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[A. REGULAR SESSION - CALL TO ORDER]

[B. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

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WELCOME TO THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO. THIS EVENING WE HAVE ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. ALL EXCEPT MR. GRAHAM, MR. BELL, MISS EDWARDS, MR. LEROY, VICE CHAIR BROOKS AND MR. DEWBERRY.

STAFF IS PRESENT THIS EVENING. MR. CARROLL, MISS. JORDAN, MISS COLTON, AND THEN WE HAVE A SITTING AND ATTORNEY. WOULD YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME? ALL RIGHT. WELCOME. AND THANK YOU FOR

[C. CITIZEN APPEARANCES The Planning and Zoning Commission invites citizens to address the Commissioners on any topic not already scheduled for Public Hearing. Citizens wishing to speak should complete a "Citizen Comment Card" and return it to the table prior to the meeting. In accordance with the Texas Open Meetings Act, the Planning and Zoning Commission cannot take action on items not listed on the agenda. However, your concerns may be addressed by City Staff, placed on a future agenda, or responded to by some other course. Anyone desiring to speak on an item scheduled for a Public Hearing is requested to hold their comments until the Public Hearing on that item.]

BEING HERE THIS EVENING. OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS CITIZENS APPEARANCE. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSIONERS ON ANY TOPIC NOT ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING. CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK SHOULD COMPLETE A CITIZEN COMMENT CARD AND RETURN IT TO THE TABLE PRIOR TO THE MEETING. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER CANNOT TAKE ACTION ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. HOWEVER, YOUR CONCERNS MAY BE ADDRESSED BY CITY STAFF PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA OR RESPONDED TO BY SOME OTHER COURSE. ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUESTED TO HOLD THEIR COMMENTS UNTIL THE PUBLIC

[D. CONSENT AGENDA Any item may be withdrawn from the consent agenda and acted on separately. Approval of the Consent Agenda authorizes the approval of each item in accordance with Staff Recommendations.]

HEARING ON THAT ITEM. MR. CARROLL, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL BE MOVING OVER NOW TO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM D ANY ITEM WOULD BE WITHDRAWN FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND ACTED ON SEPARATELY. APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES THE APPROVAL OF EACH ITEM IN ACCORDANCE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. WE ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM THIS EVENING AND THAT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. COMMISSIONERS, HAVING RECEIVED THOSE MINUTES ELECTRONICALLY, ARE THERE ANY NECESSARY CORRECTIONS? HEARING AND SEEING THAT THERE ARE NONE, I WOULD ACCEPT A MOTION AT THIS TIME. MOVE. APPROVAL. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSES. ALL RIGHT. THAT IS UNANIMOUS. AT

[E. CITY COUNCIL UPDATES]

THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE UPDATES FROM OUR CITY COUNCIL LIAISON, MAYOR PRO TEM CHISM. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING MAYOR. REALLY GREAT TO SEE YOUR FACE. I HOPE YOU ALL ARE BLESSED TODAY. I DO HAVE A FEW UPDATES FOR YOU. SO REGARDING IN OUR MOST OUR LAST TWO MONTHS OF COUNCIL MEETINGS, I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF A AN ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION DESIGN MANUAL FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO. IT WAS EXPLAINED TO US THIS IS A VERY TECHNICAL MANUAL. HOWEVER, SINCE YOU ALL DABBLE IN PLANNING AND ZONING, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS WAS PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. AND SHOULD YOU WANT TO REVIEW THOSE DOCUMENTS, I CAN EMAIL IT OUT TO YOU. CHAIR RAVENEL, IF YOU WANT, OR IF YOU GO TO OUR AUGUST 5TH MEETING, THAT'S WHERE YOU WILL FIND THAT ITEM.

THE NEXT THING THAT I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF IS THAT WE DID PASS THE BUDGET, WHICH IS GREAT. NO TAX INCREASES FOR YOU ALL OR FOR US WHO ARE HOMEOWNERS. THERE WERE A LOT OF ITEMS THAT I WAS VERY HAPPY ABOUT TO INCLUDE THE $48 MILLION IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT IS RELATED TO OUR STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, THINGS THAT I KNOW THAT ARE GOING TO IMPACT YOUR WORLD AS WELL. I'D LIKE YOU ALSO TO KNOW THAT OCTOBER 7TH, WHICH IS OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING TO HOWEVER IT IS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. IF YOUR HOA IS NOT DOING ANYTHING, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS SPONSORING FOOD AND ENTERTAINMENT AT EAST MIDDLE

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SCHOOL. OTHER THAN THAT, WE JUST FINISHED OUR SUMMER RETREAT. IF YOU MISSED THOSE.

