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[A. CALL TO ORDER AND CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION]

[B. REGULAR SESSION AGENDA - CALL TO ORDER]

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EVERYBODY. IT IS 6 P.M. ON MAYOR RACHEL PROCTOR. AND TODAY IS TUESDAY, MAY 19TH. AND I WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE DESOTO CITY COUNCIL. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK OUR CITY SECRETARY IF SHE WILL GIVE US A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR RACHEL PROCTOR HERE, MAYOR PRO TEM CRYSTAL CHISM HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER KEN WATERS, COUNCIL MEMBER BRIAN WESLEY HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DEBORAH NORTH HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER LATISHA HUGHES HERE. THANK YOU. WE'LL HAVE THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA AT THIS TIME.

WE WILL HAVE THE SAFETY PROTOCOL STATEMENT BY FIRE CHIEF BRIAN SOUTHARD. GOOD EVENING. THANKFULLY, WE ARE THROUGH THE DANGEROUS STORMS THAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING THIS EVENING. WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE RAIN, BUT WEATHERMEN CAN BE WRONG. SO IN THE EVENT WE HAVE INCLEMENT WEATHER, WE WILL SHELTER INSIDE THIS BUILDING. WE WILL ACTUALLY BE SHELTERING INSIDE OUR HR AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICES. SO IF THAT HAPPENS, WE WILL ORDER YOU TO FOLLOW STAFF STAFFS ON THE FIRST TWO ROWS HERE. OR YOU CAN FOLLOW MYSELF OR CHIEF COSTA, AND WE WILL LEAD YOU TO WHERE YOU'LL NEED TO GO IN THE EVENT OF ANY OTHER EMERGENCY THAT WE NEED TO EXIT THE BUILDING, WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY EXIT TO MY RIGHT OR YOUR LEFT, OR YOU CAN GO BACK OUT THE SAME DOOR AS YOU CAME INTO TO YOUR RIGHT. IF YOU LEAVE THE BUILDING DUE TO AN EMERGENCY, WE ASK THAT YOU REMAIN OUTSIDE IN A SAFE PLACE UNTIL WE COME AND GET YOU AND LET YOU KNOW. IT'S CLEAR TO RETURN BACK TO THE MEETING. AND REMEMBER, SAFETY IS NO ACCIDENT. THANK YOU. CHIEF. AT THIS TIME WE HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. PLEASE. WE WILL NOW HAVE THE INVOCATION BY BILL OLSEN OF TRINITY CHURCH, IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY STUDENT AMBASSADOR HARMONY FLOOD OF DESOTO HIGH SCHOOL. WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND? SO, CONTINUING OUR SAFETY, WE WILL PRAY. LORD, THERE ARE MANY OF US THAT HAVE GATHERED HERE THIS EVENING WHO HAVE A TESTIMONY THAT TESTIFIES TO THIS. ONCE I WAS BLIND, I WAS LOST. BUT NOW I SEE. LORD, WE ASK YOU TO HELP US IN OUR SEEING THIS EVENING. SOMETIMES GOD WE SEE THROUGH OUR OWN TUNNEL VISIONS AND WE DON'T SEE TO OUR RIGHT, TO OUR LEFT OR BEHIND US. I PRAY IN THE NAME OF JESUS THAT THERE WILL BE SUCH AN ABILITY FOR US TO SEE OTHERS, TO SEE OUR POTENTIALS, TO SEE YOU, AND TO SEE US AS YOU SEE US. YOU SEE US BLESSED, YOU SEE US FAVORED, AND YOU SEE US, OH GOD, WITH GREAT POSSIBILITIES. SO, FATHER, WE COME TONIGHT AS THE CITY OF DE SOTO AND WE ASK YOU TO HELP US. OH GOD, TO SEE THE POSSIBILITIES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US. TO SEE THAT YOU'VE GONE BEFORE US. YOU'RE WITH US, YOU'RE BEHIND US. YOU'RE ALL AROUND US. SO, FATHER, I PRAY, OH GOD, THAT THERE WILL BE THE AGENDAS OF THE ONE THAT SEES US, THAT THERE WILL BE THE AGENDAS OF THE ONE THAT SEES OUR FUTURE. AND I PRAY GOD, IN THE NAME OF JESUS THAT WE WON'T MISS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING BECAUSE OF OUR SIGHT. GOD, HELP US TO SEE. HELP US TO BE SEEN AND HELP US TO SEE OTHERS AS YOU SEE THEM. WE ASK YOU FOR YOUR DIVINE GUIDANCE AND YOUR INSIGHT AND YOUR FORESIGHT OVER US. IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. AMEN. CAN EVERYBODY PUT THEIR HANDS ON THEIR CHEST? OKAY, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU, PASTOR OLSON, FOR THAT BEAUTIFUL PRAYER, THAT POWERFUL PRAYER. AND WE WANT TO GIVE IT UP FOR OUR STUDENT AMBASSADOR FOR THIS EVENING, MISS HARMONY FLOOD, WHO'S REPRESENTING DESOTO HIGH SCHOOL TODAY. LET'S PUT OUR HANDS TOGETHER. I'M GOING TO READ JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HER. HARMONY FLOOD IS A 16 YEAR OLD INCOMING SENIOR IN THE CLASS OF 2027 WHO EXEMPLIFIES LEADERSHIP, ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE AND SCHOOL SPIRIT. SHE CURRENTLY SERVES AS CAPTAIN OF THE DESOTO EAGLETS AND CLASS PRESIDENT FOR THE CLASS OF 2027, WHERE SHE LEADS WITH CONFIDENCE, DEDICATION, AND INTEGRITY. RANKED NUMBER 17

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IN HER CLASS. THAT'S IMPRESSIVE WITH AN OUTSTANDING GPA OF 4.8, HARMONY HAS CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATED A STRONG COMMITMENT TO ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT AND PERSONAL GROWTH.

IN HER ADDITION TO HER ACADEMIC SUCCESS, HARMONY IS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL HONOR SOCIETY AND TOP TEENS OF AMERICA, ORGANIZATIONS THAT REFLECT HER PASSION FOR SCHOLARSHIP, LEADERSHIP, SERVICE, AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. SHE WAS ALSO SELECTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PRESTIGIOUS DEBUTANTE TIER FOR THE ZETA THETA OMEGA CHAPTER OF ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA SORORITY, INCORPORATED THROUGH THE ARLINGTON FOUNDATION FOR EXCELLENCE IN EDUCATION, A HIGH HONOR THAT HIGHLIGHTS HER POISE, CHARACTER, AND DEDICATION TO EXCELLENCE BOTH ACADEMICALLY AND WITHIN HER COMMUNITY. KNOWN FOR HER DETERMINATION, GRACE, AND POSITIVE INFLUENCE ON THOSE AROUND HER, HARMONY CONTINUES TO LEAVE A LASTING IMPACT BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF THE CLASSROOM. AS SHE PREPARES FOR HER SENIOR YEAR, HARMONY REMAINS FOCUSED ON CONTINUING HER LEGACY OF LEADERSHIP AND EXCELLENCE WHILE INSPIRING OTHERS TO STRIVE FOR GREATNESS. WITH HER STRONG FAITH, AMBITION, AND UNWAVERING WORK ETHIC, SHE LOOKS FORWARD TO EMBRACING EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT THE FUTURE HOLDS WHILE MAKING HER FAMILY, SCHOOL, AND COMMUNITY PROUD. LET'S GIVE IT UP ONE MORE TIME FOR OUR STUDENT AMBASSADOR. HARMONY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE ANY WORDS TO SAY ON BEHALF OF THE STUDENT BODY AT DESOTO HIGH SCHOOL? YES, MA'AM. I AM EXTREMELY THANKFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I AM READY TO WORK HARD AND CONTINUE TO HAVE A GREAT YEAR AND CONTINUE TO SHOW MY DEDICATION TO DESOTO AND CONTINUE TO BE A LEADER. THANK YOU. GREAT. STAY RIGHT THERE. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME PHOTOS AND I HAVE SOME GOODIES FOR YOU. OKAY? YES, MA'AM. AND BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT YOU YOU MAY SPEAK ON ANY ITEM ON AGENDA. ALL WE ASK IS THAT YOU FILL OUT A CARD. SO OUR STUDENT AMBASSADOR IS GOING TO GO OVER TO THE TABLE MOMENTARILY TO ASSIST. IF YOU NEED HELP WITH FILLING OUT A CARD FOR THIS EVENING. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

SURE. MOM. ARE YOU KIDDING? I HAVEN'T GRADUATED TO. THE LIGHTS GETTING IN THE WAY THERE. ONE, TWO.

[C. PRESENTATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS]

AT THIS TIME. WE HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, PLEASE. NEXT, WE WILL HAVE PRESENTATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS. OUR FIRST PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATION WILL BE TO HONOR BUILDING SAFETY MONTH. MAKING A PRESENTATION IS COUNCIL MEMBER DEBORAH KNAUF TO BUILDING OFFICIAL ANDREW LIPSCOMB AND THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AHMED OKC.

WELL, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. DID YOU ALL HAVE TO SWIM IN? I'M GLAD WE HAVE THE RAIN, BUT I'M GLAD TO SEE EVERYONE HERE MADE IT SAFELY. THIS IS AN HONOR TO PRESENT THE PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING, AS I WOULD READ AS FOLLOWS. WHEREAS DURING BUILDING SAFETY MONTH, WE RECOGNIZE THE STRENGTH AND GROWTH OF THE CITY OF DESOTO DEPENDS ON THE SAFETY AND RESILIENCE OF OUR HOMES, BUILDINGS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND WHEREAS, THIS SAFETY IS ACHIEVED THROUGH THE DEDICATION OF BUILDING SAFETY AND FIRE PREVENTION OFFICIALS, ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, BUILDERS AND TRADESPEOPLE WHO WORK YEAR ROUND TO ENSURE SAFE CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE STANDARDS. AND WHEREAS MODERN BUILDING CODES PLAY A CRITICAL ROLE IN PROTECTING THE PUBLIC FROM HAZARDS SUCH AS FIRES, FLOODS, SEVERE WEATHER AND OTHER NATURAL DISASTERS. AND WHEREAS, THE ADOPTION AND

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ENFORCEMENT OF UP TO DATE BUILDING CODES HAVE ENSURED STRUCTURES ARE BUILT TO WITHSTAND EVOLVING RISK AND SUPPORT, LONG TERM COMMUNITY RESILIENCE. AND WHEREAS, BUILDING SAFETY MONTH, SPONSORED BY THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL, RAISES AWARENESS OF THE ESSENTIAL ROLE CODE, OFFICIALS AND BUILDING PROFESSIONALS PLAY IN SAFEGUARDING OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS, THE 2026 THEME BUILT TO LAST ENCOURAGES ALL RESIDENTS TO PROMOTE BUILDING SAFETY AND RESILIENCE IN THEIR HOMES AND THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. NOW, THEREFORE, I, RACHEL PROCTOR, BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DESOTO, TEXAS, DALLAS COUNTY, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 2026 AS NATIONAL BUILDING SAFETY MONTH IN THE IN THE CITY OF DESOTO, AND I ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN ACTIVITIES THAT PROMOTE BUILDING SAFETY AWARENESS AND HELP CREATE A SAFER, MORE RESILIENT COMMUNITY. IN WITNESS THEREOF. I HAVE SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF DESOTO TO BE A FIX. THIS 19TH DAY OF MAY 2026, RACHEL PROCTOR, MAYOR SO FINE. LOUIS AUBRY, CITY SECRETARY. LET'S GIVE THEM A HAND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SAY SOME WORDS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILWOMAN NORTH HERE. I'M STANDING NEXT TO OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL, MR. ANDREW LIPSCOMB, WHO JOINED THE CITY SIX MONTHS AGO. HE'S BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB. AND ALSO AALIYAH MORRISON AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE BUILDING INSPECTION TEAM THAT GOES OVER PERMITTING AND BUILDING INSPECTIONS. DO YOU WANT TO MENTION THAT AALIYAH WAS ACTUALLY THE EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR FOR OUR DEPARTMENT IN 2025? BUT I KNOW, ANDREW, YOU HAVE A SPEECH, SO PLEASE GO AHEAD. GO FORWARD. THANK YOU. MR. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER, STAFF AND GUESTS. IT'S AN HONOR TO RECOGNIZE BUILDING SAFETY MONTH AND DEDICATED PROFESSIONALS WHO WORK EVERY DAY TO PROTECT THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY. BUILDING SAFETY PROFESSIONALS PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN ENSURING OUR HOMES, BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS AND PUBLIC FACILITIES MEET ESTABLISHED SAFETY CODES AND STANDARDS THROUGH INSPECTIONS, PLAN REVIEWS, AND CUSTOMER SERVICE. THEY HELP PROTECT LIVES AND SUPPORT RESPONSIBLE GROWTH THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AS OUR CITY CONTINUES TO GROW, WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THE PROGRESS MADE THROUGH OUR ONE STOP SHOP OPERATION AND THE TRANSITION TO THE NEW E, P L PERMITTING SYSTEM, AND ALSO THE CONTINUED EFFORTS WORKING ON SUBSTANDARD BUILDING CASES WITH OUR AMAZING COMMISSIONERS AT THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION. THESE IMPROVEMENTS STRENGTHEN, EXCUSE ME, STRENGTHEN EFFICIENCY, PUBLIC SAFETY AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY LEADERSHIP FOR SUPPORTING BUILDING SAFETY INITIATIVES. AND THANK YOU TO OUR BUILDING SAFETY PROFESSIONALS FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE. PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING BUILDING SAFETY MONTH AND CELEBRATING THOSE WHO HELP KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE EVERY DAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL TAKE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. WE WILL NOW HAVE A PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION HONORING MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH. MAKING A PRESENTATION IS COUNCIL MEMBER LETITIA HUGHES TO THE MEMBERS OF THE DESOTO TEEN COUNCIL AND THE CARE TEAM.

GOOD EVENING DESOTO. ISN'T IT WONDERFUL TO SEE SO MANY YOUTH HERE TODAY? LET'S GIVE THEM A HAND. THEY CAME OUT IN THE RAIN AND THE STORM. WE ARE SO GLAD TO SEE YOU ALL TODAY. SO I WILL READ ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF DESOTO PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS MENTAL HEALTH IS AN ESSENTIAL COMPONENT OF OVERALL HEALTH AND WELL-BEING, AFFECTING HOW INDIVIDUALS THINK, FEEL, CONNECT WITH OTHERS, AND NAVIGATE DAILY LIFE. AND WHEREAS MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS ARE COMMON AND CAN AFFECT MENTAL HEALTH, REDUCE

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STIGMA, ENCOURAGES HEALTH INTERVENTION AND PROMOTES A MORE COMPASSIONATE AND INFORMED COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS, ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ALONG WITH SUPPORTIVE FAMILIES, SCHOOLS, WORKPLACES AND COMMUNITIES PLAY A CRITICAL ROLE IN PREVENTION, RECOVERY AND LONG TERM WELLNESS. AND WHEREAS FOSTERING OPEN DIALOG AND NORMALIZING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH STRENGTHENS RESILIENCE, BUILDS CONNECTION, AND HELPS ENSURE THAT NO ONE FEELS ALONE IN THEIR STRUGGLES. AND WHEREAS, IT IS THE SHARED RESPONSIBILITY OF RESIDENTS, ORGANIZATIONS AND INSTITUTIONS TO PROMOTE MENTAL WELLNESS, SUPPORT THOSE EXPERIENCING MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES, AND ADVOCATE FOR ACCESSIBLE AND EQUITABLE CARE FOR ALL. NOW, THEREFORE, I, RACHEL L PROCTOR, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DESOTO, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY 2026 AS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF DESOTO AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO PROMOTE MENTAL WELLNESS THROUGH EDUCATION, COMPASSION, UNDERSTANDING AND SUPPORT, AND TO WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD A HEALTHIER, STRONGER AND MORE RESILIENT COMMUNITY FOR ALL. IN WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF DESOTO, TEXAS TO BE AFFIXED THIS 19TH DAY OF MAY 2026. RACHEL L, MAYOR PROCTOR I'M SORRY, RACHEL PROCTOR, MAYOR. ATTEST. SOPHIE LOUIS AUBRY, CITY SECRETARY. AND LET'S GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE AGAIN, PLEASE. HELLO, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS IDRIS FLORA. I AM ONE OF OUR PRESIDENTS FOR THE COUNCIL. AND WITH MAY BEING MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ONE OF THE EVENTS THAT WE JUST RECENTLY HAD ON. I BELIEVE IT WAS MAY 2ND. WE HAD OUR TEENS UNPLUGGED, WHICH WAS A MENTAL HEALTH, PHYSICAL HEALTH AND FINANCIAL LITERACY SUMMIT WHERE TEENS FROM ALL OVER THE CITY OF DESOTO CAN COME OUT AND LEARN ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, PHYSICAL HEALTH, AND LIKE I SAID, FINANCIAL LITERACY AS WELL. AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WHY WE WERE SO FOCUSED ON BRINGING THIS EVENT BACK, BECAUSE WE HAD, I BELIEVE, TWO YEARS AGO AND WE WERE SO FOCUSED ON BRINGING IT BACK BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN IN OUR SCHOOLS AND IN OUR COMMUNITY THE EFFECT OF MENTAL HEALTH ON YOUTH AND TEENAGERS THAT ARE IN THE SAME CLASSROOMS AS US, IN THE SAME COMMUNAL SPACES AS US. SO WE SAW THE EFFECT THAT IT HAD ON OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BRING IT BACK AND REALLY FOCUS ON MENTAL HEALTH, ESPECIALLY OF ALL THE OTHER TOPICS. FOCUS ON MENTAL HEALTH AND THE EFFECTS IT HAS ON TEENAGERS OUR AGE. KIMBERLY BONNER WITH THE DESOTO CARE TEAM WANT TO JUST THANK COUNCIL FOR PROVIDING THIS PROCLAMATION. AND JUST TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW, THAT DESOTO CARE TEAM CONTINUES TO BE A SUPPORT FOR THE COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO MENTAL HEALTH. WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT NO PERSON WITHIN THE COMMUNITY FEELS ALONE, AND SO THERE'S NO WRONG WAY TO CONTACT US. IF YOU NEED TO CONTACT US, YOU CAN DO SO VIA OUR WEBSITE. BY CALLING, WE ALSO RESPOND DIRECTLY TO 911 CRISIS CALLS AS WELL THAT ARE INVOLVING MENTAL HEALTH. SO AND WE WORK WITH DESOTO ISD. SO I'M VERY PROUD TO SEE THE STUDENTS THAT ARE UP HERE. THE EARLIER WE CAN START TEACHING AND ADVOCATING FOR MENTAL HEALTH, THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE CITIZENS, YOUNG PEOPLE WHO GROW UP TO BE ADULTS, WHO UNDERSTAND HOW MENTAL HEALTH WORK, AND THEY CAN ASSIST THEIR. WHAT AM I LOOKING FOR? THERE YOU GO, COLLEAGUES. AND SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS PROCLAMATION. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE. WE WILL NOW HAVE A PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATION HONORING NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK. MAKING A PRESENTATION IS MAYOR PRO TEM CRYSTAL CHISHOLM TO DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AMID OKC OPERATIONS MANAGER WADE WILLIAMS AND THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF DESOTO PUBLIC WORKS TEAM. HEY, DESOTO, HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING THIS MORNING? THIS

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EVENING? THAT'S WONDERFUL. BUT Y'ALL DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD A NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.

Y'ALL COME ON IN. DO Y'ALL LIKE SAFE STREETS? YOU ALL LIKE SAFE BUILDINGS, SAFE BRIDGES. WELL, THESE GUYS BEHIND US MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS FOR US DAY IN AND DAY OUT. AND THEY'RE LED BY NONE OTHER THAN MR. AL CASEY. AND WE'RE SO EXCITED TO HAVE HIM A PART OF THE CITY OF DESOTO FAMILY. SO I WILL READ THE PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR IN RECOGNITION OF THIS WEEK. WHEREAS, PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES AND SERVICES THAT ARE VITAL, THAT ARE VITAL IMPORTANCE OF US AS INABILITY AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES AND TO PUBLIC HEALTH, HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELL-BEING OF PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF DESOTO. AND WHEREAS THESE INFRASTRUCTURES, FACILITIES AND SERVICES COULD NOT BE PROVIDED WITHOUT DEDICATED EFFORTS OF PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE ENGINEERS, MANAGERS AND EMPLOYEES AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT AND PRIVATE SECTOR WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REBUILDING AND IMPROVING AND PROTECTING OUR NATION'S TRANSPORTATION, WATER SUPPLY, WATER TREATMENT AND SOLID WASTE SYSTEMS, PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND OTHER STRUCTURES AND FACILITIES ESSENTIAL FOR OUR CITIZENS. AND WHEREAS IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST OF CITIZENS, CIVIC LEADERS AND CHILDREN IN THE CITY OF DESOTO TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE OF AND MAINTAIN AN ONGOING INTEREST AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC WORKS AND PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAMS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE COMMUNITIES. AND WHEREAS, THE YEAR 2026 MARKS THE 66TH ANNUAL NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, SPONSORED BY AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION, BE IT NOW, NOW. THEREFORE, I, RACHEL L PROCTOR, DO HEREBY DESIGNATE THE WEEK OF MAY 17TH THROUGH THE 23RD 2026 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN THE CITY OF DESOTO. I URGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION AND THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES IN ACTIVITIES, EVENTS AND CEREMONIES DESIGNATED TO PAY TRIBUTE TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS, ENGINEERS, MANAGERS AND EMPLOYEES AND TO RECOGNIZE THE SUBSTANTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS THEY MAKE TO PROTECTING OUR NATIONAL HEALTH, SAFETY AND ADVANCING QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL IT WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF DESOTO TO BE AFFIXED THIS 19TH DAY OF MAY 2026. THIS IS SIGNED BY MAYOR RACHEL L PROCTOR ATTEST. SO FINE. LOUIS AUBRY, CITY SECRETARY. MR. AL CASEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE WORDS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, YOU DO THAT AND I'LL PASS THESE OUT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MAYOR PRO TEM CHISHOLM, ANOTHER GREAT TEAM AT THE CITY OF DESOTO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. I LOOK AT THESE GUYS IN IN I'M SO PROUD OF EACH ONE OF YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO ON EVERY DAY, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR RESPONSE TO THE WINTER STORM, WHEN WE GOT TO ENJOY THE TIME OR, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF STAYING WITH OUR FAMILIES AND YOU WERE ON THE STREETS KEEPING US SAFE. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU. AND I WANTED TO THANK EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. I'M GOING TO ASK MR. WADE WILLIAMS, OUR OPERATIONS MANAGER, TO COME FORWARD FOR A SPEECH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER AND GUEST IS HONORED TO RECOGNIZE NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK AND THE DEDICATED PROFESSIONALS WHO KEEP OUR CITY RUNNING EVERY DAY.

PUBLIC WORKS MAINTAINS ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT IMPACT EVERY RESIDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE, INCLUDING STREETS, SIDEWALKS, DRAINAGE, SANITATION, TRAFFIC OPERATIONS AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. MUCH OF THIS WORK HAPPENS BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT IT IS CRITICAL TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE, CLEAN AND CONNECTED. I'M PROUD TO SHARE THAT OUR TEAM HAS COMPLETED 93% OF OUR STREET AND TRAFFIC SERVICE REQUESTS, INCLUDING POTHOLES AND PAVEMENT REPAIRS, WITHIN AN AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME OF THREE DAYS. THAT IS SEVEN DAYS FASTER THAN OUR TEN DAY GOAL, WHICH IS A TRUE ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR ALL THE STAFF. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE

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THEIR OUTSTANDING RESPONSE DURING THE RECENT WINTER STORM, WHEN CREWS WORKED AROUND THE CLOCK TO CLEAR ROADS AND KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THANKING OUR PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS FOR THEIR DEDICATION AND SERVICE AND HAPPY NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET IN HERE AND GET A PICTURE. OUT HERE. ALL RIGHT. MAYBE SOME OF Y'ALL TO DOUBLE UP. BECAUSE OTHERWISE I'M NOT GOING TO GET EVERYBODY.

I WANT TO GET EVERYBODY BUT ANYONE. THAT'S YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS TIME WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, PLEASE. WE WILL NOW DISCUSS OPTIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027 I AND X TAX RATE STABILITY STABILIZATION STABILIZATION. MAKING AN INTRODUCTION IS FINANCE DIRECTOR LAKITA SUTTON.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. THIS EVENING'S INS TAX RATE DISCUSSION IS A COMPONENT OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, WE DO HAVE AN ESTABLISHED CIP PROGRAM WITH FUTURE CAPITAL FINANCING NEEDS.

OUR LAST BOND SALE OCCURRED IN FISCAL YEAR 2025, AND THAT BOND SALE WAS PUT IN PLACE TO COVER TWO FISCAL YEARS. SO WE ARE NOW AT A PLACE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027, WHERE WE ARE GETTING RAMPED UP FOR ANOTHER BOND SALE TO CONTINUE WITH OUR CIP FINANCING, WITH US NOT HAVING A BOND SALE IN FISCAL YEAR 2026 THAT EQUATED TO A LOWER TAX RATE. LOWER TAX RATE IS EQUATED TO LESS BOND PAYMENTS. BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE A BOND SALE, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE PAYMENTS TO ACCOUNT FOR FOR OUR TAX RATE CALCULATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027, IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THE CITY MAINTAIN ITS CURRENT TAX RATE TO AVOID FLUCTUATIONS IN THE TOTAL TAX RATE DURING FUTURE BUDGET YEARS, AND TO CONTINUE PROGRESS WITH THE CURRENT CIP. THIS EVENING WE HAVE MISTER ANDRE AYALA, WHO IS HERE FROM HILLTOP SECURITIES, A PART OF OUR ESTEEMED FINANCIAL ADVISOR TEAM, AND HE IS GOING TO ASSIST THE COUNCIL WITH EXPLORING OPTIONS FOR MAINTAINING OUR DEBT SERVICE RATE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL BRING FORWARD MISTER AYALA. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL ANDRE WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES. MY PARTNER JIM SABONIS IS HERE TONIGHT AS WELL. WITH US. WE'RE BOTH REPRESENTING THE CITY AS FINANCIAL ADVISORS. SO THIS EVENING WE WERE BROUGHT HERE TO TALK ABOUT YOUR INS TAX RATE OR IN OTHER WORDS YOUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE. SO WHAT IS THAT. THAT IS THE TAX RATE THAT A CITY WOULD ADOPT TO PAY FOR ITS DEBT. SO CITIES IN TEXAS GENERALLY HAVE TWO TAX RATES, ONE WHICH IS CALLED THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE. THE MONEY GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND. THAT'S FOR GENERAL PURPOSES, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF THE CITY. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE THAT IS SOLELY FOR THE REPAYMENT OF BONDS THAT WERE SOLD AND SECURED BY SUCH REVENUES. SO WE'RE GOING TO ISOLATE THIS DISCUSSION TO ONLY TALK ABOUT THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE FOR THE CITY. SO WHAT WHAT CAN YOU USE THAT TAX RATE FOR. WELL YOU CAN PAY FOR GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. YOU CAN PAY FOR CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION THAT HAVE A PROPERTY TAX RATE SECURITY. YOU CAN PAY FOR TAX ZONES THAT ARE SECURED THE SAME WAY OR PUBLIC PROPERTY FINANCE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS. SOMETIMES CITIES ISSUE A NOTE FOR EQUIPMENT AND THEY SECURE THOSE NOTES WITH DEBT SERVICE PROPERTY TAX RATES. SO RIGHT NOW, OUR DEBT SERVICE PROPERTY TAX RATE AS ADOPTED LAST YEAR IS 0.1, 1825 OR 18 $0.25. AND THAT IS WHAT DALLAS COUNTY HAS.

