Aug 17, 2026 City Council Special Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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RACHEL PROCTOR AND I WANT TO WELCOME YOU ALL TO OUR SPECIAL MEETING THIS EVENING. IT IS MONDAY, AUGUST 7TH. IT IS 6 P.M. I'M GOING TO ASK OUR CITY SECRETARY TO GIVE US A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR RACHEL PROCTOR, MAYOR PRO TEM LETICIA HUGHES HERE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM KIM WATERS, COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BRIAN WESLEY, COUNCIL MEMBER.

DEBORAH NORTH, COUNCIL MEMBER. CRYSTAL CHISM HERE. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. FIRST, WE HAVE PRESENTATION OF ACCOMMODATIONS TO MAYOR PRO TEM LETICIA HUGHES AND COUNCIL MEMBER DEBORAH NORTH AND RECOGNITION OF EARNING THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL OFFICIAL DESIGNATION. I'M GOING TO ASK IF WE COULD JUST GO TO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. AND THEN ONCE COUNCIL MEMBER NORTH

[b. Presentation of Financial Report July 2026]

LAST YEAR. WAS TOTAL REVENUE AT THIS POINT WAS 85% AND THIS YEAR IS AT 65%. AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS WITH OUR ERP IMPLEMENTATION. THAT HAS BEEN CAUSING US SOME DIFFERENT TYPE OF INTERRUPTIONS WITH THE TIMING OF THE POSTING OF OUR BILLING, THE POSTING OF JULY BILLING IS NOT INCLUDED WITH THIS REPORT. SO THAT'S WHY THE REVENUE IS SHOWING LOW. THE REVENUE FOR WATER SALES AND METER SALES ARE ACTUALLY JUST THROUGH THE MONTH OF JUNE AS OF THE TIME OF THIS REPORT. SO WE SHOULD SEE THAT CATCHING UP PRETTY SOON. ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, WE'RE AT 83.8%, WHICH IS LOWER THAN THIS TIME LAST YEAR AT 87.1%. IN THE SANITATION FUND. WE ARE TRACKING ALONG WELL THERE. OUR MAJOR REVENUE SOURCE. THERE IS, OF COURSE, JUST OUR SANITATION FEES YEAR TO DATE. AS OF THE END OF JULY, WE WERE AT 4.9 MILLION. THAT PUTS US AT 71.3% COMPARED TO 83.3% LAST YEAR. THIS IS ALSO IN LINE WITH ERP IMPLEMENTATION.

SANITATION FEES ARE ALSO CHARGED ON THOSE WATER BILLS. WHEN THAT WHEN THOSE ADDITIONAL CYCLES POST, YOU'LL SEE THAT NUMBER INCREASE AS WELL. ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO WHERE WE WERE THIS TIME LAST YEAR AT 74.9%. MOVING INTO THE GOLF CLUB. FINANCIAL SUMMARY THESE ARE THE GOLF CLUB FINANCIALS THROUGH JUNE OF 2026. TOTAL BUDGETED REVENUE IS 2,936,607. THAT'S THESE TWO REVENUE CATEGORIES ADDED TOGETHER TOTAL REVENUES PLUS MISCELLANEOUS INCOME. THAT GIVES US 2,936,000 AND 607. IF YOU FOLLOW DOWN WITH THE

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THAT'S TOTAL REVENUE PLUS MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE ADDED. TOGETHER THEN YOU HAVE THE EXPENSES. IF YOU FOLLOW DOWN TO REVENUE OVER UNDER OUR REVENUE IS ACTUALLY UNDER 33,686. SO WE HAVE SOME ROOM TO CATCH UP HERE BETWEEN WHERE WE ARE NOW AND WHERE WE'D LIKE TO END. OF COURSE, AGAIN, THESE FINANCIALS ARE BASED ON A CALENDAR YEAR. SO WE HAVE A WE HAVE UNTIL THE END OF DECEMBER TO CATCH UP THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE IN REVENUE OVER AND UNDER FOR THE YEAR TO DATE, ACTUAL AND PRIOR YEAR, IT'S NOT TOO FAR APART. YOU'RE MISSING ABOUT $14,000 BETWEEN THE REVENUE UNDER A 33,000 AND THE REVENUE UNDER OF 19,000. SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS MONTH'S REPORT. WE STILL HAVE SUMMER MONTHS PROGRAMING AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO GET THROUGH THE EXACT CATEGORIES THAT I WAS KIND OF LOOKING AT WITH THIS CYCLE WAS THE LOWER FEES THAT WE'VE COLLECTED FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGE. THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN CATEGORIES. THERE ARE GOING TO BE YOUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND YOUR JUST REGULAR GREEN FEES FROM PURCHASES OF GAMES. SO THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT DOWN COMPARED TO THIS TIME LAST YEAR. SO AGAIN, WE HAVE ABOUT A $14,000 GAP BETWEEN NOW AND THIS TIME LAST YEAR, BUT STILL PLENTY OF ROOM TO CATCH UP BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. ALSO IN YOUR REPORT, YOU HAVE A HUB REPORT, A CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND REPORT AND A PROPERTY TAX COLLECTIONS REPORT. WE HAVE ALSO GONE THROUGH AND COUNCILWOMAN CHISHOLM MADE A GREAT SUGGESTION ON THE GOLF CLUB SUMMARY REVENUE. YOU'LL SEE ON THE DETAIL REPORT THAT'S ONLINE. THEY HAVE BEEN COLOR CODED. SO THE REVENUE THE REVENUE ROLL UP. WHAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THESE TOTAL NUMBERS HAVE BEEN COLOR CODED AS WELL AS THE EXPENSES HAVE BEEN COLOR CODED. SO YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE REPORT, FOLLOW THROUGH VERY EASILY, AND TELL WHAT REVENUE IS RELATED TO TOTAL REVENUE, WHAT EXPENDITURES IS RELATED TO TOTAL EXPENDITURES. SO WE'VE INCLUDED THAT AS WELL. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THANK YOU, MISS SUTTON. I DO SEE SOME LIGHTS. COUNCIL. I'M NOT SURE WHO HAD THEIR LIGHT ON FIRST COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM. THANK YOU. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE REVENUE THE GENERAL FUND PAGE AGAIN, PLEASE? OKAY. SO I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING A FEW AREAS THAT HAVE REACHED THEIR ACTUAL YEAR TO DATE, PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGET. AND JUST FOR FURTHER CONVERSATION, SWRCC REGIONAL DISPATCH. I THINK THIS IS LIKE FIVE YEARS, THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN THEM GO OVER BUDGET FROM EXPENDITURES PERSPECTIVE. SO I WAS TRYING TO SEE IF THERE WAS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. AND THEN THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE SAYS THAT WE ARE ALSO HIT THAT BUDGET. SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE EXHAUSTED FUNDS FROM OUR ECONOMIC INCENTIVE AND THAT IF THERE ARE ANY MORE NEGOTIATIONS, THEY WILL BE AFTER SEPTEMBER BEFORE THEY GO THROUGH. YEAH. SO LET ME GET BACK WITH YOU ON THE I DON'T THINK OUR SWRCC DIRECTOR ON THE SWRCC. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THAT DIFFERENCE IS THERE. AND THEN YOU ASKED ABOUT THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE AS WELL. SO THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ECONOMIC INCENTIVE PAYMENTS THAT WERE NOT BILLED IN LAST YEAR. AND SO THOSE HAVE COME UP THIS YEAR. WE HAD TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT FAILED TO BILL US FOR THEIR PROPERTY TAX INCENTIVE IN THEIR SALES TAX INCENTIVE. SO THEY'VE SENT THAT THROUGH NOW. SO WE DO OWE THAT.

SO WE'RE KIND OF CATCHING UP ON THAT FROM LAST YEAR. WE DON'T HAVE A CAP LIKE YOU HAVE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DAYS BECAUSE WHEN YOU GUYS CLOSE A FISCAL YEAR, THAT FISCAL YEAR IS CLOSED. RIGHT? SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, THEY SUBMITTED THIS AFTER THE FISCAL YEAR HAD ENDED, AND WE'RE PAYING NOW FOR SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE LAST YEAR THEY DID. SO HOW FROM A ACCOUNTING PERSPECTIVE, HOW DO YOU RIGHTSIZE THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S AN UNEXPECTED FORK THAT WASN'T FORECASTED. RIGHT? RIGHT. ONCE THE FISCAL YEAR ENDS, IT'S ENDED. WE THERE'S YOU CAN'T OPEN IT. YOU CAN'T GO MAKE ANY REVISIONS TO IT. SO THOSE

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CAN YOU GIVE A TIMELINE OF WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE KIND OF AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN SAY, THIS IS IT? SO I DON'T WANT TO OVERPROMISE AND UNDER-DELIVER? WHAT I WILL SAY IS THIS WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO DEVELOP A CADENCE TO OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WITH MISS SUTTON'S TEAM, YOU KNOW, THE WE NEED TO REALLY GET THAT BILLING CAUGHT UP BEFORE THE, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, THERE MIGHT BE. AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR MISS HERE. THERE MIGHT HAVE TO BE SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME BACK POSTING OF MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS TO GIVE SOME LENIENCY AND SOME GRACE IN THAT REGARD. I WILL SAY THIS, IF YOU COULD PROBABLY GIVE ME TO THE NEXT FINANCIAL REPORT, I WILL PROBABLY HAVE A MORE BETTER

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IT'S LIKELY JUST STILL GOING TO BE A MONTH BEHIND. SO ON THE NEXT REPORT IT WILL BE THROUGH JULY. AS FAR AS WATER SEWER REVENUE, FOR THE PURPOSES OF REPORTING, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT THE ACTUAL REPORT CAN SAY IT DOES NOT INCLUDE JULY? SURE. OKAY. AND THEN AS FAR AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS RIGHT ON WHEN WE WERE TALKING IN TERMS OF WE'RE AT 100%, BUT WE STILL HAVE TWO MONTHS LEFT, SO NOTHING ELSE IS COMING, RIGHT? WELL, WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TO ENSURE THAT BILLING IS RECEIVED TIMELY, BECAUSE WHILE I CANNOT PAY IT UNTIL THEY BILL IT, WHAT WE CAN DO IS KEEP CLOSER COMMUNICATION AND LOOK AT OUR RECORDS AND NOTE KNOWING OUR THREE AGREEMENTS IN DEPTH AND SAYING, WELL, HEY, YOU KNOW, I HAVE AN AGENCY HERE THAT I KNOW I HAVEN'T PAID SALES TAX TO THIS YEAR. LET ME REACH OUT TO MY CONTACT AND SEE IF I CAN GET THAT BILLING GOING. SO THAT'S WHAT GUS AND I WILL BE WORKING CLOSER ON THAT MOVING FORWARD. OKAY. AND THEN SSWR YOU KNOW THAT DEPARTMENT, THAT IS A I THINK IT'S 105 PERCENTAGE OVER OR 5% OVER. WE STILL HAVE TWO MONTHS LEFT, YOU KNOW, AUGUST AND THEN SEPTEMBER. SURE DO. ARE THEY I MEAN, LET ME SO COUNCIL I DON'T I'M NOT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT WE CAN VERIFY. BUT I KNOW THAT S WCC DID SOME HAD TO DO SOME SPIN DOWN ON SOME GRANT FUNDS, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT, THAT NUMBER IS INFLATED BECAUSE IT'S GRANT FUNDS AND NOT JUST NOT JUST GENERAL FUND FOR EXPENDITURES. FOR EXPENDITURES.

YES. OKAY. OKAY. YES, YES. AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANTED TO ASK WAS ABOUT THE THORN TREE FINANCIALS. THANK YOU FOR THE COLOR CODING. IT DID MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER. HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO ASK WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE'RE THINKING IN TERMS OF THIS, THIS REPORT, IS THERE A LEGEND THAT MAYBE WE CAN ADD, YOU KNOW, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE PEOPLE A SENSE OF WHY? BECAUSE JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO WHEN YOU SAID REVENUE PLUS THE MISCELLANEOUS INCOME MAKES THE MAKES THE TOP NUMBER, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T ACTUALLY, I WAS REALLY OFF. I WAS WAY LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHEN YOU SAID THAT YOU SAID REVENUE PLUS IS THE TOP NUMBER. SURE. SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR A LEGEND FOR, FOR THAT JUST SO THAT IT CAN BE A LITTLE CLEARER? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN WE'RE STILL IN JUNE, SO WE DIDN'T GET JULY CORRECT. ON THE GOLF COURSE FINANCIALS. YOU WILL SEE THAT THAT ONE IS NORMALLY A MONTH BEHIND WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE REPORTING AT THE CITY. OKAY. AND I KNOW THAT WE ARE AT SIX MONTHS. SO THERE SHOULD BE 50%. AND SINCE WE'RE UNDER 50% ON MOST OF THE NUMBERS HERE, IS THERE A PLAN IN PLACE OR HAVE SOMETHING BE PUT IN PLACE TO TRY TO GET ABOVE THAT 50%? I WILL ANSWER THAT ONE. THAT'LL BE SOMETHING WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL REACH OUT TO, TO THE MANAGERS OF THE GOLF COURSE TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE. AND THEN I GOT TO GO BACK AND LOOK HISTORICALLY TO SEE I KNOW WE'VE SHARED.