SO THERE ARE SOME NEW INITIATIVES THAT WILL BE COMING DOWN. I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING THAT RELATES TO PLANNING AND ZONING AS OF RIGHT NOW, BUT AS THOSE ITEMS COME, I WILL LET YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. ANSWER THEM? NONE. COMMISSIONERS. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAYOR PRO TEM, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING ON. F, WHICH IS

[F. PUBLIC HEARING]

THE PUBLIC HEARING. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF A FOOD AND BEVERAGE SALES STORE WITH GASOLINE SALES, A CONVENIENCE STORE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2115 NORTH HAMPTON ROAD, DESOTO, TEXAS. THIS SITE IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS JONAS BISCUIT. ABSTRACT 110, PAGE 775. TRACK 4.188 TRACK 4.18, ACRES 3.45 AND IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS GENERAL RETAIL. THE PROPERTY IS SITUATED ALONG A MAJOR COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AND CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 3.45 ACRES. THE APPLICANT IS CHRIS SITTLER OF SITTLER ARCHITECTURE AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS JOHN FREESE AND ASSOCIATES, INCORPORATED. THIS IS ZONING CASE NUMBER Z. DASH 1539. DASH TWO FIVE AND WE ARE READY FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. MISS JORDAN, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. MY NAME IS KAMBRIA JORDAN. I'M THE PLANNING AND ZONING MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO, TEXAS. SO THIS EVENING I BRING FORWARD FOR YOUR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GASOLINE SALES. SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING, THE APPLICANT, MR. CHRIS SITTLER, AND THE OWNER, THE PROPERTY OWNER, RATHER, JOHN FREESE AND ASSOCIATES INCORPORATED, ARE REQUESTING THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. A EXCUSE ME APPROVAL REQUEST TO MAINTAIN A OR EXCUSE ME, APPROVE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. REQUEST TO MAINTAIN AND ESTABLISH A CONVENIENCE STORE OR A FOOD AND FOOD AND BEVERAGE STORE OR FOOD AND BEVERAGE SALES STORE THAT ALSO SELLS GASOLINE AS IT SITS TODAY. THE LOCATION IS ABOUT 3.45 ACRES, AND THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ADDRESSED AS 2115 NORTHAMPTON ROAD. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL MAP TO THE FAR RIGHT OF THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN GREEN AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A RED LINE IN RIGHT ABOVE THE SUBJECT SITE.

AND PER THE LEGEND, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE AERIAL MAP, YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT RED LINE DENOTES THE STARTING AND STOPPING OF THE CITY OF DESOTO CITY LIMITS. SO AREAS TO THE NORTH WHILE THEY ARE DEVELOPED, THEY ARE NOT WITHIN THE CITY OF DESOTO. CITY LIMITS IS ACTUALLY CONSIDERED CITY OF DALLAS. SO ON SEPTEMBER 28TH OF 2025, THE PUBLIC NOTICE PUBLICATION WAS PUBLISHED IN THE DAILY COMMERCIAL RECORD. IN TOTAL, STAFF MAILED 14 LETTERS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE 200 AND 400 FOOT RADIUS. SIX OF THOSE OWNERS WERE WITHIN THE 200 FOOT RADIUS, AND THE REMAINING EIGHT WERE WITHIN THE 400 FOOT RADIUS. AS OF TODAY, SEPTEMBER 23RD OF 2025, THE PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF RECEIVED ONE LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM A SUBJECT SITE WITHIN THE 200 FOOT RADIUS. THAT SUBJECT SITE THAT'S IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST IS SYMBOLIZED BY THE GREEN CIRCLE TO THE FAR RIGHT OF THE SCREEN. ON THE NOTIFICATION MAP, WE RECEIVED ZERO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION FROM PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE 200 FOOT RADIUS, AS WELL AS ZERO LETTERS OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION FROM PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THAT 400 FOOT RADIUS. SO PROPERTIES AGAIN, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF DESOTO CITY LIMITS. THEY'RE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED WITH A PACKAGING WAREHOUSE, BUT IT'S THE CITY LIMITS. ARE CITY OF DALLAS PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND WEST ARE BOTH DEVELOPED, WITH USES PERMITTED IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, SPECIFICALLY, ARE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED WITHIN OVERLAY, WHICH IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 164, WHICH AGAIN HAS A BASE ZONING LAYER OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THEN PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ARE ALSO DEVELOPED WITH THE WAREHOUSE.

AND IT HAS A CURRENT ZONING OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE ARE ACTUALLY A LITTLE UNIQUE, BECAUSE THEY ARE CURRENTLY ZONED AS GENERAL RETAIL.