AND THEY LOOK AT THE ASSESSED VALUES. THEY MULTIPLY IT TIMES THAT TAX RATE AND IT PRODUCES A REVENUE STREAM. THE REVENUE STREAM THAT IS THAT IS PRODUCED IS USED TO PAY FOR THE CITY'S DEBT. NOW THAT TAX RATE COUNCIL, THE MAYOR, IS CALCULATED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. SO IT IS NOT A STATIC NUMBER. SO EVERY YEAR YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET, YOUR UPCOMING DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS, AND THEN DETERMINE WHAT THAT TAX RATE SHOULD BE TO PAY FOR THE CITY'S DEBT. SO

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WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS WE RECEIVED THE PRELIMINARY TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUATION FROM DALLAS CAT AS OF THE END OF APRIL. THEY ARE TELLING US THAT PRELIMINARILY AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL THIS NUMBER MAY DROP AS A RESULT OF PROTEST IS ROUGHLY $9 BILLION. SO 9,000,000,040 YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THE NUMBER IN THERE IS THE BIG NUMBERS, 9 MILLION, $9 BILLION. THAT REPRESENTS A POTENTIAL 13% INCREASE FROM WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR. SO LAST YEAR, THE CITY'S PROPERTIES WERE ASSESSED AT CLOSE TO 8 BILLION. SO IT WAS SEVEN, NINE, NINE NINE AND CHANGE. SO THAT IS AGAIN A 13% INCREASE. IF NOTHING HAPPENS AND YOU KEEP YOUR BUDGET THE SAME WAY YOU HAVE BEEN DOING IT, YOU ARE NOT ISSUING BONUSES HERE. THEN YOUR TAX RATE COULD THEORETICALLY GO DOWN BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE UPCOMING DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS THAT YOU HAVE. SO IF THIS VALUE HOLDS AT $9 BILLION, YOUR TAX RATE COULD. YOUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE COULD THEORETICALLY DROP FROM 1820 $0.05 TO ABOUT 12.21 CENTS.

THAT'S ABOUT A SIX CENT REDUCTION ON THE PROPERTY TAX RATE. NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER HERE IS THAT THE CITY HAS A LONG TERM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. SO YOU HAVE BEEN ON A YEAR BY YEAR BASIS LOOKING AT THAT AS PART OF YOUR BUDGET, AND NOT EVERY YEAR, BUT SOME OF THE YEARS THAT YOU'VE BEEN HERE. YOU HAVE ISSUED BONDS. SO THE CITY HAS ISSUED BONDS BACK IN FISCAL YEAR 2025. YOU'RE NOT ISSUING BONDS THIS YEAR, BUT THEN YOU WILL UNDERTAKE ANOTHER PROGRAM IN 2027. AND THEN THE CIP PREDICATES THIS AS AN ANNUAL BOND ISSUANCE TO FUND SOME OF YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT YOU HAVE, MOSTLY CONSISTING OF STREETS, ROADS, SOME ALLEYS AND PARK PROJECTS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE HERE. JUST KEEP IN MIND $141 MILLION CIP BETWEEN FISCAL YEAR 2027 AND FISCAL YEAR 2034.

YOU MAY RECALL THAT LAST YEAR WE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, MODEL THAT FOR YOU SO THAT YOUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT CAN UNDERSTAND HOW TO MANAGE THE TAX RATE PROCESS, THE DEBT PAYMENT, WHEN TO ISSUE BONDS, HOW TO STRUCTURE THEM, ETC. SO WE WERE ASKED TO PRESENT A NUMBER OF OPTIONS TO, TO MANAGE THAT TAX RATE. SO WHAT CAN YOU DO HERE. SO WE ISOLATED THIS INTO FOUR OPTIONS. ONE WOULD BE DO NOTHING. JUST LET THE TAX RATE GO DOWN. THE SECOND OPTION WOULD BE TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THE INTERNAL TRANSFERS THAT THE CITY HAS HISTORICALLY USED TO BUY DOWN THE DEBT SERVICE. NOW WHY HASN'T HE DONE THAT? BECAUSE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE FUNDED ARE WHAT WE CONSIDER SELF-SUPPORTING. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THE ARC PROJECT. THE ARC PROJECT IS PARTIALLY SUPPORTED BY THE D, P, D, C, SO THEY PUT A TRANSFER IN THERE THAT BUYS DOWN THE DEBT PAYMENT. YOU HAVE UTILITY PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN FINANCED WITH CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. SO THE UTILITY FUND PITCHES IN AND THEY MAKE A TRANSFER TO BUY DOWN THE DEBT SERVICE. AND LAST YEAR, SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL THAT WE SOLD A BOND THAT INCLUDED SOME DRAINAGE COMPONENTS. SO WE HAVE A SMALL TRANSFER FROM OUR DRAINAGE FUND. AND THEN THE NANCE FARM PROJECT THAT HAS A SMALL TRANSFER FROM OUR HOTEL MOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUND. SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR TRANSFERS THAT GO INTO THE BUDGET HERE TO BUY DOWN THE PAYMENT, CONSEQUENTLY, BUY DOWN THAT DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE 1825 IS THE RESULT OF THOSE TRANSFERS. THE NET AMOUNT. THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE TO MAINTAIN YOUR TAX RATE AT AROUND 1825. YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS MAY MOVE ONCE WE GET THE CERTIFIED VALUES IN JULY.

AND THAT CAN ALLOW YOU TO PAY DOWN DEBT. SO BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TAX COLLECTIONS, YOU CAN UTILIZE THAT MONEY TO PAY DEBT IN ADVANCE OF MATURITY. SO YOU WOULDN'T BE PAYING THAT DEBT THIS SUMMER. WHAT YOU WOULD BE DOING THIS SUMMER IS JUST ACT ON IT AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ANNOUNCE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PAY SO MANY BONDS, YOU HAVE CERTIFIED VALUES, YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR REVENUE WILL BE. AND IN JANUARY IS WHEN YOU COLLECT THE BULK OF THE TAXES, AND THEN IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH, YOU EXERCISE THE OPTION OF PAYING DOWN THOSE BONDS. SO YOU TAKE THOSE BONDS AWAY FROM THE INVESTOR AND YOU REDUCE YOUR DEBT LOAD AND AT THE SAME TIME SAVE INTEREST EXPENSE. THE FOURTH OPTION THAT HAS BEEN USED HERE ONCE IS TO ISSUE A SHORT TERM TAX NOTE. SO TAX NOTES CAN BE UP TO SEVEN YEARS IN MATURITY. SO YOU CAN ISSUE A TAX NOTE THAT GOES ONLY UP TO SEVEN YEARS. IN THIS CASE, THE STRATEGY WOULD BE IF YOU WERE TO CHOOSE THAT OPTION TO ISSUE A TAX NOTE IN THE SUMMERTIME THAT IS SECURED BY PROPERTY TAX REVENUES THAT ARE TO BE RECEIVED IN JANUARY, AND YOU DISCHARGE OR PAY OFF THE TAX NOTE IN FEBRUARY. SO THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY. YOU'RE YOU'RE FINANCING LONG TERM CAPITAL ASSETS WITH SHORT TERM DEBT. SO AT A VERY LOW INTEREST EXPENSE. BUT YOU HAVE TO ISSUE DEBT THIS YEAR. IF YOU WERE TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD. SO IF YOU WERE AGAIN, IF WE WERE TO DO NOTHING. SO WE JUST KEEP MOVING FORWARD. YOU DO YOUR TRANSFERS, YOU DON'T PAY DOWN ANY DEBT, YOU DON'T ISSUE A TAX NOTE, THEN YOUR TAX RATE SIMPLY GOES DOWN. SO IT COULD GO DOWN MAYBE TO 12.2 $0.05 IF THE VALUES HOLD AS PRESENTED BY DALLAS CAD. IF THOSE VALUES GO DOWN, THEN THE TAX RATE REDUCTION IS GOING TO BE NOT 12, 25, 12 $0.21. IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THAT BECAUSE THE VALUES ARE LOWER. NOW, WHAT IS THE ISSUE WITH THAT? THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS THAT THE NEXT TIME THAT YOU COME FORWARD WITH THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS, AND IF THERE

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IS NO GROWTH OR SUBSTANTIAL GROWTH IN THE TAX BASE, YOU MAY BE FORCED TO CONSIDER A TAX RATE INCREASE. SO YOUR TAX RATE WOULD GO FROM 1825 TO 12 THEORETICALLY, AND THEN UP TO WHATEVER NUMBER YOU NEED TO COVER THE ADDITIONAL DEBT. AND AS YOU KEEP MOVING FORWARD IN TIME, IF THE TAX BASE IS STATIC OR IT JUST SIMPLY DOESN'T GROW AS FAST, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE FORCED TO CONSIDER TAX RATE HIKES AS YOU GO DOWN THE PATH OF FUNDING YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. THE OTHER OPTION IS TO ELIMINATE TRANSFERS. SO WHAT DOES THAT DO? WHAT YOU CAN DO THERE IS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT $4.8 MILLION IN TRANSFERS TO BUY OUR OUR DEBT DOWN AND BRING OUR TAX RATE DOWN. SO WE HAVE ABOUT $1 MILLION FOR FROM PDC. WE HAVE $3.5 MILLION FROM THE UTILITY FUND, ABOUT 185 FROM DRAINAGE FUND AND A VERY SMALL TRANSFER OF 75,000 FROM THE HOT FUND, THE HOTEL MOTEL OCCUPANCY FUND. SO YOU COULD SAY, WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO TRANSFER THAT MONEY THIS YEAR, JUST A ONE YEAR ACTION. YOU DON'T TRANSFER THE MONEY AND YOU KEEP THE MONEY IN THOSE SPECIFIC FUNDS FOR ELIGIBLE PURPOSES. THOSE FUNDS CAN UTILIZE THE MONEY FOR. SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WOULD HAVE AN ADDITIONAL $3.5 MILLION IN THE UTILITY FUND. YOU CAN DO A PROJECT THERE, OR YOU CAN SIMPLY SAVE IT, YOU KNOW, AS, AS, AS A RAINY DAY FUND, WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO DO THERE. AND THE SAME WOULD BE FOR PDC HOT FUND AND DRAINAGE FUND THAT WILL ALLOW YOU THE MATHEMATICS IS SOMETHING WE HELP YOUR FINANCE STAFF WITH TO MAINTAIN YOUR TAX RATE AT AROUND 1825. COULD IT BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER? YES, BUT AT AROUND THAT NUMBER. SO YOU CAN KEEP GOING DOWN THE PATH OF FUNDING YOUR $141 MILLION CIP WITH NO TAX RATE IMPACT IN THE FUTURE. THE OTHER OPTION, COUNCIL AND MAYOR, WOULD BE TO PAY DOWN DEBT. SO YOU WOULD YOU WOULD KEEP THE TRANSFER. SO THE TRANSFERS WILL KEEP GOING, BUT YOU COLLECT THE SURPLUS INS, TAX DOLLARS AND PAY DOWN. IF THESE VALUES HOLD APPROXIMATELY $5.3 MILLION IN DEBT, YOU WOULD PAY THOSE IN ADVANCE OF WHEN THOSE BONDS MATURE. SO YOU TAKE THOSE BONDS AWAY FROM THE INVESTORS, AND YOU COULD THEORETICALLY SAVE ABOUT $730,000 IN FUTURE INTEREST EXPENSE. SO WHAT THIS DOES IS THAT YOU REDUCE YOUR DEBT LOAD, YOU DON'T ISSUE DEBT, YOU KEEP THE TRANSFERS AND YOU SAVE ON INTEREST, BUT YOU MAINTAIN YOUR TAX RATE AT AROUND 1825 TO BE ALL SET TO FUND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. AS YOU GO DOWN THIS ROAD BETWEEN 27 AND 34, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY MAPPED OUT. AND THEN THE LAST OPTION, COUNCIL, WOULD BE TO KEEP THE TRANSFERS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PREPAY DEBT IN THIS SCENARIO, BUT YOU WOULD USE THE SURPLUS COLLECTIONS TO PAY THIS TAX OUT.

SO YOU WOULD ISSUE A TAX NOTE. LET'S SAY $5.1 MILLION IS WHAT WE CALCULATED BASED ON THE PRELIMINARY VALUES FROM DALLAS CAD, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO DO ONE OF TWO THINGS WITH THAT TAX LOAD. YOU CAN FUND A PAY AS YOU GO PROJECT PAY AS YOU GO, MEANING THAT WITHIN YOUR GENERAL BUDGET, YOU MAY HAVE PROJECTS THAT YOU JUST PAY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. SO INSTEAD OF DOING THAT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, YOU WOULD DO IT OUT OF THE INS FUND. WITH THIS TAX NOTE, YOU ISSUE THE TAX NOTE IN THE SUMMER. IN THE SUMMERTIME, YOU LET IT SIT THERE UNTIL YOU COLLECT YOUR PROPERTY TAXES IN JANUARY, AND THEN IN FEBRUARY, YOU PAY IT OFF. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED BACK IN 2024. OR YOU CAN SAY, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A PORTION OF OUR LONG TERM CIP. SO THOSE WOULD BE 20 YEAR BONDS THAT WE NORMALLY HAVE HERE AND FUND THAT LITTLE PIECE FOR SIX MONTHS. SO AGAIN, YOU ISSUE THE TAX NOTE IN THE SUMMERTIME. YOU LET IT SIT UNTIL AROUND FEBRUARY. YOU ONLY PAY INTEREST FOR SIX MONTHS. AND THAT'S HOW YOU FUND ROUGHLY $5 MILLION OF YOUR LONG TERM CIP ON A SHORT TERM BASIS. SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. COUNCIL. I KNOW YOU PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS HERE. MY PARTNER JIM'S HERE AS WELL. SO HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN YOUR QUESTIONS AND ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU, MR. AYALA COUNCIL, WE DO HAVE THREE ADDITIONAL PRESENTATIONS FROM STAFF THAT ARE VERY COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATIONS.

AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS WILL NOT BE THE LAST TIME THAT WE SEE THIS. THIS WAS JUST TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF US SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN OUR DELIBERATIONS AND HOMEWORK AND PROCESSING ON THE OPTIONS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED TO US. SO WE WILL IMPLEMENT TWO MINUTE ROUNDS FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION FOR THESE. AND IF COUNCIL VOTES TO ADD ADDITIONAL ROUNDS, WE CAN DO SO AT THAT TIME. SO I DO SEE SOME LIGHTS, I THINK. LET ME SEE. I'M NOT SURE. I THINK MAYOR PRO TEM LIGHT WAS FIRST. OKAY, I'LL TAKE IT. MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS ITEM DOWN. I LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS AS AS I WAS STUDYING THIS LAST WEEK, I WAS THINKING SHORT TERM VERSUS LONG TERM. AND WHAT CAN YOU POLITICALLY TALK TO THE BEST AND IT MAY SOUND STRANGE, BUT THAT'S THE WAY I PUT IT IN MY HEAD. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO DO SOMETHING FOR ME THOUGH, ON OPTION THREE, WHERE WE REPAY THE DEBT. COULD YOU CONFIRM THE AMOUNT? BECAUSE I HAVE 730 ZERO ZERO $0 IN MY MIND FOR THE INTEREST. THAT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT IF WE REPAID IT BACK. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS THE

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ESTIMATED INTEREST SAVINGS. OKAY, OKAY. IF YOU GET RID OF ABOUT $5.3 MILLION OF BONDS.

OKAY, SO AS I OKAY, SO GREAT. THANK YOU. AND I WOULD SAY FOR ME. SO OPTION THREE TO ME CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW IS AT THE TOP. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW TO, TO DO SOMETHING THAT STRATEGICALLY CAN SET US UP LATER. AS YOU DISCUSSED, WE HAVE A SIP PROGRAM THAT GOES TO 2034, WHICH IS VERY LONG TERM. SO STRATEGICALLY, IF WE COULD DROP SOME DEBT TODAY AND KEEP EVERYTHING ELSE THE SAME, OUR TAX RATE, THAT NOT ONLY HELPS THE COUNCILS THAT COME BEFORE AFTER ME SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT TO SAY, HEY, YEAH, WE LOWERED YOUR RATE IN 2027, BUT WE'RE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A HUGE INCREASE. THAT'S A HARDER FIGHT TO, TO ME TO PLAY. AND IT FOR US, IT WOULD BE BETTER FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO PAY DOWN THAT DEBT. NUMBER TWO, MY OPTION WOULD BE ELIMINATING THE TRANSFERS. I SEE THAT AS A VERY STRATEGIC, LONG TERM WAY TO KEEP OUR FUTURE TAX RATE STABLE TO SOME EXTENT. AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN INCREASE OF FUND FUND DOLLARS THAT WE TYPICALLY HAVE ON NINE MONTHS ON AVERAGE. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT I HAVE POSITIONED AT THE VERY TOP FOR ME. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I I'M GOING TO JUST SPEAK TO WHERE I AM. I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH SOME RESIDENTS ABOUT THE INS AND TAX RATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT PEOPLE ASKED ME WAS, WHY DO WE HAVE SUCH HIGH TAXES HERE IN, IN DESOTO? AND I KNOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY WE DON'T HAVE HIGH TAXES, BUT DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE IN DESOTO, YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE HIGH TAXES. TO YOU, IT MAY BE YOUR LIVED EXPERIENCE. AND SO FROM YOUR FROM MY COMMUNITY COMMUNITIES LIVED EXPERIENCE, THEY'RE SAYING TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE GET RELIEF? AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OPTIONS. I'M LOOKING AT THE FOUR OPTIONS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT SAID THE IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTS. THAT'S WHERE MY FIRST MINDSET GOES TO.

AND WITH NUMBER ONE, THE DO NOTHING, YOU LOWER THE TAX BILL IMMEDIATELY OR IT MIGHT GET LOWERED BECAUSE ALL OF THIS IS REALLY ESTIMATED ESTIMATIONS, RIGHT. AND THEN TWO IS NO IMMEDIATE TAX CUT AT ALL. AND THEN THREE IS PREPAID. YOU KNOW NO IMMEDIATE TAX CUT. BUT IT SAVES ON THE INTEREST LONG TERM. AND THEN NUMBER FOUR IS NO IMMEDIATE TAX CUT. MORE CITY PROJECTS NOW. SO THE FIRST QUESTION I'M ASKING MY COMMUNITY AND I REALLY AM GOING TO ASK THEM RIGHT AFTER THIS CONVERSATION, IS WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT TO YOU? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE THINKING IN TERMS, I WANT TO HELP, I WANT TO HELP THE COMMUNITY SAVE TAXES. I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO I'D LOVE TO SAY SOME TAXES, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE ALSO MAD ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS TAKEN CARE OF. SO I'M, I'M KIND OF TORN BETWEEN THE LAST ONE AND THE FIRST ONE, JUST TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU, BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE MY COMMUNITY IS SAYING THEY ARE, BUT I KNOW WHAT THE CITY IS SAYING, WHERE WE NEED TO BE. AND SO IF I HAD TO PUT THE TWO THINGS ON THERE FOR ME, IT WOULD BE THOSE TWO. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME OTHER WAY THAT THIS CAN HAPPEN. I MEAN, I KNOW THESE ARE FOUR OPTIONS. I'M GLAD WE HAVE OPTIONS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT ANY OTHER WAY. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IF WE DID? YOU KNOW, A COMBINATION OF THESE? IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF THERE BEING A COMBINATION? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HUGHES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU COULD CLARIFY AGAIN THE ISSUANCE OF THE TAX NOTE, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. YOU MENTIONED PAYING AS WE GO AND THEN PAYING IT OFF IN SIX MONTHS. YES. THE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. YES. SO IF OUR PRELIMINARY VALUES FROM DALLAS APPRAISAL DISTRICT HOLD THE $9 BILLION, IF THAT HOLDS, THAT WOULD PUT YOU IN A POSITION TO PAY YOUR BONDS AS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED. YOU WILL KEEP THE TRANSFERS IN PLACE JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE SET UP AS A STRUCTURE. AND YOU WOULD HAVE AROUND $5.1 MILLION IN SURPLUS, SO YOU COULD FINANCE A ROUGHLY $5.1 MILLION PROJECT NOW AND PAY IT OFF IN SIX MONTHS. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ISSUE A SEVEN, TEN, 20 YEAR BOND FOR THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT. IT WOULD BE A PROJECT THAT YOU CAN FINANCE THIS SUMMER AND PAY OFF IN FEBRUARY, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT REVENUE STREAM COMING IN EARLY NEXT YEAR. POINT OF INFORMATION. THANK YOU. WE DIDN'T HEAR. I DIDN'T ACTUALLY HEAR YOUR QUESTION. CAN YOU REPEAT? I ASKED HIM TO CLARIFY WHAT HE MEANT BY OPTION FOUR. IF WE ISSUED A TAX NOTE AND WHAT THAT THE ADVANTAGE THAT WOULD BE.

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THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. NOW, MISS HUGHES, YOU. THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION WAS HOW DOES THAT HELP YOU? WELL, IT HELPS YOU ACCELERATE A PROJECT. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE. NOW, MOST OF OUR CITY CLIENTS THAT ARE BIG, LIKE DESOTO HAVE A PAY AS YOU GO PROGRAM. SO PROJECTS THAT YOU DON'T BOND, YOU DON'T BOND THOSE PROJECTS. YOU PAY FOR THOSE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, AND IT'S JUST PART OF YOUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET. YOU HAVE A CAPITAL OUTLAY LINE ITEM IN YOUR BUDGET, AND THERE'S A LIST OF THINGS THAT YOU FIND ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. YOU COULD, UNDER THIS SCENARIO, NOT DO THAT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS AND DO IT OUT OF THE TAX NOTE. SO ESSENTIALLY FINANCE THOSE CAPITAL OUTLAY PROJECTS IN YOUR GENERAL FUND WITH THE TAX NOTE. THAT'S ONE OPTION. THE SECOND OPTION, COUNCIL WITH A TAX NOTE WOULD BE THAT YOU LOOK AT YOUR $141 MILLION CIP AND YOU SAY, WHAT PIECE OF THIS CAN WE ACCELERATE NOW? LET'S SAY 5 MILLION OUT OF THE 140. CAN YOU ACCELERATE NOW INSTEAD OF AMORTIZING OR STRETCHING THE PAYMENT FOR 20 YEARS, YOU PAID IN SIX MONTHS. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. AND I KNOW THAT THIS THIS CONVERSATION IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE TAX RATE, BUT YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT INS WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT M AND O AT SOME POINT. SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO SAY ABOUT KEEPING IT EITHER CONSISTENT OR POSSIBLY SOME OF THE OPTIONS ARE GOING TO BE REDUCING IT. HOWEVER, WHAT IS THAT OR WHAT COULD THAT MEAN FOR THE OVERALL TAX RATE? BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN EVEN IF THIS EVEN IF THE INS REDUCES, RIGHT. THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE M AND O OR THE OVERALL TAX RATE WILL GO DOWN BECAUSE THE M AND O COULD ACTUALLY GO UP TO BALANCES THE WAY THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IT. BUT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A QUESTION THAT CAN BE ANSWERED. THAT'S A LOT OF HYPOTHETICALS RIGHT NOW. BUT DOES THAT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE OVERALL TAX RATE WAS STILL REDUCED OR STAYS THE SAME. BOTH THINGS COULD HAPPEN. SO IN SIMPLE TERMS, WHAT THE STATE WANTS CITIES TO DO IS TO DO TWO SETS OF CALCULATIONS. ONE IS TO CALCULATE YOUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS GIVEN US.

BOTTOM LINE YOUR TAX INTAKE ON THE GENERAL FUND CANNOT EXCEED 3.5% MORE THAN WHAT YOU TAXED LAST YEAR. IF YOUR VALUES REAPPRAISED AT MORE THAN 3.5% THIS YEAR, YOU'RE GOING TO BE FORCED TO DROP YOUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX. THE SECOND CALCULATION IS THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE THAT IS NOT SUBJECT TO A CAP. IT IS ONLY SUBJECT TO WHATEVER YOUR OBLIGATION IS THE FOLLOWING YEAR. SO IF YOU AGAIN, IF YOU DO NOTHING, THEN YOU HAVE TO DROP IT. AND IF YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN IT AT AROUND THE SAME LEVEL, YOU HAVE TO AGAIN, ELIMINATE THE TRANSFERS, ISSUE NEW DEBT OR PAY DOWN DEBT. THANK YOU. AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS WE HAVE A NEW COUNCIL PERSON, COUNCIL MEMBER, WESLEY, BUT ALSO FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. GENERAL PUBLIC IS ME. I AM GENERAL PUBLIC AS WELL. COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THESE FOUR OPTIONS IN MORE PLAINER LANGUAGE SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF WHAT THEY MEAN IN TERMS OF AGAIN, AND I THINK WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, ESPECIALLY FOR THE TAXPAYERS, I TELL RESIDENTS WE GET THE SAME TAX BILL Y'ALL GET, RIGHT. SO ANYTHING WE DECIDE HERE, WE'RE IMPACTED BY IT AS WELL. SO UNDERSTANDING IT IN VERY PLAIN LANGUAGE IN TERMS OF HOW IT COULD IMPACT THE TAXPAYER WHEN THE FINAL RATE IS DETERMINED. SURE. SO OPTION ONE DO NOTHING.

TAXPAYER SAVES MONEY. THEY PAY LESS TAXES. WHAT IS THE BAD THING ABOUT THAT? YOU MAY BE FORCED TO RAISE THE TAX RATE IN THE FUTURE IF THE CITY DECIDES TO FUND THE TIP. OPTION ONE.