DIRECTOR SUTTON HAS SHARED THAT HISTORICALLY, WE'VE KIND OF TRAILED WITH RESPECT TO GOLF COURSE REVENUE UNTIL THROUGH UNTIL WE FINISH OUT THE SUMMER MONTHS. SO I JUST WANT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT REALLY LOOKED, BUT ALSO REACH OUT TO THE GOLF COURSE, THE MANAGERS TO SEE EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, AS FAR AS, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE PRIOR YEAR HERE, PRIOR YEAR FOR JUNE IS WHAT THIS IS SAYING. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOR THE PURPOSES OF MAYBE EVEN THE COMMUNITY TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THEIR PRIOR YEARS PER, PER PRIOR MONTH? SO LIKE FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, WHAT THEIR PRIOR YEAR WAS, SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF TRACK ALONG TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY. I'M JUST ASKING, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY WE CAN DO THAT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? SO IF I IF I GAVE A REPORT OF LAST YEAR OF FINANCIAL OF LAST YEAR, IT WOULD SHOW ME 12 MONTHS AND WHAT THOSE 12 MONTHS DID. OKAY. SO YOU WANT MORE DETAIL BY MONTH BY MONTH? YES. CAN WE YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT. ALL RIGHT, I APPRECIATE THAT I YIELD BACK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCIL. I THINK WE ALL KIND OF HAD SIMILAR QUESTIONS. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCILMAN WESLEY COUNCILMEMBER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR PRO TEM ANY QUESTIONS? I DID HAVE A THOUGHT ABOUT THE AVERAGE BILLING, AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT AS IT WAS

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SO THERE IS THAT OPTION TO DO THAT. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL, IF THERE ARE NO.

[a. Presentation of Mayoral Commendations to Mayor Pro Tem Letitia Hughes and Councilmember Debrah North in recognition of earning the Texas Municipal League Certified Municipal Official (CMO) designation]

WE'LL JUST REDO IT. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. I HAVE A VERY SPECIAL PRIVILEGE OF RECOGNIZING TWO OF MY COLLEAGUES. I GUESS THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE ME LOOK TO MY RIGHT AND MY LEFT LIKE THAT FOR AN ACHIEVEMENT THAT SPEAKS NOT ONLY TO THEIR PROFESSIONAL GROWTH, BUT TO THEIR GENUINE COMMITMENT TO SERVING THE CITY OF DE SOTO. I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING WITH MAYOR PRO TEM LETICIA HUGHES AND COUNCIL MEMBER DEBORAH NORTH, AND EACH OF THEM HAVE EARNED THE CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL OFFICIAL OR THE CMO THROUGH THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE. WE CAN CLAP RIGHT THERE. AND JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR DESIGNATION AND WHY WE FELT IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR US TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM IN THIS WAY ON THIS EVENING. THIS DESIGNATION REPRESENTS A VERY SIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENT, AND TO

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THESE THINGS CAN BE ANYTHING FROM THE TOPICS OF ETHICS TO FINANCE, TO GOVERNANCE, TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO, PEOPLE FORGET THAT WE'RE NOT FULL TIME LEGISLATORS. WE HAVE JOBS, WE RUN BUSINESSES, WE HAVE FAMILIES, WE HAVE LOTS OF OTHER THINGS. AND SO FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO FIT IN THIS TYPE OF TRAINING TO EARN THIS DESIGNATION SPEAKS VOLUMES. AND SO THE COMMITMENT DOES NOT STOP ONCE THEY EARN THIS CERTIFICATION. IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN IT, THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE THEIR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT BY COMPLETING 15 ADDITIONAL HOURS OF CONTINUING EDUCATION EACH YEAR TO MAINTAIN THIS DESIGNATION. SO TONIGHT, I HAVE MAYOR ACCOMMODATIONS FOR YOU, AND I'M GOING TO READ THAT FOR YOUR HEARING TONIGHT. AND THIS IS A COMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE CITY DE SOTO CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF DE SOTO. WE CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR RECENT CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL OFFICIAL DESIGNATION FOR CONTINUING EDUCATION FROM THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE INSTITUTE. THIS RECOGNITION IS AWARDED TO INDIVIDUALS WHO COMPLETED 60 OR MORE CONTINUING EDUCATION UNITS, AND YOU ARE ONE OF FEW SELECT INDIVIDUALS WHO EARNED THIS CERTIFICATION STATEWIDE DURING THE 2025 2026 CALENDAR YEAR. THE DE SOTO CITY COUNCIL COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND COMMITMENT TO CONTINUING EDUCATION AND ENHANCING YOUR LEADERSHIP AS A TEXAS ELECTED OFFICIAL. CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS WELL-DESERVED ACCOMPLISHMENT AND WE WISH YOU CONTINUED SUCCESS IN ALL YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS. ON BEHALF OF THE DE SOTO CITY COUNCIL SIGNED MAYOR RACHEL PROCTOR, WE CAN CLAP AGAIN FOR THEM TO CELEBRATE THIS TREMENDOUS. 30S. COME ON, MAYOR PRO TEM. GOOD EVENING, DE SOTO. I FIRST WANT TO GIVE HONOR TO GOD BECAUSE WHAT I DO, HE ALLOWS IT. THIS IS THE RESULT OF STICK TO ITIVENESS, OKAY? BECAUSE I'M LEARNING AT THIS AT THIS TIME OF AGING GRACEFULLY, I'M LOVING TO LEARN. SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE. IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT AND YOU LOVE AND IT'S SOMETHING GOOD FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, DO IT AND STICK TO IT. THANK YOU. GREAT WORDS.

[c. Presentation of proposed updates to the City of DeSoto's Water and Sewer Design Manual]

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, EITHER MYSELF OR MR. MD HASSAN WILL TAKE THOSE AS WELL. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO SHARE WITH Y'ALL WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT. I'M GOING TO. THERE WE GO. WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE. WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE UPDATE, THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THE MAJOR UPDATES AND THE BENEFITS OF THAT. AND SO, AS MR. LACY NOTED, IT WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2004. AND LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, THERE HAVE

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SO ALL OF THESE THINGS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ADDRESSED IN THIS MANUAL. AND SO AS TEQ IS THE REGULATORY AGENCY, EVERYTHING HAS TO GO ACCORDING TO THAT. SO WE UPDATED ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND THERE WERE SOME MINIMUM SIZES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WERE NOT UP TO STANDARDS, CURRENT STANDARDS NOW THAT WERE IN THE THE REPORT AS IT WAS. AND SO THE OTHER THING THEY DID, AND Y'ALL HAVE DONE SOME EXCELLENT THINGS ALREADY WITH SOME OTHER UPDATES AND MANUALS IS YOU PUT A, MAKE A PLAN TO PUT A QUICK UPDATE AND TO MAKE IT A BETTER ORGANIZED FORMAT SO YOUR RESIDENTS AND DEVELOPERS AND ALL THAT CAN BE USING THE USER AGENCIES AND PEOPLE ARE BETTER ABLE TO DO THAT. SO THAT WAS A BIG PART OF, OF WHAT WAS ADDED INTO THIS. SO THE, THE PROCESS FOR DEVELOPING THE MANUAL WAS A TECHNICAL REVIEW, AND WE COORDINATED WITH THE CITY. AND MR. HUSSEIN WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE GOT STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY YOUR DEVELOPERS AND ENGINEERS THAT THAT DO PROJECTS WITH THE CITY AS WORK ON THE DEVELOPMENT. AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS REVIEWED AND WE ASKED STAKEHOLDERS AT THAT TIME, DO YOU HAVE THINGS THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE UPDATED? AND WE DIDN'T REALLY GET ANY COMMENTS OR MANY COMMENTS THERE. BUT THEN WHEN WE SHARED WHAT WE CAME UP WITH AS THE PROJECT DEVELOPED, WE HAD MUCH MORE INTEREST THAT OF, OF THE STAKEHOLDERS. SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE MET WITH THE CITY STAFF AND LOOKED AT THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS. AND REALLY THAT GEAR OF, OF MAKING SURE THE REGULATORY THINGS AND THEN THE, THE THINGS THAT Y'ALL WANT TO INCLUDE NOW, LIKE GIS AND, AND OTHER MAJOR TECHNOLOGICAL IMPROVEMENTS, THOSE WERE REVIEWED AND EVALUATED. SO WE DID THOSE ISSUES. WE COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES AROUND HERE AND SEE WHAT ARE THEIR STANDARDS AND HOW DO THEY DO THAT? CITIES, BIG AND LARGE, SAME SIZE NEIGHBORS. AND, AND WE'RE SOME OF OUR STAFF HAS BEEN IN PLACES THAT, THAT DID THINGS THAT Y'ALL WERE INTERESTED IN DOING. AND THAT REVIEW PROCESS, WE WERE ABLE TO INCLUDE THOSE OF, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS ONE THING THAT A CITY REALLY DID WELL THAT Y'ALL MIGHT THAT COULD MEET Y'ALL'S NEED, WE WERE ABLE TO, TO ADD THOSE THINGS SO THAT WE PUT TOGETHER THE DRAFT TO WORK TOGETHER WITH AND OR TO GIVE AS A REPORT. AND WE HELD A WORKSHOP WITH THE CITY STAFF. INITIALLY, WE SENT IT TO STAKEHOLDERS AND WE WENT THROUGH AND TALKED ABOUT THINGS THAT WHERE THERE WAS A, A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION OF, OF WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE REPORT FROM, FROM THE DEVELOPER VIEWPOINT OR AN ENGINEERING VIEWPOINT VERSUS THE CITY'S. AND SO WE WORKED THROUGH ALL OF THOSE IN REFINING THOSE INCORPORATING THE CITY COMMENTS AND AGAIN, GETTING THE DEVELOPER INPUT AND, AND PREPARING THAT FINAL DRAFT. THE NEXT NEXT THING WAS, THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE WANTED TO DO AS FAR AS MAKING IT EASIER TO MOVE, TO MANEUVER AROUND AND TO BE ABLE TO USE IT. THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS SINCE 2004. THERE'S A LOT OF WEB LINKS IN HERE AND A LOT MORE DIGITAL FORMAT. AND SO IT'S EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT IT ON YOUR WEBSITE AND OTHER RELATED DOCUMENTS ON THERE. THERE ARE LINKS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

THERE'S A WAY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE LIVE OR UPDATED PERIODICALLY. UPDATES TO THE DOCUMENT. AND THAT THAT CAN BE, AND YOU'LL HAVE A RECORD OF WHAT'S CHANGED AND WHEN IT WAS CHANGED BY DOING THAT. BUT THE HIGHLIGHTS UP IN THE TOP REALLY SHOW WHAT'S IN EACH SECTION SO YOU CAN KNOW WHAT WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE. THE UPDATE FOR THE TECHNICAL THINGS REALLY WERE MORE. PRIMARILY T, E, Q AND THEIR REQUIREMENTS ARE, ARE, WERE FOREMOST IN ALL OF THIS.