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IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH IS THE DESOTO FULL SERVICE CAR WASH, AND THEN AFTER THAT YOU HAVE ODORS AND THEN SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO HERE IS OUR PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE PLAN, THE APPLICANT IS PLANNING TO TAKE ACCESS OFF OF DANIEL ROAD AS WELL AS NORTHAMPTON ROAD. AND THIS SITE PLAN WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ONCE IT PASSES THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING. IT WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH OTHER TRADE REVIEW. SO EVERYTHING WILL HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THE CITY OF DESOTO'S LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. HERE IS THE PROPOSED ELEVATION PLAN. SO AT THE HIGHEST POINT, WHICH ARE THE THE TWO STUCCO BUILDINGS, IT'LL BE APPROXIMATELY 28FT. AND THEN THE SECOND HIGHEST TIER WHERE YOU SEE THE BRICK WALLS, THAT'S GOING TO BE 24FT. AND THEN THE LOWEST TIER IS GOING TO BE AN APPROXIMATE 20FT IN HEIGHT. THE ENTIRE LOCATION WILL BE ONE STORY, AND THAT IS PERMITTED IN THE THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT THAT IT SITS IN, WHICH IS GENERAL RETAIL. AND IT ALSO ALIGNS WITH WHAT'S PERMITTED IN THE FUTURE LAND USE, WHICH IS DESIGNATED AS DESTINATION MIXED USE. SO THIS IS OUR PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN. IN GREEN. YOU'LL SEE THE AREAS WHERE THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE IS SET TO BE. AND THEN IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER YOU'LL SEE THE PROPOSED PLANT SCHEDULE. OKAY. SO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBILITY. SO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT EXISTS CURRENTLY IN THE NEWLY ADOPTED 2024 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT SITE AS DESTINATION MIXED USE. SO DESTINATION MIXED USE TYPICALLY HOUSES RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL, SERVICE, OFFICE AND OPEN SPACE DEVELOPMENTS. AND THOSE DEVELOPMENTS WORK TOGETHER TO KIND OF CREATE A WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO POINT OR MOVE OUR ATTENTION OVER TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO THE FAR RIGHT OF THE SCREEN. AND SO AT THE VERY TOP YOU'LL SEE A BLACK STAR. I'M KIND OF CIRCLING AROUND IT WITH THIS POINTER HERE. SO THAT BLACK STAR IS SYMBOLIZES THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF OUR PROPOSED SUBJECT SITE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE PER THE LEGEND, TOWARDS THE BOTTOM YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF PURPLE. AND THE PURPLE IT SHOWS INDUSTRIAL. SO AS YOU CAN SEE OUR PER THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE AREA IS DESIGNATED AS DESTINATION MIXED USE, WHICH ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF DESTINATION MIXED USE IS WALKABILITY, BUT IT'S UNIQUELY SITUATED. IT, AS IN THE SUBJECT SITE, IS UNIQUELY SITUATED WITHIN A DISTRICT THAT IS HEAVILY ZONED AS ZONED FOR FUTURE INDUSTRIAL USES WHERE, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WALKING IS DISCOURAGED. SO WITH THAT IN MIND. OR I GUESS WITH ALL THAT INFORMATION IN MIND, YOU COULD KIND OF SEE THAT AS A CONFLICTING THING. YOU'RE WANTING TO PUT A A GAS STATION IN THE DESTINATION, MIXED USE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, EXCUSE ME, LET ME BACKTRACK. SO I GUESS IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER THIS COULD BE SEEN AS A CONFLICT. BUT PER THE PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF HERE, WE DO SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY.

THIS AS THE AS IN THE THE PROPOSED GAS STATION AS AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE THE GAS STATION, IT CAN ACT AS SORT OF A BUFFER OR A TRANSITIONAL AREA BETWEEN THE THE LESS WALKABLE AREA TO THE DESTINATION MIXED USE, WHICH IS THE WALKABLE AREA AS IT'S ENVISIONED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE CITY. SO. SO WITH ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, THIS REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND IN CONCLUSION, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ALLOW A THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF A FOOD AND BEVERAGE SALES STORE WITH GASOLINE SALES, ALSO KNOWN AS A CONVENIENCE STORE, AT THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2115 NORTHAMPTON ROAD. I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING. WOULD YOU GO BACK JUST VERY QUICKLY TO SLIDE EIGHT EIGHT? THE. THIS ONE HERE, GOING BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, I BELIEVE IT IS THE SITE. GO RIGHT THERE. YES. DID YOU SAY THE ENTRANCE IS GOING TO BE OFF OF DANIEL DALE WHERE THEY ARE SERVING AN ENTRANCE AND EXIT OFF OF HAMPTON TO. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS JORDAN? ALL RIGHT. MR. BELL, HOW ARE YOU DOING, MISS JORDAN? I'M GREAT. HOW ARE YOU, COMMISSIONER BELL?

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I'M DOING ALL RIGHT. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT YOU STATED THE CURRENT ZONING IS GENERAL RETAIL. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN THE COMP PLAN CALLS FOR DESTINATION MIXED USE. THAT'S CORRECT. CAN YOU REMIND US WHAT OUR ZONING. WHAT IS THE REASON FOR A NEED FOR A SPECIFIC USE. IS IT BECAUSE OF ITS GENERAL RETAIL AND THEY WANT TO USE GAS STATION. WHAT IS OUR ZONING SAY WHEN WHEN WHEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. SO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE STATES THAT A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED IN THE GENERAL RETAIL DISTRICT WHEN YOU'RE PROMOTING OR YOU'RE PROPOSING A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GASOLINE SALES. OKAY. SO SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GASOLINE. OKAY. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR BROOKS. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. CAN YOU GO TO THE NOTIFICATION MAP? OKAY. AND I WANTED TO CONFIRM ON THIS MAP, I GUESS I FORGOT. DO WE ACTUALLY NOTIFY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS? IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE NOTIFIED AN AREAS THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. WE NOTICED THAT. EXCUSE ME? WE NOTICE PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN CITY LIMITS. SO EVERYTHING NORTH OF DANIEL DALE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S SHOWN SHADED IN IT, WAS NOTICED OR NOT NOTICED. IT WAS NOT NOTICED BECAUSE IT WAS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF DESOTO CITY LIMITS. OKAY, WHO OWNS AND CONTROLS THE RIGHT OF WAY ON DANIEL DALE ROAD, CITY OF DALLAS OR CITY OF DESOTO? I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO HAVE OUR DIRECTOR ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I APPRECIATE IT. THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, THE RIGHT OF WAY, ACTUALLY, ON DANIEL DALE IS SPLIT BETWEEN CITY OF DALLAS AND CITY OF DESOTO. OKAY. AND I ASK, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP THAT SHOWS THE INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE? THAT ONE? YES. THE SITE PLAN PROBABLY NEEDS TO COME BACK UP.