OPTION TWO INTERNALLY, YOU FREE UP MONEY IN YOUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS TO HOT DRAINAGE AND PARKS CORPORATION, AND YOU CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR SOMETHING ELSE. BUT THE TAXPAYER DOES NOT GET A REDUCED TAX BILL. OPTION THREE YOU CAN PAY DOWN DEBT AND SAVE ABOUT $700,000 IN FUTURE INTEREST EXPENSE. THAT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT THE TAXPAYER DOES NOT GET A RELIEF IN THE TAX BILL. NUMBER FOUR, YOU CAN ACCELERATE PROJECTS OR PAY OFF PROJECTS THAT WERE GOING TO BE 20 YEARS IN SIX MONTHS. WHAT IS THE DOWNSIDE FOR THE TAXPAYER? THEY GET THE SAME TAX BILL AS LAST YEAR. AND HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ON OPTIONS TWO, THREE AND FOUR, THERE'S NO TAX INCREASE EITHER. CORRECT. NO REDUCTION ALSO NO INCREASE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. OKAY. SO A FLAT TAX RATE AT AROUND THAT NUMBER. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. AYALA. I SEE NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS. WE DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING MORE INTO THIS AND DELIBERATING OVER THESE THIS CONVERSATION. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING TONIGHT. GOOD TO SEE YOU MR. SABONIS. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. WE WILL NOW HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE UPDATES FOR THE ROADWAY PAVEMENT CONDITION SURVEY AND MULTI YEAR ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE

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MANAGEMENT PLAN. I'M P FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO MAKING A PRESENTATION IS DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AHMED AL CASEY. GOOD EVENING MADAM MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND MR. CITY MANAGER. TONIGHT WE HAVE THE UPDATE ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT PLAN. THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE I'M P DEVELOPMENT PROCESS ALONG WITH THE DATA THAT WE COLLECTED, TREATMENT TYPES THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE AND THE BUDGET SCENARIOS. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE, ON JANUARY 6TH, WE PROVIDED AN UPDATE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT PLAN. I'M P, AND WE ENGAGED WITH THE CONSULTANT TO COLLECT ALL THE DATA THAT WE REQUIRED. WE PROVIDED AN UPDATE TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND BASED ON YOUR INPUT, WE COLLECTED MORE DATA AND WORKED WITH THE CONSULTANT ON ON THE NEXT STEPS OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROGRAM. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE CHANGE. WE COLLECTED ALL THE DATA WE HAVE THE PCI NUMBERS FOR ALL ALLEYS AND ROADWAYS IN THE CITY. AND WHAT WE NEED TONIGHT, WE NEED THE DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL ON ONE OF THE BUDGET SCENARIOS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT. THIS SLIDE IS JUST GOING TO SHOW YOU A GLIMPSE FROM THE FUTURE. WHERE ARE WE HEADING TO? WHAT WOULD BE THE OUTCOME OR THE END RESULT OF THIS PROGRAM? IF WE WERE ABLE TO SELECT A BUDGET SCENARIO TONIGHT, THEN WE ALL COME BACK IN AUGUST. AND WITH THE PROJECT LISTS FOR OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS, 27, 28, 29, AND THEN IT WILL JUST LOOK LIKE THAT ONE NUMBER OF PROJECT PROJECT ID, THE PLACE THE PROJECT IS IN, TYPE OF PROJECT LOCATION, THE TYPE OF TREATMENT, THE YEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PROJECT IN, ALONG WITH THE COST ESTIMATE AND STATUS. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO REPORT STATUS ON DASHBOARDS. YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME THAT WE MAKE PROGRESS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, HOW DO WE GET TO THAT? HOW DO WE GET TO THE PROJECT LIST? THERE ARE MAINLY THREE INPUTS. WE HAVE THE DATA MAINLY THE PCI. AND WE ALSO HAVE THE TREATMENT TYPE AND COST ESTIMATES AND THE BUDGET SCENARIOS. IF WE PLUG IN ALL THOSE DIFFERENT INPUTS, THE OUTPUT WILL BE THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT PLAN. THE I'M P THE PROJECT LISTS OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. OVER THE NEXT SLIDES, I'M GOING TO COVER THE PCI AND THE OTHER DATA, AND THEN I'LL GO TO THE SECOND INPUT, THE TREATMENT TYPE, AND THEN TO THE THIRD INPUT THE BUDGET SCENARIO. OKAY.

THE PCI, AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR CONSOLE, THE AVERAGE PCI IS 71 IN THE CITY OF DESOTO FOR ROADWAYS, 61 FOR ALLEY 71 CONSIDERS PRETTY GOOD. AND I THINK ON AVERAGE, WE SAY OVER 65 IS CONSIDERED A REALLY GOOD RESULT. I'M GOING TO DIVE INTO MORE DETAILS OVER THE NEXT TWO SLIDES. AS YOU COULD SEE HERE ON THE ROADWAY SIDE, THE DISTRIBUTION, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREEN AND BLUE, THAT'S THE 3723. THOSE COMBINED ARE OVER 75%, WHICH IS A GOOD TO EXCELLENT CONDITION. SO OVER 75% OF THE ROADWAYS ARE ACTUALLY FROM GOOD TO EXCELLENT CONDITIONS. NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE RED ONES, POOR TO VERY POOR, THAT'S A 9%. I WANT YOU TO KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT THAT NUMBER AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. SAME SLIDE FOR ALLEYS. GIVE YOU AN IDEA ABOUT OUR ALLEYS TO OBVIOUSLY 61. SO IT'S LESS THAN 71 WITH POOR TO VERY POOR, 12% COMPARES TO ROADWAYS. YOU SEE ROADWAYS, 9%, ALLEYS 12%. TALKING ABOUT THE INPUT. THE OTHER INPUT BESIDES THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX, THE PCI. NOW WE HAVE THE OTHER INPUT, WHICH IS THE DRAINAGE ISSUES. SO OUR TEAM DID VISIT EVERY SINGLE ALLEY IN THE CITY AFTER RAIN EVENTS AND COLLECTED DATA. 13% OF OUR ALLEYS HAS DRAINAGE ISSUES, SO WE'LL INCORPORATE A FACTOR FOR THOSE.

AND THEN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST MEETING. NOW MAYOR PRO TEM YOU BROUGHT THIS UP. SO WE COLLECTED THIS INFORMATION. DOCTOR WILLIAMS HAS BEEN AMAZING. AND THIS IS JUST SHOWING YOU THE HISTORICAL UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES AND WILL BE THAT YOU WILL BE ASSIGNED SOME SCORES IN THE IN THE TOTAL SCORING. AS YOU CAN

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SEE HERE, TWO, TWO DIFFERENT TOTAL SCORING. ON THE LEFT SIDE ROADWAYS, YOU HAVE 70% FOR PCI STREETS, CLASSIFICATION, COORDINATION WITH UTILITIES. AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THE DRAINAGE ISSUES. AND SAME THING, THE EQUITY OR, YOU KNOW, EQUITY OR HUG REQUIREMENT. THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE OTHER CITIES, ESPECIALLY SOUTHWEST LANCASTER, CEDAR HILL AND DUNCANVILLE. AS YOU SEE, DESOTO IS WELL IN THE RANGE COMPARED TO THE OTHER CITIES. WE HAVE 72 FOR FORT WORTH AND 70 FOR CEDAR HILL, 73 FOR DUNCANVILLE AND LANCASTER 62, AND WE ARE AT 71. NOW. TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER INPUT. SO THE FIRST INPUT WAS THE DATA.

THE OTHER INPUT IS THE TYPE OF TREATMENTS. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF TREATMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO FOR THE PROJECT LISTS AND INCLUDES PRESERVATION, REPAIR, REHABILITATION, CONSTRUCTION, THREE DIFFERENT TREATMENTS. AND THEN THAT'S THE THIRD INPUT, WHICH IS THE BUDGET SCENARIOS. WE TRIED TO GO WITH THREE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. THE FIRST ONE IS ACTUALLY THE STATUS QUO. THE FIRST, THE CURRENT ONE THAT WE HAVE FROM 2025, WHICH IS 4 MILLION DIVIDED OVER ROADWAYS AND ALLEYS, THREE FOR ROADWAYS, ONE FOR ALLEY. THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE HAVE FROM 2025 THAT IS ALREADY APPROVED AND WILL BE PLUGGED INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT PLAN. WHAT WE'RE SAYING, THE OTHER SCENARIO, SCENARIO NUMBER TWO, INSTEAD OF DOING THE 4 MILLION, WE COULD DO 7 MILLION, 7 MILLION INSTEAD. AND INSTEAD OF THREE PLUS ONE WOULD BE FIVE PLUS TWO. IN THE OTHER SCENARIO. THE THIRD SCENARIO, JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU MORE THAN ONE OPTION, IS A 10 MILLION PER YEAR OVER THREE YEARS. SO 10 MILLION EVERY YEAR.

SO TOTAL 30, 30 MILLION. AND THAT'S SEVEN FOR FOR ROADWAYS OR STREETS AND THREE FOR ALLEYS.

NOW, IF WE PUT THE ALL THE INPUTS TOGETHER, DATA TREATMENTS AND ALSO BUDGETS, HOW OUR ROADWAYS WILL LOOK LIKE AFTER THREE YEARS, IF WE PUT THOSE INVESTMENTS IN. SO IF, IF WE GO WITH THE STATUS QUO, WHICH IS 4 MILLION EVERY YEAR FOR THREE YEARS, THAT'S $12 MILLION. OUR ROADWAY, OUR AVERAGE PCI WILL DROP TO 70 FROM 71 TO 70. IF WE DO THE 7 MILLION, OUR AVERAGE PCI WILL REMAIN THE SAME. IF WE DO THE 10 MILLION, OUR AVERAGE PCI WILL BE 72. KIND OF DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, I KNOW, BUT HERE'S THE KIND OF THE OTHER ANALYSIS WE TALKED ABOUT THE 9% POOR TO VERY POOR. SO WHEN WE DO THIS, WHEN WE PUT MORE MONEY, THE POOR TO VERY POOR, WHICH WE CALL THE BACKLOG WILL DROP A LOT OF TIME. WE SOMETIMES WE HEAR COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS WHILE WE HAVE ISSUES WITH OUR ROADWAYS OR CEDAR HILL HAS BETTER ROADWAYS AND ALL. WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PCI WERE THE SAME. BUT IF WE COMPARE THE BACKLOG, OUR BACKLOG IS 9% COMPARES TO CEDAR HILL, WHICH IS 4.7% OR COMPARES TO DUNCANVILLE IS 7%. AND THEN LANCASTER, WE SAW 35%. SO A LOT OF THOSE BUDGETS WILL GO TOWARD THE, YOU KNOW, THE POOR TO VERY POOR, WHICH IS WHAT WE CALL THE BACKLOG. SO AT THE END OF THE THREE YEARS, LET'S SAY IF WE GO WITH OPTION TWO, THEN WE WILL HAVE THE SAME AVERAGE PCI WITH 7%, BUT OUR BACKLOG WILL BE REDUCED. SAME THING FOR ALICE. ALICE LOOKS A LOT BETTER. SO IF WE GO WITH THE STATUS QUO 1 MILLION, WE WILL IMPROVE THE AVERAGE PCI BY 1% OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. AND THEN IF WE DO THE OPTION TWO, THEN THAT WOULD BE 4% IN OPTION THREE WOULD BE PLUS SEVEN. THIS IS JUST KIND OF TO PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER WITH THE SCENARIO SCENARIO ONE, TWO, THREE WITH THE TOTAL BUDGETS. IF YOU LOOK AT SCENARIO NUMBER ONE, TOTAL BUDGET IS 4 MILLION. AND THEN HOW IS IT DIVIDED THREE PLUS ONE, THREE, FOUR STREETS AND ONE FOR ALLEYS. AND THEN THE STREET. PCI AFTER THREE YEARS AND THEN THE PCI, OBVIOUSLY OPTION ONE IS STABLE. AND THEN OPTION TWO AND THREE WILL SEE IMPROVEMENTS. IN COUNCIL. IF WE WERE ABLE TO SELECT A SCENARIO TODAY, THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR THIRD INPUT. WE WILL DEVELOP

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THE LIST OF PROJECTS. WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU IN AUGUST FOR FINAL REVIEW AND ADOPTION.

OTHERWISE IS OBVIOUSLY WE'LL HAVE TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, PUSH THE PROJECT TO SEPTEMBER, AUGUST. WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE COUNCIL TO PROVIDE YOU WITH GUIDANCE ON SELECTING AN ACTUAL OPTION OF THE THREE THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TODAY, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO COUNCIL, FRAME YOUR QUESTIONS AROUND AROUND THAT, KNOWING THAT STAFF IS LOOKING FOR A CONSENSUS ON ONE OF THESE OPTIONS SO THAT WE DON'T DELAY THE TIMELINE. NOW, MR. CASEY, IF WE IF WE CAN ARRIVE AT A AT A SELECTION TONIGHT. HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE TIMELINE? SO IF WE CANNOT SELECT A BUDGET SCENARIO TONIGHT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO OUR CONSULTANT TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT, PAY THEM MORE MONEY, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE OUT OF SCOPE. AND THEN LOOK AT THE TIMELINE, COLLECT MORE DATA, COME BACK TO YOU, DO ANOTHER PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE WE'LL HAVE TO MAYBE IT WILL BE PUSHED MAYBE FROM AUGUST TO, LET'S SAY OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER. DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT, MR. MAYOR PRO TEM? THANK YOU. MR. CASEY. I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU BEEN WITH US A YEAR YET? ACTUALLY, TODAY MARKS MY MY ONE YEAR WITH MY ONE YEAR, ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY. AND WHEN I TELL YOU, LIKE EVERY MONTH, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE COMING WITH A NEW PROCESS, A NEW PROGRAM FOR US TO LOOK AT AND EVALUATE, WHICH MEANS THAT WORK IS HAPPENING IN OUR CITY AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. I APPRECIATE THAT WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS PCI, PCI, AND EVALUATION OF THE BUDGET, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHY WE DID NOT EVALUATE THIS AT A 5 OR 10 YEAR. LIKE WE'RE DOING LIKE OTHER THINGS IN THE CITY, LIKE THE PLANNING, THE CITY PLANNING TO ALIGN THAT. AND IF WE DID, WOULD THAT IMPACT? AND I'M SURE IT WOULD. RIGHT. BUT WOULD THAT IMPACT THE PCI NEGATIVELY? WOULD IT GO DOWN IF YOU PLAN, IF WE PLANNED IT OUT AT A 5 OR 10, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT.

AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS THAT I BELIEVE IS ON SLIDE TWO, YOU HAD A LIST OF PROJECTS FROM 1 TO 6, AND YOU HAD THE PLACES NEXT TO THEM. I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE OUR PLACE THAT ASSIGNMENT, RIGHT? BUT THERE'S NOT ACTUALLY A PLACE ONE. SO I, AND WHEN I SAW THAT PLACE ONE EXISTED, BUT PLACE SIX WASN'T ON THAT LIST. MY, MY ANTENNA SPIKED UP. SO I WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU CAN CONFIRM THAT. AND THEN THE 13% THAT YOU ALL SHOW OF THE ALLEYWAYS THAT HAVE NEED DRAINAGE ISSUES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ALLEYWAY RECONSTRUCTION. AS WE ARE IMPROVING OUR ALLEYWAY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT TODAY.

RIGHT? ARE THOSE DRAINAGE ISSUES BEING FIXED CURRENTLY, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO. STILL TALK TO? AND THEN LASTLY, THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION. THE THE HISTORICALLY. UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY THAT YOU CALLED OUT, HOW IS THAT IMPACTING THE EQUITY OF THIS PROGRAM AT ALL? IF IT IS IMPACTING IT? I SAW THE PERCENTAGES THAT YOU HAD EVERYTHING BASED UPON, BUT AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THAT WHERE DOES THAT LIE IN THIS? UNDERSTOOD. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MAYOR PRO TEM AND YES, YOU HAD A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. YOU KNOW, IT'S FIVE YEARS OR SEVEN YEARS. TYPICALLY, CITIES DO LIKE 3 OR 5 YEARS WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT PLAN. THE ONE THAT I DID IN DALLAS WAS FIVE YEARS. BUT DALLAS IS MUCH BIGGER. WE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS INTERNALLY, AND THEN WE CAME TO DECIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, THREE YEARS MIGHT HELP TO SORT OF BETTER AND KEEP US MORE FLEXIBLE. SO THEN, YOU KNOW, USUALLY WE DO THE PCI STUDY EVERY 2 OR 3 YEARS. SO THEN, YOU KNOW, AFTER TWO YEARS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO ANOTHER STUDY AND THEN WE COME UP WITH LIKE EITHER 3 OR 5 YEARS. YOU CAN BE WRONG IN BOTH, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S A PREFERENCE. WE DO HAVE THE LIST FOR FIVE YEARS FROM OUR CONSULTANTS. YOU KNOW, YOUR FOUR AND FIVE WILL KEEP THAT IN OUR OFFICE. LET'S SAY IF WE HAVE SOME SAVINGS, THEN WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS. IN REGARD TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION, MISS KAREN, IF WE COULD PUT THE PRESENTATION UP FOR THIS SLIDE, SLIDE NUMBER TWO FOR LIST OF PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE DISTRICT DISTRICT PLACES. SO ONE IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S NOT ON THE MAP. SO IT'S BASICALLY ASSIGNED TO THE DISTRICT PLACES. SO WHICH WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY FROM PLACE 2 TO 7. SO THIS IS HOW WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PUT THAT IN. SO JUST AND JUST TO PROVIDE YOU MORE INFORMATION. SO THEN WHEN WE BRING THE LIST OF PROJECTS, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO

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TELL HOW MANY PROJECTS ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PLACE TWO OR 4 OR 5 AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IN REGARD TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION, QUESTION NUMBER THREE, FOR THE DRAINAGE ISSUES. SO WHAT THE PROGRAM WILL SOFTWARE WILL DO, THE SOFTWARE WILL ASSIGN 20% MORE PRIORITIES TO ALLEYS WITH A DRAINAGE ISSUE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAVE A PCI OF 50 FOR ALLEY A AND ALLEY B, WHICH ONE ARE WE GOING TO FIX? WE'RE GOING TO FIX THE ALLEY WITH THE DRAINAGE ISSUE.

SO THE SOFTWARE WILL KNOW THE SOFTWARE IS NOT LOOKING AT THE PCI ONLY SOFTWARE IS LOOKING AT THE PCI AND THE OTHER DATA. SO IF WE HAPPEN TO HAVE A ALLEY, LET'S SAY 60%, WHICH IS KIND OF GOOD, GOOD CONDITION. AND THEN THE OTHER ALLEY IS, IS 70. BUT, BUT HAS EVEN ALTHOUGH IT'S BETTER, BUT HAS SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES, THEN THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE WANT TO PRIORITIZE AND FIX FIRST IN REGARD TO QUESTION NUMBER FOUR, THE EQUITY THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME, WE GAVE 10% FOR STREETS AND ALLEYS. SO SAME EXAMPLE WE HAVE, LET'S SAY STREET A, STREET B, THEY HAVE, LET'S SAY EXACT SAME CONDITIONS, SAME PCI, SAME STREET CLASSIFICATION, SAME COORDINATION WITH UTILITIES. WHICH ONE ARE WE GOING TO FIX FIRST? THE PRIORITY WILL GO TO THE ONE IN THE COMMUNITIES, HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. GOTCHA. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER PARKER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. AND BEFORE I GO FURTHER, ON SLIDE NUMBER FOUR, THE ONE WITH THE ACTUAL PROJECTS. NOW, THOSE ARE REAL PROJECTS, RIGHT? I KNOW THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY COMPLETE BECAUSE I SEE THAT LAST BULLET ON PAGE FOUR. SLIDE FOUR, SLIDE NUMBER FOUR. ACTUAL NO. SO THIS SLIDE IS JUST LIKE WHAT I CALL THE GLIMPSE FROM THE FUTURE. JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA THIS, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'M SAYING, MAJOR ARTERIAL A, BUT WHEN I COME BACK IN AUGUST, I'LL TELL YOU THIS IS PAULK FROM PARKERVILLE TO BELTLINE, FOR INSTANCE. SO I'LL BE VERY MORE SPECIFIC. THE LOCATION WILL BE EXACT. WE CALL IT THE SEGMENT. AND WE HAVE A SEGMENT ID, BUT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TELL WHERE THE LOCATION IS. AND WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC FACING MAP WHERE YOU COULD JUST GO TO THE MAP, TYPE IN THE PROJECT ID, AND YOU WILL GO TO THE PROJECT AND KNOW THE TYPE OF TREATMENT AND THE YEAR THAT, THE YEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO TREAT THAT, THAT PROJECT. OKAY. SO JUST FOR CLARITY, JUST SO THAT I MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR THESE ARE OR ARE NOT REAL, EVEN THOUGH THE NAMES MIGHT BE DIFFERENT. ARE THEY REAL PROJECTS? NO, THEY'RE NOT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL FUNDING, DOES IT RELY ON WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN CHANGING OUR, YOU KNOW, CPI, CIP OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT OR PLANNING? DOES THIS GO INTO THAT? SO BASED ON THAT DECISION, DOES THIS DECISION HINGE ON THESE? DO THEY HINGE ON EACH OTHER? LET ME SAY THAT.

EXACTLY. SO THAT WOULD BE A GUIDE FOR COUNCIL AND FOR STAFF TO DECIDE THE FUTURE BUDGET. SO YOU KNOW WE'RE DOING THE BUDGET FOR 2027. WE'RE DOING THE BOND FOR 2027. RIGHT. SO DO WE PUT IN FOR 4 MILLION OR 7,000,010 MILLION THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IS THIS KIND OF BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE COLLECTED AND THE ANALYSIS THAT WE DID, WE CAN GUIDE THE BUDGET FOR 2027.

WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER WHAT DOES IT MEAN IF WE PUT 4 MILLION IN ALLEYS AND STREETS, WHAT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE PUT 7 MILLION? SO LET'S SAY LET'S SAY WE SELECT SCENARIO NUMBER TWO, FOR INSTANCE, FOR TONIGHT, WHICH IS THE 7 MILLION. WELL, 7 MILLION WILL BE OUR GUIDE FOR 2027. SO WHEN WE GO BACK AND COMPLETE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BUDGET WITH FINANCE, THEN WE, WE, WE TALK ABOUT 7 MILLION AS A GUIDE. AND THEN BUT WE'RE SAYING THE 7 MILLION OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. RIGHT. BUT BUT THIS IS NOT OUR APPROVAL FOR THE THREE YEARS. THIS IS JUST A GUIDANCE TO GUIDE THE FUTURE BUDGET. SO THEN LET'S SAY IN 2028, WE COME BACK AND WE TRY TO DO THE SAME THING. WELL, WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA THAT IF WE CONTINUE OUR PLAN AND PUT 7 MILLION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN AVERAGE PCI OF THIS AND A BACKLOG OF THIS AFTER AT THE END OF THE THREE YEARS. OKAY, SO THE 7 MILLION WAS FOR THREE YEARS, MEANING 7 MILLION EACH YEAR. EXACTLY. OKAY. SO 2121 TOTAL. YES. OKAY. AND SO MY LAST QUESTION IS, IS WHERE ARE WE NOW? HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING A YEAR NOW? RIGHT NOW WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE BOND THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR FOR 2026, IT'S $4 MILLION, THREE FOR STREETS AND ONE FOR

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ALLEYS. AND IT'S DIVIDED OVER CONCRETE AND ASPHALT. SO WHICH IS ONE OF THE SCENARIOS, SCENARIO NUMBER ONE IS THE STATUS QUO, WHICH IS A 4 MILLION. OKAY. THANK YOU, I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER NORTH. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, MR. CASEY, FOR THIS PRESENTATION. IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE HOW OUR CITY IS INVESTING IN TECHNOLOGY TO STREAMLINE AND BE PROFICIENT IN OUR WORK. IF WE COULD TURN TO SLIDE 13, PLEASE.

AND THIS IS REGARDING THE PAVEMENT TREATMENT STRATEGIES. AND THE REASON I'M HAVING US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, BECAUSE AS I HEAR RESIDENTS, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND STREET REPAIRS, THE FIRST QUESTION OR CONCERN IS WHY WE SELECT ASPHALT AS A MATERIAL AS WE REPAIR THE STREETS. SO TAKING A LOOK AT THIS SLIDE, COULD YOU UNPACK THIS FOR US TO SIMPLIFY HOW THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE AND HOW WE SELECT ASPHALT VERSUS CONCRETE FOR OUR RESIDENTS HERE. AND ALSO, IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT SCENARIO THREE, THAT WOULD BE THE 30 MILLION. AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, THAT WAS, I BELIEVE, 141 MILLION. IS THAT CORRECT THAT WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT IT? WOULD THAT BE INCLUSIVE IN MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE FUNDING AVAILABLE? IF WE DECIDE TO GO WITH ONE OF THESE SCENARIOS TONIGHT? OKAY. SO IN REGARD TO SLIDE NUMBER 13, WHICH IS THE TYPE OF TREATMENT, AND THIS IS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE WHAT WE FOUND IN THE PAST, THE CONCRETE PRICES WITH ASPHALT, THE GAP IS NOT REALLY HIGH. SO BUT THE ASPHALT WILL GIVE YOU 15 YEARS LIFETIME AND AND THEN CONCRETE WILL GIVE YOU 30 YEARS.