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VENDORS CAN PROPOSE NEW PRODUCTS, AND THEY CAN BE EVALUATED BY THE STAFF OF THE CITY. AND THEN IT CAN BE ADDED TO A PREFERRED PRODUCTS LIST AND IT GOES FORWARD. NOW, IF SOMEBODY NEEDS SOMETHING IN THE MEANTIME, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT ANNUAL THING. BUT IT'S SET UP TO WAY VENDOR TO WHERE VENDORS CAN PROPOSE USING THEIR PRODUCTS, AND THE STAFF CAN EVALUATE, OKAY, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS IS A PRODUCT THAT WE NEED? IS IT BETTER OR SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE? SO THAT LIST CAN BE UPDATED ONCE A YEAR AND IT IT CAN BE UPDATED AND ADDED TO THE WEBSITE. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TILL 2000 AND THE NEXT 40 YEARS OR 20 YEARS. SO AND SO THINGS CAN BE UPDATED, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER IT'S NEEDED BASED ON THIS. AND THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE ADDED, WE'VE, WE MADE IT THAT WE'RE, WE COULD USE THE WATER CONSERVATION AND IMPACT FEE PROVISIONS. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT IN THERE BEFORE. SO WE HAVE THOSE THOSE THINGS AS A NEW THING THAT'S BEEN ADDED AGAIN SINCE 2004. SO THERE ARE SOME STANDARDIZED SUBMITTALS AND THINGS THAT WEREN'T IN THE OTHER DOCUMENT RELATED TO CHECKLISTS FOR THINGS. WHEN A DEVELOPER MAKES SOMETHING, HE HAS A CHECKLIST, SHE, HE OR SHE HAS A CHECKLIST OF THINGS THAT THEY KNOW WHAT HAS TO BE DONE TO GET THEIR, THEIR DEVELOPMENT OR THOSE PLANS SUBMITTED. AND SO THAT CAN BE CHECKED OFF ON THEIR PLATS OF MIDDLE CHECKLIST THAT CAN GO THROUGH THAT. SOME OF THIS WAS IT ELIMINATES DUPLICATION OF BETWEEN BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS. AND IT LETS US IT MAKES IT WHERE IT'S ONLY IN THERE ONE TIME. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CONFLICTING RULES AND THAT KIND OF THINGS THAT THAT SOMETIMES HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE DUPLICATION OF, OF RULES. THE QUALITY CHECKLISTS ARE IN THERE THAT THAT THE GOAL IS TO MAKE IT EASY FOR DEVELOPERS TO KNOW WHAT IS EXPECTED AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE HAD EVERYTHING. SO IT SHOULD HELP TO, TO HAVE THINGS HAPPEN JUST ONE TIME. AND THEN THE PROCESS UPDATES. WE TALK ABOUT A DEFINED PROCESS FOR LOOKING AT THE AVAILABILITY OF SERVICE AND HOW THINGS. IF THERE'S A COST FOR HANDLING THINGS OR EVALUATING AND THE RESPONSIBILITY. IT ADDRESSES THOSE THINGS WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN HANDLED IN A. IT WAS MORE A CASE BY CASE BASIS. SO THERE'LL BE MORE STANDARDIZED THINGS, STANDARDIZED PROCESS AND, AND THE AGAIN, THE APPROVED PRODUCTS, THE PEOPLE BUILDING NEW FACILITIES IN THE CITY ARE DESIGNING THEM WILL HAVE A LIST OF THOSE PRODUCTS TO BE USED. THE ASSET AND MAINTENANCE INFORMATION IS REALLY TAKING A STEP FORWARD WHEN YOU USE GIS THERE, THAT IS GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE THINGS. AND THIS WILL REQUIRE THAT THAT DEVELOPERS TURN THINGS IN IN A GIS FORMAT, AND

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IT'S AN 80 PAGE DOCUMENT AND THERE WERE QUITE A FEW. THERE WERE WAY MORE THAN THIS THAT WERE UPDATED. BUT THESE WILL KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE 2004, USED TO THE MINIMUM WASTEWATER MAIN SIZE IN THE 2004 REPORT WAS SIX INCH, AND NOW THAT'S AN EIGHT INCH MINIMUM. THEY'RE EXPANDED BACKFLOW PREVENTION REQUIREMENTS, AND THOSE WERE VIRTUALLY NOT PAID ATTENTION TO AT ALL. AND SO THAT'S A DEFINITE SAFETY COMMUNITY SAFETY MEASURE. NSF 61 IS SOMETHING THAT RELATES TO EVERY PRODUCT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT. AND THAT'S A REQUIREMENT. BUT IT DID NOT EXIST AT THE TIME BEFORE. THERE'S MORE STRINGENT UTILITY SEPARATIONS BETWEEN WATER AND SEWER. SO THOSE THOSE ARE MORE CLEARLY DEFINED. AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE THE CREATION OF MORE TRENCHLESS TECHNOLOGY. AND YOU HAVE BETTER WAYS TO INSTALL THINGS. AND IT GIVES YOU THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. IT ADDRESSES SOME OF THOSE. THERE WASN'T THERE WERE NOT ANY CORROSION PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR METALLIC PIPE. AND THAT HAS CHANGED. AND THAT'S SOMETHING GOOD BECAUSE I'M LIKE, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER HUGHES SAID, I'VE GOT SOME AGE ON ME. SO I REMEMBER WHEN WE DIDN'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. AND AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S MAJOR CHANGED ACROSS MY CAREER. THINGS DON'T LAST FOREVER. AND THEN THE THE MATERIALS CHANGED. AND, AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THESE I'VE SEEN ACROSS MY CAREER, EXPANDED AIR RELEASE AND VACUUM RELIEF REQUIREMENTS, THOSE THINGS HAVE GOTTEN SO MUCH BETTER. AND WE KNOW BETTER WHERE YOU NEED THEM AND HOW TO DO THAT THAN Y'ALL DID WHEN, WHEN EVEN YOUR SYSTEMS WERE DEVELOPED. BUT WHEN THE FIRST REPORT WAS, AND THERE'S MORE EXPANDED BLOW OFF VALVE REQUIREMENTS, AND THEN PUTTING TOGETHER THE EASEMENT BASED ON THE SIZE OF ROADWAYS AND ALL THAT, IT, YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT EASEMENT REQUIREMENT BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE ROADWAYS AND THE, THE EXPECTED USE. SO THERE'S NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL. AND AGAIN, WITH THAT TRENCHLESS TECHNOLOGY ENHANCED BORING AND CASING REQUIREMENTS TO MEET THE CURRENT STANDARDS AND AND THAT'S ALL THAT'S ALL I HAVE. YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MISS BROWN. I DO SEE A LIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. CONSIDERING THIS THIS THIS MANUAL HASN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2004. I I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT. I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT BECAUSE MANY OF THIS IS MOVING FROM, I GUESS, MORE LARGER OR MORE MODERNIZED WAY OF COMPLETING PROJECTS. HAVE YOU ALL EVALUATED THE FINANCIAL IMPACT? MY SECOND QUESTION IS GOING TO BE AROUND THE IMPACT FEES. ON PAGE SIX, YOU DISCUSS THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE CHANGES TO THAT AND THE WATER CONSERVATION. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? IT PROBABLY DEPENDS ON ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT SOME THINGS WILL BE MADE MORE EASY BECAUSE OF THE DIGITAL NATURE OF THINGS. EVERYTHING USED TO HAVE MYLAR AND MAJOR AND THEY WERE DIFFICULT. YOU'D SEND SIX COPIES OF MYLAR THINGS, AND WITH THE ADVENT OF DIGITAL THINGS, THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO SAVE EVERYBODY MONEY BY ALLOWING THAT INSTEAD OF SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS, THE WATER CONSERVATION PLANS, I WOULD SAY THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT. AND, AND BY HAVING A AN ORGANIZED PLAN, IT SHOULD MAKE IT EASIER RATHER THAN TO HAVE TO GO CASE BY CASE. AND WITH THE WATER MASTER PLAN. AND I THINK COMING WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN, THERE WILL BE MORE UPDATES AVAILABLE THAT WON'T HAVE TO GO LOOK. AND YOU HAVE TO GO DO THIS ENGINEERING CALCULATION EVERY TIME. NOW, WE DID NOT LOOK AT THAT FROM THE FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, BUT INTUITIVELY IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT A LOT EASIER FOR CITY STAFF. AND IT WILL BE LESS TIME CONSUMING BECAUSE YOU WON'T HAVE TO GO DO A NEW MODEL RUN AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS FOR FOR THAT. SO THOSE WILL BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE ADVANCEMENT. IT SHOULD REDUCE THE COST. OKAY. WELL, WHAT ABOUT CURRENT PROJECTS LIKE WE HAVE WESTMORLAND GOING ON RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS A ROAD EXPANSION INCLUDES ALL THE WELL BELLS AND WHISTLES FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE OR ANY CURRENT PROJECT THAT WE

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MAYBE IN A MONTH, THIS MANUAL WILL HAVE AN EFFECTIVE DATE WHEN YOU APPROVE THAT ORDINANCE TO ADOPT THE MANUAL FORM. THEN AFTER THAT TIME, THIS MANUAL WILL BE EFFECTIVE AND DESIGNER FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WILL NEED TO FOLLOW THIS MANUAL.

OKAY, SO AFTER IT'S PUBLISHED AND JUST FROM MY OWN RESEARCH, LIKE YOU SAID THAT YOU YOU BOUNCE DE SOTO AGAINST OTHER NORTH TEXAS CITIES, BUT IT DIDN'T LIST THOSE CITIES IN THE PRESENTATION. I CAN TELL YOU I WROTE THAT DOWN BECAUSE I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE WERE. AND THE ONES THAT WE LOOKED AT SPECIFICALLY WERE DENTON, PLANO, ABILENE, RED OAK DWU, FORT WORTH, WACO. AND I KNEW OF THE SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM IN BATON ROUGE FOR ADOPTING PERIODICALLY. DON'T LEAVE IT OPEN ALL THE TIME. YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT MANY QUESTIONS TO ADOPT NEW PROJECTS OR NEW PRODUCTS AND EVALUATE THAT. BUT THAT WAS BASED ON SOMETHING THAT THAT I HAD SEEN FROM BATON ROUGE. AND SO THAT'S, I GUESS, NINE DIFFERENT CITIES THAT WE LOOKED AT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN WESLEY. GOOD EVENING. A FEW QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A PROCESS FOR TRACKING FUTURE REVISIONS AND UPDATES? BECAUSE I SAW YOU MADE IT EASY ON THERE. AND THAT CAN BE UPDATED AND AND PUT ON EACH ONE. AND YOU WRITE WHAT THAT IS AND WHERE IT IS. AND IT CAN BE ADDED TO THE DOCUMENT THAT WILL BE HOUSED ONLINE. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT OUR ENGINEERS AND OUR OPERATIONS AND OUR MAINTENANCE IN THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE REGULATORY STAFF? HAVE THEY REVIEWED THE UPDATES? WHAT WERE THEIR OPINIONS? YES. WE'VE HAD THREE WORKSHOPS WITH STAFF TO DISCUSS. OH, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE HAD THREE.

WORKSHOPS TO DISCUSS THAT. AND WE WOULD WE WOULD TALK ABOUT THOSE. AND THAT REALLY IT WAS HELPFUL. AND I THINK WE WE CAME WHICH WAS THE MORE CONSERVATIVE WAY TO BE IF IT WAS A SHAREHOLDER. STAKEHOLDER HAD A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN ALAN MCDONALD, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT WERE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH THAT AND BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCES OF WHAT THEY'VE HAD ISSUES WITH AND NOT. SO WE'VE HAD GOOD, GOOD COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC OR THE STAKEHOLDERS, BUT ALSO FROM THE OPERATION AS A WHOLE. EVERYONE IS HAPPY WITH THE I THINK SO, YES. THE LAST QUESTION, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES IN THIS MANUAL? WILL THEY REQUIRE TRAINING OR COMMUNICATIONS TO OUR CONSULTANTS OR CONTRACTORS? WILL IT REQUIRE ANY TRAINING FOR ANYONE? I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK IT WILL GENERALLY BE A GUIDE OR THE MANUAL THAT THEY CAN FOLLOW AND AND LOOK UP WHAT THE STANDARD IS. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, THERE MAY BE THINGS AS. THAT THAT MIGHT REQUIRE AN UPDATE WHEN IT'S SOMETHING NEW, LIKE THE GIS, I WOULD SAY THAT MIGHT BE NEW FOR SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS OR SOME OF THE ENGINEERS, BUT THOSE ARE READILY IT'S VERY STANDARD TO PULL IN RECORD DRAWINGS INTO GIS SYSTEMS, AND THEN YOU HAVE A MUCH MORE VALUABLE SYSTEM THAT YOU CAN USE FOR ALL YOUR OTHER PROJECTS. SO IT, IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE TIME AND ADJUSTMENT, AND THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD COST INITIALLY TO HAVE DONE ON A, YOU KNOW, FOR A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. BUT OVERALL, Y'ALL WILL HAVE THAT GOING FORWARD. AND THAT BECOMES PART OF THE PROCEDURE AND THAT, THAT THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, PLAN IN A PROJECT BUDGET. SO WHAT YOU LOOKING AT ALL THOSE OTHER ALL THE OTHER CITIES YOU NAMED, DID WE DO THE, YOU KNOW, NOT NOT THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, BUT WHAT'S REQUIRED BY STATE. BUT DO WE GO UP, UP, UP AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY TO MAKE A MORE QUALITY, MAYBE PRODUCT THAT WAS THAT WAS THE INTENTION TO FIND OUT WHAT Y'ALL WANTED TO DO AND NEED. AND IT WAS A STEP UP TO HAVE A CHECKLIST THAT THAT THE