SO IF YOU SAID, DID YOU SAY THE CITY OF DESOTO OWNS DANIEL DALE ROAD? OH, SO IT'S SPLIT IN BETWEEN CITY OF DESOTO AND CITY OF DALLAS AT THE CENTER LINE. IT'S NOT REALLY AT THE CENTER LINE. USUALLY AT DESOTO IS LINE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE SOUTH. SO. BUT NO, IT'S NOT TO THE CENTER LINE OF THE CURRENT ROAD. SO WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY WIDENING OF THAT ROADWAY.

THAT WOULD BE BOTH CITY OF DALLAS AND CITY OF DESOTO. IN FACT, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO COG AND THE CITY OF DALLAS AND, AND DESOTO, YOU KNOW, FOR WIDENING DANIEL, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND DESOTO. OKAY. AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IS THE CITY OF DALLAS AWARE THAT THERE'S A PROPOSAL FOR THIS INGRESS EGRESS OFF DANIEL DALE ROAD, A ROADWAY THAT'S CURRENTLY ONLY ONE LANE EACH DIRECTION? SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WHAT YOU SEE ON THE PLAN IS ACTUALLY WITHIN DESOTO'S, YOU KNOW, CITY LIMITS, BECAUSE DESOTO CITY LIMITS IS FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF DANIEL DALE. AND THEN AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE TOWARD, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE CENTER, BUT MAYBE, MAYBE THE LANE, YOU KNOW, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF DANIEL DALE. AND ABOVE IT WOULD BE CITY OF DALLAS. SO BUT WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS WITHIN THE CITY OF DESOTO LIMITS. YES. I'M AWARE THAT THE SITE IS WITHIN THE CITY OF DESOTO, BUT THE ROADWAY CONTROL IS SPLIT BETWEEN BOTH CITIES. OR IS IT CONTROLLED, AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND THE WIDENING OF THAT ROADWAY? SO SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ROADWAY FROM THE NORTH SIDE, LIKE IF YOU WANT TO PUT A DRIVEWAY FROM THE NORTH SIDE, THAT WOULD BE THE CITY OF DALLAS. BUT IF YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR RIGHT AWAY FROM THIS SOUTH SIDE, THAT WOULD BE DESOTO. YEAH. THAT'S WHY I SPLIT AT THE CENTER LINE. NO, NOT EXACTLY.

THE CENTER LINE IS JUST THE CENTER LINE OF THE CURRENT ROAD. RIGHT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S SHIFTED MORE A LITTLE BIT TO THE SOUTH, LIKE, NOT EXACTLY IN THE CENTER LINE OF THE ROADWAY, BUT IT COULD BE LIKE 3 OR 4 OR FIVE FEET AWAY FROM THE CENTER LINE. I'M NOT SURE THE EXACT, YOU KNOW, FOOTAGE IS, BUT I CAN GET YOU THAT NUMBER. OKAY. AND I HAVE A THIS MAY BE A QUESTION THAT YOU CAN ANSWER TONIGHT OR NOT. IN THE APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET. WAS DANIEL DALE ROAD APPROVED FOR? WIDENING? SO IN THIS BUDGET YEAR. SO FOR THE CIP PROJECTS. YES. NO. DANIEL

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DALE IS NOT PART OF THE CIP PROJECTS FOR THIS BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, PART PART OF THE BUDGET HAS BEEN ALREADY COMPLETED FOR THE PREVIOUS YEARS. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND. RIGHT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GENERAL FUND AND THEN THERE'S THE CIP. SIP DOES NOT INCLUDE DANIEL DILL. I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE THE ISSUE. IS THERE FUNDING SET ASIDE CIP, LEVERAGE FUNDING WITH THE COUNTY OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THIS ROADWAY TO BE WIDENED IN THE NEAR FUTURE, LIKE WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS? WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DANIEL, THERE ARE MAINLY TWO PORTIONS. THE ONE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW WITH THE DESIGN, IT'S IT'S, YOU KNOW, 90% COMPLETE IS ACTUALLY IS NOT FROM I THINK IT'S LIKE FROM 99, 900FT OR 50FT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TO THE WEST SIDE OF WESTMORLAND, ALL THE WAY TO THE CITY LIMIT ON THE WEST SIDE. AND THEN WE'RE THINKING OF ABOUT A FUTURE PROJECT THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY FROM FROM THAT PIECE WEST OF WESTMORLAND, ALL THE WAY TO THE EAST SIDE TO 35. OKAY. SO THE CITY CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE A PROJECT THAT WOULD WIDEN ALL DANIEL DALE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY BIG PROJECT. BUT THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE I WANT TO SAY, FOUR 50FT WEST WEST OF WESTMORLAND AND ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT, TO THE CITY LIMIT.

AND THE DESIGN IS 90% COMPLETE. IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH DALLAS COUNTY, AND THE OPC IS 22 MILLION. COULD THE SOUP RESTRICT ACCESS ON THE DANIEL DALE SIDE UNTIL THAT ROADWAY IS IMPROVED AND WIDENED? SO AGAIN, THIS THIS PORTION IS NOT WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE CURRENT PROJECT THAT WE HAVE FOR DANIEL DALE. ANY PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL WE'LL DISCOVER THAT IN THE FUTURE. BUT OUR CURRENT PROJECT, IT DOESN'T GO IT DOESN'T COVER THAT LIMIT. IT GOES FROM WESTMORLAND TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY. OKAY.