SO ANY TIME WE DO RECONSTRUCTION OR RE WIDENING, WE DO CONCRETE, FOR EXAMPLE, WESTMORLAND PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO GO UNDER CONSTRUCTION NEXT WEEK. WESTMORLAND PROJECT IS AN ASPHALT ROAD. BUT WHEN WE WERE GOING TO RECONSTRUCT IT AND REBUILD IT, WE'RE GOING TO DO CONCRETE INSTEAD, THOUGH THIS PLAN IS MORE FOR MANAGING THE CURRENT ROADWAYS, MEANING IF YOU HAVE AN ASPHALT, THIS IS NOT LIKE MAINLY RECONSTRUCTION, LIKE THE OUTCOME OF THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE ANOTHER WESTMORLAND PROJECT, BUT THE OUTCOME IS OF THIS IS GOING TO GO TO OUR COMMUNITIES AND THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES. LET'S SAY YOU HAVE AN ASPHALT ROAD WITH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CRACKS. SO WHAT WILL YOU DO? ONE OF THE TREATMENTS IS WE DO A MILL AND OVERLAY. PCI WILL BE GOOD. WE WILL PRESERVE, WE WILL PROLONG THE LIFE OF THE ASPHALT FOR THE FUTURE. IF WE HAVE IT ON A MASTER PLAN AND COME BACK, WE'LL DO THE RECONSTRUCTION WITH CONCRETE. SO A LOT OF. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE A LOT OF PRESERVATIONS TOO, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T PRESERVE OUR ROAD TODAY, IT WILL BE A REPAIR OR REHABILITATION TOMORROW, IF I MAY USE THIS ANALOGY IS LIKE, OKAY, IF YOU DON'T CLEAN YOUR TEETH, I DON'T CLEAN MY TEETH, THEN I WOULD HAVE TO DO A ROOT CANAL. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE MAIN IDEA NOW, FINANCE, MAYBE, MAYBE FINANCE CAN EXPAND OR IF NEEDED ON, ON YOUR SECOND QUESTION, BUT THAT THIS SCENARIO IS TONIGHT AND WHATEVER YOU SELECT, IT WILL BE A GUIDE FOR FINANCE AS WELL TO PLUG THAT IN. SO WHEN WE GO BACK, WE CAN WE CAN HAVE ALL THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS OUR DEBT. YOU KNOW, IF WE PUT 7 MILLION AS GUIDE, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO WE'LL HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH FINANCE TEAM. SURE. AND I CAN WITHDRAW THE SECOND QUESTION FOR FURTHER FOR A SEPARATE DISCUSSION AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET. BUT THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION BECAUSE AGAIN, AS RESIDENTS, I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE APPROACHING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING INFORMED DECISIONS AND PRESERVING THE LIFE OR EXTENDING THE LIFE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, NORTH CITY MANAGER. DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YEAH. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE SECOND QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. INFRASTRUCTURE IS TWO TYPES. ONE IS MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS WHAT MR. CASEY IS TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS THE I'M P AND AND ANY OTHER REHAB PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE. AND ONE IS CAPITAL PROGRAMING, WHICH IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY GO OUT THERE FOR GEO BONDS OR REVENUE BONDS OR ANYTHING ELSE. IT IS IMPORTANT TO BALANCE THOSE TWO TYPES OF INFRASTRUCTURE ACTIVITIES. ONE IS TYPICALLY PAY AS YOU GO, WHICH MEANS THAT IT'S PART OF OUR GENERAL FUND, AND WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL HOW MUCH WE SPEND ON THAT ONE. THE OTHER

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ONE IS WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND BOND FOR SUCH AS A LARGE PROJECT. WESTMORELAND IS AN EXAMPLE OF IT. SOME OF THE DANGEROUS THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TRY TO AVOID IS WHEN YOU HAVE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, WHEN YOU HAVE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, IT STARTS ACCUMULATING, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN A $4 MILLION A YEAR BECOMES A $10 MILLION A YEAR. AND NOW YOU HAVE TO GO BOND FOR, FOR THE I'M P OR THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING NOT TO DO. IF YOU'VE SEEN FROM THE CURVE OR FROM THE ILLUSTRATION, YOU SPENT TWO MORE MILLION DOLLARS. YOU KEEP STATUS QUO. BASICALLY, YOU KEEP THAT PAVEMENT CONDITION RATING OF 71 WHEN IT STARTS DEGRADING BEYOND THE 65 RANGE, IT ACTUALLY EXPONENTIALLY STARTS FALLING OFF, MEANING THAT IT DOESN'T GO ONE GRADE A YEAR, IT GOES 4 OR 5 GRADES A YEAR. AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPERATIVE FOR US TO ACTUALLY WATCH THE EYE. ONCE THAT I'M P IS ESTABLISHED, IT'S IMPERATIVE FOR US TO WATCH IT EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS. WE ACTUALLY CONTINUE DOING THE STUDY EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS TO SEE WHAT THAT DEGRADATION FACTOR IS, BECAUSE THE MINUTE A STREET GOES FROM, YOU KNOW, A GOOD TO BAD, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE $400,000 A LAND MILE VERSUS $2 MILLION A LAND MILE, WHICH IS INCREDIBLY SIGNIFICANT. AND THAT PUTS A LOT OF BURDEN ON US. SO THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THIS. I'M P AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CREATE THAT BALANCING ACT, BUT ALSO WE HAVE TO BALANCE WITH OTHER SERVICES. SO IT'S, IT'S NOT AN EASY, IT'S NOT AN EASY ACT FOR US. AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO MAKE SACRIFICES. I WAS ACTUALLY SHARING WITH THE MAYOR, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE MAY HAVE TO STRETCH A TWO YEAR TO A THREE YEAR PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, AND SO ON. BUT WITH WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE TO ADJUST THAT, OKAY, ACCORDINGLY. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT AN EASY COOKIE CUTTER. IT'S IT'S VERY, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? IT'S A EVOLUTIONIZED TO, TO A SENSE OF WE HAVE TO WATCH IT ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS. MR. CITY MANAGER, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION BECAUSE SOMETIMES I WOULD SAY PERSONALLY, IT'S SO EASY TO GET CAUGHT UP WHEN YOU HEAR INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KIND OF LUMP IT AS ALL TOGETHER. BUT TO HAVE A CLEARER EXPLANATION OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND DEFINING WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS SETTING, HOW WE CAN MAKE THOSE AGAIN, INFORMED DECISIONS AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD IN THESE PROJECTS AND SUPPORTING THEM IN A GOVERNANCE MANNER. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I SEE NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTS. HOWEVER, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. LET ME START MY TIMER.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECTS. SO I NOTICED ON ONE OF THE OTHER SLIDES I DON'T I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH SLIDE IT WAS, BUT IT TALKED ABOUT HAVING THE MONEY IN THE 2025 BOND ALREADY TO START. DO WE KNOW WHICH SLIDE THAT IS? YES. HERE'S THE SLIDE. SO INITIAL FUNDING. SO INITIAL MEANS I'M ASSUMING FOR THE FIRST YEAR. AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THIS EVERY YEAR. SO HOW ARE WE GOING HOW WOULD WE FUND IT EVERY YEAR IF WE HAVE THE INITIAL FUNDING ALREADY. I'M NOT SURE WHAT AMOUNT STILL EXISTS. I'M ASSUMING IT'S PROBABLY MORE THAN THAT THAT'S THERE. BUT HOW ARE WE FUND? HOW WILL WE FUND IT? BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT WHAT MAY BE THE BEST OPTION, I'M LOOKING AT TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. YES, MA'AM. SO THE INITIAL FUNDING IS THE MONEY THAT COUNCIL APPROVED FOR 2026. SO THAT MONEY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN OUR ACCOUNTS AND WE CAN USE. SO WE WANT TO USE IT WHEN BASED ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE DATA. SO IT WOULD BE DATA DRIVEN APPROACH AND THE MONEY WILL BE DISTRIBUTED AS SUCH. BUT THE SCENARIO. SO LET'S SAY WE GO WITH SCENARIO NUMBER TWO AGAIN THE 7 MILLION. SO WE WILL START WITH FOR YEAR 2027. WE WILL START WITH WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, THE 4.5 PLUS THE 7 MILLION FOR 2027. THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE BUILDING NOW. NOW IN 2028, WE WILL ONLY HAVE SEVEN. IN 2029, WE WILL ONLY HAVE SEVEN. BUT THIS THE INITIAL START, THE, YOU KNOW, FROM OCTOBER 1ST, FROM 20, FROM BASICALLY FROM OCTOBER 27TH. SO LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY WE GO WITH WITH SCENARIO NUMBER TWO. AND THEN I COME BACK IN AUGUST WITH LIST OF PROJECTS, THE LIST OF PROJECTS FOR 2027, WHICH IS FROM OCTOBER 1ST AND ABOVE. IT WILL INCLUDE A BUDGET OF 7,000,004 AND A HALF. SO WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO GO WITH TONIGHT, WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE THAT 4.5 MILLION THAT WE CAN START WITH. ON TOP OF WHAT YOU SELECT. CORRECT. SO I'M STILL, I MAYBE I DIDN'T HEAR IT THE WAY YOU SAID IT. WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM IN FUTURE YEARS? SO WE HAVE THE BOND. ARE

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WE, ARE WE SAYING BECAUSE EVEN WITH EVEN WITH US APPROVING THE MONEY IN THE BOND, THAT'S ONLY GOING TO LAST US SO LONG? SO HOW WHERE ARE WE IN TERMS OF HOW LONG THAT BOND MONEY THAT WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED? HOW LONG WOULD THAT LAST US IF WE STAY AS STATUS QUO, AND THEN IF WE DECIDE TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT WITH ONE OF THE OTHER TWO SCENARIOS, WHAT WHAT POT OF MONEY IS THAT MONEY COMING FROM? SO, SO ARE YOU SAYING LIKE, IF WE ONLY USE IT 4.5 MILLION, WHAT WOULD BE THE PCI? NO, NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT PART FROM YOUR ILLUSTRATIONS. WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS AND MAYBE I, MAYBE I NEED TO TRY TO RESTATE THE QUESTION. WHAT I'M ASKING IS WE HAVE THE 2025 HCL BOND FUNDING AVAILABLE ALREADY FOR THE 4.5 MILLION, WHICH WILL KEEP US IF WE STAY THERE. THAT'S GOING TO KEEP US AS STATUS QUO. HOW LONG DO WE HAVE BEFORE THAT 4.5 MILLION IS NO LONGER ABLE TO BE DONE WITH THE BOND FUNDS WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

OH, SO BASICALLY, WHEN WILL THAT MONEY EXPIRE OUT? IT EXPIRES. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR YOU THOUGH. THAT'S ALL I CAN CHECK WITH FINANCE. BUT OUR PLAN IS TO USE THIS MONEY FOR 2027. OKAY, THE SECOND QUESTION AND THE SECOND QUESTION IS IF WE CHOOSE TO DO SCENARIO TWO, IT IN INCREASE THE AMOUNT THAT WE GIVE, I'M ASSUMING THAT WE WOULD STILL BE TAKEN OUT OF THIS POT OF MONEY WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED. SO I GUESS THAT WOULD STILL LEAD TO THE SAME RESPONSES. NOT SURE BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE WHAT HOW MUCH IS THERE AND HOW MANY TIMES, HOW MANY YEARS WILL THAT LAST US BEFORE IT ACTUALLY RUNS OUT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO MY DECISION MAKING WITH THIS TO UNDERSTAND HOW LONG DO WE HAVE? IS IT TWO MORE YEARS THAT WE CAN FUND FROM THAT, FROM THAT MONEY, OR IS IT TEN MORE YEARS? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND TO TRY TO HELP MAKE A BETTER INFORMED DECISION BASED ON HOW LONG WE HAVE FOR WHAT WE'VE ALREADY ACTUALLY APPROVED. SO, MAYOR, AFTER 2026, I DON'T THINK WE'VE PROGRAMED ANY MONEY FOR THE I'M P THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. WE WOULD HAVE TO GO FOR A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATIONS, POSSIBLY OR OR PROGRAM. IF WE WANT TO GO YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE HAVE TO PROGRAM IT JUST LIKE ANY OTHER FUNCTION IN THE CITY, WHICH MEANS THAT WE EITHER HAVE TO PAY FOR IT OUT OF GENERAL FUND AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT OR, YOU KNOW, CREATE A LONG STANDING BOND, RIGHT? AND BE ABLE TO SAY EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS, EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'LL NEED TO BORROW $10 MILLION OR, AND, AND IT ESCALATES THAT WAY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO BUILD. WE HAVEN'T BUILT IT IN THIS. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU THE MISCONCEPTION THAT THIS IS THIS IS HAPPENING YEAR AFTER YEAR.

CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN MANAGING THOSE THOSE CAPITAL PROGRAMS WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAMS TOGETHER. AND SO THAT'S WE'RE TRYING TO SEPARATE THOSE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO REALLY SHOWCASE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, AS WELL AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM, KIND OF AS A SEPARATE. I MEAN, THEY'RE TIED FINANCIALLY. COULD BE, BUT AS COMPLETELY SEPARATE PROGRAMS. AND SO WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THAT FAR. AND I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE MISCONCEPTION THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY ALREADY PLANNED FOR THE NEXT YEAR, THREE YEARS. WE DON'T. WELL, I I'M AND THAT MAKES MY NEXT STATEMENT A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SAY, BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT NOT MAKING A DECISION TONIGHT WILL HAVE ON THE TIMELINE. HOWEVER, I DON'T I CAN'T FIND MYSELF MAKING A DECISION BECAUSE IT WOULD JUST FEEL LIKE AN ARBITRARY SELECTION. I MEAN, I MIGHT AS WELL CLOSE MY EYES AND POINT MY FINGER TO ONE AND SAY, DO THIS ONE. BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING FIRST AND FOREMOST HOW WE WILL FUND THEM YEAR AFTER YEAR, WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE LEFT TO FUND EVEN THE STATUS QUO IS HARD FOR ME TO SAY AND MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION ON WHICH ONE WOULD BE THE BEST. OBVIOUSLY, $10 MILLION A YEAR IF MONEY WAS NO OBJECT WOULD BE THE BEST, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE DON'T WANT THAT DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE LAGGING BEHIND. HOWEVER, KNOWING THOSE NUMBERS IS, IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR, DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE WE CHOOSE. BECAUSE IF WE CHOOSE STATUS QUO UNDERSTANDING AGAIN, HOW THAT IMPACTS DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND ALL THE THINGS, BUT ALSO GETTING THE CADILLAC PACKAGE RIGHT, HOW THAT IMPACTS US. BUDGETARILY. AND JUST WITH THE DEBT WE TAKE ON TO TRY TO FUND THIS MOVING FORWARD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT NUMBER.

NO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, MAYOR, AND THE INTENT. AND PLEASE FORGIVE ME. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE PUT IN A DISCLAIMER SAYING THIS IS FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY. WE STILL NEED A LOT OF WORK WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUDGETING ASPECT OF IT. THIS IS NOT INTENDED FOR YOU TO SAY, WELL, I LIKE SCENARIO ONE OVER TWO OVER THREE. WE STILL HAVE SOME DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE

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AND SO THAT WE WILL NEED TO COME BACK WITH YOU. WE WERE JUST GIVING YOU KIND OF THE FULL GAMUT OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH WITH OUR STREET NETWORK. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PUT IN THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF YOU. SO WHEN WHEN WE COME IN WITH A BUDGET RECOMMENDATION, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT SHOCKED AND SAYING, WELL, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU SEE THAT FIRSTHAND BEFORE WE, WE, WE DO MORE DUE DILIGENCE AND COME UP WITH A NUMBER FOR YOU, CERTAINLY. BUT I GUESS WHEN I WHEN WE STARTED THE CONVERSATION, AFTER THE PRESENTATION WAS MADE, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, WHAT DO YOU ALL NEED FROM COUNCIL TONIGHT? AND IT WAS STATED, UNLESS I MISUNDERSTOOD THE RESPONSE, WE NEED TO SELECT ONE OF THESE THREE TO HELP YOU ALL GIVE DIRECTION ON WHICH WAY TO MOVE FORWARD. IS THAT ACCURATE? SO AND SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE ON THE PRESENTATION. BECAUSE HOW WE GOT THIS WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO DEVELOP THE 2027 BUDGET AND ONE OF THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE, THE CIP, RIGHT. AND WE WERE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT DO WE PUT IN THE CIP? LIKE WHAT NUMBER THAT MAKES SENSE THAT WE NEED TO PUT IN THE CIP FOR ROADWAYS. SO THIS IS HOW IT KIND OF WAS ORIGINALLY ORIGINATED. AND THEN AND THEN WE WERE LIKE, OKAY, SO THE WAY THAT WE COULD DO IT, ONE OF THE OPTIONS, OBVIOUSLY WE COULD GO BACK TO THE DATA AND DEVELOP SOME SCENARIOS, GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND GO WITH ONE OF THE OPTIONS. BUT THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY TO DO IT, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE TO MAKE ANY DECISION TONIGHT, WE ALWAYS CAN COME BACK AND PROVIDE YOU WITH MORE INFORMATION. I THINK WHAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. MR. CASEY, I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE COUNCIL IS TO HAVE THE INFORMATION THE CITY MANAGER IS REFERENCING IN TERMS OF THE FINANCIAL, HOW ALL OF THAT ALIGNS WITH THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE, AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS POSSIBLE TO GET AT OUR NEXT MEETING, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE VACATION IN BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING. HOWEVER, IF THAT WILL GIVE STAFF ENOUGH TIME TO ACTUALLY GIVE US SOME A BETTER PICTURE OF OF FINANCIALLY, WHAT THIS REALLY CAN LOOK LIKE, THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO MAKE A DECISION. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT COULD IMPACT THE TIMELINE. I DON'T BASED ON WHAT I REMEMBER YOU SAYING, THOUGH, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY DETRIMENTALLY CHANGE THE TIMELINE. COULD YOU REPEAT HOW THAT WOULD ALTER THE TIMELINE? NO, IT WOULD BE LIKE THREE MONTHS. WE JUST HAVE TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF GETTING THE FINAL APPROVAL IN AUGUST, WE COULD DO THAT IN AUGUST OR IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE 2 TO 3 MONTHS DIFFERENCE. OKAY, 2 TO 3 MONTHS DIFFERENCE IN, IN. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AGAIN, MR. CITY MANAGER, THAT YOU ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT INFORMATION WE'RE ASKING FOR, WHAT'S WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED. BUT IN TERMS OF THE, THE FINANCES, IN TERMS OF HOW THE FINANCES RUN ALONGSIDE THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE, HOW ESSENTIALLY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND IT? WHERE WOULD IT COME FROM, WHETHER THAT'S BONDS, WHETHER THAT'S OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, MAYBE EVEN PROVIDING THOSE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF HOW TO FUND IT AGAIN, WILL BE HELPFUL TO MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION ON, ON THE ON, ON THIS TO BE ABLE TO HELP GIVE STAFF SOME GUIDANCE AND SOME DIRECTION. THANK YOU, MAYOR, IF I MAY. AS STATED, THIS PRESENTATION WILL. THIS IS A PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE CIP, OF COURSE. AND SO THE DISCUSSION CAME UP BECAUSE HISTORICALLY WE HAD BEEN, I THINK ISSUING. WHEN WHENEVER WE DO OUR CI, C OS ANNUALLY, WE WOULD DO $1 MILLION FOR ALLEYS, $1 MILLION FOR CONCRETE, $1 MILLION. SO MR. CASEY BROUGHT FORWARD THIS PLAN AS, AS A DIFFERENT OPTION TO LOOK AT IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY OF HOW WE WOULD APPROACH THESE ESSENTIAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO EVERY, EVERY SINGLE YEAR. BUT IT HAS TO BE A PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE CIP, BECAUSE IT WILL REQUIRE TO BE A PART OF THE BOND SALE, AND THEY WOULD BE ISSUED IN THE FORM OF COS THE WAY THAT WE HISTORICALLY HAVE. BUT WE ALSO HAVE OTHER PROJECTS TO KEEP IN MIND, SUCH AS PLEASANT RUN ROAD AND SOME OF THE OTHER CIP PROJECTS THAT WE PARTNERED WITH THE COUNTY. SO WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND ALSO OUR DEBT CAPACITY AS WELL. AND SO WE WILL BE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CAPITAL PROJECTS TEAM, AND WE WILL BRING BACK FORWARD SOME OPTIONS FOR YOU ALL WITH SOME MORE CONCRETE NUMBERS. AND EVEN IF YOU COULD GIVE US SOME ILLUSTRATIONS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, $4 MILLION TODAY IS NOT GOING TO BE $4 MILLION IN FIVE YEARS. RIGHT? IN TERMS OF HOW FAR THAT WILL GET YOU WITH PROJECTS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT INFLATION, CONSTRUCTION COSTS GOING UP. COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US SOME LIKE SOME ILLUSTRATIONS ABOUT THAT AS WELL? BECAUSE AGAIN, JUST HELPFUL TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN SAY $4 MILLION EVERY YEAR, BUT THAT'S GOING TO GET US LESS AND LESS EACH YEAR. SO JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THAT. SO I APPRECIATE IT. AND MAYOR, THAT IS REALLY TRULY A STATIC SNAPSHOT.

CERTAINLY. ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE COMMODITY CHANGES, PRICES AND THE COMMODITY. AND

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WE'VE EXPERIENCED THAT MANY YEARS AGO WHEN WHEN ASPHALT PRICES WENT UP 30% AND CONCRETE PRICES WENT UP 50%, THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT, OF COURSE, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AS WELL AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. SO ALL OF THOSE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED. AND AGAIN, THIS WILL HAVE TO BE A DYNAMIC SYSTEM WHERE WE EVERY SINGLE YEAR WE HAVE TO VISIT IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE EXPERIENCED THAT WITH SOME OF OUR LARGER PROJECTS. YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE PROJECT I DON'T WANT TO NAME, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WENT FROM $50 MILLION TO $22 MILLION IN 4 OR 5 YEARS. AND SO WE KNOW THE IMPACT THAT THIS CREATES. THAT'S WHY SYSTEMATICALLY WE HAVE TO PLAN IT RIGHT AND REALLY EXECUTE IT AT THAT SPECIFIC YEAR THAT WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, PROLONGING IT IS GOING TO JUST PUT, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY PUSH IT FURTHER, DEGRADE IT FURTHER, BUT ALSO COST MORE. CERTAINLY, COUNCIL, WE IN AGREEMENT TO HEAR BACK FROM STAFF ON THIS, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WITH MORE INFORMATION ON THE FINANCIAL PIECE. CAN I ASK AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION PLEASE. WE DID WE DID ROUNDS WITH ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES WANTS TO LEND THEIR TIME. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE QUESTION IN TERMS OF STAFFING. AND I KNOW THAT THAT HAPPENS AFTER THE FACT. BUT IF YOU WERE TO GO WITH ONE OF THESE OPTIONS WHERE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A SET OF PROJECTS ALREADY UNDERWAY, IF THE MONEY IS THERE AND THE PROJECT NEEDS TO BE DONE, HOW WOULD THAT LOOK FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF GETTING IT DONE IN A YEAR'S TIME TO ABSORB THAT MONIES THAT ARE THEN BEING PUT THERE? YES. SO WE COULD USE THE MONEY TODAY, THE 4.5 MILLION THAT WE HAVE, WE CAN USE IT ANY TIME. BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WHAT ROAD ARE WE GOING TO USE IT FOR? SO WE BUILT THIS, AS YOU KNOW, A SYSTEM DATA DRIVEN APPROACH TO PRIORITIZE ROADWAYS BASED ON THEIR CONDITIONS TO ENHANCE TRANSPARENCY. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF THIS MANAGEMENT PLAN IS YOU HAVE THE MONEY, BUT YOU WE NEED, YOU KNOW, THE DATA AND THE PLANNING TO ALLOCATE THOSE MONEY TO WHERE WE NEED THE MONEY TO GO. THE OTHER OPTION IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IN MEGAN IS HERE WITH OUR CONSULTANT. MAYBE YOU CAN ELABORATE MORE ON THIS, BUT SOMETIMES IF YOU DON'T TREAT THIS ROAD TODAY WITH THE PRESERVATION OVER THE NEXT 2 OR 3 YEARS, WE WILL HAVE TO SPEND MUCH MORE ON THAT ROAD BECAUSE THE CATEGORY WILL WILL FALL DOWN FROM PRESERVATION TO REPAIR OR FROM REPAIR TO REHABILITATION. WE WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT ALL THOSE FIGURES WHERE IT SHOWS YOU LIKE THE DETERIORATION OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. IF WE WERE NOT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE MONEY IN AND OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY ADDRESSING THOSE PROJECTS, OKAY, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE AN AWARENESS OF HOW MANY PROJECTS THIS ACTUALLY INCLUDES IN THAT 10 MILLION OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. HOW MANY PROJECTS DO WE REALLY HAVE? I SAW THE MAP, BUT HOW MANY PROJECTS DOES THAT INCLUDE? EXACTLY. SO WHEN WE PLUG THE THIRD OUTPUT, I'M SORRY, THE INPUT, THEN THE OUTPUT WILL BE THE LIST OF PROJECTS. SO I CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE NUMBERS OF PROJECTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU, MR. CASEY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. AT THIS TIME WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA PLEASE. WE WILL NOW HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES DIAGNOSTIC REPORT MAKING INTRODUCTION IS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, MISS JACKIE COLTON. GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR, DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE DE SOTO CITY COUNCIL. I'M JACQUELINE COLTON, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME TO OUR NEWEST COUNCILMAN, BRIAN WESLEY. SO THE CITY HAS RETAINED THE FIRM OF FREESE AND NICHOLS TO DO A DIAGNOSTIC REPORT OF ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES, AS WE ARE WELL AWARE, YOU KNOW, THE ORDINANCES HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED IN A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR CITY. YOU KNOW, THEY SET THE TONE FOR SUSTAINABILITY, HOW WE DEVELOP AND REDEVELOP.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOCATING FUNDS FOR THIS REPORT. JOINING US THIS EVENING FROM FRAZER NICHOLS. WE HAVE MR. WILSON KERR AND MISS LAVENDER PARK, AND THEY WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT PROCESS AND GATHER Y'ALL'S INPUT REGARDING ANY ISSUES THAT

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YOU'VE IDENTIFIED WITH THE CURRENT CODE, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE CODE GOING FORWARD. SO AS A PART OF THEIR WORK, SO FAR, THERE HAS BEEN INTERVIEWS WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF. THEY'VE TALKED TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. THEY'VE TALKED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND AS WELL, THEY'VE TALKED TO INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. AND SO THAT FEEDBACK HAS BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE REVISED PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU EACH HAVE ON THE DYESS. SO WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO MR. WILSON. KERR. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. KERR. GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR FOR HAVING ME HERE. AS JACKIE MENTIONED, MY NAME IS WILSON KERR. I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER FROM FREESE AND NICHOLS. AND WE DO HAVE LAVENDER PARK RIGHT OVER HERE.

SHE IS GOING TO BE TAKING NOTES TONIGHT AFTER SOME OF OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT WE HAVE.

SO FIRST, I'D JUST LIKE TO PULL UP OUR AGENDA FOR THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT. SO I'LL DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND THE THE SCHEDULE, AS WELL AS GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE HAD OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND BREAK DOWN SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE THAT WE'VE GATHERED. AND THEN I'LL MOVE ON TO THE DISCUSSION QUESTIONS AND TARGETED QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALL TO OPEN THAT UP AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK FROM US. SOME OF YOU, FOR SOME OF YOU, THESE WILL BE FAMILIAR. THEY'RE THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED DURING THE INDIVIDUAL STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE REALLY BENEFICIAL TO ALSO HAVE THESE QUESTIONS BE ANSWERED FROM YOU ALL AS A BODY AS WELL. AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEXT STEPS. SO ABOUT THE PROJECT. THIS IS A FIVE MONTH PROJECT. WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THAT SECOND MONTH THERE WITH COMING TO YOU. YOU ALL FOR THIS WORK SESSION.

AFTER TONIGHT, WE'LL MOVE INTO REALLY THE WRITING PHASE OF THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT. SO THAT'S WHEN WE'LL WE'LL GATHER, SYNTHESIZE ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL GAVE US AND REALLY BREAK THAT DOWN INTO RECOMMENDATIONS MOVING FORWARD. SO THE PROJECT SCOPE.

SO FOR FOR ANYONE WHO ISN'T FAMILIAR, A DIAGNOSTIC REPORT IS OF THE CODE IS EXACTLY KIND OF WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. IT'S AN OVERALL HOLISTIC LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH ARE THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS FOR THE CITY. AND WE LOOK AT THAT FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW AS CODE WRITERS, AS WELL AS FROM STAFF'S POINT OF VIEW THROUGH THROUGH TALKING WITH THEM AND WORKING WITH THEM, AND THEN THROUGH CITY LEADERSHIP POINT OF VIEW, WE IDENTIFY THE ISSUES THAT ARE CURRENTLY HAPPENING IN THE CODE. THOSE ISSUES CAN BE ANYTHING FROM JUST THE CODE BEING OLD AND NOT BEING UPDATED IN A WHILE TO NOT MEETING CURRENT STATE LAW. SO WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY THOSE AND THEN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS MOVING FORWARD. SO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL WILL LIST AT THE END OF THIS. AND THAT WILL BE THE KIND OF TO DO LIST THAT WE LOOK BACK IN, THE CHECKLIST THAT WE LOOK BACK ON WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THE CODE UPDATE. SO AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A FIVE MONTH TIMELINE, AND AT THE END WE'LL HAVE THAT FULL IMPLEMENTATION PHASING PLAN THROUGH THE THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE RIGHT HERE. ONE THING THAT IS NOT LISTED ON ON OUR ENGAGEMENT HERE IS THE ZBOA SESSION THAT WE HAD AS WELL. WE HAD THAT TWO WEEKS AGO. WE MET WITH ZBOA VIRTUALLY AND GATHERED THEIR FEEDBACK AS WELL. AND THEN WE ARE, WE CURRENTLY ARE DOING STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS RIGHT NOW. WE, I THINK WE HAVE WE MAY HAVE 1 OR 2 MORE IF WE HAVEN'T MET WITH SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS MOVING FORWARD, WE'D BE HAPPY TO TO MEET WITH YOU AS WELL. SO WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, SO WHO WE SPOKE WITH, WE STARTED OUR PROJECT BY SPEAKING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF. THEY ARE WHAT WE CALL THE CODE SUPER USERS. THEY'RE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CODE THAT ARE ARE WORKING AT EVERY DAY. SO THEY HAVE THAT UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT WE NEED TO HEAR WHENEVER WE'RE IDENTIFYING THE ISSUES MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN WE MET WITH WHAT WE CALL OUR FREQUENT FLIER DEVELOPERS, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO YOU ALL RELATIVELY WITH RELATIVE FREQUENCY TO UNDERSTAND ANY DELAYS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE PROCESS THAT THEY CAN SEE OR ISSUES THAT THEY'RE SEEING FROM THE DEVELOPER PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. AND THEN WE HAD INDIVIDUAL INTERVIEWS WITH YOU ALL, AND AS I MENTIONED, MET WITH Z, B, O, A, AND P AND HAD AND THE PNC.

SO SOME OF THE MAIN ISSUES THAT WE THAT WE GATHERED, I'VE LISTED ABOUT 12 MAIN ISSUES.