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[d. Presentation on Public Art Initiatives including the Art at the ARC Project Update and consideration of New Public Art Projects]

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NEXT ONE. DO I HAVE THE SLIDE? OKAY. NEXT SLIDE. OUR FIRST ART PROJECT IS ART AT THE ARC. AND BOARD MEMBER RYAN. OKAY, HOLD IT UP SO YOU CAN SEE IT. OUR ARTIST DID A MAJOR RENDERING SO THAT YOU CAN SEE NOW FOLLOWING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND A PUBLIC SURVEY, RESIDENTS EXPRESSED STRONG SUPPORT FOR ART CELEBRATING DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, WELLNESS AND COMMUNITY CONNECTION. THE COMMUNITY IMPACT OF THIS IS IT CREATES A WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT AND CELEBRATES DESOTO'S DIVERSITY. NEXT SLIDE. THE ART AT THE ART PROJECT WILL CREATE A SIGNATURE PUBLIC ARTWORK FOR THE DESOTO AQUATICS AND RECREATION CENTER THAT CELEBRATES DIVERSITY, INCLUSION, WELLNESS, AND COMMUNITY CONNECTION. IF YOU LOOK TO YOUR RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE A BETTER VIEW. CAN EVERYONE SEE THAT? RYAN? ANGLE IT SOME MORE THE OTHER WAY. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. RYAN. OUR SECOND ART PROJECT IS A MARCUS PARK SUNDIAL. THE CULTURAL ARTS FOUNDATION BOARD IDENTIFIED MARCUS PARK AS A PREFERRED LOCATION FOR A SCULPTURAL SUNDIAL. NOW, YOU ASK, WELL, WHAT IS A SUNDIAL? FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, A SUNDIAL IS AN ANCIENT TIMEKEEPING DEVICE THAT INDICATES THE TIME OF DAY BASED ON THE POSITION OF THE SUN. THE COMMUNITY IMPACT WILL HAVE FOR THIS. IT'S AN INTERACTIVE EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE, A TOURISM DESTINATION AND PERMANENT PUBLIC ARTWORK. OKAY, NOW GO BACK. ESTHER. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A SUNDIAL. MORE THAN A TIMEKEEPING DEVICE, THE SUNDIAL WILL SERVE AS AN EDUCATIONAL FEATURE, A GATHERING PLACE AND SYMBOL OF DE SOTO'S APPRECIATION FOR HERITAGE LEARNING AND INNOVATION. THE ESTIMATED BUDGET FOR THIS SUNDIAL IS $20,000. NEXT. ALL RIGHT. OUR THIRD ART PROJECT IS TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX RAP PROGRAM. THE DESOTO TEXAS CULTURAL ARTS FOUNDATION PROPOSES A PILOT PROGRAM TO TRANSFORM SELECTED TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOXES INTO VIBRANT PUBLIC ART INSTALLATIONS THAT REFLECT DESOTO'S IDENTITY AND BEAUTIFY MAJOR CORRIDORS. THE COMMUNITY IMPACT IT CREATES COMMUNITY PRIDE. IT HIGHLIGHTS DESOTO'S IDENTITY, AND IT BEAUTIFIES OUR INTERSECTIONS. NEXT SLIDE. NOW, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL RAP PROGRAM IS A TWO PHASE PROJECT. OUR CULTURAL ARTS BOARD HAS IDENTIFIED 3 TO 4 HIGHLY VISIBLE INTERSECTIONS. AND THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS, WE WOULD PUT OUT AN RFQ FOR ARTISTS TO SUBMIT ARTWORK. AND THE SECOND PHASE WOULD BE WORKING WITH THE DESOTO ISD, WHERE WE WOULD SOLICIT ARTWORK FROM THE STUDENTS. AND OUR BOARD HAS BEEN WORKING WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO IDENTIFY SIGNAL BOXES THAT ARE READY TO RAP. THEY DIDN'T JUST GO OUT AND SAY, I WANT THIS ONE, I WANT THAT ONE. WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND HOMEWORK. YES YOU DID. ALL RIGHT. AND NEXT STEPS BRING COMPLETED RENDERING BEFORE COUNCIL FOR CONSENSUS. THIS IS FOR ART AT THE AAC. EXECUTE A ARTIST CONTRACT AND THEN THE ARTIST WILL BEGIN FABRICATION AND INSTALLATION. NOW FOR THE SUNDIAL AND TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX WRAPS. WE WOULD ISSUE AN RFQ AND THEN FOLLOW THE PUBLIC ART POLICY PROCESS. ALL RIGHT. AND TOGETHER, THESE THREE PUBLIC ART INITIATIVES REPRESENT A STRATEGIC INVESTMENT IN DESOTO'S FUTURE. THEY WILL ENHANCE PUBLIC SPACES, CELEBRATE THE CITY'S UNIQUE IDENTITY, SUPPORT LOCAL ARTISTS,

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THANK YOU. AND WE'RE NOW OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MISS BRIGHAM. WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING BEFORE US TONIGHT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. THERE'S SOME THERE'S TWO OTHER SMALLER RENDERINGS THERE. YES. IS THAT JUST FOR FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY? NO. THOSE WERE ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES ONLY. EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ASKING, MAYOR. THOSE WERE HIS INITIAL RENDERINGS WHEN WE DID OUR COMMUNITY MEETING, WHERE HE BROUGHT TWO DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS AND THROUGH. THANK YOU. RYAN. HERE YOU HAVE TO WALK AND HOLD THEM BOTH UP THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY THROUGH QUALTRICS. THE RESIDENTS CHOSE THE ONE THAT THEY WANTED AND GAVE US FEEDBACK ON HOW THEY WANTED IT TO PROCEED, AND SO THEY CHOSE THE ONE WITH THE HANDS. AND AS YOU SEE FROM THE GIANT RENDERING, THEY WANTED MORE DIVERSITY IN THE HANDS. AND HE GAVE THEM EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED. ABSOLUTELY. I DO REMEMBER VOTING FOR THAT. NOW, FOR THE PURPOSES OF COUNCIL'S QUESTIONS AND CONVERSATION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE REQUEST FOR TONIGHT. SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR CONSENSUS ON THE CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE, PLEASE? IT'S THE ONE BEFORE THIS ONE. YES.

THE REQUEST IS ARE YOU ASKING FOR ACCEPTANCE OF THAT DESIGN THIS EVENING OR ARE WE IS THIS JUST AN FYI TONIGHT? THIS IS JUST AN FYI TONIGHT. OKAY. SO WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TONIGHT? WE'RE JUST BRINGING IT TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND WE WILL BRING THIS BACK TO COUNCIL FOR AN OFFICIAL VOTE. CONSENSUS CITY MANAGER.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH. AND I THINK COUNCIL I THINK IF THERE'S ANY FEEDBACK OR, YOU KNOW, OR CONCERNS REGARDING THE RENDERING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY. BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW. THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE WHOSE LIGHT WAS ON FIRST COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR THE ART THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO EMBARK UPON. I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AROUND THE ART AT THE ART. THE ITEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE WAS IT GOING TO BE PLACED IN THE ART IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ASKING. IN THE ART, THE AREA RIGHT PAST THE ENTRYWAY WITH THE SEATS THAT GO LIKE THAT, IT'S THE BIG WALL. THEY CALL IT THE SPINE. YES, ON THE SPINE, IT'S THE WALL. AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL IS THE GYM. OKAY, SO IT'S THAT BIG BLANK WALL RIGHT THERE. OKAY, GOOD. AND THEN ABOUT A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN THIS WALL. IT'S NOT THE FULL ALL THE WAY UP TO THE CEILING. OKAY. AND THEN SO THE TIMELINE THAT YOU GAVE, YOU SAID THIS PARTICULAR, WE'RE WELL, I'M SORRY, FORGIVE ME. WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING TONIGHT TO THE CONSENSUS. THE PART THAT SAYS COUNCIL CONSENSUS IS TO. MOVE IT FORWARD. SO YOU DO NEED SOMETHING FROM US TONIGHT. THAT WAS MY PURPOSE FOR CLARIFYING WHAT YOU NEEDED FROM US TONIGHT.

OKAY, I DO APOLOGIZE. YES. WE NEED YOUR CONSENSUS. MY APOLOGIES IF I WASN'T CLEAR, BUT YES. SO YOU NEED OUR CONSENSUS TO MOVE THAT ARTWORK FORWARD, THAT DESIGN FORWARD

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ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUT TO OUR CHARTER SCHOOLS OR PRIVATE SCHOOLS. YEAH. I MEAN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT ALL THE KIDS, THERE'S NOT JUST KIDS THAT ARE IN CHARTER SCHOOLS, THERE ARE KIDS THAT ARE BEING HOMESCHOOLED IN THE CITY OF DESOTO AS WELL. WE WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT EVERYBODY GETS AN OPPORTUNITY, A SHOT. AND THEN AS FAR AS ANY WRAPPING, I MEAN, OF THE ACTUAL ARTWORK FOR THE WRAPS, THE TIMELINE FOR YOU SAID IN THE IN THE PRESENTATION, IT SAID 5 TO 7 YEARS THAT WRAP WOULD LAST 5 TO 7 YEARS. YES. YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

OKAY. SO THEY COULD POSSIBLY BE CHANGED OUT. AND WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH ANOTHER ITERATION OF THIS. YES. OKAY. MY LAST AND FINAL QUESTION IS ABOUT THE SUNDIAL. GREAT IDEA. LOVE IT. I THINK THAT IT'S GREAT FOR US TO SEE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE IN THE CITY OF DESOTO, BUT I DO HAVE QUESTIONS AROUND THE ADA COMPLIANCE FOR WHERE THIS IS. WHERE WOULD THIS DIAL? I MEAN, ALL OF THAT WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS TO WHERE THE PLACEMENT OF THE SUNDIAL NEEDS TO BE, AND THEN THE ADA REQUIREMENTS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO GET AROUND IT AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO LIKE CONCRETE AND THAT SORT OF THING TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO IT. CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. AND WE WILL BE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

OUTSTANDING. I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER'S POINT. I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR US TO BE CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE'VE DONE PREVIOUS CONTESTS, MEANING THAT IT'S OPEN TO ANY OF OUR YOUTH THAT LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF DESOTO, NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR BRIDGE ART CONTEST IS OPEN TO ANY, ANY STUDENT, ANY YOUNG PERSON THAT LIVES WITHIN OUR CITY. SO I WOULD ASK THAT WE KEEP IT CONSISTENT FOR ANY OF OUR CONTESTS THAT WAY. AS SHE MENTIONED, WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO BE FAIR AND LET EVERYBODY PARTICIPATE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. SO CAN I ASK YOU HOW MUCH HAVE WE PAID ON THE DESIGN SO FAR? OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ASKING. WE'VE PAID $150 FOR JUST THE DESIGN FOR THAT GIANT DESIGN.

AND HOW MUCH WILL THE ACTUAL ARTWORK IN THE ART COST? IT WILL BE $30,000. OKAY. AND YOU SAID THIS IS COMING FROM THE ART FOUNDATION FUND. SO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS. NO, I'M SORRY. LET ME LET ME FOR ART AT THE ARK. I MISSPOKE ON THAT. THAT'S COMING FROM THE PARKS AND REC FUND. OH, WOW. OKAY. SO IS THAT FROM THE ARK FUND THAT WE THAT WE WERE SPENDING ON THE ARK? OR IS THIS JUST THE PARK AND REC BUDGET IN GENERAL? WELL, I LIKE TO DEFER TO PARKS AND REC ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WE WERE UNDER BUDGET, BUT I DIDN'T I MEAN, YES, MA'AM. TYLER, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES. THE FUNDS FOR ARTS AND THE ARK WERE EARMARKED FROM THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT FOR THE ARK. SO THEY ARE STILL WITHIN THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT FUND FUNDING FOR THE ARK, NOT FROM THE ART FOUNDATION. OKAY. SO THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE A TOTAL OF $180,000 FOR THIS, FOR THIS ONE, 50 FOR THE DESIGN, 30 FOR THE $150 TOTAL. NO, $30,000 FOR THE ARTWORK IS HOW I UNDERSTAND IT. IN $150 FOR DESIGN. YES. OKAY. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS WHILE WE STILL HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE IN THAT BALANCE THAT WE WERE UNDER, UNDER THE BUDGET, IS THIS THE LAST PUBLIC ART THAT'S COMING TO US REGARDING

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I'LL TAKE IT. OKAY, SO YOU MAY APPROACH THE BENCH. SO. SO WHO'S GOING TO GET THOSE ORIGINALS IF IT'S GOING TO BE PUT ON THE CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT AND IT WILL LIVE IN CITY HALL. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT YES, HE'S GOING TO FABRICATE IT ON HEAVY DUTY

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WHAT ABOUT THE DAMAGE, SINCE THAT'S PUBLIC, LIKE THE SUNDIAL? THE SUNDIAL? I MEAN, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, THOSE. IT COULD BE. WE HOPE THAT. WELL, THERE WHEN WE PUT OUT THE RFQ, THERE ARE SPECIFICS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THERE, LIKE A SPECIFIC TYPE OF GRANITE AND ALL OF THAT AND ALL OF THAT WILL BE BUILT INTO THE RFQ. AND PRIOR TO US DOING THAT, WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONSENSUS. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WATERS.