NOT ASKING ABOUT THE DANIEL DALE ROAD PROJECT, ASKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT THE COMMISSION THAT'S BEFORE THE COMMISSION CAN THE PROPOSED ISSUE THAT WE'RE ACTING ON TONIGHT RESTRICT ACCESS ON THE DANIEL SIDE OF THIS SITE AND LIMIT IT TO HAMPTON ROAD, AT LEAST UNTIL THAT ROADWAY IS IMPROVED AND WIDENED TO A TWO LANE TO WIDENED? NO. WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AND WIDEN DANIEL DALE, ALONG WITH THE OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG DANIEL DALE.

SO THIS IS NOT GOING TO CAUSE US A ISSUE IN THE FUTURE. THAT THAT'S YOUR QUESTION. NO, THAT'S NOT I THINK THE QUESTION IS CAN THE SNP LIMIT ACCESS? CAN THIS SITE BE APPROVED WITHOUT ALLOWING ACCESS ONTO DANIEL DALE SIDE? SO YOU'RE SAYING TO TAKE THE ACCESS OUT FROM DANIEL DALE? THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, SINCE THE ROADWAY IS JUST A TWO LANE UNDIVIDED ONE EACH DIRECTION ROADWAY. SO AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THAT. THE ONLY THING IS YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE MORE THAN TWO ACCESSES ON ON HAMPTON ROAD. AND THAT WOULD CREATE AN ISSUE FOR FIRE FIRE LANES AND, YOU KNOW, FOR MOBILITY AS WELL. OKAY. AND YOU KNOW, YOU SEE ONE FOR THE TRUCKS AND ONE FOR CARS. SO AND WE ALREADY HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS ON HAMPTON PRETTY CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION. SO REALLY THERE'S NO ROOM TO FIT ANOTHER TWO ACCESSES ON HAMPTON ROAD OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. MISS JORDAN GO AHEAD. NO. NO QUESTIONS. YOU GOT ANOTHER QUESTION? YES. I WANT TO STAY RIGHT THERE FOR JUST JUST A SECOND. MR. LAURA, DOES YOUR QUESTION HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT'S OFF OF WHAT WAS JUST. OKAY, I'M GOING TO LET YOU ASK THE QUESTION AND MR. BELL, AND THEN IF YOU ALL DON'T HIT WHAT I WANT TO ASK, THEN I'LL COME BACK. GO AHEAD, MR. LAURA. SO I BELIEVE IT WAS JUST MENTIONED THAT THE WILL BE ALLOWED ACCESS FOR TRUCKS. SO IS THIS SOP. DOES THAT COVER 18 WHEELERS AS WELL? IS THIS A GAS STATION FOR 18 WHEELERS AS WELL AS VEHICLES? YES THAT'S CORRECT OKAY. MR. MY QUESTION, MR. BELL, BEFORE YOU ASK A QUESTION, I'M GOING TO GO TO THE ATTORNEY. WHILE I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE IMPACT, IT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING. VICE CHAIR IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT THAT WILL BE CREATED AS A RESULT OF THIS LARGE CONVENIENCE STORE YOU'RE GOING

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TO GET. THEY WANT TRAFFIC. SO I THINK HER CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC PATTERN OR THE BACKUP OF TRAFFIC. BUT WHAT I WANT TO KNOW FROM YOU IS WE HAVE AN SUP BEFORE US. ARE WE ONLY TO DEAL WITH THE SUP OR OR DO WE HAVE THE LENIENCY TO DO IF THAT, IF THE OTHER MOTION COMES BEFORE US TO APPROVE OR DENY WHATEVER WITHOUT THE ACCESS ON HAMPTON, DO WE HAVE? IS THAT ALLOWED? SO YOU'RE GETTING A RECOMMENDATION FROM YOUR STAFF, BUT YOU HAVE GUIDANCE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REGULATIONS, SPECIFICALLY IN SECTION 35.2.

