCREEN ADJACENT ZONING. SO PRESENT DAY PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 0 1 HAS A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF ONLY GENERAL RETAIL, AND AGAIN, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD IN, WOULD ALLOW FOR THE, UM, BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF GENERAL RETAIL IN TRACKS B AND C OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND MULTIFAMILY AND TRACK A OF THE MULTI OR THE, UM, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES, UM, TO THE SOUTH AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ARE BOTH ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL 8,000. CURRENTLY THOSE LOCATIONS ARE FULLY DEVELOPED WITH ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS. PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ARE ZONED AS GENERAL RETAIL AS WELL AS NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AS WELL. AND THEN PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, UM, HAVE TWO DESIGNATIONS. UH, THE FIRST ONE BEING PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 97, AND THEN THE SECOND BEING GENERAL RETAIL. RIGHT. THIS NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU WHAT EXISTS IN THE CURRENT PLAN DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 0 1. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS A GENERAL RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT, UM, PROPOSING A FULLY, UH, GENERAL RETAIL, UM, GENERAL RETAIL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. UP AT THE FRONT YOU SEE THE TWO GENERAL RETAIL PADS, AND THEN YOU SEE THE, UM, TOWARDS THE REAR AND THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SIDE. IT'S ALSO A CONNECTING GENERAL RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT. UM, IN ADDITION TO THE, UM, GENERAL RETAIL ALLOWANCE, THEY ARE THE, UH, CURRENT PLAN DEVELOPMENT ALSO REQUIRES AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALLS THROUGH THE REAR OF THE ESTABLISHMENT JUST BEFORE THE, UM, THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE ESTABLISHED SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A PROPOSED, UM, OR A REQUIRED EIGHT FOOT TRAIL THAT WILL CONNECT TO THE ROAR OR TRAIL OVER TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS WHAT THE APPLICANT [00:10:01] IS PROPOSING TODAY. SO AGAIN, IT WILL BE A, UM, A MIXED USE ESTABLISHMENT WITH A, UM, TWO BASED ZONING DISTRICTS. THE FIRST ONE BEING GENERAL RETAIL ON TRACKS B AND C. OVER TO THE, UM, THE FAR RIGHT OF THE SCREEN, THE TOP RIGHT OF THE SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED, UM, GENERAL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT THERE. IT'S THE TOTAL CARE. SO THAT WON'T BE INCLUDED IN THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UM, AS IT'S PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY. BUT THE, UM, THE TWO GENERAL RETAIL PATHS TO THE LEFT OF THAT ARE INCLUDED. AND THEN YOU ALSO SEE THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. UM, WE ARE IN TOTAL PROPOSING ABOUT NINE BUILDINGS FOR, UH, THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS EXCEEDING THE, UM, THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED HEIGHT OF THREE STORIES, WHICH IS THE REASON FOR THE, UM, THE, THE DEVIATION THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT FOLLOWING SLIDE. AND THEN ALSO THERE IS A DEVIATION FROM THE PARKING. SO WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. ALL RIGHT, SO HERE IS THE SYNOPSIS OF EVERYTHING THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IN, UM, IN EXCESS OF THE CHANGED BASED ZONING DISTRICTS. SO THE MINIMUM AND DWELLING AREA FOR THE SINGLE, THE SINGLE ROOM, UM, APARTMENTS RATHER THAN THE 800 SQUARE FEET. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 675. AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, UM, THE FACT THAT THE TWO AND THREE STORY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE COMPLEX ARE ACTUALLY EXCEEDING THE, UM, TYPICALLY ALLOWED MINIMUM. SO THAT'S KIND OF A TAKEAWAY THERE. SO THEY'RE PROVIDING LESS SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE PROPOSED ONE SINGLE OR SINGLE ROOM MULTI-FAMILIES AND LARGER SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE TWO TO THREE. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN, UM, NEXT UP ARE THE ENCLOSED PARKING SPACES. PER OUR CURRENT MULTI-FAMILY, UM, ZONING REGULATIONS. IT REQUIRES A 50% THAT, UM, 50% OF THE PARKING SPACES BEING CLOSED AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING JUST OVER 15%. THEN ALSO THE MAXIMUM BUILDING LENGTH THEY'RE REQUESTING, UM, TO DEVIATE FROM THE REQUIRED 200 TO 300 MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT. AND THIS OF COURSE IS JUST FOR THE ONE BUILDING, WHICH WE'LL SEE ONCE WE'LL, UM, GET TO THE ELEVATIONS. THERE ARE GOING FROM THREE STORIES TO FOUR STORIES FOR THE ONE BUILDING. THEN YOU HAVE THE REFUSE CONTAINER. THEY'RE PROPOSING ONE TRASH COMPACTOR FOR THE ENTIRE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN DETACHED GARAGES, THEY'RE WANTING TO HAVE A LARGER DETACHED GARAGES TO ALLOW FOR A, UM, LARGER AMOUNT OF CONNECTED DETACHED GARAGES AND THEN ALSO CARPORTS, THEY'RE REQUESTING LARGER. ALL RIGHT, SO NEXT UP ARE THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS. SO YOU SEE TYPE A AND TYPE B, BOTH OF WHICH ARE PROPOSING A MAXIMUM, UM, HEIGHT ALLOWANCE OF THREE STORIES. AND THEN YOU SEE TYPE C AND TYPE D. TYPE D IS THE ONLY TYPE OF BUILDING THAT WILL EXCEED THE, UM, REGULARLY REQUIRED MAXIMUM THREE FOOT ALLOWANCE OR THREE STORY ALLOWANCE IN THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ZONE ZONING DISTRICT, HERE'S THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS OF THE TRACK C AND TRACK B GENERAL RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS. THERE'S NO DEVIATION HERE. AND THEN OUR PROPOSAL LANDSCAPE PLAN. THE FIRST ONE IS FOR THE MULTIFAMILY ESTABLISHMENT. THIS ONE IS FOR GENERAL RETAIL. ALL RIGHT, SO NEXT UP WE'RE AT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBILITY. SO BASED OFF THE, UM, THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, WHICH IS LOCATED IN OUR 2024 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE AREA OF THE PROPOSED SUBJECT SITE IS DESIGNATED AS DESTINATION MIXED USE, WHICH DOES SUPPORT SINGLE FAMILY, UM, ATTACHED DETACHED TRIPLEXES, AS WELL AS UM, MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, UM, AND RETAIL SERVICES AND ESTABLISHMENTS AS WELL. SO, UM, AND BASED OFF OF WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, STAFF CAN SUPPORT THE REQUEST AND NEXT UP WE WILL HAVE OUR, WE'LL HAVE OUR DRAINAGE CONSULTANT GO OVER THE TRAFFICKING IMPACT ANALYSIS. THANK YOU. DAVID PIERCE WITH OLSON, UH, PERFORMED THE REVIEW OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND I'LL GO OVER THOSE SUMMARIES RIGHT NOW. UM, ORIGINALLY THEY HAD PROPOSED ON THIS SITE ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND THEN THEY HAD A, UH, CHANGE IN, UH, THE PROPOSAL WHICH ENTAILED A REVISED TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. AND SO WITH THAT, WE'VE INCREASED THE STUDY AREA TO SEVEN TRAFFIC SIGNALS, UH, SHOWN WITH THOSE OR SEVEN INTERSECTIONS SHOWN WITH THE RED AND YELLOW DIAMONDS. UH, WE REQUESTED THE GROWTH RATE BE REVISED FROM 1% TO 2.4%. SO AS YOU LOOK AT FUTURE GROWTH FOR THE FULL BUILD OUT, INCREASED TRAFFIC WILL YIELD A, UH, [00:15:01] MORE CONSERVATIVE, UH, REVIEW. UM, WE ALSO, THIS INTERSECTION IS THERE AT BELTLINE IN WESTMORELAND. THE SOUTH LEG OF WESTMORELAND IS BEING WIDENED FROM A TWO LANE TO A FOUR LANE DIVIDED, AND WE'RE HAVING THOSE CHANGES REFLECTED IN THE STUDY. UH, THERE'S AN EXISTING HOSPITAL ER THERE RIGHT NOW ON THE CORNER HAS TWO DRIVEWAYS WENT TO THE NORTH AND ONE TO THE, UH, WEST ARE SERVING THE EAST THERE. THAT SOUTHERN EAST DRIVEWAY WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO ACCESS FULLY ALL OF, UH, WESTMORELAND. SO IT WILL BE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT. SO, UM, IN SOME WAYS THAT INCREASES YOUR SAFETY WITH LIMITING THE MOVEMENTS. SO THE TWO EXISTING DRIVES WILL BE RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT. THE TWO NEW PROPOSED DRIVES THAT ARE FURTHER TO THE WEST AND FURTHER TO THE SOUTH WILL BE FULL ACCESS OR PROPOSED AS FULL ACCESS. AND, UM, WE'VE ALSO REQUESTED THAT THEY REVIEW THEIR MITIGATION. THE LAST OF THE FOUR ITEMS, THERE IS A TURN LANE ANALYSIS TO VERIFY IF THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC DURING PEAK HOUR REQUIRES A RIGHT TURN LANE. I WOULD NOTE THAT THE DRIVEWAYS ARE SPACED ABOUT 300 FEET APART, SO, UH, WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT, UM, MAKING SURE, UH, THE SPACING BETWEEN THE TWO DRIVEWAYS ARE APPROPRIATE IF A RIGHT TURN LANE IS UH, RECOMMENDED. SO, UM, IN DOING THAT, UH, DEEPER REVIEW IS NOW BEING CONDUCTED, BUT, UH, IT'S, UH, EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER WITH WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE IN A THOROUGH TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. AND WITH THAT, SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I CAN PROVIDE. MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, SIR. ONE SECOND. COMMISSIONER DEBERRY, SIR, TELL ME YOUR NAME AGAIN. I'M DAVID PIERCE WITH OLSON. MR. PIERCE. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER DEBERRY. MR. PIERCE, UH, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE YOU WENT DOWN AS FAR AS PARKVILLE ROAD, CORRECT? UH, CORRECT. OKAY. WERE THE, UH, WAS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE 300 HOMES THAT ARE GOING IN ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BEAR CREEK AND PARKVILLE BETWEEN PARKVILLE AND RO HILL CONSIDERED IN THIS STUDY BECAUSE THAT COULD, THAT COULD PROBABLY AFFECTED BY 600 CARS. WE HAVE PROVIDED ALL OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS ANALYSIS SO FAR ADJOINING THE AREA, UH, TO THE CLIENT, BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO IF THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY WAS PROVIDED. SO AS WE'VE RECEIVED THEM, WE HAVE PROVIDED FOR CO-PLANNING. SO I WILL FIND OUT ABOUT THAT. IF WE OKAY IT TONIGHT, IT MAY BE TOO LATE. UM, ESPECIALLY WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT WE'VE GOT GOING IN A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH ON, UH, ON UH, WESTMORELAND. YEAH. UM, AND THAT WAS, UH, THAT ONE, UH, IS CLOSE AND ADJACENT. UM, WE PROVIDED THAT. UM, TRYING TO THINK. WE'VE BROUGHT UP THE PLANS SET. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONER. GOOD EVENING. SO PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME. YES, SORRY. CITY MD CHEN, CITY ENGINEER. GOOD EVENING PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. SO THIS TIA IS THE REVIEW IS NOT COMPLETE YET. WE REVIEWED AND WE MADE COMMENTS. THEY ARE ADDRESSING THOSE COMMENTS AND WE DON'T HAVE MAJOR CONCERN, BUT THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO SUBMIT A UPDATED TIA INDIA ANALYSIS. THEY HAVE CALCULATED ALL THE PROJECTED TRIPS FROM ALL THE KNOWN DEVELOPMENTS. SO FOR ALL THE AREA IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, NEARBY AREA , THERE IS A VACANT LOT AND WE KNOW ABOUT A UPCOMING DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT AREA THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO THE CALCULATION OR WILL BE TAKEN INTO THE CALCULATION. SO THE CALCULATION IS BEING UPDATED. BUT ALL THOSE, THOSE ARE THE PARAMETERS IN THEIR CALCULATION THAT THEY HAVE TO, UM, THEY HAVE TO INCLUDE WHEN THEY CALCULATE THE IMPACT AND ROADWAY NUMBER OF TRAFFIC AT DEFINED INTERSECTIONS. THEY DO THE CALCULATION [00:20:01] BASED ON THE KNOWN UPCOMING NEAR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS. SO WHAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR IS YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW. YOU THINK YOU KNOW, BUT YOU DON'T. SO THIS COULD EVENTUALLY AFFECT ALL THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA AND THE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY LIVED DOWN THERE IN A NEGATIVE MANNER. CORRECT. UM, UNABLE, COMMISSIONER, WILL YOU PLEASE KINDLY TELL ME THE LOCATION AGAIN? THE SOUTHWEST CORNER. OH, WESTMORELAND AND BEAR CREEK. THERE'S 300 HOMES GOING IN, IN THAT AREA. OKAY. I'VE GOT A MAJOR CONCERN WITH TRAFFIC. UM, CHAIR. YES. OKAY. UH, JACKIE COLTON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. SO, UH, THE TIA, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING IT, BUT BEFORE THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP AND BEFORE YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT IS ACTUALLY APPROVED, THEN YOU KNOW, THOSE QUESTIONS WILL HAVE TO BE RESOLVED. SO TO RESPOND TO THAT, MS. COLTON, I, I THINK WHEN THE COMMISSION ASKS FOR CERTAIN TECHNICAL DOCUMENTS SO THAT WE ARE MAKING INFORMED DECISIONS BEFORE THIS CASE IS BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSION, THE EXPECTATION IS THAT IT IS COMPLETE AND ALL TECHNICAL INFORMATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO US SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION THAT RESPONDS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT THIS, UM, COMMISSION HAS. SO IF WE ARE TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT DECISION COULD BE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, UH, FULL INFORMATION TO MAKE A DETERMINATION. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE REQUESTED A TIA, WE'VE HEARD THAT IT WAS BEING COMPLETED IN THE PAST, AND I THINK IT'S PREMATURE TO BRING A CASE BEFORE, UH, THIS BODY WITHOUT FULLY MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION. SO I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS THE FIRST, BUT THIS IS THE ONLY TIME IT WOULD COME BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR, UH, A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL COMMISSION VICE CHAIR. YOU HAVE SOMETHING? UH, TWO, ONE TO ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF AND THEN ONE QUESTION FOR, UM, OUR ENGINEER, CITY ENGINEER IS THAT IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT AT THIS STAGE TO SUBMIT A TIA, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. ARE YOUR MICROPHONE ON AND ANSWER THAT, PLEASE? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY, THANK YOU. UH, BUT I THINK WHEN YOU GUYS DO PRESENT IT, UM, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE LIKE TO LOOK AT, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS FOR FUTURE, UM, IT MAKES SENSE TO BRING IT COMPLETED. UH, COMMISSIONER BERRY ASKED A DIRECT QUESTION AND DID NOT RECEIVE A DIRECT ANSWER, AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE A DIRECT ANSWER ON IT. IS IT HAS NOT BEEN LOOKED AT YOU, YOU ASKED FOR THE EXACT LOCATION OF THE 300 HOMES. SO IT HAS NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED INTO THE EQUATION OF THE PENDING TIA CORRECT. THANK YOU FOR ASKING THE QUESTIONS. IF I CORRECTLY UNDERSTAND, THE LAND AREA THAT HONORABLE COMMISSIONER IS REFERRING IS LOCATED WITHIN CITY OF GLEN HEIGHTS? THAT IS CORRECT, YES. SO I WILL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH THE DEVELOPERS. OKAY. ENGINEER WHO DID ALL THE CALCULATION FOR NUMBER. WE HAVE PROVIDED THEM ALL THE KNOWN, THE UPCOMING DEVELOPMENTS IN DESOTO. UH, WE HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK IF, UH, GLEN HEIGHT'S DEVELOPMENT I GOT YOU. CALCULATION HAS BEEN INCLUDED OR NOT. I APPRECIATE THAT. UH, QUICK QUESTION AGAIN. UH, DID SO AT THIS TIME WE HAVE NOT, I, UH, IMPLEMENTED THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN OUR CITY. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? UH, UH, I WOULD SAY IT, IT WAS UNKNOWN TO US AT THE STAFF. UH, BUT WE CAN TAKE OKAY, THANK YOU. 'CAUSE IT DOES AFFECT OUR CITY RESIDENTS. COMMISSIONERS. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER EDWARDS. UH, YES, GOOD EVENING. UM, SO THE TIA, UM, YOU DEVELOPED, UH, BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE TONIGHT, BUT MY QUESTION IS, DID YOU, UH, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC THAT IS AROUND HIGH SCHOOL AREA? UH, WAS IT, WAS THIS DONE AFTER SCHOOL WAS OUT OR DID YOU DO IT PRIOR TO, UH, SCHOOL BEING OUT? I, I THINK THAT'S A MAJOR, UH, FACTOR. YES. UH, SPECIFICALLY, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WHEN THE TRAFFIC COUNTS WERE CONDUCTED, WHEN TRAFFIC COUNTS WERE CONDUCTED DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, DURING NORMAL [00:25:01] BUSINESS DAYS, TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY DURING NORMAL, UH, SCHOOL DAYS, UM, PER THE, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION DE DESIGN MANUAL PER THE TDM REQUIREMENTS. AND JUST JUST TO FOR CLARIFICATION, I AM NOT THE GENERATOR OF THE REPORT, BUT THE REVIEWER FOR THE CITY, I, I'M ACTING AS EXTENSION OF STAFF FOR THE CITY IN REVIEWING THE REPORT. SO, UM, WE REVIEWED THE REPORT PREPARED BY WESTWOOD, UM, GAVE COMMENT, AND THEY ARE REVISING THAT PER THAT, UH, PER THOSE COMMENTS. AND THE, THE PER THE TDM, EVERYTHING WITHIN A ONE MILE RADIUS OF THAT DEVELOPMENT IS TO, IS THE AREAS BEING CONSIDERED RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE PROVIDED ANY, UH, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR THEM TO ALSO CONSIDER COMMISSIONER ALEXIS? YES. SO THE TRAFFIC GROWTH WEIGHT, THE INCREASE FROM ONE TO 2.4%, APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY VEHICLES DOES THAT MEAN? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO, UM, WITH, WITH A VARIED ANSWER, SO, UM, IT WOULD BE, UH, ONE AND TWO POINT HALF PERCENT ARE NOT GREAT INCREASES, BUT THEY ARE COMPOUNDING AND IT DOES MATTER. AND SO WHEN YOU ALREADY HAVE, SAY, AN INTERSECTION THAT IS OPERATING AT A LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, GETTING QUITE BUSY, YOU KNOW, THAT GROWTH AFFECTS IT. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE INSTRUCTED, UH, THE, UH, PREPARER TO USE A HIGHER GROWTH RATE TO THEREFORE PROVIDE THE CITY A MORE CONSERVATIVE ANSWER AND PUT THE ONUS BACK ON THE DEVELOPER FOR MITIGATION. AND SO THE MITIGATION THAT WE EXPECT FROM THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE, DO YOU NEED RIGHT TURN LANES FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT? DO YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE TIMING PLANS? SO DO YOU NEED TO DO A TIMING PLAN STUDY TO BETTER HAVE THAT SIGNAL OPERATE WITH THE NEW TRAFFIC VOLUMES AS WE MOVE INTO THE FUTURE? SO DO YOU KNOW APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY VEHICLES I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE REPORT OKAY. TO BREAK THAT DOWN SPECIFICALLY, I CAN, I CAN PROVIDE, UM, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THE, THE 1% GROWTH RATE AND TWO AND A HALF PERCENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF. YES, GO AHEAD. UH, AT THE LAST MEETING, WE HAD SIX RESIDENTS SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS. I KNOW THE PRESENTATION SAID WE RECEIVED TWO LETTERS AND ALSO THERE WERE A FEW RESIDENTS THAT TALKED ABOUT DROPPING OFF THEIR LETTERS OF CONCERN AS WELL. CAN WE INCLUDE, GET A TOTAL OF ALL OF THE RESIDENTS THAT OPPOSE THIS OVER THE COURSE OF, I THINK IT'S THE LAST TWO MEETINGS IF I MAY. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS. UM, SO JUST TO CONFIRM, ALL OF THE LETTERS THAT WE DID RECEIVE IN OPPOSITION FOR THIS CASE SPECIFICALLY HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET. SO WE'VE RECEIVED TWO LETTERS TO DATE FOR OPPOSITION AND ZERO LETTERS OF OKAY. OF SUPPORT. OKAY. CORRECT. BUT DO WE ALSO INCLUDE THE CITIZENS THAT SPOKE DURING THE LAST MEETING? SO LIKE A COMPREHENSIVE, ALL OF THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE SPOKEN OUT AGAINST THIS? ALSO, THERE ARE A FEW RESIDENTS THAT HAD CONCERNS THAT THEY DROPPED OFF THEIR LETTERS PERSONALLY, YES. SO IT WASN'T COUNTED AT THE LAST MEETING, SO I JUST WANTED TO RAISE THAT. SO, UM, THE INDIVIDUALS, UM, THAT'S ACTUALLY FULL TRANSPARENCY. THAT PORTION OF, UM, THE LAST PART WHERE YOU SAID THAT THERE ARE RESIDENTS THAT, UM, STATED THAT THEY HAD LETTERS DROPPED OFF, THAT'S ACTUALLY IMMATERIALS TO THIS CASE SPECIFICALLY. THAT'S FOR THE PREVIOUS CASE THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA. AND AS FAR AS THE, UM, CITIZEN'S APPEARANCES BEING COUNTED FOR PUBLIC NOTIFICATION, UM, OPPOSITION, THAT'S NOT THE CASE. SO WE JUST, WE ACCEPT THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION LETTERS THAT WE SEND OUT WHEN THEY FILL 'EM OUT, SHOWING THAT THEY'RE IN OPPOSITION, NOT THE CITIZEN'S APPEARANCES. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR. UH, I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. CAN, CAN YOU PULL SLIDE FIVE AND YOU STATED THAT THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR AN EASEMENT. IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT WAS STATED? I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? DID YOU SAY THAT THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR AN EIGHT FOOT, UH, EASEMENT, EIGHT, EIGHT FOOT WALKING TRAIL TO THE FAR WEST OF THE SUBJECT SIDE? DO YOU HAVE THE POINTER [00:30:04] AND, AND THIS IS THE EXISTING, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. CAN YOU GO TO THE PROPOSED, CAN YOU SHOW ME THAT EASEMENT AGAIN? IS IT COMPLETED THERE? SO EASEMENTS ARE TIED DOWN, UH, EITHER BY SEPARATE INSTRUMENT OR VIA PLAT. SO THIS IS JUST A PROPOSED, UM, SITE PLAN. OKAY. SO WHO, SO THEY'RE GONNA PUT IT IN THE APPLICANT. SO PLANNING AND ZONING DIVISION ISN'T, UM, WE'RE NOT OVER TRAILS SYSTEM, SO ANY TYPE OF, UM, WELL, IT'S NOT TIED DOWN TO THE ORDINANCE, SO THERE'S NO PLANNING AND ZONING REQUIREMENT JUST THERE, BUT THAT WOULD, UM, I CAN ACTUALLY DEFER THAT QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT. OKAY. I'LL ASK, SO I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK. OH, THEY CAN SPEAK NOW, NOT UNTIL WE OPEN IT. WELL, THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS REMAINED OPEN SINCE AUGUST 11TH, SO THEY ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK. LET US COMPLETE, UH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE APPLICANT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I'LL HOLD THAT ONE. AND THEN CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE SEVEN FOR ME, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY? UH, THE MINIMUM AREA, UH, PER DWELLING UNIT, IT, OUR REQUIREMENT IS 800 SQUARE FEET. IS THAT FOR ONE BEDROOMS? YOU SAID? THAT'S ONE BEDROOM. OKAY. AND THERE, UM, LOWERING AT 6 75, BUT YOU STATED IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING THE TWOS AND THREE BEDROOMS LARGER? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I NEEDED. OKAY. COMMISSIONER LARO? YES, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, ON THE PROPOSED DEVIATIONS, PARTICULARLY I GUESS THE FOUR STORY, WHAT ARE WE AS A CITY GAINING FROM SOME OF THESE DEVIATIONS THAT WE AREN'T ABLE TO DO IN THE REGULAR MULTI, UH, MULTIFAMILY REQUIREMENTS? LIKE, SO AS FAR AS GAIN, UM, THAT IS ACTUALLY, UH, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PROVIDE OPINION. IT'S WHETHER, UM, WE GO BASED OFF OF THE ZONING CODE IN THE PROPOSED, UM, OR THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. SO, UM, I WILL ACTUALLY DEFER THAT QUESTION TO OUR APPLICANT. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. PIERCE IN THE TIA IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY RECOMMENDED MITIGATION, UM, OR WILL THAT BE AT THE END ONCE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS COMPLETE? THAT WOULD BE AT THE END, BUT, UH, IT'S MY ANTICIPATION THAT, UM, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL MITIGATION AS FAR AS RETIMING WILL BE, UH, NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. THAT'S, I'M ANTICIPATING THAT AS, AS PART OF THE MITIGATION, IT IS NOT PROPOSED YET, BUT JUST IN MY EXPERIENCE, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ANTICIPATE. SO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THE MITIGATION RECOMMENDED AT THE COMPLETION OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WILL ONLY BE, UM, SIGNAL, NEW SIGNAL TIMING OR A NEW SIGNAL, I'M SORRY, NEW SIGNAL TIMING? THERE, THERE IS GONNA BE A MODIFICATION TO THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL WITH THE IMPROVEMENT TO THE SOUTH, UH, LEG OF WESTMORELAND BEING WIDENED SO THAT IT, THERE'S GONNA BE A MODIFICATION AND THEREFORE, UH, IT'LL BE FOUR LANES IN EACH DIRECTION, SO THEREFORE IT'LL CARRY MORE VOLUME. WHAT'S THAT MODIFICATION THAT'S BEING MADE TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL? THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR YOU. UM, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, WAS THAT ALREADY A PROJECT THAT THE CITY WAS GOING TO DO OR IS THAT A RESULT OF THIS ADDITIONAL DENSITY IN THIS AREA? AND IF IT IS A RESULT, IS THE APPLICANT, WILL THE APPLICANT BE PARTICIPATING IN THE COST? UM, THANK YOU GERALD FOR NEGOTIATION. SO WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WOULD BE THE MITIGATIONS REQUIRED, BUT BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE REVIEWED SO FAR, WE FELT, OR AN WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT SIGNAL TIMING ADJUSTMENT WOULD BE NEEDED IN SOME OF THE NEARBY INTERSECTIONS, EXISTING SIGNAL AT BELT LINE AND WESTMORE LAND. SO THE CURRENT TIMING, WE WILL NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENT TO THE HOW MANY SECONDS IT WOULD REMAIN GREEN OR RED, DEPENDING ON THE NEW AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AFTER THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND, UH, SO SIGNAL TIMING ADJUSTMENT IS A RELATIVELY LOW COST ITEM. HOWEVER, UH, WE WILL REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO CONTRIBUTE IF THERE IS ANY COST ITEM THAT WOULD TRIGGER. BUT THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT IS FROM OUR REVIEW EXPERIENCE, THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT TRIGGER INSTALLATION OF A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL. SOMEHOW IT WOULD BE JUST TIMING ADJUSTMENT. [00:35:01] WE GO TO THE INTERSECTION, WE OPEN THE CABINET BOX, WE ADJUST THE TIMING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. JORDAN. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. CAN YOU PULL UP SLIDE SEVEN AND BEFORE WE, UH, GET TO THE APPLICANT THIS, I JUST WOULD LIKE YOU TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON, UM, IF THERE ARE ANY CONSTRAINTS THAT FACTORED INTO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE APPLICANT NOT BEING ABLE TO MEET THE, UM, REGULATIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE. WHAT'S THE PUR THE PURPOSE OF ALL THESE DEVIATIONS? WHAT ARE THE CONSTRAINTS THAT LED TO THESE DEVIATIONS? AND I'LL ASK SPECIFICALLY THE APPLICANT, BUT I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT FACTORED INTO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL BASED ON THE NUMBER OF DEVIATIONS WE SEE ON THIS SLIDE. RIGHT. SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL COMES FROM OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, WHICH IS LOCATED IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WHETHER OR NOT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ALIGNING WITH WHAT'S PERMITTED IN THAT FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. SO, UM, I GUESS TO ASK WHAT CONSTRAINTS, UM, WELL I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHETHER OR NOT WE'D BE ABLE TO ANSWER WHAT, WHAT CONSTRAINTS WOULD EVEN ALLOW THIS TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT TO COME BEFORE US. BECAUSE AGAIN, THE WAY THAT WE REVIEW THE PLANS, IT'S EITHER IT IS OR ISN'T WHEN IT COMES TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. SO THAT'S OUR ROADMAP. IF IT DOES ALIGN, THEN STAFF DOES SUPPORT THAT REQUEST. AND IN THIS CASE, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING DOES ALIGN WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, UM, AND ALL OF THE PROPOSED USES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND THAT WE PRESENT IT BEFORE USE. SO THAT'S WHERE OUR, UM, RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AND SUPPORT COMES FROM. OKAY. AND THEN IN, IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, LOOKING AT THIS, I JUST WANNA BE REAL CLEAR ON, UM, SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THE DETACHED GARAGES. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN SPECIFICALLY? I SEE A MAX OF 480 SQUARE FEET AND THEY'RE PROPOSING A MAX OF 3000. SO THAT'S AN ENHANCEMENT TO YES. OKAY. THAT'S AN ENHANCEMENT. AND THEN THE CAR PORT PORTS AS WELL, MAX THREE VEHICLES MA THEN MAX FOR UP TO 10 VEHICLES VERSUS THE THREE? YES MA'AM. OKAY. SO THEY'RE ADJUSTING IN SOME AREAS, ADJUSTING UP AND ADJUSTING DOWN IN OTHERS. UM, AND THE REFUSE FACILITIES, THAT'S DEFINITELY AN ADJUSTMENT DOWN, PROPOSING ONLY ONE TRASH COMPACTOR FOR THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT VERSUS THE, UM, THE REFUSE CONTAINERS. TRASH COMPACTOR, ISS GONNA BE, UM, IT'S THE ELECTRONICAL, THE DEVICE THAT YOU COMPACT TRASH WITH VERSUS JUST A REGULAR REFUSE CONTAINER WHERE THE RESIDENTS WOULD JUST WALK UP AND THROW THEIR TRASH AWAY. IS THAT AN ENHANCEMENT OR? IT CAN BE SEEN BOTH WAYS, BUT WE, PLANNING AND ZONING, WE DO SEE IT AS AN ENHANCEMENT. OKAY, THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. SO YOU SAID THAT, UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS BASED ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY DEVIATIONS ARE PUT IN, IF IT IS, UH, GOING WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY DEVIATIONS, UM, I THINK THERE'S SEVEN DEVIATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING. SO THIS ISN'T, UM, SEEN AS A LOCK. AND, UM, THE, THE BIGGEST DEVIATION THAT WE'RE SEEING BEFORE US IS THE CHANGE IN THE BASE ZONING DISTRICTS. AS THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT EXISTS TODAY, IT'S ONLY PERMITTING GENERAL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. AND WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS BEFORE US IS, UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT TOWARDS THE REAR AND THE WEST OF THIS, OF THE SUBJECT SITE. AND, UH, THE TWO RETAIL PADS THAT ARE ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE, UM, PLAN DEVELOPMENT AS IT EXISTS TODAY, THEY'RE STILL BEING PROPOSED TO STAY AND THERE'S NO DEVIATIONS IN THE GENERAL RETAIL TRACKS. THANK YOU. AND OUR, UM, CONS, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS UPDATED UH, IN 2024. UH, WHAT ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR MULTIFAMILY WHEN WERE, WHEN WERE THESE LAST UPDATED THAT THEY'RE DEVIATING FROM? SO I BELIEVE THEY WERE LAST, UM, UPDATED IN THE LATE NINETIES. OKAY. 1997 IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. OKAY, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LARO? YES. UM, ARE THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS OR CONSTRAINTS FROM THE CITY TO, UM, BE MINDFUL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE RIGHT THERE IN THE HEIGHTS OF THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS? DO WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO ANY TYPE OF CONSIDERATION WHEN REVIEWING THESE PROPOSALS? YES. SO THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP, UM, UH, BY CITY STAFF AS WELL AS AT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS THAT THE APPLICANT DID, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO START ON. SO, UM, YES, PER OUR, UH, REGULATIONS, WE DO, UM, ANYTIME THERE IS A COMMERCIAL OR, UM, ANYTHING DIFFERENT FROM A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UM, SUBDIVISION OR ESTABLISHMENT, THERE IS A REQUIRED SCREENING AND, UM, THE APPLICANT IS FULFILLING THAT SCREENING BY PROVIDING THE SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL TOWARDS THE REAR. SO THERE IS [00:40:01] A REQUIREMENT AND THEN THERE'S ALSO AN EASEMENT SEPARATING THE, UM, ESTABLISHED SUBDIVISION AND THE PROPOSED, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US. OKAY. SO WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT SOMEBODY ON THAT TOP FLOOR WON'T BE ABLE TO LOOK IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PRIVACY OF, UH, OUR NEIGHBORS OR IS THERE ANY GUARANTEES THERE? OR IS I UNDERSTAND LIKE A SIX FOOT EVENING, BUT IF YOU HAVE A FOUR STORY BUILDING, I COULD LOOK RIGHT OVER THAT, THAT WALL. SORRY, COULD YOU GO BACK TO MS. PATEL? COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN? SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, THE ONLY LOCATION WHERE THE, UM, SHOULD WE, SO ON THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, OUT OF THE NINE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, UM, BUILDINGS, THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT WILL BE FOUR STORIES AND IT IS ACTUALLY LOCATED HERE, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE AT THAT REAR. SO THAT WON'T BE AN ISSUE. SO STAFF IS CONFIDENT THAT THAT WON'T BE AN ISSUE. OKAY. AND I HAVE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE APPLICANT REVISED PLANS TO PREVENT THAT. OKAY, PERFECT. UM, AND I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION REGARDING THE, UM, COMMERCIAL USE. IS THAT PART OF THIS AS WELL OR IS THAT SEPARATE? WHICH ONE? THE TWO PADS TRACK B AND C. YES MA'AM. THAT'S IT'S PART. SO IS THERE ANY COMMITMENT FOR THOSE BUILDINGS OR, OR IS THAT WELL, YEAH, THAT'S MY QUESTION. IS THERE ANY COMMITMENT FOR THAT, THOSE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES OR, YOU KNOW, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT JUST GETTING APARTMENTS AND THEN WAITING 20 YEARS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT OTHER SITE DEVELOPED? MM-HMM . ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. SO, UM, AS FAR AS ANY COMMITMENTS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE PER, UM, OR SPEARHEADED THROUGH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, SO I'LL ACTUALLY DEFER THAT QUESTION TO OUR APPLICANT WHEN THE, THE TIME FOR THEM TO COME UP ARRIVES. OKAY. COMMISSIONER EDWARDS? YES. SO ONE QUESTION. I KNOW THE CITY ENGINEER TALKED ABOUT, UH, MODIFYING THE, UH, SIGNALS POSSIBLY, AND I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT THE APPLICANT WILL ABSORB THE COST FOR THAT OR WILL THE CITY DO IT OR WILL IT BE HALF AND HALF? I JUST NEED CLARIFICATION ON THAT, SIR. TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON. THANK YOU. YES. UM, COMMISSIONER. SO, UH, THE EIA REPORT, THE LAST CHAPTER OF TIA REPORT IS RECOMMENDATION FOR MITIGATION, WHATEVER MITIGATION IS NECESSARY. THE REPORT WOULD MENTION THAT AND THEY ALSO PROVIDE A COST ESTIMATE HOW MUCH COST IT WILL BE. ADDITIONALLY, THEY ALSO MENTION THEIR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT COST. SO IT IS NOT ALWAYS, UM, A HUNDRED PER IT, IT MAY BE MAYBE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ENTIRE COST. SO THERE CAN BE OTHER DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING FOR HIS SIGNAL TIMING ADJUSTMENT MAY BECOME NECESSARY. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS BRIEFLY, YES, THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE IF THERE IS ANY COST, UH, OCCUR OR TO MAKE ANY MITIGATION TO ANY EXISTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES, I'M SORRY. VICE CHAIR? UH, YOU'RE GOOD. UH, MS. JORDAN, I KNOW YOU, UH, SAID THAT I CAN ASK THE APPLICANT. I'M GONNA ASK THE APPLICANT. I JUST, WE KEEP GOING BACK TO THIS SLIDE, SO I KEEP LOOKING AT IT. UM, THE TRAIL IN THIS PROPOSED SITE PLAN, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT SHOWING AS A PROPOSAL, BUT THAT IT'S ALREADY IN, THAT'S MY CONFUSION. IF WE GO TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, CAN WE, SO ON THE EXISTING, IT'S SHOWN AS, UM, WELL IT, IT'S SHOWN AS PRESENT ON THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN, WHICH PER THE ORDINANCE AS IT EXISTS TODAY, THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO ABIDE BY WHEN THEY'RE DEVELOPING. BUT IT'S PUT ON THESE PLANS AS IT'S ALREADY THERE. CORRECT. IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE ONCE THE DEVELOPMENT IS COMPLETE, THAT TRAIL IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. I GOT YOU. BUT ON THE PLANS, IT'S SHOWING THAT IT'S COMPLETED ALREADY AS IT LIKE, LIKE IT'S THERE TODAY, CORRECT? NO, SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. THE THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO BILL TO IF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STAYS THE SAME TODAY. AND THAT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE APPLICANT. THAT'S AN, THAT'S A REQUIREMENT FOR THE, UM, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THERE'S A, THERE, UM, THE PLAN ON THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, IT SHOWS A, UM, A PROPOSED EASEMENT FOR THE FUTURE TRAIL. BUT THIS ORDINANCE AS IT EXISTS TODAY, AND THIS SITE PLAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS SHOWING THAT IT'S REQUIRED TO BE BILLED BY THE APPLICANT. SO THE APPLICANT WILL PAY FOR IT. TYPICALLY THAT WOULD BE THE CASE. [00:45:02] OKAY. COMMISSIONER ALEXIS? YES. UM, ONE OF THE THEMES THAT WE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS WAS AROUND DRAINAGE ISSUES. DO WE KNOW, UM, IF THIS PLAN, IF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT WON'T HAVE ANY ADVERSE IMPACT TO THE DRAINAGE, UM, SITUATION IN THAT AREA? THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOR ASKING THE QUESTION. NO, THERE WILL BE NO NEGATIVE IMPACT FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. THIS DEVELOPMENT THEN TO THE WEST, THERE IS A TRIBUTARY IN BETWEEN THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION ON THE WEST STANDARD AND THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, THEY WILL ALSO BUILD A DETENTION POND. THAT DETENTION POND WILL BE, PROVIDE THE NECESSARY REQUIREMENT THAT THE POST DEVELOPMENT AMOUNT OF RUNOFF ENTERING THE CREEK WILL BE EQUAL OR LESS THAN THE P DEVELOPMENT CONDITION. SO THE AREA WILL NOT SUFFER FROM ANY NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES. THE CREEK WILL NOT SEE ANY INCREASE OF AMOUNT OF WATER LEVEL. SO NO NEGATIVE IMPACT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BEFORE WE ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME UP? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS LEFT OPEN, SO WE'RE INVITING THE APPLICANT UP. THANK YOU. PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE. MAD COMMISSIONER MADAM COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER. MINE IS BILL ALSTROM. I LIVE IN DALLAS, TEXAS. UM, I'VE BEEN, UH, I'M A ZONING AND LAND ATTORNEY. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME DOWN HERE AND DOING ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT ALL OVER. UM, IT'S A REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT. THIS IS A, A GREAT PROJECT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS A LONG, LONG TIME, SEVERAL YEARS, AND AS WAS STATED, THE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR WELL OVER A YEAR. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF, UH, THOMPSON REALTY CORP, UH, CAPITAL. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO DEVELOPED, UH, THE, THE, A COMPLEX RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE OF WESTMORELAND. TAYLOR FIELD AND BROGAN MILLER ARE HERE. WE HAVE A WHOLE GROUP OF OUR ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, ANYBODY YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK TO. I HAVE A QUESTION. WE, WE'LL, WHERE WE'RE HERE, UH, THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE OWNERSHIP ARE HERE AS WELL. UH, KEN MORRISON AND BRUCE HARDY. AND, UM, I'M GONNA ASK, UH, UH, BRUCE, COME ON UP AND, AND, AND, AND SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP. HE'S ON THIS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND BEEN TRYING TO DEVELOP IT AND MARKET IT. AND, UH, THEN I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH MY PRESENTATION. I THINK WE CAN, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS Y'ALL ASK 'CAUSE I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS MANY OF THEM WHEN YOUR APPROACH. PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE. SIR. UH, EXCUSE ME. MY NAME IS BRUCE HARBOR. UH, I'M IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS AND HAVE BEEN FOR ALMOST, UH, 55 YEARS. I HAVE QUITE A HISTORY WITH THIS PROPERTY. UM, I WAS WITH HENRY S. MILLER COMPANY AND SOME OF YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER THEM, BUT BACK IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES, THEY WERE REALLY ONE OF THE TOP REAL ESTATE COMPANIES IN THE, IN THE STATE. AND WE WERE VERY WELL KNOWN FOR THE PARTNERSHIPS WE PUT TOGETHER. AND WE WOULD GO TO A CITY LIKE MINNESOTA AND SAY, HEY, THAT LOOKS LIKE A GREASE PIECE OF LAND. PUT IT UNDER CONTRACT AND SELL IT TO A DEVELOPER. AND WE'VE, WE'VE SOLD SEVERAL BIG TRACKS IN DESOTA, UH, PRIOR TO THIS REMAINING TRACK THAT WE HAD. UH, SO HENRY MILLER, HENRY MILLER COMPANY ACTUALLY BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY IN APRIL OF 19, EXCUSE ME, SOMETHING WRONG DATE OF, UH, YEAH, APRIL OF 97. UH, UM, THEY, THEY BOUGHT IT FROM A, UH, ANOTHER GROUP AT MILLER COMPANY. AND IT'S SORT OF BEEN IN THE FAMILY OF MILLER COMPANY ALL THESE YEARS. AND I'M NOT WITH MILLER ANYMORE, I'M ON MY OWN. BUT ANYWAY, WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY WITH THIS GOING BACK TO THE SEVENTIES, I THINK THE FIRST PURCHASE OF THIS TRACK AND THEN A RESIDENTIAL DIVISION TO THE, UH, SOUTH AND, UH, PART OF ALL OF RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST ARE ALL PART OF ORIGINAL TRACK THAT WE BOUGHT. I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY ACRES IT WAS, IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO, BUT IT WAS SEVERAL HUNDRED ACRES. SO WE HAVE A HISTORY DOWN HERE AND WE, WE LIKE TO SODA. WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH OUR PROJECTS DOWN HERE. SO THE PROPERTY WAS ZONED, UH, IN 2004 [00:50:02] TO, UH, PD REZONED TO PD 1 0 1. AND THE ENTIRE 17 ACRE TRACK WAS ZONED AS A REGIONAL SHOPPING CENTER. AND I DON'T REMEMBER NOW THE EXACT REASON THAT WE CAME IN AND, AND, UH, REQUESTED THAT ZONING, BUT IT MAY HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THE CITY WANTED TO SEE. AND WE WERE ACCOMMODATING THE CITY. I JUST DON'T REMEMBER. BUT THE PROBLEM ABOUT THAT WAS THAT THIS IS A SLOPE. YOU DON'T NOTICE IT SO MUCH FROM THE ROAD, BUT THE, THE TRACK SLOPES DOWN TO THE CREEK AND IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT AND EXPENSIVE TRACK TO DEVELOP. AND SO DIFFERENT USES LIKE A REGIONAL SHOPPING CENTER JUST DON'T WORK THERE. AND THEN OTHER, WE HAD TWO SCHOOLS. WE HAD A CHARTER SCHOOL THAT WANTED TO BE DOWN THERE AND IT DIDN'T WORK FOR THEM EITHER BECAUSE OF THE TRAIN. THERE'S JUST A LOT OF ISSUES THAT HAD TO BE RESOLVED. SO IN THE, IN THE LAST 15 YEARS OF MARKETING, NO ONE HAS STEPPED UP TO DEVELOP A SITE AS REGIONAL SHOPPING CENTER, AS I SAID. AND, UH, NO ONE HAS STEPPED UP TO DEVELOP, UH, ANY OTHER PROJECT ON IT. AND WE THINK IT'S TIME TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY GET A NICE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY. SO 10 YEARS AGO WE SOLD THE CORNER, THE VERY, UH, CORNER, UM, FOR A STANDALONE EMERGENCY CENTER. AND IT WAS, UH, IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL THERE. I THINK THE FIRST GROUP WENT OUTTA BUSINESS AS A SECOND GROUP CAME IN. WE'VE HAD PAD SITES ALONG BELTLINE UNDER CONTRACT NUMEROUS TIMES, AND FOR WHATEVER REASON IT DIDN'T WORK. UH, SO WE'RE REALLY, REALLY HOPING WE CAN GET THIS APPROVED BY THE PNC AND THE COUNCIL. UM, WHEN WALMART, UH, WAS CONSTRUCTED TO THE WEST OF OUR SITES SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I DON'T REMEMBER, SEVEN OR EIGHT, 10 YEARS, UH, TXDOT ALLOWED, UH, WALMART TO BLOCK OFF ALL OF WESTBOUND TRAFFIC USING THE EXISTING TURN LANE TO BELTLINE AND BELTLINE ROAD TO ACCESS OUR TRACK. SO THEY MADE IT EVEN MORE DIFFICULT TO TO MARKET AT THAT TIME UNTIL WE STEPPED UP, WORKED WITH THE CITY, WORKED WITH THE STATE, AND WERE ABLE TO, UH, REESTABLISH, UH, AN EXIT TO THIS PROPERTY FROM, FROM BELTLINE ROAD GOING ON, UH, WESTBOUND. SO WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE THE PROPERTY MARKETABLE. WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE THROUGH TWO EXCELLENT, TWO VERY ACCOMPLISHED AND EXCELLENT DEVELOPERS INTERESTED IN THE PROPERTY. YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM TAYLOR IN A FEW MINUTES ABOUT THE MULTIFAMILY GROUP THAT THEY PLAN TO DO. AND THEY HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROJECT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET AND THEY WANNA COMPLIMENT IT WITH ANOTHER ONE. AND THEY'VE TRIED TO WORK VERY CAREFULLY WITH THE CITY AND ACCOMPLISHING EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANTED TO DO AND THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GET APPROVAL. AND THEN WE HAVE TWO PAD SITES UNDER CONTRACT TO A VERY WELL KNOWN DEVELOPER, UH, ALSO, AND THEY PLAN TO DO, UH, RESTAURANTS AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY ARE NOT DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS, THEY'RE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS. SO WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING THE CITY HAS ASKED US TO DO. WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE, AND WE JUST ASK YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVING THIS SO WE CAN ADD TO THE CITY OF DESOTA AND HELP INCREASE YOUR TAX BASE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU MR. HARBOR, IF I COULD, IS THERE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? UH, AGAIN, UH, AS MR. HARBOR SAID, THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. ONE IN THE MULTIFAMILY THOMPSON REALTY CAPITAL. UM, AGAIN, BUILT THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND A WHILE. THEY'VE GOT A VERY DIVERSIFIED REAL ESTATE COMPANY. UH, THEY'VE DEVELOPED, MANAGED OVER 35 CLASS A MARKET RATE MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITIES IN DALLAS, AUSTIN, SAN ANTONIO, NORTHERN VIRGINIA, OVER 11,000 UNITS. IN THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY HAVE. TWO OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THEY'VE DONE THE O VILLA AT LEGACY SQUARE IN RED OAK AND BEACON AT WESTMORELAND, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET. AND AGAIN, EXTREMELY HIGH QUALITY MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE RETAIL COMPONENT, AS MR. HARBOR SAID WAS, IS BEING DEVELOPED, PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED BY A NOBLE REAL ESTATE AND, UH, AGAIN, LONG TERM REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS, UH, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE. WAYLON LINOS IS, IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WITH US. HE HAS 26 YEARS OF RETAIL EXPERIENCE, AND YES, HE DOES. HE HAS BEEN MARKETING THE SITE AND THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN TOW? THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO IN TOW UNTIL WE HAVE THE ZONING, BUT HE'S BEEN MARKETING THE SITE. HE'S GOT PROSPECTS UNDER, UH, UNDERWAY. YES, AGAIN, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE, UH, THIS, THIS KIND OF INTERESTING SEPARATELY, TOGETHER THEY HAVE A COMBINED 500 PLUS RETAIL PROJECTS UNDER THEIR BELTS. UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND HERE ARE A COUPLE, FEW PHOTOS OF SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS THEY'VE DONE AND THE CHICK-FIL-A YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE AS BEING ACROSS THE STREET. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, I, I, I, I, I'M REMISS I, IF I DON'T THINK THIS JORDAN, FOR HER HELP ON THIS PROJECT. SHE'S REALLY, UH, SHEPHERD US ALONG THIS, THIS SYSTEM. [00:55:01] AND, UM, SHE MENTIONED THAT WE ARE COMING IN WITH THIS PAR PORTION OF THE, THE PD 15.9 ACRES OUT OF THE 17. THE NORTHEAST CORNER IS NOT PART OF THIS, UH, BUT YOU CAN SEE OUTLINED AND THIS SLIDE, UH, THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AGAIN, THE, THIS IS THE EXISTING ZONING. UH, THIS, UH, IS PD 1 0 1. OUR PROPOSAL IS, IS TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, DO A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. DO, UH, SOMETHING THAT, UH, WOULD BE A SUCCESSFUL, WILL BE A SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT THERE BASED ON THE CITY'S CONFERENCE PLAN. SO RETAIL AND THE MULTI-FAMILY. WE'RE PROPOSING 235 CLASS A MARKET RATE, MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, NINE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS, AND THE CLUBHOUSE. AND AS MS. GEORGIA SAID, UH, ALL THE BUILDINGS, EIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS ARE THREE STORY, ONE IS FOUR STORY, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THERE'S A GRADE CHANGES. MR. HARBOR SAID A SIGNIFICANT GRADE CHANGE. SO THAT ONE BUILDING IN ORDER TO KEEP MAINTAIN THE SAME HEIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO FOUR STORIES. IT'S JUST THAT ONE BUILDING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF, OF THE, UH, THE, THE, THE POOL AREA, THE TWO PAD SITES. WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, PROVIDING AN EASEMENT FOR THE FUTURE TRAIL SYSTEM AND CONSTRUCTING THE TRAIL AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. YES, SIR. UM, AND UM, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE PLAY AREAS AND WE'RE PUTTING A TRAIL AROUND ONE OF THE PLAY AREAS AS WELL THAT WILL BE CONNECTED. IF GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO AGAIN, UM, I THINK THIS SHOWS A LITTLE BIT BETTER THE, THE DEVELOPMENT IN COLOR, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE, GREEN SPACE. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE NINE BUILDINGS, YOU CAN SEE THE POOL AREA. THE ONE BUILDING TO JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE POOL AREA IS OUR FOUR STORY TO, AGAIN, ACCOMMODATE FOR THE GRADE, THE TRAILS OVER ON THE WEST SIDE. UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, UH, COMMISSIONER GRAHAM, THAT WE DON'T WANT TO NAIL DOWN THE LOCATION OF THE TRAIL RIGHT NOW. IT'S USUALLY YOU WANNA GET OUT THERE, BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND SEE WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH. UH, WHEN YOU PUT A PUT A TRAIL OUT THERE, I'VE WORKED ON SEVERAL OF 'EM. THAT'S, THIS IS CONCEPTUAL PLAN. IT'LL BE NAILED DOWN DURING, DURING THE SITE PLAN PROCESS. YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A DOG PARK. WE'VE GOT RECREATION AREAS, TRAIL AROUND THE RECREATION AREA, UP ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER, UH, THE CLUBHOUSE. AND, AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE OUR INTERNAL, UH, STREET INTERNAL TRAIL SYSTEM. AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, SIX FOOT METAL PICKET FENCE AROUND THIS SITE WITH, UH, ON THE, UH, NORTH AND WEST SIDE WITH MASONRY COLUMNS EVERY 200 FEET. AND, UH, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE THE SIX FOOT MASONRY SCREEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. AND I'LL, I'LL EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SCREENING AND THE EDGE TREATMENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL ON THE SOUTH SIDE A LITTLE BIT LATER. WE HAVE A REAL GOOD SLIDE THAT SHOWS THAT, UH, NEXT SLIDE. THE NEXT FEW SLIDES SHOW SOME, UH, PICTURES OF WHAT WE INTEND THIS TO LOOK LIKE. THIS IS LOOKING AT THE CLUBHOUSE FROM WESTMORELAND, YOU CAN SEE IN, UH, TO THE SITE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AN AERIAL LOOKING SOUTHWEST, SOUTHEAST LEAF FROM BELTLINE ROAD. SO THOSE ARE THE, THE RETAIL, YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE, UH, MULTIFAMILY AT THE BACK. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UM, A BIRD'S EYE AERIAL VIEW LOOKING NORTHWESTERLY, SO AS IF YOU'RE ON TOP OF THE BEACON LOOKING, LOOKING NORTHWEST. AND, UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. YOU CAN SEE OUR PROPOSED, UH, CARPORTS AND PROPOSED DETACHED GARAGES AS WELL. AND, AND THOSE ARE QUALITY. THOSE, THOSE DO ADD TO THE QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT WHEN YOU PUT IN A A, A SEP SEPARATE GARAGE, A DETACHED GARAGE, SO FOLKS HAVE A GARAGE TO USE AS WELL. UM, YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN GREENERY, THE, UH, OPEN SPACE IN THE GREEN SPACE. NEXT SLIDE. AND THIS IS THE POOL AREA. OH, I THINK WE SKIPPED ONE POOL AREA, UH, RECREATION AREA WITH THE CLUBHOUSE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THESE ARE, UM, THE, THE ELEVATIONS FOR THESE RENDERINGS ARE IN ACTUALLY PART OF THE PD. SO YOU SEE THE, THE, THE, THE QUALITY AND THE STYLE OF ARCHITECTURE, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER PICTURES THAT I SHOWED PREVIOUSLY IN THIS SLIDE. SO IT'S VERY NICE, VERY NICE ARCHITECTURE. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE BUILDING LOOKING FROM, UM, BELTLINE ROAD. SO AGAIN, THIS IS, IT'S THE STYLE OF ARCHITECTURE WE ARE PROPOSING. UM, MY BACKGROUND IS IN PLANNING. I'M A, I'M A CERTIFIED PLANNER AS WELL. I'M PROUD OF THAT AS WELL AS BEING AN ATTORNEY. AND, UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE ALWAYS GO BACK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OH GREAT. AND AS MR. JORDAN SAID, UH, THE PROPERTY'S DESIGNATED THE DESTINATION MIXED USE AND THE DESTINATION MIXED USE. I, I [01:00:01] WON'T READ THE WHOLE THING, BUT IT DOES SPECIFICALLY SUPPORT THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WE ARE PROPOSING. IT'S MIXED USE. IT HAS RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL. UM, ACTUALLY THE RESIDENTIAL IS SPECIFICALLY SUPPORTED AS PART OF A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. SO WE CAN CHECK OFF THAT BOX. WE DO, WE ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. NEXT SLIDE. UH, IT WAS REFERENCED TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH. WE DID HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. WE HAD ABOUT 15 FOLKS SHOW UP A GREAT MEETING THAT NIGHT. WE HAD SOME REALLY CONSTRUCTIVE INFORMATION COMMENTS, UM, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A VERY GOOD MEETING. SO WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE TRAFFIC ISSUES. UM, YOU KNOW, OUR TRAFFIC AND OUR, UH, CIVIL ENGINEERS HERE, UH, WILL ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE TRAFFIC OR THE TIA WE CAN DIRECT SPECIFICALLY TO, UH, TO JOSH. BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING A FEW THINGS. WESTMORELAND IS BEING UPGRADED TO, I BELIEVE, A SIX LANE ROAD. UM, THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE AMOUNT OF RETAIL THAT'S THERE THAT'S PERMITTED UNDER THE EXISTING SITE PLAN IS OVER 150,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, WHICH COULD ADD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC TO THE ROAD. SO I THINK, UM, WE ARE DOING THE TIA, WE DID GET COMMENTS BACK. WE ARE AGREEABLE TO THE FOUR SUGGESTIONS THAT BOB, THE CITY'S CONSULTANT MENTIONED. UH, AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH, WITH THAT, UH, TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. THE NEXT SLIDE IS ONE I I THINK I'D LIKE TO SPEND SOME TIME ON. 'CAUSE I KNOW THE QUESTION WAS RAISED ABOUT THE EDGE TREATMENT OF THE RESIDENTIAL ON THE SOUTH SIDE. WE ARE WANTING TO BE VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT. UM, WE DON'T WANT TO BE RIGHT ON TOP OF THEM. AS WAS MENTIONED, WE'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE THREE STORY BUILDINGS AT, AT THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY. BUT WHAT THIS DRAWING SHOWS, IT'S PRETTY HARD TO READ IS THAT, UM, THE, YOU CAN SEE THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH ON THE TOP. THERE ARE TWO HORIZONTAL OR VERTICAL LINES. UH, ONE TO THE LEFT IS OH TWO, ONE TO THE RIGHT IS OH ONE. THE CROSS SECTIONS BELOW RELATE TO THOSE TWO LINES. SO WHERE YOU SEE THE OH TWO, UM, THE BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 141 FEET AWAY FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THE SOUTH SIDE. SO WITHIN THAT 141 FEET, YOU'VE GOT LANDSCAPE AREA, YOU'VE GOT PARKING SPACES, YOU HAVE THE FIRE LANE, YOU HAVE A CARPORT, THAT'S A PHYSICAL BARRIER AS WELL. UH, YOU HAVE THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT, WHICH WOULD BE A, A, A, A VEGETATIVE BUFFER AS WELL. THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER, UH, FENCE OR, UH, PRECAST CONCRETE FENCE. ACTUALLY THAT WOULD BE A CON UH, THE CONCRETE MASONRY FENCE. THEN YOU HAVE A, ANOTHER SEPARATION. SO OUR PROPOSED BUILDINGS ARE NOT RIGHT ON TOP OF THE SINGLE FAMILY. THEY ARE SET BACK PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE TO THE RIGHT, THE OH ONE, UH, VERTICAL LINE, WHICH RELATES TO THE CROSS SECTION BELOW, IT'S AGAIN A, A APPROXIMATELY 140 FEET. THAT PROPOSED BUILDING IS ABOUT 140 FEET AWAY FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME. SO, YOU KNOW, 75 YARDS, 74 YARDS, YOU KNOW, ALMOST THREE QUARTERS WITH FOOTBALL FIELD AWAY. UM, THEN YOU, UH, I'M SORRY, ABOUT 50 YARDS AWAY, 50 YARDS AWAY. UH, UH, THEN WITHIN THAT SAME 140 FEET, UH, YOU'VE GOT AGAIN, UH, THE LANDSCAPE AREA, PARKING SPACES, FIRE LANE. AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE YOU'VE GOT, UH, A, A DETACHED GARAGE. SO YOU HAVE A, A ACTUAL STRUCTURE THERE AS WELL. THEN WE'VE GOT THE LANDSCAPE AISLE, THEN YOU'VE GOT OUR PRIVACY FENCE SCREENING FENCE, RATHER, THEN YOU HAVE THE ALLEY AND THEN THE DISTANCE TO THE HOME. SO AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY FAR DISTANCE, UH, BETWEEN, AND WE WORKED WITH STAFF ON THIS, WE, SO THAT THESE BUILDINGS WOULDN'T BE RIGHT ON TOP OF THE PROPERTY LINE. SO THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF SEPARATION. NOT ONLY SEPARATION, THERE ARE THINGS IN BETWEEN, PHYSICAL THINGS IN BETWEEN THAT ALSO PROVIDE THAT SAME AMOUNT OF BUFFER. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, I GUESS IN IN SUMMARY, WE ARE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AS WAS, UH, REPRESENTED. YOU KNOW, WE'VE COME, WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH, WITH STAFF BOTH ON THE PLANNING SIDE AND THE TRAFFIC SIDE. WE'RE CONTINUED TO WORK ON THE TRAFFIC SIDE AND, UM, REALLY APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. WE THINK WE'VE COME A LONG WAY. WE THINK THIS IS A REALLY EXCITING PROJECT FOR THE STATE OF DESOTO. UM, AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. OUR WHOLE TEAM [01:05:01] IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME. APPRECIATE IT. GREAT, THANK YOU. UM, STAPLE PUT, MR. DTRA, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I TYPICALLY LET COMMISSIONERS GO FIRST WITH QUESTIONS, BUT I DO WANT YOU TO ADDRESS, UM, TWO THINGS. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DEVIATIONS AND SURE. UH, SPECIFICALLY CAN THIS DEVELOPMENT MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THEM? AND SECOND, IF THIS ACTION WAS DELAYED UNTIL AFTER THE TIA WAS COMPLETE, WOULD THAT CAUSE A HARDSHIP FOR THE APPLICANT? I'D LIKE TO CONFER WITH MY, THE, ON THE BUSINESS GUYS ON THAT, THAT IF WE COULD GO TO THE, THE DEVIATIONS FIRST. YES, OF COURSE. THAT, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I WROTE IT. I THINK THE FIRST AND EASIEST ONE IS THE HEIGHT. WE'RE ONLY REQUESTING FOUR STORIES IN ONE BUILDING, AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE GRADE DIFFERENCE. UH, SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN THE SAME HEIGHT ACROSS THE, UH, THE CAMPUS, IF YOU WILL. WE BELIEVE THE, UH, REDUCTION IN THE ONE BEDROOM FROM 800 TO TO 6 75 IS MORE IN LINE. LET'S ONE SECOND. LET HER GET THEM UP. PLEASE, SIR. SURE. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE REDUCTION FROM THE 800 SQUARE FEET TO THE 6 75 IS MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE SEE AS THE MARKET WOULD SPEND THE MARKET OUT THERE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF MANY PEOPLE ARE BUILDING 800 SQUARE FOOT ONE BEDROOMS RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DO ARE PROPOSING INCREASE IN THE TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS, AS WAS STATED, THE ENCLOSED PARKING SPACE FROM 50 TO 15.6%, LET'S SAY. UM, THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE DID ACROSS THE STREET AT THE BEACON. IT'S BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROJECT. WE THINK THAT THAT'S, UH, AGAIN, MORE IN LINE WITH THE, THE MARKET AND WHAT FOLKS ARE LOOKING FOR MAXIMUM BUILDING LENGTH. THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE. I ASKED THIS QUESTION AS WELL. UH, 300 FEET GIVES US MORE FACADE ROOM TO WORK WITH TO MAKE IT MORE OF AN URBAN SETTING RATHER THAN 200 FEET FOOT BUILDINGS. SO WE THINK THAT'S PART OF THE DESIGN ELEMENT. UM, TO GO FROM TWO TO 300, UH, MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT, THREE TO FOUR STORES I MENTIONED WE ONLY HAVE ONE BUILDING AND THAT'S A RESULT OF THE, THE, UH, TOPOGRAPHY, THE REFUSE FACILITIES. UM, THIS IS SOMETHING I'M SEEING MORE AND MORE OF IN THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS. I'M WORKING THROUGHOUT THE EVERYWHERE ACTUALLY. UH, IT'S MORE OF A, WE'VE GOT ONE PLACE TO PUT THE TRASH. YOU DON'T WANT THREE OR FOUR TRASH LOCATIONS WITHIN THE PROPERTY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE GOING AND HAVE A CONCIERGE SERVICE WHERE PEOPLE ARE PICKING UP TRASH FROM EACH OF THE UNITS AND TAKING IT TO THE, UH, THE, UH, COMPACTOR. SO THAT'S THE REASON WE THINK IT'S, UH, NOT AS, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE, MORE OF AN AESTHETIC ISSUE. UH, YOU DON'T HAVE AS MANY OPEN TRASH CONTAINERS. PLUS WE HAVE THE CONCIERGE SERVICE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A, A MAJOR BENEFIT TO FOLKS WHO WANNA LIVE THERE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE TRASH TO THEIR, TO THE DUMPSTER. THEY CAN LEAVE IT OUT AND LET THE, UH, CONCIERGE SERVICE TAKE IT. THE DETACHED GARAGES. I, I, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU CHAIRMAN, THAT UH, IT IS A BENEFIT TO HAVE LARGER GARAGE SPACES, DETACHED GARAGE SPACES. I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A BENEFIT AND AN ENHANCEMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AS THE SAME WITH THE CAR POINTS. MORE COVERED PARKING, I THINK LEADS TO A BETTER DEVELOPMENT AND MORE AND AN ENHANCED DEVELOPMENT. I'M GONNA ASK ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, UH, UH, THOMPSON REALTY BROGAN, IF HE HAD ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD. BROGAN MILLER. BROGAN MILLER, DALLAS, TEXAS. SO I'LL JUST START AT THE TOP AS WELL AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ADD A FEW MORE DETAILS TO WHAT BILL HAD SAID. SO, MINIMUM AREA PER DWELLING UNIT. SO THAT'S FOR THE ONE BEDROOM. OF COURSE, WE DON'T NEED TO GO BACK OVER THAT ONE. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE COLOR ON IT. THE ENCLOSED PARKING SPACES. SO WE ARE MEETING THE 25% CARPORTS FOR ENCLOSED PARKING. WE MET WITH CITY STAFF, CITY MANAGER, COUNCIL MEMBER NORTH, UM, A FEW TIMES ABOUT THIS. WE ACTUALLY HAD LESS ENCLOSED PARKING SPACES AT ONE POINT IN TIME AND WE DID WHAT WE COULD TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER UP TO GET TO 15.58 HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN DISCUSSED ON THIS PROJECT. THERE IS MAJOR TOPOGRAPHY THAT GOES, YOU KNOW, SLOPES FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST. SO WHAT IS VIABLE TO GET ONTO THE PROJECT IS THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. AND ALSO ADDING EVEN MORE. WE HAVE FOUND THAT WHEN YOU ADD TOO MANY GARAGES THAT THEY SIT EMPTY AND THEY AREN'T UTILIZED. SO IT'S JUST EMPTY SPACE THAT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED, WHICH CREATES OTHER PARKING CONSTRAINTS FOR TENANTS. THE MAXIMUM BUILDING LENGTH. SO THIS IS ONLY AT THE ONE BUILDING THAT'S [01:10:01] EMPTY. CAN YOU GO TO THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN PLEASE? OR CONCEPT PLAN? DO YOU HAVE A, A LASER POINTER? DO SO THAT'S, EXCUSE ME, THAT IS THIS L-SHAPE BUILDING RIGHT HERE. SO IN TALKING WITH, UM, CITY STAFF COUNCIL MEMBER, NORTH CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME, AND MATT CARLSON, WHO'S THE EDC DIRECTOR AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS A REQUEST TO MAKE THIS MORE OF AN URBAN STYLE PROJECT AS WELL. AND SO WHAT WE CALL, WE CALL IT GUR, WHICH IS GARDEN STYLE WITH AN URBAN STYLE. SO THERE WAS A REQUEST TO INCORPORATE ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS, AND THAT'S THIS BUILDING RIGHT HERE. SO THAT'S THE ONE BUILDING THAT HAS THE DEVIATION TO GO ABOVE THE 200 FEET. SO THAT'S THE 300 FOOT BUILDING. AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED IF YOU GO TO THE DEVIATION LIST. SO I CAN JUST DO IT HERE THAT ONLY HALF OF THIS BUILDING IS THE FOUR STORIES. AND THAT'S JUST TO WORK WITH THAT GRAY TRAIN OR GRADE TRAIN CHANGE AS IT GOES DOWN TO THE WEST. THE REFUSE FACILITIES BUILDING. AND THAT BUILDING ALSO HAS AN ELEVATOR. THAT WAS ANOTHER REQUEST. SO THAT BUILDING HAS AN ELEVATOR FOR TENANTS AND IT'S AN ADDITIONAL AMENITY TO THE PROJECT REFUSE FACILITIES BILL HIT ON THIS AS WELL. SO WE OFFER TO OUR RESIDENTS, UH, VALET TRASH, WHICH IS VALET TRASH COMES AND PICKS UP TRASH FROM THEIR DOORSTEPS FIVE DAYS A WEEK. AND THEN THE TRASH COMPACTOR IS ALSO AVAILABLE IF SOMEBODY HAS AN ITEM THAT THEY NEED TO GO THROW AWAY THAT THEY CAN PUT IN THERE OR THEY CAN SET IT TO THE SIDE OF IT AND, AND PUT IT IN THERE. DETACHED GARAGES. THIS IS AN ENHANCEMENT ASKING FOR A BIGGER SPACE AND THE CAR PORTS AS WELL TO, IT'S AN ENHANCEMENT AS WELL TO EXPAND THOSE AS WELL. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? I DO, YES MA'AM. COMMISSIONER EDWARDS? YES. YES. THANK YOU. SO I KNOW WE, WE TALKED ABOUT REDUCING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE, UM, ONE BEDROOM. WHAT DEVIATION OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE SQUARE FOOT IN, UH, INCREASE FOR THE TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS? SO THE THREE BEDROOM, IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT A DEVIATION 'CAUSE IT'S AN ENHANCEMENT 'CAUSE IT'S NOT BELOW. SO THE, THE TWO BEDROOMS THEY GO FROM WHAT MULTIFAMILY 18 CURRENTLY REQUIRES IN THE BASE IS 950 SQUARE FEET. OUR BASE IS 1,050, SO IT'S A HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT INCREASE. AND THEN THE THREE BEDROOMS MF 18 BASE IS 1100 SQUARE FEET. AND WE'RE, AND OURS WE HAVE 1,250 SQUARE FEET. 1250 MM-HMM . SO IT'S AN INCREASE OF A HUNDRED ON THE TWO BEDROOMS, AN INCREASE OF ONE 50 ON THE THREE ALSO, I, UH, THE GENTLEMAN TALKED ABOUT HAVING A COMMUNITY MEETING. WAS THERE JUST ONE COMMUNITY MEETING? THERE WAS, OR WAS THERE SEVERAL? THERE WAS ONE. THERE WAS ONE COMMUNITY MEETING. ONE, MM-HMM . UM, WHAT, AND YOU MAY NOT RECALL, BUT WHAT WAS THE GENERAL CONSENSUS OF THE FOLKS THAT YOU GUYS SAW? I KNOW, I THINK YOU SAID HE HAD ABOUT 15 FOLKS. I WOULD EXPECT YES. I CAN SPEAK TO THE MULTIFAMILY. I'LL LET WAYLON SPEAK FOR THE RETAIL OR FOR, FOR THAT PIECE OF IT. THE GENERAL CONSENSUS FOR THE MULTI WAS THE CONCERNS OF VISIBILITY. WE DISCUSSED THOSE WITH FOLKS. FEEL LIKE WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT. UM, THE OTHER ITEM OF CONCERN WAS WITH SURROUNDING RESIDENTS, WOULD THIS BE A MARKET RATE OR A TAX CREDIT DEAL? MEANING WOULD IT BE PUBLICLY FUNDED OR WOULD IT BE PRIVATELY FUNDED? WOULD IT BE A, YOU KNOW, MARKET RATE, CLASS A AND WE BUILD CLASS A MARKET RATE DEALS. SO THAT ALLEVIATED A LOT OF CONCERNS FROM, UM, SURROUNDING COMMUNITY MEMBERS. AND LAST QUESTION, UH, WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE, UH, COMMUNITY MEETING TYPICALLY? SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE OTHER, UH, COMMITMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, CAN'T ATTEND OR, OR IS THAT THE BASE FOR YOU? WE WERE, WE WERE REQUESTED TO HAVE ONE COMMUNITY MEETING, SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. BEFORE I GET TO VICE CHAIR GRAHAM ON THE COMMUNITY MEETING, DID YOU RECEIVE ANY LETTERS OF, UM, STATEMENTS STATING THAT THEY WERE IN FAVOR? I DON'T SEE ANYONE HERE TONIGHT SPEAKING UP. WE DID NOT IN FAVOR, FAVOR OF THE, BUT THERE WAS THE, THE LADY THAT I HAD THE PICTURE WITH IN THE PRESENTATION, MS. CAROLYN, SHE WAS, SHE LOVED IT. SHE WAS IN FAVOR OF IT. THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE THERE THAT WERE EXCITED ABOUT IT AS WELL. UM, I WISH THAT THEY HAD WRITTEN LETTER, WRITTEN LETTERS IN, BUT YES, THERE WAS SUPPORT AT THE MEETING. VICE CHAIR. YES. BEAR WITH ME. I'M SORRY. I DO, UH, MY NORMAL JOB IS DEVELOPMENT IN NEW, UH, MULTIFAMILY. SO I GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. OKAY. FIRST QUESTION FOR SOME CLARITY IS, UH, WHAT IS, HOW MANY UNITS DO YOU GUYS HAVE FOR THE ONE [01:15:01] BEDROOMS? THERE ARE A HUNDRED TWENTY THREE ONE A OR, UH, ONE BEDROOM UNITS. 123 WERE, UH, AT THE MARK, WHICH YOU GUYS BUILT AND CONSTRUCTED, WHICH LATER WAS BEACONS AT WESTMORELAND. YOU DID 1 24. SO ALMOST THE SAME, CORRECT? IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME, YES. ALRIGHT. THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU HAD DEVIATIONS THERE TOO, CORRECT. FROM THE 800. SO WE DID NOT TAKE THAT ONE THROUGH THE ZONING COMMISSION. UM, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER AND, AND GO BACK AND CHECK. BUT IF THE, THIS IS FROM 1997, UH, RIGHT. STAFF. SO THE DEVIATIONS, YOU GUYS DID 700 TO 777 SQUARE FEET FOR THE ONE BEDROOMS OF 124 UNITS AT THE WESTMORELAND PROPERTY. SO IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY SAY THERE WAS SOME DEVIATIONS THERE? CORRECT. OKAY. UM, WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WE'RE LOSING HERE, ARE WE GETTING IT BACK THE SAME OR HIGHER IN THE TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS? IT'S CLOSE TO A WASH. OKAY. IF YOU DID, IT'S ROUGHLY 4,000 SQUARE FEET DIFFERENCE ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROJECT OVER, YOU'RE GOOD. 200,000 SQUARE FEET. YEAH. GOT IT. UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, THE BUILDING THAT YOU DID, THE FOURTH FLOOR, THE, OUR AMENITIES IN THAT BUILDING, OR THAT'S JUST THE FOURTH, YOU JUST DID THAT ONE. WE JUST DID THAT ONE BUILDING WORK WITH THE GRAY, THE CAMRA. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE CYCLING PLEASE? SO THE AMENITIES WILL BE, OUR CLUBHOUSE BUILDING IS RIGHT HERE. SO THAT WILL HOUSE THE, FOR THOSE, YOU CAN SEE IT'S THIS BUILDING RIGHT HERE. SO THAT'LL HAVE OUR FITNESS, OUR LEASING MANAGER'S OFFICE, COMMUNITY MAIL, UH, CLUB LOUNGE, POSSIBLY A GAME ROOM IN THERE SO THAT, THAT WILL HOUSE ALL THE AMENITIES. AWESOME. AND I KNOW THIS TIA IS PENDING, UH, BUT YOU GUYS ARE PRIVY, UH, BECAUSE YOU'D BUILD SOMETHING, RIGHT? NOT EVEN, I WOULDN'T SAY I CAN THROW ROCK FROM YOUR, FROM THE TOTAL CARE TO THE WESTMORELAND. CORRECT. SO YOU GUYS DID A TIA FOR THAT PROPERTY? FOR THE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER? I'M, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT, UH, WESTMORE, THE, THE MARK. YOU GUYS CALL IT THE MARK, BUT IT'S THE BEACON THAT WEST, OH, WE CALLED IT THE BEACON ON WESTMORELAND AND I, I THINK IT MAY HAVE CHANGED. OKAY. UM, I DON'T RECALL THAT TIA OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. OKAY. I'M SORRY. OKAY. UM, AND THEN YOU GUYS, UH, LEASE IT UP AND SELL IT. YOU GUYS OPENED, UH, FOR LEASING IN 20 END OF 2020 BEGINNING OF 21 AND SOLD IT IN 21 IN THE SUMMER, CORRECT? WE DID. IS THAT THE SAME RINSE AND REPEAT FOR THIS PROJECT? SO OUR INTENT FOR THIS PROJECT IS TO HAVE IT AS A LONG-TERM HOLD. OKAY. AND WE, IS THAT A 10 YEAR HOLD? IT DEPENDS, BUT ROUGHLY. OKAY. UM, BUT AGAIN, WE LIKES DESOTO. WE'VE DONE OBVIOUSLY ONE PROJECT HERE. WE WANNA BE BACK IN DESOTO. AND THEN, UH, MR. BRUCE, UM, STATED THAT YOU HAVE TWO SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS, NOT DRIVE-THROUGHS. I WILL DEFER TO THE RETAIL. OKAY. WILL THEY, UH, NEXT QUESTION. WILL THE RETAIL HAVE A PIECE OF IT AND THE MULTIFAMILY BE, HAVE, HAVE THE SAME MANAGEMENT? THEY'LL BE SEPARATE PROPERTY MANAGERS, THEY'LL BE SEPARATE. THAT'S COMPLETELY OKAY. GOT IT. AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US FOR THOMPSON REALTY CAPITAL, WE OWN AND WE ALSO MANAGE OUR OWN PROPERTIES. WE DON'T HAVE A THIRD PARTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY, SO THAT'S ALL IN HOUSE WITH US. GOT IT. AND THEN THE TRASH, UM, DEVIATION. CAN WE GO TO THE D DEVIATIONS? UH, SO THE TRASH DEVIATION, IT WAS STATED THAT THE COMPACTOR FOR A MULTIFAMILY IS A POSITIVE. IT CAN BE A PRO OR CON, BUT I'LL TAKE IT AS A PRO TONIGHT WITH YOU GUYS. AND YOU STATED THAT VALET TRASH IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. AND THIS IS JUST FOR Y'ALL'S KNOWLEDGE. THIS IS WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO AT OUR DEVELOPMENTS. WHAT WE HAVE FOUND WHEN THERE'S MULTIPLE TRASH FACILITIES THROUGHOUT OUR PROJECT, IT BECOMES UNSIGHTLY AND TRASH BECOMES STACKED AND IT JUST, IT'S NOT A BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE. AND THEN YOUR DETACHED GARAGES, UH, YOU INCREASED IT BY A LONG SHOT, RIGHT? WE DID. UM, AND YOU STATED THEY SIT FOR A LONG TIME. IF WE, IF YOU DO TOO MANY OF THEM CORRECT. WE STILL INCREASED IT BY WAY MORE THAN WHAT YOU NEEDED TO. WAS THOSE NUMBERS OR THAT BASIS BASED ON, UH, YOUR HISTORY WITH THE PREVIOUS UH, COMMUNITY? CORRECT. WHERE YOU GUYS ALWAYS HAD A HIGH, I WOULDN'T SAY WE ALWAYS DO IT THAT WAY, BUT TYPICALLY WHAT WE HAVE FOUND, WE, THE LARGER GARAGE BUILDINGS DO BETTER WITH A 480 SQUARE FOOT DETACHED GARAGE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THREE, MAYBE FOUR BAYS IN A GARAGE. WHEREAS THIS, WE'RE ALLOWING UP TO SEVEN BAYS IN A GARAGE. SO IT HELPS IT. SO BASED ON BUILDING CARPORTS AND DETACHED GARAGES, THE REGULAR PARKING, OPEN PARKING THAT WON'T BE CHARGED OR AN UPCHARGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. [01:20:01] HOW MANY SPOTS DO YOU HAVE FOR JUST SURFACE PARK? JUST SURFACE PARK. WE HAVE 212 SURFACE PARK. AND IT'S 235 UNITS, RIGHT? CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL I GOT. WE'RE AT A 1.89 PARKING RATIO. COMMISSIONER ALEXIS, GOOD EVENING. I APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, EFFORTS TO ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR RESIDENTS. COULD YOU TELL ME THE DATE OF THAT MEETING? I THINK IT'S, IT'S ON THE PRESENTATION. IT'S FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY 26TH. 2026. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CLASS A MARKET RATE. YES. IS THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT ALSO CLASS A? IT IS. AND WHAT'S, COULD IT EVER GO FROM CLASS A TO CLASS B? WHAT IS THAT PROCESS LIKE? SO YES, IT COULD, SO OVER THE LIFE CYCLE OF A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, IT CAN GO FROM CLASS A TO CLASS B AND CLASS C. SO OVER TIME YOUR OLDER PROJECTS COULD BE CONSIDERED A CLASS B OR A CLASS C. BUT CURRENTLY BEACON ON WESTMORELAND OR THE DEAL JUST ACROSS TO THE EAST OF OUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS STILL CONSIDERED A CLASS A DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. AND WHAT WOULD BE, UM, WHAT WOULD IMPACT THE RATING OR THE DECISION TO LOWER THE CLASS? TYPICALLY IT'S MARKET DRIVEN. IT'S MARKET. OKAY. THANK YOU. CORRECT. THAT WAS ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LARO? YES, GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. UM, WITH YOUR OTHER PROPERTY, THE BEACON, UM, ARE THERE ANY LESSONS LEARNED THAT WE'RE BRINGING ONTO THIS PROJECT? OR ARE WE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT THAT DID PRETTY WELL? WE'RE TRYING TO REPLICATE IT. I WOULDN'T SAY THERE'S JUST LESSONS LEARNED FROM THAT PROJECT, BUT WE LEARN LESSONS FROM ALL OF OUR PROJECTS THAT WE DO. UH, ONE BEING UNIT TYPES, UNIT LAYOUTS, UNIT SIZES. UM, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, ON OUR ONE BEDROOM SIZES, WE FIND WHEN THEY GET TOO BIG, THEY, THEY'LL SIT VACANT AS WELL. SO THAT'S, IT PLAYS INTO THE WHOLE DECISION. SO WE LEARN LESSONS THROUGH, ACROSS ALL OF OUR, OUR DEVELOPMENTS. WE'RE TRYING TO ALWAYS INCORPORATE BETTER IDEAS. WHAT WORKS, WHAT DOESN'T WORK IS THAT ME? OKAY. UM, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE LEARNED THAT AMENITIES REALLY SET OUR PROJECTS APART. SO THAT'S WHY WE LIKE DOING GER POOLS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE SHOWCASING ON THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW. UM, ELEVATORS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THAT LARGER BUILDING, THAT'S ALSO A GREAT BENEFIT TO HAVE ON A PROJECT BECAUSE SOME FOLKS DON'T WANT TO WALK STAIRS TO THEIR UNITS. UM, SO YEAH, THERE WE'VE LEARNED A LOT OF LESSONS THROUGHOUT ALL OUR PROJECTS AND TRYING TO MAKE BETTER PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD. AND WERE YOU GUYS, WERE YOU GUYS ALSO PART OF THE RETAIL IN FRONT OF THE BEACON OR IS THAT A SEPARATE PROJECT? WE WERE NOT, BUT NOBLE WAS. OKAY. I'LL, I'LL SAVE MY QUESTION FOR NOBLE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I DO. OKAY. VICE CHAIR. UM, QUICK QUESTION. UH, ARE, IS THERE ANY CONCERNS THAT WITH VACANCY OF THE CURRENT PROJECT WHEN YOU GUYS OPENED YOUR PROJECT? NOT WHEN WE OWNED IT. IT WAS, IT WAS DOING VERY, VERY WELL AND I BELIEVE IT'S STILL DOING VERY, VERY WELL. OKAY. AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME CLARITY JUST 'CAUSE AGAIN, I WORK IN THE INDUSTRY AFTER ABOUT 10 YEARS, IT CAN DROP DOWN BEACONS. I MEAN RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, UH, IS THE TOWN CENTER DESOTO AND WHEN THEY OPENED, THEY WERE CLASS A IN 2008, BUT NOW THEY'RE CONSIDERED CLASS B JUST DUE TO THE TIME. I DO WANT ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONERS. I DO, UH, WANNA RE, COMMISSIONER JONES, YOU HAD SOMETHING. YEAH, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. YES. THE LACK OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THAT'S REALLY A CONCERN TO ME. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME. YOU'RE EXPERTS AT IT. WHY, WHY WOULD WE NOT BE SO COMPREHENSIVE IN MAKING SURE THAT WE HAD TO STUDY? 'CAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT, RIGHT? SO WE GOT 300 UNITS GOING TO BE SINGLE FAMILY PARKVILLE AND IT'S A MILE AWAY. WE GOTTA BE TRANSPARENT AND TELL OUR COMMUNITY WHAT TO EXPECT AND WHAT TO ANTICIPATE. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, AND IF THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT, YOU GOT ALL OF THESE BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING AND THE DEVELOPMENT LOOKS GREAT AND WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND YOU CHECK OFF ALL THE BOXES, BUT YOU ARE DELAYING NOT GETTING THE TRAFFIC STUDY. SO THAT'S CONCERNING. I WILL LET OUR CIVIL ENGINEER [01:25:01] SPEAK ABOUT THE, THE TIA. PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE FIRST. YES, JOSH MILLSAP, DALLAS, TEXAS. UH, UH, DEFINITELY HERE THE CONCERNS ON THE TRAFFIC, THE TIA WAS PROVIDED, WE'VE WORKED BACK WITH STAFF. THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, INFORMATION LOCATIONS THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE STUDIED. UM, AND WHAT WE'RE DEFINITELY WILLING TO DO THAT A LOT OF IT IS GONNA BE IMPACTFUL WITH THE WIDENING OF WESTMORELAND. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GO GO THAT THAT'S TIMING WISE FOR WHEN THIS PROJECT WOULD OPEN WOULD BE AF AT OR AFTER WESTMORELAND WIDENING AS WELL. SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE IMPACT GOING FROM THE TWO LANES, THE FOUR LANES. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH TRAFFIC AS, AS YOU GO DOWN TOWARDS THE HIGH SCHOOL. UH, THIS, THIS PART WOULD HAVE THAT ACCESS. UH, COMPONENT WISE, THE, JUST TO CONFIRM THE BACKGROUND TRAFFIC GROWTH RATE THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER, THE GROWTH RATE THAT HAS BEEN ASKED IS FOR THE OVERALL BACKGROUND GROWTH. SO THAT WOULD IMPACT BASED OFF OUR TRAFFIC STUDY AND OUR COUNTS. WHEN WE DID, THEY WERE DONE WHILE SCHOOL WAS IN SESSION. SO WE GOT ADEQUATE, WE GOT ACCURATE TRAFFIC RATES WHILE SCHOOL WAS ACCURATE. WAS THERE, UH, IT WAS ROUGHLY ABOUT 7,000 CARS A DAY AT THIS LO UH, AT THIS INTERSECTION. SO WITH THE GROWTH RATE OF 2.4%, WHICH IS WHAT THE CITY ADDS, THAT'S USUALLY, THAT'S GONNA BE AROUND 190, UH, CARS ADDED THE FIRST YEAR. AND THEN YOU'LL ADD YEAR FIVE AND YEAR 10 TO LOOK AT HOW THAT GROWTH RATE THAT HELPS FACTOR IN FUTURE GROWTH AROUND YOU AND WHAT THAT GROWTH IS OVERALL AND IMPACT, UH, IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE. ONE THING I WOULD WANT, UH, KIND OF NOTE IS WITH THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY, GOING FROM THE COMMERCIAL THAT'S CURRENTLY APPROVED BACK TO THE MULTIFAMILY AND UH, WHAT THE PROPOSED USE THAT IS GOING TO GREATLY DROP THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC IMPACT AT THIS INTERSECTION, UH, THE COMMERCIAL WOULD HAVE A MUCH HIGHER TRAFFIC RATE AND BRING A LOT MORE TRAFFIC AT THIS INTERSECTION THAN WHAT THE CURRENT PROPOSED ZONING THAT WE'RE COMING BEFORE YOU WITH AS WELL, UM, IS TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS WITH WHAT THE OFFSETS ARE WITH WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE DO HAVE EVERYTHING AS FAR AS WITH OLSON AND THE MD, WE HAVE REVIEWED THOSE. NOTHING WAS OUTSTANDING SHOWING THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A DETRIMENTAL IMPACT TO THE INTERSECTION OR THE SURROUNDING ROADWAYS. THERE ARE SOME COMPONENTS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO OFFSET WITH THE ADDITION OF A TURN LANE, RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT WE WOULD BE FULLY PAYING AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR. OR AS MD MENTIONED ALSO DOING A TRAFFIC SIGNAL TIMING ADJUSTMENT. AND THAT JUST HELPS ADJUST HOW LONG A LIGHT STAYS GREEN RED ARE MORE PEOPLE TURNING LEFT, RIGHT STRAIGHT. AND THAT'S LOOKING AT THE D DIFFERENT INTERSECTION TO HELP HELP BALANCE OUT THE INTERSECTION. UM, ESPECIALLY AS PEOPLE COME COME ON BOARD IF THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND RIGHT NOW WITH WHERE WE'RE AT IS WE'RE WORKING BACK WITH THAT. WE ALSO HAVE A TECH DOT COMPONENT WITH BELTLINE. SO THE TIA ULTIMATELY HAS TO GO BACK TO TDOT FOR A FEW ITEMS AS WELL. UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE WE, WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE A, THAT OUR TIA AND WE FEEL LIKE THAT IS GENERALLY THE TRAFFIC PROPOSED IS GENERALLY ACCEPTABLE AND WE'RE NOT BEING DETRIMENTAL OR CRANKY ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING ROADWAYS, BUT WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND KEEP WORKING THROUGH IT SO WE CAN WORK BACK WITH TXDOT, HAVE THE ADEQUATE CONVERSATIONS AND KEEP WORKING BACK WITH ENGINEERING AS WELL ON WHETHER THAT'S A TURN LANE. WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY COGNIZANT AND, UH, RESPECTFUL OF WHAT TRAFFIC IS HERE AND WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT OUT TO CREATE ANY ISSUES. I CAN DEFINITELY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. YEAH. AND I WANNA REVISIT MY ORIGINAL QUESTION, UM, REGARDING WOULD A DELAY UNTIL THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, JUST TO PIGGYBACK OFF COMMISSIONER JONES, WOULD A DELAY IN UM, MOVING THIS FORWARD CAUSE A HARDSHIP? 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COMMISSION IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, SO I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY ASK THAT QUESTION. UM, I MEAN PUSHING, PUSHING THE TIA AND GOING THROUGH WE'RE WE'RE HAVING SOME ADDITIONAL INTERSECTIONS TO STUDY IT WOULD HAVE A DELAY. UM, ULTIMATELY I DON'T SEE IT BEING AN IMPACT AT ALL FROM WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS. UM, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THAT WOULD BE, WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK, BACK TO Y'ALL WITH A SITE PLAN AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT, UH, COMPONENT IF WE COULD. UM, BUT WITHOUT, WITH THE TIA, UH, REGARDING, UH, WE FEEL AND BASED OFF STAFF AND STAFF AND, UH, YOUR ENGINEER CONSULTANT THAT [01:30:01] WE WERE FAIRLY COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE WERE AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS. COMMISSIONER WITH WHAT? WITH THE TIA THAT WE HAVE PREPARED TO DATE COMMISSIONER LARO, UM, COMING FROM, I BELIEVE I 35 HEADED WEST, IS THERE GOING TO BE A, A TURN LANE DIRECTLY ONTO THE PROPERTY OR THEY HAVE TO TURN ON WESTMORELAND AND THEN INTO THE PROPERTY COMING BACK FROM THE WEST, COMING BACK FROM I 35. SO COMING DOWN BELT LINE, COMING DOWN BELT LINE, UH, GOING BACK FROM THE WEST, UH, WE WOULD HAVE, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. UH, BOTH, BOTH DRIVEWAYS ON BELTLINE, UH, WHETHER WE WOULD, UH, THE NEED FOR A TURN LANE BASED OFF WHAT, WHAT THAT FINAL TRAFFIC WOULD BE AND THEN GET THE ADDITIONAL, BUT THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING ALSO WE NEED TO COORDINATE BACK AND GET PERMITTED BACK THROUGH TDOT AS WELL. I KNOW TDOT LIKES THEIR, UH, TURN LANES, UM, AS WELL. AND THAT'S, SO THERE'S UM, RIGHT THERE, UH, ON TURNING INTO OUR DEVELOPMENT INTO COMING BACK FROM EASTBOUND, UH, ON THE SOUTH, THERE'S, THERE'S CURRENTLY, THAT'S WHERE WE LOOK AT THE TURN LANES GOING LEFT BOUND AT THE, UH, WESTBOUND AT THE MEDIAN OPENING. THERE'S ALREADY A MEDIAN OPENING AND, AND TURN LANES CONSTRUCTED. OH, THAT'S VERY MEDIAN OPENING. YEAH. OKAY. SORRY. PERFECT. YEP, RIGHT HERE ACTUALLY. COMMISSIONER EDWARDS. YES, I I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION AND JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND. I I, YES MA'AM. I I BELIEVE THAT YOU SAID THAT WITH THE, UH, WITH THE PROPOSED DWELLING THAT THERE WILL NOT BE A, AN IMPACT ON THE, ON THE TRAFFIC RIGHT THERE WITH OBVIOUSLY WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT THERE WILL BE AN IMPACT TO TRAFFIC. WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER IS WITH THE PROPOSED ZONING, THERE'LL BE LESS IMPACT THAN WHAT WAS CURRENTLY APPROVED WITH THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THERE. OKAY, THAT'S FAIR. OKAY. HAVING SAID THAT, IF YOU ADD THE RETAIL COMPONENT TO THAT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? UH, I MEAN THERE'S STILL, THERE'S STILL IMPACT, BUT IT'S FAR LESS THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY APPROVED WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER AND RETAIL THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ZONED ON THE PROPERTY. THE, THE MULTIFAMILY JUST FROM A PEAK HOUR COMPONENT, UM, YOUR MULTIFAMILY IS GENERATING ABOUT THE ENTIRE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT GENERATES ABOUT THE SAME PEAK, IF NOT LESS THAN WHAT THE TWO, UH, RETAIL PADS THAT WE HAVE ON THE SITE RIGHT NOW. CAN, SINCE WE'RE ON THIS SLIDE, I'M SORRY YOU HAVE SOMETHING? NO, YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. SINCE WE'RE ON THIS SLIDE, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE, UM, RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT. CAN YOU IDENTIFY SPECIFICALLY WHERE THE COMMERCIAL WOULD BE? IS IT VISIBLE FROM BELTLINE ROAD? OH, THERE, IT'S, OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE VISIBLE RIGHT UP FRONT. GOT IT. UM, AND ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION, CAN WE GO BACK TO SLIDE SEVEN WITH THE DEVIATIONS? AND I'D LIKE TO JUST NOTE TOO, ALL THE DRIVEWAY CONFIGURATIONS WE HAVE ARE THE SAME THAT WAS PREVIOUS ON THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN. OKAY. SO THAT'S PART OF WHY THE TURN LANES IN BELTLINE ARE ALREADY IN AND WE'VE ALREADY COORDINATED BACK WITH THE CITY AS THE WESTMORELAND, UH, IMPROVEMENTS ARE ALREADY THERE ARE BEING PROPOSED IN OUR CONSTRUCTION. WE TOOK THOSE PLANS TO HELP COORDINATE AND MAKE SURE ACCESS AND, UH, ACCESS WORKS WITH WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AS PART OF WESTMORELAND AND AS WELL AS THE SIDEWALKS BEING PROPOSED. OKAY. SINCE THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT, UH, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT SITE PLAN? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, SOMEONE SHOPPING THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENTS, BUT DO WE HAVE ANY IDEAL, I I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FOR YOU SINCE YOU'RE MAINLY TRAFFIC, BUT DO WE, UM, KNOW THE TYPES OF COMMERCIAL WE'RE LOOKING AT? I HEARD RESTAURANTS BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS OR WAS IT SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS? WHAT TYPE OF COMMERCIAL ARE WE LOOKING AT? I'LL DEFER TO THE RETAIL GROUP. HI, UH, WAYLAND LAWN? NO, DALLAS, TEXAS. UM, THEY ARE, UH, RESTAURANTS WE'RE WORKING WITH, THEY'LL BE LIKE QUICK CASUAL. THIS A SIT DOWN DOESN'T, WOULD NOT WORK HERE JUST 'CAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING, LIKE A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT. MOST OF THOSE GUYS ARE 180 PARKING SPACES, SEE A CONCRETE. AND THIS IS MORE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD QUICK CASUAL, YOU KNOW, GRAB AND GO THE [01:35:01] UM, YOU KNOW, THE KAVAS AND THE PANDAS AND THE CHIPOTLE OF THE WORLD. GOTCHA. SO THERE'LL BE DINING IN, BUT THERE WILL BE A WAY TO PICK IT UP OUTSIDE THE WINDOW. SO I THINK BRUCE JUST MAYBE MISSPOKE ON THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER? YEAH, SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, BACK TO THAT SLIDE SEVEN FOR ME WITH THE DEVI, NOT FOR THE COMMERCIAL. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW ON THE DEVIATIONS. UM, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR BULK THE STRATEGY FOR BULK TRASH ELECTION AT THIS SITE OR YES, THERE ONE. HELLO, TAYLOR FIELD, DALLAS, TEXAS. I'M WITH THOMPSON REALTY, SO I'M, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS KNOW THERE ARE TWO DEVELOPERS HERE. SO ONE LANDOWNER AGAIN, WE'RE THE MULTIFAMILY, WAYLON'S, THE RETAIL. SO JUST TO MAKE THAT GOTCHA. UM, YEAH, THE TRASH WE'RE, WE'RE FLEXIBLE ON, SO IF YOU GUYS REALLY PREFER IT TO HAVE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS, WE CAN DO THAT. WE JUST THINK, LIKE BROGAN MENTIONED EARLIER, WE THINK ONE LOCATION IS NICER, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU USE THE VALET LIVING VALET TRASH, LIKE WE USE, IT'S, IT'S COLLECTED FIVE DAYS A WEEK TAKEN TO THE COMPACT OR THE COMPACTOR HAUL OFF JUST GETS HAULED OFF AS IT FILLS UP. SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHATEVER WORKS WITH THE CITY, IT'S WORTH THE CITY'S SANITATION DEPARTMENT AND WE WORK THAT OUT WITH THEM BASED UPON HOW OFTEN IT GETS FULL. AND I'VE ALSO HEARD YOUR COMMENTS ON THE TIA AND I GET IT. I MEAN, WE ARE HERE AS PARTNERS NOT WANTING TO CAUSE ANY KIND OF FUSS. SO IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH US WAITING FOR THE TIA RESULTS. DOES THAT FEEL RIGHT WITH YOU GUYS? I, IF THAT IS, SO I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A MINUTE AND TALK WITH MY TEAM ABOUT IT AND JUST KIND OF FIGURE OUT HOW LONG THAT'S GONNA BE SO I CAN TELL YOU, BUT WE WANT EVERYONE TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS. WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE. WE REALLY LOVED OUR FIRST PHASE. WE LOVED WORKING IN RED OAK DOWN THE STREET. WE LOVE THIS PART OF THE WORLD. WE THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL DOWN HERE. WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BRING NEW DEVELOPMENT TO THE AREA. SO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE CAN DO, WE WANNA TRY AND MAKE IT WORK. UM, BUT IF THAT IS THE FEELING, YOU GUYS WOULD RATHER WAIT. AGAIN, I THINK JACKIE SPOKE ON THIS, IT'S NOT REQUIRED RIGHT NOW, BUT WE WENT AHEAD AND WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON IT IN ANTICIPATION OF HOPEFULLY GETTING TO THE PLAT PROCESS WHERE IT IS REQUIRED FOR THAT. BUT WE UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE A FINAL ONE. SO YOU WANT ME TO TALK WITH MY TEAM AND I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT SEEM TO BE THE CONSENSUS. YEAH. THAT THERE IS SOME CONCERN WITH MAKING DECISIONS. I UNDERSTAND. WITHOUT HAVING THE FINAL, UH, DOCUMENTS. I UNDERSTAND WHEN WE WERE DOING THE FIRST PHASE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WORK ON WESTMORELAND WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE BEFORE THEN. I KNOW IT'S THAT TRAFFIC'S BEEN A, BEEN A PROBLEM FOR A WHILE AND PEOPLE WERE UPSET ABOUT IT THEN TOO, SO I GET IT. I GET IT. SO CAN I JUST TAKE A MINUTE, TALK WITH MY TEAM SURE. AND WHILE YOU TAKE A MINUTE OKAY. PD IF YOU CAN COME UP. OKAY. THANK YOU. M MD CAN YOU COME UP FOR, I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT THE, UH, WESTMORELAND WIDENING PROJECT CONSISTS OF? I HEARD THE, THE APPLICANT MENTION SIX LANES, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S FOUR LANES. SO CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT THE ACTUAL PROJECT IS? UM, YES SIR. YOU ARE CORRECT. UM, IT'LL BE FOUR LANE, TWO LANE IS DIRECTION, TWO LANE SOUTHBOUND, TWO LANE NORTHBOUND DIVIDED BY MEDIAN ISLAND LANDSCAPE AND TURNING LANES AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ARE ALSO SIDEWALK ON EAST SIDE AND STREET LIGHTING. IS WILL THAT BE BUILT TO THE FULL THOROUGHFARE PLAN? YES. STANDARD AT THAT POINT? YES. SO YOU COMMISSIONERS, UH, JUST FOR CORRECTION, THE WESTMORELAND PROJECT IS GOING TO BE FOUR LANES AS OPPOSED TO SIX COMMISSION? YES. AND EVEN THE, THE SLIDE THAT WAS, UH, ON THE MONITOR WHEN THE DEVELOPER REPRESENTATIVE MENTIONED THE WHAT, SIX LANE IT IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN THERE AS POLAND. I THINK THAT WAS JUST, UH, SO IT IS POLAND, RIGHT? AND UH, THE PROJECT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION OIL, OIL AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LARO? YEAH, QUICK FOLLOW UP IF THAT TIA REPORT COMES BACK AND IT SUGGESTS THAT THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL TURN LANE ON WESTMORELAND NEEDED, WHETHER IT'S NORTH OR SOUTHBOUND, UM, BECAUSE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, IS THAT GOING TO BE A PART OF THE CURRENT PROJECT? ARE THEY JUST GONNA ADD ON TO WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING OR DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE TO NOW GO AND I GUESS OKAY. TO BE HONEST. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S ALL FINALIZED BY THE TIME WE'RE DOING OUR, OUR PLAT Y? YES. SO, UM, PLAT AND THE CIVIL CONSTRUCTION PLAN, SO [01:40:01] ANY IMPROVEMENT THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO DO THAT, THEY WILL HAVE TO SHOW INDIA CIVIL CONSTRUCTION PLAN AND THEY WILL, IF THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAJORITY PORTION OR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT IMPROVEMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, A RIGHT HAND LENS, GENERALLY A DEVELOPER'S A HUNDRED PERCENT RESPONSIBILITY. SO THE DEVELOPER WILL HAVE TO BUILD THAT AND WE WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT IN THEIR CIVIL PLAN, WHICH IS WILL REVIEW AND WE WILL PERMIT AND THEN THEY WILL CONSTRUC VICE CHAIR. UH, QUICK QUESTION. WHEN WILL UH, WESTMORELAND HAVE FOUR LANES OR SIX LANES? WHEN WILL THAT BE COMPLETED? OH SURE. THE POLAND WESTMORELAND ROAD FROM BELTLINE TO PARKVILLE. APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE. LITTLE OVER ONE MILE. YEAH, IT'LL, IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED IN MARCH OF 2028. WE ARE WORKING EXTRA HARDER TO COMPLETE BEFORE CHRISTMAS OF 27. BUT THE, THE CURRENT SCHEDULE IS MARCH 28, FIRST QUARTER OF 28. WHEN WAS THE ORIGINAL COMPLETION DATE? MARCH 28. IS THE, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MARCH 28. YES, BUT WE MADE EXTRA PROGRESS IN RECENT MONTHS. AND IF THIS KEEP CONTINUING, IF WE DON'T ENCOUNTER ANY EXTRA HARDSHIP OR DIFFICULTIES, WE ARE CONFIDENT TO FINISH IT BY CHRISTMAS OF 27 AND, UH, WITH, WITH STAFF RECOMMENDING TO APPROVE THIS. MY CONCERN, MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS THAT IF WE KNOW THAT'S GONNA BE DONE IN MARCH, 2028, WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT IT'S A MAJOR CONCERN, MAJOR ISSUE FOR THE CITY. WE GOT THAT, BUT THEN WE'VE SINCE THEN APPROVED UH, 194 UNITS THAT THEY BUILT PRIOR AND THEN 700 FEET AWAY, 700 FEET AWAY. WE'RE ABOUT TO, THEY'RE BUILDING 235 MORE UNITS BEFORE THE COMPLETION OF THIS IS, WELL ACTUALLY WHAT COMP WHAT'S THE COMPLETION DATE OF THIS NEW PROJECT FOR THE MULTIFAMILY FIRST DELIVERY? IT'S FIRST DELIVERY IS GENERALLY PLEASE SPEAK TO MIKE. YES MA'AM. SORRY ABOUT THAT. FEEL FREE TO GET ME AGAIN. I'LL FORGET. UH, FIRST, FIRST DELIVERY IS ANYWHERE AROUND 14 MONTHS AND I'D SAY TOTAL DELIVERY IS 20 TO 2214 MONTHS. FROM WHAT DATE? TODAY? FROM CONSTRUCTION START DATE. OKAY. SO WHENEVER WE PULL BUILDING PERMIT, WE GET OUT THERE AND MOBILIZE. ROUGH ESTIMATE FIRST DELIVERY. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? ROUGH ESTIMATE IF EVERYTHING GOES ACCORDING TO YOUR CURRENT PLAN? TWO MONTHS? YEAH, SO RIGHT NOW, SAY WE GET, YOU KNOW, WE GET APPROVED THIS YEAR, WE PROBABLY HAVE SIX, EIGHT MONTHS OF PLANS TO WORK. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER ARCHITECTURAL MECHANICAL ENGINEERING, PLUMBING PLANS. WE GOTTA GET THEM IN. HAVE YOU GUYS REVIEW 'EM OR THE CITY REVIEW GET BACK TO US. WE PROBABLY ARE NOT. BEST CASE SCENARIO IS THIS IS PROBABLY, UH, YOU KNOW, BEGINNING OF Q2 START NEXT YEAR. SO I'D SAY 20 TO 24 MONTHS FROM MARCH OF 27 IS WHEN WE'LL, WHEN WE'LL BE DONE. OKAY, THANK YOU. I I THINK, UH, IS LOOKING FOR THE INFORMATION, THE CO THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FORM. ANY DEVELOPMENT OR ANY PIECE OF THE DEVELOPMENT ON THIS TRACK WOULD BE ACTUALLY AFTER OUR ROADWAY COMPLETION, INCLUDING TCO TOO AS WELL. CORRECT. COS COME AT THE END OF A, I MEAN END OF A PROJECT, TCO CAN COME WAY EARLIER THAN THAT ON A PROJECT. UH, THERE IS NO TCO IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCE. WE ONLY DO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. THEY ARE? YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I I, I, I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE MORE THOUGHT TO THAT SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE MULTIFAMILY HASN'T BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR YET. WHAT GENERALLY, AND FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE TIA ACCOUNTS FOR ALL APPROVED DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE FOR THE RETAIL USE THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE SITE, WHICH MR. MILLSAP SPOKE TO EARLIER. THE RETAIL USE HAS A MUCH HIGHER TRAFFIC COUNT THAN MULTI. SO IN REALISTIC TERMS, THE MULTIFAMILY SHOULD HAVE A REDUCED IMPACT ON THE ROAD THAN WHAT IS ALREADY APPROVED FOR THE CURRENT IMPROVEMENTS. BUT ANYTHING CAUSED BY MULTI WE WILL PAY FOR. YES. UM, WE WANT YOU GUYS TO BE HAPPY. SO, WE'LL, WE, WE CAN DELAY, WE CAN FINISH THE TIA AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU IF THAT WOULD HELP OUT. THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANOTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTIONS THOUGH, BECAUSE THESE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS AND WE DON'T ALWAYS GET REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS. SO I LIKE YOUR [01:45:01] QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. FOR STAFF. WELL, LET'S FINISH THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU, SIR. SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN. STEPH, DID WE HAVE, UM, ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS CASE? WE DID HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL, UM, THE COMMENT CARD IS WITH YOU. OH, THAT WAS MR. DAHLSTROM. OH, OKAY. GO AHEAD. NONE FURTHER. SO SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE, UM, AT THIS TIME IT IS, WHAT TIME IS IT? 7:45 PM AND WE WILL YOU STILL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR FOR THE APPLICANT? NO. EXCUSE ME. CAN MS. JORDAN APPROACH, WE HAVE A QUESTION OR, OR OUR CITY ATTORNEY. IF WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE DELAY ACTION, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM CITIZENS IF THEY COME TO THE NEXT SCHEDULED. SO IF YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. IF YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEY'LL HAVE TO RE RE-NOTICE AND IT'LL BE AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE SHOULD LEAVE IT OPEN OR WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? YOU'RE LEAVING IT OPEN TO A DATE UNCERTAIN. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING? I'M NOT SURE YET. MS. JORDAN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? I GUESS HER, OH, OKAY. SORRY. HER MIC WAS ON. SO, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF WOULD BE IF YOU ARE WANTING TO SEE THIS CASE AT A LATER, LATER DATE, IS TO DISCLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IT WILL RENO ONCE THE APPLICANT HAS EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE REQUESTING. IF YOU DO CHOOSE THAT ROUTE TOGETHER. OKAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT, AT THIS TIME IT IS 7:47 PM AND WE WILL ARE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UM, COMMISSION, I JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM EACH ONE OF YOU ON COMMENTS AND CONCERNS AND COMMENTS, UM, BEFORE WE DELAY ON THIS CASE. SO IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE BRINGING BACK FOR US TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. COMMISSIONER, THIS IS IN GENERAL, YES. DESOTA IS A 12 SQUARE MILE LANDLOCKED CITY. WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH OUR PROPERTY THAT WE DO HAVE LEFT. WHAT WE NEED TO REALIZE, AND THIS IS KIND OF DIRECTED AT STAFF AND ENGINEERING DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITIES AROUND US, AFFECT WHAT HAPPENS IN DESOTA JUST LIKE THAT 300 HOUSES SOUTH ON WESTMORELAND THAT'S GOING IN GLEN HEIGHTS, THAT AFFECTS TRAFFIC THIS DIRECTION ALSO WESTBOUND AND EASTBOUND. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING, LET'S JUST DON'T STOP AT THE CITY LIMITS, LET'S LOOK A LITTLE FURTHER OUT SO THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ANGST AND STUFF THAT COULD BE GENERATED BY, BY NOT KNOWING THE WHOLE PICTURE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND US. AND I MERELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS BODY IS REPRESENTING OUR COMMUNITY. WE, WE WILL WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE EVERYTHING INTO CONSIDERATION. IF IT'S A GOOD PROJECT, IT'S A GOOD PROJECT. IF WE NEED IT, WE NEED IT. IF IT MEETS THE COMP PLAN, IT MEETS IT, BUT IT'S STILL, WE HAVE TO GIVE OUR RESIDENTS THE KIND OF ASSURANCE THAT WE TOOK ALL OF THIS INTO CONSIDERATION. THAT'S WHAT I WANNA SEE HAPPEN. LAST COMMISSIONER ALEXIS, NOTHING FURTHER. ALL MY UH, COMMENTS ARE ON RECORD. COMMISSIONER EDWARDS, NO FURTHER COMMENTS. MADAM CHAIR. COMMISSIONER LARO? I AGREE. COMMISSIONER JONES, NO FURTHER COMMENT. VICE CHAIR, NO FURTHER COMMENTS AND I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS EITHER. ALL RIGHT. STAFF, YOU HAVE ANYTHING? YOU GOOD? NO FURTHER COMMENTS. THANKS, I APPRECIATE YOU. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS AGENDA ITEM F CHAIR. I'M SORRY. YES, I'M SORRY. MOTION. YES. SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONERS THERE. MOTION I MOTION TO DENY AS PRESENTED. SECOND OR DELAY? [01:50:01] DELAY AS PRESENTED. , THE CAME IN TOO FAST. WE HAVE A MOTION TO DELAY. I SECOND TO DELAY . ALRIGHT. KNOW YOU WERE GONNA GET A SECOND ON THAT. DENIAL CAME PASS. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A, A MOTION TO DELAY. UM, AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF DELAYING THIS CASE, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, [F. REGULAR AGENDA] UH, IS OUR REGULAR AGENDA, F1, DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION. AND REGARDING AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION, A PA MEMBERSHIP, BENEFITS MEMBERSHIP ACCOUNT ACCESS, AND THE LOGIN PROCESS FOR ASSESSING A PA RESOURCES AND SERVICES, MS. JORDAN. ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING. AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. UM, SO THIS PRESENTATION IS JUST TO DISCUSS THE, UM, THE BENEFITS OF BEING A MEMBER, WHICH YOU ALL ARE AS OF MARCH OF THIS YEAR. AND, UM, THE UPCOMING A PA TEXAS CONFERENCE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, KIND OF GAUGE TO SEE WHO'S, WHICH OF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN, BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, POTENTIALLY FUND THAT TRIP. WELL, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A TRIP, IT'S A UNNERVING. SO, UM, THIS IS A BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF WHAT WE PLAN TO GO OVER THIS EVENING. BUT, UM, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE PRESENTATION, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. HAS ANYBODY HAD ANY ISSUES LOGGING IN? HAS EVERYBODY TRIED TO LOG IN? ANYONE TRY TO LOG IN? ? OKAY, SO, UM, WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. I WAS GONNA SKIP THROUGH A FEW SLIDES. ALL RIGHT, SO, OH, OKAY. SO, UH, SLIDE THREE. IT'S TITLED ACTIVATE YOUR AP ACCOUNT. SO, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO DO IS TO, UM, LOG INTO YOUR CITY OF DESOTO EMAIL, AND THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN A PA MEMBERSHIP CONFIRMATION EMAIL IN MARCH OF THIS PAST YEAR. SO, UM, IF YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT, THEN WE WILL GIVE YOU FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO GET LOGGED IN. SO IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THE EMAIL, OF COURSE, YOU'LL CLICK ON THAT LINK IN THE EMAIL. IF IT'S NO LONGER AVAILABLE, IT SHOULD TAKE YOU TO THE WEBSITE STILL. AND THEN, UM, YOU'LL JUST FOLLOW THE, THE LOGIN INSTRUCTIONS. PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY. AND THEN FROM THERE, YOU'LL CREATE AND SAVE YOUR CREDENTIALS. THAT'LL BE THE FIRST THING THAT YOU, UM, ARE REQUIRED TO DO BEFORE YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS TO ANY OF THE DASHBOARDS. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THIS IS THE CONTACT INFORMATION. IN THE EVENT THAT, UM, THE A PA LOGIN FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT'S JUST NOT WORKING FOR YOU, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO THE A PA CUSTOMER SERVICE, UM, DIRECTLY IN THE EVENT THAT YOU'RE HAVING ANY ISSUES WITH LOGIN, UM, FOR YOUR CITY, UH, YOUR CITY OF DESOTO EMAIL, YOU CAN EITHER REACH OUT TO THE IT HELP DE HELP DESK OR MYSELF OR MS. JACKIE DIRECTLY. ALL RIGHT, SO HERE ARE SOME SNIPPETS OF THE A PA WEBSITE. SO THIS FIRST SNIPPET TO THE FAR LEFT IS THE FIRST THING YOU'LL SEE AFTER YOU'VE LOGGED IN AND IT'LL SHOW YOU, UM, IT'LL GIVE YOU OPTIONS AND IT HAS DROPDOWN BUTTONS THAT YOU CAN KIND OF MANEUVER THROUGH. WE DO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THE WEBSITE BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF, UM, RELEVANT PLANNING RESOURCES, UM, LIKE STATE BILLS, HOUSE BILLS, AND THINGS OF THAT SORT THAT ARE RELEVANT TO YOU ALL. AND THEN OVER TO THE, UM, THE FAR RIGHT OF THE SCREEN IS THE KNOWLEDGE CENTER. AND, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE CENTER THAT YOU'LL GO TO TO ACCESS ARTICLES AND, UH, STATE BILLS AND UPDATES THAT ARE ALL RELATED TO PLANNING. OKAY. AND TO THE FAR RIGHT, YOU HAVE THE, UM, POLICY AND ADVOCACY CHECK, UH, SECTION. UM, IT'S RELEVANT TO OUR, UM, OUR COMMISSION HERE SPECIFICALLY JUST BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE ADVOCATES FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO WHEN IT COMES TO ALL THINGS PLANNING AND ZONING RELATED. AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ALL RESOURCES THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO YOUR, UM, YOUR, UH, YOUR COMMISSION AND YOUR, UM, YOUR COMMISSION SEAT. AND THEN OVER TO THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN IS THE COMMUNITY, AND IT JUST SHOWS YOU, UM, PLANNING, EDUCATION AND, UM, DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO GET INVOLVED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND ON THIS WEBSITE, ONCE YOU GUYS DO LOG IN, YOU'LL SEE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT A P TEXAS THAT'S HAPPENING OCTOBER 14TH THROUGH THE 16TH. OKAY. AND A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR, UM, YOUR MEMBERSHIP. IT IS GOOD FOR ONE YEAR. IT'S AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP AND, UH, STAFF PLANNING AND ZONING DIVISION DOES FUND THAT. SO, UM, WE WILL RENEW, UM, MARCH OF NEXT YEAR. SO YOU'LL ALSO GET AN UPDATE CONFIRMING THAT YOUR MEMBERSHIP HAS BEEN RENEWED. NEXT SLIDE IS WHY USE THE A PA MEMBERSHIP? WELL, AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE MORE RELEVANT MEMBERSHIPS FOR YOU ALL. IT'S MAN OR AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION, IT'S IN THE NAME. UM, THERE'S A, A LOT OF TRUSTED RESOURCES RELATED [01:55:01] TO PLANNING AND, UM, SPECIFICALLY PLANNING IN TEXAS AS WELL. IF YOU DO GET TO THAT SECTION IN THE WEBSITE, AND I CAN SEND YOU GUYS, UM, DIRECT LINKS THAT ME AND STAFF USE REGULARLY. THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMISSION TRAINING OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF DESOTO. IF EVER THERE IS ANY, UM, FEE ASSIGNED TO THAT, DEPENDING ON, UM, HOW MANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS ARE WANTING TO GO, WE CAN, UM, STAFF CAN LOOK INTO FUNDING THAT AS WELL. AND THEN ALSO IT HELPS WITH, UM, JUST OVERALL BETTER DECISION MAKING. UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY ME AND MY STAFF UTILIZE THIS WEBSITE, UH, FREQUENTLY, JUST BECAUSE IT HELPS US TO CON CONSIDER THINGS, UM, BY TAKING A STEP BACK AND LOOKING AT THE BIGGEST PICTURE, WHICH IS, OF COURSE, THE, UM, THE CONTINUITY IN THE, UM, BEAUTIFICATION OF THE CITY OF DESOTO. ALL RIGHT. AND IN ADDITION TO THE THINGS THAT I, UM, PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, THERE'S ALSO A TRAINING THAT SUPPORTS THE COMMISSION WORK. AGAIN, IF YOU ALL ARE EVER INTERESTED, JUST COMMUNICATE THAT TO MYSELF OR JACKIE AND WE'LL, UM, DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO GET YOU GUYS SIGNED UP FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. AND, UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE A PA TEXAS, WHICH IS HAPPENING IN IRVING, TEXAS THIS YEAR. SO OCTOBER 14TH THROUGH THE 16TH. OVER TO THE FAR RIGHT OF THE SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE, UM, THE FEES AND DEPENDING ON WHO'S INTERESTED IN WHAT KIND OF TIME AND AVAILABILITY YOU ALL HAVE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEND AT LEAST, UM, HALF OF THE COMMISSION TO THIS, UM, THIS CONFERENCE THIS YEAR. SO I WILL BE SENDING OUT AN EMAIL TO, UM, JUST GET A, I GUESS A TO GAUGE WHO'S INTERESTED. AND THEN FROM THERE, WE'LL, UM, WE'LL BE IN COMMUNICATION WITH YOU ALL AS FAR AS REGISTRATION AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. SO THERE'S DIFFERENT OPTIONS. IF YOU ARE A, UM, ELECTED APPOINTED OFFICIAL, THAT'S US, OR THAT'S YOU ALL UP TOP HERE. UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT A LOT OF YOU ALL ARE STILL, UM, FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES IN YOUR, UM, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONS. AND SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND ONE DAY AS WELL AND SESSIONS TO WATCH FOR. SO, FULL TRANSPARENCY, THE SESSIONS FOR THE UPCOMING A PA TEXAS CONVENTION HAVE NOT BEEN, UH, PUBLICIZED JUST YET, BUT THE, UM, SESSIONS THAT WE'VE LISTED WERE, UM, PREVIOUSLY, UM, PREVIOUSLY HELD AT THE LAST CONVENTION. SO FIRST ONE BEING FUNDAMENTALS OF PLANNING AND ZONING. NEXT ONE, WE HAVE PLANNING LAW, ETHICS DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, AND THEN THE PLANNING AND ZONING, UM, SLASH ZONING BOARD RESPONSIBILITIES. ALL RIGHT, AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. SO IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. UM, THANK YOU STAFF. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. UM, THIS, I, I APPRECIATE STAFF FOR FOLLOWING THROUGH ON GETTING US SIGNED UP FOR MEMBERSHIP IN OUR ROLES AS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. I CURRENTLY SERVE AS MEMBERSHIP CHAIR ON THE TEXAS CHAPTER OF A PA. UM, I DO SEE THIS AS A HUGE BENEFIT, UNDERSTANDING THE FUNDAMENTALS OF PLANNING AND REALLY SEEING WHAT THE BEST PRACTICES ARE OUT THERE AS WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND JUST BEING EXPOSED TO WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING, AND, UM, UNDERSTANDING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BEHIND IT. UH, I THINK THIS WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THE CONFERENCE BEING RIGHT HERE IN OUR BACKYARD IN IRVING. SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, IF YOU CAN MAKE, UM, PLANS TO ATTEND AT LEAST ONE DAY, JUST TO KIND OF GO GET IMMERSED IN WHAT THE PLANNING STAFF IS DOING ACROSS, UH, THE STATE. AND IF YOU CANNOT, UH, WE'RE LUCKY BECAUSE THE NATIONAL PLANNING CONFERENCE IS ALSO HELD IN TEXAS THIS YEAR. IT'S DOWN THE STREET IN HOUSTON. UM, BUT IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH THAT, UH, HOPEFULLY AT LEAST ONE OR TWO OF US CAN ATTEND THAT AS WELL. BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU STAFF. I THINK THIS IS, IS A BENEFIT THAT THE CITY WOULD BE REWARDED FOR AS WE START TO LEARN, UH, AND BE, YOU KNOW, BE EXPOSED TO MORE OF THE PLANNING, UM, THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON AROUND OUR STATE. YES, MA'AM. CHAIR BROOKS. UM, A QUICK QUESTION JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY. I, I SAID I'M GONNA SEND OUT AN EMAIL AND I AM, BUT, UM, JUST WANTING TO KNOW, UM, IF YOU GUYS COULD TELL ME BY HAND WHO'S INTERESTED IN ATTENDING THIS CONVENTION. OKAY, THANK Y'ALL. THANKS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT, WANT, UH, AN OFFICIAL EMAIL INDICATING THEIR INTEREST IN ATTENDING? YES. FULL SESSION OR ONE DAY? MM-HMM . OKAY. THAT'LL BE SENT OUT TOMORROW. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . NEXT ITEM ON [G. CITY COUNCIL LIAISON ANNOUNCEMENTS & UPDATES] THE AGENDA IS CITY COUNCIL LIAISON ANNOUNCEMENTS AND UPDATES. I SEE OUR COUNCILWOMAN CRYSTAL CHISHOLM HERE. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. YOU ALL HAVE DONE A MAGNIFICENT JOB THIS EVENING. I JUST WANNA GIVE Y'ALL KUDOS FOR ALL OF YOUR DUE DILIGENCE THAT YOU DID TODAY. UM, I DO WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE IN, IN OUR SUMMER RETREAT THIS WEEKEND, STARTING ON THURSDAY NIGHT. UM, [02:00:01] WE WILL BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN. SO, UH, , THE AGENDA IS POSTED AT, I BELIEVE THE FESTIVITIES KICK OFF ON THURSDAY NIGHT AT 5 45 IN THE COLONY. SO IF YOU HAVE TIME TO MAKE IT OUT, I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOUR FACES THERE. WE'LL BE GOING OVER OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AS WELL AS A, A PLETHORA OF OTHER ITEMS TO INCLUDE COUNCIL INITIATIVES TOO. SO IF YOU CAN MAKE THAT OUT, WE'LL BE THERE TILL SATURDAY AFTERNOON. UM, AND I ALSO LOVE THAT THAT A PA, UM, UM, MS. JORDAN, UH, MS. JACQUELINE, IF Y'ALL RUN INTO ANY ISSUES FINANCIALLY, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME BECAUSE I, I, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET ALL THOSE THAT WANNA GO, CAN GO, YEAH, WE FEEL THE SAME. YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO FIND THAT MONEY SOMEWHERE. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. SO Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT EVENING. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM [H. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST Discussion will be limited to the following pursuant to Gov't Code 551.0415: (1) Expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; (2) information regarding holiday schedules; (3) a recognition of an individual; (4) a reminder about an upcoming Planning & Zoning events; (5) announcements involving an imminent threat tithe public health and safety.] ON THE AGENDA, AGENDA ITEM H ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST DISCUSSIONS WILL BE LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE 5 51 0.0415, EXPRESSIONS OF THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, OR CONDOLENCE INFORMATION REGARDING HOLIDAY SCHEDULES, A RECOGNITION OF AN INDIVIDUAL, A REMINDER ABOUT AN UPCOMING PLANNING AND ZONING EVENT OR ANNOUNCEMENTS INVOLVING AN IMMINENT THREAT TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. MS. PATEL. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, CHAIR COMMISSIONERS. UH, I ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM FOR YOU ALL. THAT IS FROM PARKS AND REC DIVISION AND IT'S ABOUT TEEN COUNCIL. WE HAVE OUR DISORDER TEEN COUNCIL, AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, FOR YOUNG LEADERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING INVOLVED WITH THE SHAPING OF THE COMMUNITY AND CREATING A POSITIVE IM IMPACT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. WHO WOULD HAVE SOME IDEAS ON HOW TO BRING IN DIFFERENT PROGRAMS FOR THE YOUTH? SO WE HAVE TWO BOARDS FOR THEM. UH, ONE IS GENERAL BOARD AND ONE IS, UH, AN EXECUTIVE BOARD. IN THE GENERAL ONE, THEY CAN JUST ATTEND THE MEETINGS AND EVENTS AND, UH, THEY ALSO HAVE VOLUNTEERING OPPORTUNITIES. AND IN THE EXECUTIVE BOARD THEY HAVE THINGS LIKE, UH, THEY CAN HOLD POSITIONS LIKE PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT, TREASURER, ET CETERA. AND APART FROM THERE, THERE WOULD BE BENEFITS FOR THE THEM TO GET, TO GET A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY ADMIN ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS THEY CAN. ALSO, THIS CAN ALSO ADD TO THEIR COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS. SO THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR YOUTH OF DESO. SO IF YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, UH, TAKING APART IN THIS MEN PEACE SPREAD AWARD, WHAT AGES IS THIS FOR HIGH SCHOOL? UH, THERE WAS NO AGE LIMIT MENTIONED IN THIS ONE, BUT I CAN LOOK INTO IT AND GET BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. UM, I DO, I WAS FORWARDED A, AN APPLICATION FOR LEADERSHIP SOUTHWEST CLASS, SO I JUST WANNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW APPLICATIONS ARE BEING ACCEPTED. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN LEADERSHIP SOUTHWEST, UH, THROUGH THE EARLY APPLICATION DATES THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, AND REGULAR APPLICATION DATES THROUGH OCTOBER 30TH, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. EIGHTH THROUGH 12TH GRADE. OH, COMMISSIONER LARO JUST FOUND OUT IT'S EIGHTH THROUGH 12TH GRADE FOR THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT. FINAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA. IS ADJOURNMENT LOOKING FOR A MOTION? SO, SO MOVED. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? SAY GOODNIGHT. GOODNIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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