OKAY, THANK YOU, MADAM, JUST REAL QUICK FIRST, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I LIKE THE ENERGY AND ENTHUSIASM. VERY GOOD. REAL QUICK. I ALREADY KNOW THESE ANSWERS BECAUSE I'M THE LIAISON FOR THE CULTURAL ARTS BOARD. BUT FOR THE PEOPLE, THE RESIDENTS. HOW BIG OR SIZE WISE IS THIS GOING TO BE AT THE ART? WELL, THAT PARTICULAR PIECE WILL BE LIKE THE SIZE OF THAT WALL, THAT WHOLE BIG WALL RIGHT THERE. IT'S NOT QUITE AS LARGE AS THAT. WE PROBABLY DO HAVE THE NUMBERS. WE JUST DIDN'T BRING THEM WITH US TONIGHT. BUT IT'S, IT'S, I WOULD SAY IT'S MAYBE 36 BY WELL, 18 BY, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, 36 BY 20. THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD ME. THE SIZE OF THE WALL WAS. SO IT WILL BE, IT WILL BE GINORMOUS. IT WON'T BE, IT'LL BE LIKE FOUR TIMES THE SIZE OF THAT. OKAY. AND REAL QUICK, ONE LAST THING. YOU KNOW, YOU BROUGHT THE WHOLE CREW TODAY. DO WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THE BOARD MEMBERS OUT HERE? THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM KEN WATERS. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR BOARD MEMBERS. RYAN BROOKS, OUR. YEAH, DOCTOR KNOW MR. WHITE, JIM WHITE, PAMELA SPOONER, PART OF THE DESOTO TEXAS CULTURAL ARTS FOUNDATION, AND OUR VICE PRESIDENT, THE JEWEL OF DESOTO, MISS KATHY JONES. THANK YOU. I'M EXCITED TO STILL BE INVOLVED WITH THE ARTS. VERY HAPPY TO DO IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO, MISS BRIGHAM, YOU NEED A CONSENSUS, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. THIS ARTWORK. SO COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO GO BY TO GET EVERYBODY'S THOUGHTS ON THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF ARTWORK TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD.

CORRECT. MAYOR PRO TEM HUGHES, THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION. I LOVE IT.

I'M IN AGREEMENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. CHISHOLM. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER NORTH YES I AM. YES.

EXCUSE ME, COUNCILMAN WESLEY. YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WATERS. YES. AND COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER. AND I'M A YES. I DID HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION. THE SURVEY SOMEBODY WAS ASKING ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY DID THAT SURVEY? WE HAD AROUND 53. OKAY. GOOD DEAL. THANK YOU.

I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU. CAN YOU CAN YOU MAKE IT QUICK? OKAY. BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY WITH REGARDS TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WRAP, I LOVE THAT IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM. I HOPE THAT IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL SO WE CAN SEE MORE BEAUTIFICATION AROUND OUR CITY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MISS BRIGHAM. THANK YOU, MISS JONES. JEWEL OF DESOTO. MADAM CITY SECRETARY,

[a. Discuss ways to retain and support Youth Sports Organizations in DeSoto]

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THESE ITEMS THAT WERE BEING BROUGHT UP, UNCERTAINTY ABOUT SECURITY AND POLICE REQUIREMENTS. SO THERE'S A CALL TO ACTION, AND I WANTED TO BRING IT FORWARD TO STRENGTHEN THESE PARTNERSHIPS, BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE WHO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE ACTUALLY PEOPLE WHO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY IN THE CITY OF DESOTO. SO I WOULD ASK THIS COUNCIL, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I WANT. I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE FORMALIZE COMMUNICATION PROTOCOLS. WE NEED TO DEVELOP A CLEAR TIMELINE AND PROCESS FOR NOTIFYING ORGANIZATIONS. WE NEED TO ASSIGN DESIGNATED LIAISONS FROM THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT. WE NEED TO PROVIDE CLEAR COMMUNICATION ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY PROTOCOLS. WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE FACILITY ACCESS FOR LONG STANDING PARTNERS. WE EVEN NEED TO PROBABLY RECOGNIZE WHAT LONG TERM, LONG STANDING PARTNERS ARE. WE NEED TO HAVE SOME COURT. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CREATE A QUARTERLY HOSTING OF A ROUND TABLE FOR THESE YOUTH SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS. LET THEM SPEAK BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. AND I MEAN INTERNAL AS WELL AS EXTERNAL.

WE NEED TO DEVELOP A YOUTH ORGANIZATION RETENTION PLAN, FIND A WAY TO TALK TO THEM AND KEEP THEM HERE. WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY OF DESOTO BY HIGHLIGHTING THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS. AND SO IN CONCLUSION FROM ME, OUR YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS ARE PILLARS OF STRENGTH FOR DESOTO, AND IT IS OUR COLLECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THEY NOT ONLY SURVIVE, BUT THRIVE BY IMPROVING COMMUNICATION PRIOR TO US PRIORITIZING ACCESS TO RESOURCES AND FOSTERING TRUE PARTNERSHIPS, WE CAN CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE OUR ORGANIZATIONS FEEL VALUED AND SUPPORTED. I URGE THE CITY OF DESOTO TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION TO STEP IN STEPS TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS AND WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH US, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY AND PARKS AND RECS, AS WELL AS THESE ORGANIZATIONS, AND BE A CITY WHERE THE YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS FLOURISH AND WHERE EVERY CHILD HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW, SUCCEED AND CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO ATTENTION, THESE ARE WHAT WE CALL PLACER AI. BEFORE WE HAD SOMEONE WHO LIVED, BREATHED AND TALKED, SPOKE, HE HE ATE PARKS AND RECS, AND HE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT PLACER AI. PLACER AI WAS A PIECE OF DATA THAT ALLOWS US TO SEE HOW SOMETHING ACTUALLY LIVES IN DESOTO. HOW DOES IT WORK? AS YOU CAN SEE, SOME OF THE KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS WEEKEND. THIS WEEKEND WAS ACTUALLY, WHAT IS IT, JULY 30TH THROUGH AUGUST 2ND, THREE DAYS.

THIS ONE SAYS TO AUGUST 3RD BECAUSE IT WAS ON THAT MONDAY. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, 19000 PEOPLE CAME THROUGH THE CITY OF DESOTO FOR VARIOUS REASONS. BUT IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE HAD A SPORTS ORGANIZATION HAVING A TOURNAMENT HERE IN THE CITY OF DESOTO, 12000 VISITORS. THAT MEANS THAT THOSE OTHER NUMBERS WERE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN DESOTO. AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY STAYED HERE. THEY VISITED FREQUENTLY, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE VERY END DOWN THERE WHERE IT SAYS, AND THIS DATA CAME FROM OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. THE VISITS YEAR OVER YEAR IS 17.

THEY'RE UP 17% FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, 231%. AND MY WHOLE PURPOSE OF BRINGING THIS

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AND AS I SAID BEFORE, WHEN WE HAD FILA, WHAT IS IT, FIFA JUST RECENTLY, IF WE DIDN'T LEARN ANYTHING FROM FIFA, WE KNEW THAT PEOPLE LIKED SPORTS. THEY'D LIKE TO COME WHERE SPORTS ARE. IF WE HAVE YOUTH SPORTS IN DESOTO AND WE HAD A WEEKEND LIKE THIS EVERY WEEKEND, CAN YOU IMAGINE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT THIS WILL HAVE ON US? SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TEN, THE TEN FAVORITE PLACES VISITED OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE VISITING DESOTO, THAT'S WHERE THEY VISITED. SOME STAYED AT HOTELS, BUT NOT MANY. SOME WERE IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS WITHIN THE THE TEN MILE RADIUS. AND THEN THERE WERE PEOPLE ALL THE WAY FROM ODESSA COMING TO THE CITY OF DESOTO. SO WE WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE KEEP IN MIND WHILE WE GO THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT. I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM AN ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE. MY DAUGHTER'S 23 NOW. WHEN SHE WAS YOUNG, I HAD TO GO NORTH. I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE KEEP EVERYTHING HERE IN THE CITY OF DESOTO AND THINK OF IT FROM AN ECONOMIC IMPACT TO BE ABLE TO HELP THESE ORGANIZATIONS, ORGANIZATIONS STAY HERE IN THE CITY OF DESOTO. I TURN IT OVER TO MY COPARTNER HERE, AND HE WILL GIVE SOME MORE INFORMATION. THANK YOU. OH, SORRY. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN PARKER. FIRST, I WANT TO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ASKING ME TO BE THE SECOND ON THIS BECAUSE. SOME OF A LOT OF THE THINGS I WAS NOT AWARE OF, AND THE MORE I LOOKED INTO IT AND MORE INFORMATION I GOT, THE MORE PRESSING THIS ISSUE IS. BUT ANYWAY, THIS CITY HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR SPORTS YOUTH SPORTS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PUT US ON THE MAP. OKAY. BACK WHEN BMX AND ALL THAT, AND THEN FOOTBALL AND EVERYTHING ELSE. NOW I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A GENERAL IDEA OF ECONOMIC IMPACT, BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMICS, THEN YOU HAVE MY ATTENTION. OKAY. AND I ACTUALLY ATTENDED THIS EVENT HERE THAT Y'ALL HAVE SHOWN UP HERE. I WENT TO IT ON SUNDAY. OKAY.

THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I WENT TO A YOUTH SPORTS FOOTBALL TOURNAMENT THING AND I WENT ON SUNDAY. THAT'S THE LIGHT DAY. OKAY. THE PARKING LOT WAS FULL. IT WAS OVER AT MCCOWAN PARK, RIGHT? PARKING LOT WAS FULL. I WAS IN THE BACK OVERFLOW PARKING. OKAY. ANYWAY, I GOT A CHANCE TO KIND OF SEE, YOU KNOW, AS IF I WAS ACTING AS IF I WAS A TOURIST, YOU KNOW, COMING IN FIRST TIME. RIGHT. WELL, REMEMBER, THIS IS YOUTH SPORTS, OKAY? KIDS PLAYING FOOTBALL.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, WE GOT I GOT MY CAR. OKAY? I GO IN TO PAY WITH THE, YOU KNOW, AT THE LITTLE, LITTLE TABLE THERE. THEN YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH THE MAIN ENTRANCE, RIGHT. WELL, YOU GOT LIKE TWO GUYS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, DRESSED IN ALL BLACK, LIKE THEY'RE POLICE OFFICERS BUT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU CALL SECURITY? SECURITY. OKAY. I GET ALL PATTED DOWN AND WANDED LIKE I'M GOING TO THE CLUB AND, YOU KNOW, IN A BAD PART OF TOWN, BUT WHATEVER. BUT WHEN I GET IN, OKAY, THIS IS KIDS, RIGHT? BUT WHEN I GET IN, IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE.