SO THAT'S WHAT SHE WENT THROUGH IN HER PRESENTATION. SO YOU CAN USE THAT GUIDANCE. I CAN GO THROUGH THAT WITH YOU IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT IT'S PRETTY SPECIFIC ON WHAT YOU CAN USE TO MAKE YOUR DECISION REGARDING THE SUP. OKAY. SO THE COMMISSIONERS, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN HEARING IT OR YOU? I'M NOT OPPOSED. THE QUESTION IS TWO PART THOUGH. SO THE FIRST PART I CAN GO THROUGH WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE. THE SECOND PART TO YOUR QUESTION IS IF YOU'RE WANTING TO CHANGE WHAT'S IN THE SUP, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK IN AND ADJUST WHAT'S IN THE THE ORDINANCE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE SECOND PART OKAY. BUT THE REGULATION STATES THAT TO CONSIDER YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE USE IS HARMONIOUS AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING EXISTING USES OR PROPOSED USES. THE ACTIVITIES REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT ARE NORMALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE PERMITTED USES IN THE BASE DISTRICT. THE NATURE OF THE USE IS REASONABLE IN ANY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA HAS BEEN MITIGATED. THAT ANY ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS SPECIFIED ENSURE THAT THE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT PROPOSES ARE BEING UPHELD. OKAY, SO ON THE NEGATIVE IMPACT WOULD. VICE CHAIRS QUESTION ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT? COULD THAT BE CONSIDERED A NEGATIVE IMPACT? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER AS A COMMISSION. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT IN WITHOUT MORE INFORMATION, THE TRAFFIC STUDY OR SOME OTHER INFORMATION. I MEAN, OKAY, NOW THE SECOND PART, DID YOU WANT TO SHARE THE SECOND PART TO THIS? YES. SO I DID STATE THAT. SO THERE'S ALREADY BEEN AN ORDINANCE DRAFTED. SO IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PLACED IN THE ORDINANCE OKAY. GOT IT. MY QUESTION IS FOR VICE CHAIR BROOKS, COULD YOU EXPRESS YOUR CONCERN WITH THAT OUTLET ON DANIEL DALE AND AND SPECIFICALLY WHY YOU THINK CLOSING IT WOULD WHAT DIFFERENCE CLOSING IT WOULD MAKE? I THINK IN REFERENCE TO WHO WOULD BE USING THAT, WHO WOULD BE ALLOWED TO USE THAT ACCESS, SPECIFICALLY LARGER VEHICLES. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO MAKE THAT TURN INTO THE GAS STATION WITH ONLY ONE LANE EACH DIRECTION. IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH ROOM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. IS THAT SPECIFIC? ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE 18 WHEELER IMPACT OF THE TURNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? SPECIFICALLY THAT? YES, CHAIRMAN. YES. IF YOU ENLARGE THE THE DRAWING, THE PASSENGER CAR WIDTH IS 30 FOOT AND THE INTENDED ENTRANCE AND EXIT OFF OF DANIEL DALE FOR THE 18 WHEELER OR BOBTAIL TRUCK TRAFFIC IS 40 FOOT, SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY ISSUE OF GETTING IN AND OUT. PLUS WE GOT A CORNER LOT. I THINK IF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT, I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE AN EGRESS AND EGRESS ON BOTH SIDES, SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN CUT OFF THE ENTRANCE ENTRANCES AND EXITS ON DANIEL DALE. ANY OTHER CHAIRMAN? YES, MR. CHAIR, JUST ONE QUESTION. GOOD EVENING, MISS JORDAN. COMMISSIONER EDWARDS OF THE THE NOTICES THAT YOU SENT OUT, DID YOU GET ANY EMAILS OR TELEPHONE CALLS IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION TO TO NO EMAILS, NO TELEPHONES? I MEAN, NO, NO PHONE CALLS. THE ONLY THING THAT I DID RECEIVE WAS THE ONE LETTER OF SUPPORT. AND THAT WAS FROM THE THE RESIDENT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD, VICE CHAIR, BACK TO THE NOTIFICATION SLIDE IF YOU WILL. I'M AWARE THAT THERE ARE TWO

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CHARTER SCHOOLS ALONG HAMPTON, AND I KNOW THEY'RE MORE THAN A HALF MILE EACH DIRECTION. BOTH OF THE UPLIFTS. IS THERE ANY ARE THERE ANY OTHER EDUCATIONAL SCHOOLS CLOSER TO THIS PARTICULAR SITE, CLOSER THINKING ABOUT THE USES COMPATIBLE WITH THE USES IN THE AREA? AS THE ATTORNEY MENTIONED, I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK. I CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT AND GET THAT ANSWERED BACK TO YOU. BUT AS FAR AS I SEE, I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S NO SCHOOLS OR EDUCATIONAL. I GUESS SERVICING USES WITHIN THE 200 TO 400 FOOT RADIUS. ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT, I WOULD NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK BEFORE I MISSPEAK. I'M SPECIFICALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S INSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA OR INSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION. NO, THERE IS NO THERE'S NO SCHOOLS WITHIN THE. THANK YOU. SORRY I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION. I ASK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THE CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE LOCATED. THEY'RE INCONSPICUOUS BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF. SO THANKS FOR CONFIRMING. NO PROBLEM.

WOULD YOU PULL UP ONE OF THE SLIDE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? GO BACK TO THE THE ZONING SLIDE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S VERY RELEVANT TO THE CASE. KEEP GOING BACK AGAIN. MAYBE IT'S WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON IT. THE FUTURE USE HAD THE FUTURE USE SLIDE ON IT. THAT ONE. WHAT I WHAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER IN THIS IS THE FACT THAT THIS IS TRULY AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. AND I THINK THE USE IS GOOD BECAUSE IT IS AN INDUSTRIAL AREA, AND BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE THE 18 WHEELERS THAT THAT DO USE THAT FOR TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO ECONOMICALLY, IT'S GOING TO DRIVE IN BUSINESS TO THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT. AND RELATIVE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MIXED USE HOUSING AND EVERYTHING, THAT TO ME, IT JUST WOULDN'T FIT IN AT THAT LOCATION ANYWAY. SO AS FAR AS THIS REQUEST, I THINK IT FITS NICELY IN WITH THE FACT THAT IT IS MOSTLY INDUSTRIAL ALONG THAT ROAD. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT THEN THE TIME IS 702. AND THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS CASE IS NOW OPEN. DO WE HAVE ANY CARD. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE A PRESENTATION? THE APPLICANT DOES NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION DOES NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION. THEY ARE HERE.

ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A CARD? NO SIR. OKAY. IF THE APPLICANT WOULD JUST COME AND STATE HIS NAME I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE. STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE. FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS HERBERT YEAR. I LIVE AT 4526 WILD BRIER IN SOUTH IRVING, TEXAS. ALL RIGHT. RELATIVE TO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS THINKING WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THIS CASE, AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THOUGHTS. THIS IS BASICALLY A CORNER THAT IS A GATEWAY INTO OUR CITY, AND IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS THAT PEOPLE WILL SEE WHEN THEY'RE ENTERING INTO OUR CITY LIMIT. AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A VERY AND I WHAT I COULD SEE OF THE SITE PLAN WITH ALL OF THE THE TREES AND VERY AND VARIOUS THINGS. I THINK YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY PUT A VERY NICE, CONVENIENT STORE THAT REALLY WOULD REPRESENT MOVING INTO DESOTO. SO THAT WAS JUST ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I HAD. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER THIS IS APPROVED OR NOT, BUT I THINK IT'S BECAUSE IT IS A GATEWAY INTO OUR CITY. I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE THAT IF THIS IS APPROVED, THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT IT'S THE FIRST THING THAT PEOPLE WILL BE SEEING WHEN THEY COME INTO OUR CITY. AND AS MUCH AS YOU CAN DO RELATIVE TO THE LANDSCAPE, TO REALLY ENHANCE THE LOOK, TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT MAYBE COULD SERVE AS AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAY BE COMING INTO OUR CITY, IT WOULD BE IT WOULD REALLY BE NICE. AND AS A RESIDENT OF MY CITY, I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE TO DRIVE UP TO A VERY NICE BECAUSE IF YOU GO DOWN HAMPTON, I THINK THERE ARE OTHER CONVENIENCE STORES, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT LOOK. BUT TO HAVE ONE AT THE ENTRANCE OF OUR GATEWAY AND THAT REALLY LOOKS NICE. NICE LANDSCAPE, ETCETERA, THAT REALLY IT WOULD REALLY BE NICE FOR OUR CITY. SO I WOULD JUST HOPE YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT

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AND APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE DO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY BEING ON A ON A CORNER. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY GOT PLANS, YOU KNOW, SUBSTANTIAL LANDSCAPING AND TREES, YOU KNOW FROM THOSE ANGLES. AND WE'RE PUTTING ALL ANY, ANY TRUCK THAT COMES THROUGH. YOU NOTICE THEY ONLY COME IN ON ONE SIDE AND THEY GO OUT ON THE I THINK THE HAMPTON SIDE. AND THEY'RE IN THE BACK TO SORT OF KEEP THAT OUT OF SIGHT AS. BUT YEAH, THAT'S OUR PLAN TO HAVE SUBSTANTIAL LANDSCAPING THERE. IF, IF, IF IT WAS APPROPRIATE, THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO WE COULD PUT UP A WELCOME TO DESOTO MONUMENT, LITTLE MONUMENT ON THE CORNER. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO GET REQUESTS, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THESE CONVENIENCE STORE GAS STATIONS LOOK GOOD, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE DRIVE BY THEM. AND CERTAINLY OUR INTENT ON THIS ONE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND AS AS YOU GO DOWN THE PROCESS, DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THE VOTE, HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR CITY LEADERS AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK OUT WITH YOU. BUT I ABSOLUTELY I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOUR OPENNESS TO TO THE COMMENTS I HAVE. THAT'S VERY KIND OF YOU. AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO KNOW WE SHARE A COMMON BOND, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A AS A MUCH YOUNGER MAN. BACK IN 1994, I WAS ASKED TO BE ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING OF THE CITY OF IRVING. AND AS YOU KNOW, IT'S THE BEST PLACE TO LEARN ABOUT CITIES AND EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS. I ULTIMATELY BECAME A COUNCIL MEMBER FOR SIX YEARS AND MAYOR FOR SIX YEARS.

SO THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL HAVE IN YOUR FUTURES. SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO. AND AS I ALWAYS TOLD MY COLLEAGUES, ONE DAY WE'RE GOING TO BE AN OLD MAN LIKE I AM TODAY, LOOKING BACK AND TELLING THE GREAT STORIES OF WHAT WE DID WHEN WE WERE HERE AND WE COULD HELP PEOPLE. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT GOING. I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU AND ALL THAT.

THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD PROJECT, AND ANYTHING YOU SEE THAT YOU NEED COMMUNICATED TO THE OWNERS, YOU CAN COME THROUGH ME AS WELL AND WE'LL MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS, ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST IN OUR CITY. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THE TIME IS 706 AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE I ASK FOR A MOTION, YOU MAY DO SO. CORRECTION. YES. VICE CHAIR MR. OKC. YES, I STAND CORRECTED. I UTILIZE DANIEL DALE WEST OF OLD HICKORY MORE. I HAD NOT REALIZED THAT EAST OF OLD HICKORY TO HAMPTON HAD ALREADY BEEN IMPROVED TO A THREE LANE ROADWAY. UNLIKE THE PORTION WEST IS STILL TWO LANE. SO, COMMISSIONERS, THIS ROADWAY IS TWO LANES, ONE LANE EACH DIRECTION WITH A CENTER TURN LANE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT'S SHOWING ON THE GOOGLE MAPS. YES IT IS. YES. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

BUT YOU KNOW, JUST YEAH. AND I KIND OF LOOKED AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE, IT GOES THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON, IT GOES FROM 44 50FT WEST OF WESTMORLAND, ALL THE WAY ALONG DANIEL DALE TO THE CITY LIMIT ON THE WEST SIDE. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MR. CASEY. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME, MR. CHAIR, AS IT RELATES TO ZONING CASE Z153925, I MOVE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL RIGHT. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND THAT WE APPROVE THIS CASE AS PRESENTED. ARE YOU READY FOR THE QUESTION? THE QUESTION IS, IS ON WHETHER OR NOT WE APPROVE THIS. ALL IN FAVOR I, I ANY OPPOSES. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION THE MOTION PASSES 5 TO 1. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST OR

[G. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST Discussion will be limited to the following pursuant to Gov't Code 551.0415: (1) Expressions of thanks, congratulations, or condolence; (2) information regarding holiday schedules; (3) a recognition of an individual; (4) a reminder about an upcoming Planning & Zoning events; (5) announcements involving an imminent threat tithe public health and safety.]