NUMBER ONE IS MODERNIZING AND OUTDATED. CODE NUMBER TWO IS MAKING THE CODE EASIER TO USE AND NAVIGATE AND EXPLAIN SO THAT ANYONE WHO IS OPENING THE CODE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S

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GOING ON. BECAUSE WHILE CITY STAFF AND YOUR FREQUENT DEVELOPERS ARE, YOU KNOW, THE MORE FREQUENT USERS OF THE CODE, WE STILL WANT THIS TO BE USABLE FOR ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY TO OPEN UP AND UNDERSTAND THE PROCESSES WITHIN THE CODE, STREAMLINING APPROVALS AND EXPANDING ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW WHERE APPROPRIATE. SO THIS COMES DOWN FROM SOME STATE LAW CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED THAT ARE ALLOWING SOME ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS FOR CERTAIN THINGS IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, REDUCING OVERRELIANCE ON PDS AND SPECIAL APPROVALS, SUPPORTING REDEVELOPMENT AND AND INFILL DEVELOPMENT WITH SPECIFIC STANDARDS. SO IDENTIFYING THOSE AREAS WITHIN THE CITY THAT ARE PRIMED FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND INFILL, AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE ARE SPECIFIC STANDARDS WITHIN THE CODE FOR THAT. EXPANDING HOUSING CHOICES AND AFFORDABILITY WHILE MAINTAINING CITY CHARACTER, ENABLING MIXED USE AND ACTIVITY CENTER DEVELOPMENT IN STRATEGIC LOCATIONS, BUILDING A STRONGER COMMERCIAL TAX BASE AND RETAINING LOCAL SPENDING, AND THEN CREATING DISTRICT BASED ZONING AND OVERLAYS FOR MAJOR CORRIDORS AND FOCUS AREAS.

IMPROVING DEVELOPMENT QUALITY THROUGH FLEXIBLE BUT CLEAR STANDARDS AND ALIGNING ALIGNING INFRASTRUCTURE, MOBILITY AND DEVELOPMENT EXPECTATIONS, AND THEN ENGAGING RESIDENTS EARLIER IN THE IN THE APPLICATION AND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND MANAGING PUBLIC OPPOSITION CONSTRUCTIVELY. I'M SORRY, MADAM MAYOR, I HAD SOMEONE SAY THAT THEY CAN'T SEE IT ONLINE.

THEY CAN'T SEE THE PRESENTATION ONLINE. ARE WE PUTTING IT ONLINE? IT IS ON. I JUST SAW IT ONLINE, BUT I'M NOT SURE. MISS KIRBY AND DOCTOR WILLIAMS, CAN WE SEE MAKE SURE IT'S STREAMING ONLINE APPROPRIATELY. THANK YOU. YOU CAN CONTINUE, PLEASE. OKAY, GREAT. SO WITH THIS I'LL MOVE ON TO OUR DISCUSSION QUESTIONS. SO WE HAVE ABOUT EIGHT TO 8 TO 15 QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALL GOING OVER THE MAIN FOCUS AREAS THAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE DOING A DIAGNOSTIC REPORT. SO FIRST WE'RE ASKING REALLY WHAT WORKS WELL WITH THE CODE AND WHAT SHOULD WE AVOID CHANGING. SO WHAT ARE SOME POSITIVE EXPERIENCES THAT YOU ALL AS A BODY HAVE HAD WITH THE CODE? YES. MAYOR PRO TEM WELL, IN MY INTERVIEW WITH YOU TODAY, I MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I DO LOVE IS THAT THE ACCESSIBILITY OF I KNOW WHERE TO GO FIND IT IN THE CODE. I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH MOST MOST CITIES, AND I'M TRYING TO KEEP THIS ON THE POSITIVE. RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT'S WORKING WELL, IT'S IT'S EASY TO UNDERSTAND.

IT'S IT'S IN BLACK AND WHITE FOR THE MOST PART. I, I GET IT AND IT'S, I CAN COMPREHEND WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT. SURE. GREAT. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS HERE? NO, I THINK THAT CONCLUDES OUR COMMENTS. I SEE NO LIGHTS. GREAT. SO NEXT IS THE OPPOSITE. SO WHAT IS NOT WORKING WELL WITH THE CODE AND WHAT ARE SOME COMMON ISSUES THAT YOU'RE SEEING. SO THIS OH SORRY SORRY.

GO AHEAD. YES. I THINK ONE OF THE COMMON ISSUES, AND I THINK I SAID THIS WHEN WE WERE TALKING WAS THAT IT'S A BIT OF SOME REDUNDANCY. AND SO SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE SEARCHING THROUGH THE CODE, YOU'RE NOT SURE WHICH ONE APPLIES TO TO WHO. AND YOU KNOW, TO MAKE THAT EASIER. BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, I THINK, I THINK OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S WHAT I SAID. THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM. I WILL GO WITH THAT. IT DOESN'T SPEAK ENOUGH TO OWNERSHIP. OWNERSHIP OF MAINTENANCE. AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. SOME OF MY MY FRUSTRATION IS PEOPLE WHO OWN PARKING LOTS BUT DON'T KEEP UP WITH THE MAINTENANCE IN IT. SO IT HAS POTHOLES AND IT LOOKS HORRIBLE. OR THEY DON'T KEEP UP WITH THE PAINT SO THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK DETERIORATED AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND WHEN I RECENTLY INQUIRED THROUGH THE CITY ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP OF WHO, WHO, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, I WAS, I WAS TOLD IT, THE THAT PIECE DOES NOT EXIST IN OUR CODING. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU, MISS KIRBY. I'M SHOWING THAT THE LIVE STREAM IS STREAMING WITH CAPTIONS AS WELL. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT QUESTION. GREAT. SO ARE THERE ANY EXISTING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT MAY BE OVERLY ONEROUS OR CUMBERSOME? AND I REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT NOT JUST RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE TYPES OF HOUSING THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO SEE AND WHAT WHAT IS WANTING TO COME TO THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW. I'M GOING TO SAY WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS WITH SOME OF THE

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DEVELOPMENTS POSSIBLY BEING OVER PARKED AND THEN SOME OF THEM NOT BEING BEING UNDER PARKED. SO I KNOW THAT PARKING IS A BIG ONE BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE SEEN A LOT OF IN MY TIME ON COUNCIL HAVE SEEN A LOT OF. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VARIANCES OR REQUESTS FOR DEVIATIONS WITH PARKING REQUIREMENTS. SO DEFINITELY PARKING IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE ONES THAT COME TO MIND FOR ME FIRST. GREAT. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS HERE? AND I THINK IN ADDITION TO WHAT SHE SAID, I THINK WHEN I WAS TALKING WITH YOU, WHEN WE WERE TALKING IN TERMS OF THE FRONT ENTRIES AND THE WAY THAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE BUILT, IT DOESN'T REALLY LEND WELL WITH ALL OF THE TRASH BINS AND THEN THE PARKING AND THEN THE CARS. IT'S JUST IT'S A LOT. YEAH. SO AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY IN THE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU'RE. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, I WOULD SAY THAT OUR OUR CODING IS WRITTEN FOR HOUSING FOR DESOTO MAYBE 20, 30 YEARS AGO WHEN CONSTRUCTION WAS A COST THAT YOU COULD WALK AWAY AND MAKE THINGS BALANCE. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE GONE UP. WE HAVE VERY LARGE LOTS. I LOVE THAT ABOUT DESOTO, DON'T GET ME WRONG. BUT WITH THE REMAINDER LAND THAT WE HAVE, IS IT THE BEST? IS IT BEST TO HAVE A SF 12 WHEN WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT INDUSTRY STANDARDS TODAY, RIGHT? DOES IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO HAVE ZONING LOT SIZES ALIGN WITH WHERE INDUSTRY STANDARD IS, AND HAVE IT FALL OUT ON THE DAIS ON WHETHER OR NOT WE GO ALONG WITH IT, YOU KNOW, OR. SURE. YEAH. GREAT. THANK YOU. WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT QUESTION. SO ARE THERE ANY MAJOR STANDARDS THAT THE CODE IS MISSING OR ANY STANDARDS THAT ARE INADEQUATE CURRENTLY? Y'ALL COVERED A LITTLE BIT OF THIS IN THAT LAST QUESTION. WELL, I'M SORRY, I THINK I DON'T KNOW IF WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE, BUT THE STANDARDS FOR, I MEAN, ARE THE, THE CODE FOR LIKE AGRICULTURAL LAND IS NOT A PART OF OUR CODE. AND I KNOW THAT I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN WITH CITY MANAGEMENT ABOUT THOSE AG LOTS THAT WE HAVE SITTING IN THE CITY OF DESOTO THAT ARE NOT BEING MOWED AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE'S NO CODE THAT ACTUALLY ADDRESSES IT AND IT SHOULD BE. SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS MISSING. I THINK WE I'M NOT SURE IF I TALKED WITH YOU ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED. SURE. VERY GOOD TO KNOW. SOMETHING ELSE THAT I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD ADDRESS IS FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, LIGHTING FOR OUR COMMERCIAL NODES. THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT REQUIRES PERIMETER LIGHTING. AND I FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU FIND YOUR YOU A NUISANCE COME FROM HAVING UNHOUSED OR JUST CRIME, BEING ABLE TO HAPPEN IN THOSE AREAS WHERE THE LIGHTING IS JUST NOT EXISTING OR DIM OR AN ENFORCEMENT OF IT. SO I KNOW THAT THAT TEETERS THE LINE OF THE LAW. HOWEVER, I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHERE THERE'S ZONING THAT ACTUALLY REQUIRES PERIMETER LIGHTING IN THE COMMERCIAL AREAS. I THINK, AND I THINK WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP LAST WEEK AS WELL ABOUT ADA COMPLIANCE WITHIN OUR STANDARDS. A FEW YEARS AGO, THE CITY OF DESOTO DID WHAT WE COINED AS ADA AUDIT OF THE ENTIRE CITY IN TERMS OF WHETHER THAT'S INFRASTRUCTURE, SIDEWALKS, STREETS, BUILDINGS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, AND CAME UP WITH A NUMBER OF AREAS WHERE YOU COULD SAY THE CITY WAS DEFICIENT OR THOSE THINGS. AND IT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN THE AGE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN TERMS OF ADA COMPLIANCE AND WHAT WAS ALLOWABLE THEN VERSUS WHAT'S ALLOWABLE NOW. SO LOOKING AT WHERE WE WHERE THOSE THINGS DIFFER, I KNOW THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US, ESPECIALLY HERE, UPDATING OUR CODE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INCORPORATING THOSE INTO NEW DEVELOPMENT AND EVEN WITH CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MENTION ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND. I KNOW A LOT OF THESE IDEAS WERE THROWN OUT, WHICH ARE GREAT IDEAS. SOME OF THESE MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE IN THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. I THINK IN OUR REGULATIONS, I'M TAKING NOTES BECAUSE THERE MAY BE OTHER AREAS AS A PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND SO FORTH, WHERE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. SO JUST KIND OF AS A LITTLE SIDE NOTE, THANK YOU FOR THAT ASIDE, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, THANK YOU. SO HOW WAS THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WORKING IN YOUR OPINION, AND ARE THERE ANY PROCEDURAL HICCUPS THAT HAVE EVER DELAYED A PROJECT? I WOULD SAY FROM A DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. IN ALL HONESTY, I WOULD SAY THE NOTIFICATION PIECE. WE'VE SEEN INSTANCES WHERE IT WAS NOT AS SEAMLESS. THERE HAVE BEEN LAW CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED THAT MADE REQUIREMENTS OF CERTAIN LANGUAGES BEING PLACED, OR IT JUST DIDN'T GO OUT IN THE THE FASHION THAT IT NEEDED TO GO OUT INTO WHATEVER. NO POINTING

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FINGERS. IT JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN THE WAY IT NEEDS TO. NOW, I WOULD MUST ADMIT IN THE LAST YEAR I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT. AND I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE LEADERSHIP THERE. BUT I THINK HAVING. AND WITHIN THAT PROCESS, SOME WAY OF MAKING SURE THAT THOSE THINGS HAPPEN.

BECAUSE WHAT DOES THAT DO THAT MAKES IT GIVES THE CITY A POOR PERCEPTION OF, OF, OR THE CREDIBILITY OF THE CITY WHEN THOSE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN SYSTEMICALLY, AS THEY SHOULD.

OKAY. YEAH, NOT, NOT TO GET INTO A RABBIT HOLE, BUT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE SUCH AS WHETHER OR NOT THIS COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO GIVE PLAT APPROVAL OVER TO THE OVER TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE AS OPPOSED TO THE THE SO THAT THAT IS I MEAN, WE CAN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT NOW OR THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT LATER. WHENEVER WE DO THE ACTUAL CODE REWRITE, THIS IS REALLY JUST KIND OF CREATING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE USED TO TO DO THAT, REWRITE. THE RECOMMENDATIONS CAN ALSO BE THROWN OUT IF NEED BE. THIS IS JUST THE REPORT. IT'S A REPORT FOR STAFF WILL BE COMING BACK LATER FOR A REVIEW FROM COUNCIL OF THE REPORT, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.

IT'S JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE AREAS THAT WILL BE EITHER YES OR NO OR MAYBE. ABSOLUTELY.

I GET THE FEELING THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS TRYING TO THROW US SOME SIGNALS. AND WHILE THE COUNCIL DOES LOVE A GOOD RABBIT HOLE, I GUESS THIS IS A PERFECT TIME TO ASK YOU, MR. KERR, AS FAR AS WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FROM COUNCIL IN TERMS OF DIRECTION, OR IS THIS JUST AN FYI? WHAT WOULD YOU BE LOOKING FOR? SO THIS IS REALLY JUST TRYING TO FIGURE. SO WE HAVE THOSE THOSE INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUAL INTERVIEWS. SO WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AS A WHOLE COUNCIL WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN AND WHAT ARE SOME COMMON ISSUES THAT HAVE COME, HAVE COME UP THAT WE CAN ADDRESS WHILE WE'RE DOING THE CODE REWRITE? SO THIS IS JUST OUR INITIAL. SO THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT IS THE FIRST PHASE IN THE CODE REWRITE. SO THIS IS WHAT GIVES US KIND OF THAT FOUNDATION TO TO BUILD TO BUILD ON MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER. MAYOR, IF I MAY SUGGEST, I THINK FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE OPPORTUNITY MAY BE, INSTEAD OF THE QUESTIONING OF HOW THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WORKING, MAYBE GIVE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF SAYING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO SEE THIS VERSUS THAT.

SURE. OKAY. IF IF HERE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU COULD CONSIDER, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL IN THE SENSE OF GIVING THE CITY COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY, FOR EXAMPLE, AGAIN, A, YOU KNOW, APPROVING THE PLOTS MINISTERIALLY VERSUS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL. I THINK THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD SAY. HOW DOES THAT IMPROVE THE PROCESS? OKAY. HOW DOES THAT HELP US IN IN BEING AND BEING DEVELOPMENT FRIENDLY, FOR EXAMPLE, OR, OR BEING, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATE OF, OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. SO I THINK GIVEN SOME OF THE EXAMPLES AND SAY YOU COULD CONSIDER ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE. YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF I MAY, IF I MAY MAKE THAT SUGGESTION. SURE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WHENEVER WE COME BACK FOR YOUR REVIEW LATER IN THE PROCESS, WE CAN GIVE YOU THOSE EXAMPLES TO, TO GO FORWARD. WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT TO GIVE YOU THE SCENARIOS AND BREAK THOSE DOWN SO THAT IT'S EASY FOR YOU TO, TO, TO READ THROUGH. AND WE ARE VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS. SO THAT'S A GOOD THING. I SEE A LIGHT FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER.

PARKER. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND I JUST WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE I, I LIKE WHERE CITY MANAGER WAS GOING WITH THAT, MAYBE GIVEN BECAUSE IT COULD GO WELL BEYOND THE HOUR OR SO THAT WE HAVE HERE. SO I'M GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION THAT I THINK THAT I ASKED DURING THE ACTUAL MEETING. WHEN IT COMES TO THE PUBLIC, THEY'RE NOT ON THE LIST OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OR WILL BE TALKED TO BASED ON THE TIMELINE. AND THEN YOU GOT FIVE MONTHS AND THAT'S GOING THROUGH AUGUST, RIGHT? AND SO WE'VE ALREADY EXPENDED THREE OF THAT FIVE MONTHS. SO WE STARTED AT THE END OF MARCH, SO APRIL, MAY. SO WE HAVE HAVE GONE THROUGH TWO, TWO MONTHS. SO THE PUBLIC WILL ABSOLUTELY BE INVOLVED WHEN WE ARE DOING THE CODE UPDATE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CODE THAT THEY ARE AS INVOLVED AS POSSIBLE. THIS IS AS A DIAGNOSTIC REPORT. WE REALLY WANT TO WE LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FREQUENTLY USING THE CODE OR HEARING FROM THE CODE FREQUENTLY, LIKE LIKE YOU ALL OR P AND Z. THAT HELPS US KIND OF GET THAT UNDERSTANDING FROM, FROM YOU ALL AND FROM THOSE, THOSE FREQUENT FLIER DEVELOPERS. WHENEVER WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PHASE, WHICH IS THAT ACTUAL CODE REWRITE, PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT WILL, WILL, WILL BE PARAMOUNT TO THAT. WE WILL HAVE OPEN HOUSES THROUGHOUT. WE'LL HAVE DIFFERENT ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES. THERE WILL ALSO BE A WEBSITE THAT WILL SHOW ANY UPDATES, HAVE SURVEYS, THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THE PUBLIC. OKAY, SO ON THE PROJECT SCHEDULE, I'M JUST I'M REALLY JUST SPEAKING TO THE PROJECT. SURE. FOR THOSE

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OPPORTUNITIES, ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUTREACH SO THAT WE CAN MAKE CERTAIN BECAUSE WHILE, YES, WE DO INTEGRALLY TALK TO SOME OF THESE ITEMS, THE PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC ACTUALLY DO ALSO HAVE SOME SOMETHING TO ADD. SURE. SO, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE PROJECT SCHEDULE, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY TO ADD SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES? SO PEOPLE ARE KIND OF YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE SETTING THE EXPECTATION THAT AT SOME POINT WE ARE GOING TO COME TO YOU AS OPPOSED TO JUST SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO COME TO YOU. IS IT SOMEWHERE WRITTEN THAT MAYBE THEY CAN GET THAT SAME THOUGHT PROCESS? SURE. AND WE CAN DO WE CAN. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF TO, TO ADD. ABSOLUTELY. AND THERE WILL DEFINITELY BE IT WILL BE THE WHENEVER WE GO FOR REVIEW WITH COUNCIL, IT WILL ALSO BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW AS WELL AND GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK TOO. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU, MR. KERR. I KNOW YOU HAVE A REMAINDER OF YOUR YOUR PRESENTATION SO YOU CAN CONTINUE SO WE CAN. SURE. SO TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AS WELL AS RESIDENTS, WHAT ARE SOME SOME OF THE TOP PRIORITIES THAT YOU ALL HAVE SEEN OR THINK THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY MIGHT HAVE MOVING FORWARD? AND THEN FROM THE RESIDENT SIDE, WHAT ARE SOME SOME THINGS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD THE MOST FROM THE RESIDENTS IN THE PAST WITH DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS? I WOULD SAY DRAINAGE, DRAINAGE IN. DRAINAGE AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF I UNDERSTAND THAT QUESTION. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY'S TWO. THERE'S A THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE TOP. I'M SORRY, THERE'S A THERE'S A TYPO ON THERE. OKAY. TOP PRIORITIES WILL BE DURING THIS UPDATE. YES. MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE SILENCE IS JUST KILLS ME. SO I WOULD SAY THAT MULTIFAMILY IS A TOPIC THAT IS THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN VOCAL ABOUT IN THE PAST. AND I BROUGHT THIS UP IN OUR INTERVIEW BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY IN THE CODING FOR MULTIFAMILY BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT COULD BE MODERNIZED, BUT THE EXPECTATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS CAN DEFINITELY BE REVIEWED AND INCREASED. THE TRUTH IS, IS THAT WE'RE WE LIVE IN A SUBURB, RIGHT? SO FOLKS HAVE INTENTIONALITY WHEN THEY MOVE TO A SUBURB, AND THEY TYPICALLY WANT A SLOWER VERSION OF THE CITY, RIGHT? SO IN LESS DENSITY. SO AS WE APPROACH, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO DO WITH THE REST OF THE LAND THAT WE HAVE, WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE? AND, AND WE MAY GET HIT WITH THOSE CODE ZONING CASES. LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT MULTIFAMILY ZONING AND WHAT IS IT MISSING? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOME GAPS IN JUST THE EXPECTATION, EVEN THE DENSITY FOR PARKING, LIKE THE MAYOR BROUGHT UP. IT'S JUST IT'S ANTIQUATED. SO I THINK THERE'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY THERE. SURE. COUNCILMAN WESLEY, GOOD EVENING. MY QUESTION IS WE HAVE A NEW DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, GUS, HAVE HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO HIM TO SEE WHAT HE NEEDS TO TO TO BE GREAT AT HIS POSITION? SURE. WE HAVE NOT YET. WE'VE BEEN WORKING SINCE.

THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT CODES AND STANDARDS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT MORE, BUT WE'D BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH WITH ANYONE ON ON STAFF. WELL, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT HE WAS HIRED TO DO SOME GREAT THINGS AND HE KNOWS WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO. SO I, I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR YOU TO TAKE TIME WITH OUR DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. ABSOLUTELY. COUNCIL MEMBER HUGHES AND I THINK STAFF HAD. SO WE WILL MAKE SURE TO INCORPORATE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THAT WAS A GREAT SUGGESTION, COUNCILMAN WESLEY, AND TO YOUR POINT AND TO MY COLLEAGUE'S POINT, WE DO WANT MULTIFAMILY. WE ALSO NEED HOUSING FOR SENIORS. PEOPLE WANT TO SEE EATING, ENTERTAINMENT, NICE RESTAURANTS, ALL THE THINGS THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE 20 MINUTES AWAY, 20 MILES AWAY FOR THAT. MY WHOLE TENURE, THAT IS WHAT WE WANT. YOU KNOW, WE WANT A NICE GROCERY STORE THAT WE COULD HAVE. I MEAN, WHEN YOU ASK US WHAT WE WANT, WE WANT TO BE THAT MANY FRISCO OR MANY PLANO WITH WITH OPTIONS FOR, FOR THE MOST PART, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COUNCIL, IF I COULD ASK FOR THE SAKE OF TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FRAMING OUR RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONS BEING POSED ON THE DIFFERENT SLIDES. SO LET'S MAKE SURE THE QUESTION IS THE TOP PRIORITIES OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. SO IS THERE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR THAT FROM THE COUNCIL? I SEE NO LIGHTS SO WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO ARE THERE GOOD

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EXAMPLES MENTIONING MENTIONING FRISCO AND PLANO? ARE THERE GOOD EXAMPLES OF DEVELOPMENTS OR REGULATIONS FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO EMULATE WITHIN WITHIN DESOTO? WELL I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER NORTH. THANK YOU. AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. WILSON. IN OUR CONVERSATION, I DID MENTION FENCING AS WE GO TO DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES OR AS I VISIT DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY ON THE SOUTHWESTERN SECTOR HERE, MIDLOTHIAN, WAXAHACHIE OR EVEN MANSFIELD IN SEEING THE ONE ON ONE BOARD OR FENCING VERSUS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WHICH IS WHAT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO CALL IT? THE BASIC FENCING THAT IS OFFERED WHEN BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO IF WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT FENCING UPGRADES AND THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND MATERIAL AS OTHER COMMUNITIES, THAT WOULD GIVE US CONSISTENCY AS WELL AS INCREASE THE PROPERTY VALUE FOR OUR RESIDENTS HERE AND ALSO COUNCIL, KEEP IN MIND, TO SOME NEW STATE LAWS. TWO LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AGO. THE CITY IS VERY LIMITED IN. DUE TO CHANGES IN STATE LAW. TWO LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AGO THE STATE. THE STATE, THE CITY IS VERY LIMITED IN ITS ABILITY NOW TO CONTROL A LOT OF THE BUILDING MATERIALS THAT THAT WE USED TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS FENCING AND ETC. OR SIDING AND MASONRY. NOT NOT ONLY THAT, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, BUT ALSO THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

IT'S STILL ON OUR WISH LIST, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW, I JUST JUST KEEP IT IN THE RABBIT HOLE. KEEP IT IN MIND. THANK YOU. YES. PLEASE KEEP US OUT OF THE RABBIT HOLE. ARE THERE ANY EXAMPLES? COUNCIL IS WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR. EXAMPLES FROM EXAMPLES FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES.

YES, I THINK I, I BELIEVE I SAID IT, I BELIEVE I SAID IT DURING OUR CONVERSATION, THE LEGACY WEST, WE TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL WAY THAT THAT IS LIKE A CITY WITHIN A CITY THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE THOUGHT OF WHEN WE'RE THINKING IN TERMS OF THE CODE FOR THE CITY OF DE SOTO. GREAT, GREAT. MAYOR PRO TEM, I HAVE TWO CITIES, MANSFIELD AND GRAND PRAIRIE, MANSFIELD. BECAUSE OF THE THEIR SUBURBAN GROWTH IN THE WAY THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MASTER CORRIDOR OVERLAYS AND. THE TRANSITION FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL IS JUST CHEF'S KISS. AND THEN I WOULD SAY GRAND PRAIRIE FROM. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT MIXED USE AND HOW DO WE DO THAT EFFECTIVELY. AND I THINK GRAND PRAIRIE IS ALSO AN ORDINANCE AND REGULATION WISE, A GREAT CITY TO GLEAN OFF OF. ON HOW YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT IN THE REGULATION. OKAY, GREAT. COUNCIL MEMBER HUGHES. THANK YOU. LIKE MY COLLEAGUE SAID, LEGACY. I LOVE THAT AREA. AND THEN ALSO, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT ADDISON CIRCLE. SURE.

YEAH. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THIS IS OUR FINAL, FINAL QUESTION. ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOTABLE CHANGES YOU'D LIKE TO SEE AS A AS A RESULT OF THIS UPDATE? WE KIND OF CALL THIS YOUR YOUR ONE BIG THING. WHAT IS THE ONE MAJOR ITEM YOU'D LIKE TO SEE AS A RESULT? COUNCILMAN WESLEY. I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF OUR CODE IS FAVORABLE TO BUSINESSES TO WANT TO COME HERE OR DEVELOPERS WHO YOU KNOW, WHO WANT TO BUILD. SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TELL US IF IF WE'RE FAVORABLE OR IF WE'RE IF, OF COURSE, YOU'RE GOING TO TELL US THAT WE'RE OUTDATED, BUT WILL YOU BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH US WHAT FAVORABLE BUSINESSES WANT TO SEE IN THE CODE THAT ALSO HELPS OUR RESIDENTS? I MEAN, IT'S A TWO WAY STREET, SO. SURE. YES. AND THE ANSWER IS YES. THAT'S PART OF THE THE THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT WILL IDENTIFY THE AREAS THAT ARE HINDERING BUSINESS GROWTH OR DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY WITHIN THE CITY. SO YES, MAYOR PRO TEM ON THE REVERSE SIDE, I WANT TO HOLD OUR BUSINESSES ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE ESTHETICS THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR. SO MORE OF A MAINTENANCE SIDE WITHIN OUR CODE ORDINANCE AROUND THE PARKING LOT SIGNAGE AND INCREASING THAT. AND WHAT WE CURRENTLY ASK IN, IN IMPROVING, YOU KNOW, WHAT, RAISING THE BAR, BECAUSE THAT IS OFTENTIMES WHAT PEOPLE FIRST SEE AS THEY ENTER OUR CITY. GREAT. COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER. AND ONE LAST THING THAT I MEANT TO MENTION WHEN WE WERE TALKING IS I JUST VISITED SUGAR LAND IN HOUSTON OR RIGHT OUTSIDE OF HOUSTON. THAT LITTLE AREA. AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE PROACTIVELY RESTRUCTURED THAT ENTIRE AREA. AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS. AND THEY ARE THEY'RE STRICT TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE 30 DAY RULE THAT WE THE TEXAS 30 DAY RULE. SHOT. SHOT CLOCK. YES. SO THAT

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WOULD BE AN OPTION THAT WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO. THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. SO I'LL BRING THE SCHEDULE BACK UP REAL QUICK. SO WE'LL BE BACK HERE IN JULY. WE'LL WE'LL ACTUALLY BE SENDING THE DRAFT TO COUNCIL OR SORRY, CITY STAFF IN JULY AND HAVING A JOINT MEETING WITH PNC AND BOA TO REVIEW THAT. AFTER THEIR FEEDBACK, WE WILL MAKE UPDATES AND THEN SEND THAT DRAFT TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR REVIEW AND BE BACK HERE IN AUGUST TO FINALIZE. AND WE WILL TOUCH BASE WITH CITY STAFF TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT INVOLVED. SO GREAT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE. MAYOR, CAN I CLARIFY ONE THING REALLY QUICK ON THE ISSUE WE HAD A MINUTE AGO, APPARENTLY THE STREAMING SERVICE WAS NOT HAVING A PROBLEM GETTING THE PRESENTATION FEED DIRECTLY FROM THE PRESENTATION TO THE STREAM. THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SEEING. SO AS A WORKAROUND, THEY'RE NOW POINTING THE CAMERA DIRECTLY AT THE SCREEN SO THAT PEOPLE AT HOME CAN SEE IT. THANK YOU.

YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO A PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION ON THE STREAM BANK EROSION MITIGATION COST SHARE PROGRAM FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. MAKING A PRESENTATION IS THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AHMED OKC.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND MR. CITY MANAGER. THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE ON THE EROSION, MITIGATION OR COST SHARE PROGRAM THAT WE PRESENTED A COUPLE OF TIMES TO THE CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT, JUST TO KIND OF A QUICK RECAP, AND THEN WE'LL GO OVER SOME OF THE EXAMPLES AND SOME OF THE OTHER SCENARIOS FOR BUDGET AND PROGRAM DELIVERY. THAT'S ONE OF THE UPDATES WE THE LAST UPDATE ACTUALLY, WE CAME HERE IN FEBRUARY AND COUNCIL REQUESTED MORE INFORMATION. AND WE'RE COMING BACK TODAY WITH MORE INFORMATION AND ASKING FOR COUNCIL DIRECTION. JUST A QUICK RECAP. WE TALKED ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT FOCUSES ON HOMEOWNERS THAT, YOU KNOW, ABUT A CREEK, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOMEOWNERS, BUT IT'S A CITY COUNCIL INITIATIVE TO LAUNCH A COST SHARE PROGRAM WHERE THE CITY CAN PAY A PORTION AND RESIDENTS CAN CAN PAY THE OTHER PORTION TO MITIGATE THE EROSION.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE CITY MANAGING THEIR PROCUREMENT PROCESS ALONG WITH THE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND INSPECTION. WE TALKED ABOUT ANNUAL ALLOCATION OF $500,000 FROM THE DRAINAGE FUND FOR CONSTRUCTION AND 150 K FOR PROGRAM PROGRAM MANAGEMENT. BOTH FEES WILL COME FROM THE DRAINAGE FUND. TALKED ABOUT CAP, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT TODAY. AND WE TALKED ABOUT PROJECTS RANKED BY TOTAL SCORING. WE CONDUCTED OUTREACHES AND ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS WITH THE PUBLIC. AND WE DEVELOPED A EROSION MITIGATION BEST PRACTICES, WHICH IS AVAILABLE ONLINE. AND I HAVE A COPY OF IT IN THE PACKET. LET ME GO OVER THE APPENDICES REALLY QUICK. THE FIRST ONE, WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS LAST TIME. SO WE DID DEVELOP A Q&A FOLDER THAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE PACKET, ALONG WITH THE SCORING SHEET THAT WAS REQUESTED LAST TIME. AND THEN ALSO THE EROSION MITIGATION BEST PRACTICES THAT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE AND REALLY ADVISE OR ASK OUR RESIDENTS WITH EROSION ISSUES TO GO TO THE WEBSITE, GO TO ENGINEERING AND LOOK FOR THE BEST PRACTICES. IF YOU HAVE AN EROSION ISSUE THANKS TO YOUR PROPERTY, THEN THOSE WILL GIVE YOU THE BEST PRACTICES AND GUIDE YOU THROUGH THE NEXT STEPS. SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD. A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT WE DID IN DESOTO OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS. THAT'S ONE OF THE PROJECTS, CITY FUND. IT WAS 100% FUNDED BY THE CITY. 185 K AND THE TIMELINE WAS EIGHT MONTHS. SO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHEN YOU SEE THIS IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE YOU SEE A SEWER LINE THERE OR A STORM LINE. SO THOSE ARE ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. AND YOU SEE A BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURES. THE PICTURE AT THE BOTTOM IS THE BEFORE. AND THE PICTURE AT THE TOP IS THE AFTER. PROJECTS LIKE THIS COSTS ABOUT 185 K, WITH A TIMELINE OF EIGHT MONTHS.

ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. YOU SEE IT'S A BIGGER RETAINING WALL. SO YOU HAVE 275 K. THIS IS A FUNDING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND THE TIMELINE FOR THIS PROJECT IS 14 MONTHS. I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER THE DETAILS ON THIS ONE, BUT

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THIS IS JUST TO KIND OF TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA ABOUT WHEN YOU COMPARE THIS TO THE COST OF THE PROJECT. IF WE PUT THE SHARE, HOW DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR THE RESIDENTS? SO LET'S SAY A MINIMUM OF $100,000 PROJECT. AND IF WE DO THE 5050, THEN THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO PAY $50,000. SO THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ELIMINATED THE 5,050% AS ONE OF THE OPTIONS IN THIS UPDATE. THIS IS ONE OF THE SCENARIOS THAT WE NEED THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTION ON. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT, SO WE DID TAKE THE 5050 OUT. SO WE HAVE ONE OF THE OPTIONS. THE COST SHARE IS 75 AND 25%. CITY PAYS 25, RESIDENT PAYS 20. I'M SORRY. THE CITY PAYS 75 AND RESIDENT PAYS 25% OF THE COST OF THE PROJECT. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OTHER OPTIONS. THE FLAT RATE, WHICH IS THE $10,000 JUST FLAT, NO PERCENTAGE. AND THEN THE 2000. SO I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER HUGHES, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING LIKE A 10% OPTION. SO THE 10% IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE WE ADDED THE 20 K, IT WOULD FALL WITHIN THAT RANGE OF THE FLAT RATE OF EITHER 10 OR 20 K. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY EACH OPTION HAS ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE OPTION ON THE LEFT SIDE, CITY PAYS RESIDENTS PAY MORE. SO THAT MEANS THE CITY WILL WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS MORE PROJECTS. BUT THE PROGRAM WILL BE LESS ACCESSIBLE COMPARED TO THE OTHER OPTION. ON THE RIGHT SIDE, WE OBVIOUSLY WILL HAVE MORE ACCESSIBILITY FOR RESIDENTS BUT LESS PROJECTS. FINANCIAL OPTIONS. THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN QUESTIONS THAT WAS BROUGHT BY THE CITY COUNCIL LAST TIME. WE WERE ABLE TO, TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH PAYMENT SYSTEM WHERE RESIDENTS CAN PAY MONTHLY INSTALLMENTS INSTEAD. SO EVEN LET'S SAY WE GO TO 20 K OR TEN K OR ANY OPTION, THEN THE RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO PAY THE MONTHLY INSTALLMENTS. AND SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO REQUIRE THE ENTIRE AMOUNT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT. PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND DELIVERY. OBVIOUSLY, THAT WOULD ENTAIL THE COST SHARE COLLECTION, PROCUREMENT PROCESS DESIGN, PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN THE DELIVERY OF THE PROJECT. SO ON THAT, WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS AS WELL FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO SELECT THE OTHER. THE FIRST OPTION ON THE LEFT SIDE IS AS AN IN-HOUSE OPTION. THIS IS WHEN WE HIRE A PE ENGINEER PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ENTIRE PROGRAM. AND WE, WE GOT WITH HR AND WE CAME TO AN ESTIMATED NUMBER OF 140 4K, AND THAT WOULD BE FUNDED FROM THE DRAINAGE FUND. THE OTHER OPTION IS WE CAN OUTSOURCE IT. WE CAN BRING A CONSULTANT AND HAVE THE CONSULTANT DO IT. AND THE COST IS APPROXIMATELY 150 K. AGAIN ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES. AND YOU KNOW, IF WE IF WE GIVE IT TO CONSULTANT, THEN WE'RE TRANSFERRING THE RISK FROM THE CITY TO THE CONSULTANT. BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE LOSING THE FASTER COORDINATION OR BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE. AND ALSO THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE WE WILL BE FLEXIBLE, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE OPTION IS BEING ABLE TO HANDLE THIS PROJECT IN-HOUSE. I DO WANT TO MENTION THIS PROGRAM ACTUALLY IS BEING DEVELOPED IN-HOUSE, WHICH SAVES APPROXIMATELY 150 K FOR THE CITY. SO WE HAVE THIS EXPERTISE. WE CAN OBVIOUSLY DELIVER THE PROGRAM IN-HOUSE. SOME OF THE ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM OPTIONS THAT WE CAN GO OVER. JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL IS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE FLAT RATES OR PERCENTAGES. WE CAN DO SCALE SYSTEM, SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND THE OTHER DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD ABOUT THE CITY CONTRIBUTION CAP, AND WE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT CAPS. SO WE HAVE I HAVE THREE OPTIONS THERE. 152 50 K AND THEN NO CAP. I WOULD SAY WHATEVER THAT WE SELECT ON THE ON THE COST SHARE SIDE, THAT WOULD KIND OF DICTATE OR GUIDE THE CITY CONTRIBUTION CAP. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, DOING THE MATH. I BELIEVE IF WE SELECT THE 75, 25%, THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND A CAP BETWEEN 150 TO 200. BUT THEN IF WE SELECT THE FLAT RATE, THE TEN K OR 20 K, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE THE CAP TO 250 K. KIND OF THE SAME CONCEPT. ACCESSIBILITY AND NUMBER OF PROJECTS WOULD YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE CAN MAKE THE PROGRAM MORE ACCESSIBLE, LESS BURDEN ON THE RESIDENT, BUT

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OBVIOUSLY LESS PROJECTS. INFORMATION AND SUPPORT. WHEN WE COLLECT THE COUNCIL DIRECTIONS, WE'LL HAVE WORKSHOPS TO EXPLAIN THE APPLICATIONS AND THE PROGRAM.

WHAT IS THIS PROGRAM ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY AND ALL TO THE RESIDENTS. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE INTEND TO DO, TO HAVE A COUPLE OF WORKSHOPS IN PERSON AND VIRTUAL AT DIFFERENT TIMES TO PROVIDE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO OUR RESIDENTS, AND THEN NEXT STEPS, BASICALLY TODAY IS PROVIDING THE MORE INFORMATION ALONG WITH THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. IF WE WERE ABLE TO KNOCK THIS OUT TONIGHT, THEN WE WILL DEVELOP THE FRAMEWORK AND DRAFT ORDINANCE WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND THEN WE COME BACK TO YOU WITH THE DRAFT OF THE ORDINANCE. SO THAT WOULD NOT BE A FINAL. BASICALLY, THIS IS WHEN WE COME UP WITH THE DRAFT OF THE ORDINANCE. WE COME BACK TO YOU. WE PRESENT THAT TO YOU ONE MORE TIME. IF YOU LIKE IT, THEN WE'LL COME BACK AT A LATER DATE AND AND DO THE ADOPTION OR THE FINAL APPROVAL, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE ANTICIPATE TO BE IN SEPTEMBER 2026. AND THEN ONCE WE KNOCK THIS ONE OUT, THEN WE WILL LAUNCH THE PROGRAM AND OPEN UP APPLICATIONS, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SELECT PROJECTS IN OCTOBER 2026. CITY COUNCIL REQUEST. TONIGHT, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE YOUR DIRECTION ON FOUR OF THE ITEMS. NUMBER ONE IS THE COST SHARE. NUMBER TWO IS THE PROGRAM DELIVERY. NUMBER THREE, THE CITY CONTRIBUTION CAP. AND AND THEN IF WE IF WE AGREE ON ALL THOSE, THEN WE WOULD LOVE TO GET YOUR CONCURRENCE TO ACTUALLY BEGIN DRAFTING THE ORDINANCE. WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. AL CASEY. AND AS YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG STANDING ISSUE.

AND SO THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR WORKING SO DILIGENTLY TO BRING SOME OPTIONS BEFORE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER TO ASSIST OUR RESIDENTS WITH THIS. I WANT TO CLARIFY, AND YOU ALREADY GOT AHEAD OF ME WITH WHAT YOU ALL NEED FROM US TONIGHT. SO I APPRECIATE THIS SLIDE ALSO. BUT CAN YOU CLARIFY THE THE SECOND REQUEST OF COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON PROGRAM DELIVERY? IS THAT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YES, MA'AM. THAT'S THAT WOULD BE SLIDE NUMBER 14, WHICH IS WHAT DOES THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO DO? IS IT IN-HOUSE OR, YOU KNOW, HIRE AN OUTSOURCE IT BASICALLY WITH A CONSULTANT? OKAY. AND THEN LAST QUESTION, THE LAST THING YOU NEEDED FROM US, GO BACK TO THAT LAST SLIDE. THAT WOULD BE THE CITY CONTRIBUTION CAP. THE CONTRIBUTION CAP. NO, THERE WAS THE YEAH. HERE IT IS. CONCURRENCE ON BEGINNING THE DRAFT ORDINANCE. YES, MA'AM. BEGIN. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL. WE DO HAVE A TWO MINUTE ROUNDS FOR THIS ONE AS WELL, MISS KIRBY. COUNCIL MEMBER. PARKER, I THINK I SAW YOUR LIGHT FIRST. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR DOCUMENT. AND THANK YOU FOR THE EDUCATION THAT YOU GAVE THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHAT'S WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING. AND I ALSO ENJOY THAT ON HERE. THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME INFORMATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO CARE FOR CREEKS AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD POINT. I DO WANT TO ASK, WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF THE CAP OR THE CONTRIBUTION.

WAY, THE WAY WE DECIDE IN THE CITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS PROJECT.

DOES THAT INCLUDE ALL OF ANY POSSIBLE GRANTS THAT COULD POSSIBLY I MEAN, IS IT GRANT ON THE CITY SIDE OR IS. I MEAN, ARE WE ALSO HELPING OUR COMMUNITY WITH SOME GRANTS ON THEIR SIDE? IS IT BOTH OR IS IT JUST ONE SIDED? THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. SO NO, THIS IS FROM THE DRAINAGE FUND. THIS IS NOT FROM GRANTS. WE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, PURSUE DIFFERENT GRANTS. WE'RE WORKING ON A COUPLE FOR FROM, YOU KNOW, ARPA AND INDIVIDUAL FUND. AND BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE FOR THIS PROGRAM, THIS PROGRAM, THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM WILL BE ALLOCATED FROM THE DRAINAGE FUND ONLY. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, AND EVEN IF WE WERE TO HELP EDUCATE OUR PUBLIC ON MAYBE A WAY THAT THEY CAN GET THE FUNDING BECAUSE IT STILL IS A DRASTIC. EITHER WAY, YOU LOOK AT THAT 10,000. I'M WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION BEFORE. 10,000. I DON'T KNOW VERY MANY PEOPLE JUST SITTING AROUND WITH TEN 000 TO GO TOWARDS THE DRAINAGE OR IN SOME CASES, 5000. SO THE WAYS TO FIND A WAY. I KNOW THAT PAYMENT PLAN WAS THE WAY THAT THE CITY IS HELPING THEM TO PAY, AND THAT'S A WONDERFUL WAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR ADDING THAT. BUT I DO WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO MAYBE EDUCATE THEM OR HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THE, THE WHOLE GRANT PIECE, BECAUSE THAT MIGHT HELP THEM ON THE SIDE OF PAYING FOR IT AS WELL. CERTAINLY. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON IS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOME OF THE GRANTS AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OUR CONSULTANT TO LIKE, HOW DO WE,

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IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RESIDENTS TO APPLY FOR GRANTS, HOW DO WE EDUCATE THEM OR PROVIDE MATERIALS IN THE SPORT THAT THAT WE CAN PROVIDE FOR THEM TO PURSUE THOSE GRANTS? THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNCILMEMBER HUGHES, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, AND THANK YOU. AMAZING JOB. I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU ENOUGH. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR ANNIVERSARY. COULD YOU HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WOULD NEED WITH A CONSULTANT? WHY? THAT'S A CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR YOUR QUESTION. SO IT COULD BE REALLY DONE EITHER WAY. USUALLY CITIES, YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY OUTSOURCE A LOT OF THE SERVICES.

AND, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN A SERVICE IS LIKE VERY HIGH TECHNICAL AND YOU DON'T NEED IT A LOT. LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY IF A BRIDGE ENGINEER, WE DON'T DEAL WITH THE BRIDGE EVERY DAY IN THE CITY OF DESOTO. SO LIKE IN THOSE CASES, WE WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE SOURCE THESE OUT. SO THIS IS ALWAYS AN OPTION FOR CITIES TO GO AFTER. IN THIS CASE, WE'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS INITIATIVE, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF A LOT OF APPLICATIONS, FIELD VISITS AND PROCUREMENT AND DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AND ALL. SO WE LOOKED INTERNALLY AND WE SAID, OKAY, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WE COULD STILL GO WITH THE CONSULTANT OR WE COULD ADD A POSITION, A PE ENGINEER TO, TO THE STAFF THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAM, MEANING THAT THAT PERSON WILL ENGAGE WITH THE RESIDENTS, WILL DO THE FIELD VISITS, WILL REVIEW THE APPLICATION, AND WILL OVERSEE THE PROGRAM DELIVERY FROM A TO Z. SO INSTEAD OF BRINGING, YOU KNOW, A CONSULTANT, I HOPE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. IT DID IT DID I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING IN-HOUSE. SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING CONSULTANT.

THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. AGAIN, ANOTHER PROGRAM COMING THIS WAY. I ACTUALLY LIKE THE OPTION, WHICH I THINK IS THE FIRST TIME. EXCUSE ME, MAYOR PRO TEM MISS KIRBY, CAN WE START OUR TIME? NO, NO, NO. OH, YOU MEAN START IT OVER? YEAH, I ACTUALLY LIKE THE OPTION OF THE TWO. THE OF CHOOSING BETWEEN AN EMPLOYEE FULL TIME VERSUS A CONSULTANT.

SO I THANK YOU IN PRIOR CONVERSATIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING CONSULTANT. THAT QUESTION HAS COME UP BEFORE. WHY DON'T WE HAVE SOMEONE INTERNALLY. SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE I LOVE THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT THAT LEAVES THE CITY WITH AS WELL, AND NOT SOMEONE THAT'S JUST HERE TO GO. AND I ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHILE I CAN UNDERSTAND MY COLLEAGUE'S PERSPECTIVE ON IS THE CITY LOOKING FOR EXTERNAL GRANTS? AND I KNOW YOU ARE, THERE ARE SEVERAL OUT THERE. THERE ARE ALSO OTHER OPTIONS FOR A RESIDENT TO GET PAYMENT OR TO GET HELP WITH FINANCING AS WELL. I MEAN, THE TEXAS WATER BOARD EVEN DOES LOW FINANCING PAYMENT OPTIONS TO HELP WITH ITEMS LIKE THIS AS WELL. WHEN ARE YOU ALL GOING TO USE THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN FOR THOSE GRANT CONVERSATIONS? BECAUSE I IMAGINE YOU DON'T. WELL, BECAUSE YOU YOU ALL DO HAVE PROJECTS ALREADY QUEUED THAT YOU KNOW THAT ARE PRIORITY FOR GRANT GRANTS NOW, TODAY. SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, USING THE DRAINAGE PLAN MASTER PLAN AS WELL FOR TO ADDRESSING THE GRANT PERSPECTIVE. AND THEN FROM A FUNDING PERSPECTIVE, IF WE, IF WE, IF WE AGREE TODAY AND ALL GOES WELL, THEN FUNDING WISE, HOW, WHAT MONEY DO YOU HAVE TODAY TO TO HELP WITH THAT PROJECT WITH A PROJECT? THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MA'AM. FIRST QUESTION IN REGARD TO GRANTS. SO THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF HAVING A MASTER PLAN. WHEN WE APPLY FOR A GRANT, WE'RE SHOWING THEM WE'RE READY. WE HAVE OUR SOPS, WE HAVE OUR STANDARDS, WE HAVE OUR MASTER PLAN. SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT WILL BE USED WHEN WE PURSUE ANY PLAN OR ANY GRANTS. AND THEN WE WOULD SHOW THEM, WE WOULD PUT THAT ON THE APPLICATION AND SHOW THEM THAT WE'RE READY. WE HAVE THOSE CONCERNS AND WE CAN ADDRESS THEM IF WE GET THE MONEY FROM YOU. SO OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE OPTIONS. AND THEN WHEN IT'S A GREAT POINT, BECAUSE WHEN WE DO THE WORKSHOPS, ONE OF THE ITEMS SHOULD BE AROUND, YOU KNOW, HOW TO APPLY FOR GRANTS AND WHAT DO YOU DO? WHAT WOULD BE YOUR RESOURCES AND HOW DO WE SUPPORT YOU? SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT INCLUDED IN THE WORKSHOP. IN REGARD TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION, HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE ALMOST 2.4 MILLION FROM 2025 FROM THE DRAINAGE FUND ONLY. WE ESTIMATE

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ESTIMATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 2.97 IN THE DRAINAGE FUND FOR 2026, AND AN ESTIMATE OF 3.3 MILLION IN 2027. SO WE HAVE, LET'S SAY ON AVERAGE 3 MILLION EVERY YEAR. AND THEN SO BASICALLY, OUT OF THE 3 MILLION WE WILL GET OUT. WE WOULD GET 500 K OUT OF THE 3 MILLION IT WILL BE ALLOCATED FOR THIS PROGRAM. I LIKE THAT, AND BECAUSE YOU TALK DURING MY MY TIME, I JUST I'M TRYING TO SQUEEZE THIS IN WITH THAT CONVERSATION WE HAD EARLIER TODAY ABOUT TRANSFERS. WOULD THAT IMPACT YOUR DRAINAGE FUND AS WELL? YES, MA'AM. THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY FROM THE DRAINAGE FUND. SO AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT TOO, BECAUSE I HEARD IN OUR CONSULTANT TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE FUND IS BEING ONE OF THE OPTIONS, BUT THE DRAINAGE FUND IS THERE ISN'T A LOT OF, I MEAN, GOOD MONEY, 3 MILLION, BUT NOT COMPARES TO OTHER PROGRAMS. SO, YOU KNOW, ANY TIME WE TAP ON THOSE PROJECTS AND WE WILL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, THEN THE FUNDING WILL BE REDUCED. SO ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING WITH DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND FINANCE DIRECTOR IS TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE EXPLORE LIKE A DEBT SERVICE FOR DRAINAGE FUND, BUT THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION THAT WOULD BRING UP TO YOU NEXT TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. YES. CAN YOU SEE IF ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO LEND THEIR TIME? I HAVE SOME TIME. ANYBODY GOT ANY TIME? I JUST HAVE A 32ND QUESTION. IF YOU TAKE THAT LONG, GIVE ME MY TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN WATERS. I JUST HAD A QUESTION.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FUNDING. HAVE WE CONSIDERED PARTNERING WITH A BANK THAT MIGHT COULD HELP HOMEOWNERS? YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY THEY COULD DO A HOME EQUITY LOAN OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. WHEN IT GETS DOWN TO IT, IF THEY'RE NEEDING ASSISTANCE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. YEAH, WE LOOKED AT IT. WE'LL WE'LL START TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN.

THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN WESLEY, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? THIS IS REALLY GOING TO HELP OUR OUR RESIDENTS, OUR CITIZENS HERE. WE HAD SOME HIGH PUBLICIZED, YOU KNOW, ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO THIS AND THINKING ABOUT THAT. IS THERE GOING TO BE AN OPTION TO MAYBE WAIVE. THEIR THEIR INITIAL FEE OR DOWN PAYMENT? DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? I MEAN, I MEAN, IF IT'S REALLY NEEDED AND IT'S, IT'S NOT ONLY HURTING THE RESIDENT, BUT ALSO THE CITY, IS THERE ANY DO WE CONSIDER WAIVING THAT FEE THEIR PORTION? OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND CONGRATULATIONS ON JOINING THE CITY COUNCIL. IT COULD BE ONE OF THE OPTIONS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN DECIDE INSTEAD OF GOING WITH TEN K, GOING WITH, YOU KNOW, $0. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD ALSO IMPACT THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THE OTHER. AND WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS WERE, OKAY, SO HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, EXCLUDE SOME OF THE PEOPLE AND, AND CONTINUE TO HAVE THE SAME TRANSPARENCY? WE'LL LOOK AT IT AGAIN WITH INTERNALLY AND WITH, WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE. THANK YOU. MAYOR, AS, AS AS YOU WERE DISCUSSING THIS, JUST JUST AN IDEA CAME INTO MIND AND WANT TO SHARE IT WITH WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, IF YOU DON'T MIND. NOW, NOT EVERY PROJECT IS GOING TO BE $10,000 OR $15,000 OR $20,000. THERE COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, LET'S SAY, IF THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDES, LOOK, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE HALF $1 MILLION EVERY YEAR, WE KNOW THAT ONE OF THE PROJECTS IS GOING TO BE A BIG PROJECT, COULD BE $200,000. SO WE WE WILL TELL YOU A CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF THAT YOU CAN YOU CAN AUTHORIZE ONE PROJECT IN THE 200 000 RANGE. YOU CAN AUTHORIZE TWO PROJECTS IN THE $50,000 RANGE AND SO ON. SO YOU CAN BREAK IT DOWN INTO THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO TAKE CARE OF. AGAIN, THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT SCOURING PROJECTS.