EVERYBODY'S HAVING FUN AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. AND ANYWAY, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, I WAS LIKE, THIS IS THIS IS GREAT. I WASN'T EVEN WORRIED. IT WAS THIS MANY PEOPLE THAT WAS GOING THROUGH THIS. AND ANYWAY, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A GENERAL IDEA ABOUT THE IDEA AS FAR AS IMPACT.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT, 12,000 PLUS PEOPLE THAT WEEKEND, THREE DAY WEEKEND, 19,000 OR 19,000. OKAY. I'M GONNA PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE. I DON'T KNOW IF IS CHRIS CURRY HERE. I THINK HE IS OKAY. HE MAY HAVE BETTER NUMBERS ON THE FINANCIAL IMPACT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PLACE. BUT BACK IN MAY, JUST TO GIVE YOU A GENERAL IDEA, BACK IN MAY, BMX, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN WITH US A LONG TIME AND IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT AUDIENCE AND, YOU KNOW, NOT AS MANY PEOPLE, RIGHT. BUT THEY HAD A BIG EVENT, RIGHT? ONE DAY, STATE QUALIFIED EVENT, 1088 PEOPLE. OKAY, THAT'S IT. JUST 1008 PEOPLE FOR ONE DAY. THEY DID AN ECONOMIC REPORT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PLACE OF AI AND ALL THIS. AND THAT ONE DAY EVENT BROUGHT TO THIS CITY $407,657.74 FOR THAT ONE DAY FOR ONLY 1088 PEOPLE. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW MUCH FINANCIAL IMPACT THAT 19,000 PEOPLE BROUGHT FOR THREE DAYS. NOW, I MENTIONED THIS PROBABLY LAST YEAR. A LOT OF RESIDENTS DON'T REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO HAVE TO GO OVER TO NORTH SIDE OF TOWN TO PLAY PEOPLE FOR OUR FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL, ALL THAT STUFF, YOU KNOW. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CHRIS GLOVER, HE LEFT. BUT I WISH HE DIDN'T. BUT HE HAD THE VISION TO SAY NO, NO, NO, NO. WE'RE GOING TO COME DOWN HERE TO PLAY THE BEST.

RIGHT. OH WHERE ARE YOU. YEAH. YOU. THERE YOU ARE. OKAY, OKAY. YOU'LL BE COME HERE LATER, I

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Y'ALL SHOW ME ALL THIS STUFF. NOW YOU HAVE MY ATTENTION. THIS IS COMING TO THE TOP OF MY LIST, OKAY? BECAUSE REMEMBER, WE HAVE TO LEAN INTO WHAT MAKES US UNIQUE FOLKS, OKAY? AND YOUTH SPORTS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES US UNIQUE. OKAY? AND IT BRINGS UP A LOT OF TOURISM.

OH, ONE LAST THING. I DO WANT TO SHOW YOU ALL. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS UP. IF YOU SEE THE TOP TEN FAVORITE PLACES THAT WE VISIT, OKAY. I MEAN THAT, I MEAN THE TOURISTS, PEOPLE THAT COME IN TOWN, IF YOU NOTICE, WHEN THEY GO TO THIS ARC, WHEN THEY'RE LEAVING, ONLY THING THEY'RE DOING HERE IN DESOTO, THE TOP TEN THING IS THEY'RE GETTING GAS, THEY'RE GETTING GAS, AND THEY'RE GOING OVER TO CEDAR HILL OR LANCASTER TO GO EAT. THEY'RE NOT HUNGRY GOING TO THE ARC. THEY'RE HUNGRY, LEAVING. SO WHAT IS HAPPENING IS ALL THESE TOURISTS THAT Y'ALL HAVE, YOU KNOW, WITH Y'ALL'S VISION AND EVERYTHING AND BRINGING EVERYBODY HERE, YOU BRINGING ALL THIS TOURISM TO THIS CITY. AND SO WHAT IS HAPPENING IS CEDAR HILL, LANCASTER ARE LOVING US, OKAY? BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING OVER THERE AND EATING. OKAY. SO WE HAVE NOT EVEN WE HAVEN'T HAD THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO CATCH UP. OKAY. SO ANYWAY, I WANT TO, I WANT TO THAT'S WHERE ECONOMICS COMING IN. THAT'S WE'RE CATCHING UP NOW. WE'RE WAKING UP, WE'RE GOING TO START CATCHING UP TO START HAVING MORE SHOPPING, DINING, ENTERTAINMENT HERE TO CAPTURE SOME OF THAT REVENUE. OKAY. SO, BUT I WANT I'M JUST SO GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT THIS UP. OKAY, BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG FINANCIAL IMPACT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME. I CAN SPEAK ALL NIGHT, BUT THAT'S THE STARTERS. BUT I HAVE OTHER THINGS. BUT I WANT TO YIELD BACK AGAIN SO WE CAN GET THE CONVERSATION, GET THE CONVERSATION GOING. OKAY. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, YOU MENTIONED OUT OF THE TOP TEN PLACES VISITED, MOST OF THEM WERE NOT IN DESOTO, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN TERMS OF CAPTURING THE ECONOMIC IMPACT? YEAH, I THOUGHT THIS. BECAUSE THE SECOND ONE ON THE LIST IS HILLSIDE VILLAGE, WHICH IS IN THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL IN WALMART AND WHEATLAND TOWN CROSSING. RIGHT. THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE IN OTHER CITIES. YES.

CORRECT. SO IT'S IT'S REALLY NOT IN DESOTO. SO WE'RE NOT CAPTURING THE ECONOMIC IMPACT FROM. THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WE COULD BE WE COULD BE WHAT WE DON'T. IF IT'S IN ANOTHER CITY THOUGH. QUICK TRIP. THE QUICK TRIP IS GETTING A FLOW. OKAY. WALMART IS GETTING FLOW. MAYBE THE SHELL IS GETTING FLOW. I, I DON'T HAVE THE ADDRESSES RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THOSE ARE ALL FROM DESOTO. THE ARC GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TRACTION. WELL, THE ARC IS NEXT TO THE ACTUAL PARK, SO THE PLACER AR PICKS IT UP BY CELL PHONE DATA. RIGHT? SO THE ARC IS GOING TO AUTOMATICALLY BE CAPTURED BECAUSE THEY'RE IN MCCARREN PARK. OKAY. REGARDLESS, THE WALMART NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET IS THE ONE THAT'S RIGHT THERE ON ON PARKVILLE AND THEN THE 7-ELEVEN. SO THE EXXON, THE 7-ELEVEN, THE EXXON IS ON OUR SIDE OF THE BLOCK. THE 7-ELEVEN IS ON OUR SIDE OF THE BLOCK. THE KWIK TRIP IS ON BELTLINE.

AND THEN THERE'S A QUICK TRIP IN IN LANCASTER, LANCASTER. SO THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT QUICK TRIPS. SO THEY DID THE KWIK TRIP PROBABLY GOING OR LEAVING. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IS MOST OF THESE PLACES ARE IN DESOTO, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MAYBE TWO, TWO. OKAY, CORRECT. I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN WATER'S POINT WHEN HE SAID LANCASTER AND OTHER CITIES LOVE US FOR THESE TYPES OF EVENTS. SO I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WAS AT THE POINT HE WAS MAKING IS THAT THEY'RE CAPTURING SOME OF THIS AS WELL. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER CHISHOLM, THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM KIM WATERS FOR BRINGING THIS ITEM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE ALL HAVE SAT ON THE SIDELINE AND KIND OF WATCHED THIS PLAY OUT. AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN THE ROOM WHO DON'T KNOW THE PLAY OUT, THERE HAS BEEN SOME CHALLENGES WITH OUR FOOTBALL LEAGUE. AND AS SOMEONE WHO WAS JUST THRUSTED INTO THIS WORLD LAST YEAR AS A SPONSOR AND A SPONSOR OF MY NEPHEW, AND WATCHING THEM PLAY LITTLE LEAGUE RIGHT HERE IN DESOTO FOR TRACK AND FOOTBALL, I UNDERSTAND THE NECESSITY OF WHAT YOU ALL DO DAY TO DAY, AND IF I COULD LOOK AT YOU DIRECTLY AND APOLOGIZE, NOT ON ANYBODY ELSE, BUT AS A LEADER IN THIS COMMUNITY, THE AMOUNT OF HASSLE THAT I'VE SEEN SHOULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE HAD. BUT WHAT IT TELLS ME IS THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AROUND OUR POLICY AND A POLICY THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN PLACE BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHEN, BUT A POLICY

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I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A SECURITY CONCERN, BUT THAT'S TO. SECURITY SHOULD CONCERN SHOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE I KNOW THAT THESE TYPES OF EVENTS, THEY RILE OUR EMOTIONS, RIGHT? WE GET IMPASSIONED AND INVESTED IN IT. BUT EVERY GROUP SHOULD FEEL THE SAME. AND THAT SHOULD NOT CHANGE. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S AS IT RELATES TO THE COST, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN INCONSISTENCIES WITH THAT OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. TO ME, IT ALL STARTS WITH THE POLICY AND HOW WE DO BUSINESS. AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE SHOULD NOT BE MAKING IT HARD TO DO BUSINESS NOW WHILE I WHILE I DON'T, I DON'T SEE LIKE WHAT? SO THE CONVERSATION JUST A MOMENT AGO WAS ABOUT THE ECONOMICS OF DESOTO VERSUS OTHER PLACES. HERE'S WHAT I DO KNOW. THEY'RE BRINGING THE PEOPLE NOW, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO KEEP THEM HERE IS ON US, BUT THEY'RE BRINGING THE PEOPLE HERE. AND I THINK WE GOT TO CHANGE HOW WE SEE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND I'M THIS IS WHY I APPLAUD MY COLLEAGUES AT THE OTHER END OF THE DAIS, BECAUSE THEY SEE THE BIG PICTURE HERE. WE OFTEN SEE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR DRIVERS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS BRICK AND MORTAR, AS THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT HERE'S A CLEAR INDICATION THAT THESE EVENTS ARE HAPPENING AND THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL, AND THEY'RE BRINGING PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE HERE, THAT WANT TO SHOP HERE, THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN HERE, AND WHETHER WE HAVE IT NOW OR TOMORROW, WE NEED WE DON'T NEED TO CUT THE CORD ON, ON, ON THAT RESOURCE. I WOULD AGREE WITH THEM THAT WE NEED TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THE RELATIONSHIPS, AND PERHAPS THAT WOULD HELP US BETTER MANAGE CITY WIDE WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE YOU HAVE LEAGUES, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND SPACES ANY AND EVERYWHERE TO PRACTICE OR TO HOST GAMES. AND I GET THIS MAY NOT BE ORDINARY TO MOST CITIES, BUT DESOTO IS UNIQUE. AND I USED TO, I DON'T KNOW, I USED TO FEEL SOME KIND OF WAY ABOUT US SAYING THAT WE'RE WE'RE INTO SPORTS BECAUSE I'M COLLEGE EDUCATED. I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CHEW GUM AND WALK AT THE SAME TIME. RIGHT. BUT THE THE TRUTH IS THAT WE'VE SEEN NORTHERN CITIES IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA CAPITALIZE ON BEING SPORTS CITIES. AND IT HAS PAID TREMENDOUS DIVIDENDS FOR THEM LONG TERM AS IT RELATES TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND QUALITY OF LIFE. AND I CAN GO ON AND ON. SO I AGREE, I WITH THIS INITIATIVE, I THINK WE NEED A POLICY AS WELL. AND TO SEE HOW WE CAN CREATE INVESTMENT ACROSS THE BOARD FOR

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IN ADDITION TO THE ACTUAL INTERNAL. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME FROM MY PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT I WAS ACTUALLY WRITING. AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT. AND THANK YOU. AND I UNDERSTOOD EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, BUT I STILL THINK IT BEARS STATING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO, BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PRIVATE EVENT ORGANIZERS, THOSE PEOPLE THEN FALL UNDER OUR SPECIAL EVENTS. AND THEN YOU HAVE A POLICY THAT APPLIES STRICTLY TO THOSE YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE CITY IS PARTNERING TO. SO AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE CAN WE CANNOT CONJOIN THE TWO. RIGHT. IF WE HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT AND OUR SPECIAL EVENTS POLICY NEEDS SOME TWEAKING, CREATING A ONE STOP SHOP. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY HAVE ONE ONE SYSTEM THAT EVERYBODY GOES THROUGH. THERE'S COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY ON WHAT IS REQUIRED FROM FROM THE TIME THEY SAY, I'M GOING TO DO MY EVENT, THEN WE NEED THAT. BUT BUT I WHAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO PUSH BACK ON IS THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DISTINCT.

THE DISTINCTION DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE. WE NEED TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE POLICIES SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEIR WHAT, WHICH ONE THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO ABIDE BY. AND I'M NOT DISAGREEING THAT OUR POLICIES DON'T NEED TWEAKING. I'VE SHARED THIS WITH STAFF YEARS BEFORE THIS EVEN CAME TO THE COUNCIL IN TERMS OF THESE PARTICULAR ISSUES THAT WERE HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES. SO I'M NOT IN DISAGREEMENT OF THAT. HOWEVER, WHAT I'M ASKING, AND I'M GOING TO ASK THEM TO DO THAT THIS EVENING AND SHARE BEFORE WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD TO SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO TYPES OF EVENTS AND PROCESSES THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SO THAT WHEN WE DO DEVELOP THESE POLICIES, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHO THEY APPLY TO, AND THE PEOPLE THAT WILL HAVE TO THEN ADHERE TO THEM WILL KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO APPLY TO. I'M NOT SURE WHO CAN DO THAT, MR. AGEE. THANK YOU. I WILL DO MY BEST.