UPDATES? MR. CARROLL OR MISS JORDAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES FOR US? I DID NOTICE THAT YOU HAVE UP HERE ABOUT OUR JOINT MEETING THAT'S SCHEDULED. YES. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. SO WE DO HAVE AN UPDATE ABOUT THE JOINT MEETING THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 15TH. SO LATE LAST WEEK, THERE WAS A MEETING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OFFICE AND THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, MR. MR. CAMERON, HE DID KIND OF GIVE US A LAYOUT OF WHAT HE'S WANTING TO SEE AS FAR AS THE PRESENTATIONS. SO INSTEAD OF AN ACTUAL POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, THEY'RE NOW WANTING THE PRESENTATION TO BE GIVEN MORE VERBALLY. AND SO I GUESS AS FAR AS THE RUBRIC AND EVERYTHING,

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HOW IT WILL BE STRUCTURED, THAT INFORMATION WILL BE GIVEN OVER TO US SOMETIME THIS WEEK. I'LL FOLLOW UP TOMORROW MORNING JUST SO WE CAN GET THE BALL ROLLING ON THAT. BUT THAT'S THE BIGGEST UPDATE IS THE WAY THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO SEE THE PRESENTATION. THAT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER.

VERBAL VERSUS SLIDE PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU NEED TO UPDATE US ON. SO WE'LL HAVE OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING ON OCTOBER 14TH. AND THEN THE THE JOINT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MEETING WILL BE OCTOBER 15TH. AND WE DO WELCOME YOU ALL TO COME TO OUR CIVIC SERVICE PRESENTATION THAT WILL BE OCTOBER 16TH. SO THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WILL BE GIVING A BRIEF PRESENTATIONS TO THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF DESOTO. JUST LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT WE WHAT WE'RE ABOUT, WHAT WE DO WITHIN THE CITY, AND HOW TO GET ACTIVE. SO WE WELCOME YOU ALL TO ATTEND THOSE. I KNOW IT'LL BE THREE DAYS IN A ROW, BUT WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE.

ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. WILL YOU BE GIVING THE INVITATION AT THE JOINT MEETING? NO, I WILL NOT. THE CHAIR WILL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, NO PROBLEM. WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THIS WITH THE TIME AND EVERYTHING. ABSOLUTELY. I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ALL. AND ON OCTOBER THE 16TH, THAT IS A CIVIC ACADEMY MEETING THAT THEY'LL BE HAVING FOR RESIDENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN OUR CITY. AND THEY REALLY WANT TO KNOW HOW THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WORK.

AND THIS IS WHEN THERE ARE DEVELOPMENT OF SERVICES, WILL BE MAKING PRESENTATIONS ON ALL THE DIFFERENT. AND AS SHE STATED, SHE'D LIKE FOR ANYONE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO BE PRESENT THAT EVENING AS WELL. AND THEY DO TALK ABOUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, ALL OF OUR BOARDS AND ZONING BOARDS AND ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS. SO IF YOU CAN BE HERE AND SUPPORT THAT, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. ALSO, THE LAST THING IS YOU WILL FOLLOW UP WITH MR. BELL AND I ON THE PRESENTATION. YES, ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAD A BANQUET LAST WEEK AND WE DID HAVE MOST OF OUR COMMISSIONERS THERE. AND JUST A SHOUT OUT OF THANKS TO THE CITY OF DESOTO. AND I BELIEVE AND I THINK IT'S UNDER ANDREA JARRETT AND THE CITY INTERIM SECRETARY GARRISON REYNOLDS. YES, I SAW HER MISS REYNOLDS THERE. AND THEY WERE REALLY VERY HELPFUL AND VERY HOSPITABLE. AND WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DID, BECAUSE WE COULD TELL THEY PUT A LOT OF WORK AND EFFORT. AND THEN WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL TO THE STAFF ALSO FOR YOUR RECOMMEND. YOU KNOW, HOW YOU RECOGNIZED US AND THE GIFTS THAT YOU ALL GAVE US. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU ALL. COMMISSIONER. MR. BELL, GO AHEAD. I WON THAT TV THAT THEY HAD UP THERE. YEAH I APPRECIATE Y'ALL. OH, YES. MR. GRAHAM ONE THE SELECTION NINJA. YEAH. AND WE MUST TELL YOU THAT THEY SPOKE THAT INTO EXISTENCE BECAUSE OUR TABLE HADN'T WON ANYTHING. AND THEN THEY GOT THE TWO BEST PRIZES. I JUST HAVE TO SAY, COMMISSIONER, I'M JUST SO JEALOUS. I WAS ON BUSINESS TRAVEL, SO I MISSED ALL THE FUN ACTIVITIES. YES, YOU DID WHEN WE MISSED HAVING YOU THERE. AND WE MISSED HAVING YOU THERE, MR. DEWBERRY. ALL RIGHT, IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR DISMISSAL. SO MOVED. ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, THAT WE ADJOURN

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