THERE'S SOME MINOR SCOURING PROJECTS. ONE IS TEN 0001, AS YOU'VE SEEN IN THE PICTURES, IS ALMOST $200,000. SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL, CAN CAN KIND OF CARVE IT OUT AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH THAT. THE OTHER THING IS YOU'VE YOU'VE BROUGHT A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT, WHICH IS SOME OF THE SOME OF THE CITIZENS, SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS CANNOT AFFORD ANYTHING. AND SO THE IDEA COULD BE ABOUT REALLY CREATING A SCORING SYSTEM. AND IF A, IF, IF A COMMUNITY MEMBER IS ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE, THEN THEY GET BONUS POINTS IN THE SENSE IT STILL IS NOT ATTACKING THE, THE ACTUAL, THE, THE ISSUE

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ITSELF. BUT IF THERE IS A, IF THERE IS A MAJOR SCOURING ISSUE, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. THEN IF THE CITIZEN CAN AFFORD IT, THEN IF YOU HAVE EQUAL PROJECTS, ONE WITH, YOU KNOW, ONE WITH CITIZEN CONTRIBUTION AND ONE WITHOUT, THEN THE ONE WITH THE CITIZEN CONTRIBUTION COULD PREVAIL BECAUSE OF THE ASSISTANCE THAT THE PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, THE PRIVATE PERSON COULD, COULD, COULD BRING TO US. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND BRING BACK TO YOU. I THINK THE GOAL FOR US IS TO KIND OF HONE IN ON WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IN TERMS OF A DOLLAR FIGURE FOR US TO REALLY, TRULY NOW DEVELOP A TRUE PROGRAM, TO SAY, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS. THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER. AND WE DO HAVE OUR FOUR REQUESTS TONIGHT. HOWEVER, I DO HAVE THREE QUESTIONS, SO I WANT TO GO AHEAD. MISS KIRBY, IF YOU COULD GIVE ME MY TWO MINUTES. I DO HAVE THREE QUESTIONS. SO WHEN YOU HOSTED A MEETING, I THINK THE MEETING MIGHT HAVE BEEN THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN LAST YEAR OR EARLIER THIS YEAR WHEN YOU HOSTED A TOWN HALL MEETING. I SEE SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT WERE AT THAT SAME MEETING IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE OR. I ASKED THE QUESTION RATHER ABOUT WHAT DID WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE AVERAGE COST OF THESE PROJECTS ARE FOR ALL THE OUTSTANDING PROJECTS, THERE WERE SEVERAL RESIDENTS WHO CAME WITH VARYING DEGREES OF OF ISSUES WITH THEIR, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS PARTICULAR WITH EROSION. AND SO DID WE EVER GET TO AN AVERAGE COST OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE BECAUSE WE'RE THROWING OUT NUMBERS 200 000 VERSUS A $20,000 PROJECT. DO WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT, WHAT THAT AVERAGE COST OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, AGAIN, TO DETERMINE SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM US. THE SECOND THING IS, AND I HEARD THE CITY MANAGER KIND OF GIVE SOME SOME POSSIBILITIES OF THINGS WE COULD ADD INTO THE SCORING MATRIX. AND I MIGHT HAVE MISSED THIS, BUT HAS THE SCORING MATRIX ALREADY BEEN CREATED IN TERMS OF HOW YOU ALL WOULD PRIORITIZE THOSE PROJECT REQUESTS? SO WHEN A RESIDENT SAYS, HEY, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY PROJECT CONSIDERED AS THE MATRIX FOR HOW THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE CONSIDERED AND IN THE ORDER THEY'LL BE DONE. AND HAS THAT BEEN CREATED? MY LAST THING IS, IS TALKING ABOUT THE FINANCING OF IT. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE HOMEOWNERS PORTION IN TERMS OF, I KNOW THERE WAS A SLIDE IN THERE AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT EVEN AT THE LAST ONE, AND WE USE THE WORD LEAN. BUT I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER WORD THAT YOU ALL WERE USING INSTEAD OF NECESSARILY IF THE CITY FUNDS IT OR IF WE FINANCE IT OUT FOR THEM, THEN THERE WOULD BE A LIEN OR SOME SORT OF A MECHANISM ATTACHED TO THE PROPERTY ITSELF TO HELP THE CITY RECOUP FUNDS. SHOULD THE HOMEOWNER FAIL TO PAY THAT PORTION OF THE OF THE OF THE AMOUNT. AND SO ONE OF MY THOUGHTS IS I STRUGGLE WITH PUTTING LIENS ON PEOPLE'S HOMES AS FROM THE CITY. I MEAN, I KNOW THERE ARE TIMES WHEN IT'S NECESSARY AND IT HAS TO BE DONE. I ACTUALLY STRUGGLE WITH THAT. SO COULD WE CONSIDER OUTSIDE LENDERS THAT WOULD TAKE THAT FINANCING ON AND TECHNICALLY PAY THE CITY WHAT THE HOMEOWNER OWES, AND THEN THE HOMEOWNER IS LEFT TO DEAL WITH THE FINANCING COMPANY AT THAT POINT SO THAT THE CITY IS NOT IN A POSITION TO, NUMBER ONE, BE KEEPING UP WITH ALL OF THESE FUNDING ISSUANCES. I DON'T THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO BE IN THAT BUSINESS AND THEN HAVE THEM TO PAY THAT TO THE CITY, AND THEN THE HOMEOWNERS THEN AT THAT POINT LEFT TO DEAL WITH THE FINANCING COMPANY ON THEIR OWN. SO THOSE ARE MY THREE QUESTIONS. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS. MISS KIRBY, IF YOU COULD PUT THE PRESENTATION ON, PLEASE. THE FIRST QUESTION IS ABOUT THE AVERAGE COST OF PROJECTS. SO WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AND BASICALLY ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE PAST 5 TO 10 YEARS, THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND, WHICH IS THE ONES THAT WE HAVE IN THIS PRESENTATION. IT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT A LOT, BUT IT GIVES YOU A GOOD IDEA ABOUT THE AVERAGE OF THE COST OF THE PROJECT. WE WE WENT TO THE CITY OF GARLAND. SO, YOU KNOW, KEEP IN MIND THAT CITY OF GARLAND IS THE ONLY ONE THAT THAT IS DOING IT. THEY HAVE AN ORDINANCE. AND WE REACHED OUT TO THEM AGAIN FOR PROJECTS. AND THEY DID REPEAL THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THEY HAD A 50, 50% AND NOT A LOT OF RESIDENTS PARTICIPATED IN IT. SO, SO THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE TOOK THE 5050 OUT. SO UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FIND MANY PROJECTS. BUT WE DO BELIEVE BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE AND BASED ON LIKE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, THE REASONABLE PRICE WILL BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 100 K TO 300 K OR 250, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY EXPENSIVE. SO IN REGARD TO QUESTION NUMBER TWO, YES, MA'AM. WE WERE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE SCORING MATRIX. IT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ATTACHMENTS OR ONE OF THE

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APPENDICES IN THE PACKET. AND THEN AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE, WE BROKE IT DOWN TO MULTIPLE OPTIONS. YOU KNOW, THE SEVERITY OF THE OF THE ISSUE, THE SLOPE OF THE EMBANKMENT. AND WE'VE GOT SOME RATIOS AND THE TYPE OF PROJECT AS WELL. SO THIS IS BASICALLY WHEN WE GET A, AN APPLICATION, WE WILL REVIEW THE APPLICATION AND WE WILL USE THIS FORM TO SCORE THE APPLICATION. AND THE HIGHEST SCORE WILL WILL BE SELECTED. IN REGARD TO THE THIRD QUESTION THE FINANCE OPTIONS AND LEAN. BASED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD LAST TIME WE TOOK THE OPTION OUT. SO WE'RE NOT PUTTING A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY. IF THEY LET'S SAY THEY DIDN'T, THEY DON'T PAY THE $20,000 OR THE $10,000. WE ARE STILL EXPLORING WAYS TO LIKE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD HAPPEN. A RESIDENT THAT DOESN'T PAY, YOU KNOW, THEIR MONTHLY INSTALLMENTS, THEN WHAT DO WE DO? WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT IN REGARD TO DEALING WITH LIKE A LENDER. WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW IF IF YOU WANT TO COVER THAT QUESTION. SURE. WE CAN DEFINITELY HELP THE RESIDENTS AND PUT THEM IN TOUCH WITH LENDERS AND, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE FINANCIAL LITERACY THERE. BUT AS FAR AS BEING, YOU KNOW, A PART OF THE TRANSACTION, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WOULD NOT BE A PART OF THE TRANSACTION ITSELF. IT WOULD BE BETWEEN THE LENDER AND THE RESIDENT. THAT WAS ACTUALLY MY THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING, IS THAT THE CITY DOES NOT GET INTO CARRYING A NOTE PER SE, FOR THESE TYPES OF TRANSACTIONS. IT'S WHY I'M ASKING, COULD WE COULD WE DEVELOP PARTNERSHIPS WITH LENDERS, RIGHT. THAT COULD DO LOW INTEREST, LOW INTEREST TYPE OF FUNDING FOR THE RESIDENTS, FOR THEIR PORTION, SHOULD THE RESIDENT NEED IT, SO THAT IT DOES PULL THE CITY OUT OF CARRYING NOTES FOR THESE TYPES OF THINGS, JUST IN CASE WE GET INTO RESIDENTS EVENTUALLY HAVING AN INABILITY TO PAY. IT JUST I JUST FEEL LIKE IT PUTS THE CITY IN A PLACE THAT I DON'T I DON'T REALLY WANT US TO BE IN WITH OUR HOMEOWNERS THAT WAY. SURE. YES. WE WOULD NOT BE A PARTICIPANT IN IT. SO WE WOULD BASICALLY DO OUR BEST TO PUT THE THE RESIDENTS IN TOUCH WITH THE FINANCIAL ORGANIZATIONS WHO COULD POSSIBLY ASSIST THEM, BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE A DIRECT HAND IN THE TRANSACTION ITSELF. AND THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ANOTHER GOOD TOPIC FOR THE WORKSHOP. SO WHEN WE GET GET TO THE WORKSHOPS AND EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS ON THE GROUNDS AND THE APPLICATIONS AND WE ENGAGE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND, AND WE EDUCATE THEM ON THIS PIECE AS WELL. CERTAINLY, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO ADD ON THAT POINT, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE CONSIDERED THAT SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT NOT QUALIFY IF THEY HAVE TO GO TO A BANK. SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND. CREDIT SCORE MIGHT NOT ALLOW THEM TO JUST SIMPLY GO GET A LOAN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, SO COUNCIL, WE HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH FOUR THINGS. FIRST, WE NEED TO ATTACK THE QUESTION OF WHAT WOULD WE DESIRE FOR COST SHARE OPTIONS. I'M OF THE MINDSET OF A FLAT RATE. I THINK IT SIMPLIFIES THE PROCESS. I THINK IT COULD HELP, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY MEAN LESS PROJECTS, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN LESS PROJECTS, BUT IT COULD. I JUST FEEL LIKE IT SIMPLIFIES THE PROCESS FOR THE RESIDENTS AND FOR THE CITY, BECAUSE IT COULD HELP THEM ANTICIPATE, AGAIN, IF I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE $10,000, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE $10,000, BUT 75 TO 25%. THAT NUMBER VARIES, AND IT IS NOT GOOD FOR PLANNING FOR RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY NEED TO BE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH.

SO THAT'S THAT'S MY THOUGHT. EVEN IF THEY'RE EVEN IF THEY'RE EVEN IF THEIR PROJECT IS NOT ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS THAT WE'LL DO DOWN THE ROAD, IF THEIR PROJECT IS SELECTED IN YEAR TWO, THEY STILL KNOW IT'S $10,000. AND THAT MAY GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP WITH $10,000 BY THE TIME THEIR PROJECT COMES UP IN THE PIPELINE. SO I WOULD BE A PROPONENT TO SUPPORT A FLAT RATE, BUT COUNCIL, THAT'S A COUNCIL DECISION. IF WE COULD KIND OF GET I'M GOING TO START TO MY LEFT. COUNCIL MEMBER HUGHES. THAT'S YOUR RIGHT. FLAT RATE 10,000 OR IS IT BOTH? YOU MAY SELECT BETWEEN 10,000 AND 20. OR YOU COULD EVEN DO 15 FLAT RATE TEN. I WOULD SAY TEN AS WELL. COUNCIL MEMBER HUGHES ARE YOU SUGGESTING 10 OR 20? YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO GIVE AWAY MONEY. SO I WOULD SAY 2020. YOU WANT THEM TO PAY 20 OR YOU WANT THEM TO PAY TEN. SO I'M SAYING THE FLAT RATE IS WHAT THE RESIDENT WOULD PAY. SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING THEY PAY 10,000 OR 5020 10,000 IF THAT'S THE LOWEST. OKAY. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER NORTH FLAT RATE TEN. COUNCILMAN WESLEY. FLAT RATE TEN. COUNCIL MEMBER WATERS

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7525. COUNCIL MEMBER. PARKER. OH, I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE BY MYSELF ON THIS ONE, BUT I SAID 75, 25 AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE FOR THE COST SHARE, WE HAVE A CONSENSUS OF A FLAT RATE OF 10,000. SO THERE'S YOUR FIRST ANSWER. ALL RIGHT. YES, MA'AM. PROGRAM DELIVERY. PROGRAM DELIVERY. MEANING WHETHER WE WANT TO BRING SOMEONE IN-HOUSE OR WHETHER WE WANT TO OUTSOURCE IT. NOW, ALSO BRINGING SOMEONE IN-HOUSE, DEPENDING ON THE THE TIMELINE OF THE PROJECT COULD MEAN HAVING TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. UNLESS WE DO AN AMENDMENT, WOULD THAT COULD THAT MEAN THAT? SO SO REALLY, WE CAN ACCESS THE DRAINAGE FUND AT ANY TIME. SO IF WE GET A DIRECTION, THEN AFTER THE DIRECTION TODAY WE CAN GO, WE CAN WORK WITH THE HR DIRECTOR. AND THEN BECAUSE THAT THIS IS NOT A GENERAL FUND, IT DOESN'T COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND. IT COMES FROM THE DRAINAGE FUND. SO WE'LL STILL HAVE TO GO AND, AND DO AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE BUDGET REGARDLESS OF THE FUND. YES, BECAUSE WE WILL BE USING FUND BALANCE OUT OF THE DRAINAGE FUND. SO WE WOULD NEED TO BUDGET FOR THAT. OKAY, I'M GOING TO START THIS TIME TO MY LEFT. COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I'M SORRY, I JUST HAD ONE QUALIFYING QUESTION TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID. SO EITHER WAY, EITHER OF THESE TWO, YOU HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT. SURE. YES, MA'AM. WE WOULD. I'LL I'LL.

YEAH. THERE YOU GO. I'M STARTING TO MY LEFT. COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER, DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE? I DON'T HAVE A RESPONSE. COUNCILMAN WATERS, THIS IS THE IN HOUSE, RIGHT? EXCUSE ME. I WANT IN IN HOUSE. THANK YOU. IF THIS IS ABOUT HELPING PEOPLE AND WHAT GETS IT DONE QUICKER, FASTER AND EFFICIENT. I'M GOING WITH IN HOUSE. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO RETAIN THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND FASTER COORDINATION. OBVIOUSLY, THESE ARE EVERY PROJECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. SO I WOULD DEFINITELY SELECT SOMEBODY IN HOUSE. COUNCIL MEMBER NORTH IN HOUSE IN HOUSE IN HOUSE. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN PARKER, DID YOU WANT TO CONTRIBUTE OR ARE WE GOOD? WE'RE GOOD WITH IN HOUSE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE THE ANSWER TO THE SECOND WE DOING COUNCIL HAS A CONSENSUS ON IN HOUSE. OKAY. THE CONTRIBUTION CAP 152 50 NO CAP AT ALL. MEANING THE CONTRIBUTION CAP OF THE PROJECT ITSELF. AND THAT IS INCLUSIVE OF THE TEN K, LIKE JUST THE OVERALL PROJECT DOES NOT NEED TO EXCEED A CERTAIN NUMBER INCLUSIVE OF THE TEN. THAT WOULD BE OUR CONTRIBUTION.

THAT'S OUR CONTRIBUTION WITHOUT THE TEN K. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. SO THE COUNCIL HAS SELECTED TO DO THE TEN K FLAT RATE AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING 250 COUNCIL. AGAIN THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION.

SO THAT MEANS WITH A CAP OF 250 THAT MEANS APPROXIMATELY TWO PROJECTS. THEY MEET THAT CAP TWO PROJECTS A YEAR. NOW AGAIN AND AGAIN I'M THROWING OUT ALL THE HYPOTHETICALS BECAUSE THESE ARE THINGS THAT COULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN. RIGHT? SO IF WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT IS A PRIORITY PROJECT AND THAT PROJECT RISES TO THE TOP, WE HAVE THE TEN K FLAT RATE THAT WE'RE SAYING THE RESIDENT HAS TO CONTRIBUTE, BUT MAYBE THE PROJECT EXCEEDS ALL OF THAT, RIGHT. AND THERE'S STILL A BALANCE THAT THE CITY HAS A CAP ON WHAT THEY'LL CONTRIBUTE. AND THE OWNER HAS THEIR PORTION, BUT THERE'S STILL AN OUTSTANDING BALANCE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT. BUT IT IS A JOINT PROJECT. HOW WILL WE APPROACH THOSE? SO UNFORTUNATELY, NO, IF WE PUT IN MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN HELP YOU WITH THIS, BUT IF WE PUT A CAP IN, THEN WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO EXCEED THE CAP REGARDLESS OF THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT. THAT THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. COULD THE HOMEOWNER CONTRIBUTE THE BALANCE, THOUGH? IS THAT WHAT WE WOULD? IS THAT HOW THE PROJECT COULD GET DONE? SO TRUE. LIKE IF, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THE PROJECT IS 270, FOR INSTANCE, THEN THE CITY PAYS THE MAXIMUM CAP, WHICH IS 250, AND THEN THE RESIDENT ALREADY PUT IN TEN K AND WE'RE SHORT BY ANOTHER TEN K. THE RESIDENT IS WILLING TO PUT IN THE THE OTHER TEN K TO FIX IT. THEN THAT WOULD RESOLVE THE ISSUE. SO WE'LL KEEP THE LANGUAGE FLEXIBLE IN THE ORDINANCE. YES. SO WE WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING THAT WE COULD NOT ACTUALLY FIX THE PROBLEM. SO LIKE IF THE 250 AND THE OUTSIDE BALANCE WOULDN'T GET IT ALL THE WAY TO THE FINISH LINE, WE JUST WOULDN'T DO THAT PROJECT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES,

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MA'AM. CITY MANAGER I'LL SAY. AND I, I HATE DOING THAT TO TO MY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY. WE'RE JUST NOT DOING THE PROJECT. OKAY. I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE FOR US TO, TO, TO LOOK AT MAYBE THE TOP THREE, 4 OR 5 PROJECTS AND SEE WHAT WE REALLY NEED IN TERMS OF IF WE NEED HALF $1 MILLION, LET'S SEE WHAT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO PLAY WITH THE NUMBERS. WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS WE CREATE THE IMPACT, GET THE PROJECT DONE. SO MY, MY FEAR IS THAT IF A PROJECT IS REALLY LEGITIMATE AND IT'S SHORT, I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT. SO I'M, I WILL TELL YOU I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT. AND WHAT I WOULD SAY INSTEAD IS THAT RATHER THAN CREATING A CAP ON, ON THE PROJECT ITSELF IS START. AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A TRIAL YEAR FOR US. START WITH WITH A, A CITY ALLOCATED FUNDS AND LET US SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO WORK ON THAT. ON THOSE PROJECTS. WE WE MAY BE ABLE TO, TO, YOU KNOW, GET TEN PROJECTS. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT. I WOULD HATE FOR US TO JUST SAY A CAP OF 250. ANYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK TO YOU ANYWAY. SO YOU'RE STILL THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY IN SAYING THAT PROJECT MOVES FORWARD OR NOT.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO I MEAN, AS AN ENGINEER, I WOULD SAY, YEAH, THIS IS PERFECT FOR US TO, TO, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE SPECIFICS. BUT AS YOUR CITY MANAGER, I WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE. SO MR. CITY MANAGER WITH NO CAP, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT EVERY PROJECT THAT WE CONSIDER WOULD THEN HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL? YES, MA'AM. AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I'M JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION. YES, MA'AM. I WANT THE CITY COUNCIL TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. YES.

OKAY. SO COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER. NORTH. YES. AND, MR. CITY MANAGER, I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT POINT UP. AND ALSO, AS WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT HOW WE CAN BE HELPFUL TO OUR RESIDENTS AS WE MONITOR THIS PROGRAM, SINCE IT IS STARTING, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FURTHER UP THE ROAD TO HAVE CONSIDERATION FOR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO PARTICIPATE? ABSOLUTELY. AND LOOK, WE'RE NOT ELIMINATING THE GRANT OPPORTUNITY. THERE ARE SEVERAL GRANTS OUT THERE, STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS. THERE'S THE, YOU KNOW, HAZARD ELIMINATION, SAFETY GRANTS. THERE ARE SOME OTHER DRAINAGE GRANTS THAT WE CAN PURSUE, NOT ONLY FOR OUR PROJECTS, BUT FOR THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WE COULD, THAT WE COULD ADDRESS. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SUCCESSFUL. I WANT TO SET THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE WANT TO GAUGE THAT FIRST YEAR, RATHER THAN TRYING TO LOCK IN SOMETHING. I THINK THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK TO YOU NEXT YEAR AND SAY, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE LESSONS LEARNED. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO. THIS IS WHAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO DO. AND, AND MAYBE GIVE YOU QUARTERLY UPDATES ON, ON, ON, ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING. AND SO YOU'LL KNOW FIRSTHAND AND YOU MAY COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, WE'D LIKE TO ADJUST THIS PROGRAM TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND IT'S WITHIN YOUR, WITHIN YOUR MEANS TO, TO, TO DO SO. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SUCCESSFUL AND WE'RE NOT SETTING OURSELVES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT STAFF IS NOT SETTING THEMSELVES UP FOR A DIFFERENT EXPECTATION THAN WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS, IS, YOU KNOW, IS, IS LOOKING FOR US TO DO I APPRECIATE. OH, I'M SORRY. OH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE I THINK THIS WAS ALSO GIVE OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET INVOLVED IN A PROJECT OF THIS NATURE. MADAM.

I'M SORRY, MADAM MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION. I DON'T THINK DURING THIS TIME WE HAD THE QUESTION OF. OKAY, SO YOU DO THE PROJECT. IS THERE A, YOU KNOW, A WARRANTY? IS THERE A YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHAT IF YOU'RE IN A PLACE WHERE EROSION IS JUST IT KEEPS HAPPENING. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS PROJECT AGAIN FOR THAT PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, PLACE. IS THERE A, IS THERE A WARRANTY ON IT? SO GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, WOULDN'T THAT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD COORDINATE WITH THE COMPANY WHO'S DOING THE WORK. YES. YES. THAT WOULD BE A CONSTRUCTION BOND AND INSURANCE. NO WE WE DON'T ALLOW ANYONE TO WORK ON A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WITHOUT PROVIDING INSURANCE. NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT PART. BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT FROM A CITY'S PERSPECTIVE. IS THE CITY GOING TO GO BACK DOWN THAT LINE? IF A PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED, EVERYTHING IS DONE. IS THE CITY GOING TO GET, YOU KNOW, HAVE A AN NOT WARRANTY, BUT A, A MAINTENANCE? WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO BACK OUT TO THIS PROPERTY. WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN YOU ONE, YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF THING AS OPPOSED TO. AND THAT'S

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SUCH A, YOU KNOW, A GREAT OBSERVATION BECAUSE WHAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE IN THE ORDINANCE IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOME TYPE OF WAIVER FOR LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THIS, BUT THEN THE MAINTENANCE OF THIS WILL BE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO CAUTION US WATER IS IS A DIFFERENT BEAST. OKAY. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN PROTECT FOR SO MUCH AGAINST WATER AND YOU HAVE 100, YOU KNOW, 100 YEAR FLOOD. NOW IT CAN WIPE OUT A LOT OF THINGS.

SO I DON'T WANT TO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE IS STILL RISKS, INHERENT RISKS IN THERE. SO I'M NOT GOING TO SAY NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO BACK IN THERE. WE DON'T KNOW. I MEAN WE'RE GOING TO DO IT RIGHT FROM THE FIRST TIME. BUT BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ACT OF GOD, A 100 YEAR STORM, A 500 YEAR STORM CAN WIPE OUT SO MANY THINGS. SO WE MAY HAVE TO GO BACK AND, AND REDO THINGS. SO I, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY I'VE, I'VE, I'VE SEEN SO MANY, SO MANY PROJECTS GO DOWN THE DRAIN AND, AND NOT BECAUSE OF BAD WORKMANSHIP. OKAY. AND I THINK THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN PARKER, FOR THAT OBSERVATION. I THINK A PART OF WHAT MUST COME WITH. RIGHT. THIS PROGRAM IS EDUCATION ON MAINTENANCE OF THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE CAN GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE VERY FIRST STATEMENT THAT YOU STATED, WHICH THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. THE CITY REALLY HAS NO OBLIGATION TO DO THE MAINTENANCE ON A PRIVATE PROPERTY IN THAT WAY. AND SO I THINK THAT THERE HAS TO BE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE EDUCATION. AND I FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE MANDATORY IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT WHAT THAT ANNUAL MAINTENANCE LOOKS LIKE ON WHATEVER WORK IS BEING DONE TO HELP, TO HELP MAINTAIN IT FOR AS LONG AS IT CAN. BUT I ALSO DO AGREE WITH THE CITY MANAGER. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE OUTSIDE OF EVERYBODY'S CONTROL. WE HOPE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, BUT WE CAN NEVER SAY THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. I THINK IN TERMS OF ALSO KIND OF PIVOTING AND COUNCIL, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S TOLERANCE FOR THE CONTRIBUTION CAP. I'M I'M OF THE HEARING HEARING SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE BEFORE. I'M ACTUALLY OF THE OF THE MINDSET TO NOT HAVE A CAP AS WELL, ESPECIALLY FOR THE FIRST YEAR, JUST TO UNDERSTAND, NOT TO SAY THAT MAYBE DOWN THE LINE, ONCE WE KIND OF GET SOME OF THOSE LARGER UNKNOWN PROJECTS OUT OF THE WAY, IT MAY BECOME MORE REASONABLE FOR US TO HAVE A CAP MOVING FORWARD ONCE WE KIND OF GET THOSE THINGS DONE. HOWEVER, WITH GRANT FUNDING, I'M IN AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO PURSUE ALL THE GRANTS. BUT I'M ALSO OF THE MINDSET THAT YOU CAN'T COUNT WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE, RIGHT? SO I THINK IF WE NEVER RECEIVE A GRANT, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY AND WHAT THE CITY CAN DO AND WHAT THE CITY CAN'T DO, BECAUSE GRANTS ARE NOT GUARANTEED. SO TO TRY TO BANK ON GETTING A GRANT OF SOME SORT TO ME WOULD, WOULD, YOU KNOW, WOULD TO ME WOULD TAKE US DOWN A PATH THAT WOULD SET US UP MAYBE FOR SOME UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS. SO LOOKING SOLELY AT WHAT THE CITY CAN DO TODAY, IF ALL THINGS REMAIN EQUAL, I DEFINITELY FEEL LIKE FOR THE FIRST YEAR OR TWO, UNTIL WE GET MORE ESTABLISHED WITH WHAT THIS PROGRAM REALLY LOOKS LIKE, FUNDAMENTALLY THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CAP. BUT I'M GOING TO START TO MY RIGHT WITH COUNCILMEMBER NORTH. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CAP. CORRECT. THE CAP. YES. NO CAP.