YES, MA'AM. I'LL DO MY BEST. JUST FOR CLARITY, YOU WERE ASKING FOR THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPECIAL EVENT PROCESS AND THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE OUR YOUTH ASSOCIATIONS GO THROUGH. IDEALLY, THE YOUTH ASSOCIATIONS ARE NON-PROFITS THAT HAVE BEEN PARTNERING WITH THE CITY OF DESOTO FOR QUITE SOME TIME, TEN, 15, 20 YEARS. THEIR GOAL OR MISSION IS TO PROVIDE A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AT A LOWER COST. THEY'RE A NONPROFIT, NON REVENUE GENERATING. THEY HAVE TO RETAIN CERTAIN MARGINS FOR PARTICIPATION WITHIN THE CITY.

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IT'S NOT THE YOUNG PEOPLE. IT'S THE ADULTS THAT WE NEED. YOU NEED POLICE BECAUSE THINGS GET HEATED. AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT WE MAYBE, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVING NEEDS TO BE ON THE REC SIDE BECAUSE WITH MY SON PLAYING TRAVEL BASEBALL, THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS HAVE TO BE USED. THE FEES, THE TOURNAMENTS, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY. THEN YOU'RE PAYING INTO THE GATE. SO IT'S, IT'S A LOT. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AND I'M GLAD YOU SAID IT REC THE THE CITY SPONSORING VERSUS A YOUTH ORGANIZATION PUTTING ON EVENTS OR USING THE FACILITIES TO PRACTICE OR TO COME PLAY. SO I, WHAT I'VE READ IN EMAILS AND IN PEOPLE'S FEEDBACK, IT DOES NEED TWEAKING. BUT IT SAFETY IS FIRST. AND SO. WHEN WHEN WE. NOW BASEBALL IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT ATMOSPHERE THAN LITTLE LEAGUE FOOTBALL TODAY, YOU KNOW, SO I, I GET IT AND I AM ALL FOR KEEPING OUR YOUTH HERE IN DESOTO. BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND DESOTO IS WANTED. IF SOMEONE MOVES OUT, SOMEONE WILL COME RIGHT BACK IN BECAUSE IT'S IT'S NOT ONLY A, IT'S A NEED. AND WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AND WE HAVE THE ATHLETES. SO IF YOU DECIDE TO LEAVE BECAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT POLICIES ARE PUT IN PLACE, STAFF PUTS IN PLACE, THERE'S SOMEBODY GOING TO COME BEHIND YOU. SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION BE BECAUSE WE DO WANT STAFF HERE TO STAY IN THESE ORGANIZATIONS. BUT I WANT A CLEAR. YOU KNOW, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF CERTAIN SPORTS. AND IS IT EVEN IF IT'S REC, THAT ALL NEEDS TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE TO ME, THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. SO I APPRECIATE THIS, BUT I THINK SAFETY IS FIRST BECAUSE IT'S GETTING PRETTY SAD THE WAY OUR ADULTS ARE ACTING AT THE, AT THE, AT THESE YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS FROM, FROM BASEBALL, BASKETBALL TO FOOTBALL. IT'S WE NEED TO BE SAFE. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I'M SO EXCITED THAT WE ARE FINALLY HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. MY KIDS PLAYED IN ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE FOOTBALL LEAGUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT 25 YEARS AGO. I PLAYED MYSELF, I'VE BEEN A SPORT OFFICIAL SCARED TO DEATH SOMETIMES OUT THERE, BUT I THINK TIME HAS BROUGHT ABOUT A CHANGE AND IT'S

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COUNCIL MEMBER NORTH. I THINK EVERYBODY HAS SAID EVERYTHING THAT I WOULD HAVE WANTED TO SAY.

SO I AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD BECAUSE OUR YOUTH SPORTS DOES PRESENT THE ANCHOR, THE FOUNDATION FOR OUR YOUTH. I'M SITTING HERE REMEMBERING TOO, WHEN MY SON PLAYED IN FLAG FOOTBALL, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT FIRST INTRODUCTION ON CAMARADERIE. AND I AGREE WITH OUR POLICIES. WE DO NEED TO BE MORE CLEARER THAT WE HAVE CLARIFICATION AROUND THAT. FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT. IT HAD ME THINKING TOO, AS I LOOK AT THIS LIST. ONE, WHAT IS THE RADIUS THAT WE CAPTURING THIS DATA AS I'M LOOKING AT? YES, PEOPLE ARE STOPPING TO GET GAS GOING TO WALMART. BUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE I-35 CORRIDOR, WE HAVE A BURGER KING, CRACKER BARREL, MCDONALD'S, KFC, YOU NAME IT. HOW HOW ARE INDIVIDUALS BYPASSING THOSE BUSINESSES? SO IT MADE ME THINK, CAN WE REACH OUT TO THOSE BUSINESSES TO PARTICIPATE AS WE'RE BRINGING AS WE'RE SEEING 19,000 PEOPLE COME THROUGH OUR CITY, HOW CAN WE PARTNER WITH THEM TO MAYBE HAVE A PACKAGE TOGETHER THAT IF IT'S PRIVATE, IF IT'S OUR CITY PARTNERSHIPS, THE ORGANIZATIONS, CAN WE SOMEHOW PARTNER HERE AND SAY, MAYBE OFFER A COUPON IF YOU STOP HERE? SOMETHING THAT CAN BRING THOSE DOLLARS HERE ECONOMICALLY RATHER THAN GOING ACROSS THE STREET OR GOING TO OUR SISTER CITIES. I LOVE OUR COLLABORATION REGIONALLY, BUT LET'S LOOK HOW WE CAN WORK THIS TOGETHER. THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER. YEAH. MADAM MAYOR, I JUST JUST LISTENING. I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE. SO AND FIRST OF ALL, WE DO RECOGNIZE THE, YOU KNOW, THE VALUE THAT TOURNAMENT ORGANIZERS BRING TO THE CITY. WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN THEY COME, PEOPLE, WHEN THEY PUT ON THESE EVENTS AND THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE COME TO DESOTO, WHETHER FROM, YOU KNOW, NEAR OR FAR, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WHAT I'M HEARING SOUNDS LIKE I'M HEARING TWO THINGS. I'M HEARING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE SPECIAL EVENTS POLICY, AND THEN WE ARE. THE OTHER PART THAT I'M HEARING IS SOME IS ECONOMIC INCENTIVES. YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE HOW DO WE PARTNER WITH THE PEOPLE WHO BRING THE TOURNAMENTS HERE TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE SOME SORT OF ECONOMIC RELIEF OR ECONOMIC INCENTIVE? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT. WE HAVEN'T REALLY DISCUSSED THAT IN THE PAST. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TAKE. TAKE A LOOK AT. MAY I RESPOND? MAY I RESPOND TO THE CITY MANAGER TO WHAT HE JUST SAID? YES. OKAY.

YOU ACTUALLY HEARD THREE THINGS BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE PUTTING THESE ON. YOU JUST SAID JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, MR. AGEE, THAT YOU GUYS HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE CURRENT ORGANIZERS. I WOULD EXPECT FROM THIS, HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT THAT WE WILL HAVE MEETINGS JUST LIKE THOSE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE PRIVATE ORGANIZERS, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO, LIKE I SAID, THOSE PEOPLE LIVE IN DESOTO. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE NOT OVERLOOKING THEIR VALUE AND THEIR SUPPORT TO THE CITY AS WELL. SO I'M SAYING THREE THINGS. I'M SAYING CREATE THAT ROUNDTABLE FOR THAT PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE, EVEN IF IT'S WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF THE INTERNAL. IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. I'M JUST HOWEVER IT CAN BE DONE. AND THEN ALSO THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE, MAYBE SOME WAY TO PARTNER WITH THEM, JUST LIKE MY COLLEAGUE WAS EXPLAINING. DEPUTY MAYOR, WE HAD A COOL MEETING. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT. THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE BUSINESSES IN THE CITY,

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IT'S SOMETIMES IT'S NOT KNOWN THAT THE CITY JUST CAN'T USE DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY FOR ANY AND EVERYTHING. LIKE THERE ARE LEGALITIES THAT WE HAVE AROUND IN THE WAY THAT WE DISBURSE THOSE PARTICULAR FUNDS. AND BASED ON THE VERY LITTLE KNOWLEDGE I HAVE OF IT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SOME THINGS THAT WERE IN THE LEGISLATURE, THEY WERE NOT THEY WERE NOT PASSED IN TERMS OF THE WAY THAT GIVING US MORE FLEXIBILITY TO USE THE HOT FUNDS. CORRECT. AND IT REALLY HAS. I'M NO EXPERT EITHER, BUT IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH OUR COUNTY, SINCE WE RESIDE IN A COUNTY THAT IS ABOVE A MILLION PEOPLE, I BELIEVE WE'RE NO LONGER WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THE HOT TAX FOR YOUTH, YOUTH AND SPORTS TOURISM. SO WE CAN'T IMPROVE OUR FACILITIES, WE CAN'T MARKET TOURNAMENTS, AND TO BRING PEOPLE HERE WHEN IT COMES TO INCENTIVIZING BECAUSE OF HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO DALLAS AND FORT WORTH, WE'RE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS HOT FUNDS LIKE CITIES. WELL, OUTSIDE OF THAT, THAT THAT RADIUS. SO THAT THAT WOULD BE THE. SO THAT SAID, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER WAYS, RIGHT? IF WE CHOOSE TO INCENTIVIZE, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER WAYS AND KNOW THAT IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL. IT'S THE LAW, RIGHT, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN AND WHAT WE CANNOT DO. AND SO WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT PRIVATE EVENTS, RIGHT? PRIVATE EVENT ORGANIZERS THAT ARE HOSTING AND UTILIZING OUR FACILITIES. IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN IF I WANT TO RENT THE BLUEBONNET ROOM, RIGHT, AND HAVE MY EVENT IN THERE AND CHARGE PEOPLE TO GET IN RIGHT. PRIVATE EVENTS, HAVING A ONE STOP SHOP WHERE THERE'S ONE PROCESS THAT EVERYBODY GOES THROUGH, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW BIG OR HOW SMALL THE EVENT IS, WE HAVE ONE PATHWAY THAT EVERYBODY WALKS DOWN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCESS IS FAIR, TRANSPARENT, AND EQUITABLE, AND EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME ACCESS TO WHATEVER RESOURCES AND EVERYBODY THAT NEEDS TO BE AT THE TABLE, CITY STAFF WISE, IS AT THE TABLE. AND ONE LAST THING, MR. CAMERON. ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO PULL OUT OF THAT, THOUGH, IN TERMS OF THE ONE STOP SHOP, IS MORE TRANSPARENCY AROUND HOW SAFETY IS IN TERMS OF SAFETY. SO MEANING HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE REQUIRED, RIGHT. WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A FORMULA. WHAT IS THAT FORMULA? RIGHT. AND HAVING THAT FORMULA PUBLISHED SO THAT AGAIN, THERE'S NOT EVEN THE THE PERCEPTION THAT THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT'S BEING DONE FOR ONE ORGANIZATION THAT'S NOT BEING DONE FOR THE OTHER ORGANIZATION AND EMBEDDING THAT WITHIN THAT ONE STOP SHOP. SO THAT, AGAIN, EVERYTHING IS ON TOP OF THE TABLE IN TERMS OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED. AND SO ONCE THAT ORGANIZER HAS EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED, IT IS THEN UP TO THEM TO SAY, OKAY, OUR BUDGET MEETS THIS, WE CAN DO THESE OR WE CAN'T. AND WHAT OTHER ALTERNATIVES DO WE HAVE TO APPEAL THOSE THINGS IN TERMS OF WHAT MAY BE NEEDED? AND SO WE I'VE, I'VE, I STAND FOR THAT AND I'M WITH MY COLLEAGUES ON THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T CONFLATE EVERYTHING TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL THE SAME THINGS. THERE ARE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT GROUPS, DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, DIFFERENT TIERS. WE HAVE. YES. MR. CAMERON SO, YEAH, MADAM MAYOR, WHAT YOU SAID WAS BASICALLY WHAT I WANTED TO ADD WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT JUST THE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT TYPES OF, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PRIVATE VERSUS THE PUBLIC AND NOT NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT WHEN WE, WHEN WE SIT DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, BOTH SIDES CLEARLY. SO YOU SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT APPLIES TO TO WHOM. AND THE

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COUNCIL, ARE YOU ALL IN FAVOR OF ANOTHER ROUND OF QUESTIONS? ARE YOU ALL OKAY? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM IS A STATE LAW THAT REQUIRES POLICE AND SECURITY. OR IS IT DESOTO LAW

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I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS NOT WORKING. THANK YOU. CAN WE SCROLL DOWN ON THIS PLACE FOR AI DATA? BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND HOW MANY EXTRA PEOPLE CAME INTO OUR CITY ON THE WEEKEND. ALMOST 20,000 ADDITIONAL FOLKS CAME INTO DESOTO. AM I CORRECT? IN ONE

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I'M SORRY. THAT WAS I'M SORRY. CAN I GET THE MICROPHONE? THAT WAS TOTAL VISITS. OKAY. THAT WAS TOTAL VISITS PER THOSE FIVE DAYS. BUT 12,000 OF THOSE ARE VISITORS, MEANING THEY'RE COMING FROM SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN DESOTO. SO 12000 PEOPLE BESIDES OUR DESOTO PEOPLE, 19 TOTAL. BUT 12000 WERE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. ALMOST A FIFTH OF OUR CURRENT POPULATION CAME IN IN ONE WEEKEND. AND IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DATA IS SAYING. THIS IS THE DATA THAT CAME FROM THE PLACE, THE AI THAT YOU STARTED YOUR PRESENTATION ON SATURDAY. WE HAD 8400 PEOPLE COME THROUGH THE CITY OF DESOTO. OKAY. AND THEN ON, ON, ON, ON FRIDAY, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 4000. AND THEN ON SUNDAY IT WAS ANOTHER 6000. SO IT, IT TOTALED THIS 19,000. SO IT WAS, IT WAS IT WAS VERY IN DAYS, THE SLOWER DAYS WAS ON FRIDAY BECAUSE IT GOT STARTED LATE IN THE DAY. COUNCIL MEMBER. SO THIS WAS BASED ON AN EVENT, NOT DAY TO DAY FOR THE CORRECT. CORRECT. I, I ASKED HIM TO, TO ASK THE PLACE BASED ON COURTESY MCCOWAN PARK AND THIS EVENT, THE ACTUAL. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF MY QUESTION.

OH, I'M SORRY, THE POINT OF MY QUESTION IS ABOUT WHAT THE CHIEF IS SAYING IN TERMS OF THE FACT THAT IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN, RIGHT, EVEN WITH SECURITY, WE KNOW THAT POLICE CAN'T DO CERTAIN FUNCTIONS. SO THE SECURITY IS THERE. HOWEVER, IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN IN THE EVENT SOMETHING HAPPENS, THEY STILL HAVE TO CALL DESOTO PD REGARDLESS. AND SO THE THE NECESSITY WHETHER WE AGREE ON HOW MANY IT IS OR NOT. RIGHT. THE RATIONALE BEHIND THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT PLACING THAT ADDITIONAL BURDEN TO RESPOND ON OUR PATROL.

THAT'S HAPPENING THEN, SO THAT IT DOES NOT TAKE AWAY FROM OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY. IS THAT WHAT I'M IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING TO BE THE RATIONALE? YES. MADAM MAYOR, YOU'RE YOU'RE CORRECT. AND YOU POINTED IT OUT. THE SECURITY PERSONNEL AND PUBLIC SAFETY PERFORM DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS AT THESE EVENTS. SECURITY PERSONNEL CAN CAN WARN FOLKS BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE EVENT, THEY CAN LOOK IN BAGS. WE DO NOT DO THAT. WE'RE THERE FOR ENFORCEMENT, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, FOR TRAFFIC. SO AND AND YOU KNOW, ANOTHER THING LET ME ADD IS JUST THE CONCEPT OF MERE PRESENCE. I AT TIMES IT'S DIFFICULT TO QUANTIFY THE GOOD THAT WE'RE THAT WE ARE DOING SIMPLY BY BEING PRESENT AND BEING VISIBLE. THERE IS A DETERRENT FACTOR THERE. AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE TO NOTE WITH MCCOWAN PARK, THERE'S THERE HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ISSUES WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH THESE TOURNAMENTS THAT ARE BEING HOSTED AT MCCOWAN PARK, WITH THE TRAFFIC TRICKLING OVER INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO SOME OF THE EXTRA ENFORCEMENT AND THE TRAFFIC CONTROL IS BASED ON THE WAY THAT I UNDERSTOOD IT WHEN IT WAS SHARED WITH ME, IS TO ALSO HELP TO PREVENT THAT, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF WE HAD A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS THERE. WHEN WE HAVE THESE HUGE EVENTS AND PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND THEY'RE PARKING ON THEIR STREETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN FRONT OF IN FRONT OF HOMES. AND SO SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC CONTROL IS ALSO A PART OF, OF THAT CONCERN THERE. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I BELIEVE IN BEING FAIR, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE FAIR ON BOTH SIDES, RIGHT? WHETHER WE AGREE WITH HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE THERE, WHETHER. AND THAT'S WHY SPECIFICALLY WHY I ASKED FOR THE FORMULA THAT'S BEING USED TO DETERMINE THAT NEEDS TO BE TRANSPARENT AND IT NEEDS TO BE PUBLISHED AND NEEDS TO BE A VERY VISIBLE PART OF THE WHOLE PROCESS IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING A SPECIAL EVENTS ONE STOP SHOP, IT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR ON WHO QUALIFIES UNDER THE SPECIAL EVENTS PROCESS VERSUS WHO'S IN OUR YOUTH PARTNERSHIP PROCESS. THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR, BUT I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE THIS PERCEPTION THAT THERE'S NO RHYME OR REASON, RIGHT, FOR WHAT PD IS DOING. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME VERY SERIOUS CONCERNS WITH TRAFFIC AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THERE. AND SO I DON'T WANT IT TO BE THAT THERE'S NO RHYME OR REASON FOR WHY THEY FOR WHY THEY ARE THERE. LIKE I SAID, WE CAN DISAGREE ON HOW MANY AND ALL THE THINGS UNTIL WE SEE THE FORMULA AND THE RATIONALE BEHIND WHY THEY'RE BEING ASKED. AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR IT. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR AS WELL. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'LL BE OUR LAST COMMENT AND THEN WE'LL SUBMIT SOME EVERYTHING UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHIEF CHESNEY FOR PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION. I JUST WANT TO SAY WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. I THINK WE NEED TO GET THAT POLICY THAT YOU ALL HAVE AND MERGE IT. WE SHOULDN'T BE. IT SHOULDN'T BE A SEPARATE ONE. WE NEED TO ALL BE ON ONE ACCORD FOR ALL THE THINGS. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT SHOULDN'T BE WHERE YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. IT NEEDS TO BE VISIBLE. IT NEEDS TO BE READABLE. IT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, REACHABLE SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS AND THERE'S NO SECRET ABOUT ANYTHING GOING ON.

WE DON'T HAVE TO EXPECT ANY SURPRISES OR ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW AND

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MAKING CLARIFICATION BETWEEN WHAT THE CITY PARK CITY PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS ARE ALLOWED TO DO OR CAN DO, OR WHAT THOSE EXPECTATIONS ARE COMPARED TO WHAT THE PRIVATELY ORGANIZED EVENTS ARE ALLOWED TO DO. WE ALSO WANT TO ESTABLISH, SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ESTABLISH THAT ROUND TABLE THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CLEAR GUIDELINES AROUND THE TOURNAMENTS. WE TALKED ABOUT PUBLISHING THE FORMULA, MAKING SURE THE FORMULA IS READILY AVAILABLE AND UNDERSTOOD BY EVERYBODY SO THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FORMULA IS FOR HAVING POLICE PRESENCE AT THESE EVENTS, AND ENSURE THAT WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE POLICE SEIZE THE APPLICATIONS AND EVENTS FOR ALL APPLICATIONS, FOR ALL EVENTS, WHETHER IT'S CITY EVENTS OR OUR EVENTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THOSE, SO THAT EVERYBODY IS VIEWED CONSISTENTLY. AND THEN THE LAST THING I HAVE, MADAM MAYOR, WAS WE ALSO WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT INTERNAL PD POLICY TO ENSURE THAT IT IS CONSISTENT, APPLIED CONSISTENTLY ACROSS THE BOARD. AND SO AM I MISSING SOMETHING? YES. YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THE LIST. JUST THE LIST WAS WE ALSO HAD A ORDINANCE THAT WAS A BUDGETARY ORDINANCE. 4824 THAT WAS ON THE BOOKS AT ONE POINT THAT EXPIRED. I GET IT THAT IT EXPIRED, BUT THERE MAY BE NEED TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AND SEE IF WE CAN DO. IF YOU'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF SOME INCENTIVIZING FROM A POLICE PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE THAT THAT ORDINANCE WAS IN PLACE TO TAKE CARE OF THE POLICE IN THESE PARTICULAR SITUATIONS. NO. THAT'S INTERNAL. BUT YES, THAT THAT THAT ORDINANCE WAS IN PLACE. IT HAS EXPIRED. MAYBE WE NEED TO PUT THAT BACK IN PLACE.

I'M JUST ASKING. THE ORDINANCE WAS IN PLACE FOR TO PAY FOR POLICE PRESENCE AT YOUTH SPORTS.

IT WAS IF IT'S THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, THAT WAS NOT ACTUALLY WHAT THE ORDINANCE WAS REFERENCING. THAT ORDINANCE WAS ACTUALLY AMENDING THE BUDGET BECAUSE WE HAD WENT OVER THE CITY WAS WE WERE REIMBURSING OURSELVES ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE WE HAD PAID FOR YOUTH SPORTS IN THE POLICE PRESENCE THERE. SO IT WASN'T SAYING THAT THIS IS GOING TO INCENTIVIZE YOUTH SPORTS WITH THEIR SECURITY. IT WAS THE FACT THAT WE HAD WENT OVER BUDGET AND WE HAD TO DO AN AMENDMENT BY BY WAY OF ORDINANCE TO BE ABLE TO REFUND OR HOWEVER WE GOT THAT TO CATCH THE BUDGET UP BECAUSE THE CITY WAS PAYING FOR THOSE, AND WE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR THOSE. WE WERE GOING OVER ON YOUTH SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS, THE OVERAGE WAS CAUSED BY YOUTH SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS, SHOULD I SAY. OKAY. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. I STILL WOULD LIKE FOR US, IF WE CAN POSSIBLY LOOK AT BECAUSE I'M SAYING, AGAIN, I HEAR YOU. I UNDERSTAND POLICE IS IMPORTANT. I'M NOT SAYING YOU GUYS ARE NOT IMPORTANT, BUT IF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WANTING ARE SECURITY GUARDS, THEY'RE THE WANDING FOLKS. THEY'RE THE REQUIRED FOLKS THAT ARE IN ADDITION TO POLICE. I WOULD HOPE THAT THE CITY WOULD BE FAIR IN THE THE NECESSARY NEED FOR POLICE TO STAND AROUND AND WATCH THEM DOING THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO BECAUSE I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND BASED ON THE NUMBERS, THERE WAS 233 HOURS OF POLICE PRESENCE IN ADDITION TO THE SECURITY. AND I THINK THAT'S JUST EXCESSIVE. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US, THAT'S FINE. AND WE AND THAT'S UNDERSTOOD.

WE'LL HAVE OUR FINAL COMMENT FROM MR. CAMERON AND THEN WE'LL CALL FOR ADJOURNMENT. WELL, I DON'T HAVE A COMMENT. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MR. AGEE. THANK YOU. CHIEF.

AT THIS TIME COUNCIL, DOES THAT SUMMARIZE EVERYTHING THAT THE COUNCIL WILL BE LOOKING FOR WHEN WE REVISIT THIS ITEM? MR. CAMERON, DID YOU GIVE US KIND OF AN ETA ON WHEN WE'LL SEE IT AGAIN? YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO GET TOGETHER WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT THAT ARE VITAL TO THIS AND TALK ABOUT IT. SO GIVE US 30 DAYS, MAYOR. OKAY. ABOUT 30 DAYS AND WE'LL SEE IT AGAIN. IF NOT, WE'LL WE'LL HEAR YES WITH AN UPDATE. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. SECOND. THERE'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER PARKER. SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER NORTH TO ADJOURN COUNCIL. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE

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