THE FIRST YEAR. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. COUNCILMEMBER. EXCUSE ME, MAYOR PRO TEM. I'M IN AGREEMENT TO MADAM MAYOR. MADAM MAYOR, NO CAP THE FIRST YEAR. OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER HUGHES, NO CAP. COUNCILMAN WESLEY. YOU KNOW WE WANT TO HELP AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. BUT IF YOU COULD ONLY HELP ONE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE SAY. IF I COULD ONLY HELP ONE. BUT OF COURSE YOU WANT TO HELP MORE PEOPLE. SO, I MEAN, IF THIS IS MONEY THAT WE'VE ALLOCATED TO HELP PEOPLE THAT I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE A CAP. NO CAP. NO CAP. THANK YOU. SO WE ARE DOWN TO OUR LAST QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU ALL SHOULD BEGIN. BUT IF I MAY JUST VERY QUICK QUESTION, MY MY TAKE AWAY FROM THIS CONVERSATION IS NO CAP, BUT OBVIOUSLY WITH THE MAXIMUM ALLOCATION, WHICH IS $500,000, RIGHT. SO THAT KIND OF WILL BE THE CAP YOU WILL. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. DEFINITELY NOT TO EXCEED WHAT WE HAVE. WE DON'T WANT TO. UNDERSTOOD. ABSOLUTELY. SO THE LAST IS CITY COUNCIL CONCURRENCE ON THE BEGINNING

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DRAFTING OF THE ORDINANCE. WHAT IS THE EARLIEST DATE THAT THAT CAN START? MR. OKAY. SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING KNOCKED OUT. SO WE HAVE THE DIRECTION WE NEED. WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO. OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK. SO WITH YOUR CONCURRENCE, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND DEVELOP THE DRAFT OF THE ORDINANCE. AND THEN AFTER THAT WILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR AN UPDATE, AND WE'LL PRESENT THE DRAFT ORDINANCE. COUNCIL, ARE WE IN AGREEMENT OF STAFF TO START DRAFTING AT THE EARLIEST POSSIBLE DATE? YES, I DO HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE BEFORE WE DO THAT, WHEN DRAFTING THE ORDINANCE, ARE WE GOING TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY? AS COUNCILMEMBER PARKER POINTED OUT, FOR THOSE AREAS THAT ARE HIGH FLOOD RISK IN TERMS OF IDENTIFYING THOSE THAT WE WANT, KEEP REPEATINGLY HAVING THOSE AS REOCCURRING PROJECTS, DID I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? I THINK, AND MR. CITY ATTORNEY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I THINK IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE, WE CAN SAY WHAT THE CRITERIA CAN BE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY GOING ON THE HIGH, YOU KNOW, HIGH RISK FLOODING AREAS THAT THEY CANNOT BE TOUCHED IN. THE ORDINANCE ISN'T GOING TO GET INTO THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS. IT'S GOING TO SET UP THE CRITERIA FOR THE PROGRAM ITSELF. YEAH, NOT THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS, BUT JUST IDENTIFYING THOSE AREAS. THAT WAS IT WILL SAY, THE ORDINANCE. I MEAN, THAT THAT THE PROGRAM IS FOR THOSE, YOU KNOW, HIGH RISK FLOODS AND MAJOR SCOURING. SO THE ORDINANCE ITSELF IS GOING TO SPELL OUT THAT AND AND AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE AS WELL, NOT AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE, BUT IN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ORDINANCE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT. SO JUST REMINDING CITY COUNCIL.

THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. I'M FINE. THANK YOU. SO I DO HEAR THAT WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH, AT THE EARLIEST DATE, POSSIBLE TO BEGIN DRAFTING THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU MA'AM.

[D. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CASEY. AT THIS TIME WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE.

NEXT, WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.0415, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY REPORT ON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. EXPRESSION OF THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS OR CONDOLENCES. INFORMATION ABOUT HOLIDAY SCHEDULES, RECOGNITION OF INDIVIDUALS, REMINDERS ABOUT UPCOMING CITY COUNCIL EVENTS, INFORMATION ABOUT COMMUNITY EVENTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS INVOLVING IMMINENT THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, AS WELL AS ANY LIAISON UPDATES. THANK YOU. MISS KIRBY WILL DO ROUNDS FOR THIS AS WELL.

COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST, PLEASE INDICATE THAT BY TURNING ON YOUR LIGHT. I'M NOT SURE WHOSE LIGHT WAS ON FIRST COUNCILMEMBER, COUNCILMEMBER PARKER, COUNCILMEMBER PARKER, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE STILL HERE. WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL. AND I WANT TO SAY, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU TO THE IT DEPARTMENT FOR PUTTING THAT WEBSITE IN PLACE AND MAKING CERTAIN THAT IT IS AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY. AND AND I ALSO DID SEE THE SURVEY, AND I DO HOPE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE PUT SOMETHING OUT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY GO ONTO THE WEBSITE. BUT THE WEBSITE LOOKS GREAT, I CAN'T REMEMBER. THANK YOU. THE SURVEY IS THROUGH THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY DID AROUND THAT AS FAR AS NOTIFICATION, BUT I KNOW SHE'S GOTTEN SOME RESULTS BACK FROM IT. YEAH. OUTSTANDING. AND SO THANK YOU FOR THAT WEBSITE. AND THEN ALSO, I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT WE HAVE BULK AND BRUSH TRASH COMMUNITY MEETINGS COMING UP BOTH IN MAY AND IN JUNE. I'D LOVE FOR EVERY COMMUNITY MEMBER GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK AS MANY QUESTIONS AS POSSIBLE ABOUT THE BOOK AND BRUSH TRASH. LET'S NOT GET THAT. LOSE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. GO ON TO THE WEBSITE, CHECK OUT THOSE MEETINGS. THERE'S TWO IN MAY AND THERE'S TWO. THE FIRST ONE IS ACTUALLY THURSDAY, AND ALL OF THEM ARE VIRTUAL. SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GET YOUR QUESTIONS ASKED. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE WATER BILL TRANSITION, I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE GET THAT OUT THERE. I DID REACH OUT TO MR. LACEY OR THE THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THE ACTUAL UPDATE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO COME ON THE 18TH. THANK YOU GUYS FOR GOING AHEAD AND PUTTING THAT OUT.

THERE'S STILL SOME DELAYS TO THE THE UTILITY BILLING TRANSITION SYSTEM, BUT YOU CAN DO THINGS ONLINE. PLEASE CHECK OUT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. YOU ALSO CAN COME IN PERSON, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU'RE AN ONLINE PERSON, IF YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN UNDER AUTOPAY, I THINK IT'S STILL WORKS FOR THAT. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE TRANSITION. AND THEY WILL HAVE ANOTHER UPDATE ON MAY 22ND. AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS THIS THURSDAY. THEY BROUGHT UP BUILDING STANDARDS. BUILDING STANDARDS HAS A MEETING ON THIS THURSDAY AT 6 P.M. AND THAT GROUP WILL BE HERE IN THE

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CHAMBERS. AND SO I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HUGHES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE STUDENTS, TEACHERS, THE BAND PRINCIPALS, ANYONE WHO RECEIVED AWARDS LAST NIGHT AT DESOTO ISD SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. CONGRATULATIONS ONCE AGAIN TO OUR NEW COUNCILMAN ELECT, BRIAN WESLEY. CONGRATULATIONS TO KAREN LACY, WHO WAS REELECTED AND ALSO SUBSEQUENTLY APPOINTED AS SCHOOL BOARD PRESIDENT. AND ALSO CONGRATULATIONS TO MISS DEANDRE DOCTOR DEANDRE FLEMING, WHO CAME BACK TO SERVE AFTER A SHORT STINT AWAY AND WAS ELECTED AS VICE PRESIDENT. THE DESOTO GRADUATION IS TOMORROW AT 7:00 PM AT COLLEGE PARK CENTER AT UT ARLINGTON. ON BEHALF OF DESOTO AREA CHAMBER. THERE'S A RIBBON CUTTING COMING UP, AND THAT WILL BE ON MAY 28TH, LOCATED AT 1630 FALCON DRIVE, 11 A.M. TO 3 P.M. AND THAT IS FOR THE PARTNERSHIP IN SAFETY AND COMMUNITY WITH THE METRO PUBLIC SAFETY SECURITY COMPANY. SAVE THE DATE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ADVISORY COMMISSION IS GOING TO HAVE AN INFORMATION SESSION ON THURSDAY, JUNE 18TH, 6 P.M. THEY WANT TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION AND RESOURCES WITH YOU AND JUST HELP TO REMIND YOU THAT THEY'RE IN THEY ARE IN THE COMMUNITY TO HELP THOSE WHO ARE VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC AND FAMILY AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE. ON BEHALF OF THE TRI CITY ANIMAL SHELTER. THEY ARE ASKING THAT DUE TO CONTINUOUS RAINY CONDITIONS, ANIMAL SERVICES WANT US TO NOT TRAP OR SET TRAPS FROM NOW TILL THE END OF THE MONTH, WHICH WILL BE JUNE 1ST. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO THEM. AND LASTLY, THEY GOT THIS CUTE LITTLE PUPPY. CAN Y'ALL SEE IT FROM HERE? JUST KIDDING. BUT ANYWAY, HE'S AVAILABLE. HIS NAME IS PROFESSOR GREEN AND HE'S AT THE SHELTER. HE HAS A HEART FULL OF LOVE, A DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN. HE'S NOT IN A PROBLEM SOLVING, BUT HE'S SEARCHING FOR HIS FOREVER HOME. SO ANYBODY WANT TO CHECK THE TRI CITIES SHELTER? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM MAYOR. AND IF YOU'RE STILL AWAKE, YAY! WE'RE HAPPY. I WANT TO GIVE STAFF A THANK YOU FOR THIS PAST WEEKEND, WE CELEBRATED THE ASIAN AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDER FESTIVAL AND IT WAS QUITE, QUITE A TIME IN THE CITY. AND IT'S EVEN IT'S IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO LEARN ABOUT OTHER CULTURES. SO I WAS EXCITED TO EXPERIENCE THAT THIS WEEKEND. THANK YOU TO STAFF AND THEIR PARTICIPATION THIS UPCOMING SATURDAY. AS WE KNOW, WE'RE GOING INTO A HOLIDAY WEEKEND AND MEMORIAL DAY IS DIFFERENT THAN VETERANS DAY.

MEMORIAL DAY IS WHERE WE GIVE RESPECT AND HOMAGE TO THOSE WHO PAID THE ULTIMATE PRICE, WHICH IS SACRIFICING THEIR LIFE. RIGHT. AND SO THE VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMISSION HAS YOU TAKEN CARE OF. THIS SATURDAY, WE WILL HOST A FIVE K AND WE'VE CHANGED THE LOCATION. SO IN GREAT SPIRIT AND RALLYING BEHIND OUR NEW ARC, WE WILL BE AT THE ARC ON SATURDAY STARTING AT 8 A.M. KNOW THAT MUST BE FOR US THAT HAVE TO BE THERE EARLY. EVERYONE ELSE 9 A.M. FOR CHECK IN AND REGISTRATION AND YOU CAN WALK OR RUN AND PETS ARE ALLOWED. YOU CAN ALSO PARTICIPATE IN A $20 DONATION THAT WILL GIVE YOU A A COMMEMORATIVE SHIRT THAT YOU CAN KEEP AND HOLD NEAR AND DEAR TO YOU, BUT THE $20 DONATION WILL GO TO THE WREATHS ACROSS AMERICA DAY IN DECEMBER. VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN WANTING TO EXPAND THEIR REACH INTO THE WREATHS ACROSS AMERICA AND ALSO KNOW THAT THE JROTC HERE LOCALLY ALSO PARTICIPATES IN THAT AS WELL. AND THEN MONDAY, WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOME MORE AWESOMENESS, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR ANNUAL MEMORIAL DAY SERVICE PROGRAM, WHICH IS HELD AT THE NANCE FARM, WHICH IS AT 1325 GREENBROOK DRIVE. THAT STARTS AT 9 A.M. AS WELL. AND LAST YEAR WE EXPERIENCED SOME WEATHER, SOME WEATHER CONCERNS THAT PREVENTED US FROM HOSTING. SO WE HAVE PREPARED FOR THAT. AS GREAT PAST SERVICEMEN AND SERVICEWOMEN. AND WE. IF WEATHER IS NOT PERMITTING IN THE EVENT WE WILL HOST THAT CEREMONY HERE IN THE TOWN CENTER AT THE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. SO PLEASE LOOK OUT FOR OUR NOTIFICATION ON THE CITY'S FACEBOOK. IF THAT DOES CHANGE. ALSO, MAYOR PRO TEM, YOUR TIME HAS EXCEEDED. DID YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR LAST ANNOUNCEMENT? YEAH I DIDN'T OH,

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WE GOT TIME. WE HAVE TIME, MAN. GOTTA TALK FAST. DESOTO WORKS JOB FAIR IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 28TH FROM 10 A.M. TO 2 P.M. AND THAT'S AT DISCIPLES CENTRAL COMMUNITY CHURCH. SEE YOU THERE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? OKAY, I SEE NO LIGHTS. SO I DO HAVE TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT I WANT TO SHARE. THE DEADLINE HAS BEEN EXTENDED FOR RESIDENTS TO APPLY FOR THE NEW DESOTO COMMISSION FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, AND THAT DEADLINE HAS BEEN EXTENDED TO JUNE 7TH. THIS ADVISORY BOARD WILL HELP SHAPE A MORE INCLUSIVE AND ACCESSIBLE DESOTO, PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY LEADERSHIP AND ELEVATING THE VOICES OF RESIDENTS WITH LIVED EXPERIENCES AND THOSE WHO ADVOCATE ALONGSIDE OF THEM.

AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR RESIDENTS. FOR DESOTO RESIDENTS, WE'RE LOOKING FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES OR LIVED EXPERIENCE CAREGIVERS AND FAMILY MEMBERS OF INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES, PROFESSIONALS IN THE HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, ACCESSIBILITY AND BUSINESS OR RELATED FIELDS. SO AGAIN, IF YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY, INCLUSION, AND IMPROVING QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPLY. YOU CAN GO TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE AT DESOTO, TEXAS.GOV/DESOTO DISABILITIES COMMISSION. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN APPLYING. MY SECOND ANNOUNCEMENT IS FROM DALLAS COLLEGE AND THAT IS THE BRIDGES TO HIGHER EDUCATION DALLAS COLLEGE COMMUNITY DAY THAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING ON SATURDAY, MAY 30TH FROM 10 A.M. TO 2 P.M. AND IT BEGINS AT 9:30 A.M. WITH GRAB AND GO BREAKFAST. BREAKFAST BEGINS AT THAT TIME, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING AT THE DALLAS COLLEGE WORKFORCE CENTER WORKFORCE CENTER AT RED BIRD, WHICH IS AT 3662 WEST CAMP WISDOM ROAD IN SWEET 2065. THAT'S DALLAS, TEXAS, SEVEN FIVE, TWO, THREE, SEVEN. AND AGAIN, THIS EVENT IS FEATURING INFORMATION SESSIONS AND HANDS ON WORKSHOPS ABOUT STARTING IN DALLAS COLLEGE, SO YOU'RE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH INSTRUCTORS, EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES, AND GET GUIDANCE ON HELP TO PLAN YOUR PATH TO COLLEGE AND BEYOND. AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A GRAB AND GO BREAKFAST OPPORTUNITY. AND LUNCH IS GOING TO BE BASIC NEEDS AND COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS, FINANCIAL AID WORKSHOPS, REGISTRATION, ADMISSIONS WORKSHOPS, STUDENT CLUBS AND ORGANIZATIONS, AND INTERACTIVE CAREER SESSIONS. AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME FLIERS ON THE TABLE AS WELL, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED WITH THE QR CODE, OR YOU CAN GO TO DALLAS COLLEGE'S WEBSITE TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON THE EVENT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,

[1. Consider an Ordinance ordering and providing notice of a Special Run-Off Election for the City of DeSoto, Texas, to be held on June 13, 2026, for the purpose of electing a City Councilmember for Place 2; providing for Early Voting by personal appearance; providing for the establishment of a polling place; providing contracts for Election Services; and resolving other matters incident and related to such election; providing for conflicting provisions; providing a severability clause; and, an effective date AN ORDINANCE ORDERING AND PROVIDING NOTICE OF A RUNOFF ELECTION FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO, TEXAS, TO BE HELD ON THE 13TH DAY OF JUNE, 2026, FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING A CITY COUNCILMEMBER FOR PLACE 2; PROVIDING FOR EARLY VOTING BY PERSONAL APPEARANCE; PROVIDING FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A POLLING PLACE; PROVIDING FOR CONTRACTS FOR ELECTION SERVICES; AND RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS INCIDENT AND RELATED TO SUCH ELECTION; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTING PROVISIONS; PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.]

COUNCIL, FOR YOUR ANNOUNCEMENTS. AT THIS TIME. I'M GOING TO ASK OUR CITY SECRETARY FOR THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, PLEASE. NEXT, WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. ELECTION MATTERS.

CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE ORDERING AND PROVIDING NOTICE OF SPECIAL RUNOFF ELECTION FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO, TEXAS TO BE HELD ON JUNE 13TH, 2026, FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FOR PLACE TWO, PROVIDING FOR EARLY VOTING BY PERSONAL APPEARANCE, PROVIDING FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A POLLING PLACE, PROVIDING CONTRACTS FOR ELECTION SERVICES AND RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS. INCIDENT AND RELATED TO SUCH ELECTION. PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTING PROVISIONS. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

AN ORDINANCE ORDERING AND PROVIDING NOTICE OF A RUNOFF ELECTION FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO, TEXAS, TO BE HELD ON THE 13TH DAY OF JUNE 2026 FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FOR PLACE TWO, PROVIDING FOR EARLY VOTING BY PERSONAL APPEARANCE, PROVIDING FOR THE BEST FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A POLLING PLACE, PROVIDING FOR CONTRACTS FOR ELECTION SERVICES AND RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS. INCIDENT AND RELATED TO SUCH ELECTION. PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTING PROVISIONS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MADAM CITY SECRETARY. AT THIS TIME I WILL CALL FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY. WE HAVE A READ THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE NOT BECAUSE ELECTION MATTERS IS IS BEFORE THE CONSENT AGENDA. YES. THAT'S A VOTE. THANK YOU. THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. MAYOR PRO TEM MADE THAT MOTION. IT WAS SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUGHES TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS PRESENTED. DO WE NEED TO DO A HAND OR HAND MOTION OR CAN WE COLLECT WE NEED TO DO A HAND VOTE. THAT'S FINE. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL START WITH MAYOR.

EXCUSE ME, COUNCIL MEMBER HUGHES. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. MADAM CITY

[F. CONSENT AGENDA Items are listed on the Consent Agenda by the City Manager and are recommended to the City Council for single vote approval. An item( s) may be removed from the Consent Agenda for separate vote at the request of a Councilmember, the Mayor, or the City Manager. ]

SECRETARY, WE HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. NEXT, WE MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEMS ARE LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BY THE CITY MANAGER AND ARE RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR SINGLE VOTE APPROVAL. AN ITEM MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR A SEPARATE VOTE AT THE REQUEST OF A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE MAYOR OR THE CITY MANAGER.

FIRST, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING MAY 5TH, 2026

[G. Consent - Other Items]

SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING MAY 11TH, 2026 AS WELL AS OTHER ITEMS. RECOGNITION OF

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PROCLAMATION HONORING ASIAN AMERICAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDER HERITAGE MONTH. RECOGNITION OF A PROCLAMATION HONORING LUPUS AWARENESS MONTH. RECOGNITION OF A PROCLAMATION HONORING MEMORIAL DAY. CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH PARADE ON MAIN FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, CDBG PROGRAM ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO DISBURSE A TOTAL OF $9,602.56 IN AVAILABLE FUNDS TO FIVE ELIGIBLE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS, HOA'S AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 NEIGHBORHOOD MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING LINE AND GO GUARD BLAIR AND SAMPSON LLP TO COLLECT DELINQUENT P I'D ASSESSMENTS FOR THE HOMESTEAD AT DAMU FARMS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE DOCUMENTS. THANK YOU, MADAM CITY SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS FOR QUESTION OR TO BE PULLED BEFORE WE CALL FOR A VOTE? HEARING NONE AT THIS TIME. I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. EXCUSE ME.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'M SORRY, MADAM MAYOR. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE AS PRESENTED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER NORRIS. THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUGHES COUNCIL. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN THAT MOTION

[J. CITIZEN APPEARANCES]

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, MISS CITY. MADAM CITY SECRETARY WILL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE. NEXT, WE HAVE CITIZEN APPEARANCES. THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC NOT ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING. CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK SHOULD COMPLETE A CITIZEN COMMENT CARD AND PRESENT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY, OR RETURN TO THE AMBASSADOR'S TABLE PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE CITY COUNCIL CANNOT TAKE ACTION ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. HOWEVER, YOUR CONCERNS MAY BE ADDRESSED BY CITY STAFF PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA OR RESPONDED TO BY SOME OTHER COURSE. FOR ATTENDEES WANTING TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM LISTED ON THE AGENDA, THE COMMENT CARDS RELATED TO THE SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS ARE TO BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY SECRETARY PRIOR TO THE INTRODUCTION OF THAT AGENDA ITEM. THE STANDARD TIME LIMIT IS THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND MAY BE MODIFIED AT THE MAYOR'S DISCRETION TO MAINTAIN AN EFFICIENT FLOW OF THE MEETING. PLEASE NOTE COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL AND NOT TO INDIVIDUAL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OR STAFF. CITIZENS SHALL REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BECOMING BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL. IF SUCH CONDUCT OCCURS AND IS NOT CORRECTED IMMEDIATELY, THE CITIZEN MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR THE REMAINING SESSION OF THE MEETING, AND THE CITIZEN SHALL BE BARRED FROM APPEARING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THAT SESSION. CITIZENS SHALL OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MADAM CITY SECRETARY. WE HAVE THE FIRST CARD. CLIFF BOYD. HE'S NOT HERE. MARY BONAPARTE.

GOOD EVENING, MISS BONAPARTE. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE.

FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. MARY BONAPARTE. I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO SAY GOOD EVENING OR GOOD NIGHT. OKAY. TODAY I WANT TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE DIRECTOR AHMAD ALKOXY AND HIS TEAM NOT ONLY FOR ADDRESSING REPORTED CONCERNS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, BUT FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO IDENTIFY AND RESOLVE ADDITIONAL ISSUES THAT THEY ENCOUNTERED FIRST HAND. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, THAT LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY AND AWARENESS AND COMMITMENT DESERVES RECOGNITION AND APPRECIATION. SIR. NOW TO THE COUNCIL. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A VACANT CAR WASH ADJACENT TO A FIELD OFF OF THE MEADOWS PARKWAY THAT APPEARS TO BE OPERATING AS AN UNOFFICIAL MOTEL, WITH VEHICLES CONSTANTLY COMING AND GOING. WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET THIS VACANT CAR WASH REMOVED? RATHER THAN ALLOWING PROPERTIES LIKE THIS TO CONTINUE TO BE A NUISANCE, WHY NOT CONSIDER PUTTING TOGETHER FUNDS FOR AN INITIATIVE SUCH AS Y'ALL DID FOR THE BRIDGE INITIATIVE TO IMPROVE AND

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BEAUTIFY THIS SMALL PIECE OF LAND AND EYESORE? LOCATED ADJACENT TO APARTMENTS, A MIDDLE SCHOOL, A CLOSED BUILDING, AND A PRESCHOOL NURSERY, PERHAPS CONSIDER TRANSFORMING SPACES LIKE THIS INTO SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR FAMILIES AND RESIDENTS, SUCH AS A DOG PARK, WALKING TRAIL, OR A SMALL SOCCER FIELD. YOU KNOW THIS CITY IS 21.7MI■S, WITH ALMOST 58,000 RESIDENTS. WE DON'T HAVE NOT ONE SINGLE DOG PARK. WE LOVE OUR DOGS TO THE TAXPAYERS DESERVE MORE COMMUNITY CENTERED DEVELOPMENT. INSTEAD OF AN ABUNDANCE OF SMOKE SHOPS AND BEER STORES. AS YOU PREPARE THE BUDGET FOR THE 2627 FISCAL YEAR, CONSIDER PURCHASING THE CAR WASH JUST LIKE YOU DID THORN TREE THE GOLF CLUB AND GIVE US SOMETHING CLEAN, SAFE, AND MORE FAMILY ORIENTED THAT REFLECTS THE PRIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND SOMETHING THAT WOULD IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE WITHIN MY AREA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS BONAPARTE. BRANDON NORWOOD. MR. NORWOOD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE. FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. BRANDON NORWOOD, CITY OF DESOTO, LAST MONTH. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THOSE THAT GAVE ME A WELCOME INTO THIS CITY. BUT WHAT COMING WITH ALREADY A PERCEIVED NOTION ON OTHER RESIDENTS THAT HAVE FILLED MY BRAIN WITH LOTS OF INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN VALIDATED THROUGH PUBLIC RECORDS. AND SO I STAND HERE NOW, DISAPPOINTED AGAIN, BECAUSE STILL BEING A NEW RESIDENT HERE IN THIS CITY, I THOUGHT JUST A SIMPLE NICENESS OR DECORUM TO AN EMAIL WOULD SIMPLY BE RESPONDED AMONGST THE CITY COUNCIL. AND THERE WAS ONLY JUST A FEW TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ONE CITY MANAGER RESPONDING. NOW, WAS IT THE RESPONSE THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR? NO. BASED ON THE. THERE'S AN AGENDA, BUT IT'S OUT OF ORDER. WHY DO YOU SAY THAT? BECAUSE I HEAR THE CITY MANAGER SPEAKING AND GIVING COMMENTS FOR OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE SPEAKING APART, THAT ARE ASSIGNED AGENDA, AGENDA ITEMS. I'M LOOKING AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE LAY OF THE LAND. WHERE'S THE FINANCE PERSON TO GIVE WORDS OR GIVE COMMENTS ON FINANCIAL MATTERS AS A PART OF THOSE AGENDA ITEMS? AND YET AGAIN, A RESPONSE IS PROVIDED BY ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL. AND SO WHEN I SEE THAT, MY QUESTION IS WHERE'S THE DECORUM? WHAT ARE WE DOING? AND HOW ARE WE FACILITATING THAT PROCESS? AND SO IN THE EMAIL THAT I SENT WITH THE QUESTION THAT I ASKED ON LAST MONTH, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY I DID NOT GET A THOROUGH RESPONSE FROM THIS COUNCIL. THERE IS NONE. THERE'S A POINT THAT WAS MADE. YOU CAN'T COUNT WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE. AND SO WE HAVE A DEFICIT. WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT IT? INSTEAD OF TRYING TO LAY THE BURDEN ON THE FINANCIAL BURDEN THAT IS ON THE CITIZENS TO BAIL YOU OUT, RIGHT.

THE TERM OR STATEMENT WAS USED AS I CLOSE STEWARDSHIP THAT WE ARE GOOD STEWARDS. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GO TO CHURCH, BUT I DO. AND SO BEING A GOOD STEWARD MEANS THAT YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, WHICH HAS BEEN LACKING FOR A LONG TIME.

JUST ME WALKING IN HERE AND SAYING WHO OUR COUNCIL IS FOR THE CITY, WHICH IS ON RETAINER BECAUSE HE'S NOT AN EMPLOYEE, HE'S A CONTRACTOR. SURPRISING TO ME THAT WE CAN OVERLOOK INSTANCES THAT ARE DOCUMENTED WITHIN AGENDA ITEMS THAT I REVIEWED OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST TWO WEEKS THAT SHOW SERIOUS CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THAT OPEN UP THE CITY FOR LIABILITIES. I SEE FACIAL EXPRESSIONS MOVING, WANTING TO KNOW THE SPECIFICS ABOUT THAT.

BUT WHEN I GO BACK INTO THE RECORD AND I VIEW WE HAD A CITY ATTORNEY PRESENT, WHY WAS THIS NOT HANDLED ACCORDINGLY AND PROPERLY, IS THE QUESTION THAT I LEAVE WITH YOU TODAY. IF YOU WANT ACCOUNTABILITY AND ACTION AND FOR US TO TRUST YOU AS CITIZENS, IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO STEP UP AND DO THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU TOOK AN OATH TO DO. THAT CONCLUDES YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CARDS, MAYOR? THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL CARDS. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HUGHES, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM CHISHOLM TO ADJOURN COUNCIL. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. IT IS 9:20 P.M. COUNCIL AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT,

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EVERYONE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.