[1. THURSDAY, JULY 24, 2025 Call to Order at 5:00pm Invocation a. Discussion of the General Fund b. Discussion of Cooperative Efforts c. Discussion of Hotel Occupancy Fund d. Discussion of DeSoto Development Corporation (DDC) Budget & Work Plan] [00:00:02] GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. IT IS 5 P.M.. I'M MAYOR RACHEL PROCTOR, AND I WANT TO CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER THIS EVENING. IT IS JULY 24TH. I'M GOING TO ASK OUR CITY SECRETARY IF SHE WOULD GIVE US A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. YES, MA'AM. MAYOR RACHEL PROCTOR HERE, MAYOR PRO TEM KRYSTAL CHISHOLM HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY PARKER HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER KEN WATERS HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDRE BYRD, COUNCIL MEMBER DEBORAH NORTH HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER LETICIA HUGHES HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS THOMAS. WE HAVE THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE. FIRST, WE'LL HAVE AN INVOCATION. IF COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD WOULDN'T MIND PROVIDING THAT INVOCATION FOR US, PLEASE. THANK YOU. IF EVERYONE CAN PLEASE STAND. SHALL WE PRAY? GOD OUR FATHER, WE ARE SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU HAVE ALLOWED US TO SEE ANOTHER DAY. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE SUN THAT IS SHINING GOD IN OUR HEARTS THAT ARE BEATING. WE ARE MOST GRATEFUL GOD THAT YOU GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER IN THIS PLACE, TO DO YOUR BUSINESS AND TO PLAN YOUR WORK. WE ASK NOW THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US CLARITY OF THOUGHT AND OF MIND. WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS OUR MAY OUR BLESS OUR COUNSEL. BLESS THE STAFF GOD THAT HAVE WORKED SO DILIGENTLY TO BRING ABOUT A PLAN OF PROSPERITY. WE ASK THESE AND OTHER BLESSINGS IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. THANK YOU, MISS THOMAS, AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, FOR LEADING US IN THAT INVOCATION. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER, AND HE'S GOING TO GIVE US OUR INTRODUCTIONS FOR THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY STAFF. THIS HAS BEEN A VERY INTERESTING BUDGET PROCESS. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO THANK OUR INTERIM DIRECTOR, MARQUITA SUTTON. AND HER TEAM AND ASHLEY ARE THERE. YEP. CAN YOU STAND UP? IF YOU DON'T MIND? THEY'VE DONE A FABULOUS JOB WITH. YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE RETIREMENT OF OF TRACY CORMIER AND THEM GETTING INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS. YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THEY SPENT SEVERAL SLEEPLESS NIGHTS TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM FOR THAT. THIS THIS INITIAL BUDGET PRESENTATION OR BUDGET PROCESS HAS BEEN THE CULMINATION OF WORKING WITH ALL DEPARTMENTS. SINCE, SINCE FEBRUARY. WORKING ON ON SEVERAL EXPENSES AND AND ALSO REVENUE PROCESSES AND POSSIBILITIES WITH THEM. AND SO LUCIDA IS GOING TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. AND I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THIS IS THE FIRST OFFICIAL, IF YOU WILL, BUDGET MEETING. THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGE IN NUMBERS. THOSE ARE NOT SIGNIFICANT. BUT ANYTHING THAT IS OF A CHANGE FROM WHAT WE PROVIDED YOU MARKETA IS GOING TO POINT OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE CHANGES IS, BECAUSE I KNOW WE GAVE YOU THE BUDGET BOOK A LITTLE EARLIER, BUT WE'VE SAID ALSO THAT THE REVENUES KEEP FLUCTUATING AND NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON SOME OF THE NUMBERS. SO AS OF TODAY, WE WERE STILL WORKING ON SOME OTHER NUMBERS. IT'S NOT A BUDGET THAT IS THAT IS SET. WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE MOST UP TO DATE DATA INFORMATION. SO WITH THAT, LUCIDA IS GOING TO GO THROUGH AND THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THEIR PORTIONS OF THE BUDGET AND WE'RE, WE'RE READY FOR YOU KNOW, FOR ANSWERS BASICALLY. SO WITH THAT, IF I COULD TURN IT TO TO LUCIDA AND TEAM TO PRESENT TO US. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION. DO WE WANT TO DO QUESTIONS AS WE GO OR AT THE END OF EACH DEPARTMENT, OR HOW DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT? COUNSEL. WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE? THERE YOU GO. AS WE GO. COUNSEL. MAYOR PRO TEM. UP AS WE GO. COUNCILMAN COUNCIL MEMBER. NORTH AS WE GO. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMAN WATERS. THAT'S FINE. AS WE GO. AS WE GO. COUNCILMEMBER PARKER. YES, AS WE GO. OKAY, I'M AS WE GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVERYONE. SO WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT OUR PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET. SO SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES OUR MAJOR BUDGET REVENUES. [00:05:03] BY FUND, OUR HIGHLIGHTS, OUR EXPENDITURES BY FUND, AND ALSO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. SO THE PRIORITIES WE ARE LOOKING AT MAINTAINING THE EXISTING TAX RATE OF 0.684934 PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUATION. THAT'S 14 YEARS OF LOWERING OR MAINTAINING THE TAX RATE. WE WILL RECEIVE OUR FINAL TAX RATE CALCULATION OR TAXABLE VALUES FROM DALLAS COUNTY HERE IN THE NEXT DAY OR SO. SO WE'LL KNOW MORE ABOUT THE TAX RATE AS WE PROCEED THROUGH BUDGET CYCLE. WE ARE LOOKING AT FOCUSING ON ACHIEVING OUR BUSINESS PLAN PRIORITIES AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN. WE HAVE IDENTIFY SOME AREAS THAT ARE HIGH PRIORITY. FROM THE CITIZEN SURVEYS AND WE ARE IMPLEMENTING POINT OF ORDER. I'M SORRY. WE GOT WE GOT SOME SITUATION HAPPENING DOWN HERE WITH THESE COMPUTERS. AND WE CAN'T ACTUALLY HEAR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING. IF YOU DON'T MIND PAYING FOR JUST ONE MOMENT. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY? MADAM MAYOR, I OUR ONLY ISSUE IS THAT OUR MONITORS ARE NOT ON. I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF WE COULD JUST. IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH US LOOKING UP THERE. I'M FINE WITH IT. I CAN SEE IT THERE. YEAH, I THINK THEY'RE DAISY CHAIN FROM HERE DOWN. YEAH. SO AT LEAST BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE IS ON. SO IF MY COLLEAGUES ARE OKAY WITH LOOKING ON THE MONITORS, I'M FINE WITH PROCEEDING ON COUNCIL. IS THAT OKAY? COUNCIL MEMBERS WHOSE SCREENS ARE COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER. THANK YOU. ALSO IMPLEMENTING LARGE PRIORITIZED CAPITAL PROJECTS, WHICH WILL. WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU START OVER BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HEAR OR WE DIDN'T HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO OUR TOPICS FOR THIS EVENING, WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, OUR MAJOR BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS. AND EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATION IS HERE TONIGHT. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE INDIVIDUALLY BY DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY IN THE GENERAL FUND THIS EVENING. WE WERE LOOKING AT REVENUES BY MAJOR FUND, EXPENDITURES BY MAJOR FUND AND OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. I'M SORRY. POINT OF INFORMATION. SO WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING BEFORE US IS A PRESENTATION. IS THAT THE SAME AS WHAT THE ACTUAL BINDER SAYS? SO THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN THE PRESENTATION ARE THE SAME AS YOUR HANDOUT FOR THIS EVENING. YOUR PAPER HANDOUT. YEAH I KNOW, BUT I'M SAYING I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION THAT'S IN FRONT OF US. IS THAT THE SAME PRESENTATION AS WHAT WE SHOULD SEE IN THE BOOK? THE PRESENTATION THAT'S ON THE SCREEN NOW. IT'S NOT IN THE BOOK. THE PRESENTATION IS NOT IN THE BOOK. OKAY. BUT TO HER POINT, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING, MISS SUTTON. WHEN I, WHEN I WAS STUDYING THE AGENDA, I DID NOT SEE ANY PRESENTATION FOR TONIGHT HOSTED. SO PERHAPS THIS PRESENTATION COULD BE DOWNLOADED AND ADDED SO THAT RESIDENTS WHO ARE PLAYING BACK AND WATCHING CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS PRESENTATION. OF COURSE. THANK YOU. OF COURSE, I APPRECIATE YOU. OUR 2026 BUDGET PRIORITIES. WE'RE LOOKING AT MAINTAINING THE EXISTING TAX RATE OF 0.684934 PER $100 EVALUATION. WE ARE PRESENTING A BALANCED BUDGET IN THE GENERAL FUND. WE ARE FOCUSING ON ACHIEVING OUR BUSINESS PLAN PRIORITIES AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN, LOOKING AT HIGH PRIORITY ITEMS WITH CITIZEN SURVEY RESULTS AND IMPLEMENTING LARGE PRIORITIZED CAPITAL PROJECTS. WE'RE GOING TO START BY LOOKING AT PROPOSED PERSONNEL CHANGES. IN GENERAL ADMINISTRATION, THERE IS ONE POSITION ADDED TO RECLASSIFICATION AS ONE PART TIME DIGITAL MEDIA SPECIALIST, RECLASSIFICATION IN THE HEALTH INSPECTOR AND RECLASSIFICATION IN THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS COORDINATOR POSITION WITHIN ADMINISTRATION AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THREE POSITIONS ARE BEING ADDED A PART TIME FACILITY MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN AND TWO FULL TIMES, ONE TECHNICIAN AND ONE SUPERVISOR. AND WE HAVE SOME RECLASSIFICATION AS THAT ARE LISTED THERE AS WELL. FOR PARKS AND RECREATION. OF COURSE, WE KNOW WE HAVE THE ANTICIPATED OPENING OF THE ARTS CENTER, AND ALONG WITH THAT, WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDING 353 POSITIONS AND THREE RECLASSIFICATION OF [00:10:05] CURRENT POSITIONS. FIVE PART TIME SENIOR REC ATTENDANTS, 15 PART TIME RECREATION ATTENDANTS, A FULL TIME RECREATION MANAGER, A FULL TIME MAINTENANCE WORKER, ONE FULL TIME PARTS TECHNICIAN, IRRIGATION, TWO FULL TIME RECREATION COORDINATORS, TWO FULL TIME RECREATION SUPERVISORS, FOUR FULL TIME CUSTODIANS, TWO PART TIME CUSTODIANS, 20 PART TIME LIFEGUARDS. THE LAST THREE BULLETS IDENTIFY RECLASSIFICATION OF CURRENT POSITIONS, SINCE RECLASSIFYING A YOUTH IN BUSINESS SUPERVISOR GRADE 112 TO AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND OPERATIONS TO GRADE 116, RECLASSIFYING A MARKETING COORDINATOR. PARK'S GRADE 107 TO A MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS COORDINATOR. GRADE 110 RECLASSIFICATION OF A RECREATIONAL SUPERVISOR. GRADE 107 TO A RECREATION SUPERVISOR. GRADE 109. AND, IF I MAY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THOSE 53 POSITIONS ARE ONLY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING THE ARC IN-HOUSE. WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ALTERNATIVE MODEL RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT TO SEE IF THERE IS A TURNKEY OPERATION FOR ANOTHER ENTITY TO, TO FULLY RUN IT, AND WHO HAS EXPERTISE IN THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES. SO WE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO GET BACK TO YOU. OKAY COUNCIL, FEEL FREE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT ON ME TO CALL ON YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MISS, I GUESS MR. CITY MANAGER, THESE 53 POSITIONS, HOW ARE THEY BUDGETED? ARE THEY BUDGETED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE YEAR, OR DID YOU BUDGET THEM DURING THE SECOND QUARTER WHEN WE EXPECT THEM TO BE OPEN? SECOND QUARTER ONLY, ONLY UNTIL THE ARC OPENS? IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE BUDGETED FOR NINE MONTHS BECAUSE WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE AN EARLIER THAN WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT OPENING. SO WE STARTED WITH THE MONTH OF MARCH, ACTUALLY, AND MOVED THAT FORWARD. SO AND ONE LAST QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THAT, DOES THAT GIVE YOU TIME IF WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BREAK GROUND, OUR OPEN THE GRAND OPENING IN MARCH, DOES THAT GIVE YOU A RAMP UP? HAVE YOU ACCOUNTED FOR THE RAMP UP. YES. OPENING OKAY. YES WE HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION ON THAT. I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ARC AS WELL. THE FULL TIME POSITIONS, LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY EXISTING IN THE PARKS AND RECS, ARE THOSE ACCOUNTED FOR AS A PART OF THIS 53 OR IS IT 53 BRAND NEW POSITIONS? CHRIS. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. THAT WOULD BE THOSE 53 POSITIONS. 53 POSITIONS ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ARC. OKAY. AND SO I SEE THERE THERE ARE, BECAUSE I WAS COUNTING 14 FULL AND 42 PART TIME AND JUST WANTING TO UNDERSTAND, IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY ALSO, IS THERE ANY POLICE PRESENCE THAT WILL BE AT THE ARC? IS THAT CONSIDERED A PART OF THIS AS WELL? IT WASN'T A PART OF OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY. OKAY, SO THERE WON'T BE. NO. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN SO ON THE SHEET THAT WE HAVE IN THE BOOK IS IT SAYS 32 FTE. SO YOU'RE COUNTING THE 32 FULL TIME, YOU KNOW, AS, AS A PART OF THE CALCULATION BETWEEN ALL THE PART TIMES THAT TOTALS UP TO 32 FULL TIMES OR FTES. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE BOOK. WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT PIECE BECAUSE IT SAYS PLUS 32 FTE. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE 32 FTES AT THE ARC. IF WE ACTUALLY RUN IT IN, THE OTHER 21 POSITIONS WOULD BE PART TIME POSITIONS. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANTED TO ASK WAS, I KNOW THAT EVEN IF SOMEONE ELSE RUNS IT ORIGINALLY. LONG AGO, DURING THE MASTER PLAN, THERE WAS A DECISION THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A POOL ALREADY, THAT THERE ARE LIFEGUARDS THAT GO ACROSS THE COMMUNITIES. THEY'RE ALL OVER THE, YOU KNOW, THE METROPLEX. WILL THOSE LIFEGUARDS BE DEDICATED ONLY TO DESOTO OR ARE THESE PART IS THESE 20? PART TIME? IS THAT PART OF THAT PARTICULAR INITIATIVE OR ARE THEY DEDICATED TO DESOTO? WOULD THEY BE DEDICATED TO DESOTO? [00:15:04] NO. NO, THEY PROBABLY WON'T BE. MOST OF THE TIME THEY ARE. WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? SOLE PROPRIETORS. AND SO THEY MAY WORK IN DESOTO ON MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY AND THEN CEDAR HILL ON TUESDAY, THURSDAYS AND SATURDAYS. SO, YEAH, THEY'LL THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND FIND OTHER EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES BESIDES JUST OUR FACILITY. SO IT'S PART OF THE MASTER PLAN. WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL CO-OP WHERE THERE WERE LIFEGUARDS THAT GO ACROSS THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. IS THAT PART OF THAT, OR ARE THESE SEPARATE FROM THAT, THESE OR WHOEVER DECIDES I WANT TO BE A LIFEGUARD, OR IS IT PART OF AN INITIATIVE OR CO-OP? I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALLED IT WHEN WE WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE. NO, RIGHT NOW WE HAVEN'T GONE THAT FAR. IT'S NOT PART OF A CO-OP. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT DOING. AND WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH CEDAR HILL AND DUNCANVILLE AND LANCASTER AS WELL, BUT WE HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY PUT ANYTHING TOGETHER. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE HIRING LIFEGUARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN WORK. THE LIFEGUARDS WE HAVE FOR THE TIMES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE OPEN AT THE ARC, OKAY. AND IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE ONES FROM MOSELEY POOL. THAT IS CORRECT. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ARK. ALL RIGHT, I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. I NOTICE THE RECLASSIFICATION. YOUTH AND BUSINESS SUPERVISOR, GRADE 112 TO ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION OPERATIONS, GRADE 116. OKAY, SO I AM JUST CURIOUS. COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH THE REASONING BEHIND THIS UPGRADE? SPECIFICALLY, WHAT NEW RESPONSIBILITIES, OVERSIGHT, OR STRATEGIC NEEDS THIS CHANGE IS ADDRESSING? THE MAJOR ONE IS WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS FACILITY IN PARTICULAR. WE ANTICIPATE THAT OUR WORKLOAD IS GOING TO INCREASE DRAMATICALLY. AND SO BEING ABLE TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT RIGHT NOW, I THINK OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PARK MAINTENANCE AND SOME RECREATION AS WELL. SO WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTORS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PARK MAINTENANCE AND WHAT WE DO ON THE MEDIANS AND MOWING AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, AND THEN HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BUSINESS THAT GOES ON ALONG WITH THE RECREATION SIDE OF OUR OPERATIONS. SO MY QUESTION IS, ARE YOU LOOKING AT A SUPERVISOR? THAT'S GREAT. 112. OKAY. AND RECLASSIFYING THAT TO ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT JOB. SO I'M JUST ASKING WHAT'S SUPPORTING THE REASONING FOR THAT. THE THE THE BUSINESS PORTION OF IT IN PARTICULAR IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ASPECT OF IT. SO IN THAT SUPERVISORY POSITION RIGHT NOW, THAT BUSINESS MANAGEMENT AND HOW HOW WE ANTICIPATE THAT, THAT THE BUSINESS ASPECT OF IT IS GOING TO INCREASE WITH THE ADDITION OF THESE 53 POSITIONS AND THE OPERATIONS OF THE ARC. AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE WORKLOAD TREMENDOUSLY FOR THAT POSITION IN PARTICULAR. AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT INCREASING THAT WORKLOAD YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY IF WE'RE GOING TO IF WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE WORKLOAD, LIKE WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE IT. LET ME, LET ME. LET ME ANSWER THAT. A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, IF YOU WILL. THE RESPONSIBILITY IF IF WE GO, IF WE GO IN THE DIRECTION, WHETHER WE GO IN HOUSE OR WE GO IN THE DIRECTION OF, OF A CONTRACT, A TURNKEY OPERATION, WE STILL NEED INVOLVEMENT. WE STILL NEED HIGH LEVEL INVOLVEMENT TO TO THE LEVEL OF AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR TO MAKE SURE THAT DECISIONS ARE MADE ON THE AQUATIC CENTER IS IS DONE AT THE DIRECTOR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR LEVEL. AND SO THE INDIVIDUAL WILL BE VERY INVOLVED IN IN THE ARC OPERATIONS ITSELF. AND THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF A LOT OF ABILITY TO HANDLE THE DIFFERENT INTRICACIES OF, OF THE OPERATION, WHETHER THAT IS IN-HOUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE POOL, WITH THE GYM, WITH THE OUTDOORS AREA, AND ALSO WITH A CONTRACTOR WHO MAY WANT TO DO SOME CHANGER CHANGES TO THE THE ACTIVITY. YOU KNOW THERE IS THE THE TOURISM PIECE. THERE IS THE HOSPITALITY PIECE THAT THAT WE HAVE WHICH IS THE RESTAURANT, THE, THE CAFE, THE, THE, THE PATIO AREA. SO ALL OF THOSE ARE PART OF THE INTRICACIES OF SOMEONE WHO'S GOT TO BE VERY BUSINESS SAVVY, VERY INVOLVED. AND SO THAT, THAT THAT ALLOWS US THE ABILITY TO YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH THAT MATTER ON THE HIGHEST LEVEL. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE BEING PREPARED FOR THAT PIECE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROPERLY STAFFING TO MEET THAT NEED FOR THAT PARTICULAR POSITION. [00:20:03] THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ONE QUICK QUESTION. I'M SORRY FOR THE PARKS AND RICK'S IDEA THAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE MANAGING IT. AT WHAT POINT WILL THAT BE DONE BEFORE THIS BUDGET IS COMPLETED? THAT THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL. THAT WOULD BE OUR PUSH FOR IT. THAT'S WHY ACTUALLY ON THE FIRST, YOU WILL SEE THE APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSAL TO BRING IN A CO-OP AGREEMENT. AND ON THE 15TH YOU WILL SEE A PROPOSAL FOR THE TURNKEY OPERATION. SO I'M SORRY, THE 19TH OF AUGUST. YOU'LL SEE A TURNKEY OPERATION. SO THIS IS ALREADY GONE OUT FOR BID. THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE CO-OP AGREEMENT. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO FOR BID. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN I WANT TO STEP BACK. THANK YOU. SIR. OKAY. I WANT TO STEP BACK TO THE FIRST PAGE WHERE IT SAYS THE DIGITAL MEDIA SPECIALIST. I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT ALL ENTAILS. WHY IS THERE A NEED FOR ONE? WE HAVE A ENTIRE DEPARTMENT THAT IS DEDICATED TO COMMUNICATIONS. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS IN THAT GROUP. SO I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED AN EXTRA AN EXTRA PERSON DOING THAT. WHICH? THE FIRST PAGE. IT'S RIGHT HERE ON THE GENERAL ADMINISTRATION ON NUMBER ONE. WELL, BECAUSE. YEAH. GO AHEAD PLEASE, LIZ. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. YES, FOR THE DIGITAL MEDIA SPECIALIST. SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING AS A DIVISION OF COMMUNITY SERVICES AND EXTERNAL AFFAIRS. WE HAVE TWO STAFF MEMBERS FOR COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING. SO THAT INCLUDES THE THE ROLE OF THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER, COMMUNICATIONS, MARKETING AND EXTERNAL AFFAIRS, PART OF COMMUNITY SERVICES. SO THE DIGITAL MEDIA SPECIALIST WILL ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO SERVE OUR DEPARTMENTS LIKE INTERNALLY AND ALSO EXTERNALLY. WE HAVE A GROWING DEMAND FOR THINGS LIKE FLIERS, DIGITAL ASSETS, DIGITAL CONTENT. THOSE NEEDS WILL ONLY CONTINUE TO GROW, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE GROWING IN OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS. OUR SOCIAL MEDIA ENGAGEMENT HAS INCREASED DRAMATICALLY, AND THAT'S ALL GREAT. BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS CONTENT OUT MORE. SO ALSO, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US IS AS WE GET OUR BROADCAST STUDIO BACK UP AND RUNNING, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE CONTENT FOR OUR PEG CHANNEL. SO THAT'LL ALSO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THAT HIGH QUALITY CONTENT FOR THAT. SO THIS IS A PART TIME POSITION FOR THOSE PURPOSES. OKAY. I STILL I'M SORRY I STILL THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE I WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THAT DEPARTMENT AND WHY THERE WAS A NEED FOR AN EXTRA ONE. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ADDING TO THE DEPARTMENT TO DO A THING THAT IS ALREADY BEING DONE. AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION. I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE DOING THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE DONE IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT PART TIME. WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS, INCLUDING VIDEOS, INCLUDING BROCHURES, INCLUDING REACHING OUT TO TO MEDIA OUTLETS, INCLUDING WORKING ON ON OUR YOU KNOW, PRESENTATIONS, ALL OF THAT. WE DO NEED WE DO NEED HELP BECAUSE BECAUSE IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE FUTURE WE WILL NEED THAT, THAT, THAT ADDITIONAL HELP BECAUSE, I MEAN, I REALLY APPRECIATE AND I'M GRATEFUL TO LISTEN AND LATOYA FOR DOING A GREAT JOB, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO DO IN TERMS OF PROMOTIONS, OPPORTUNITIES, BRANDING IN THE CITY THAT WE CANNOT DO BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THE DAY TO DAY THINGS AND WE CAN NEVER MOVE IN THE FUTURE. SO WE'RE A GROWING CITY. WE'RE AN EXPANDING CITY. AND SO THAT THAT PART TIME IS GOING TO HELP US ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS. I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU, MR. PALMER. I'M SORRY, MAYOR. I JUST I'M GOING TO HOLD MY QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DON'T NECESSARILY OPPOSE ADDITIONS AND OR RECLASSIFICATION. I'M MORE INTERESTED IN THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF SUCH MOVEMENT. SO ONCE WE GET TO THE FINANCIAL IMPACT, IT'S WHERE I WOULD HAVE MOST OF MY. BECAUSE IF IT'S A NET ZERO EFFECT, THEN IT IS THAT. BUT SO JUST I'M SURE THAT STAFF IS READY FOR THOSE QUESTIONS LATER. THANK YOU. MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PERSONNEL CHANGES [00:25:10] IN POLICE WE HAVE THREE. RECLASSIFICATION AS RECLASSIFYING ADMIN ASSISTANT THREE GRADE 107 TO BUDGET ANALYSTS AND POLICE. GRADE 110 RECLASSIFICATION OF A CRIME AND SCENE EVIDENCE TECHNICIAN. GRADE 107 TO CRIME AND SCENE EVIDENCE SUPERVISOR. GRADE 109 RECLASSIFIED COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER GRADE 104, ONE OF THEM TO A PUBLIC SERVICE OFFICER GRADE 104. THE OTHER TWO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SUPERVISOR. GRADE 107 FIRE HAS ONE POSITION ADDITION. THIS POSITION REALLY DOESN'T HAVE A NET COST EFFECT. IT'S A SHARED COST THAT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD WITH THE OTHER ENTITIES LISTED THERE. AND THEN IN FIRE TRAINING ONE POSITION ADDITION OF A PART TIME ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT. ONE. IN INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, WE HAVE ONE RECLASSIFICATION AND RECLASSIFY. MANAGER OF IT, GRADE 115 TO ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF IT. GRADE 117. MUNICIPAL COURT ONE POSITION ADDITION OF A CITY MARSHAL. THE DDC ONE RECLASSIFICATION. RECLASSIFIED AND EDC COORDINATOR, GRADE 110 TO A MEASUREMENT ANALYST, GRADE 113. IN TC TWO POSITIONS. ADDED TWO FULL TIME EMERGENCY DISPATCHERS AND PUBLIC UTILITIES. TWO POSITIONS ADDED FOR RE CLASSES. THE FULL TIME POSITION IS A SENIOR METER TECHNICIAN AND A FULL TIME METER TECHNICIAN. IN RECLASSIFYING FOR FIELD OPERATIONS SUPERVISORS, GRADE 107 TO GRADE 109 IN THE SANITATION FUND. WE ARE ADDING A FULL TIME STREET SWEEPER ONE STREET SWEEPER AND ALSO A FULL TIME SANITATION COORDINATOR. ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE CLASSES BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD INTO LOOKING AT REVENUE? MISS SUTTON, I DO I DO HAVE A I'M SORRY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, AND IT'S PROBABLY FOR APPLIES TO ANY OF THEM. IF THERE HAS BEEN A POSITION THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED, IS THAT WOULD THAT BE NOTED SEPARATELY, OR DOES THAT GET WRAPPED UP IN THE RECLASSIFICATION REMOVAL OF A POSITION? I THINK THEY'RE IN WITH THE RECLASSIFICATION. YES. OKAY. YES THEY ARE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANTED TO ASK. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I SEE A LOT OF RECLASSIFICATION AND SAME THING. SO ARE THERE OTHER ARE THERE OTHER POSITIONS THAT WERE ASKED FOR OR, YOU KNOW, TO FILL THOSE? ARE THESE THE ORIGINAL REQUESTS? DID EVERYBODY TURN IN WHAT THEY NEEDED OR WANTED? SO IF I MAY ANSWER THAT, 98 POSITIONS WERE TURNED AND I BELIEVE BY THE DEPARTMENTS WE'VE APPROVED. WE'VE NOT APPROVED. WE ARE RECOMMENDING ABOUT 7 OR 8 POSITIONS OF ADDING 7 OR 8 POSITION AND RECLASSIFIED, RECLASSIFY A FEW POSITIONS. AND THE REASON THAT YOU SEE IN I'M SORRY, YOU SAID 98 WERE TURNED IN, 98 WERE TURNED IN, AND WE'RE ACCEPTING SEVEN, 7 OR 8. YES. OF THE 98 OF THE 98, YES. BIG DIFFERENCE. BUT I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. YES. AND THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE WHERE EVERYBODY HAS, HAS, HAS A WISH LIST AND A REAL NEED. THERE'S, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE. SO WE HAVE TO VALIDATE THAT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND ENSURING THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY FOR THOSE POSITIONS. PART OF THE RECLASSIFICATION THAT YOU SEE, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON A CLASS. AND NOT ONLY THAT'S A THAT'S A TROUBLING THING FROM AN HR STANDPOINT. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOU HAVE CHALLENGES WITH, WITH WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, FATIGUE, WORK FATIGUE AND NOT NOT FEELING THAT THEY GET COMPENSATED RIGHT FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DONE. THAT'S THE REASON WHEN WE LOOK AT RECLASSIFYING THOSE POSITIONS, WE'RE RECLASSIFYING IT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING THAT RESPONSIBILITY ALIGNED WITH THE COMPENSATION OR WITH THE TITLE THAT THEY NEED. THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. AND I JUST THINK 98 IS A LOT, AND IT MIGHT NOT BE ALL THAT ARE NEEDED, BUT SEEMED LIKE THERE WOULD BE MORE THAN 7 OR 8. AND WHAT DO YOU ALL DO AS FAR AS THE PROCESS TO DETERMINE WHO GETS WHAT, WHERE, WHY, WHEN? ALL THAT MUCH? HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT DETERMINATION? WOULD YOU? SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TALKING ABOUT WHAT ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT THEY WILL HAVE AND [00:30:01] FRANKLY, THE BUDGET. I MEAN WHERE WE HAVE A NEW LIABILITY THAT IS CALLED THE AQUATIC CENTER. THAT IS GOING TO BE ABOUT $4 MILLION IN OPERATION. AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO BALANCE THAT WITH ALL OF THE REVENUE THAT YOU HAVE IS IS NOT ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE EXPECTATIONS OR THE EXPENSES. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING THAT LAKISHA AND TEAM AND ASHLEY AND ANNIE HAD TO GO THROUGH TO YOU KNOW, TO BALANCE THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE. YOU KNOW, PART OF THE PROPOSAL IS FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, DO A DIFFERENT CALLER NUMBER INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF LAST YEAR'S NUMBER. SO THE IMPACT OF THE ARC FOR NEXT YEAR IS, IS, HAS CAUSED US TO HOLD BACK ON A LOT OF POSITIONS THAT MAY BE NICE TO HAVE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A MUST HAVE. THOSE ARE POSITIONS THAT WE'VE PROPOSED ARE THE ONES THAT ARE MUST HAVE. OKAY. AND DO WE ACCOUNT FOR ANY NEW OFFICER POSITIONS? I DON'T THINK I SAW THAT IN HERE. IS THAT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT CHAIR. THANK YOU. OKAY, MADAM MAYOR, AND JUST FOR CLARITY, JUST SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND, YOU SAID THE LIABILITY IS THE ORACLE. WE ALSO HAD SOME OTHER LIABILITIES THAT WE TOOK ON THIS YEAR THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY CHANGE THIS BUDGET AS WELL THAT AREN'T BEING TALKED ABOUT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I MAKE THAT OUT LOUD BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ARC. BUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS AS WELL. SO MY QUESTION PARKING IS BACK TO THE RECLASSIFICATION. DOES THE RECLASSIFICATION CHANGE THE BENEFITS, THE BENEFIT PACKAGE PACKAGE. IS THERE AN IMPACT TO THAT? NOT AT THEIR FULL TIME. SO IF THEY IF THEY'RE FULL TIME, THEY GET THE REGULAR, YOU KNOW, TMS BENEFIT AND EVERYTHING. SO THAT PART DOES NOT CHANGE. MAINLY IF THEY'RE GOING FROM ONE GRADE TO ANOTHER, IT CHANGES THE SALARY. OKAY. AND INSIDE OF THE ACTUAL BUDGET FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WHERE IT DOES CHANGE THE IMPACTS THE INSURANCE OR STRESS. IS THAT NOTED IN HERE? IT'S NOT IT'S IT'S IN THE NUMBERS. SO IF IF THERE IS A DEPARTMENT THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED HERE THAT HAS A NEW POSITION OR A RE CLASS FROM A LOWER GRADE TO A HIGHER GRADE, THAT IS A PART OF THE PERSONNEL INCREASE THAT YOU'LL SEE FROM FISCAL YEAR 25 TO FISCAL YEAR 26. OKAY. OKAY. AND IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO AT SOME POINT IF IN FACT, THIS GOES FORWARD, WE ABLE TO SEE THAT IMPACT FROM AN INSURANCE PERSPECTIVE, BENEFIT PACKAGE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS BECAUSE THOSE COST MONEY TOO. AND WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, I'M NOT NECESSARILY KNOWING EXACTLY WHERE THOSE IMPACTS ARE. SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT I'D LOVE TO UNDERSTAND IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. SURE. COUNCILMEMBER PARKER, YOU YOU STATED THAT THERE ARE OTHER LIABILITIES THAT THE CITY TOOK ON THAT ARE POSSIBLY CAUSING AN IMPACT. CAN YOU EDUCATE US ON WHAT THOSE ARE? WELL, I WAS JUST SAYING THAT WE JUST TOOK ON THE THORN TREE AS WELL, SO UNLESS. JUST NOT IN HERE. I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ARC CENTER. WE KNEW THE ARC CENTER WAS COMING. WE DID NOT KNOW THAT THE THORN TREE WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS LAST FISCAL PART OF THE YEAR OR LAST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR. SO THAT'S A LIABILITY AS WELL. THORN TREE HAS ZERO NET EFFECT ON THE BUDGET. OKAY. WELL, WITH ANY ADDITIONAL LIABILITIES WE TOOK ON THAT YOU WANT TO EDUCATE US ON. NO. OKAY. WELL I WANT TO MAKE SURE I SAID THAT I LOVE OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU MISTER. THANK YOU. ALSO TO ADDRESS THE BENEFIT QUESTION FOR EACH DEPARTMENT, YOU WILL SEE IN THIS IN YOUR BOOKS NOW AS WELL. AND IT'S ONLINE AS WELL. FOR EACH DEPARTMENT YOU HAVE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT BENEFITS LISTED OUT BY LINE ITEM. SO IT TELLS YOU SPECIFICALLY TMS INSURANCE. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THOSE HAVE INCREASED AS A RESULT OF THE ADDITION OF A POSITION FROM FISCAL YEAR 25 TO FISCAL YEAR 26. IS SO IN THERE. THESE ARE WORDS. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THIS ONE GIVES US A SUMMARY OF OUR REVENUES BY FUND. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THESE MORE IN DEPTH, BUT LIST OF DIFFERENT SOURCES LISTED HERE AND THESE THIS FAR. THIS IS FOR ALL ALL FUNDS. SO SPECIFICALLY THIS EVENING, WE'RE GOING TO BE DIVING INTO THE GENERAL FUND, OF COURSE. AND CORRESPONDINGLY, OUR EXPENDITURES BY OUR MAJOR FUND ARE LISTED HERE AS WELL. GENERAL FUND AND EXPENSES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2670 1.4 MILLION. ENTERPRISE FUNDS, 70.3. DEBT SERVICE 50.9. AND WE ARE STILL CRAFTING OUR BUDGET FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS. I DID INCLUDE A SLIDE IN HERE. I I BELIEVE IT'LL BE DISCUSSED TOMORROW, BUT OF THE CAPITAL PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE. WE ARE STILL WORKING OUT ALL OF THE SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNTS WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO [00:35:06] MANAGE CAPITAL ITEMS. SO YOU WILL SEE THAT UPDATE COMING REALLY SOON ON CAPITAL PROJECTS. OKAY. JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE LAST SLIDE? SO THE PART WHERE IT SAYS PROPOSED IF Y 226, THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THE NEW DOCUMENTS ARE MATCHING THOSE DOCUMENTS. YES, YES. THE NEW THE NEW DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT IS THE CORRECT. IT'S THE. YES, IT'S THE MOST UPDATED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU'RE WELCOME. I DO WANT TO MENTION AS WELL. DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, LET ME KNOW THAT THE PRESENTATION IS ON THE WEBSITE RIGHT NOW. SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO PULL THAT UP, THE PRESENTATION THAT I'M ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH IS ON THE WEBSITE. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR PROPERTY TEXT. YOU CAN SEE OUR PROPERTY TAX HISTORY ALL THE WAY BACK FROM YEAR 2018. MOVING FORWARD. WHAT OUR TOTAL PROPERTY TAX RATE HAS BEEN. THERE ARE TWO PORTIONS OF THE TAX RATE. OF COURSE, THERE IS OUR MIDDLE SECTION GENERAL FUND. AND THEN THERE'S THE DEBT SERVICE SECTION AS WELL. WE ARE IN OUR FINAL TAXABLE VALUATION FROM DALLAS COUNTY. REALLY SOON, MAYBE EVEN TONIGHT OR TOMORROW. TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A MORE ACCURATE PROJECTION OF WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE, BUT .684934 IS WHAT WE HAVE USED FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET. AND THERE'S A CHART HERE THAT SHOWS HOW OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE HISTORY HAS PROGRESSED THROUGH THE YEARS. SO WE KNOW IN OUR GENERAL FUND, OUR PROPERTY TAX IS THE THE HIGHEST REVENUE GENERATOR IN THE GENERAL FUND. CURRENT COLLECTIONS ARE AT 37.9 MILLION. HERE WE HAVE LISTED OUR LATEST CERTIFIED TAXABLE VALUE THAT WE RECEIVED FROM DALLAS COUNTY. BASED ON THAT AMOUNT, WE ARE GETTING 888,000 PER $0.01 OF ASSESSED VALUATION. THE MIDDLE PORTION IS 0.503934, GIVING US AN O OF 44,000,044.3 MILLION. NORMALLY, LIKE I SAY, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, WHEN WE RECEIVE OUR CERTIFIED VALUES, WE DON'T BASE OUR REVENUE ON EXACTLY THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE PROTESTS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. SO WE ACTUALLY BUDGET A LITTLE BIT LESS FOR OUR BUDGET NUMBERS. SO YOU SEE 8.803 BILLION AS THE VALUE. BUT WE WILL BASE THAT ON A SOLID 8.8 BILLION AND NOT THE CHANGE THAT'S LISTED HERE. SO WHENEVER THOSE FINAL NUMBERS COME IN WE WILL ALSO DO THE SAME THING. WE'LL BASE IT ON A ROUND NUMBER TO ACCOUNT FOR, YOU KNOW PROTESTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO BASED ON THIS PRELIMINARY INFORMATION, YOU'RE LOOKING TO KEEP THE THE TAX RATE AS FAR AS THIS IS CONCERNED AT THE SAME LEVEL. WE SURE HOPE SO. VERY GOOD. AND DOES WELL, OKAY, I'LL SAVE MY OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. OKAY. SALES TAX OVER THE YEARS. YOU CAN LOOK AND SEE WHERE WE'VE BEEN SINCE 2018. AND BRINGING THAT FORWARD, FISCAL YEAR 24 WAS AT 11.6. FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET WAS 11.7 MILLION. AND WE DID NOT PROPOSE AN INCREASE FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. WE'LL KEEP AN EYE ON THAT AS THE YEAR GOES ON. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE TOO AGGRESSIVE THERE. THAT IS ONE OF OUR HIGHER REVENUE SOURCES IN THE GENERAL FUND. SO WE WANT TO KEEP IT STEADY UNTIL WE KIND OF KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT THE MARKET IS DOING. ALSO, A LOOK AT OUR FRANCHISE FEE REVENUE FROM THE VARIOUS SOURCES, OUR EMERGENCY FEES, CABLE TELEVISION FRANCHISE, GAS, TELEPHONE, WATER, SEWER AND ELECTRIC. WE HAVE LISTED OUR 2024 ACTUALS, RULES ARE 2025 PROJECTED AND OUR 2026 PROPOSED. SO IN EACH CATEGORY WELL, THE FIRST TWO CATEGORIES WE'LL START THERE. WE DID ANTICIPATE A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THEIR NATURAL GAS. WE ARE PROJECTING A SLIGHT DECREASE IN OUR TELEPHONE A SLIGHT INCREASE. [00:40:08] WATER AND SEWER REMAIN STEADY AND ELECTRIC. AN INCREASE THERE. AND ALSO IT SHOWS THE CHART OF THE OF THE VARIOUS AMOUNTS. THEIR FRANCHISE FEE IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE FOURTH LARGEST REVENUE SOURCE IN OUR GENERAL FUND. SO IT'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT SOURCE FOR US. HERE IS ANOTHER LOOK AT OUR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES IN THE GENERAL FUND. SO IF YOU COMBINE ALL OF OUR REVENUE SOURCES IN THE GENERAL FUND. AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT $71.5 MILLION IN REVENUE VERSUS 71.501 IN EXPENDITURES. THESE APPROPRIATIONS ARE BROKEN OUT BY THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES LISTED HERE. SO WHEN YOU SEE PERSONNEL, THAT IS GOING TO MEAN PERSONNEL OF EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE GENERAL FUND SUPPLIES IS EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE GENERAL FUND. SO WHEN YOU SEE THE TOTAL APPROPRIATION OF 71.501 THAT IS FOR THOSE VARIOUS DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. SO 71.535 IN REVENUE, 71.501 IN EXPENSES. AND THEREIN LIES THE, THE BARE. YES. RIGHT. AND PERSONNEL. BECAUSE THAT IS A THAT'S A $5 MILLION INCREASE IN PERSONNEL. AND HOW MUCH OF THAT IS ATTRIBUTED TO THE TO THE ARC? THAT WAS 53 POSITIONS IN THE ARC. THE NUMBERS WE GOT BACK FROM OUR HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE WAS 1.8 MILLION. AND SO AS CITY MANAGER STATED WHEN HE BRINGS BACK TO DISCUSS AN ALTERNATIVE PACKAGE FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO RUN IT BESIDES CITY STAFF, WE WILL EXCHANGE OUT THAT 1.8 MILLION FOR WHATEVER COOPERATIVE AMOUNT WE CAN AGREE ON. AND IS THE TYPICAL COLUMN CALCULATED IN THESE NUMBERS? COST OF LIVING COLA. YES, A TYPICAL OF. WHAT'S THE TYPICAL THE COLA THIS YEAR FOR EMPLOYEES DID CHANGE FROM 2% TO 1%. SO THE TYPICAL IS NOT IN THE TWO. THE 2% IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET. IT IS A 1% THAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET, AND NORMALLY IT'S 2%, AND WE'RE PROPOSING A 1%. WE'RE PROPOSING 1%. AND NORMALLY JUST ON THE HIGH END. NORMALLY THERE IS A NORMAL INCREASE FOR, YOU KNOW, 3% I GUESS OVER. IS THAT IS THAT ASSUMPTION THE SAME OR HAS THAT CHANGED? THAT ASSUMPTION IS NOT IN THIS BUDGET. SO. IS IT 3%? IT'S THE I BELIEVE YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE STEP INCREASE. YES. SO YES, THE THE SALARY SURVEY THAT WAS DONE, I THINK IN 2021 OR 2022 THAT CAME TO CITY COUNCIL, THE ONE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE NOW. CITY MANAGER IS SUGGESTING THAT WE TEMPORARILY SUSPEND UNTIL WE CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THE ARC. OKAY. BECAUSE THOSE THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, THE EXPENDITURES THERE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT UPWARDS OF $4 MILLION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE 100% COST RECOVERY ON THAT, YOU KNOW. SO THOSE ARE THE THE TWO CHANGES TEMPORARY SUSPENSION OF THE THE STEP INCREASE FOR CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES AND ALSO NOT THE 2%, BUT THE 1% COLA. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT WAS THAT'S WHEN I GO THROUGH THE BUDGET. I'M LOOKING FOR A HIGH FLUCTUATION. AND THAT IS ONE THAT THAT THAT GOT ME. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND IF I MAY JUST ADD TO IT THAT I'M ALSO PROPOSING A $500 NET STIPEND FOR THAT FOR ALL EMPLOYEES. I'M ALSO PROPOSING A $500 NET STIPEND FOR ALL EMPLOYEES. IS THAT TO OFFSET THE 1% INCREASE FOR THEIR ANNUAL REVIEW? IT REALLY ISN'T AN OFFSET. I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S AN IMPACT. CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES ARE NOT GOING TO GET THE STEP INCREASE. NO, I'M PROPOSING THAT WE FORGO THAT THIS SPECIFIC YEAR AND SEE WHERE WE ARE IN THE BUDGET MIDYEAR AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH A POSSIBLY A BUDGET AMENDMENT, HOPEFULLY, AS THINGS IMPROVE. BUT THE STIPEND IS IS IS NOT A REPLACEMENT TO THAT IS JUST AN ADDED NUMBER TO TELL THE [00:45:05] EMPLOYEES WE REALLY CARE ABOUT YOU. WE JUST HAVE A TOUGH BUDGET PROCESS. OKAY. AND MY QUESTION IS ON THE SAME VEIN OF MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD. WHEN I LOOK AT THE ACTUALS FOR 24 TO 25 FOR THE PERSONNEL, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A SLIGHT, I WANT TO SAY, MAYBE 7 MILLION DIFFERENCE, RIGHT? BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM 26 TO THIS IT'S THE VIBE. SO TECHNICALLY I GUESS THE TRADITIONAL INCREASE THAT WE SEE YEAR OVER YEAR IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN GOING INTO 2026. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? AND IS THAT DUE TO THE 1% VERSUS THE TRADITIONAL 3 TO 4 FOR THE COLA? THAT THAT IS A PART OF IT? YES. YES. THERE ARE SEVERAL MOVING PIECES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED WAS THE NEW POSITIONS AND THE RE CLASSES TOO. YOU KNOW, SO YOU TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL AND ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT WHENEVER WE EVALUATED ADDING A NEW POSITION, WE ALSO EVALUATED WHETHER THERE WAS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE LINE ITEM THAT COULD BE REDUCED AS A RESULT OF ADDING THOSE POSITIONS. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HIRING SOMEBODY TO DO, THEN THAT'S MAYBE SOMETHING WE DON'T NEED TO CONTRACT OUT ANYMORE. OKAY, SO WELL, NOT NOW, BUT COULD THE COUNCIL GET AFTER THIS MEETING, WHAT THE PERSONNEL WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THERE WAS NO RECLASSIFICATION, HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT. AND WE KEPT EVERYTHING THE SAME. I'M NOT SURE THE ADDITIONS TO, LIKE, ADD FOR THE PART TIME, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT IF FOR THE PROMOTIONAL PIECE, IF THAT IS DRIVING US FURTHER TO THE RIGHT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR US? JUST FOR CONSIDERATION, I THINK NOT SAYING ANYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO SEE THE NUMBERS AND HOW THEY CHANGE. IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT KIND OF PLAYED A FACTOR IN IT. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS RELATED TO THE SERVICE AND PROFESSIONAL FEES, BECAUSE THAT'S A HUGE JUMP TOO, ESPECIALLY WHEN I LOOK FROM 24 TO 26. WE'VE INCREASED LIKE LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING ABOUT $5 MILLION. FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING IN THE INITIAL PRESENTATION THAT SEEMED LIKE A DING DING DING FOR SERVICES AND PROFESSIONAL FEES. COULD YOU DO YOU RECALL WHAT THE JUMP IN THAT RELATES TO? IS THAT THE ARC OR. I DON'T RECALL SPECIFICALLY. WE'LL PROVIDE YOU. WE'LL PROVIDE YOU A BREAKDOWN OF ALL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR AND ALSO FOR 2027. SURE THING. YOU MAY NOTICE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS AS WELL. WHENEVER IT'S TIME FOR THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS TO COME IN AND TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THEIR BUDGETS, THEY WILL HAVE HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AS WELL FOR YOU. OH THANK YOU. QUICK QUESTION. I HAD TWO QUESTIONS. MY FIRST ONE WAS SOMEBODY HAD ACTUALLY TEXTED ME AND SAID THAT THEY CAN'T SEE THE PRESENTATION. WHERE ON THE WEBSITE SHOULD THEY BE LOOKING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET TO IT FROM THE AGENDA? YES. I'M SORRY. IT'S UNDER THE FINANCIAL SERVICES BUDGET AND IN TAX INFORMATION. AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE PRESENTATION FOR JULY 24TH THROUGH THE 25TH. OKAY. YES. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WAS WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF THIS, IT'S ABOUT A 9% DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2025 AND 2026. IN THE CHANGE WHERE IT SAYS 42 AND THEN 47. SO IT'S A IT'S ABOUT A 9% CHANGE. SO MY QUESTION IS HOW MUCH OF THAT PERCENTAGE NOW YOU SAID 1.2 IS ACTUALLY THE ARC CENTER 1.81.8. I'M SORRY. SO THAT OTHER DIFFERENCE IS WHAT'S THE OTHER DIFFERENCE? WHAT ARE ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT CAUSES THAT? WHAT IS THAT? ABOUT 3.2% PERSONNEL IN PERSONNEL. SO THERE ARE THREE. YES. IN PERSONNEL. THE THE ADDITION AND RE CLASS ADDITIONS RE CLASSES, THE 1% AND THE $500 STIPEND. OKAY. AND I LIKE WHERE MY COLLEAGUE WAS GOING WHEN SHE WAS ASKING FOR LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS WITHOUT ALL OF THAT. SURE. SO YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO SEE THAT INFORMATION. TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT. OKAY. EVEN WITH THE BECAUSE YOU'LL STILL HAVE THE ARC IN THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO. YEAH. OKAY. OUTSTANDING. THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLARIFICATION THAT ONLY CIVILIAN POSITIONS ARE ARE WERE FREEZING. WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE FREEZE OF THE CIVILIAN POSITION. 3.5% INCREASE. POLICE AND FIRE ARE STILL GETTING THERE. 3.5% PER THEIR PER THEIR CONTRACT. [00:50:03] IT IS INCLUDED. SO POLICE AND FIRE, THEY WILL STILL GET THEIR STEP INCREASE BECAUSE THEY ARE SEPARATE FROM THE CIVILIAN AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE ENTITLED TO. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S AN IMPACT OF ALMOST $700,000. I BELIEVE SO. YES. THANK YOU. AND I'M SURE YOU DID THIS, BUT DID YOU ALL LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AT THE 2% BEFORE YOU SAY WE'RE GOING TO. YOU DID? ABSOLUTELY. YES. WE RAN PROBABLY ABOUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SCENARIOS OUR BUDGET OFFICER RAN. TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WOULD FIT, THAT WOULD RIGHT SIZE FOR WHAT WE NEED FOR THIS LEAN BUDGET. SO YES, WE DID. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A BUDGET AMENDMENT REGARDING THE INCREASE. I GUESS THE INCREASE WOULD BE INCLUSIVE OF ANY COLA INCREASE AND ANY MERIT INCREASES. WE TALKED ABOUT THE 1% VERSUS THE 2%. THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE 3%. THAT'S NOT INCLUDED ACROSS THE BOARD I SUPPOSE. AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LOOKING AT THE ARC AND HOW IT'S IMPACTING THE BUDGET OVERALL, WHEN WOULD WE ANTICIPATE POSSIBLY SEEING IT IF WE CAN EVEN FORECAST THAT FOR I KNOW NOBODY HAS A CRYSTAL BALL, BUT WHEN WILL WE EVEN POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO SEE THE IMPACTS, TO SEE IF THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE COULD DO FOR THE EMPLOYEES? I'M HOPING THAT WE COULD WE COULD HAVE SOME SOME LIGHT ON IT BEFORE THE 19TH OF AUGUST. BUT AROUND I WOULD SAY AROUND MAYBE THE LATTER PART OF AUGUST IS WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO SEE THAT THAT'S WHEN WE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMPARE WEATHER, WHETHER WE GO AND DO THE DO THE IN-HOUSE OPERATION VERSUS A TURNKEY OPERATION BY A CONSULTANT CONTRACTOR. OKAY. THAT SAID, ALSO, WOULD THAT BE SO IF WE DID A BUDGET AMENDMENT? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT DOING. SO WE SAID, OKAY, WE CAN DO AN INCREASE. WILL WE BE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING IN ARREARS OR LIKE WHAT WILL WE BE PAYING FORWARD AT THAT POINT? IF WE AMENDED THE BUDGET FOR THE COLA AND FOR ANY MERIT INCREASE? DOES THAT DOES MY QUESTION MAKE SENSE? IS I, I CAN RESTATE RESTATED. RESTATED. SURE. SO IF WE WERE TO DO WHAT IS WHAT MAY BE POSSIBLE, RIGHT. IF WE LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF THE ARC ON THE BUDGET, AND THEN YOU'RE SAYING AROUND AUGUST IS THE TIME WHERE WE MAY BE ABLE TO SEE ITS ACTUAL IMPACTS, AND THEN IF WE SAY, OKAY, LOOKS LIKE WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THE COLA FOR THE STAFF OR THE MERIT INCREASES FOR THE STAFF. ARE WE DOING EVERYTHING FROM THE PREVIOUS MONTHS THAT ARE IN THAT BUDGET, OR ARE WE STARTING FROM A POINT IN TIME TO SAY HOW MUCH THAT INCREASE WOULD BE FOR EACH OF THE EMPLOYEES? YOU'LL START FROM THE POINT IN TIME BECAUSE YOU'RE COMPARING ONE ITEM TO ANOTHER ITEM, AND WHATEVER THAT DELTA IS, WE'LL COME BACK. WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY IT'S ACTUALLY AN IMPROVEMENT OF X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, AND THEN IT'S YOUR DECISION. LOOK UNTIL UNTIL THE BUDGET IS ADOPTED, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO TO, TO, YOU KNOW, AMEND ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO AMEND? SURE. AND I DON'T WANT TO OVERCOMPLICATE MY QUESTION, I JUST. THE WAY MY BRAIN WORKS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO COMPENSATION FOR OUR STAFF, THAT'S A THAT'S A THAT'S A POINT FOR ME. SO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO AND WHEN AND HAVE JUST KIND OF A BETTER IDEA ON THAT. SO THAT IT'S NOT VAGUE. OUR STAFF ARE HERE, THEY'RE LISTENING. AND SO THIS IMPACTS THEIR LIVELIHOOD. SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. THANK YOU. MAYOR. YES. AND WE WILL DEFINITELY AS THE CITY MANAGER STUDY, WE STILL HAVE MORE TIME TO WASH THINGS OUT. THE ONE THAT'S YOU KNOW, THE MOST THAT WE STILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IS THE ARC. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING THAT'S GOING TO YOU KNOW, WHATEVER OUR MODEL IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE FOR RUNNING IT. IT'S GOING TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE WITH THE STEP INCREASES AND INCREASING THE COLA BACK TO 2% AND AND JUST TO. JUST TO THROW THIS OUT THERE TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION, IF ONLY FOR ME. CAN WE EXPLAIN IN MORE DETAIL WHAT RECLASSIFICATION IS? BECAUSE IT MEANS IT MAY MEAN SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO EVERYBODY. SO FOR THE PUBLIC AND JUST TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND IT, BECAUSE AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE NOTED, THERE'S A LOT OF RECLASSIFICATION GOING ON. SO WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND SPECIFICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE FOR THE BUDGET AND FOR FOR THE STAFF. MISS GREENLEE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW IF I EXPLAIN IT, I'LL TALK TO IT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. OUR RECLASSIFICATION IS JUST. [00:55:02] ALL OF THOSE CLASSIFICATIONS ARE FULL TIME. I DO BELIEVE YOU'RE JUST TAKING THAT POSITION, ADDRESSING THE ACTUAL SCOPE AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THE POSITION AND THEN MOVING IT UP A GRADE WITHIN THE CURRENT SCALE. ALL THOSE POSITIONS ARE CURRENTLY OCCUPIED RIGHT NOW. SO ALL YOU'RE TAKING IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY MAKING BASE PAY, NOT THEIR SALARY OR I'M SORRY, NOT THEIR BENEFITS, NOT TMS, ANY OF THAT, JUST THEIR BASE PAY. AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE FROM ONE GRADE TO THE NEXT. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THAT'S BEING CALCULATED IN THE IN THE THE BUDGET. MISS GREENLEE, IS THIS. YOU SAID THAT. IS THIS THAT BECAUSE IT'S SAFE TO ASSUME THAT THESE ARE PAY GRADE CHANGES, AND ALL OF THEM LOOK LIKE TO BE INCREASED PAY GRADE CHANGES, THAT IT'S SAFE TO ASSUME THAT THESE ARE ALL PROMOTIONS THAT WOULD INCREASE THE PERSONNEL BUDGET FOR ALL OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS. YES, MA'AM. AND IT'S A CREATIVE WAY TO DO MORE WITH LESS, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD. YES, WE ARE COMPENSATING THOSE INDIVIDUALS. A LOT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE ALREADY DOING THE JOB. BUT THE THE COMPLAINT IS I'M DOING SO MUCH AND I'M NOT GETTING COMPENSATED FOR IT. SO IT'S A WAY IN THE HR DEPARTMENT TO ASSESS WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEIR PAY MATCHES THE WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING. SO THAT'S A WAY TO REWARD THE EMPLOYEE FOR DOING MORE WORK WITHOUT HAVING TO GET MORE POSITIONS IN IT. SO IT'S AN ECONOMICAL WAY, AND IT'S ALSO A. A FAIR WAY TO TO COMPENSATE EMPLOYEES FOR THE ADDITIONAL WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING. I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. AND MAY I JUST HAVE ONE MORE THING SO I CAN APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT MATTERS OVERALL. I, I THINK WHERE I'M TRYING TO CONNECT THE DOTS IN MY BRAIN, WHICH IS WHY I ASKED FOR IT TO SEE AS DEFINITELY IS. IT WAS STATED THAT THE INITIAL STUDY THAT WE DID FOR EMPLOYEE PAY THAT WE WERE PRESSING PAUSE TO MOVE FURTHER BECAUSE TO SEE WHERE WE BALANCE OUT WITH THE ARC, HOWEVER, WE'VE IDENTIFIED INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION THAT ARE DEEMED TO GET AN INCREASE. AND SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FAIRNESS AND EQUITY, THEN I QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WHAT MAKES THIS PERSON MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE NEXT? IF THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY SAID DO EVERYBODY. SO IF IN MY OPINION, IF WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO EVERYBODY, THEN WHY DO ANYBODY? AND WHICH IS WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE WITHOUT THE PROMOTIONS NOT TO RUFFLE FEATHERS, BUT JUST TO LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, SINCE IT HAS DEFINITELY MADE AN IMPACT ON YOUR PERSONNEL COST. CAN I CAN I RESPOND TO THAT? MAYOR? MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION THAT THAT IS THAT THAT COULD BE THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE, I GUESS, FACTORS TO SAY WHY? WHY GIVE? YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE AND NOT EVERYONE THE THE RECLASSIFICATION WOULD HAVE HAPPENED ANYWAY, REGARDLESS OF THAT. IF IF THAT INCREASE, IF THAT 3.5% INCREASE HAPPENS OR NOT. THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE ACTUALLY, THROUGH AIR HAD TO ASSESS THEIR OPERATION WHAT THEY DO COMPARED THEM WITH OTHER CITIES. IT DOES TWO THINGS. ONE, AS AS DANNY MENTIONED, IT FAIRLY COMPENSATES THEM FOR THE WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING. AND TO EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEE ATTRACTION AND RETENTION IS REALLY KEY BECAUSE THOSE EMPLOYEES, IF THEY FEEL ANY, ANY EMPLOYEE IF IF THEY'RE NOT COMPENSATED RIGHT FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DONE, THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE ORGANIZATION. AND I'M JUST GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU A REPLACEMENT OF ONE EMPLOYEE, REGARDLESS OF THEIR POSITION, IS A MINIMUM OF $30,000. THAT WOULD COST THE CITY IN INTEGRATING AND TRAINING AND ONBOARDING ALL OF THAT STUFF. SO FOR US, IT'S ALWAYS A WIN. IT'S NOT JUST A FAIR WAY OF DOING IT, BUT IT'S ALSO THE SMART WAY OF OF TAKING CARE OF THE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE THERE, WHO ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AND GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE. AGAIN, WE LOOK AT THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE EMPLOYEES AND SAY THIS IS THE ROLE OF THE EMPLOYEE, BUT HE OR SHE IS DOING A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOVE THAT. YOU KNOW, FROM A HUMAN RESOURCES STANDPOINT, WE WANT TO ALSO BE PROTECTED AS AN ORGANIZATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DON'T LOSE THE EMPLOYEES. AND TWO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A CHALLENGING SITUATION ON OUR HANDS. I CAN RESPECT THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT EXPLANATION. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO PIVOT HERE. IF WE'RE DONE WITH DISCUSSION AROUND PERSONNEL AND THAT IS AROUND CAPITAL OUTLAY. [01:00:06] SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE FY 2026 CAPITAL OUTLAY? LINE ITEMS IN WHICH DEPARTMENT THOSE PURCHASES WILL SUPPORT? DO YOU MIND IF WE WILL GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT? BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO. WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. WE CAN DRILL DOWN AND PREPARE A SCHEDULE. AND THEN ONE OF THE LATER BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK. SURE. WE SURE WE'LL DO THAT. AND I'D LIKE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION TO THAT. OR THESE CAPITAL PURCHASES, REPLACEMENT OF AGING EQUIPMENT OR NEW ADDITIONS FOR EXPANDED SERVICES. ARE WE ANTICIPATING GROWTH HERE? YES. THE ANSWER IS YES. PART OF IT IS REPLACEMENT OF EQUIPMENT, AND PART OF IT IS REPLACE IS ADDING NEW EQUIPMENT. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS A PROPOSAL AND IT'S NOT IN THE GENERAL FUND, BUT IN ANOTHER FUND THAT THERE'S A PROPOSAL TO ADD ANOTHER SWEEPER. SO WE CAN CONTINUE IN THE MOTTO OF KEEPING DESOTO BEAUTIFUL, MAKING SURE THAT WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE INCREASE THE FREQUENCY OF OF HOW WELL WE SWEEP OUR STREETS AND OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS AND SPECIFIC. SO YES. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND PROFESSIONAL FEES. IT'S ABOUT A $2 MILLION CHANGE. CONSIDERING THAT WE HAVE THE CHANGES IN THE PERSONNEL. CAN WE JUST GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT PROFESSIONAL FEES AND WHY THAT ACTUALLY HAS CHANGED? ABOUT 2 MILLION IN THERE. YEAH. WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE YOU A A LIST OF ALL THOSE CHANGES FOR 26 AND 27, AS I MENTIONED, ABOUT TEN MINUTES AGO. OKAY. THANK YOU. MR.. CHAIRMAN. OKAY. OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES ARE LISTED HERE BY CATEGORY. WHAT? OUR BUDGET WAS FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR 26 AND PLANNING 27. THE MAJOR CHANGE HERE, OF COURSE, IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FISCAL YEAR 25 AND FISCAL YEAR 26. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING ABOUT 7 MILLION TO THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE. AND YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES LISTED HERE AND HOW THEY RELATE TO THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN BY PERCENTAGE. OF CORRESPONDING EXPENDITURES HERE. 64.0 0 MILLION BUDGETED FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR AND 71.501 AND HOW THAT'S BROKEN OUT BY ACTUAL DEPARTMENT. SO YOU CAN SEE THE DEPARTMENT INCREASES THERE. WE'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT ALREADY SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS WHO ADD WHO ARE ADDING OR RECLASSIFYING POSITIONS. SO SOME OF THE LARGER JUMPS THERE ARE UNDOUBTEDLY DUE TO STAFF TO PERSONNEL. SO SPECIFICALLY, OF COURSE, PARKS AND RECS, YOU KNOW, 6.2 MILLION BUDGETED THIS YEAR, COMPARED TO 9.8 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 26 AND SOME OF THE OTHER CORRESPONDING DEPARTMENTS AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE LISTED THERE. I WROTE IN MY NOTES IN THE MARGIN THAT WE ARE ACCOUNTED FOR $1.8 MILLION, BUT THAT PARKS AND REC, WHEN WE DIVE INTO IT. WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE I CAN WRAP AROUND LIKE THE ARC, WHICH HE TOLD ME WAS 1.8, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GO FROM ONE POINT TO NOW, THE 1.8 THAT'S SPECIFICALLY PERSONNEL, AND THAT'S ONLY THE 53 NEW POSITIONS. THAT'S ONLY THE 53 EDITION. SO THAT THAT IS THAT'S ONLY PERSONNEL. THAT'S NOT OPERATION OF THE FACILITY. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. OKAY. IF IF I MAY ADD YOU KNOW, THERE IS THERE'S SEVERAL COSTS TO THIS. THERE'S THE PERSONNEL COST OF $1.8 MILLION. THERE'S UTILITY COSTS OF ABOUT 300, $300,000 FOR ELECTRICAL. THERE'S CHEMICAL COSTS. THERE IS INSURANCE COSTS, THERE'S CLEANING COSTS. ALL OF THAT ADD TO A VERY LARGE NUMBER. AND THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE OLDER MODEL AND SEE HOW WE CAN EITHER BE COST NEUTRAL OR OR. ENHANCE WHAT WE, WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. [01:05:02] SO THE REAL OPERATION OF THE ARC CENTER IS GOING TO BE OVER $4 MILLION JUST FOR FOR EVERYONE'S INFORMATION. I APPRECIATE THAT. I WOULD LIKE FOR US MR. GLOVER WHEN WE STARTED THIS WHOLE PROJECT WITH ARC, THERE WAS A PERFORMER THAT WAS PROVIDED. THIS IS A STATEMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO THAT PROFORMA TO SEE HOW WE'RE TRACKING. BECAUSE WE DID A REVENUE PROJECTION. WE DID A COST RECOVERY. WE DID ALL OF THAT STUFF UPFRONT SO THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY SURPRISES. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE WE MISSED THE MARK OR IF WE MISSED THE MARK OR WE JUST LOOKING AT IT DIFFERENTLY. SO THAT'S FOR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS IF WE COULD. THANK YOU. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU WERE SAYING? I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT YOU KNOW, ON THE EXPENSES, ON THE ARC, THE ADVERTISING FOR IT. BECAUSE THIS ARK HAS TO WORK FOR DESOTO. THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE NEVER DONE. AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS REVENUE VERSUS EXPENSES. I MEAN, THERE'S NO WIGGLE, WIGGLE ROOM. SO YOU'RE SAYING $4 MILLION TO OPERATE? THEN WHERE'S THE MARKETING FOR IT? WE SHOULD BE LIKE, JUST BE MARKETING EVERYWHERE. HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING FOR MARKETING FOR THIS? BECAUSE FOR WHAT I'M SEEING, IF IT DON'T WORK, WE'RE IN TROUBLE. SO CAN YOU TELL ME SOMEBODY, CHRIS, AND SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW MUCH WE SPEND FOR MARKETING FOR THIS? IN THE CURRENT PERFORMER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT WAS ABOUT 51 K THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR MARKETING. OKAY, WELL, HOPEFULLY WE CAN THESE TOURNAMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE NEED TO GET ON IT NOW BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL YEARS COMING UP. SO, ANYWAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU BET. THANK YOU. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. YEAH. IS THAT OKAY? MARKETING HAS TO HAPPEN IN OCTOBER. SEPTEMBER? OCTOBER. CAN'T WAIT. IT CAN'T WAIT FOR THE FOR THE PROJECT TO TO TO OPEN UP. SO THAT'S PART OF THE THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. THAT PART OF PART OF THAT COST THAT THE YOU KNOW, THE INITIAL COST IS GOING TO BE ABOUT MARKETING AND BRANDING AND NAMING RIGHTS AND EVERY OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE TO TO WORK ON. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH A MORE WITH A MORE DETAIL OF OF WHAT HAPPENS. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT CO-OP AGREEMENT, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE TURNKEY OPERATION HAS THE ABILITY TO DO MARKETING AND BRANDING AS WELL. SO REAL QUICK. OKAY, SO IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO FULL MARKET IT FULL BLAST TO OCTOBER, THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO BE BEHIND THE MARKETING WHICH I GET IT. BUT I KNOW RIGHT. THAT'S IT. GO AHEAD. MR. GODFREY, I WAS TRYING NOT TO SAY THIS, BUT I'LL SAY IT. WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, WE TALKED ABOUT PHILANTHROPIST. WE TALKED ABOUT NAMING RIGHTS. WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE THINGS WHICH YOU WOULD NORMALLY DO WHEN YOU SCHEDULE SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON THOSE ON THE PROJECT, ON THE PROCESS OR THE PROGRESS OF THOSE THINGS? ARE WE STILL WAITING OR HAVE WE NOT DONE ANYTHING BECAUSE THOSE THINGS ARE DESIGNED TO OFFSET THE COST? SO I WOULD I WOULD BE EXTREMELY INTERESTED IN KNOWING BECAUSE IT'S TAKEN HOW LONG TO BUILD IT. AND DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON THE HOOK TO OFFSET IT, TO GIVE US 5 OR $6 MILLION TO NAME IT? OR ARE WE STILL KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD? IS IS IS IS WHERE MY TO TO BORROW WHERE MY TREPIDATION WOULD BE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SCREAMING THIS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS AND I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW, IF NOT TONIGHT, THEN SOON. WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER. THE RFP FOR BRANDING, NAMING RIGHTS AND SPONSORSHIPS WILL CLOSE TOMORROW. AND WE WILL WE WILL REVIEW THE PROPOSALS THAT ARE SENT TO US. AND IMMEDIATELY WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, WE WILL WE WILL WORK WITH A CONSULTANT TO START THAT. THAT'S THAT DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS, WHAT HAVE WE DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS TO TO OFFSET THIS COST? WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SECOND RFP THAT WE PUT OUT. WE PUT ONE OUT EARLIER LAST YEAR, AND NEITHER ONE OF THE I THINK WE HAD TWO PEOPLE THAT TWO GROUPS THAT SUBMITTED SOMETHING AND THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT. AND SO THIS IS THE SECOND ONE ALSO. [01:10:01] THIS, THIS THIRD PARTY THAT WE'RE THAT, THAT, THAT WE MAY BE INTERESTED IN. THEY ALSO HAVE A PIECE IN THEIR PROPOSAL THAT TALKS ABOUT THAT AS WELL, WHERE THAT'S INCORPORATED IN WHAT THEY DO AS A THIRD PARTY. SO BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE, WE PUT OUT TWO RFPS, AND THIS IS THE SECOND ONE THAT WE PUT OUT. OKAY. SO FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RFP, THOUGH, ONCE WE GET THE RFP THAT'S WITHIN THE BUDGET OF THE ARC CENTER ALREADY. THAT'S NOT A PART OF 2026, RIGHT? NO, NO. THE RFP THAT WE PUT OUT IS A STANDALONE. SO ANY ANY REVENUE THAT COMES IN FROM THAT RFP IS NOT INCLUDED IN WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DISCUSSING TONIGHT. WHAT THE COST? WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS THE COST OF IT. THE COST OF PUTTING THE PEOPLE IN PLACE. THAT COST IS ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE EXISTING BUDGET. BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET THE MARKETING PEOPLE IN PLACE, YOU HAVE TO PAY THEM. RIGHT. SO THAT PART IS ALREADY A PART OF THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET THAT WE'RE IN. AS AS CHRIS MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S $51,000. OKAY. SO THAT'S A PART OF THAT ARGUMENT. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. THAT'S CORRECT I APPRECIATE THAT. NOW WE MOVE INTO THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND. THE FIRST DEPARTMENT IS CITY COUNCIL AND CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE. YOU HAVE AN OVERVIEW OF SERVICES OFFERED. I WON'T READ THROUGH THEM, BUT THESE ARE THE SERVICES OFFERED BY THAT OFFICE. AND THE HIGHLIGHTED CHANGES FOR THAT DEPARTMENT. WE HAD A DECREASE IN SPECIAL EVENTS. SOME OF THAT TRANSFERRED TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES BUDGET. MEMBERSHIPS AND SUBSCRIPTIONS INCREASED SLIGHTLY. AND CITY COUNCIL FOR CITY SECRETARY. THERE WAS THAT ONE CLASS. AND. I BELIEVE I'M SORRY. I BELIEVE THIS IS A MISTAKE. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS A PART OF OF THE BUDGET. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. YEAH. THIS ONE SHOULD NOT BE ON THERE. THERE IS NO REQUEST OCCURRING FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR IN THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE. MEMBERSHIPS AND SUBSCRIPTIONS. WE HAVE THOSE LISTED HERE. WHAT THOSE AMOUNTS ARE FOR AND HOW MUCH FOR I IN CANVA MISS OUT AND WOULD THIS BE UPDATED ONLINE? OKAY. AMENDED TO REMOVE. YES WE WILL UPDATE THAT ONLINE. AND THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO PAGES THAT KIND OF SAY THE SAME THING. YOU JUST HIGHLIGHTED THE SECOND ONE. SO BOTH OF THOSE WILL BE REMOVED AND UPDATED. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL AND CITY SECRETARY, WE MOVE INTO THERE. THERE. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY HIGHLIGHT FOR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OF THIS YEAR. SO WE WILL MOVE INTO COMMUNITY SERVICE AND EXTERNAL AFFAIRS, WHICH IS THAT. WHICH MEANS THERE'S NO CHANGE AS MAYOR. YEAH. NO, I, I HAVE A QUESTION. AND IT'S VERY, VERY TRIVIAL IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, BUT I SEE THAT THE ON THEIR THEY HAVE A CANVA ACCOUNT. IT'S LIKE $120. CANVA HAS AN ENTERPRISE ACCOUNT THAT CAN BE USED ACROSS ENTIRE ORGANIZATIONS, AND I WOULD I WOULD HOPE THAT WITH US ADDING A DIGITAL MARKETING MANAGER, IF THAT'S IF THAT'S APPROVED, THAT WE WOULD GET AN ENTERPRISE ACCOUNT THAT WAY, THAT THE ENTIRE CITY IS USING THE SAME ACCOUNT VERSUS ALL OF THESE SEPARATE ACCOUNTS. THAT COULD POSSIBLY CREATE A COST SAVINGS THERE, AS WELL AS MORE CONTINUITY OF OF THE COLLATERAL THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRODUCING. OF COURSE, ALL THE TEAMS CAN KIND OF WORK TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT'S BEING PRODUCED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S CONSISTENCY IN WHAT'S GOING OUT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE SURELY WILL DO THAT. OKAY. SO OUR OVERVIEW FOR COMMUNITY AFFAIRS LISTED HERE WITHIN COMMUNICATIONS MARKETING AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS. THOSE ARE THE SERVICES THAT ARE OFFERED BY THE DEPARTMENT. COMMUNICATIONS DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHANGES, MARKETING DIDN'T HAVE MAJOR CHANGES. AND THERE WAS IN ADDITION OF A POSITION IN COMMUNITY RELATIONS, DIGITAL MEDIA SPECIALISTS. THE LAST BULLET. MAYOR, IS PART TIME. [01:15:02] CAN THAT BE UPDATED AND ADDED THAT WAY TO ON THE WEBSITE. SO IT APPEARS THAT WAY? YES. YEAH. AND THESE WERE THIS ONE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH CLASS THAT WAS ON THE ONE OF THE FRONT SLIDES WITH THE PERSONNEL CHANGES. HEALTH INSPECTOR THAT'S CURRENTLY A GRADE 109 WILL BE RECLASSED TO AN ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH MANAGER. GRADE 114. NO ACTION, NO MAJOR CHANGES IN THE ACTION CENTER AT THIS TIME. CURRENT PROJECTS ARE LISTED HERE. NANCE FARM RENOVATION. WITHIN THE CULTURAL, ARTS AND HERITAGE. AND ALSO THE DESOTO ARTS LAB. OUR NEXT DEPARTMENT IS FINANCIAL SERVICES. THESE ARE THE VARIOUS AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES LISTED HERE. BUDGET. FINANCIAL REPORTING. OUR AUDIT, INVESTMENT, COLLECTION AND RECORDING OF ALL FUNDS RECEIVED AT THE CITY. PAYMENT AND RECORD RECORDING OF VENDOR EXPENSES. PAYROLL, BOND SALES AND PURCHASING. WE HAVE A SLIGHT INCREASE IN OUR COST TO DALLAS CITY OF DALLAS. SORRY FOR DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT. THAT IS INCLUDED WITHIN THE FINANCIAL SERVICES BUDGET AND POTENTIAL INCREASE FOR ADDITIONAL ACCOUNTING SERVICE RELATED TO THORN TREE. AS WE KNOW WITH THE PURCHASE OF THORN TREE WILL IN THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT SET OF ACCOUNTING STANDARDS. AND SO NOW THAT THAT IS A PUBLIC FACILITY, WE HAVE TO BRING THAT ONTO OUR BOOKS. AND THERE IS QUITE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK INVOLVED WITH TRANSFERRING ALL OF THAT OPENING OVER TO US, THE OPENING OF NEW BANK ACCOUNTS THE RECONCILIATION OF ASSETS. AND SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF REVIEWING THE VARIOUS CONTRACTS THAT CAME ALONG WITH THE PURCHASE SO THAT WE CAN RECONCILE WHAT WHAT WE OWN NOW VERSUS WHAT WE LEASE AND I MEAN, EQUIPMENT WHEN I'M REFERRING TO THAT GOLF COURSE, CARTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS. SO THERE IS A GATSBY STANDARD THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW TO RECORD LEASES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO NOW OUR LEASE AND SUBSCRIPTION TASKS THAT'S RELATED TO THE AUDIT DID GET GREATER FOR US WITH THE ADDITION OF THOSE NEW ASSETS. SO WE MAY NEED SOME ADDITIONAL ACCOUNTING ACCOUNTING SERVICES. I DID PUT SOME MONEY IN OUR BUDGET FOR THAT TO TAKE ACCOUNT FOR THAT AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE DOING THAT PROPERLY. WE HAVE NEVER ACCOUNTED FOR A GOLF COURSE BEFORE, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE USING ALL OF OUR EXPERTISE TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING IS ACCOUNTED FOR PROPERLY. QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. WHEN YOU SAY THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL INCREASE IN AS FAR AS THIS DOCUMENTATION THAT WE HAVE, WHERE IS THAT LISTED IN OUR DOCUMENTATION? IT'S IN THE FINANCIAL SERVICES PROFESSIONAL SERVICES LINE ITEM. SO YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE IN OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES LINE ITEM. SO THIS IS JUST FOR THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT ONLY. YES. AS IT RELATES TO THORN TREE. YES. AND THE ADDITIONAL HELP THAT WE MAY BE NEEDING FOR THE ACCOUNTING SERVICES THAT WILL BE HANDLED IN FINANCE. OKAY. AND SO WHEN WE DID THE YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET MESSAGE, I DIDN'T SEE THAT CHANGE ON THERE. ON THAT FIRST, YOU KNOW, IN THE BUDGET MESSAGE TO SAY FINANCIAL SERVICES NEED TO DO THIS, THIS AND THIS, BECAUSE THAT IS THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING. SO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WOULD THAT BE UPDATED AS WELL BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S ON ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL. IT'S THE CITY MANAGER'S LETTER TO CITY COUNCIL. SO IT WOULD BE HIS DISCRETION IF HE WANTS TO INCLUDE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT IN HIS LETTER TO COUNCIL. CAN WE MAKE CERTAIN THAT. I INCREASED. SO THE AMOUNT IS 30,000. I INCREASE THEIR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE ABOUT 30,000 TO ALLOW ROOM, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT TYPE OF ASSISTANCE. THANK YOU. MISTER. I WAS GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION. YES. SO THIS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACCOUNT FOR THE ASSET CORRECTLY. CORRECT. THIS IS NOT AN OPERATING ISSUE. THIS IS JUST FOR THE ACCOUNTING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO BE AT THE TOP OF OUR GAME. CORRECT. YES, ABSOLUTELY. [01:20:03] BECAUSE IF YOU, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH OUR CURRENT AUDIT FIRM AND THEY ARE CONTRACTED WITH US TO REVIEW A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FUNDS AND A CERTAIN NUMBER OF ENTITIES, IF I WOULD SAY SO, IF WE'RE BRINGING IN A GOLF COURSE NOW. AND SO THERE MAY BE A COST INCREASE FROM OUR AUDIT FIRM FOR BRINGING THAT ON AND HAVING TO EVALUATE THAT NOW. AND JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE WE WOULD EXPECT THE ASSET TO COVER ANY LIABILITY TO, TO IN ANY BUSINESS. SO THIS $30,000 WILL BE AN INTER-DEPARTMENTAL TRANSFER TO THAT ASSET, SO THAT WHAT IF WE KEEP IT FOR ANY TIME? WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT AS CASH FLOWING AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. YES. THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL MEMBER, IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE FINANCIALS IN THE IN THE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES. AND SO IT'D BE A LINE ITEM, A DUCT LINE ITEM. AND IT WOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THE REVENUES THAT YOU WILL SEE FOR 2026. BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF WHAT I ASKED, WHAT I'M ASKING IS, IS WHERE IS IT NOW? IN HERE IN THESE DOCUMENTS. IT IS IN THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT. YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE FROM PROFESSIONAL SERVICE FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 TO FISCAL YEAR 26. THAT INCLUDES THIS ACCOUNTING HELP THE ENTIRETY OF THE YEAR. THE YES, MA'AM. THE ENTIRETY OF THE YEAR. AND SINCE FINANCIAL SERVICES UNDER THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, IT'S NOT CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS ASSET. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S THAT'S MY BLESSING. THANK YOU. MISS SUTTON. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOOD ON TIME TONIGHT. WE'RE AT ABOUT 620. WHERE ARE WE IN YOUR PRESENTATION? WELL WE NEED TO. WE NEED TO FINISH THE GENERAL FUND. AND THEN OUR NEXT WE WERE GOING TO GO INTO THE CO-OP AGREEMENTS AND TRY TO FINISH THAT TONIGHT. WE WANT TO PICK UP WITH UTILITIES IN THE MORNING. SO IF WE CAN MAKE IT THROUGH THE CO-OPS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WELL, WE STILL WOULD HAVE, UNLESS. WAIT, DID WE WE HAVE TONIGHT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW WE CAN ROLL OVER ON THOSE. WE STILL HAVE HOT FUNDS. I KNOW WE DID. THERE WAS A MENTION OF HOT FUNDS. WAS THAT THE PRESENTATION THAT WE WERE COVERING ON HERE? SO WE CAN CHECK THAT OFF AS HAVING BEEN DONE. AND THEN WE HAVE DISCUSSION OF DESOTO DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BUDGET AND WORK PLAN. ARE WE ANTICIPATING THAT IS FOR ON TONIGHT'S GETTING TO THAT TONIGHT TOO. YES. SO COUNCIL WITH YOUR QUESTIONS BE MINDFUL OF THAT. WE WANT TO TRY TO WRAP UP NO LATER THAN 8:00. SO WE HAVE ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF TO GET THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE GENERAL FUNDS AS WELL AS CO-OP. AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUDGET AND WORK PLAN. MR.. CARLSON, I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU WILL BE LEADING US OUT ON THAT PRESENTATION. CAN YOU GIVE US JUST A FROM YOUR VANTAGE POINT, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT MAY TAKE YOU TO GET THROUGH THAT PRESENTATION? IT WON'T BE VERY LONG. IT WON'T BE VERY LONG. OKAY. VERY SPECIFIC. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, COUNCIL, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. WE WANT TO MAKE THE BEST USE OF OUR TIME. SO AS WE FRAME OUR QUESTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, JUST MAKE SURE YOU KEEP THE TIME IN MIND FOR TONIGHT SO WE CAN GET THROUGH AS MUCH AS WE CAN. THANK YOU. OKAY, THE NEXT DEPARTMENT IN THE GENERAL FUND WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. AND HERE WE HAVE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT SERVICES ARE OFFERED IN THAT DEPARTMENT. OF COURSE, PLANNING AND ZONING AND ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION. A CONTINUATION OF SERVICES OFFERED IN THAT DEPARTMENT. AND IF THERE ARE ANY HIGHLIGHTS IN ANY OF THE AREAS, LOOKS LIKE HERE. STREET AND FLEET. ONE CLASS THERE IS PURCHASE OF ASPHALT TO ADDRESS POTHOLES AND REPAIRS IN-HOUSE, AND PURCHASE OF CONCRETE FOR SIDEWALKS AND CURB REPAIR. WE HAVE A SECOND CLASS FOR THE PLANNING TECHNICIAN. GRADE 104 TO PROJECT COORDINATOR GRADE 106. AND YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER ADDITION OF PERSONNEL AND ONE OTHER CLASS LISTED IN FACILITY MANAGEMENT. COUNCIL. THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ASSIGNMENT FOR THE ONE STOP SHOP THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. FOR PARKS. AN OVERVIEW OF THE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS WITHIN PARKS PARK MAINTENANCE, THE RECREATION CIVIC CENTER, THE AQUATICS AND THE ROLES THAT THEY PLAY ARE LISTED HERE AS WELL, [01:25:06] AS WELL AS THE SENIOR CENTER. AND ALSO PARKS HANDLES ALL OF OUR SEASONAL PROGRAMING. I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M SORRY, CAN WE. I'M SORRY. I HATE TO TAKE US BACK. IF WE CAN GO BACK TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THERE'S A PART IN THERE WHERE PLANNING AND ZONING IS GOING FROM 20,000 FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, 20,000 TO 200,000. AND I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WAS SUCH A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION, MA'AM. I'M TRYING TO SELL MYSELF WITH THE CURRENT BUDGET FOR 2025. I DON'T THINK THE NUMBER IS 20 K, THE NUMBER IS 20 K FROM THE REVISED BUDGET, BUT THERE ARE SOME ENCUMBRANCES. AND THAT LINE ITEM. I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO A RESEARCH AND PROVIDE YOU WITH MORE INFORMATION TOMORROW. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. YEAH, BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE IT WENT FROM 1500 TO 20,000 TO 200,000. AND SO IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE ADDING PEOPLE TO THAT PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT. I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY THEY'RE GOING TO PLAN IT, ISN'T IT? BUT THERE WAS TWO FACILITIES MAINTENANCE PEOPLE CHANGES IN PERSONNEL. AND THEN WE'RE SAYING HERE WE NEED PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR SOMETHING. FOR PLANNING AND ZONING. AND I THINK WE JUST CHANGED A LOT OF EMPLOYEES IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING AREA. SO I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT WAS COMING FROM. SO YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T ADD TO ANY POSITION OR WE DIDN'T REQUEST ANY OF THE POSITIONS ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING TEAM. THAT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WILL ALSO SUPPORT THE FOUR YEARS OLD CODE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE ORDINANCES. SO WE'RE PLANNING TO DO SOME UPDATES AND CODIFY THE ORDINANCES. ALSO, YOU KNOW WE ARE ADDING MORE ORDINANCES. SO THOSE THAT DOLLARS WILL BE USED TO SUPPORT THESE EFFORTS. NOW, IN REGARDS TO THE FACILITIES POSITIONS, THOSE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DIFFERENT DIVISION. WE'RE ACTUALLY SAVING MONEY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING A CONTRACT TO SUPPORT THE HVAC AND MAINTENANCE AND JUST LIKE REGULAR MAINTENANCE FOR THE BUILDINGS. BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A TEAM UNHOUSED SO THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO ALL THESE REPAIRS IN-HOUSE RATHER THAN PAYING FOR A CONTRACTOR AND, AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE HAVE DEFERRED THE CODING OF, OF ORDINANCES FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND SO OUR ORDINANCES ARE REALLY OLD, IF YOU WILL, OR AND SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S A COST OF ABOUT 200 TO $250,000. SO WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY PUT OUT AN RFP WITH A PLANNING AND ZONING FIRM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO THAT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE MR. AL CASEY AND HIS TEAM FOR IS THE STUDY THAT WE'RE DOING TO DO THE ONE STOP SHOP. THAT IS A PRIORITY FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. THEY ARE DOING IT IN-HOUSE. THAT WOULD HAVE COST US $120,000 IN CONSULTANT FEES, SO KUDOS TO THEM. WE HAVE OUR FACILITIES MANAGER WHO HAS BEEN AMAZING AND HAS SAVED US SO MUCH HEADACHE AND MONEY. BUT WE KEEP IN MIND WE HAVE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ON A LOT OF OUR FACILITIES AND SOME OF THE STUFF. WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE. YOU KNOW, WE NEED STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS. WE NEED YOU KNOW, WE NEED FACILITIES, FOLKS, TO ASSESS CERTAIN THINGS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CATCHING UP FROM BEHIND. SO CONSULTANT SERVICES WE'RE NOT THERE. AND STAFF KNOWS I'M NOT. YOU KNOW, CONSULTANTS ARE NOT POPULAR WITH ME. IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IN-HOUSE WORK, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE NECESSARY, AND THEY'RE GREAT PARTNERS, AND THEY CAN BRING IN EXPERTISE THAT WE DON'T HAVE UNDERSTOOD. AND THAT'S PERFECTLY OKAY. BUT MY QUESTION. THE REASON I ASK THE QUESTION WAS BECAUSE THE OVERALL LOOK AT THE ACTUAL BUDGET, AND NOW THAT I HAVE THE NEW NUMBERS HERE THE, THE BUDGET, WE GOT, THE INFORMATION WE GOT TODAY, I'M LOOKING AT THE CHANGEOVER, AND IT SHOWS THAT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WAS FISCAL YEAR. IT WAS 59,359. AND THEN IT THE BUDGET WAS ACTUALLY 310,000. BUT WE'VE NOW SAID FOR 2025 OR 2026 WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL 200. AND WHAT IS THIS, 280,000 MORE IN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, NOT STAFF, BUT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. SO IF WE DIDN'T USE BUT 60,000 THIS PAST YEAR. NOW, GRANTED, I'M NOT SAYING EVERYTHING WAS DONE THE WAY IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE, [01:30:01] BUT THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A BUDGET FOR 310,000 THAT WASN'T USED. AND NOW WE'RE SAYING TO ADD ON TO THAT. I'M NOT, I'M NOT. I GUESS I'M UNCLEAR AS TO WHY WE COULDN'T KEEP THAT WHERE IT WAS AND USE WHAT WE HAD UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED MORE, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE JUST ADDING ON TO THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM. SO WE HAVE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE ALMOST WITH EVERY SINGLE DIVISION, RIGHT? WE HAVE THE ONE FOR ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION AND THAT WILL SUPPORT NEW SERVICES THAT WE'RE ADDING. ONE OF THE EXAMPLES IS THE CONSTRUCTION AND STANDARD SPECIFICATIONS OF THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE 10 TO 15 YEARS OLD. ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICE THAT WE NEED WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING WITH THE ORDINANCES. AND THOSE ARE LIKE FROM THE 1985. AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES UNDER OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE FOR TRAFFIC. WE ACTUALLY CUT THOSE BY A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND THAT WILL SUPPORT OUR OPERATION WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WENT IN FLASHING RED. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN FOR EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR THAT WE HAVE WE CURRENTLY ASKING FOR IN THE BUDGET 2026. I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU OUR, YOU KNOW, BREAKDOWN FOR THESE PLANS WHEN IT COMES TO ENGINEERING, CONSTRUCTION, PLANNING AND ZONING, BUILDING INSPECTION AND PERMITTING AND ALSO OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, BECAUSE I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS AND I'M REALLY A LITTLE ALARMED BECAUSE WE GOT A BRAND NEW DEPARTMENT, AND WE'RE SAYING WE NEED PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT 280,000 MORE THAN WHAT WAS BUDGETED LAST YEAR. AND WE GOT A BRAND NEW DEPARTMENT, ESSENTIALLY. SO I'M JUST A LITTLE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT. YEAH, DEFINITELY. AND IF I, IF I MADE ONE MORE COMMENT YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE ALSO ADDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM THE BOND. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, LIKE THE 750 K THAT WE HAVE FOR TRAFFIC SIGNAL UPGRADES. SO WE'RE USING THAT MONEY FOR CONSTRUCTION ONLY. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO TO DO THE DESIGN. SO THOSE THOSE CONSULTANT SERVICES THERE ARE PRETTY MUCH WE NEED THEM TO DESIGN PROJECTS OR SOME SORT OF PLAN REVIEWS. OR IN CASE IF WE LOSE A MANAGER OR WE LOSE A POSITION, THEN IT WOULD BE KIND OF LIKE ALSO SUPPORTING US IN THE OPERATION, YOU SAY, IN CASE WE LOSE A MANAGER, IN CASE IF WE JUST LOSE ANY EMPLOYEE, WHICH SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN THIS YEAR YOU KNOW, USUALLY IN OPERATION WE WOULD ADD LIKE SOME DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET. AND THEN IN ANY CASE FOR, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY BECAUSE WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF STUFF. RIGHT? WHEN IT COMES, LET'S SAY I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE FOR BUILDING INSPECTION. WE ONLY HAVE ONE PLANS, EXAMINER, AND WE HAVE THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR ANY REASON. IF WE LOSE THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL, WHETHER ON LEAVE OR YOU WILL FIND ANOTHER JOB PROMOTION. THEN WE WANT TO CONTINUE OUR OPERATION. AND THEN THIS WAY WE WOULD BRING A CONSULTANT TO DO THE PLAN REVIEW WHILE WE HIRE SOMEONE NEW, OR WHY THAT POSITION COMES BACK INTO INTO PLACE AT THE END OF THE YEAR. IF THAT MONEY IS NOT BEING USED, OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO, YOU KNOW, GENERAL FUND. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, THOUGH. I MEAN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF CONTRACTING, I JUST KNOW THAT CONTRACTING CONSULTING. AND WHEN IT COMES TO CITY GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE CONSULTANTS MAKING, YOU KNOW, WAY MORE THAN A REGULAR EMPLOYEE WOULD MAKE IN SOME, SOME, SOME INSTANCES. AND SO THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ADDING ON. AND THEN WE HAVE A BRAND NEW DEPARTMENT. SO THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK. MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT AND I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING FROM THE ORIGINAL HANDBOOK THAT WE RECEIVED ON PAGE 138. IN THAT ORIGINAL HANDBOOK, ON ONE, ON PAGE ONE, 38, ON THE FIFTH LINE ITEM FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CALLED OUT THE $200,000, WHICH I THINK IS THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IN YOUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW. AND IT SPECIFICALLY TIES THAT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING ORDINANCE CHANGES. RIGHT. AND FOR THOSE LISTENING, THIS IS A CONVERSATION WE HAD LAST YEAR. BUT WE DID WE COULDN'T BUDGET FOR IT. AND THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY ADVISED US THAT WE NEEDED TO START THINKING ABOUT, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE CASES THAT WE GET BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING BEFORE COUNSEL, HONESTLY, IF WE HAD A MORE MODERNIZED ZONING, WOULD NOT MAKE IT TO US OR IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER TO DO BUSINESS IN DESOTO OR OFFER MORE COMMERCIAL IN DESOTO AS WE ALL WANT. [01:35:02] JUST BRING US TO THE 21ST CENTURY, IN SHORT. AND SO WHEN I WHEN WE ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR, I WAS ALMOST CERTAIN THAT THE COST WAS MORE THAN 200,000. I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I WAS SHOCKED THAT THE $200 TO 200,000 STICKER BECAUSE I WAS EXPECTING MORE. IF IF I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH OUR CITY MANAGER, WHO ALSO IS A PART OF AN ORGANIZATION THAT SOLELY INVESTS TIME AND ENERGY IN PLANNING AND ZONING, THEY GO TO CONFERENCES ALL AROUND TEXAS AND TALK ABOUT PLANNING AND ZONING, SPECIFICALLY AROUND TEXAS. THIS SERVICE, THIS SERVICE HAS TO BE DONE AT A UNIVERSITY LEVEL FOR THEM COMING TO US AND ACTUALLY ANALYZING OUR ENTIRE CITY, NOT JUST ONE SINGLE PROJECT LIKE YOU WANTED TO SAY, HAMPTON ROAD. THIS IS ACTUALLY FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, RIGHT? AND THIS IS SOMETHING HISTORICALLY WE HAVE NOT DONE. AND SO. WITH RESPECT TO THIS INCREASE, WHILE I KNOW THAT IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE YEAR PRIOR I'M I MY MINDSET IS THAT I'M GOING INTO THIS, THAT I KNEW THIS WAS COMING THIS YEAR AND IT'S IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, THAT HANDBOOK THAT YOU GUYS GAVE US A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. AND THE I'M ACTUALLY HOPING THAT YOU CAN KEEP. MY HOPE IS THAT YOU KEEP IT AT 200,000 AND YOU DON'T COME BACK FOR AN AMENDMENT FOR MORE BECAUSE OF THE EXTENSIVE COST THAT IT TAKES TO DO THAT. I THINK THESE ARE ONE OF THOSE DOING BUSINESS EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE OPERATED IN A SMALL CITY FOR SO LONG. AND THE TRUTH IS, IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO THINK LIKE NECESSARILY A SMALL CITY. SO WE HAVE TO PAY THE COST IN ORDER TO ADVANCE WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE. AND THAT'S JUST MY $0.02. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM. NO, YOU CERTAINLY EXPLAINED THAT MUCH BETTER THAN I COULD. THANK YOU. YES, I WAS GOING TO GIVE HER KUDOS BECAUSE SHE DEFINITELY TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH IN TERMS OF THIS IS SOMETHING, NOT EVEN JUST A DISCUSSION. THAT HAS BEEN LAST YEAR. I THINK IT'S BEEN A CONVERSATION FOR MANY YEARS IN TERMS OF HOW ANTIQUATED OUR ORDINANCES ARE. SO MY QUESTION IS IN REGARD TO THE COST. IT'S KIND OF IT WAS SPIKE THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE JUST THE THE SHEER NATURE OF HAVING TO GET IT DONE. BUT IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS, WILL WE SEE IT BE REDUCED, POSSIBLY AS A RESULT OF THAT? OR IS THIS SOMETHING YOU ALL ANTICIPATE TO CARRY OVER INTO MULTIPLE YEARS? I ANTICIPATE THAT NUMBER WILL REDUCE SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS SUDDEN. YOU CAN CONTINUE. THANK YOU. NEXT IS PARKS AND RECREATION, AND WE HAVE THE THE VARIOUS PROGRAMS THAT ARE MANAGED WITHIN PARKS AND REC. WE HAVE PARK MAINTENANCE, THE REC AND CIVIC CENTER, THE AQUATIC CENTER, THE SENIOR CENTER AND SEASONAL PROGRAMING. BUDGET CHANGES FOR THAT DEPARTMENT. OF COURSE, THE ADDITION OF THE ARC A PARKS MASTER PLAN UPDATE AND DISCONTINUATION OF THE ICE SKATING RINK. AND AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER OF THE POSITIONS THAT WILL BE ADDED. IF THE CITY RUNS THE ARC WITH IN-HOUSE STAFF. IN THOSE CLASSES AS WELL. NEXT, WE MOVE INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND THE PROGRAMS WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT ARE LISTED HERE. OF COURSE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR SCHOOL SAFETY AND SECURITY AT THE ISD EMERGENCY SERVICES AS WELL AS INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ANIMAL CONTROL. I LISTED HERE A BROADER VIEW OF POLICE OPERATIONS. IT IS SUCH A VAST DEPARTMENT IN THE GENERAL FUND. ONE OF THE HIGHER OPERATING EXPENSE IN THE GENERAL FUND. ASIDE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO IN PD, WE HAVE LISTED HERE BY CATEGORY PERSONNEL FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT AS WELL AS A SUPPLIES CATEGORY AND SERVICES AND PROFESSIONAL FEES FROM FISCAL YEAR 25 TO FISCAL YEAR 26, AS WELL AS TRANSFERS OUT TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS FOR INTERNAL SERVICE ITEMS. OVER TIME, SALARIES INCREASE FROM 578,000 TO 828,000 IN THE PD, [01:40:07] AND SUPPLIES WERE INCREASED FROM 165,000 TO 218,000. SO THOSE WERE THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT THEY PROVIDED. MAY I ASK A QUESTION? SO AS FAR AS ANY RE CLASSES CONCERNED, WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF THE OVERTIME FOR ACROSS THE BOARD, DOES THE RE CLASSES CHANGE THAT BUDGET AS WELL. DOES IT MAKE IT HIGHER OR IS THAT WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM OR WHY IS IT. WHY IS THIS 800,000 THIS POLICE CHIEF WANT TO COME UP? AFTERNOON COUNCIL. MADAM MAYOR, YOUR QUESTION IS IF THE CLASS RECLASSIFICATION WILL AFFECT OVERTIME. THEY'RE NOT SWORN OFFICERS. IT WON'T. WON'T AFFECT THEM. THIS OVERTIME IS FOR MY WHOLE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS CODE ENFORCEMENT, ANIMAL CONTROL. THE SROS AND OUR REGULAR POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR REGULAR OFFICERS, THE CLASSES, OUR CODE AND ANIMAL CONTROL. I BELIEVE IN COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS. SO. MY QUESTION IS AGAIN. SO THE A28 IS ACROSS ALL POSITIONS. YES, SIR. OF OVERTIME? YES. SO ADDING MORE OFFICERS IS NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF YOU NEED MORE OFFICERS LIKE TIME WISE. IS THAT CORRECT? SO. SO IS THAT WHY WE HAVE OVERTIME IS I BELIEVE IT'S 750,000 FROM 500,000. THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING UP TO FOR NEXT YEAR JUST FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND THEN THE REST OF THE OVERTIME IS FOR THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENT. BUT NO, IF YOU ADDED FIVE MORE POSITIONS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE ABOUT NINE MONTHS FOR US TO GET THEM ON THE STREET. SO WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE AN OVERTIME ISSUE UNTIL THOSE OFFICERS BECOME THOSE THOSE RECRUITS BECOME OFFICERS. I WILL ADD ON THAT. SO IF WE DID, HYPOTHETICALLY, WE'RE ABLE TO ADD OFFICERS. YES. LET'S SAY I DON'T KNOW, A FEW OF THEM OR SOMETHING. SO YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE OVERTIME? YES. SO BUT IT WILL GO DOWN IN YEARS. GO DOWN EVENTUALLY. YES. YEAH. OKAY. AND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT THE OVERTIME TAKES IS NOT JUST THE VACANCIES. THERE ARE OTHER EVENTS AND THINGS THAT COVER THE OVERTIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU BET. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THAT'S QUITE A JUMP THERE. COULD WE. COULD WE SEE POST TODAY? BECAUSE I WANT TO BE FAIR. RIGHT. COULD WE SEE WHAT THE INCREASE LOOKS LIKE? SUBTRACT WHAT? YOUR. I GUESS WHAT REIMBURSEMENTS WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT, THAT. BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IF WE CAN FORECAST, YOU KNOW, EVENTS AND AND AND AND THAT SORT OF THING, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY IN REVERSE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK AND THEN MAKE IT MAKE SENSE AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE THIS IS HUGE. THIS IS TO ME, SHUT UP. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO YOU. YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING. YOU SAID IF YOU HAVE THE PERSONNEL, THE EXTRA OFFICERS LIKE COUNCILMAN WATERS MENTIONED IN THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD HELP OFFSET THIS OR EVENTUALLY KNOCK IT OUT. SO HAVE YOU ASKED FOR THOSE OFFICERS OR THOSE POSITIONS SO THAT WE CAN BATTLE THIS OVERTIME AND KIND OF CURTAIL THESE INCREASES IN THAT AMOUNT EVERY YEAR? I ASKED FOR FIVE OFFICERS. I DID AGAIN THIS YEAR. AND SO IF WE GET TO FIVE OFFICERS OR IF WE GOT MORE OFFICERS IN TIME, THAT THAT SHOULD HELP WITH THE OVERTIME BECAUSE OF WHAT THOSE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO DO. AND IF WE CONTINUE AS THE CITY GROWS AND EXPANDS, AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID, THEN WE SHOULD EXPAND AND GROW OUR DEPARTMENTS, ESPECIALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND IF WE DON'T DO THAT, THEN OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO BE MORE WORK FOR MY OFFICERS AND MORE OVERTIME. AND THEN THERE'S MORE EVENTS THAT HAPPEN AND WITH PAY RAISES AND THINGS. THEN OBVIOUSLY OVERTIME AND PART TIME MONEY IS GOING TO GROW. SO YES AND NO. IT WILL HELP THE OVERTIME, BUT IT WON'T IMMEDIATELY IMPACT IT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET THOSE OFFICES TRAINED AND PUT ON THE STREET, BUT IT WILL IMPACT IT FOR YEARS TO COME. THAT MAKES SENSE. AND WHAT DID YOU SAY AS IT RELATES TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ANIMAL CONTROL? YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT AND I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. SO THAT THAT 878 IS FOR MY [01:45:04] ENTIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH INCLUDES SROS ANIMAL CONTROL AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, ALTHOUGH THEIR THEIR OVERTIME BUDGETS ARE SMALLER, THAT STILL ADDED INTO THAT 878 FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ITSELF, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON SWORN OFFICERS. IT'S GOING FROM 500,000 THIS YEAR TO 750,000. AND SO AS MAYOR PRO TEM SAID, WE DON'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE REVENUE THAT COMES IN FOR THE REPLACEMENT FACTOR OF SOME OF THAT MONEY. SO THERE IS A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IF YOU SUBTRACT FROM WHAT WE'VE SPENT SO FAR THIS YEAR, IT WILL DEFINITELY IMPACT IT IN A NEGATIVE WAY. THANK YOU. ONE OF INFORMATION, JUST SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR, YOU KNOW, NO, I'M SAYING BECAUSE HE SAID 878 I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN IT SAID EIGHT. I'M SORRY. 28. 828. THANK YOU. I STAND CORRECT, MADAM MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN. NORTH. THANK YOU. CHIEF. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVERTIME INCREASE HERE, IN ADDITION TO THE STAFFING INCREASES HERE THAT WILL SUPPORT THIS. ARE THERE ANY SPECIAL INITIATIVES OR CAPITAL INVESTMENTS THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT? AND ARE WE MEASURING IMPACT IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY SAFETY OR OFFICER RETENTION. SO THIS OVERTIME THIS OVERTIME IMPACTS EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE WHEN OFFICERS ARE OUT OR WE HAVE A MINIMUM STAFFING ISSUE, THEN WE HAVE TO PAY OVERTIME TO TO REFILL THOSE POSITIONS SO THAT WE HAVE A MINIMUM STAFFING. WE KEEP THOSE LEVELS GOING, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF EVENTS IN THE CITY. WE HAVE A LOT OF OPERATIONS THAT WE RUN IN THE CITY. SPECIAL OPERATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO FUND WITH OVERTIME. AND SO THAT ALL ADDS UP. AND WE BROKE IT DOWN LAST YEAR TO WHAT THOSE EVENTS ARE, WHAT WE CONTROL, WHAT WE DON'T CONTROL, AND THEN WHAT WHAT IS ADDED IN DURING THE YEAR. I CAN DO THAT AGAIN FOR YOU IF YOU'D LIKE. SO WE CAN SEE HOW THAT IMPACTED US THIS YEAR. CAN WE CONSIDER USING A THIRD OUTSIDE SECURITY NUMBER? NOBODY HAD THEIR MIC ON. NO. SHE ACTUALLY TURNED IT OFF. I TURNED IT OFF, BUT I TURNED IT BACK ON. WOULD YOU GO AHEAD AND FINISH HER STATEMENT? SURE. THANKS FOR THIS. GO AHEAD. I BELIEVE I WAS ASKING. HAVE WE BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION OF THIRD PARTY SECURITY? FOR THE EVENTS TO SAVE ON COST TO INSTEAD OF THE AND USING IT FOR OVERTIME FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. SO WE MOVED OUR OVERTIME FROM THOSE FROM FOOTBALL GAMES AND FOOTBALL TOURNAMENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO A ANOTHER THIRD PARTY VENDOR THAT WOULD PAY OUR OFFICERS FROM THE ACTUAL ORGANIZERS OF THOSE OF THOSE TOURNAMENTS. SO THEY INCORPORATE SECURITY OFFICERS AS WELL TO OFFSET HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE THERE. AND SO THAT TOOK IT OFF OUR OVERTIME. WE MOVED THAT OFF. SO THAT CUT OUR OVERTIME DOWN QUITE A BIT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PLAYING PAYING OVERTIME FOR THAT. SO YES, WE HAVE DONE THAT. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, ANYTIME WE HAVE ANY CITY EVENTS OR WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY, WE WANT OUR OFFICERS THERE AND NOT A THIRD PARTY OFFICER. WE DO USE THOSE THIRD PARTY OFFICERS FOR FOOTBALL GAMES. THE HIGH SCHOOL TO TO ADD TO OUR SECURITY WITH OUR REGULAR OFFICES. SO WE DO INFILTRATE THAT. BUT THERE'S JUST SO MUCH WE CAN DO WITH OUTSIDE OFFICES AND NOT NOT SECURITY FORCES. YOU WOULDN'T WANT SECURITY HERE. YOU WANT TRAINED OFFICERS AND WE USE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE USE CONSTABLES. WE USE ANY OTHER ENTITY OFFICERS THAT ARE THAT ARE IN THE IN THE AREA. THANK YOU. CHIEF. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BRING ALSO TO THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION. AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WE HAD, I BELIEVE IT WAS MTI INSTITUTE THAT DID OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY, WHERE IT WAS AS ONE OF THE RESPONSES WAS THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE VISIBILITY OF THE POLICE OFFICERS IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I THINK IT WILL BE ALSO HELPFUL TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL, AS WE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS SUPPORTING THESE NUMBERS AS FAR AS GROWTH FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IN HAVING THAT, WE CAN TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE THAT IS SUPPORTING THE GROWTH THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. SURE, ABSOLUTELY. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? COUNCILMEMBER BIRD? YES. THANK YOU. CHIEF, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION. THE THIRD PARTY THAT I BELIEVE YOU'RE REFERRING TO, WE HAD A MEETING A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. AND IS IT ROLL CALL THAT YOU'RE USING? ROLL CALL IS A COMPANY THAT WE USE THAT THAT WILL HIRE OUR OFFICERS AND OTHER OFFICERS [01:50:03] FROM THE AREA IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS TO FILL THAT? YES. AND I DON'T KNOW. THIS IS A COUNT. THIS IS AN ACCOUNTING QUESTION FOR MISS SUTTON. I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE A VERY DETAILED QUESTION. IS THERE A WAY TO CATEGORIZE SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A FULLER PICTURE OF, OF WHEN THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE WORKING A DESOTO EVENT, GAME. PARADE XYZ. IS THERE A WAY TO CATEGORIZE THAT SO THAT WHEN WE COME TO THIS QUESTION, WE CAN CLEARLY IDENTIFY WHAT IS AND WHAT IS NOT? I'M GOING TO USE THIS WORD FORGIVEN. MISUSE OF OF OF SCHEDULING. I'M GOING TO USE THAT WORD BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH. YEAH. SO I THINK THAT WHAT WE WOULD WHAT WE WOULD NEED AND I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW IN, IN, IN, IN THE INDUSTRY I WAS PREVIOUSLY AND WE WOULD CATEGORIZE IT SO THAT WE COULD CLEARLY SEE WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. SO ON YOUR BUDGET, INSTEAD OF IT JUST BEING OVERTIME, IT WOULD BE OVERTIME, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CATEGORY, YOU KNOW, CITY EVENTS OR SO FORTH AND SO ON. IS THAT IS THAT POSSIBLE, MISS SUTTON? AS FAR AS THAT? IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE ALREADY IS DOING. WE DO THAT WE CATEGORIZE EVERY TIME SOMEONE WORKS OVERTIME, EXTRA HOURS, WE CATEGORIZE WHAT IS IT, A CITY EVENT. AND WE WENT OVER THIS LAST YEAR AND I CAN DO THAT AGAIN FOR YOU THIS YEAR. I CAN TELL YOU JUST HOW MUCH MONEY IS SPENT IN CITY EVENTS, WHAT THOSE EVENTS ARE. I CAN TELL YOU HOW MUCH IS SPENT ON MINIMUM STAFFING. WHAT THE WHAT THOSE EVENTS ARE. YES, I CAN DO THAT. ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION. I'VE NEVER BEEN A GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTANT, SO. BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THOSE IN THE GL THAT CAN ROLL UP TO HIS, HIS, HIS MAJOR CATEGORY OF WAGES SO THAT WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR AN EXTERNAL REPORT? WE COULD EASILY EXTRACT THAT INFORMATION. IT'S NOT SOMETHING AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD. I MEAN, AT THE DROP OF A HAT, YOU'LL BE ABLE YOU COULD STILL GIVE US THE THE ROLL UP. I THINK THAT WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM AND WHAT COUNCILWOMAN NORTH WAS SHOOTING AT IS TO BE ABLE. IF YOU'RE DOING IT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE IT AND WE CAN'T ANALYZE IT AND WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT. EVERY, EVERY PAY PERIOD, WE MY STAFF WILL CREATE ME A A SPREADSHEET OF EVERY CATEGORY OF ALL THE TIME. HOW MUCH WAS SPENT DURING THAT PAY PERIOD AND THEN HOW MUCH WAS SPENT FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR UP TO THAT POINT. SO I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU EVERY PAY PERIOD. WE DO THAT AUTOMATICALLY. AND SHE ALSO CALCULATES HOW MUCH REIMBURSEMENT WE HAVE COMING IN. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT TOTAL OVERTIME, WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S REIMBURSED AND WHAT SHOULD BE DEDUCTED FROM THAT IF WE'RE CREDITING IT OUT. BUT I CAN DO THAT FOR YOU. WE WE HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF WHAT THOSE THOSE CATEGORIES ARE. AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE JUST WHAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON. THANK YOU. CHIEF, THE QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. THE QUESTION IS A LITTLE DEEPER. CAN YOU PROVIDE THAT? BUT CAN WE PUT IT IN THE G. HOW CAN WE MAKE IT PART. CAN WE MEMORIALIZE THAT INFORMATION IN THE YES. LET ME WORK WITH HR. I BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS MORE OF A IT'S GOING TO COME THROUGH PAYROLL, RIGHT? SO THERE WILL HAVE TO BE A CODE CREATED. AND THEN WHENEVER THEY'RE ENTERING THEIR TIME, THEY WILL SELECT A CERTAIN CODE, AND THEN WE COULD MORE EASILY RECONCILE IT. SO LET ME WORK WITH PAYROLL IN HR AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED ON THAT SIDE AS WELL. THANK YOU. MY QUESTION IS, IS SINCE WE ARE ON THE STREAM BUDGET BECAUSE OF OUR ANTIQUATED WE CALL THEM PLANNING ZONING POLICIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET UPDATED. THANKS TO AHMED DOING A GREAT JOB. UNTIL THEN, WE NEED SOME EXTRA SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR YOU, RIGHT? YEAH. SO I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. WHEN I'M PASSING THIS POLICE STATION EVERY DAY, WHENEVER THERE'S A CELL PHONE TOWER ON YOUR PROPERTY. YES. IS THAT OWNED BY US, AND IF SO, THE QUESTION IS THIS SHOULDN'T WE BE PUTTING AN SOS OUT TO ALL THESE I DON'T KNOW, CABLE COMPANIES OR CELL PHONE COMPANIES? WE PUT TV COMPANIES, PUT AS MANY CELL PHONE TOWERS UP THERE FOR FREE REVENUE TO TO YOU OR IN MY WAY OFF BASE HERE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? SO THAT TOWER WAS A RADIO TOWER WHEN WE WENT TO A NEW RADIO SYSTEM WITH DALLAS COUNTY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. THEY CAME TO US AND ASKED IF THEY COULD PUT THAT TOWER UP THERE. WE WENT IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL. COUNCIL APPROVED IT AND GAVE THEM A SPECIAL EXEMPTION TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER TOWER IN THE CITY. AS A RESULT, THEY SAID, THE COUNTY WILL TAKE CARE OF MAINTAINING THAT [01:55:01] TOWER AND THE LITTLE BIT OF A LAND AROUND IT. AND BUT THEY SAID THAT WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT WITH THAT TOWER IF WE WANT TO RENT, LEASE, SELL TO OTHER ENTITIES. CELL PHONE, AS YOU SAY, AND THEY CAN PUT DISHES ON THERE OR WHATEVER OTHER ANTENNAS THAT WOULD BE UP TO US IF WE WANTED TO CONTROL THAT. SO THERE IS A CHANCE THAT WE COULD GET SOME REVENUE FROM THAT. THAT'S BEYOND MY PAY GRADE, BUT WE COULD LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE WHAT WE COULD GET WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S APPROVAL. WELL, CITY MANAGER, YOU HEAR THAT? SAID HE NEEDS YOUR APPROVAL. I YIELD BACK AS COUNCIL MEMBER. AS AS THE CHIEF SAID, WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT BECAUSE WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE FCC RULES. WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY, AND WE NEED TO TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS. AND THEN ALSO WE NEED TO CHECK THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE TOWER. YOU CAN'T JUST PUT STUFF ON IT. ABSOLUTELY. WITHOUT WITHOUT HAVING TO YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T TO FULLY ASSESS THAT. AND THEN IF WE DO THAT, WHO DO WE OFFER IT TO AND BY WHAT PERMISSION AND WHAT CAN WE GENERATE ON IT? SO IT'S A IT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS A MAJOR BEATING. SO GIVE US A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. I'M JUST ASSIGNING IT TO THE CHIEF RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ACTUAL THE BREAKDOWN OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THE CARES TEAM IS ACTUALLY. I MEAN, WELL, IT'S ABOUT ABOUT $2.4 MILLION CHANGE BETWEEN 2025 AND 2026. BUT THE ONLY DEPARTMENT OR THE ONLY AREA THAT'S REDUCING IS ACTUALLY CODE ENFORCEMENT. AND I, I'M A LITTLE SHOCKED BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CODE ISSUES THERE IN THE CITY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW IS IT THAT THE CARES TEAM IS ACTUALLY GETTING ABOUT 200 MORE? AND I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT WHOLE PIECE. AND THEN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS BEING REDUCED. THE CARE TEAM IS GOING TO BE ONE OF A SEPARATE ENTITY. THEY DO COME UNDER THE DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY HAVE THEIR UNDER A GRANT, SO THEY ARE UNDER A SEPARATE ENTITY AND THEY'LL BE BROUGHT UP LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. BUT THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT MONEY BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING TO EXPAND IT NEXT YEAR. IF WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND IT, THEN WE ADDED IN SOME EXTRA MONEY THAT MAYBE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, BUT THAT'S THAT'S UP IN THE AIR BECAUSE WE'RE STILL RESEARCHING THAT AND I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT. AND IN THE FUTURE WE'RE GOING IN THE NEAR FUTURE. IN THREE WEEKS, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION ON HOW THAT CARE TEAM IS GOING TO BE REIMAGINED, REIMAGINED AND AND CHANGED. OKAY. AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. CODE ENFORCEMENT. WELL, WE HAD TO REDUCE OUR BUDGETS BY A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE AFTER WE PROPOSED THOSE. AND SO WE REDUCED EVERY, EVERY DEPARTMENT BY A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE. AND SO CODE GOT REDUCED BY THAT. BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THEIR OVERALL BUDGET IS GETTING REDUCED AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING. I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU. I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. YEAH. IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT. BUT THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS ARE BEING INCREASED AS WELL. ABOUT 150,000. SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY CODE WAS OF THE THREE OF THE DIFFERENT ONES. CODE WAS REDUCED AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS ACTUALLY GETTING AN INCREASE. SROS WOULD BE INCREASED, PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE PAY RAISE, WHICH WAS A PAY RAISE, 1% RAISE. AND THEN THE STEP RAISES THAT THEY'LL GET. THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT'S FIGURED IN THERE. AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S INCREASED. AND SO OVER TIME WE GET A LITTLE BIT INCREASED IN THAT. BUT OPERATING EXPENSES ARE NOT INCREASED IN THE SROS. AND YOU WON'T YOU WON'T SEE THAT INCREASE. CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCREASED BY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THEN WAS DECREASED BY THE PERCENTAGE. WE HAD A DECREASE. OKAY. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT CODE COMPLIANCE SPECIFICALLY. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION. WHAT DID YOU SAY YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK AT AS FAR AS CODE ENFORCEMENT? WE WILL REVISIT CODE CODE COMPLIANCE, FINANCE BUDGET. I WORK WITH THE CHIEF AND MISS SUTTON AGAIN TO SEE WHERE, WHERE AND HOW MUCH WE'VE REDUCED IT AND WHY THAT WAS OKAY, AND POSSIBLY CHANGE IT POTENTIALLY. WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT IT WAS AND SEE WHERE WE CAN CHANGE IT AND ADD OR WHATEVER IT WAS THAT WE CUT OUT WHAT IT MEANS TO THE OVERALL BUDGET. WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH THAT. JUST MORE SPECIFICALLY, YOU DID NOT DECREASE THE STAFFING. NO, NO. STAFFING WAS NOT DECREASED. NOT INCREASED OR DECREASED? NO, SIR. OKAY. LOOKING AT THE DETAIL, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES LINE ITEM THAT'S IN CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT WAS DECREASED. WE BUDGETED FOR 65,000 IN FISCAL YEAR 25, AND THAT DROPPED TO 31,500. AND FISCAL YEAR 26. SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE BUDGET DETAIL AND SEE WHAT SPECIFICALLY [02:00:06] REDUCED IN THAT LINE ITEM IN CODE. SO SALARIES WENT DOWN 30,000, AS WELL AS POLICE DEPARTMENT CODE ENFORCEMENT FROM 564 9 TO 537. SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHAT PROMPTED ME TO ASK ABOUT THE STAFFING. OH. I'M SORRY. NO. GO AHEAD. THAT WAS THAT WAS PROFESSIONAL SERVICE. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE SALARY? LET US LOOK AT THAT AND COME BACK TO YOU, OKAY. WE WE KNOW WHAT THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES LINE ITEM IS, BUT WE I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE, THE THE STAFFING IN THE PAYROLL. LET US LOOK AT THAT AND COME BACK TO YOU TOMORROW. I'LL HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU TOMORROW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL CHIEF. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW TO ASK MY QUESTION. IT'S ONE THAT I PONDER OVER EVERY YEAR, BECAUSE I'M. I'M. THE WAY THAT I TRY TO FUNCTION AND THINK IS PROBLEM SOLVING, RIGHT? AND GETTING TO KIND OF THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE ISSUE. AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY BEEN SHORT OR DOWN, I'LL SAY, OFFICERS FROM YEAR TO YEAR WITH THE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF KIND OF THE IMMEDIATE SPIKE AND RESPONSE WE GOT WHEN WE INCREASED THE SALARIES, WHICH HAS BEEN GREAT, I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. HOWEVER, WE'RE BACK DOWN NOW, IF I'M CORRECT, IF I'M CORRECT, IF NOT, PLEASE CORRECT ME ON THAT. BUT WE ARE STILL DOWN NOW WE HAVE SOME VACANT POSITIONS. 77 RIGHT. AND SO WE VACILLATED BETWEEN SEVEN SOMETIMES AS MUCH AS TEN OR MORE. 22 RIGHT. SO WE WE'VE VACILLATED BETWEEN THAT AND WE'VE BEEN DOWN MORE THAN WE'VE BEEN UP AS IT PERTAINS TO THE WHAT IS IT, 80, 80, 88 POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE. AND SO MY QUESTION IS LESS ABOUT AND I RESPECTFULLY I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED YOU ASKED FOR FIVE OFFICERS EVERY YEAR. AND I, AS THE LONGEST SERVING COUNCIL MEMBER, I CAN I CAN ATTEST THAT THAT IS THE TRUTH. CHIEF HAS BEEN DOING THAT AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, AND THAT'S BEEN BEEN A WHILE NOW. SO, RESPECTFULLY, THOUGH I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T SEE ADDING MORE OFFICERS, MORE BUDGETED POSITIONS BEING THE SOLUTION TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE STILL CONSISTENTLY DOWN OFFICERS. I DON'T KNOW IF THE ATTRITION IS DUE TO RETIREMENTS CONSISTENTLY OR JUST LIKE WHAT'S CAUSING US TO CONSTANTLY BE VACANT. AND OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THAT IT TAKES A WHILE. EVEN IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT OFFICERS AND YOU'RE PUTTING THEM IN THE RIGHT SPOTS, IT TAKES. THERE'S SUCH A LAG WHEN YOU GET THE OFFICERS IN THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE QUESTION I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE QUESTION IS. I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE THAT THIS IS ON MY HEART AND MY MIND IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE LIKE WHAT'S GOING TO HELP US MAINTAIN AND RETAIN THE BUDGETED POSITIONS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SO THAT WE'RE NOT CONSISTENTLY LACK? AND, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S A AN ISSUE IN EVERY DEPARTMENT, WHICH I KNOW THAT MANY DEPARTMENTS STRUGGLE WITH THIS SAME THING. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST THE DESOTO PD THING. I THINK IT'S ACROSS THE INDUSTRY IN GENERAL. BUT THAT'S MY QUESTION. IT'S LIKE, HOW DO WE MAINTAIN AND RETAIN THE ONES WE HAVE FOR THE POSITIONS WE ALREADY HAVE BUDGETED? BECAUSE ADDING MORE POSITIONS THAT CAN'T BE FILLED IS NOT THE SOLUTION IN MY OPINION. SO LIKE, WHAT DO WE HOW DO WE SOLVE FOR THAT PAY? WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT WILL STAY FOR 2 OR 3 YEARS, AND THEN THEY'LL SEE THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE PAYING BETTER. THE NEW GENERATION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING THEY'RE LOOKING FOR WHAT'S THE NEXT BEST THING FOR THEM TO BE PAID BENEFITS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. THEY'LL STAY WITH US FOR A WHILE, AND THEN AND WE'LL BE PAYING. WE WE'RE WE WE'RE TOP OF THE PAY IN THIS AREA FOR A WHILE. AND NOW WE'RE NOT. AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS PAY MORE. AND THEY ATTRACT THEM WITH BIGGER BONUSES TO COME ON TO THEIR DEPARTMENT. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT PAY STRUCTURE AND SEE IF WE'RE WHERE WE NEED TO BE WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE AREA AS IT IS. OTHERWISE, WE WE GET UP FULLY STAFFED. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN THE COUNCIL GAVE US THOSE FIVE OVER HIRES AND AND WE RETAIN THOSE. AND SO WE'VE LOST SOME PEOPLE OVER TIME. SO WE DID HAVE 88 AT ONE POINT IN TIME. AND THEN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE LOST SOME AND GAINED SOME. AND SO I THINK WE'LL BE CLOSE TO GETTING TO OUR 88 AFTER WE FINISH TO THIS LIST THAT WE HAVE. BUT I THINK THAT WE I THINK THE COUNCIL HAS TO LOOK AT THE PAY AND HOW COMPETITIVE WE ARE WITH THIS AREA AND WITH SOME OF THE OTHER MAJOR DEPARTMENTS IN THE AREA, AND I AND I AND I HEAR YOU AND I, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT PAY IS IS A PART OF IT. I JUST WANT US TO LOOK AT AND OBVIOUSLY THAT DESERVES MORE TIME THAN WE HAVE HERE TONIGHT. BUT ARE THERE OTHER WAYS TO CREATIVELY PROBLEM SOLVE FOR THAT ISSUE LIKE OTHER THAN PAY? RIGHT. I KNOW BEING A BUSINESS OWNER MYSELF, I KNOW THAT ALL THE TIME. [02:05:02] PAY IS NOT THE ONLY REASON WHY SOMEBODY WOULD CHOOSE TO STAY OR TO LEAVE, RIGHT? AND SO JUST LOOKING AT AS AN ORGANIZATION AND AND THAT, THAT IT DOESN'T EVEN NECESSARILY JUST APPLY TO PD. BUT SINCE WE'RE HERE LOOKING AT LIKE, HOW DO WE CREATIVELY PROBLEM SOLVE FOR THAT? BECAUSE NOW THAT COUNCILS ARE HAVING TO DO MORE WITH A WHOLE LOT LESS IN TERMS OF OUR BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASING THE PAY, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO APPROACH THAT VERY CAREFULLY. AND OFTENTIMES THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE. SO ARE THERE OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT RETENTION AND OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO HELP US AT LEAST STAY WHERE WE NEED TO BE IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS WE ALREADY HAVE BUDGETED. AND THEN LOOK AT ADDING MORE ADDING MORE TO THAT. SO THOSE ARE JUST THAT'S JUST MY TED TALK FOR TONIGHT. BUT THANK YOU, CHIEF. I'M GOING TO ASK IF WE YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR. I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION. IS THERE EVER A TIME THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO OFFER THE OFFICERS ANY GETTING BONUSES FOR ANYTHING THAT WOULD COME WITH THE BUDGET THROUGH FINANCING THE CITY MANAGER. THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THE BONUSES COME. THE ONLY BONUS THAT WE WE'VE GIVEN IS PEOPLE COMING ON THAT ARE ALREADY CERTIFIED. AND WE GAVE A BONUS TO PEOPLE WHEN WE WERE DOWN, SOME THAT WERE JUST CIVILIANS THAT STILL NEEDED TRAINING AND GAVE THEM A $5,000 BONUS. WE NOW JUST GIVE A $10,000 BONUS TO TYCO CERTIFIED SO THAT WE CAN HAVE OFFICES THAT WILL HIT THE STREET IN FIELD TRAINING QUICKER, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO SEND THEM TO AN ACADEMY. SO IT'S USUALLY DURING TRAINING AND HIRING PRACTICES, NEVER DOING JUST TENURE TRAINING. WE HAVE NEVER DONE THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A RETENTION BONUS TO SHOW THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE THAT. SO IT'S NOT ONLY PAY RAISE BUT ALSO RETENTION BONUSES. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT ON POINT. AND IT SHOWS THEM THAT THE CITY SUPPORTS THEM AND WANTS TO RETAIN THEM AND APPRECIATES THEM. THAT'S TRUE. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHIEF. CHIEF, IF YOU DON'T MIND. STAY FOR ME. NEXT, WE'RE GOING INTO JUST DISCUSSING THE REGIONAL CARE TEAM. I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR THE PD THIS YEAR. SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE PD TO BRIEF YOU ON THE CHANGE IN THE CARE TEAM. SO RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO CHANGE. WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN CHALLENGED WITH FINDING A CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM AND EFFORT FOR THAT. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING TWO OR TO CHANGE THE WHOLE CARE TEAM AND THEIR PURPOSE AND THEIR DIRECTION. WE'RE STILL UNDER A GRANT. SERGEANT SUMMERS RUNS THAT CARE TEAM. I'M GOING TO HAVE HIM STEP IN AND TELL YOU WHAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEFINE FOR THIS NEXT YEAR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. THE STAFF OR CITY MANAGER. CITY ASSISTANT. CITY MANAGER. WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO ADD THAT 901 RESPONSE COMPONENT. AND WE'VE LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT MODELS, WHETHER THAT BE HIRING INTERNALLY OR WHETHER THAT BE CONTRACTING THAT OUT. NO DECISIONS ARE MADE FINAL ON THAT YET. WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE CONTINUATION OF THE PROGRAM GENERALLY. SERGEANT SANDERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I SEE YOU HAVE CEDAR HILL AND DUNCANVILLE LOGO UP THERE, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY BACKED OUT OF THEIR TEAM PROGRAM. IS THERE A REASON? IS THAT NOT TRUE? YEAH. THE CARE TEAM HAS NOW BEEN REBRANDED AS THE DESOTO CARE TEAM. THE ONLY CITY THAT WE PRIMARILY SERVE IS THE CITY OF DESOTO. HOWEVER, WE STILL DO OFFER LIMITED SERVICES TO THE ENTIRE REGION. THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND INTO OUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES. THAT IS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS IS THEY'RE RECEIVING MORE OF REFERRALS AND THEY'RE RECEIVING THAT KIND OF DIRECTION AS OPPOSED TO THE ACTUAL INTENSIVE ONE ON ONE WORK THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE DESOTO RESIDENTS. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, MISTER SERGEANT. EXCUSE ME. SUMMERS. I SEE THE NEW DIRECTIONS GRANT BY DALLAS COUNTY, WHICH WAS CONTINGENT ON THE REGIONAL PARTNERSHIP. HOW? I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS AN INCREASE WITH THE CARE TEAM, AND WE ACTUALLY DISCUSSED THIS LAST SUMMER AS WE TALKED ABOUT A MORE INNOVATIVE, INNOVATIVE APPROACH TO CRISIS ALTERNATIVE MANAGEMENT. RIGHT. SO WITH THE NEW DIRECTION DALLAS COUNTY GRANT AND THE EXIT OF CEDAR HILL AND DUNCANVILLE, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE GRANT? DO WE KNOW YET? THE GRANT WAS IS OVER. SO IT WAS RELATED TO THREE PRIMARY MUNICIPALITIES WHAT WE CALL THE I BELIEVE I DON'T WANT TO BUTCHER THE NAME. THE EASTERN ALLIANCE PRIMARILY RAN BY MESQUITE, [02:10:02] AND THAT INCLUDED FIVE CITIES, ROWLETT AND THEN THE CITY OF DESOTO, WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE SOUTHERN AREA REGIONAL TEAM. AND THAT IS OVER FOR ALL OF THEM, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DESOTO. DESOTO WAS STILL UNDER A GRANT. WE ARE PROVIDING A PORTION OF THAT IN THAT GRANT HAS BEEN EXTENDED, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS. WE HAVE THE CONTINUATION OF ALREADY EXISTING FUNDS. AND SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE 2026 BUDGET, THAT IS, YOU'RE ABOUT 200,000, 240,000 OF THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET IS STILL BEING PAID FOR BY THE GRANT AS WE SPEAK TODAY. AND THEN 500,000 WAS IN THE SALARIES LOOKING AT 2025. SO NOW YOU HAVE TO PUT THAT OPERATIONAL PORTION INTO THE BUDGET. AND SERGEANT SUMMERS THAT THAT GRANT WAS IT EXTENDED TO SEPTEMBER OR LONGER. THAT GRANT IS ACTUALLY MAY 26TH. IT'S EXTENDED FOR A TIME TO BE USED. HOWEVER, THE FUNDS IN IT WILL BE EXHAUSTED BY OCTOBER 1ST. WHAT WAS THAT PART OF THE FUND? THAT WAS THE REST OF THE FUNDING YOU ALL USED FOR THE VEHICLES THAT TOOK US OFF OF RENTAL TO JUST ON LAST COUNCIL MEETING, RIGHT. OR IS IT EXHAUSTED BECAUSE OF IT'S JUST MAINTAINING OPERATIONAL COSTS AND THERE'S NO EXTRA. NO. SO I HAVE THE BUDGET FOR TWO QUARTERS, THE LAST TWO QUARTERS OF THIS YEAR AND ALSO THOSE VEHICLES. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS ALLOW US TO EXTEND INTO THE FUTURE. OTHERWISE WE THE CARE TEAM DOESN'T HAVE ANY VEHICLES. WE HAVE NONE. WE RENTED ALL OF OUR VEHICLES. AND SO THIS ALLOWS US TO EXTEND THE CARE TEAM OPERATIONS BEYOND THAT. AND IT'S OVER 168,000 HAVE BEEN SPENT IN RENTAL VEHICLES SINCE 2022. BUT THAT'S REDUCING THE DEPARTMENT. YES. THAT'S REDUCING. SO YOU AUTHORIZE 111,000 FOR THOSE VEHICLES. AND NOT ONLY THAT, IT CONTINUES BECAUSE ON OCTOBER 1ST I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY FOR THE RENTALS ANYMORE. SO NOW I CAN CONTINUE TO FUND INTO THE FUTURE. NOT FUND HAVE VEHICLES. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION IS. AND I'M I'M I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. SO YOU SAY THAT THE ACTUAL GRANT IS OVER. IS IT OVER BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THOSE OTHER CITIES HAVE DROPPED OUT? OR IS IT BECAUSE THAT THE GRANT WAS ALREADY GOING TO BE OVER, YOU KNOW, THE INITIAL GRANT? AND DON'T QUOTE ME ON MY YEARS IN 2021. IT WAS A THREE YEAR GRANT, SO THAT WOULD HAVE ENDED IT IN 2024. HOWEVER, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THOSE EXTENDED MULTIPLE TIMES GOING INTO 2025. WE WERE TOLD BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT WAS COUNTY THAT IT WOULD NOT BE EXTENDED. HOWEVER, WITH SOME CREATIVE HELP, SOME CREATIVE ACCOUNTING AND MAYBE MAYBE A PHONE CALL FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER OR TWO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT EXTENDED. BUT AGAIN, THAT EXTENSION ONLY ALLOWED US TO USE THE MONEY THAT WAS ALREADY EXISTING. THERE WERE NO ADDITIONAL FUNDS ADDED TO THAT. OKAY. SO THE EXTRA 200 THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU SAID IS FOR OPERATIONS. DOES THAT INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL PERSON OR IS THAT I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY OPERATIONS, I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND NON-LABOR OPERATIONS. SO THE WAY THE GRANT WORKED IS PART OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE GRANT. YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT THE CITIES WERE GOING TO BUY INTO THE PROGRAM AND EXTEND IT BEYOND THE GRANT. AND SO EVERY YEAR YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT WE BOUGHT A VEHICLE, THAT WE HAD A FACILITY SO THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT THE CITIES INCLUDED WERE TAKING OWNERSHIP OF IT. SO ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, LAST YEAR'S BUDGET CYCLE, THE CITIES ALL ASSUMED THEIR PERSONNEL BECAUSE THE GRANT WAS INITIALLY PLANNED FOR 100%, WHICH ALSO, I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE BUT SPEAKS TO THE REASONS SOME CITIES LEFT. WE WERE PAYING 100% OF SALARIES AND NON-LABOR OPERATIONS. SO THE CITY OF DESOTO, MOVING INTO THIS CURRENT BUDGET YEAR 2025, ASSUMED THE SALARIES OF ALL OF, I WOULD SAY, OUR EMPLOYEES, THE CITY OF DESOTO EMPLOYEES, AND THE ONLY THING BEING PAID BY THE GRANT WAS OUR NON-LABOR OPERATION. SO OUR BUILDING COST, OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE COST OR UTILITIES COST. OUR PHONES COST AND ALL THOSE THINGS. AND SO NOW THAT'S BEING ASSUMED BY THE CITY. OKAY. AND SO AS FAR AS THE THE EMPLOYEES ARE CONCERNED, [02:15:02] HOW MANY HOW MANY CARE TEAM EMPLOYEES ARE THERE? THERE ARE SEVEN INCLUDED. AND THAT WILL CONTINUE. IS THAT WHAT THE THE THOUGHT IS, IS THAT THAT WILL CONTINUE AND THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE ACTUAL SCHOOL THAT YOU GUYS ARE RESIDING IN. IS THAT WHAT THAT IS FOR? THAT'S CORRECT. AND THAT'S MY VIEW OF THE BUDGET. I GOT THE BUDGET PACKET AT THE SAME TIME Y'ALL DID, AND I DID A DEEP DIVE AND OVERVIEW, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE CARE TEAM RIGHT NOW. SO ANYTHING ELSE? I WOULDN'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE, BUT SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE DIRECTED TOWARDS THE CITY MANAGER. OKAY. SO THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS WHEN WE SAID THE WORD THAT IT'S IS EXPANDING. I DON'T HEAR EXPANSION, I HEAR. STATUS QUO IS WHAT I SAW IN THE BUDGET IS NOT DOES NOT INCLUDE OUR EXPANSION PLANS. THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN SOLIDIFIED. THOSE ARE STILL IN THE WORKS. OKAY. ARE YOU BACK? THANK YOU. SERGEANT. I JUST I, I WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT, AND I WANT TO TELL YOU AND THE CITIZENS HOW I SAW IT IN ACTION. I WAS DRIVING TWO WEEKS AGO DOWN HAMPTON ROAD. A YOUNG MAN WAS WALKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, HEADED SOUTH. I WAS HEADED HERE TO TOWN CENTER. HE WAS WALKING, FACING INCOMING TRAFFIC. I PULLED MY CAR OVER. I STARTED TO STOP TRAFFIC. BY THAT TIME, AN OFFICER WAS THERE. THEN HE CROSSED OVER TO ONCOMING TRAFFIC THAT WAS HEADED NORTH. WE STOPPED TRAFFIC BOTH WAYS WITHIN TWO MINUTES. MINUTE'S CARE TEAM WAS THERE. IT ABSOLUTELY SAVES LIVES. AND I WANT TO SAY THAT BECAUSE AS WE TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET AND IRREGARDLESS OF WHAT THE OTHER SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES WILL DO FOR THEIR CITIZENS, I WANT DISODIUM TO KNOW THAT IT AT LEAST SAVED ONE MAN'S LIFE. THAT WAS ABOUT 33 YEARS OLD. THAT WAS I DON'T KNOW WHY HE WAS WALKING THAT WAY, BUT THE POLICE SHOWED UP AND AND BECAUSE WE STOPPED TRAFFIC, CAROTENE WAS RIGHT THERE ON MY I MEAN, I HAD I CALLED 911 WHEN I SAW HIM, BUT THANK YOU. AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT HERE TO TO TO HAVE COMMENTS ON ALL OF THAT, BUT I WANT MY COLLEAGUES AROUND THIS DAIS TO KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT A IT IS A AN ABSOLUTE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY. ANYTHING. AND IF WE DON'T WANT OUR CITIZENS TO GET SHOT OR KILLED, THIS SAVED ABSOLUTELY. THAT YOUNG MAN'S LIFE. UNEQUIVOCALLY. SO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU. IF I COULD REAL QUICKLY ADD TO THAT COUNCILMEMBER AND THE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF REGIONAL CARE TEAMS NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY. I JUST WANT TO SHARE A QUICK STAT WITH YOU THAT THERE HAVE BEEN 1011 CONTACTS THAT THE REGIONAL CARE TEAM HAS ASSISTED. THERE HAS BEEN 100 EMERGENCY DETENTIONS. 24 OF THOSE WERE JUVENILES. SO WE CANNOT SIT HERE AND ALLOW THE REGIONAL CARE TEAM NOT TO BE SUPPORTED IN THIS EFFORT. I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN GET THE MONEY THAT IS NEEDED, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH GRANT THAT WE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, HOW THEY CAN BE TRULY SUPPORTED. AND THIS IS NOT A REACTION, BUT WE BEING PROACTIVE IN THIS BECAUSE OF THE URGENCY, BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY IS DEPENDENT ON THIS. THANK YOU. YEAH, BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. WHAT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU. WE DON'T HAVE A GRANT RIGHT NOW. THE GRANT WILL BE COMPLETED BY OCTOBER. AND KUDOS TO SERGEANT SUMMERS AND AND BEFORE HIM, LIEUTENANT FRANKS, THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB ACTUALLY IN IN TAKING CARE OF THIS. BUT THE GRANT IS COMING TO AN END. WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. SO THIS IS IMPORTANT. THERE'S NO NEW GRANTS, AND THERE'S NO MORE TRI CITY BUDGET. WE ONLY HAVE THE DESOTO CARE TEAM MOVING FORWARD. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO IS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS THE, THE ACTUALLY THE ARC AS WELL AS THE CARE TEAM. THOSE ARE THE ONLY ITEMS THAT REMAIN TO BE NOT COMPLETED, IF YOU WILL, IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. WE ARE VERY FOCUSED ON THE CARE TEAM, BUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS ALSO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE AT THE INCIDENT. WE WANT TO HAVE THE FOLLOW UP RESPONSE, AND WE ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT IS THAT IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, POST RESPONSE, [02:20:02] WHICH IS HOMELESS SOLUTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE WANT A FULL WRAP AROUND. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MODELS OF OTHER CITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RIGHT SIZE THIS THIS OPPORTUNITY AND REALLY FOCUS IT ON THE SOCIAL AND THE MENTAL SERVICES THAT FOLKS NEED AND DESERVE. THERE WAS 230 CASES, SERGEANT, IN THE PAST THREE MONTHS THAT YOU GUYS DEALT WITH. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE 230 CASES HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, INTEGRATED AND THERE'S NO RECEIVER THAT IS COMING BACK. THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE RIGHT CARE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT THAT THEY'VE DONE. SERGEANT MENTIONED THE PROGRAM THAT EAST COUNTY THAT THAT MESQUITE IS LEADING. WE'RE TRYING TO LEARN FROM OTHER PEOPLE'S CHALLENGES TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE RIGHT SIZE THIS TEAM, BUT WE MAKE IT INCREDIBLY EFFECTIVE. AND SO WE'RE NOT GOING AWAY FROM FROM THAT. WE ACTUALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON THAT AND AND KIND OF REALLY REJUVENATE IT, IF YOU WILL, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS IT GETS US THE RESULT THAT DESOTO DESERVES. YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD WE HAD A THIRD PARTY EVALUATOR AND EVALUATOR SEVERAL TIMES, AND THEY'VE MADE IT CLEAR THAT OUR TEAM IS SERVING EXTREMELY WELL IN A I DON'T WANT TO RANK HIM, BUT IT'S THE BEST. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, LIEUTENANT. I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, SERGEANT. WE'RE ON TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION, THOUGH, BEFORE WE GO ON THIS PAGE RIGHT HERE. THE ONE WHERE IT SAYS THE NEW DIRECTIONS IS SKIP GRANT AND ALL THAT. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GET SOME DEFINITIONS FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THOSE ITEMS ARE? SURE. AND THEN WHERE THEIR STATUS IS. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE WILL UPDATE THAT. OKAY. MOVING INTO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, HERE ARE AN OVERVIEW OF THE TASKS THAT ARE MANAGED WITHIN OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. BUDGET CHANGES. WE DISCUSSED A PART TIME ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT THAT IS NOT AFFECTED IN THE GENERAL FUND THAT COMES OUT OF THE FIRE TRAINING FUND. FUND 2 TO 8, AS WELL AS THE ADDITION OF THE EMS TRAINING OFFICER POSITION, WHICH IS A SHARED COST WITH THE OTHER ENTITIES LISTED. MUNICIPAL COURT. HERE ARE THE SERVICES OFFERED BY OUR COURT. NO MAJOR CHANGES OTHER THAN THE ADDITION OF ONE FULL TIME FIRE MARSHAL. FISCAL YEAR 26. LIBRARY SERVICES. HERE ARE THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS OF AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY SERVICE OFFERED IN OUR LIBRARY. THE LIBRARY DID NOT SUBMIT ANY MAJOR CHANGES FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. I LISTED HERE ARE THE DEPARTMENT FUNCTIONS WITHIN OUR IT DEPARTMENT. ALL LISTED HERE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE A LOT OF AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITIES HERE. ALL OF THE THE LAND CONNECTIONS ALL OF OUR NETWORKS. IT'S THE BACKBONE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ALLOWS DATA SHARING BETWEEN THE CITY, THE EMPLOYEES DEPARTMENT FACILITIES AND PUBLIC AT LARGE. A LOT OF REVIEW THAT GOES INTO IT, A LOT OF ADMINISTRATION THAT GOES INTO IT. SO WE DO HAVE SOME BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS FOR THE IT DEPARTMENT EACH YEAR COMING UP. THE 365 SUBSCRIPTION FEES AND THE IMPLEMENTATION IMPLEMENTATION COST AS WELL AS INCREASES IN VARIOUS LINE ITEMS, INCLUDING COMPUTER SOFTWARE, WEBSITE MAINTENANCE AND TELEPHONE SERVICE. AND THE ONE REQUEST THAT WE DISCUSS OF IT MANAGER AT GRADE 115 TO ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF IT GRADE 117. HUMAN RESOURCES LIST. THERE ARE SERVICES OFFERED HERE AS WELL AS THE STRATEGIC ROLE THAT THEY PLAY WITHIN THE CITY, OF COURSE MANAGING OUR PEOPLE, MANAGING OUR MOST VALUABLE ASSET, [02:25:02] WHICH IS OUR RESOURCE, OUR HUMAN RESOURCES COMPENSATION AND CLASSIFICATIONS, BENEFITS ADMINISTRATION, EMPLOYEE WELLNESS PROGRAMS, RECRUITING AND RETENTION. H.R HAD A FEW LINE ITEMS THAT DID INCREASE FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. WITHIN THEIR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THEIR ANNUAL AWARDS, TRAINING AND TRAVEL, THE EMPLOYEE TRAINING PROGRAM, RECRUITING AND OUR CONTRACT WITH THE GOV. WORKFORCE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. MOVING INTO NON-DEPARTMENTAL. THESE ARE EXPENDITURES THAT ARE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH AN INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, SUCH AS PARTICIPATION IN JOINT VENTURES, LIABILITY INSURANCE AND TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. YOU HAVE A FULL LIST OF NON-DEPARTMENTAL SERVICES IN YOUR BUDGET BOOKS. HERE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE LISTED THERE. FINAL PAYOUT FOR RETIREES AND EMPLOYEES. OF COURSE, EMPLOYEES AT VARIOUS LEVELS OF THEIR THEIR TENURE HERE. AND THEN THEY ARE ENTITLED TO CERTAIN PAY OUT OF BENEFITS, SICK LEAVE, VACATION LEAVE, DEPENDING ON THEIR TENURE, PERFORMANCE, INCENTIVE PAYOUT TO EMPLOYEES. OUR LIABILITY INSURANCE IS COVERED THROUGH NON-DEPARTMENTAL AS WELL. THERE'S A TRANSFER THAT COMES OUT OF THAT AND GOES INTO THE INSURANCE LIABILITY FUND, OUR STAR TRANSIT PROGRAM, CITY ATTORNEY FEES, TOURISM, THE SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, AND OF COURSE, OUR PARTICIPANT EXPENSE WITH OUR JAIL AND OUR REGIONAL DISPATCH CENTER. OUR JAIL TOTAL BUDGET. WELL, THE PARTICIPANT SHARE IS INCREASED BY 38,000 FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. AND THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS THAT ALL OF THE CITIES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING INCREASED THAT MUCH. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THEY ALL EXPERIENCED AN INCREASE. CONTINUING WITH OUR COOPERATIVE EFFORTS. SOUTHWEST REGIONAL COMMUNICATIONS CENTER IS AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS PROVIDED THROUGH RCC. AND THEIR BUDGET CHANGES FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 INCLUDES THE ADDITION OF TWO FULL TIME EMERGENCY DISPATCHERS AND SOME OPERATIONAL INCREASES AS WELL. THAT ARE LISTED HERE. ON THOSE INCREASES. BECAUSE WE WE HAVE A NEW SAS, RIGHT? SO LIKE WITH THOSE INCREASES OR WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY EFFICIENCY FROM THE NEW SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE AT. I KNOW THAT LAST BUDGET WE UPGRADED EQUIPMENT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. I'M JUST CURIOUS. JUST ARE THERE ANY OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES THAT ARE COMING FROM THE MOST RECENT IMPROVEMENTS WITH TECHNOLOGY? SO WITH THE SAS IT'S A REGIONAL CAD. MS.. MS.. SYSTEM, WHICH IS OUR DISPATCH SOFTWARE, RECORDS MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND MOBILES FOR THE FIRE AND POLICE. AND THEN YOU HAVE JAIL MANAGEMENT. SO WE'RE BASICALLY MOVING UP TIERS IN FROM A MORE OF A SMALL BUSINESS MODEL COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM TO A ENTERPRISE GRADE, SO IT SHOULD ALLOW. EFFICIENCIES TO GREATLY INCREASE WHICH WILL BE WHICH WILL EVENTUALLY DECREASE COST. OR LIKE HOW WILL THE THE EFFICIENCIES BE SEEN FROM BUDGETARY. BECAUSE WHAT I AND THE REASON WHY I ASK IS BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THIS BUDGETARY FROM YEAR OVER YEAR. WE'RE INCREASING TECHNOLOGY AND NOW WE'RE INCREASING STAFFING. WHICH SPEAKS TO THERE WAS CLEARLY A DEFICIT NEED. AND SO YOU'RE INCREASING STAFFING TOO. SO WHERE DOES THE RETURN AND THE INVESTMENT HAPPEN WITH ALL THAT'S BEING ADDED? IT'S IN RESPONSE. AND OFFICER AND FIREMAN SAFETY. SO RESPONSE TIMES GET MORE EFFICIENT. [02:30:04] WE'RE ALIVE RIGHT NOW. IMAGINE A DISPATCHER HAS ROUGHLY EIGHT MONITORS IN FRONT OF THEM, AND EVERY POSITION REQUIRES PROBABLY AROUND 15 DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS TO BE OPEN AT THE SAME TIME, NOT INCLUDING YOUR 911 SYSTEM AND YOUR RADIO SYSTEM, WHICH ARE YOUR LIFELINES TO THE CALLING PARTY, AS WELL AS THE OFFICER OR FIREMAN IN THE FIELD. SO THE MORE EFFICIENT WE CAN MAKE THE SYSTEMS SO THEY CAN HANDLE SO IT CAN AUTOMATE MORE OF THE TASK OF THE DISPATCHER, THE MORE THEY CAN FOCUS ON THE CALLER AND THOSE THAT ARE IN THE FIELD, RIGHT. ALSO, COUNCILWOMAN CHISHOLM, THIS IS SPECIFIC TO DISPATCH ONLY. SO THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OTHER SIDE'S FEES WITH THE CITY. THIS IS SPECIFIC TO DISPATCH. OKAY. AND WITH THE TECHNOLOGY INCREASES HAVE BEEN SPECIFICALLY FOR DISPATCH OVER THE LAST YEAR OR SO. A FEW YEARS? YES. THIS IS A PART OF IT. OKAY. YES. AND SO YOU SAY A REDUCTION IN RESPONSE. SO WHAT IS IT? WHAT IS THE RISK? I KNOW I THINK FIRE IS GIVING US THEIR RESPONSE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE FROM YOU ALL FROM. IS THAT SECONDS OFF MINUTES OR SO FOR FIRE? FOR FIRE SPECIFICALLY, WE'LL MOVE TO AVL AUTOMATIC VEHICLE LOCATION. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T USE THAT RIGHT NOW. IT'S JUST WHOEVER WE KNOW IS THE CLOSEST TO THAT AREA. BUT HAVING OUR MAPPING WITH THIS NEW SYSTEM, WE HAD TO GET A NEW MAP AND UPGRADE OUR WHOLE MAPPING SYSTEM. AND SO THEREFORE WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE, WHERE THEY ARE WHILE THEY'RE DRIVING. AND SO THEY'RE PASSING YOUR HOUSE. YOU DIAL 911 INSTEAD OF THE PERSON. THE UNIT WE WOULD NORMALLY SEND, WE'RE GOING TO SEND THAT UNIT BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT THERE. AND SO IT MAKES MORE SENSE. THAT'S FASTER. RIGHT. AND DO YOU MIND CLARIFYING THAT THE ADDITION OF TWO FULL TIME POSITIONS THAT REPLACES FOUR PART TIME POSITIONS. CORRECT. CURRENTLY, WE'RE BUDGETED FOR FOUR PART TIME POSITIONS. HOWEVER, THERE ARE VERY HARD TO FILL THOSE PART TIME POSITIONS. WE NEED THEM TO BE ASSIGNED TO THE SHIP, NOT TO COME TO WORK WHEN THEY FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD COME TO WORK. AND SO WE'VE ASKED TO TRANSITION THOSE POSITIONS TO FULL TIME POSITIONS. SO THE COST IS OF THE TWO, FULL TIME POSITION IS ROUGHLY ABOUT $149,000. THE COST OF THE FOUR PART TIME POSITIONS IS ABOUT $100,000, 110, 110. SO THE DIFFERENCE IS REALLY $39,000 DIVIDED BY THE THREE CITIES THAT THAT PAY INTO THE SYSTEM. BUT IT HELPS WITH FORECASTING BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE TWO SOLID EMPLOYEES VERSUS TWO YOU. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. GOT IT. SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE ACTUAL CITIES WILL THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE IN WHAT THE OTHER CITIES PAY? YES. OH, OUTSTANDING IS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. SO YES. OUTSTANDING. THAT'S OUTSTANDING. SO WHAT IS THE RENTAL BUILDING THEN. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO IN CEDAR HILL YOU KNOW THE BIG WATER TOWER. NOT THE WATER TOWER. THE BIG RADIO TOWER IN CEDAR HILL. YOU CAN SEE IT AS YOU'RE DRIVING. WE RENTED SPACE. WE CURRENTLY RENT SPACE THERE FOR OUR RADIOS, FOR OUR OLD RADIO SYSTEM, CURRENT RADIO SYSTEM AS WELL. AND WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO PAY FOR THAT SPACE, EVEN THOUGH WE MOVE TRANSITION TO A NEWER SYSTEM WITH LESS NEED FOR SPACE, WE STILL HAVE TO CONTINUE FOR THE OLD SPACE UP UNTIL 2032. AND THEY CHARGE US. THEY INCREASE THEIR CHARGE 4% ANNUALLY. SO UNTIL 2032, WE WILL BE PAYING FOR THAT RENTAL SPACE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO IF WE LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF THE OTHER TOWER, MAYBE WE CAN SAVE THE COST. BUT THAT'S ALSO A BACKUP LOCATION IN CASE SOMETHING GOES WRONG IN DESOTO TO RIGHT THE CEDAR. WELL, NOT FOR THE RADIO TOWER. NO. OKAY. YEAH, BUT CAN THE IT CAN BE USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE, THOUGH. I MEAN, IT IS THAT SPACE. WE JUST DO NOT. WE DON'T NEED THAT MUCH SPACE WITH THE SPACE THAT WE ARE RENTING IN. THERE IS LIKE A THIRD LIKE IT'S IT'S GO AHEAD. SO WE BASICALLY RENT A FULL ROOM WHERE WE USED TO HAVE RACKS UPON RACKS OF RADIO GEAR. BUT NOW WE, WE DON'T HAVE HARDLY ANY OF THAT ANYMORE REPURPOSING IT THERE. WE HAVE NO NEED. BUT IF WE HAD THE NEED, WE WOULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT USING IT. BUT IT'S A VERY LARGE TOWER, A MAJOR SITE, AND IT WOULD BE FOR MAYBE SOMETHING WIRELESS POINT TO POINT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY IN A PROJECT RIGHT NOW OF IDENTIFYING A WAY TO UTILIZE POINT TO POINT WIRELESS SYSTEMS. SO MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, NOTHING. YEAH. THE ONLY REASON I WAS ASKING THAT QUESTION WAS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, JUST BASED ON THE TIME ITSELF, IT WAS ABOUT SEVEN MORE YEARS. [02:35:03] SO WITH A 4% INCREASE EVERY YEAR, THAT'S A 4% INCREASE ON SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN UTILIZING IT. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE GOING TO FIND A WAY TO UTILIZE THAT SPACE BECAUSE WE HAVE NO, NO OTHER CHOICE, RIGHT? CORRECT. IT'S AN OLD CONTRACT THAT WAS SIGNED MANY YEARS AGO, AND IT'S A BURDEN ON ALL OF US. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU. MISS. YOU CAN CONTINUE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT IS OUR REGIONAL JAIL. OF COURSE. IT PROVIDES SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR PRISONERS HOUSED AT THE DESOTO REGIONAL REGIONAL JAIL. AND, OF COURSE, WE'RE IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITIES LISTED HERE. SO WE HAVE LISTED HERE OUR REVENUE EXPECTED FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, AS WELL AS THE JAIL OPERATIONS JAIL STILL, OPERATION DID NOT INCREASE MUCH AT ALL. IT'S STILL 1.8 MILLION. AND YOU CAN SEE THE BEGINNING AND ENDING PROJECTED FUND BALANCES FOR THE JAIL OPERATION AS WELL LISTED HERE. NOT A LOT OF CHANGE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026. WE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY THE PARTICIPANTS SHARE PORTION THAT IN THE PORTION THAT WENT UP FOR EACH PARTNER CITY. AND GLENN HEIGHTS PAYS A SLIGHTLY LESS OF A PARTICIPANT SHARE THAN THE OTHER CITIES. THE OTHER OPERATIONAL INCREASES WERE MAINLY FOR COMPUTER SOFTWARE MAINTENANCE. AND JUST ANOTHER LOOK AT THE PARTICIPANT SHARE HERE. SO WE CAN SEE THAT THE LARGER PARTNER CITIES WERE BUDGETED FOR 380,000 FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, AND NOW WE'RE EXPECTING 118,000 FROM THE LARGER CITIES. FOR A TOTAL REVENUE OF 1.803 MILLION. HERE ARE THOSE CORRESPONDING EXPENDITURES, BROKEN OUT BY CATEGORY. SO WE HAVE OUR PERSONNEL LISTED AS WELL AS OUR SUPPLIES CATEGORY, AS WELL AS FOR SERVICES AND PROFESSIONAL FEES. AND AGAIN, JUST THE FUND BALANCE LISTED THERE. JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF THE REGIONAL JAIL NOW I DON'T WANT PEOPLE IN JAIL. THAT'S NOT WHY I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION. BUT THE CITY OF DESOTO, LANCASTER AND CITY HERE, OF COURSE, BECAUSE OF THEIR SIZE, IS IT STRICTLY THAT NUMBER, STRICTLY BECAUSE OF SIZE OR DO IS THE IS IT EQUAL AMOUNT OF CALLS OR AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF USAGE IF I USE THAT WORD HONESTLY. IT'S EQUAL AMOUNT OF PAYMENT. MEANING? MEANING EACH CITY CONTRIBUTES THE SAME. NO, NO, I GET THAT. I'M ASKING, IS THAT THEIR CONTRIBUTION BASED ON SIZE OR IS IT BASED ON USAGE? BECAUSE THEY'RE EQUAL IN SIZE, I'M JUST WONDERING. IT WOULD BE BASED ON THE OPERATION OF THE JAIL. NOT NOT BASED ON THE SIZE OF A CITY, BUT CHIEF CAN CLARIFY A LITTLE BETTER. OKAY. CAN YOU GIVE ME A QUESTION AGAIN? I'M SORRY. I WAS OUT IN THE HALL JUST THINKING IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT CONSIDERING DESOTO, LANCASTER KIND OF COMPARABLE IN SIZE, WHEREAS GLENN HEIGHTS IS LOWER. MUCH, MUCH LOWER IN COST. OKAY. AND I'M ASKING WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF COST, DO THEY DO THAT BECAUSE OF THEIR SIZE OF THEIR CITY? OR IS IT BECAUSE OF USAGE OF EACH CITY? SO ITS USAGE IS WHAT WE DID. WHEN GLENN HEIGHTS CAME ON. WE WE WENT TO THE OTHER TWO CITIES AT THE TIME AND WE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO GET WE'RE GOING TO BRING THEM ON, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THE THREE OF US WERE PAYING AT THE TIME. SO WE WENT AND SAW WHAT WE WERE, WHAT WE ALL WERE CONTRIBUTING TO, THREE OF US. AND THEN WE SAID WE LOOKED AT WHAT WE ALL BRING IN AS FAR AS PRISONERS AND WHAT THAT OPERATION WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND THEN WE SAID, OKAY, THEY BRING IN, I THINK IT'S A THIRD OF WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE WILL BRING IN, SO WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE THEM A THIRD. THE OTHER TWO CITIES, WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT AT THE TIME. AND SO WE GAVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO PAY ONE THIRD OF WHAT THE OTHER THREE CITIES WERE PAYING. THEN WE BROUGHT ON DUNCANVILLE. THEY'RE JUST AS ACTIVE AS THE OTHER THREE CITIES DESOTO, CEDAR HILL AND AND LANCASTER. AND SO WE TOLD THEM THEY WOULD BE A FULL PARTNER, IF YOU WILL. WE GAVE THEM A BREAK THE FIRST YEAR TO BRING THEM ON, AND THEN WE TOLD THEM THAT THEY WOULD BE THEY WOULD GO UP TO WHAT WE WERE PAYING. AND SO WE ALL PAY THE SAME THING. NOW THE FOUR CITIES AND GLEN HEIGHTS STILL GETS THAT REDUCTION BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS THEY BRING IN. BUT WE WATCH THAT EVERY WEEK. [02:40:01] WE GET A REPORT FROM THE JAIL COMMANDER. HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING BROUGHT IN BY EACH AGENCY. AND SO WE I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY STAY THE LOWEST AND THEY'RE A THIRD OR SMALLER AGENCY OR SMALLEST CITY. AND SO THEY BRING IN LESS. AND ONLY ONLY THE ONES THAT GO TO DALLAS COUNTY COME TO US BECAUSE WE TRANSPORT TO DALLAS COUNTY, ANYTHING IN ELLIS COUNTY, THEY HAVE TO EITHER COME BACK AND TRANSPORT THEM DOWN THERE, OR THE ELLIS COUNTY SHERIFF HAS TO COME UP AND PICK THEM UP. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK. I HOPE THAT HELPS. THANK YOU CHIEF. THANK YOU. YOU CAN CONTINUE. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE WE HAVE FINISHED A GENERAL FUND SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUND FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026. AND HERE YOU HAVE, OF COURSE, LISTED THE TOTAL REVENUE AND THE TOTAL OPERATING EXPENDITURES, ALONG WITH THE FUND BALANCE THAT WE HAVE COLLECTED OVER THE YEARS. THE BEGINNING AND ENDING FUND BALANCE PER FISCAL YEAR FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026, THE INCREASE IN OPERATING EXPENDITURES IS GOING TO BE WORKED ON AT NANCE FARM, MAINLY. WE HAD BUDGETED $3 MILLION TO SPEND ON CONTRACTED SERVICES OR CAPITAL OUTLAY RELATED TO NAN'S FARM IN FISCAL YEAR 25 THAT WE DID NOT UTILIZE. SO WE MOVED THAT OVER TO FISCAL YEAR 26. SO THAT IS A BIG PART OF THE 4.1 MILLION IN EXPENDITURES THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING SPENDING IN FISCAL YEAR 26, IN THE HOT FUND. THE OTHER INCREASES ARE JUST A SLIGHT INCREASE IN OUR REVENUE. AND THAT'S JUST THE REVENUE THAT WE BRING IN FROM OUR FROM THE LOCAL HOTELS. MAY I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION? MISS SUTTON, ON THE AS WE LOOK AT FORECASTING ACCURACY HERE, THE FY 25 HOTEL REVENUE DOES SHOW A DECLINE. WHAT'S DRIVING THE LOWER PROJECTION ON THAT? ARE WE SEEING DECREASED TRAVEL OR IS THIS A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE ON THE REVENUE OR THE EXPENSE OF THE REVENUE. YEAH. SO THE REVENUE. WE BUDGETED 1.4 MILLION AND YEAR TO DATE ACTUALS. WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO COLLECT FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. SOME OF OUR HOTELS ARE A LITTLE BIT SLOWER. WE'RE SENDING IN THEIR THEY'RE REQUIRED 7% TO THEY THAT THEY OWE TO THE CITY'S. BUT WE ARE WE HAVE RAMPED UP OUR EFFORTS FOR BILLING AND FOR FOLLOW UP, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR HOTELS, THEY KIND OF FALL BEHIND SOMETIMES ON THE PAYMENTS. BUT YOU KNOW, WE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM TO CATCH UP WITH FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. I KNOW WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF HOTELS THAT WE HAVE BEEN AFTER FOR TO GET OUR OUR DUE REVENUE FROM THEM. AND SO FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, WE DID NOT WANT TO DECREASE OUR EXPECTATION. OUR EXPECTATION IS STILL TO RECEIVE THAT. SO WE DID GO AHEAD AND BUDGET FOR 1.4 MILLION AGAIN IN FISCAL YEAR 26. THANK YOU, MISS SUTTON. I HAD NO QUESTIONS TILL YOU SAID SOMETHING. AND NOW I GOT A QUESTION. OH, YOU SAID THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF HOTELS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO GET YOUR MONEY FROM BECAUSE THEY OWE AND THEY HAVEN'T PAID. SO NOW, THE FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MY MIND IS WHAT HOW WHAT? WHAT DOES THAT COLLECTION EFFORT LOOK LIKE AND WHEN DOES IT PROGRESS? BECAUSE IF THAT'S A DEBT, WE HAVE RAMPED UP EFFORTS A LOT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUND IS IS IT? WE'VE GOTTEN USED TO IT NOW. RIGHT. BECAUSE WHEN IT, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED COLLECTING FOR THESE THINGS TYPE OF THING BACK IN 2020, 2021 WHEN CITIES COULD ACTUALLY COLLECT WE SINCE THEN WE HAVE RAMPED UP OUR COLLECTION EFFORTS. I HAVE ONE OF MY ACCOUNTANTS THAT SPECIFICALLY TALKS TO THE HOTELS PERSONALLY. SHE BUILDS THEM. WE DO MAKE SOMEWHAT OF COLLECTION CALLS AS WELL TO THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE BEEN CATCHING UP, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S UNFORTUNATELY, THAT TYPE OF THING IS IT'S SOMEWHAT STILL ON THE HONOR SYSTEM. OKAY. NOW WE. WE HAVE SOME HELP FROM THE CONTROLLER WITH WITH THAT TYPE OF THING. WE HAVE SOME HELP THERE. BUT AS FAR AS COLLECTION EFFORTS, WE HAVE TO DO THAT WITHIN OUR WITH OUR STAFF. OKAY. SO THEN WHERE DOES. [02:45:01] OKAY. OH, THAT'S. SO WHERE DOES IT HAPPEN? WHERE YOU CAN SHUT THE BUSINESS DOWN. LIKE, WHY DO THEY CONTINUE TO COLLECT FUNDING IF THEY OWE US MONEY? LIKE, AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE ROGUE, BUT I MEAN, HOW MANY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AS IT RELATES TO HOTELS THAT THAT OWE MONEY? BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT A 501 C3 TECHNICALLY, RIGHT. SO IF LIKE THE HONOR SYSTEM AND MAKING CONTINGENCY PAYMENT PLANS FOR BUSINESSES, THAT SEEMS A BIT STRETCHED FOR ME MENTALLY. SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE, I DON'T EXPECT YOUR ACCOUNTANT TO KNOW HOW TO COLLECT BE A COLLECTION AGENT. RIGHT. THAT'S NOT YOUR FORTE. I WOULD EXPECT AN ATTORNEY TO GO AFTER THOSE FUNDS AND LEAN AND MOVE ON FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. SO I WAS JUST. IF WE DON'T HAVE A PROCESS. IS THERE ONE COMING FOR THIS? THANK YOU. YES. WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSULT WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY, GET THEM INVOLVED WITH OUR COLLECTION EFFORTS. WE HAVE NOT LOOKED AT SPECIFIC CONSEQUENCES OR PUT ANYTHING INTO ACTION FOR ANY OF THE HOTELS WHO DID FALL BEHIND, BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE WE DO HAVE THE POWER TO DO. MISS SUTTON, I HAVE TO ADD THAT TO THAT SAME POINT. WOULD THAT NOT BE? I KNOW WE WORK WITH LYNN BARKER ON A NUMBER OF THINGS. WITH TAXES AND COLLECTION OF THOSE EFFORTS, WOULD THAT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THEIR WHEELHOUSE? SURE. WE CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF SERVICES THEY OFFER IN THAT AREA. DO THAT SAME POINT. THIS THIS CONCERNS ME FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS MONEY THAT THEY HAVE COLLECTED FROM THE GUEST. THIS IS NOT MONEY THAT IS COMING OUT OF THEIR POCKET. THEY'VE COLLECTED THESE TAXES AND IT SHOULD HAVE SIMPLY BE A PASS THROUGH. YOU COLLECT IT, YOU HOLD IT, YOU SEND IT TO THE STATE. YOU SEND IT TO THE CITY. I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW IF THE IF THE STATE IS GETTING THEIR PORTION. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I WANT TO GO BACK TO PARKS AND REC BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE PLACES WE WE, WE USE THE HOT FUNDS TO SUBSIDIZE, IF YOU WOULD, THESE RATES TO BRING IN. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A CALLBACK, YOU KNOW, WHERE I'M GOING THAT THAT WHOEVER'S OUT HERE OWING US MONEY, THAT WE DON'T DO WHATEVER WE DO WITH THAT HOTEL. ABSOLUTELY. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. MAYOR, WE DO NOT PAY OUT ANY HOTEL THAT IS PAST DUE IN PAYMENT. SO WE HAVE ABOUT THREE HOTELS CURRENTLY THAT ARE NOT UP TO DATE IN PAYMENT. THEY DO NOT RECEIVE FUNDING, NOR ARE THEY EVEN ALLOCATED ANY FUNDS. OKAY. IN LINE WITH WHERE I THINK MAYOR PRO TEM WAS GOING, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A LIST OF THOSE HOTEL AND THE SEVERITY OF OF THE DELINQUENCY BECAUSE THAT IS THERE ARE THIS IS MONEY THAT THIS IS NOT MONEY THAT'S COMING OUT OF THEIR POCKET. THIS IS MONEY THAT THEY'VE COLLECTED FROM THE GUEST AND JUST HAVE NOT REMIT REMITTED IT TO, TO THE CITY. I VERY MUCH LIKE IF A, IF AN ORGANIZATION WAS COLLECTING SALES TAX AND NOT DOING YOUR, YOUR MONTHLY SALES TAX REPORT TO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE IS IDENTICAL TO THAT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. IN ADDITION TO THAT AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT THERE WOULD ALSO BE LATE FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD GO ALONG WITH THAT AS WELL. RIGHT. WE DO NOT HAVE WE DO NOT HAVE A FEE ATTACHED TO LATE PAYMENT IN THE HOT FUND. SO SO COUNCIL MEMBER WILL WILL ACTUALLY BRING BACK A POLICY, OKAY, FOR YOU TO NOT ONLY INCLUDE THE DELINQUENCY FEE BUT ALSO THE ATTORNEY FEE. OKAY. GOOD DEAL. SO IT WOULD BE THE COLLECTION WHAT THE DELINQUENCY AND THE POSSIBILITY OF WE'LL WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE POSSIBILITY OF PLACING A FULL LIEN ON, ON ON THE HOTEL ITSELF. OUTSTANDING. AND THE THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU, MISS SUTTON, THE OPERATING EXPENSES. YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL THINGS THAT PUTS IT FROM 243 UP TO 4 MILLION. WHAT WERE THOSE AGAIN? THAT WOULD BE IN THE CATEGORY OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACTS AND CAPITAL OUTLAY RELATED TO NAN'S FARM RENOVATION. SO THERE'S ONE ACTUAL PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. YES. SO THAT'S THE FULL AMOUNT FOR JUST THAT ALONE? YES. SO IN YOUR BOOKLET, IT GIVES YOU THE MORE BREAKDOWN OF DETAIL, THE DETAIL PART. ABOUT THERE WAS ABOUT A 700 $600,000 INCREASE IN THE IN THE AREA OF SERVICE AND PROFESSIONAL FEES THAT'S RELATED TO NANCE FARM AND THEN 3 MILLION WORTH OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ARE YOU MISS SUTTON? YOU MENTIONED WHAT WAS IT, 2022? I THINK YOU SAID CITIES WERE ABLE TO START COLLECTING ON DELINQUENT PAYMENTS. [02:50:04] NOW, OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW WE'VE HAD HOTELS THAT HAVE BEEN DELINQUENT ON THEIR PAYMENTS BEFORE. SO WHAT WAS THE CASE BEFORE YOU ALL WERE ABLE TO START COLLECTING? HOW WERE WE COLLECTING ON LATE PAYMENTS BEFORE I. WELL, WHAT I MEANT WHEN I, WHEN I REFERENCED 20, 21, 22 TO TIME FRAME WAS WHEN HOTELS STARTED TO GET USED TO HAVING TO PAY A CITY PORTION BECAUSE ORIGINALLY THEY WERE ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR STATE PORTION. AND SO WHENEVER THAT WAS PASSED, I THINK IT WAS 2021, MAYBE 2020. THEY STARTED TO SAY, OKAY, CITIES, YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO COLLECT ON THIS NOW, WHICH IS WHAT WE STARTED TO DO AFTER OUR FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS. WE STARTED BEING MORE ROBUST IN OUR EFFORTS AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS OPTIONAL. YOU HAVE TO PAY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO DEFINITELY PAY YOUR PORTION TO THE CITY. SO WE STARTED ENCOURAGING. WHENEVER YOU ARE PAYING YOUR STATE PORTION, GO AHEAD AND SEND IN YOUR CITY PORTION AS WELL. MOST CITIES GOT ON BOARD WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE REVENUE INCREASE FROM YEAR TO YEAR. WE JUST HAVE, AS SIDNEY POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, A FEW THAT JUST WE STILL HAVE TO REALLY PURSUE MORE COLLECTION EFFORTS THAN NORMAL. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. ALL RIGHT. WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ITEM. SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS OUR DESOTO DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. AND HERE WE HAVE LISTED FOR YOU WHICH WE KNOW THE DDC IS ITS OWN FUND. AND WE HAVE LISTED THEIR BEGINNING YEAR FUND BALANCES, THEIR REVENUE, WHICH WE KNOW A MAJORITY OF THEIR REVENUE IS GOING TO COME FROM THE SALES TAX PORTION THAT GOES TO DDC. INTEREST REVENUE ON ANY OF THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE MAKE FOR DDC. AND YOU HAVE A LIST OF REVENUE IN THE INCREASE FROM YEAR OVER YEAR. SO PROPOSED 2026, WE HAVE 3 MILLION FROM OUR GENERAL REVENUE SOURCES THERE. AND EXPENDITURES ARE LISTED AS WELL BY CATEGORY AS IT RELATES TO PERSONNEL, SUPPLIES, SERVICES AND PROFESSIONAL FEES. CAPITAL OUTLAY AND TRANSFER TO OTHER FUNDS. SO DDC HAS A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE AND IT HAS GROWN FROM YEAR TO YEAR. WE HAVE THE THE VARIOUS AMOUNTS LISTED THERE. I'M SORRY. REAL QUICK. THE CAPITAL OUTLAY. CAN YOU SHARE WHAT THAT IS? THE PROPOSED THE 2026 PROPOSED CAPITAL OUTLAY. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THAT ONE. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE CAPITAL OUTLAY YOU SEE, FOR BOTH 26 AND THEN 27 IS THE EXPENDITURES FOR THE COMMUNITY MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH. OKAY. OKAY. I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU. MATT, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR. SURE. ANY HIGHLIGHTS OR. YEAH. I MEAN, OUR OPERATIONAL DETAILS. AND REALLY, OUR WORK PLAN, IF YOU WILL. REMAINS VERY MUCH FIXED FROM YEAR TO YEAR, WITH FEW CHANGES IN EMPHASIS. RECRUITMENT, RETENTION. BOTH OF THOSE LOOK VERY MUCH SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST. WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE THAT OUTREACH, ESPECIALLY AROUND SITE SELECTORS AND BROKER RELATIONSHIPS AS WE LOOK AT DEVELOPING THESE VARIOUS NODES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE ALSO CHANGED OUR LITTLE A LITTLE OUR RECRUITMENT IN TERMS OF VERY FOCUSED ON OUR INDUSTRY SECTOR MARKETING. LAST YEAR WE WORKED CLOSELY TO DEVELOP THOSE INDUSTRY SECTORS, THOSE VERTICALS. AND SO WE'VE KIND OF FINE PUT A FINE POINT, IF YOU WILL, ON OUR MARKETING EFFORTS, OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS, THEIR RETENTION. THE CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT, OUR CRM SYSTEM AND OUR INDUSTRY VISITS CONTINUES TO GROW WITH BOTH OUR MAJOR EMPLOYERS AS WELL AS OUR SMALLER, SMALLER BUSINESSES AS WELL. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, THE GROWING THE SMALL BUSINESS RESOURCES IS SUPER IMPORTANT TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY, MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE RESOURCES, WHETHER THEY'RE AT THE IDEATION PHASE OR THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE OR THE THE SCALING PHASE. THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS. AND SO WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR ALL OF THOSE RETAIL RECRUITMENT. YOU KNOW WE FOCUS ON THE PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT. [02:55:03] WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT BUSINESSES IF WE DEVELOP THIS INTEREST FROM BUSINESSES, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLACE FOR THEM TO GO. AND THEN ALSO THAT IT'S ALSO ABOUT CHANGING THE PERCEPTION. AND WHAT, WHAT WHAT OTHERS BELIEVE AND THINK ABOUT DESOTO VERSUS WHAT'S ACTUALLY HERE. AND HOW CAN WE CHANGE THAT. AND THAT'S WHY WE INCREASE ENGAGEMENT. FINALLY, THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE VERY MUCH SO INCREASED OUR INVOLVEMENT WITH INDUSTRY PARTNERS, BRINGING THEM TO THE TABLE MORE CLOSELY. WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO IDENTIFY TARGETS FOR THEM AND THEN BRING THOSE EMPLOYERS TO THE TABLE, WHETHER IT'S AT A CAREER DAY, WHETHER IT'S AN INTERNSHIP. WE'VE DONE SEVERAL THINGS THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY VERY AWARE OF THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THE ESPORTS LAB THAT WE STOOD UP AND WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT. LAST YEAR, WE STOOD UP THE BIOPHARMA LAB UTILIZING A SURPLUS CHEMISTRY LAB, IF YOU WILL. WE TOOK CARE OF PURCHASING THE EQUIPMENT AND STANDING IT UP IN THAT CHEMISTRY LAB, AND THEN WORKING WITH DALLAS COLLEGE TO PROVIDE THE INSTRUCTIONAL EXPERTISE TO TO BEGIN TRAINING HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO DIDN'T HAVE A PATH FORWARD TO BE ABLE TO GATHER THOSE SKILLS THAT MAKE THEM BIO LAB TECHNICIANS WITH GOOD PAYING JOBS. AND SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT CONTINUING THAT IN THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH SCHOOL DISTRICT AND DALLAS COLLEGE HIGHLIGHTING OUR MAJOR CHANGES IN OUR BUDGET. I WOULDN'T SAY THERE ARE REALLY ANY MAJOR CHANGES. REVENUES ARE PROJECTED TO REMAIN FLAT. REMEMBER, WE'RE JUST A PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL SALES SALES TAX. SO IF WE DON'T PROJECT OUR SALES TAX GOING UP, THEN OUR REVENUES DON'T CHANGE EITHER. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DECREASED INTEREST JUST BECAUSE THE INTEREST RATES ARE FALLING OVER WHAT THEY WERE TWO YEARS AGO. AND LAST YEAR WE IMPLEMENTED TWO YEARS AGO A LATERAL INVESTMENT PROGRAM SO THAT WE COULD STABILIZE THAT REVENUE LINE ITEM SOME. IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT IT CERTAINLY DOES HELP TO SORT OF EVEN IT OUT. OUR ADVERTISING REMAINS A FIXED PERCENTAGE. IT'S ALLOWED BY STATE STATUTE AT 10% OF OUR TOTAL REVENUE. SO EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBER MOVES UP AND DOWN, IT'S IT'S NOTHING MORE THAN AN INDICATION OF WHAT THE REVENUE NUMBER DID. OUR OPERATIONS HAD A SLIGHT DECREASE THIS YEAR, ABOUT $50,000. OUR ENDING FUND BALANCE HAS REMAINED VERY MUCH UNCHANGED OVER TIME. IN FACT, IT'S ACTUALLY GROWN. BUT TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILWOMAN, YOU SEE TWO SIGNIFICANT DECREASES RELATED TO THE COMMUNITY MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH PURCHASE. THE OTHER PIECE THAT IN TERMS OF A CHANGE, IS THE CITY MANAGER HAS ASKED US TO PUT TOGETHER SEVERAL INCENTIVES THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE IN THE PAST, SPECIFICALLY AROUND RESTAURANTS AND ATTRACTING RESTAURANTS AND AROUND RETAIL GROWTH, SMALL BUSINESS GROWTH AND RETENTION. THOSE WILL END UP BEING CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENTS THAT ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT'S SUPPORTED THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION'S FUNDS, BUT YOU'LL START TO SEE US BRING MORE AND MORE OF THOSE BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND THEN BEFORE YOU AS WELL, LOOKING AT WAYS TO EMPLOY MAYBE JUST SOME NEW IDEAS AND TRY SOME NEW THINGS TO SEE IF WE CAN INCREASE THE OVERALL IMPACT. I. THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU INDEED. ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE NO LIGHTS, MR. CARTER. THANK YOU. MEANS YOU DID A GOOD JOB. OH, WE DO HAVE ONE. SPOKE TOO SOON. BUT I EXPECT MORE FROM YOU IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS. THANK YOU. HEARD. THANK YOU. MISS SUTTON, DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR SLIDES? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. WE MADE GREAT TIME. WE GOT TWO MINUTES TO SPARE. SO AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. CAN WE GET SOME INSTRUCTIONS ON TOMORROW? JUST TO REITERATE THE TIME WE NEED TO BE HERE AS WELL AS THE AGENDA FOR TOMORROW, PLEASE. MADAM CITY SECRETARY. YES, MA'AM. TOMORROW WE'LL BEGIN WITH AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 8:30 A.M.. BREAKFAST WILL BE SERVED AT 8:00, SO I WILL SEE YOU ALL THEN. HAVE A GREAT EVENING. I'M SORRY. BEFORE WE DO THAT, YOU SAID THAT CONCLUDES THE SLIDES, BUT I STILL HAVE SOME SLIDES. ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT THERE? PROBABLY. THEY'LL CONTINUE IN THE MORNING. OH, THESE WERE OKAY. OKAY, THERE WE GO. OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. THAT SAID COUNCIL, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER HUGHES AND SECOND, BY MAYOR PRO TEM CHISHOLM TO ADJOURN COUNCIL. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 759 COUNCIL. WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT, WE GOT ACTION. ALL RIGHT. IT IS 952, AND WE HAVE CONVENED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. [3. Call Special Meeting to Order (immediately following executive session) Invocation Continued discussion of any items A-D from Thursday, July 24th. a. Discussion of Public Utilities b. Discussion of Special Revenue Fund c. Discussion of All Other Funds, Vehicle & Equipment Replacement Funds, and Facility Maintenance Funds d. Discussion of Debt Service Fund e. Discussion of Sanitation Fund f. Discussion of Drainage Fund g. Discussion of Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) h. Presentation on the Community Engagement Officer Program] THERE WAS NO ACTION AS A RESULT. SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL CALL OUR CONTINUED SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER AT 9:52 A.M.. I'M GOING TO ASK OUR CITY SECRETARY IF SHE WOULD GIVE US A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR [03:00:03] RACHEL PROCTOR HERE, MAYOR PRO TEM CRYSTAL CHISHOLM HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. PARKER. COUNCIL MEMBER KEN WATERS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER ANDRE BIRD HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER DEBORAH NORTH. HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER LETICIA HUGHES. THANK YOU. NOW, COUNCIL MEMBER, DON'T START ACTING BRAND NEW TONIGHT. YOU GOT YOU SOME BACK UP ON THE DAIS WITH COUNCILMAN WATERS. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, MISTER. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. OUR NEXT SESSION IS PUBLIC UTILITIES. AND SINCE WE JUST COMPLETED OUR UTILITY RATE STUDY, I WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW OUR PUBLIC UTILITIES DIRECTOR TO COME FORWARD AND INTRODUCE THE CONSULTANT WHO COMPLETED THAT STUDY FOR US. SO, BRANDON. THANK YOU, MISS SUTTON, AND GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS MORNING. THIS IS BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING IS A THE RESULTS OF OUR 2025 RATE ANALYSIS FOR WATER, SEWER AND SANITATION. THIS WILL ALSO SERVE AS A CONTINUATION TO THE CONVERSATION WE HAD BACK AT THE WINTER RETREAT. BEFORE I YIELD THE PODIUM TO OUR CONSULTANTS, I JUST WANT TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOME CONSENSUS TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TWO GREAT MODELS. BOTH OF THEM INCLUDE A 9% INCREASE. ONE OF THEM WILL BE A STATUS QUO MODEL WITH OUR CURRENT CUSTOMER CLASSES. THE OTHER ONE WILL BE EXPANDING OUR CUSTOMER CLASSES INTERIOR. SO THAT'S THE BIG DECISION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ON THIS MORNING. SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR GREAT STUDY CONSULTANTS WITH US, MR. ANGIE FLORES AND MR. CHRISTOPHER WILLIAMS. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE. WE HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION TO MAKE ON OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE COST OF SERVICE STUDY AND BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT AT THE WORKSHOP. SO JUST REAL QUICK ON OUR AGENDA. FIRST, WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH OUR RECAP OF OF WHAT WE PRESENTED AT THE WORKSHOP. WITH SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT RECAP BASED ON THE ANALYSIS WE COMPLETED. AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY, WHICH INCLUDE THE FIVE YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN, AS WELL AS MAKING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON SOME RATE STRUCTURE OPTIONS. AND THEN FINALLY, WE'LL PRESENT THE BILL COMPARISONS TO YOUR PEER CITIES AND THEN TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS OF INFORMATION. JUST REALLY QUICKLY DID WE HAVE THIS DOCUMENTATION THAT THAT'S BEING PRESENTED? IS THIS PRESENTED ANYWHERE? THIS IS NOT IN HERE. NO, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT PRESENTATION WERE ACTUALLY PROVIDED TO YOU, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE YOU COPIES AS WELL. OKAY. AND SO FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE THE PUBLIC BEING ABLE TO FOLLOW ALONG. THOSE WHO ARE NOT HERE IS THAT ONLINE AS WELL? IT WILL BE. IT WILL BE POSTED ONLINE AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. POINT INFORMATION. MAYOR, CAN YOU CLARIFY? JUST FOR RULES OF ENGAGEMENT TODAY, ARE WE JUST ANSWERING STILL THROUGHOUT THE. OKAY. OKAY. SO I'LL START WITH A RECAP OF THE WORKSHOP THAT WE HAD BACK IN THE WINTER TIME. DURING THAT WORKSHOP, WE MADE THREE RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO CONSIDER AS WE WERE DOING THIS STUDY. THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION WAS TO CREATE TWO ADDITIONAL CUSTOMER CLASSES BASED ON THE CUSTOMER CHARACTERISTICS. AND SO CURRENTLY YOU HAVE TWO CUSTOMER CLASSES. IT'S ONLY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. WHEN WE HAD THE WORKSHOP, WE WERE CONSIDERING ADDING TWO ADDITIONAL CLASSES. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S STILL OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO HAVE A RESIDENTIAL CLASS, A COMMERCIAL CLASS, IRRIGATION, AND THEN MUNICIPAL FACILITIES. THE MUNICIPAL FACILITIES WOULD INCLUDE YOUR MUNICIPALLY OWNED FACILITIES AS WELL AS IRRIGATION METERS. AND SO WE'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION, AND YOU'LL SEE THE DETAILS OF THAT IN THE FUTURE, IN SOME FUTURE SLIDES. THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION WAS TO CONSIDER A TIERED AND UNIFORM RATES FOR EACH CUSTOMER CLASS. CURRENTLY AS WE MENTIONED, YOU DO HAVE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL [03:05:01] CLASSES, BUT THE RATE STRUCTURE THEY WERE PAYING UNDER WAS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME. YOUR RESIDENTIAL CLASS WAS GETTING A THOUSAND GALLONS FREE IN THE FIRST YEAR. THE REST OF YOUR CLASSES WERE WERE PAYING THROUGH A THREE TIER STRUCTURE, WITH THE FIRST TIER BEING 1 TO 15,000 GALLONS, THE SECOND TIER BEING 15 TO 30. AND THEN THE THIRD TIER BEING 30 TO 30,000 AND ABOVE. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE MOVE, THAT WE CHANGE HOW THE RATE STRUCTURE FITS FOR EACH EACH CLASS KIND OF BASED ON INDUSTRY STANDARDS. RESIDENTIAL AND IRRIGATION WILL HAVE TIERS. THIS WAY WE CAN ENCOURAGE CONSERVATION FROM THOSE TWO CLASSES. FOR COMMERCIAL. AND THE MUNICIPAL FACILITIES WILL HAVE A UNIFORM RATE FOR THE USAGE PORTION OF THE BILL. AGAIN, THIS IS IN LINE WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS. THE UNIFORM RATE FOR COMMERCIAL IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES TYPICALLY USE WATER AS PART OF THEIR BUSINESS AND IT'S NOT REALLY BASED ON OUTDOOR WATER USAGE OR AND ISN'T GOING TO REALLY BE INFLUENCED BY THOSE TIERS. THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO MODIFY THEIR USAGE BASED ON THEIR BUSINESS STRUCTURE AND WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD TO PAY AS PART OF THEIR BUSINESS. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE HAVE A UNIFORM RATE. SO YOU'LL SEE IN OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT UNIFORM RATE FOR THAT FOR THOSE TWO CLASSES. OUR THIRD RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ADD THE MUNICIPAL FACILITIES RATE. THIS RATE IS BEING CALCULATED BASED ON USING THE DALLAS WATER CHARGE AS OUR BASIS. THIS IS THE COST OF THE WATER THAT YOU PURCHASE FROM DALLAS, WITH AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE COST THAT DESOTO INCURS FOR THAT SERVICE. TO GET TO A CALCULATED RATE OF $2.88. SO THAT'S THE THIRD RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'RE MAKING FOR THE RATE STRUCTURES. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CHRISTOPHER TO GO THROUGH THE FINANCIAL PLAN AS WELL AS THE RECOMMENDED RATE OPTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, ANGIE. I'M LOOKING HERE AT THE FIVE YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN A POSITION TO COVER THE PUBLIC UTILITIES FUND, WHICH WILL BE WATER AND WASTEWATER, AND WILL ALSO GO OVER THE SANITATION FUND AS WELL. SO LOOKING HERE AT PUBLIC UTILITIES, AS FAR AS THE FINANCIAL PLAN ASSUMPTIONS, THERE ARE SEVERAL ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE YOU ALL THROUGH. SO AS FAR AS MAJOR COST DRIVERS, WE'RE CALLING OUT THAT SEWER TREATMENT. WE'RE FACTORING A 9% INCREASE OR $771,000 FOR PURCHASED WATER. IT COMES TO ABOUT $250,000 AS FAR AS THE INCREASE FOR FY 2026. BEING THAT STAFF DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF FORECASTING FUTURE YEAR COSTS IN THE PRIOR YEAR. AS FAR AS DEBT 766,000 TO OUR OPERATIONAL LOGIC, DEBT ISSUANCES FROM FY 25 THROUGH 26. SO WHEN I SAY OPERATIONAL LIES, IT'S BASICALLY SAYING THAT, HEY, THAT DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT IS ACTUALLY SHOWING UP IN YOUR BUDGET NOW FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. SO LOOKING AT RESERVE TARGETS, AS YOU LOOK AT YOUR RESERVE TARGETS, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT METRICS THAT YOU'LL EVER LOOK AT IN RELATION TO FINANCES. YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE HITTING YOUR RESERVE TARGETS. SO YOUR RESERVE TARGET FOR THE PUBLIC UTILITIES FUND IS A 20% MINIMUM RESERVE TARGET. THE THE MIDPOINT WOULD BE 30%. AND IF YOU'RE KNOCKING IT OUT OF THE PARK, 35% IS WOULD BE THE MAX. SO WHAT WE'RE SHOWING TODAY WILL ACTUALLY SHOW YOU THE RESULTS OF BEING ABLE TO HIT THAT 35% RESERVE TARGET WITH THE RATES THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING. THE LAST ITEM HERE FOR THE PUBLIC UTILITIES FUND FOR THE FIVE YEAR OUTLOOK, LOOKING AT THE COST DRIVERS, WE DID FACTOR FOR THE OUT YEARS FOR SEWER TREATMENT, A 20% AVERAGE INCREASE FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. WHENEVER WE RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM TRA, WE BASICALLY AVERAGED OUT WHAT THE INCREASES ARE FORECASTED AT OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, AND IT AVERAGES OUT TO 20% WITH PURCHASE WATER. WE'RE FACTORING 9% INSIDE OF THE FORECAST FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. WE HAVE IT AT 54.4 MILLION BETWEEN 26 AND 30. AND FOR THE PROPOSED DEBT ISSUANCE, WE HAVE HAVE IT FORECASTED AT A TOTAL OF [03:10:05] 42.6. THAT'S HOW MUCH OF THE CIP WILL ACTUALLY BE. THAT WILL BE BONDED AND YOU WILL MAKE PAYMENTS ON ON IT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FINANCIAL ASSUMPTIONS HERE'S A QUICK CHART TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS ARE. AFTER YOU FACTOR IN ALL OF THE EXPENSES WITHOUT ANY RATE INCREASES, YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH EXCEEDING YOUR REVENUE SIGNIFICANTLY. SOMETHING TO THE TUNE OF YOU WILL HAVE TO SPEND AN ADDITIONAL $40 MILLION FROM FUND BALANCES. WHAT THE ASSUMPTION IS IF YOU WERE NOT TO INCREASE RATES AT ALL. SO WITH A 9% RATE INCREASE ANNUALLY AND JUST FOCUSING ON THIS YEAR SINCE THE OUT YEARS IS A FORECAST, THIS BASICALLY PUTS YOU IN A POSITION TO BE COMPLIANT WITH YOUR 35% MAX RESERVE TARGET. ALSO, FUND BALANCE WOULD ACTUALLY INCREASE BY 1.85 MILLION IN 2026, BUT OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS, YOUR FUND BALANCE WILL INCREASE 6.6 MILLION. MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE STAYING STEADY WITH YOUR 35% RESERVE TARGET. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL COVER THE FINANCIAL PLAN FOR SANITATION BEFORE WE START GETTING INTO THE TWO RATE OPTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. SO WITH SANITATION, IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. OVERALL, THERE IS A 6% INCREASE TO THE TOTAL EXPENSES YEAR TO YEAR. AS FAR AS CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, WE HAVE NOTED THAT THAT SANITATION CONTRACT DOES HAVE AN ESCALATION OF 3.5% ANNUALLY, FOLLOWED BY LOOKING AT THE CASH FUNDED CAPITAL YOU ALL BUDGET TO. NOT ONLY DO YOU ALL HAVE YOU ALL BUDGETED THIS YEAR TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL STREET SWEEPER, YOU ALL ACTUALLY BUDGET TO REPLACE A STREET SWEEPER EVERY TWO YEARS, SO THAT'S REFLECTED INSIDE THE COST. AS FAR AS ADDING AN ADDITIONAL STREET SWEEPER, WE HAVE NOTED THE STAFFING NEEDS TO OPERATE THAT STREET SWEEPER. SO WE HAVE A SECOND STREET SWEEPER OPERATOR AND A COORDINATOR POSITION BUDGETED WITHIN THE 6% OVERALL INCREASE. AS FAR AS RESERVE TARGETS, THE RESERVE TARGETS FOR THE SANITATION FUND IS LOWER THAN IT IS FOR THE PUBLIC UTILITIES FUND, SO YOU HAVE A MINIMUM RESERVE TARGET OF 10%. THE MIDPOINT WOULD BE 15% AND THE MAX IS 20%. SO AS YOU LOOK HERE, YOU CAN SEE WITHOUT ANY INCREASE YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BRING IN ENOUGH REVENUE TO COVER YOUR EXPENSES. AND YOU WILL ACTUALLY USE 378,000 IN FUND BALANCE OR 1.87 OVER FIVE YEARS, HOWEVER, WITH A 9% INCREASE FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS, AND WE'RE FORECASTING A 5% FOR THE THREE OUT YEARS, YOU CAN SEE THAT REVENUES ARE TRENDING ABOVE WHAT THOSE EXPENSES ARE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, LET'S GET INTO THE RATE STRUCTURE OPTIONS. AS YOU LOOK AT THESE RATE STRUCTURE OPTIONS BRANDON TEED IT UP TO SAY THAT, HEY, WE HAVE THE STATUS QUO WHERE YOU CAN ADD A 9% INCREASE TO IT, OR YOU CAN DO COST OF SERVICE WHERE EVERYONE PAYS THEIR FAIR SHARE BASED UPON THE CUSTOMER CLASS. AND YOU JUST ADD 9% TO THAT. SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT METHODOLOGIES THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT HERE ON THE STATUS QUO. OPTION ONE STATUS QUO. NO CHANGE TO THE RATE STRUCTURE OR CUSTOMER CLASSES PLUS 9% FOR WATER. YOU WILL HAVE YOUR FIXED RATE. SO YOUR FIXED RATE IS YOUR METER CHARGE PLUS A 9% INCREASE. THE VOLUMETRIC RATE WHICH EVERY CUSTOMER CLASS USES THE SAME VOLUMETRIC RATE. CURRENTLY, YOU WOULD JUST TAKE THAT AND ADD 9% TO IT AND THAT WOULD BE YOUR RATE IN OPTION ONE. THE SAME WOULD GO FOR SEWER. TAKE THE CURRENT RATE AT 9% OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO LOOKING AT OPTION TWO HERE, OPTION TWO IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY RECOMMEND. AND I KNOW THAT WHENEVER WE PRESENT IT TO YOU ALL BACK IN MARCH, WE USE AN EXAMPLE OF IF YOU GO TO DINNER AND IF YOU ORDER A SALAD, A STEAK, A SALMON, EVERYONE ORDERS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. EVERYONE SHOULD PAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T PAY THE SAME PRICE FOR A FLUCTUATION IN MEALS. ALRIGHT, WELL LOOKING HERE, THE COST OF SERVICE IS BASICALLY FACTORING WHAT EACH CUSTOMER CLASS IS ACTUALLY PAYING FOR. OKAY, SO WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO, IF WE GO LINE BY LINE UNDER THE FIXED RATE, THAT WOULD BE THE STATUS QUO RATE PLUS 9%. AS YOU GET INSIDE OF THE VOLUMETRIC RATES. RIGHT NOW YOU ALL HAVE A RESIDENTIAL AND A COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER CLASS. THIS WOULD ALLOW YOU ALL TO HAVE A RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, IRRIGATION AND ALSO A MUNICIPAL RATE. OKAY, SO YOU WILL ADD TWO ADDITIONAL CUSTOMER CLASSES TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW [03:15:02] EACH CUSTOMER CLASS IS USING WATER. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID THE THESE CUSTOMER CLASSES WITH RESIDENTIAL AND IRRIGATION, THEY BOTH WOULD HAVE A TIERED STRUCTURE, WHEREAS COMMERCIAL AND MUNICIPAL FACILITIES, THEY WOULD JUST PAY A UNIFORM RATE. IT WOULD BE THE SAME RATE PER 1000 GALLONS OF WATER. WITH SEWER, YOU WILL HAVE THE STATUS QUO FOR THE FIXED RATE PLUS THE INCREASE. AND WITH VOLUMETRIC, YOU WILL HAVE A UNIFORM RATE BASED ON COST OF SERVICE. PRETTY SIMPLE. SO IF YOU LOOK HERE, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? AND CAN YOU SHOW ME AN EXAMPLE. YES WE CAN. SO LOOKING HERE FOR RESIDENTIAL THE CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE PLUS 9% THE METER SIZE. THE METER CHARGE FOR A THREE QUARTER INCH WILL BE $12.64. AS YOU LOOK AT THE TIERS CURRENTLY 0 TO 1, YOU ALL CHARGE ZERO. TIER 1403. TIER TWO 499. TIER THREE 596. OKAY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING. WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU KEEP THE SAME CADENCE WITH THE METER CHARGE. BUT YOU ACTUALLY SHOULD BE CHARGING FOR EVERY DROP OF WATER, WHICH IS INDUSTRY STANDARD. SO THAT TIER ONE ON THE RIGHT THAT IS BASED ON 0 TO 5, WHICH IS YOUR ESSENTIAL USE. IT'S BASICALLY YOUR AVERAGE WINTER CONSUMPTION DURING DECEMBER, JANUARY. THOSE WINTER MONTHS, WE LOOKED AT A FOUR MONTH PERIOD TO SEE HOW MUCH WATER. OR IS THE RESIDENTIAL CLASS USING ON AVERAGE ON AVERAGE IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 5500 GALLONS. SO WE SET THIS FIRST TIER AT 5000 GALLONS. AFTER THE FIRST TIER, WE TOOK IT UP ANOTHER 5000 GALLONS TO CHARGE $5.83. ANOTHER 5000 GALLONS FOR TIER THREE FOR 728, AND ANYTHING ABOVE 15,000 GALLONS, $8.74 PER 1000 GALLONS. SO THE THINGS THAT I'LL NOTE HERE, THE FIRST BULLET POINT HERE. THE CITY WOULD ADMINISTER A CHARGE FOR EVERY DROP OF WATER. OKAY. NUMBER TWO, TIER ONE IS CLOSELY RELATED TO THE AVERAGE WINTER CONSUMPTION, WHICH I'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED HOW WE LOOKED AT THAT INFORMATION. AND LASTLY, OVERALL, THE TIER STRUCTURE FACTORS HOW RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS PEAK ON THE SYSTEM. ASCEND SENDS APPROPRIATE PRICING SIGNALS. SEE, WHENEVER YOU GO INSIDE OF AN OFFICE BUILDING, YOU USUALLY HAVE CONSERVATION MEASURES. YOU GO TO WASH YOUR HANDS AND THE WATER CUTS OFF DEPENDING ON WHAT SIDE OF THE HAND YOU'RE SHOWING, RIGHT? WELL, WHENEVER YOU'RE AT HOME, I KNOW I TEND TO TURN MY WATER ON AND MY DAUGHTERS WERE SCREAMING AT ME AND SAY, HEY PAPA, YOU NEED TO TURN THE WATER OFF TO CONSERVE WATER BECAUSE THOSE CONSERVATION MEASURES ARE ALREADY SET IN PLACE IN COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS VERSUS RESIDENTIAL. THEY PEAK DIFFERENTLY, SO YOU TEND TO SEE THAT RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER CLASS AS WELL AS IRRIGATION TO WATER YOUR LAWN. IT'LL PEAK AND YOU HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT IN THE PRICING AND THE SIGNALS THAT YOU SEND. ALRIGHT. SO LOOKING HERE AT RESIDENTIAL ON THE SEWER SIDE THE BASE CHARGE CURRENTLY IS $15.29. IT'S ALSO $15.29 PER 1000 GALLONS OF USAGE. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING A DECREASE BASED UPON COST OF SERVICE. SO THE BASE CHARGE WILL NOW BE $15.29 OR $9.48 PER 1000 GALLONS. OKAY, SO A COUPLE NOTES TO NOTE HERE. THE COST OF SERVICE DECREASES FOR SEWER BASED ON COST SHIFTING PROPORTIONALLY TO THE WATER UTILITY. OKAY. THE SECOND ITEM HERE, THE FLOW CHARGE DECREASES SIGNIFICANTLY SIGNIFICANTLY. HOWEVER, IT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE IN FUTURE YEARS. AND AS WE LOOK AT AS WE ROUND OUT THIS RESIDENTIAL EXAMPLE, THIS IS PROBABLY THE SLIDE THAT MATTERS THE MOST TO YOU ALL WITH ALL THE WORDS THAT I'M SAYING. WHAT DOES A SIMPLE BILL LOOK LIKE? SO FOR A RESIDENTIAL WATER AND SEWER, THE SAMPLE BILL SHOWS THAT CURRENTLY IN 2025, BASED ON A THREE QUARTER INCH METER USING 6825 GALLONS OF WATER AND CAPPING YOUR SEWER AT 4200 FOR FLOW, THE BILL WOULD BE $94 AND 2025 FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER. OKAY. AS YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND GRAPH, IF WE WERE TO JUST ADD 9%, A 9% INCREASE AND NOT CHANGE YOUR RATE STRUCTURE OR ANYTHING, THAT BILL WOULD GO TO $102.46. LASTLY, IF YOU LOOK AT WHETHER YOU ALL ADOPTED THE COST OF SERVICE RATE STRUCTURES AND ADDED 9% TO IT, THE BILL WOULD BE WOULD ACTUALLY BE CHEAPER UNDER THIS SCENARIO. $100.23. THE REASON BEING, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SEWER CHARGES $58.93, [03:20:01] $64.23, AND NOW IT'S GOING DOWN TO $55.10, CREATING A SAVINGS FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS IN THIS SCENARIO. ALL RIGHT. SO BECAUSE RESIDENTIAL IS SO IMPORTANT WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND BENCHMARK AGAINST PEER JURISDICTIONS. SO IF YOU LOOK HERE WE'RE BASICALLY SHOWING YOU WHAT YOUR RATES LOOK LIKE IN COMPARISON TO SEVERAL OTHERS THAT ARE SERVICED BY DALLAS WATER UTILITIES. THE KEY TAKEAWAY HERE IS THAT IN EVERY SCENARIO, THE SOTOS RATE OPTIONS ARE THE THIRD LOWEST IN COMPARISON TO PEER CITIES. WOW. THANK YOU, MR. WILLIAMS. ONE OF OUR ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES HAS A QUESTION, COUNCILMAN WATERS. WELL, THIS WAS A QUESTION, ACTUALLY, FOR YOU. I FORGET YOUR NAME. MISS FLORES. YOU PROBABLY KNOW IT, TOO. WHEN Y'ALL MENTIONED THE NEW CLASSES. OKAY, GREAT THAT Y'ALL FINALLY GETTING US INTO THE 21ST CENTURY, BUT SHOULDN'T YOU HAVE A FOURTH? IS IT FOURTH CLASS HERE FOR INDUSTRIAL? I DIDN'T SEE INDUSTRIAL WAR IS INDUSTRIAL IN THIS? NO, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO YOU ARE RIGHT THAT IN SOME CITIES THEY TEND TO HAVE INDUSTRIAL. AND DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF INDUSTRIAL, THEY'LL HAVE SMALL INDUSTRIAL, LARGE INDUSTRIAL, EXTRA LARGE THINGS OF THAT NATURE. INDUSTRIAL WILL BE ROLLED INTO THE COMMERCIAL CLASS FOR YOU ALL. THAT'S WHERE THE INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMERS ARE AT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION REALLY QUICK. I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE COST OF SERVICE. MY QUESTION IS, IS EVERYTHING THAT'S HERE BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS CAME OUT BEFORE. MAYBE DALLAS WATER SAID WE'RE INCREASING OUR RATES. DOES THIS INCLUDE THAT INCREASE? YES IT DOES. OKAY. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL KEEP GOING HERE. LOOKING AT THE BILL COMPARISON. IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE WILMER LANCASTER DE SOTO EXISTING DE SOTO COSTA SERVICE. DE SOTO IF YOU JUST ADD A 9%. THE PICTURE WE'RE PAINTING HERE IS THAT IN ALL THESE SCENARIOS, YOU ALL ARE STILL SHOWING TO HAVE THE THIRD LOWEST RATES IN COMPARISON TO YOUR PEER CITIES HERE. OKAY. SO LOOKING AT THE NEXT SEVERAL CUSTOMER CLASSES IS HERE AND I WON'T GO AS FAR IN DETAIL AS AS I HAVE ALREADY, BUT LOOKING AT RESIDENTIAL, IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. CURRENTLY YOU ALL ARE CHARGING A TIER STRUCTURE FOR IRRIGATION, AND TECHNICALLY YOU SHOULD REALLY BE CHARGING A UNIFORM RATE. OKAY, SO AS YOU LOOK HERE AND I'M SHOWING A TWO INCH METER, THE LOGIC BEHIND THIS, I WANTED TO SEE WHERE THE MAJORITY OF YOUR IRRIGATION METERS WERE AT. SO THE MAJORITY OF YOUR IRRIGATION METERS ARE TWO INCH METERS. SO I'M SHOWING YOU THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. LOOKING HERE, A22 INCH METER IS $65.60. AFTER YOU INCREASE IT 9% AND YOU WOULD BE CHARGING YOUR IRRIGATION CUSTOMERS FOR 03499596, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH WATER THEY'RE USING. WELL, WITH THE STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING HERE. AND EXCUSE ME I MAY HAVE MISSPOKE. WITH IRRIGATION, YOU CHARGE A TIER STRUCTURE. STILL, I THINK I SAY UNIFORM, BUT WITH THE TIER STRUCTURE THAT I'M SHOWING HERE BASED UPON COST OF SERVICE, THAT TIER ONE WOULD BE $4.11 INSTEAD OF THE 403 YOU'RE CURRENTLY CHARGING. TIER TWO WOULD BE $5.48, TIER THREE WOULD BE 686, AND THE LAST TIER WOULD BE 823. NOW, KEEP IN MIND, ALTHOUGH YOU'RE CHARGING FOR EVERY DROP OF WATER AND AS YOU LOOK AT WHAT WHAT HOW DO YOU SAY THIS WHAT RESIDENTIAL WILL USE MORE THAN LIKELY THEY'RE GOING TO FALL WITHIN THAT FIRST TIER, BECAUSE THE TIER IS CUT UP TO 25,000 GALLONS. AND JUST GIVEN A REAL EXAMPLE, I KNOW LAST MONTH, MY WATER BILL, I BELIEVE THAT I USED 18,000 GALLONS OF WATER. AND MY WIFE, SHE'S LIKE, WHAT HAPPENED? WHY? WHY IS OUR BILL SO HIGH? I'M LIKE, OH, IT'S THE IRRIGATION. WELL, WITH RESIDENTIAL, HE'S IN 18 GALLONS, 18,000 GALLONS OF WATER YOU CAN PRETTY EASILY DO WITH THE BILL. YOU WOULD EASILY BE ABLE TO CALCULATE WHAT THE BILL IS $4.11 TIMES 18. THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IT WOULD BE IN A BAD SCENARIO OF USING WAY TOO MUCH WATER. OKAY, SO I'M SORRY, CAN YOU, SIR? THANK YOU FOR THAT. CAN YOU? OKAY. THERE WE GO. WILL YOU SAY AT ALL METER SIZES YOU'RE SAYING FOR IRRIGATION THE METER SIZE IS DIFFERENT. SO WITH IRRIGATION YOU DO HAVE SOME THAT WE'RE SHOWING UP AS ONE INCH METERS. I BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE ONE AND A HALF AND TWO INCH. [03:25:04] SO IF I ANSWER IT THIS WAY WITH EVERY CUSTOMER CLASS, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT METER SIZES. SO WHATEVER THE METER SIZE IS, THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD BE CHARGED. OKAY. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF A TWO INCH. SO IF I HAD A ONE INCH IT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE SAYING THAT AND $0.91 WOULD BE THE METER CHARGE FOR A ONE INCH. OH, OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THREE QUARTER INCH WOULD BE $12.64. BUT PROBABLY THERE PROBABLY AREN'T MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THREE QUARTERS INCH THERE. IT'LL MOSTLY BE YOUR TWO INCH. AND ONE INCH IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE USING FOR IRRIGATION. SO IF A IF A IF A IF AN ORGANIZATION WAS JUST ON IRRIGATION, THIS IS WHAT THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT. OKAY. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO LOOKING AT AN EXAMPLE OF A SAMPLE BILL FOR IRRIGATION, WE BASE THIS ON A TWO INCH METER. OKAY. 74 803 GALLONS OF WATER. CLEARLY THESE CUSTOMERS ARE NOT NOT YOUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS, RIGHT. THAT'S A LOT OF WATER. SO AS YOU LOOK AT 2025, THEY THEY ARE CURRENTLY PAYING $425. ALL RIGHT. UNDER 26. IF YOU JUST ADDED A 9% INCREASE, THAT WOULD BE PAYING FOR 77. BUT IF YOU BASE THE RATES ON COST OF SERVICE, THEY WOULD BE PAYING FOR 7559. OKAY. SO THESE SCENARIOS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. YOU'RE JUST RIGHT SIZING IT FOR WHAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY CONSUMING. OKAY. SO THE THE FOOTNOTE THAT I HAVE HERE, I NOTED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. BASICALLY, MOST OF YOUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS, THEY'RE GOING TO FALL WITHIN 0 TO 25,000 GALLONS. SO THEY WILL ACTUALLY GET THE LOWER VOLUMETRIC RATE ANYWAY. ALL RIGHT. SO LOOKING AT THE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER CLASS THE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER CLASS IS YOUR UNIFORM RATE. OKAY. YOU DO NOT HAVE THIS TIER STRUCTURE THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE LEFT WHERE YOU WILL CHARGE 6560 FOR A TWO INCH METER. AND YOU WERE CHARGED EVERY TIME THAT THEY STEP UP INTO DIFFERENT TIERS. WELL, BASED UPON A THE COST OF SERVICE, YOU WILL ACTUALLY JUST CHARGE $3.95 PER THOUSAND GALLONS. AND THAT'S FACTORING ALL THE COSTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH COMMERCIAL. DIVIDED BY THE VOLUME. YOU WILL ALSO HAVE THE $65.60 METERS CHARGE IN ADDITION TO. IF YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, WELL, YOU WILL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE FOR EVERY ADDITIONAL METER OVER TWO METERS. OKAY. EVERY ADDITIONAL. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL DO CURRENTLY. OKAY. SO IT'S NO CHANGE THERE. ALL RIGHT. SO AGAIN THE CITY WOULD ADMINISTER A UNIFORM RATE FOR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS WHICH IS INDUSTRY STANDARD. COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS TYPICALLY USE WATER IN A SIMILAR PATTERN THROUGHOUT THE BILLING YEAR. THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE A UNIFORM RATE. YOU REALLY DON'T PEAK AS MUCH WITH COMMERCIAL. AND AS WE LOOK AT THE SEWER SIDE OF THINGS. CURRENTLY THE BASE CHARGE WILL BE $15.29. AFTER FACTORING 9% INCREASE. THE FLOW CHARGE WILL ALSO BE 1529 FOR ANYTHING OVER 1000 GALLONS. I BELIEVE IT IS. SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS THAT YOU CHARGE THE 1529 FOR THE BASE CHARGE, BUT AS FAR AS THE FLOW CHARGE THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY MOVE IT DOWN TO $8.58. AGAIN, THIS IS BASED UPON THE COST OF SERVICE ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH YOU NEED TO RECOUP BASED UPON THE COST ALLOCATED TO SEWER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT EXACTLY DOES THIS MEAN AS FAR AS A SAMPLE BILL, WATER AND SEWER COMBINED FOR COMMERCIAL CURRENTLY FOR A TWO INCH METER AT 114,472 GALLONS, WE HAVE A NINTH $1,940 CHARGE. OKAY. UNDER THIS SCENARIO, WELL, IF YOU JUST ADD 9% TO YOUR RATES, YOU WILL BE CHARGING $2,134, WHEREAS UNDER THE COST OF SERVICE SCENARIO IT WOULD BE $1,882.40. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT NOT ONLY WOULD COMMERCIAL BE GETTING A BREAK WITH THE COST OF WATER, BECAUSE CURRENTLY THEY'RE BEING OVERCHARGED FOR WATER, WHICH YOU HAVE TO RIGHT SIZE IT EVERY FEW YEARS. SO WE'RE WORRIED ON PAR WITH WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. AND WITH SEWER, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SEWER COST WILL GO UP SLIGHTLY FOR COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THEIR FLOW WILL BE PRETTY EXPENSIVE. OKAY. LAST EXAMPLE HERE. HOME STRETCH. SO WITH MUNICIPAL FACILITIES AGAIN THEY'RE BEING CHARGED THE SAME RATE [03:30:02] STRUCTURE AS EVERYONE. CURRENTLY, THE 1.5IN METER WILL BE $42.89 AFTER A 9% INCREASE. THE TIERS WE HAVE GOING 0 TO 1000 000. WE HAVE THE TEARS. ONE, TWO, THREE WITH DIFFERENT RATES. SO HERE'S WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED FOR MUNICIPAL FACILITIES. WE RECOMMEND THAT FOR THE 1.5IN YOU DO CHARGE THE $42.89, BUT YOU WOULD JUST CHARGE 200, EXCUSE ME, $2.88 PER THOUSAND GALLONS ON THE MUNICIPAL WATER USE. OKAY, SO THIS IS A DISCOUNTED RATE FOR MUNICIPAL FACILITIES. THE METHODOLOGY OUTLINED FOR THE $2.88 IS BASICALLY ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDES IN THE EARLY RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW IT. AND LASTLY IN ADDITION TO THE FIXED CHARGE AND VOLUME CHARGE, WE HAVE APPLIED THIS 9% INCREASE TO THIS RATE TO GET TO THE $2.88. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH MUNICIPAL FACILITIES ON THE SEWER SIDE, EXCUSE ME, I HAD A QUESTION ON THE MUNICIPAL FACILITY. SLIDE. ARE THERE? DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON IF OUR SISTER CITIES. HOW THEY'RE CHARGING. DO THEY CHARGE? WHAT? WHAT STRUCTURE ARE THEY USING? DO THEY HAVE THE SAME RATE FOR MUNICIPALITIES AS THEY DO FOR RESIDENTIAL? ARE THERE DIFFERENT? I KNOW THAT LANCASTER HAS A DIFFERENT RATE, BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. SO WE DID NOT BENCHMARK AGAINST YOUR SISTER CITIES. BUT FROM CONDUCTING MULTIPLE RATE STUDIES, WE CAN SAY THAT EVERY CITY THEY TREAT MUNICIPAL USE DIFFERENTLY. SOME CITIES THEY'LL CHOOSE NOT TO CHARGE, WHICH WE DO NOT RECOMMEND, AND OTHER CITIES THEY CHOOSE TO CHARGE A DISCOUNTED RATE FOR THEIR MUNICIPAL FACILITIES. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ONE OTHER QUESTION. YES. ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SISTER CITIES, YOU HAVE TO DO TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS. THE COST OF SERVICES AS, AS AS OPPOSED TO JUST SERVICE. OF OUR OTHER CITIES? ARE THEY ALL COST OF SERVICE AS WELL? I'M NOT CERTAIN IF THEY ARE ALL COST OF SERVICE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT EACH CITY HAS TO UNDERGO A RATE STUDY AT SOME POINT, AND USUALLY WHENEVER THEY WORK WITH A RATE CONSULTANT COST, THE SERVICE IS RECOMMENDED BECAUSE IT IS INDUSTRY STANDARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO LOOKING HERE AT MUNICIPAL FOR THE SAMPLE BILL FOR A 1.5IN METER AT 69.429 GALLONS, THE COST WOULD BE $1,369 IN 2025 AND 26. IF YOU JUST APPLY THE 9% INCREASE, IT WOULD BE $1,405, ALMOST 406. AND LASTLY, IF YOU WERE TO DO THIS MIX, THIS HYBRID APPROACH BETWEEN THE GWU CHARGE AND ADMIN CHARGE ON THE WATER SIDE, AND THE COST OF SERVICE ON THE SEWER SIDE. MUNICIPAL FACILITIES WILL PAY $1,076 UNDER THIS SCENARIO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S ALL ON THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SIDE WITH SANITATION. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CURRENT RATE IS $31.47. AND WITH A 9% INCREASE, WE'RE RECOMMENDED $34.30 ON THE SANITATION PIECE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE ITEMS THAT ARE NOTED HERE IS THAT REPUBLIC SERVICES CONTRACT IS STATES THAT THE FY 2025 RATES ARE EFFECTIVE IN JUNE OF 2025. AND THAT'S ALL. THE ONLY NOTATION WE MADE THERE. SO ZOOMING OUT NEXT STEPS AND FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS, WE WILL LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER ADOPTING THE NEW CUSTOMER CLASSES WHERE YOU WOULD ALREADY HAVE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, BUT YOU WOULD ADD IRRIGATION AND MUNICIPAL FACILITIES TO YOUR CUSTOMER CLASSES. WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER ADOPTING THE NEW TIER STRUCTURES WHERE RESIDENTIAL AND IRRIGATION WILL FOLLOW A TIER STRUCTURE, BUT COMMERCIAL AND MUNICIPALS WILL HAVE A UNIFORM RATE. AND LASTLY, I HEAR THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY GIVING THEM SOME INFORMATION AS FAR AS RATES. SO NOTHING ON THAT FRONT. BUT IF YOU ALL ADOPT THESE RATES THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO LOOK AT IMPLEMENTATION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS INSIDE OF YOUR BILLING SYSTEM. WITH THAT BEING SAID THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION AND WE'RE OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. MR. WILLIAMS. [03:35:01] YES, COUNCILMEMBER PARKER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. HOW EASILY WOULD IT BE TO ADOPT THESE DIFFERENT TIERED. I MEAN, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE AS FAR AS THE BILLING AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF? AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A QUESTION FOR YOUR STAFF, SO I'LL LET MR. LACEY ANSWER IT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER. PARKER. IT'D BE RELATIVELY EASY WITH OUR NEW SYSTEM. WE WE CURRENTLY HAVE TIERS THAT WOULD JUST BE EXPANDING THOSE THOSE TEARS AND PUTTING THAT INFORMATION INTO OUR INFORMATION SYSTEM. OKAY, SO THAT WOULD BE RELATIVELY EASY. THE QUICKER THAT WE KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRANSITIONING TO. THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT CONSENSUS THIS MORNING. OKAY. AND THEN THE THE PREVIOUS SLIDE WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT REPUBLIC, THAT ACTUALLY HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT FOR THAT PARTICULAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SWITCH IS BASED ON REPUBLIC'S CONTRACT. SO IN OTHER WORDS, NOTHING ADDITIONAL. THEN I DON'T KNOW THAT I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. I'M SORRY. CAN YOU. SO THAT AMOUNT ROUGHLY WHAT $3 IS BASED ON 3430. IT'S BASED ON THEIR CURRENT CONTRACT. OH, WELL, YES. SO THE 30, THE $31 AND 30, $31.47 IS WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE CURRENTLY CHARGED TODAY. IF WE ADOPT THE 9% INCREASE, THE RESIDENTS CHARGE WILL GO TO $34.30. BUT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT REPUBLIC'S CONTRACT SAYS. YES, IT DOES BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE OPERATIONAL COSTS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT GOES INTO THAT RATE, OKAY. AND THAT'S FOR STATUS QUO OF WHAT REPUBLIC DOES RIGHT NOW. WELL, I HAVE ANOTHER WE HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME PROPOSED CHANGES. BUT THAT IS WHAT THAT DOES INCLUDE. EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WILL BE COVERED BY THAT RATE. THAT'S $3. THAT ADDITIONAL $3. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK. AND TO ADD MORE CONTEXT TO WHAT ISOM IS SAYING HERE, THIS $3, IT INCLUDES THE 3.5% ESCALATION COST TO THE REPUBLIC CONTRACT. BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES THE ADDITIONAL STREET SWEEPER THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO PURCHASE, AS WELL AS THE STAFF THAT YOU NEED TO OPERATE THAT STREET SWEEPER. SO OVERALL, THAT'S 6% INCREASE THAT YOU'RE TAKING ON ON YOUR EXPENSES. YES, THIS $3 WILL COVER THE EXPENSES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO TAKE ON FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION. AND I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. I WAS JUST CURIOUS BY CHANCE, BECAUSE THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE HAD TO ENDURE MULTIPLE INCREASES OVER THE YEARS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND I CAN JUST HEAR IT NOW. RIGHT. SO I WAS CURIOUS IF YOU ALL LOOKED AT A MODEL OR A TIER SYSTEM WHERE PERHAPS THE NEW CONNECTS. PERHAPS BEAR MORE LIKE. MORE OF THE INCREASE THAN THE EXISTING ACCOUNTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT, LIKE, THE REPUBLICS IN THAT PIECE AND THE TREPIDATION WE HAVE CURRENTLY AROUND JUST THEIR PERFORMANCE, I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THAT WAS EVEN AN OPTION IN GENERAL. WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING A LOT OF CITIES, THEY'LL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING IMPACT FEES TO KIND OF OFFSET SOME COSTS. NOW, I'M NOT FOR CERTAIN IF YOU ALL CURRENTLY HAVE IMPACT FEES OR NOT, I CAN'T REMEMBER. OKAY. BUT AT THIS POINT, I'LL LET BRANDON AND ANGIE TALK ABOUT IMPACT FEES BECAUSE SHE IS THE EXPERT ON IT. ALL RIGHT. SO, COUNCIL MEMBER. EXCUSE ME, MAYOR PRO TEM CHISELING RESPECT ON YOUR NAME. WE CURRENTLY DO HAVE A WATER, SEWER AND ROADWAY IMPACT FEES. NOW, IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY, WHEN YOU SAY LIKE NEW CONNECTS, LIKE PASSING THAT TO NEW HOMEOWNERS. AM I UNDERSTOOD? YEAH. WELL, THEY COULD NOT NECESSARILY BE NEW HOMEOWNERS RIGHT THERE. JUST A NEW WATER. NO. NEW WATER. YES. YES. SO. SO THERE ARE CERTAIN FEES ASSOCIATED WITH, YOU KNOW, LIKE METER SET FEES AND SUCH LIKE THAT. BUT AS FAR AS THE RATE STRUCTURE GOES, YOU KNOW, THE TEXT OF THE WATER CODE IS VERY SPECIFIC. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T BE UNDULY DISCRIMINATORY WHEN IT COMES TO ESTABLISHING RATES SUCH LIKE THAT. SO THERE'S THERE'S VERY LITTLE LEEWAY IN REGARDS TO THE SITUATION THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF. I WAS JUST THINKING CREATIVE AND OUT THE BOX. THANKS, MA'AM. AND I WILL SAY THAT IN TERMS OF TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO YOUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. BIG PICTURE. A LOT OF TIMES, YOUR CAPITAL COSTS THAT WILL DRIVE THE COST OF YOUR RATES THAT YOU HAVE TO CHARGE. SO THERE IS A WORLD THAT AS YOU LOOK AT YOUR CURRENT IMPACT FEES THERE'S A WORLD WHERE YOU CAN LOOK AT HOW CAN YOU START TO OFFSET SOME OF THOSE FUTURE COSTS BY CHARGING SOME OF THE [03:40:03] DEVELOPERS THAT ARE COMING INTO YOUR COMMUNITIES WITH MORE DEVELOPMENT BEING ABLE TO RECOUP SOME FUNDS FROM THEM SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE AFFORDABLE FOR YOUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. BUT THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY. WE CAN PUT A PIN IN IT SINCE WE KNOW THAT IT'S OF INTEREST. HOW CAN YOU LESSEN THE BLOW FOR YOUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS WITHIN THE LETTER OF THE LAW? YOU'RE WELCOME. HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS TO ADD, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT EVEN WITH THE FEES IMPLEMENTED, WE ARE STILL THE SECOND LOWEST IN TERMS OF CITIES SURROUNDING CITIES IN TERMS OF THE SEWER AND WATER. NOT ONLY RATES, BUT THE BILL ITSELF. FAR. THE LOWEST IS WILLMAR AND I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE IMPLEMENTED THEIRS YET. SO WE ARE THE SECOND. THE SECOND LOWEST IS THAT. IS THAT THE CASE? WE'RE SHOWING THE THIRD LOWEST CURRENTLY, BUT AFTER PEOPLE INCREASE THEIR RATES YOU ALL MAY VERY WELL BE THE SECOND. OKAY. SO THAT'S ONE TWO. THE OTHER THING THAT IS INCLUDED IN IN THE SEWER RATE IS I BELIEVE I'VE ASKED FOR A, AN INSPECTION TV CAMERA AND THERE AND THAT IS INCLUDED IN IT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS START WITH A PROACTIVE APPROACH TO INSPECTING ALL OF OUR SEWER LINES, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE. AND THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THE GOAL FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INSPECT THEM FOR TWO REASONS. ONE, TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO STRAIN OR CRACKS IN THE SEWER LINES. THOSE ARE DANGEROUS THINGS TO HAVE, AND TWO, TO ALSO PLAN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS FOR SURE. PROACTIVELY. SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT. MISTER GODFREY, HE MENTIONED THAT WE HAD STARTED HAVING ENGAGING RESIDENTS ON THIS CONVERSATION AND I BEING MAYBE REMISS WAS THAT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TO A FEW OF THE BUDGET TOWN HALLS, BUT I DON'T RECALL US TALKING ABOUT ANY RATE INCREASES. IS WAS THAT WAS THAT WAS THAT ACCURATE OR HAVE THAT CONVERSATION NOT SO WE'VE IN ONE OF THE SLIDES IN THE PRESENTATION, WE SAY THAT THAT WILL INCLUDE 9% INCREASES. WE DIDN'T GO INTO ANY DETAILS OVER THAT. BUT THE THE INTENTION OF THE INCREASES WERE PART OF THAT PRESENTATION. OKAY. BUT WE DIDN'T GO WE DIDN'T GO INTO AN ELABORATE DETAIL WITH THAT. SO WE WILL HAVE TO DO SOME GOOD MARKETING AND BRANDING DUE DILIGENCE IN THAT. THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT I THINK IN THE PAST WE'VE SAID THAT TO BRING IT TO REAL LIFE FOR RESIDENTS TO SEE WHAT? WHAT? NOT JUST TO SAY 9%, BUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR AN AVERAGE BILL. THANK YOU. I JUST TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING THE GOD, I JUST LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. YEAH. REGARDING THE, YOU KNOW, REGARDING THE WATER BILL WHEN YOU AVERAGED OUT THE THE. OH, IMPLEMENTATION, WHEN WOULD YOU SUGGEST THAT? WOULD YOU SUGGEST TIME TIME FOR TOWN HALL MEETINGS. TIME FOR US TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET, BUT WHEN WOULD YOU SUGGEST THAT IF THESE RATE INCREASES ARE, YOU KNOW, WHICHEVER MODEL, THE COST OF SERVICE MODEL, WHICH IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION, WHEN WOULD YOU SUGGEST THAT WE IMPLEMENT THOSE SO THAT WE CAN BE FORWARD THINKING ABOUT INFORMING THE CITIZENS? WOULD THAT BE A CALENDAR YEAR, WOULD THAT BE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR AND WHAT LOCATE AT WHAT TIME? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BERRY, FOR YOUR QUESTION. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO KEEP THE SAME CONSISTENT CADENCE AND ADOPTING THE NEW RATES ALONG WITH THE FY 26 BUDGET, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, BEING AN ENTERPRISE FUND, HAVING TO RECOUP COSTS, WE TOOK, YOU KNOW, THE RATE INCREASE IN THE ACCOUNT WHEN FORMULATING OUR BUDGET. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO YOUR SYSTEM TO WHAT MY COLLEAGUE WAS ASKING. YOUR SYSTEM IS ABLE TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS THAT QUICKLY AND PUT US IN POSITION. YES, SIR. LIKE I SAID AT THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET THAT CONSENSUS IN OUR MARCHING ORDERS ON HOW TO PROCEED FORWARD, WE CAN ACTUALLY START A LOT OF THAT BACKGROUND WORK NOW AND TESTING AND WHATNOT. AND REALLY AND TRULY, ALTHOUGH IT WOULD TAKE AN EFFECT OCTOBER 1ST, IT WOULD BE REALLY THE NOVEMBER BILL SINCE WE BUILD BACKWARDS. SO WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IN THAT REGARD. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. MAYOR OAKES AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT. WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF THE IMPLEMENTATION. WELL, MY QUESTION IS, IS FOR THE ORDER OF THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING. THE COMMUNITY WORKSHOP, I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE ONE WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH BEFORE THE ACTUAL ADOPTION, TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE [03:45:04] THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT SO THAT THEY CAN GIVE US FEEDBACK. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A WORKSHOP AFTER WE'VE ADOPTED IT. OKAY. SO IF WE TAKE A STEP BACK, WE ACTUALLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD EIGHT TOWN HALLS WHERE THIS HAS BEEN MENTIONED AS WELL AS THIS RIGHT HERE BEING AN OPEN MEETING AS WELL. I BELIEVE WHEN WE WHEN WE INITIALLY MADE THIS PRESENTATION, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A COMMUNITY WORKSHOP. HOWEVER, AS MR. WILLIAMS MENTIONED DURING THE PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, THESE TOWN HALLS HAVE TAKEN PLACE AS RECENTLY AS THIS WEEK AND AS WELL AS TODAY. SO I WOULD YIELD TO THE CITY MANAGER IF HE FEELS NECESSARY, THAT WE DO ANOTHER TOWN HALL. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASE HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, STATED SEVERAL TIMES BY MISS SUTTON DURING HER PRESENTATIONS. OKAY. YOU BET. I'M SORRY. FOR CLARIFICATION. WHEN WILL THE RESIDENTS SEE THE IMPACT? STARTING WITH THE NOVEMBER BILL. OKAY, SO I WOULDN'T SAY, LIKE, IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, BUT DEFINITELY AT LEAST 30 TO 60 DAYS OUT FOR VERY LEAST 45. RIGHT? BEFORE THEY GET THE BILL, BECAUSE I THINK THE CLOSER TO TIME IT WILL RESONATE MORE, MAYBE EVEN EVEN WITHIN THAT MONTH AND EVEN PAST THAT, I THINK WE'LL STILL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT MARKETING, BECAUSE AS WE'VE SEEN WITH THE TRASH WE DID COMMUNITY CALLS THE MONTH LEADING TO IT. AND WE ARE STILL A YEAR LATER TALKING ABOUT HOW BULK TRASH WORKS. SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S JUST A ONE THING. CERTAINLY WE SHOULD DO IT BEFORE THE BILL HITS, RIGHT? 30 DAYS OUT, BUT ALSO A PLAN THAT EXCEEDS PAST THAT TIME SO THAT IT'S CONSTANTLY BEING MESSAGED AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, NOT I THINK I KNOW OUR COMMITMENT IS ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, BEING TRANSPARENT AND REACHING. YOU KNOW, THE BROADER AUDIENCE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE BILL, BACKERS SOCIAL MEDIA, JUST WHATEVER. BECAUSE AS WE'VE SEEN WITH THE TOWN HALL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LIGHTLY ATTENDED. SO IT MIGHT BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BLASTING OUT THROUGH BRANDING AND MARKETING. AS THE CITY MANAGER STATED. WELL, JUST FOR CLARITY, THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WAS SAYING. I'M AT THIS POINT, WE'RE SAYING IT, BUT WE'RE NOT ASKING. I MEAN, PEOPLE MAY THINK YOU'RE ASKING, WELL, I'M SORRY. THEY HEAR YOU SAYING IT, BUT THERE IS NO OPEN CALL TO SAY, GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK. OR ARE YOU SAYING WE DON'T WANT THE FEEDBACK? THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M GOING. I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S HAPPENING. THEY SEE IT. THEY CAN CAN KIND OF RESONATE WITH IT BEFORE IT'S ACTUALLY ADOPTED. AND THEN WE ADOPT IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. BUT RIGHT NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY I WAS ASKING. BECAUSE AS I WAS LOOKING AT THE ORDER OF THINGS, THE WORKSHOP REALLY DID NOT HAPPEN AT ALL. IT WAS JUST STATED IT WAS THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING. IT WASN'T REALLY A WORKSHOP. SO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION AND THAT'S JUST WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THE CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. SO SO AS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, I WOULD YIELD TO THE CITY MANAGER IF YOU THINK ANOTHER WORKSHOP IS NECESSARY. THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. ABSOLUTELY. WE WOULD LOVE TO ACTUALLY HAVE HAVE A WORKSHOP. LET ME LET ME AT LEAST SET THE EXPECTATIONS FOR US. DALLAS WATER UTILITY AND TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY WILL CHARGE US THE 9%. THAT'S A FACT. SO IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD TO THE BILL 9% OR WE'RE DOING WITH THAT STRUCTURED TIER. SO THERE WILL BE IMPACT. SO THE FEEDBACK IS GOING TO BE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE AN IMPACT. THE SMALLER HOMES ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY BENEFIT FROM IT. THE MORE USAGE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BENEFIT FROM IT. YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO BE PAYING YOUR FAIR SHARE FOR IT. SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO TO SAY THAT THE FEEDBACK IS GOING TO BE ABOUT. THIS IS KIND OF THE STRUCTURE. TELL US WHAT YOUR PAIN POINTS ARE. AND THAT IF IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY THE FEEDBACK IS, WELL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ADOPT A STRUCTURE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO START EATING INTO OUR RESERVE, OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE ANY PROJECTS FORWARD. SO I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE FALSE EXPECTATIONS THAT THAT THIS WORKSHOP IS GOING TO BE ABOUT SOLICITING, YOU KNOW, THE FEEDBACK AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE SAY IF THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT THE CHANGE OR DOESN'T WANT THE INCREASES, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO INCREASES. THERE WILL BE IMPACT IF WE DON'T DO INCREASES. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL IN SAYING THAT WE WILL HAVE THE WORKSHOP TO INFORM THE CITIZENS OF WHAT NEEDS TO HAVE AND ASK AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY MAY HAVE, WHETHER IT'S IN THE SANITATION ASPECT OR IN THE WATER AND SEWER ASPECT. BUT AGAIN, IT'S UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT DECISION ON, ON WHETHER YOU WANT TO ADOPT THAT RATE VERSUS THAT RATE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I JUST AM CURIOUS TO KNOW, WITH THE NEW RATE THAT WE'RE BEING PROPOSED [03:50:06] TO US IN THE NEW CLASSES. DO WE ANTICIPATE CHANGES TO CHEMICAL OR EQUIPMENT COSTS WITH INFLATION, OR IS THAT INCLUDED IN THIS NEW RATE? THANK YOU FOR THAT. YEAH. SO IT IS ACTUALLY INCLUDED AS PART OF THE OPERATING BUDGET. EXCUSE ME. IT SOUNDS LIKE AN AIRPLANE IS GETTING READY TO LAND. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNSEL, FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. LET US KNOW WHAT YOU ALL NEED FROM US AS FAR AS DIRECTION, MR. LACEY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THE CONSENSUS THAT I NEED IS WHETHER WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR STATUS QUO RATE STRUCTURE WITH OUR TWO CUSTOMER CLASSES, RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, OR IF WE DO THAT EXPANDED TIER COST OF SERVICE MODEL TO INCLUDE MUNICIPAL FACILITIES AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL AT THAT. THAT SAID WE'LL NEED TO GET A CONSENSUS. SO I'M GOING TO START TO MY RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. CAN WE PUT THE CHOICES? THERE'S A SLIDE I THINK THAT HAS THE. I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE BEGINNING. THE OPTIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING US FOR. CONSENSUS? YES. MADAM MAYOR, I'LL GO WITH THE RECOMMENDED. THANK YOU. I GO WITH THE RECOMMENDED AS WELL. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER. THE COST OF SERVICE. THE RECOMMENDED. COST OF SERVICE RECOMMENDED. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER PARKER. I'LL GO ALONG WITH OPTION TWO AS WELL. OKAY. MY ME AS WELL. SO WE DO HAVE CONSENSUS FOR FOR THE RECOMMENDED. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THINGS MOVING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO STILL GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC UTILITY SLIDES FOR THEIR DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTAL HIGHLIGHTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. SO AGAIN, THE SERVICES OFFERED ARE LISTED HERE. THE DIVISIONS WITHIN UTILITY OPERATIONS OR UTILITY ADMINISTRATION, WATER SEWER MAINTENANCE AND UTILITY BUILDING DEPARTMENT. AND AS A REMINDER, JUST THE PERSONNEL CHANGES THAT ARE LISTED HERE. A FULL TIME METER TECHNICIAN, A FULL TIME SENIOR METER TECHNICIAN, THREE CLASSES AND OF A WATER MAINTENANCE FIELD SUPERVISOR FROM GRADE 107 TO 109 AND A RE CLASS OF A METER SERVICE FIELD SUPERVISOR FROM 107 TO 109. WE'VE JUST RECEIVED THE RATES AND THE OUT BRIEFING OF THE STUDY, AND WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE NEW STRUCTURE AS PRESENTED. AND THAT IS ALL FOR THE PUBLIC UTILITY FUND. AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO REVIEW OF THE SANITATION FUND MAKING THAT PRESENTATION. IT'S GOING TO BE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER ISOM CAMERON. AND I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT ALL ALL PRESENTATIONS ARE LOADED ONLINE RIGHT NOW, INCLUDING UPDATES TO THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE YESTERDAY. THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE. WE UPDATED A COUPLE OF GRAMMATICAL ERRORS THAT WE UPDATED AS WELL. AND WHERE'S THAT PRESENTATION? I'M SORRY. WHERE IS IT? IT'S IT'S UNDER THE BUDGET. IT'S UNDER THE FINANCE SERVICES A BUDGET AND TAX INFORMATION. AND IT ACTUALLY STATES UPDATED AS OF TODAY'S DATE. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. AND THEN WE'LL [03:55:02] CONTINUE WITH SANITATION. SO IN YOUR BUDGET BOOK YOU WILL HAVE ALL OF THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. THERE ARE SEVERAL WE LIST HISTORICAL DATA RELATED TO REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES AS WELL AS PROPOSED NUMBERS FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. SOME OF THESE ARE STILL MOVING PIECES. WE WILL SEE IN YOUR BUDGET BOOK. SOME OF THEM MAY HAVE BEEN UPDATED. BUT YOU WILL DEFINITELY RECOGNIZE THE DIFFERENT VARIOUS FUNDS. SOME OF THESE FUNDS ARE FOR VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSES. ENERGY MANAGEMENT, FOR EXAMPLE. THAT'S A FUND THAT EVERY CITY DEPARTMENT CONTRIBUTES TO IN ORDER TO RESERVE MONEY FOR OUR ELECTRIC SERVICE. ALSO SOME OF THE TRAINING FUNDS AS WELL AS OUR CDBG GRANT FUNDS. DIFFERENT REVOLVING FUNDS OF THAT NATURE. I HAVE A QUESTION. NOW, THE THE BOOK ACTUALLY SHOWS US THE BREAKDOWN OF THOSE DIFFERENT FUNDS. AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC, ARE THEY ABLE TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF THOSE FUNDS? AND, YOU KNOW, IS THAT PART OF SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED? YES, IT IS IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT'S ONLINE. OKAY. AND SO THE I'M SORRY. HANG ON. LET'S SEE. YOU HAD ONE. THERE'S NO OTHER. JUST THIS CHART. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE. IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN GIVE MORE DEFINITION AS TO WHAT SPECIAL PHONES ARE FOR? WHAT? WHAT IS THEIR PURPOSE? YES. WE CAN. YEAH. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. WE WILL. WE WILL INCLUDE SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET BOOK FOR THAT WITH DEFINITIONS. OKAY. I BELIEVE WE HAD IT LAST YEAR. WE WILL INCLUDE IT FOR THIS YEAR AS WELL. AGAIN, PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS IS NOT THE FINAL BUDGET BOOK, SO WE WILL HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE BUDGET BOOK, AND WE'LL HAVE THE DEFINITION, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC'S USE WILL INCLUDE THAT AS WELL. YES. ALSO, WE HAVE OUR VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUNDS, AND THOSE ARE ALSO IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET BOOK. WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT MAKING A FEW CHANGES TO SOME OF THESE. THESE FUNDS ARE BASICALLY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SET MONEY ASIDE FOR CERTAIN PURCHASES. FOR EXAMPLE, UNDER THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS THE FURNITURE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR A WHILE. WE HAVE OUR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM THAT IS HOUSED IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AND I KNOW THEY'RE TAKING A VERY DEEP LOOK THIS YEAR AT OUR CURRENT VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM AND ENSURING THAT WE'RE GETTING THE MAXIMUM VALUE OUT OF OUR VEHICLES AND THAT THEY'RE ON A IN AN APPROPRIATE SCHEDULE. SO THERE YOU MAY THERE MAY BE SOME CHANGES FROM THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO THE FINAL BUDGET UNDER VEHICLE REPLACEMENT AS WE CONTINUE TO REFINE THAT PLAN. AND THE OTHERS ARE LISTED HERE AS WELL. AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER STATED IN THE BUDGET BOOK, THERE WILL BE A DETAILED EXPLANATION OF WHAT EACH PARTICULAR FUND IS FOR AND WHAT ITS PURPOSE IS. OH. I'M SORRY. CAN YOU GO BACK? JUST A QUICK QUESTION. SURE. WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF VEHICLES, BECAUSE I BELIEVE YESTERDAY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CARES TEAM AND THE VEHICLES THAT THEY WERE USING. ARE ALL VEHICLES WITHIN THE CITY IN THE SAME TYPE OF ARE THEY USING THE SAME TYPES OF CONTRACTS ACROSS THE BOARD OR EACH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT? THEY HAVE THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW I GUESS YOU COULD SAY CONTRACT IF YOU WILL. OR IS THE VEHICLE ALL FOR THE CITY FOR ALL VEHICLES? ARE THEY ALL THE SAME? IF, IF, IF I MAY GET CLARIFICATION. IS THAT ABOUT PURCHASE OR IS IT ABOUT MAINTENANCE? BOTH BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A VEHICLE FLEET EMAIL THAT SOMETIMES COMES OUT TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC VEHICLES, BUT I'M NOT CERTAIN I HEAR ABOUT ALL THE OTHER VEHICLES. IS THE FLEET ALL OF THEM, OR JUST PARKS OR JUST WATER OR JUST, YOU KNOW. NO. WE PURCHASE THEM FROM DIFFERENT VENDORS, BUT BASED ON THE THE BEST THE THE THE THE LOWEST OR THE MOST COMPETITIVE PRICE, I SHOULDN'T SAY THE LOWEST, THE MOST COMPETITIVE COMPETITIVE PRICE THROUGH WHAT IS IT CALLED? COMPETITIVE BID BY BOARD. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DO. WE ACTUALLY SEND NOTIFICATIONS SPECIFICALLY TO OUR OUR CITY THE CITY DEALERS STARTING, LIKE, FOR A FORD DEALER. WE SENT A SPECIFIC NOTICE TO THE FORD DEALER TO SEE IF THEY CAN BEAT THAT PRICE OR IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN BIDDING ON US. SO WE TRY TO BUY LOCAL AS WELL. [04:00:03] UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T COME THROUGH FOR US. SO WE HAVE TO GO TO THE BUY BOARD AND GET THE BEST VALUE OUT OF THOSE. AND IT COULD BE FROM DIFFERENT DEALERS. IT COULD BE FROM A DEALER IN ARLINGTON, OR IT COULD BE FROM A DEALER SOMEWHERE ELSE. AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE, WE MAINTAIN SOME, BUT A LOT. WE DISCUSS IT A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT VENDORS WITH DIFFERENT SKILL SETS, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR FIRE ENGINES. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC VENDOR WHO TAKES CARE OF THOSE. SO WAIT. I'M SORRY. YES, SIR. GOOD MORNING. MAYOR. COUNCIL TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, ALL THE VEHICLES THAT WE PURCHASE IN THE FLEET DEPARTMENT, EVERYTHING GOES OUT TO BID. I'M REQUIRED A MINIMUM OF THREE QUOTES. EVEN THOUGH I LEGALLY CAN MAKE A PURCHASE THROUGH BILLBOARD OR HVAC. I ALWAYS LOOK AT THE OMNIA CONTRACTS, THE TEXAS STATE CONTRACTS, BILLBOARD. MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE BEST PRICE FOR WHAT WE NEED FOR OUR FLEET ON EVERY VEHICLE WE PURCHASE. AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE, WE DO, THE MAJORITY OF ALL THE MAINTENANCE IS PERFORMED IN-HOUSE. WE HAVE FOUR TECHNICIANS IN OUR FLEET SERVICES DEPARTMENT. WHEN YOU DEAL WITH FIRE TRUCKS, YOU HAVE TO BE SPECIFICALLY LICENSED FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES SUCH AS THAT. A LOT OF THOSE REPAIRS ARE CONTRACTED OUT DUE TO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR WORKING ON THOSE VEHICLES. OKAY, SO THE ONLY REASON I WAS ASKING WAS BECAUSE IT JUST WAS WONDERING IS ALL. WHEN YOU SAY WHEN YOU DO ALL YOUR PURCHASES, EVERY DEPARTMENT COMES TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IN ORDER TO BUY A VEHICLE. WELL, YES, MA'AM. FOR THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, I WILL ACTUALLY SEND AN EMAIL OUT BECAUSE I KEEP TRACK OF THE VEHICLES THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED WHEN THEY'RE DUE FOR REPLACEMENT, AND I WOULD ADVISE THEM WHAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR SO THAT THEY CAN MAINTAIN THE THE FLEET THAT THEY NEED TO OPERATE EFFICIENTLY. OKAY. AND KERRY'S TEAM IS A PART OF THAT TEAM ACTUALLY WAS THE BRAND NEW TWO VEHICLES THAT WE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL LAST MONTH. THAT IS A GRANT PROGRAM. WE WE WILL DO THE THE FLEET MAINTENANCE ON THE VEHICLE, BUT WE THE CITY IS NOT PAYING FOR IT. THEY ARE RECEIVING IT THROUGH THE GRANT PROGRAM. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? IT DOES. I MEAN, I JUST WAS ASKING BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS A THOUGHT PROCESS ABOUT THAT. CORRECT. THERE WERE TWO VEHICLES THAT WERE REPLACED. WERE BOUGHT WITH GRANT FUNDS. CORRECT. BUT NOW THE GRANT FUNDS ARE GONE. SO WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN INCREASE FOR CARES TEAM, AND I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT PART. BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. OKAY. SO SO I JUST WANT TO I WANT TO SHARE ON THE CARE TEAM. AND SERGEANT SUMMERS IS HERE. HE CAN CORRECT ME. WE PAY ABOUT $30,000 FOR VEHICLES JUST TO RENT THEM. NOW, WITH THE WITH THE ABILITY TO PURCHASE THOSE VEHICLES. NOW, THOSE VEHICLES BECOME PART OF THE INVENTORY FOR US, AND SO THEY'LL BE READY FOR REPLACEMENT. EACH DEPARTMENT HAS A DIFFERENT A DIFFERENT CHARACTERIZATION OF WHEN TO BE REPLACED. FOR EXAMPLE, PD WE HAVE TO HAVE A A SPECIFIC MILEAGE. A NUMBER OF YEARS FOR US TO. TO FLIP THEM BASICALLY AND REPLACE THEM. SOMETIMES WHAT THEY DO IS REPURPOSE THEM FOR NON-POLICE ACTIVITIES. SO WE TAKE THEM INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF SENDING THEM TO THE AUCTION, BUY NEW CARS. AND THAT'S WHERE WADE AND HIS TEAM HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF REPURPOSING VEHICLES FOR OUR PURPOSES. AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THE FLEET UTILIZATION STUDY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER OF VEHICLES FOR THE SERVICES, AND TO ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE PROPER MAINTENANCE ON THEM. AND THEY KEEP UP WITH WITH THEM. THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THAT. SO THE TWO VEHICLES THAT WE JUST PURCHASED ARE GOING TO BE NOW PART OF THE FLEET. OKAY, OKAY. I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ASKING, WHICH ACTUALLY IN THE LONG RUN WE WILL SAVE MONEY DUE TO THE RENTAL COMPARED TO THE OUTRIGHT PURCHASE. SO IN THE YEARS TO COME DOWN, WE WILL SAVE MONEY GOING THAT ROUTE. OKAY. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT. NO PROBLEM. THEN LET ME STEP BACK. MISS IF YOU DON'T MIND IN THE ACTUAL SPECIAL FUNDS, THERE'S ONE THAT I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT. THE JUVENILE CASE MANAGER FUND. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING WHEN I WAS ASKING THAT QUESTION ABOUT THE FUNDS. SOMETIMES YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE FOR. AND THIS ONE WAS KIND OF AN ANOMALY FOR ME. I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS WAS. AND HOW IS IT THAT THE REVENUES ARE SHOWING THAT IT WILL BE MORE THIS YEAR BROUGHT IN? AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS THAT FOR? AS OPPOSED TO LAST YEAR? THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL. KAREN THURMOND, I'M THE MANAGER OF COURT SERVICES, OUR JUVENILE CASE MANAGER. FEE IS A FEE THAT'S COLLECTED ON EVERY TICKET THAT'S PAID HERE IN THE CITY. [04:05:03] WE USE IT TO OFFSET THE THE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE JUVENILE CASE MANAGER NEEDS SUPPLIES HER SALARY, THINGS HER TRAINING, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND WHAT WAS YOUR OTHER QUESTION? WELL, THE REASON I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN OUR, IN OUR BOND BOOK, IT SHOWS US A REVENUE AREA AND THEN AN ACTUAL EXPENSES AREA. OKAY, I CAN UNDERSTAND EXPENSES, I REALLY DO. BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF THIS FUND, WHY WOULD WE BE BRINGING IN MORE REVENUE FOR THAT PARTICULAR JUVENILE CASE? AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE IT FOR THE MUNICIPAL COURT AND THE MUNICIPAL COURT SECURITY FUND. ALL OF THEM SEEM TO BE INCREASING EACH YEAR. HOW IS THAT AND WHY IS THAT? WE ARE ASKING FOR A ADDITIONAL MARSHALL. WE HAVE OVER $20 MILLION IN WARRANTS THAT NEED TO BE COLLECTED ON. THAT'S WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR A NEW MARSHALL. AND IF WE GET THAT NEW MARSHALL, WE BELIEVE THAT THE REVENUE IS GOING TO GO UP. THE REVENUE GOES UP. ALL OF THOSE FEES GO UP. OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK. CITY MANAGER GODFREY. I JUST HAVE A REQUEST BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE FORUM FOR TO DIVE IN DEEP DISCUSSION ABOUT THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T THINK IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS ON THE COUNCIL WE'VE EVER LOOKED AT THAT POLICY IN GENERAL. AND WE TYPICALLY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. SO COULD YOU BRING THAT BACK AT A LATER TIME DURING OUR WORK SESSION, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE CITY'S POLICY AROUND VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS? IT'S ORIGINATION. AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO DIVE INTO CONVERSATION, BUT I JUST WANT TO COME BACK WITH THE POLICY SO WE COULD REVIEW IT AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS. I CAN PRESENT IT TO YOU. IT'S VERY EASY. WE FOLLOW THE APA STANDARDS, AND THAT'S HOW OUR GUIDELINES ARE SET. AND EXCUSE THE LAYMEN IN ME, BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT STANDARD MEANS. I'M SORRY. AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION. AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY DO OR WHAT THAT MEANS OR WHAT THEIR STANDARD ARE. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THEIR STANDARD. IS IT? MAYOR PRO TEM WE ARE ACTUALLY UNDERTAKING THIS EFFORT THIS YEAR, THIS UPCOMING YEAR, TO LOOK AT A WHOLE VEHICLE UTILIZATION STUDY AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE RIGHT SIZED. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE STANDARDS, A PWA STANDARDS AND OTHER AND OTHER STANDARDS, INDUSTRIAL STANDARDS. BUT WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S THE RIGHT SIZE FOR THE CITY. SO NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ALSO WORKING WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS POLICE, FIRE AND EVERYONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF A VEHICLE, BUT WITHOUT CREATING MORE REPAIRS FOR OURSELVES. SO THERE'S A BALANCING ACT WHERE THERE'S A CUT OFF LINE FOR WHEN YOU CAN REPLACE A VEHICLE AND HOW YOU CAN REPLACE IT. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON STUDYING. AND THE OTHER THING IS THROUGH THE EFFORTS OF OUR HR DIRECTOR, DANNY GREENLEE, WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT A VEHICLE USE POLICY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TAKE HOME POLICY AND OTHER THINGS ARE ARE ALSO IMPLEMENTED CORRECTLY. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I ASKED THAT. I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT SIZE OF IT, THE TIMING OF IT. AND ARE WE GETTING THE BIGGEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK? I APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. NO PROBLEM, NO PROBLEM. AND JUST A QUICK QUESTION TO THE LIBRARY. I'M SORRY. MY LIBRARY, THE ACTUAL WRAPPED VEHICLE. JUST THE LIBRARY. IS THAT FOR THE LIBRARY OR IS THAT. WHO IS THAT FOR? I BELIEVE THE THE RAP IS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. IT'S FOR PARKS. I BELIEVE SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. MISS. SEND IT BACK IN YOUR HANDS. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE MOVE INTO DEBT SERVICE. SO FOR OUR DEBT SERVICE FUND, OUR REVENUES OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO COME FROM TAX REVENUE. WE HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT OF INCOME THAT COMES IN FROM INTEREST. IF WE DO AN INVESTMENTS IF WE DO ANY INVESTMENTS WITH WITH OUR DEBT SERVICE FUND BALANCE THE REVENUE SOURCES ARE LISTED HERE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE AMOUNTS THAT WE ARE OBLIGATED TO PAY. I'M SORRY TO BRING IN FROM DEBT SERVICE FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. SO YOU CAN SEE THE COMPARISON FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 TO FISCAL YEAR 26. AND CORRESPONDINGLY, THESE ARE OUR EXPENSES. EXPENDITURES. SO I'M SORRY. [04:10:02] WOULD YOU EXPLAIN TO US AGAIN WHY THERE IS A DECREASE IN THE TAX REVENUE? FROM THE BUDGET OF 26, FROM THE BUDGET OF 25 TO THE BUDGET OF 26, THE 12,000,205 VERSUS 14,000,001 MILLION TWO. YES. WE WE GO BY OUR, OUR DEBT SCHEDULES. SO WHENEVER WE BRING ON NEW DEBT I KNOW FOR 26 WE DO HAVE SOME NEW DEBT. IT ACTUALLY IS A CALCULATION OF EVEN THE INTEREST THAT'S CHARGED ON THAT DEBT. EVERYTHING GOES INTO WHAT THE AMOUNT WILL BE OR WHAT WHAT WE WILL BRING IN FOR THE YEAR. IT'S GOING TO BE DEFINITELY BASED ON THE TAX RATE AS WELL. SO THIS NUMBER THE 12 MILLION MAY ACTUALLY CHANGE WHEN WE GET OUR FINAL TEXT, OUR INN'S FINAL TAX RATE FROM DALLAS COUNTY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT'S BOTHERING BOTHERING ME. CAN YOU ON YOUR SPELL CHECK? TRANSFERS. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK. AND ONE MORE QUESTION. CAN YOU GO BACK? WHERE IT SAYS INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE. WHY DOES IT HAVE SOMETHING FOR. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW IT HAS SOMETHING FOR 2025, BUT 2026 AND 2027, THERE'S NOTHING THERE OR IT HAS A SLASH. WHAT IS THAT? LET ME LET ME LOOK AT THAT. AND I CAN GET THAT BACK. GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. THANK YOU. OUR EXPENDITURES ARE GENERALLY GOING TO BE FOR OUR JUST REGULAR SCHEDULED PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS THAT WE PAY FOR OUR LONG TERM DEBT. AS WE KNOW, MOST OF OUR BONDS HAVE BEEN ON A 20 YEAR PAYOFF SCHEDULE. CITY OF DESOTO DOES A VERY GOOD JOB OF PAYING OFF DEBT IN A TIMELY MANNER AND KEEPING ON TRACK WITH OUR DEBT. OUR DEBT CAPACITY. HERE ARE ALL OF THE EXPENDITURES THAT ARE LISTED. LIKE I SAID, THE MAJORITY IS GOING TO BE THE AMOUNT THAT WE PAY FOR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST. MISS SUTTON, CAN YOU JUST. THERE IS THE EXPENDITURES VERSUS THE REVENUE. THE REVENUE IS LESS THAN THE EXPENDITURES. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THAT IS? YES. SO THE REVENUE IS BASED ON THE INN'S TAX RATE. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHAT IT IS. THAT'S A THAT'S THAT'S A CALCULATION. YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS STRICTLY BASED ON HOW MUCH OUR RATE IS. AND THEN OUR EXPENDITURES ARE ACCORDING TO OUR DEBT SCHEDULES. SO OUR DEBT, EACH BOND THAT WE HAVE HAS A DIFFERENT INTEREST RATE ATTACHED TO IT, HAS DIFFERENT FEES ATTACHED TO IT, AND SO THE EXPENDITURES ARE STRICTLY BASED ON OUR DEBT SCHEDULES. WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT A FLUCTUATION IN THE DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A VERY HEALTHY FUND BALANCE IN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND. SO OUR NSE IS $0.18 PER 100 PER $100 VALUATION. THAT'S THE REVENUE THAT WE THAT'S THE REVENUE SLASH EXPENDITURE THAT WE GET. YES. FOR OUR DEBT SERVICE TO PAY FOR OUR DEBT SERVICE. CORRECT. AND THEN WHEN WE BORROW THE ACTUAL SCHEDULES FOR WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE EXPENDITURES IS WHAT'S LISTED HERE CORRECT? CORRECT, CORRECT. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHERE I WAS TRYING TO GET TO EARLIER. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YEAH. THE REFERENCE TO THE TAX RATE BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, WHEN WE ADOPT THE TAX RATE. THE NO SIDE. RIGHT. YOU HAVE THE NO SIDE WHICH IS THE 0.50. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE INS SIDE. SO THE NO SIDE COMES OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND AND THE INS SIDE GOES OVER INTO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND TO PAY FOR OUR DEBT. OKAY. THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT DEBT. WE WILL GO INTO SANITATION. SO OUR SANITATION FUND OUR REVENUE IS LISTED HERE. 7.3 MILLION IS WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING FOR BUDGET YEAR 25. FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. THE DIFFERENT SOURCES ARE LISTED HERE AS WELL. THE RESIDENTIAL FEES COMMERCIAL FEES AND THE INTEREST REVENUE, WE KEPT INTEREST REVENUE ABOUT THE SAME. THE RATES ARE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. BUT WE KEPT THAT THE SAME RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL FEES ARE BASED ON A VALUATION IN THE STUDIES THAT WE DO. SO WE'RE GOING FROM 7.3 MILLION. ANTICIPATED FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 TO 7.9 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 26. AND WE KNOW THE MAJORITY OF IT, 87% OF THAT IS FROM RESIDENTIAL FEES CHARGED [04:15:06] TO CUSTOMERS. AND THE OTHER 12% IS FOR COMMERCIAL FEES. AND THEN ON THIS SIDE, THE CORRESPONDING EXPENDITURE SEVEN. SO IN REVENUE WE'RE LOOKING AT 7.9 MILLION. IN EXPENDITURES WE'RE LOOKING AT 7.79 MILLION. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. IF YOU WOULD KINDLY GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES TO THE I THINK A SERVICE CONTRACTS OR. NO. GO FORWARD. HERE. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. ARE WE RENEGOTIATING ANY CONTRACTS THAT IMPACT RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL COLLECTION OR DISPOSAL FEES? YES. WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL FEW SITES THAT DEPUTY CITY MANAGER CAMERON IS GOING TO GO OVER WITH YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO WE CAN GO INTO THAT RIGHT NOW, ACTUALLY. ALL RIGHT. SO GOOD MORNING AGAIN, COUNCIL. WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS KIND OF BRING YOUR ATTENTION, BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR SANITATION. OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS KNOW, WE'RE ONE YEAR END TO THE NEW CONTRACT A LITTLE OVER A YEAR, YEAR IN ONE MONTH. AND A BIG TREPIDATION, AS YOU USE MAYOR PRO TEM IS BRUSH. AND SO WE REALIZED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC AND EVERYBODY WHO MAY NOT BE AWARE, WE WENT TO A ON CALL BROKEN BRUSH PROCESS THAT WE THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE KIND OF LIKE CONCIERGE, YOU KNOW, YOU CALLED AND WE SET IT UP. WE COME PICK IT UP, BUT IT DIDN'T WORK OUT. IT'S NOT WORKING OUT THAT WAY. SOME OF THE CHALLENGES ARE SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT CALLING THEM IN. AND SO WHEN WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF THEM. IT SITS THERE. AND THEN IT CREATES CONCERN FOR THE FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEN YOU HAVE THE ISSUE WITH I CALL MINE AND WE ARE NEIGHBORS. I CALL MINE IN AND YOU DON'T. AND THEN BUT WHEN THEY COME TO PICK MINE UP, YOU EXPECT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PICK YOURS UP AND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. SO THAT CREATES SOME ISSUES AS WELL. AND THEN THE OTHER CHALLENGE WE'VE HAD, WE REALIZE THAT MAY OR MAY THROUGH JULY, WE HAVE A LOT OF STORMS, RAIN, WHICH IMPACTS, YOU KNOW, BULK I MEAN BRUSH. AND SO WE REALIZE THAT THOSE ARE WHAT WE CALL HIGH IMPACT MONTHS. AND SO WE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC, TALKING TO THE PUBLIC TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE. AND WE'VE HAD A SERIES OF MEETING MEETINGS WITH THEM. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE MOST RECENT ONE WAS YESTERDAY. WE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM YESTERDAY. SO WE DO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE TO MOVE FORWARD TO KIND OF TO REMEDY THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING WITH BALKAN BRUSH. SO, YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE. WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DISCONTINUING THE BALKAN BRUSH PROCESS. IN OTHER WORDS, RESIDENTS WILL STILL BE ABLE TO PLACE BULK AND BRUSH OUT FOR PICKUP, BUT THEY WON'T HAVE TO CALL AT THE END. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS TRANSITION TO A SET THE SYSTEM UP ON A QUADRANT SECTION. FOUR MAJOR SECTIONS IN THE CITY, AND EACH QUADRANT WILL HAVE THEIR OWN WEEK TO SET OUT BRUSH AND TO BE PICKED UP SO THAT THAT WAY THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW. I'M FOCUSING IN THIS AREA THIS WEEK. THEY'RE NOT DRIVING AROUND THE CITY LOOKING FOR BRUSH. THEY KNOW WHERE TO GO. THE RESIDENTS KNOW WHEN THEIR OPPORTUNITY IS TO PLACE BALKAN BRUSH OUT. SO IT JUST KIND OF FOCUSES THEIR ATTENTION AND KIND OF RESTRUCTURES THE SYSTEM SO THAT WE'RE ALL BEING MORE EFFICIENT AND MORE EFFECTIVE. AND THAT WOULD ELIMINATE ALSO THOSE SPORADIC PICKUPS IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, RIGHT. BECAUSE EVERYBODY IN THAT QUADRANT WILL GET PICKED UP. AND THE ONLY WAY THEY DON'T GET PICKED UP, IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY IF THEY DON'T PLACE IT OUT IN TIME. AND THEN AGAIN, WE'LL KNOW. WE'LL KNOW WHEN THE PICKUP IS COMING AND WHEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO PLACE IT OUT. WE CAN. THE OTHER THING WE WANT TO DO IS THOSE MONTHS THAT I JUST MENTIONED, MAY AND JUNE, MAY THROUGH JUNE, AND THEN ALSO NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER A LOT OF LEAVES START TO FALL AT THAT TIME OF YEAR. PEOPLE SET OUT A LOT OF LEAVES AND STUFF. AND SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT AS ANOTHER HIGH VOLUME AREA. SO WE'RE GOING TO WE TALKED TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THOSE MONTHS OF THE YEAR AUTOMATICALLY RAMPING UP, NOT NOT WAITING, YOU KNOW, AUTOMATICALLY RAMPING UP BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE OUT IN THE SYSTEM. SO THEY SEE, YOU KNOW, THEY SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. THEY SEE IT BEFORE WE SEE IT. BUT I KNOW THE RESIDENCY IS FIRST TIER FIRST, BUT THE REPUBLIC SEES IT BEFORE WE SEES IT. SEE IT? I'M SORRY. AND SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS GO AHEAD AND RAMP UP. AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THEY'LL BE BRINGING IN EXTRA TRUCKS TO HELP WITH BRUSH DURING THAT PERIOD. NOW, THAT'S ASIDE FROM STORM. YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A STORM EVENT, A CATASTROPHIC STORM EVENT, THEN THAT ELEVATES TO DISASTER DEBRIS MANAGEMENT. [04:20:04] THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROCESS, BUT JUST NORMAL, YOU KNOW, BRUSH, YOU KNOW, ANY NORMAL INCREASE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT BEING ABLE TO HELP US TO BE ABLE TO RECTIFY THAT AND RECTIFY IT QUICKLY. AND SO THOSE THOSE ARE THAT'S THE WAY WE WANT TO WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS. THE OTHER THING REPUBLICAN MADE US AWARE THAT THEY HAVE A REPUBLIC SERVICES APP. I KNOW WE HAVE THE MINNESOTA APP, BUT BUT THEIR APP, THE WAY THEY DESCRIBE IT AND THE WAY THEY DEMONSTRATED IT TO US, IT ALLOWS THE RESIDENTS TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION THAN OUR APP DOES. OUR APP JUST ALLOWS YOU TO REPORT THEIR APP, ALLOWS THEM TO RECEIVE SERVICE NOTIFICATIONS IN TERMS OF WHEN THEY'RE WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE SETTING OUT, WHEN THEIR BRUSH OR BULK WILL BE PICKED UP, WHEN THEIR GARBAGE DAY IS SO THEY'LL KNOW THEY'LL BE ABLE TO INITIATE SERVICE REQUESTS AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO REPORT ISSUES THROUGH THAT AS WELL. NOW, RESIDENTS COULD ALSO STILL USE OUR OUR APP AS WELL. IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT SWAPPING ONE OUT FOR THE OTHER, JUST PROVIDING ANOTHER AVENUE WHERE IT'LL GO EITHER TO US OR DIRECTLY TO THE PUBLIC. BUT EITHER WAY WE'LL BE ABLE TO, WE HOPE WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST OUR RESIDENTS A LOT BETTER. I'VE GOT A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS FOR PARKER. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS. I LOVE IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN KIND OF QUITE THE, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON JUST REALLY VOCAL ABOUT THE TRASH SITUATION. NOW, I DO HAVE QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF OUTREACH, YOU KNOW, MAKING CERTAIN THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I WAS ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I WAS ALWAYS ASKING WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT TRASH. THERE WAS NO CAMPAIGN. THERE WAS NO REAL OUTREACH THAT LET PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO. THIS IS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING WHAT KIND OF IDEA WE'RE HAVING ABOUT THAT. BUT THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS THERE'S GOING TO BE TIMES WHERE I LIVE IN A QUADRANT. I'M JUST SAYING, I LIVE IN A QUADRANT, AND I. THERE'S A MOVE OUT. WELL, THERE'S A AND I SAW THAT PART WHERE IT SAYS DISCONTINUED PICKUP. YOU'RE SAYING DISCONTINUE PICKUP BASED ON CALL IN YOU WANT. BUT IF I'M, IF I'M IF I'M ABOUT TO MOVE OUT BECAUSE I HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN, YOU KNOW, FROM REAL ESTATE, PEOPLE MOVE OUT ALL THE TIME. THEY COULDN'T BRUSH OUT WHERE THEY'RE HAVING TO CALL IT IN IN THIS NEW DYNAMIC, NEW WAY OF DOING THINGS. THEY'RE BASED ON THAT STATEMENT, OR YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CALL IN AND SAY, I'M ABOUT TO DO A MOVE OUT. YOU KNOW, I GET IT, I GET IT. JUST WHAT I'M SAYING. SO WHEN WE USE THE WORD DISCONTINUED. I THINK WE MAY NEED TO HAVE SOME SOME TWEAKING, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS, BECAUSE THEIR MOVE OUTS HAPPEN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH, MIDDLE OF THE MONTH, END OF THE MONTH. YOU KNOW, YOU YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE QUADRANT, THE QUADRANT DESIGNATION, IF I'M MOVING OUT OR MOVING OUT, I'M JUST GOING TO I'M JUST GOING TO SET IT OUT. AND SO WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT NOTIFICATION SO THAT THE SO THAT THE BULK WOULDN'T JUST SIT THERE UNTIL THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO WEEKS. SO YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE THE RESIDENCE AWARE THAT IF, IF YOU'RE MOVING OUT RIGHT NOW, THE OTHER OTHER PART OF THE MOVE OUT IS THIS YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE A VALID ACCOUNT, RIGHT, RIGHT AT THAT AT THAT LOCATION FOR US TO PICK IT UP UNDER NORMAL SERVICE. EXACTLY. OTHERWISE IT'S A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE. AT THAT POINT, IT BECOMES IT BECOMES A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL DUMPING AT THAT POINT. IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ORDER ACCOUNT, YOU CAN'T JUST SET OUT ON THE ON THE ON THE CURB. SO. RIGHT. AND NO, THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE ARE DOING THAT. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU SAY, WELL, THERE'S NO WATER ACCOUNT THERE, SO WHO'S GOING TO PICK IT UP? WHO'S GOING TO DO WHAT? BUT IF THEY KNOW AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY MOVE OUT, THEN YOU NEED TO KEEP THE WATER ON UNTIL THIS BRUSH IS PICKED UP OR THIS WHATEVER IS PICKED UP, IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNOWS. YEAH, IT'S ALL ABOUT OUTREACH. SO I'M A BIG PROPONENT FOR OUTREACH. HOWEVER, WE DO THIS TO PUT IT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR WHAT THEIR STEPS ARE, AS OPPOSED TO US EXPECTING THEM TO JUST KNOW. CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN AND NOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IF, IF PEOPLE MOVE OUT AND THEY MOVE OUT IN ORDER, RIGHT. AND THEY CALL THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND SAY, HEY, I NEED TO HAVE MY SERVICE DISCONNECTED ON THIS DATE, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU TO THE BILLING TEAM, SAY, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, HEY, SINCE YOU IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE MOVING OUT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO IF YOU ARE YOU GOING TO BE PLACING ANY DEBRIS OUT? OR IF YOU DO, YOU NEED TO CALL IN AND LET US KNOW SO WE CAN HAVE THAT PICKED UP. SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN WE CAN WORK ON. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU KIND OF THINKING BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING. JUST MAYBE THINKING AHEAD OF THE GAME AND SAYING SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH TRASH JUST SITTING OUT, AND NOBODY'S REALLY RESPONSIBLE AT THAT POINT. RIGHT? YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WELL, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. OKAY. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HEARING US ALL. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN BOMBARDED BY EACH OF US ABOUT THE ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY [04:25:04] AROUND THIS TRASH PICKUP, BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN HEAVY. SO I THINK IN YOUR COMMUNICATION STYLE, I WOULD I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL SPOKE. WE LISTENED. RIGHT. YEAH. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT A RESIDENT WANTS TO HEAR. THEIR THEIR CITY LISTEN TO NOT JUST THE LOUDEST ONE, BUT. ALL RIGHT. AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE YOU FOR MAKING TIME TO HAVE THE MEETING AND FOR YOU TO, MISTER GODFREY, BECAUSE YOU WERE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, A PART OF THAT AS WELL. AND SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN PRESSING IN AND NOT JUST TAKING A PASSIVE ROUTE WITH REPUBLIC AND DEMANDING MORE. I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. SO I WANT TO FOR THIS QUADRANT CONVERSATION. IT PUTS ME IN THE MIND CURRENTLY OF LIKE HOW WE LIKE HOW OUR POLICES. THE CITY IS DIVIDED INTO FOUR SECTIONS, AND EACH QUADRANT HAS SOMEBODY THAT REPORTS ARE WHEN YOU SAY QUADRANT ARE, YOU'RE INDICATING THAT THERE WOULD BE A WEEK DEDICATED TO EACH SIDE OF THE CITY, RIGHT WHERE I KNOW THAT I'M IN THE FAR SOUTHWEST PART OF DESOTO. SO MY WEEK IS WEEK THREE, AND EVERY WEEK THREE, I NEED TO HAVE MY BULK TRASH OUT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE TIME OF THE MONTH THAT MY TRASH IS GOING TO BE COLLECTED. YES. OKAY. AND I AND I ACTUALLY CAN APPRECIATE THAT METHOD. I ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT OF YOU CALLING OUT THAT THERE ARE SOME TECHNICAL OPTIONS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE MILLENNIALS. BEING IN THAT AVERAGE AGE GROUP, I CAN APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO GO TO THE APP. I ACTUALLY USE THE GO TO SOTO APP QUITE FREQUENTLY. I WAS CURIOUS, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO TAP INTO THEIR API TO PROVIDE OUR RESIDENTS NOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO MULTIPLE APPS, BUT TO JUST GO TO DESOTO AND SEE THE TRASH AND BE ABLE TO TAKE THEM TO THE WEBSITE SO THAT THEY COULD DO THE WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO AND BE ABLE TO GET WHATEVER NOTIFICATIONS. PERHAPS THEY COULD TALK BACK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO US. RIGHT. I'M NOT SURE. I KNOW WE USED TO USE API IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT BECAUSE I GET YOUR POINT. IT GIVES THE RESIDENTS ONE LOCATION TO GO TO, BUT BUT TO GET TO MULTIPLE AVENUES. SO I DO. BUT WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT THOUGH. THANK YOU. AND LASTLY, WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THIS NEW NEW MODEL. WHAT IS THE PROPOSED START TIME FOR THIS? SO I DO ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE MORE SLIDES BUT OH OKAY. BUT WE ARE OKAY. THAT'S WHY I ASKED WHAT WAS THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT. NO, WE DON'T WAIT TILL THE END. OH NO THAT'S FINE, THAT'S FINE. I MAY NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THOSE OTHER SLIDES, BUT OCTOBER WE'RE LOOKING AT OCTOBER 1ST, SO WE ARE. THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WORK WITH REPUBLIC AND WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO PUT TOGETHER A ROBUST COMMUNICATION PLAN, ROBUST. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THAT OUT. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OCTOBER 1ST IMPLEMENTING IMPLEMENTING. AND AND WE MAY WE MAY PILOT A COUPLE OF A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS EAST OF POLK STREET WILL PICK A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO PILOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT GOT USED TO THE MODEL ITSELF BEFORE WE UNVEIL IT. BUT THE ROBUST PLAN IS GOING TO BE ABOUT NOT ONLY THE MAPPING, YOU'LL SEE THE DIFFERENT QUARTERS. AND THEY REALLY ARE NOT QUARTERS THAT ARE KIND OF LONGITUDINAL QUARTERS, BUT THEY HAVE DEFINITE LIMITATIONS ALONG THE LINE OF A MAJOR STREET. SO THERE WILL BE SOME, SOME A LOT MORE CLARITY INTO THAT. THEIR APPLICATION. THE REPUBLIC APPLICATION IS OF GREAT HELP. IT GIVES YOU FULL DETAILS ABOUT WHEN YOU PICK UP, IF YOU'VE GOTTEN PICKED UP, IF YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES AND IT GOES STRAIGHT TO THEM. SO AND WHAT WE PROPOSE IN THE COORDINATOR POSITION THAT PERSON IS GOING TO COORDINATE EVERYTHING WITH THE REPUBLIC AND ENSURE THAT IF THERE'S ANY CONCERN, THERE'S THERE IS A RESPONSE OF, OF NO MORE THAN A COUPLE OF HOURS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE DYNAMIC THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ENHANCE. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. AND MY COLLEAGUE MAYOR PRO TEM WAS SOMEWHAT ASKING WHERE SHE THE SAME LINE OF THOUGHT WITH THE QUADRANTS BECAUSE MY CONCERN THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE THAT FIRST CAME TO MIND IS WITH THE QUADRANTS AND THEM HAVING A SET WEEK IS AGAIN, IF THERE'S NOT COMMUNICATION, SOMEBODY WHO MISSED THEIR WEEK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH SAYS THEIR STUFF RIGHT AFTER THAT, AND THEN THEIR STUFF IS SITTING OUT FOR THREE WEEKS TILL THEY GET BACK TO THEIR TIME. SO THAT WAS THAT'S MY QUESTION. AND YOU SOMEWHAT TOUCHED ON IT TO MR. CITY MANAGER, HOW MANY QUADRANTS WILL WE BE HAVING? ARE WE THINKING JUST ONE PER WEEK. IS THAT THE THE THOUGHT PROCESS? YEAH. SO THERE IS A FLIP SIDE TO THAT. RIGHT. SO FOUR QUADRANTS FOUR WEEKS IN A MONTH GENERALLY. SO EACH EACH SECTION WILL HAVE THEIR PARTICULAR WEEK. SO THE EXPECTATION IS AND WE HAVE TO MANAGE THIS THAT YOU'RE NOT SETTING BRUSH OUT WHEN [04:30:05] IT'S NOT YOUR WEEK. SO THAT WILL BE WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT HELP US AS WELL. IF WE'VE GOT PEOPLE PLACING BRUSH OUT AND IT'S NOT THEIR WEEK TO PLACE IT OUT, THEN THAT THAT THAT CREATES AN ISSUE TOO. SO WE'LL HAVE TO MANAGE THAT. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. AND BECAUSE SOMETIMES IF I HAVE BRUSH, I CUT MY TREES DOWN. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH IT UNTIL IT'S MY TURN? RIGHT? AM I SUPPOSED TO PUT IT IN MY SIDE? AND LIKE, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH IT? SO I THINK THAT CREATES A CHALLENGE FOR RESIDENTS. IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT DO THEY DO WITH IT? AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE SOME SOME OPTIONS. NOW, I WAS TALKING TO MY COLLEAGUES A WHILE BACK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I HEARD DUNCANVILLE DID WHEN THEY ROLLED OUT THEIR CARTS. WHICH I WISH WE WOULD HAVE BEEN THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES, BECAUSE IT MAY EVEN WORK FOR THIS IN THIS INSTANCE. BUT JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. THEY ROLLED OUT A PILOT VERSUS RELEASING IT TO THE WHOLE CITY. THEY DID LIKE A SOFT LUNCH, AND THEY DID A FEW AREAS IN THE CITY TO ROLL THEM OUT TO, AND THEN WORKED OUT THE KINKS ON A SMALLER LEVEL BEFORE ROLLING IT OUT CITYWIDE. AND THAT ALLOWED THEM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A SMALLER CONTROLLED AREA. SO IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH IT, WHICH THEY DID, YOU KNOW, DISCOVERS THEM AS THEY, AS THEY WOULD THEY COULD FIX IT ON A VERY SMALLER LEVEL THAN EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY WITH THESE SAME ISSUES. SO MAYBE THAT'S A THOUGHT PROCESS WITH THIS PARTICULAR CHANGE, BECAUSE I'M JUST SITTING HERE AND I'M THINKING I WOULD BE I WOULD BE FEELING THE TYPE OF WAY IF I HAVE TO TRY TO FIND SOMETHING TO DO, I CUT A TREE DOWN OR CUT MY LIMBS AND GOTTA TRY TO FIND SOMETHING TO DO WITH THEM FOR THREE WEEKS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN FOR ME AS A RESIDENT. WELL, AND YOU'RE CORRECT, MAYOR, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND LIKE THE CITY MANAGER DID MENTION WE AND ON MY OTHER SLIDE, WE DO INTEND TO DO WE GOING TO LET YOU GET WE WE DO INTEND TO WE DID WE DO INTEND TO DO A PILOT TO KIND OF TEST IT OUT AND MAKE SURE IT'S EFFICIENT AND OPERATING. WE WANT TO GET YOU, GET YOU THROUGH YOUR SCHOOL. BUT THAT'S ALSO IN LINE WITH THE WITH THE MOVE OUTS SITUATION. RIGHT. I GOT TO ASK MY QUESTION BEFORE YOU GET TO YOUR LAST SLIDE. ARE WE GETTING RID OF DATE OF GOLIATH AND GOING BACK TO LITTLE DAVID? I LOVE OUR LITTLE TRASH CANS BECAUSE THAT IS A THAT'S A BEAUTIFICATION PROBLEM AS WELL. THE BIG TRASH RECEPTACLES. I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING THERE, MADAM MAYOR. THEY'RE SO LARGE THAT THEY DON'T FIT IN GARAGES. SO? SO. WELL, WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION? OR DID YOU GET. IS THAT ON YOUR SLIDE? NO, IT'S NOT ON THE SLIDE. BUT I WOULD TELL YOU THIS THOUGH, WE DID HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC. WHAT THEY NEED TO KNOW IS WHAT WHAT THE WHAT WHAT'S THE VOLUME OF CUSTOMERS WE'RE LOOKING AT WHO MAY WANT TO HAVE THAT? BECAUSE FOR THEM, IT WOULD BE IF IT'S IF IT'S A FEW, MAYBE A THOUSAND OR SO, IT'S MANAGEABLE. BUT BUT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, IF IT'S IF IT'S IF IT'S THE ENTIRE POPULATION OR HALF THE POPULATION, THEN THAT, THAT THAT MAY CREATE SOME CHALLENGES FOR THEM. AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO EXACTLY WHY AT THE MOMENT, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON IT. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WITH THEM AS WELL, THEY MENTIONED THEY HAVE A SURVEY THAT THEY WANT TO PUT OUT, AND PART OF THAT SURVEY WILL BE THAT QUESTION. AND SO FROM THE FROM THE RESPONSES, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GAUGE WHAT THAT YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT DEMAND IS. YOU KNOW, AND PARTICULARLY IS IT IS IT SOME OF OUR ELDERLY PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THOSE OBVIOUSLY. YEAH. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE HELP THOSE. BUT SO THERE ARE SOME SOME LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES WITH THAT. BUT AS WE LOOK AT THAT, MR. CAMERON, AS WE LOOK AT IT, I WOULD SAY THAT IT IS AND I UNDERSTAND THE SURVEY, BUT IT REALLY TRYING TO SOLVE ONE PROBLEM. WE CREATED ANOTHER PROBLEM WHEN THIS WAS ROLLED OUT. I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY BEING VOCAL ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE WERE WE WERE WE ROLLED IT OUT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WOULD BE AN UNMANNED TRUCK. THAT AND WE NEEDED TO GO TO THE LARGER RECIPROCALS BECAUSE OF OUR CONTAINERS, BECAUSE THE TRUCK WILL COME IN AUTOMATICALLY, PICK IT UP AND DUMP IT. THEN WE REALIZED THAT WE HAD A PROBLEM WITH WITH OUR WITH THE SIZE OF THE TRUCK AND THE ALLEYS. AND NOW I KNOW IN MY AREA I LOVE MY REPUBLIC PERSON, BUT THEY NOW TAKE THE DEAL. THEY, THE GUYS STILL HAVE TO GET OFF THE TRUCK AND BRING IT TO THE TRUCK AND PUT IT IN THIS ARM. THE ARM DOES IT. AND AND SO I THINK THAT FOR OUR CITY COLLECTIVELY THESE BIG, THESE BIG CONTAINERS IS, IS, IS IS PRESENTING A PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PULL THEM IN THE GARAGE IF YOU LEAVE THEM OUTSIDE, YOU GET DINGED BY YOUR HOA. AND SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE US TO PUT SOME ENERGY AND THOUGHT INTO HOW DO WE RESOLVE IT. NOT ANOTHER SURVEY. AGAIN, GOING BACK TO WHAT THE MAYOR A REFERENCE. DUNCANVILLE DID A GREAT JOB EVEN WITH THOSE RECIPROCALS HAVING A TEST, [04:35:03] A TEST RUN. AND I KNOW THAT WE PROBABLY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON DISTRIBUTING THEM THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY, BUT I THINK IT IS AN EYESORE FOR THE WHOLE CITY AS WELL AS THE BRUSH. BECAUSE NOW WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE OUR RESIDENTS COULD PULL THEM IN AND DO SOMETHING. NOW MOST RESIDENTS ARE HAVING TO LEAVE THEM OUTSIDE. SO JUST A THOUGHT AS WE WORKING THROUGH THE PROBLEM, IF WE COULD WORK THROUGH THAT OKAY. AND WE TALKED YESTERDAY TO THEM IN SPECIFIC ON, ON REPLACING THE 96 GALLON WITH THE, WITH THE 64 GALLONS. THE I THINK THE CONCERN IS ABOUT THE 17,000 ACCOUNTS. I THINK THAT'S WHERE THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN MANAGE THE NUMBER, WHETHER IT'S ABOUT 1700 OR 2000, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY WOULD WANT A SMALL ONE, I TELL YOU. I JUST, YOU KNOW SO PART OF THAT IS IF IF WE GET TO REPLACE THEM WITH A SMALL ONE, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE THE SAME COST. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A REDUCED COST. SO THAT'S, THAT'S YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T KIND OF PICK AND CHOOSE SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO BE VERY CONSISTENT. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING TO BE A 64 GALLON, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE CHARGED THE SAME THING. AND SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE TOLD THEM WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT. NOW WE DIDN'T GET INTO A LOT OF DETAILS WITH THEM ON THAT. AND THAT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO. AND LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE CUSTOMERS WHO REALLY WANT THE SMALLER UNITS VERSUS THE LARGER UNITS. AND WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT IF YOU WANT TO USE A RECYCLE, YOU KNOW, A RECYCLABLE CAN VERSUS, OH, I DON'T WANT TO USE A RECYCLABLE CAN. GIVE ME ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, GIVE ME ANOTHER TRASH CAN. WELL, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, TRASH IS DIFFERENT THAN RECYCLABLE. AND IT'S ALL BASED ON, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THEY, THEY TAKE INTO THE LANDFILL SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION, AND I KNOW WE DISCUSSED IT, SO THERE'S THOSE QUADRANTS THAT WE THAT WE SET UP THAT'S GOING TO BE THE, ONCE AMONG THE PICKUP AND THE PEAK MONTH. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO A TWO PER MONTH PICKUP CORRECT ITEM. THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED. HOWEVER, IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL PICKUP TO MOVE OUT, THERE'S STILL THAT ON CALL THAT STILL WILL EXIST. SO THEY WILL HAVE TO CALL A REPUBLIC AND THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT SERVICE. SO IF YOU IF YOU WANT AN ADDITIONAL NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ONE ON CALL FOR FREE. AND THEN AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS, IS IS A CHARGE OF, I THINK $25 A CUBIC YARD. THAT WILL NOT CHANGE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT US TO SEE THE COMMUNITY JUST PUT IN PUT IN BULK EVERY SINGLE WEEK. THAT WILL NEVER GET AHEAD OF THIS. WE'RE NO DIFFERENT THAN OTHER CITIES, INCLUDING THE CITY OF DALLAS, FOR THAT MATTER. THEY PICK UP ONE, YOU KNOW, ONCE A MONTH. AND IF YOU PUT IN A BULK AND CODE COMPLIANCE COMES IN AND THEY CITE YOU, THEY'LL COME AND PICK IT UP AND CHARGE YOU. SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. AND I THINK FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS ALSO WORKING WITH US. SO SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO ALSO KIND OF STICK TO THAT SCHEDULE AND MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU ARE MOVING OUT, YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO CALL A REPUBLIC TO GET PICKED UP AND YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT. IF THAT'S NOT WITHIN YOUR CYCLE. YEAH, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A CONSTANT COMMUNICATION TO MAKE SURE THAT RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THAT. AND LIKE YOU SAID, AT THAT POINT, IT THEN BECOMES ON THE RESIDENT TO BE COGNIZANT OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND TO BE MORE TO BE MORE SELECTIVE WITH WHAT THEY DO. I THINK THE RESIDENTS OF DESOTO, MYSELF INCLUDED, I AM SHE AND SHE IS ME. WE'VE GOTTEN USED TO HAVING THE CADILLAC PACKAGE WHEN IT COMES TO OUR TRASH, BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBOR, MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES, YOU GET ONE TIME A WEEK, AND IF YOU DON'T GET IT ON THAT ONE, THAT'S IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN USED TO A LEVEL OF LUXURY AS IT PERTAINS TO OUR TRASH SERVICES. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY BE A CONSTANT LEVEL OF PICKUP. MY ORIGINAL QUESTION, THOUGH, WAS, I MEAN, A CONSTANT FORM OF COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE TYPES OF CHANGES AND THOSE FEES. MY ORIGINAL QUESTION WAS ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE CONTEXT TO THE ISSUE OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THE LARGER CANS. RIGHT? BECAUSE I, FOR ONE, HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MY CAN I, I DON'T I HAVE ONE CAR SO MY OTHER SIDE OF MY GARAGE, THAT'S WHERE I PUT MY CANS AND IT'S NO PROBLEM. RIGHT? I KNOW MANY PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF THAT HAVE NO ISSUES WITH IT, SO I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME THAT IT'S A WIDESPREAD ISSUE. IT MAY BE THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE IN CONTACT WITH BASED ON WHERE WE LIVE AT. I KNOW I STAY ACROSS THE STREET FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THE THE UNITS ARE SMALLER. SO THEY'RE THEY THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SPACE. THE MOST OF THEM ARE ONE CAR GARAGES. [04:40:02] SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXTRA SPACE INSIDE THE GARAGE. SO THAT PARTICULAR AREA OBVIOUSLY IS A PAIN POINT WHEN IT COMES TO NOT HAVING A PLACE TO STORE THE CANS, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO ASSUME THAT'S EVERYBODY. SOME PEOPLE WERE STORING THEIR STUFF OUTSIDE JUST BECAUSE THAT WAS THEIR PREFERENCE. THEY DON'T LIKE TRASH INSIDE THE GARAGE, BUT NOT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIT RIGHT. SO I WOULD WANT US TO EXPLORE WAYS TO ACTUALLY SEE HOW WIDESPREAD THAT IS ACROSS THE CITY. IN TERMS OF ARE WE TALKING 17,000 CANS OR ARE WE TALKING 1700? RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE GOING WITH THAT SURVEY. RIGHT. THAT THEY WANT TO PUT OUT TO, TO KIND OF HELP US GET CONTEXT TO IT BECAUSE WE I, WE'RE, WE'RE SPECULATING RIGHT NOW ON JUST HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE ISSUES WITH THE CANS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION. COUNCILMAN WATERS JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. NEXT TIME YOU ALL HAVE A MEETING WITH THIS REPUBLIC, TELL THEM THAT THERE'S A DESIGN FLAW IN THESE, WHAT DO YOU CALL THEM? THESE TRASH BINS IS A DESIGN FLAW. LET ME TELL YOU WHY. OKAY? WE KEEP OURS AT, LIKE, OUTSIDE. BECAUSE WE HAVE ALLEYWAY, RIGHT? WELL, WHEN THEY DUMP THE TRASH IN THE, THEY WILL COME PICK IT UP. NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, THAT LID IS OPEN, RIGHT? WELL, WHEN IT RAINS, GUESS WHAT? WATER GETS ALL UP IN THERE. NOW, WHAT IS UP HAPPENING IS. AND I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT, BECAUSE I PUT MY TRASH OUT WHEN THEY WAS JUST DRIVING UP. I RAN OUT AND DID IT. IT WAS A DAY THAT HAD RAINED THE NIGHT BEFORE. AND THAT TRASH TRUCK WAS FULL OF WATER LEAKING WATER EVERYWHERE ALL DOWN THE ROAD. AND HALF, HALF OF MY WATER, HALF OF MY TRASH BIN HAD WATER IN IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY WAS DUMPING IT. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO THE DESIGN FLAW, ALL YOU GOT TO DO WAS TELL THEM DRILL A FEW HOLES IN A BOTTLE. PROBLEM SOLVED. SO JUST PUT THAT BUG IN YOUR EAR. YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT TOO. AND BEFORE I GO TO YOU, BEFORE YOU GO TO YOUR NEXT SLIDE, I DO WANT TO HAVE THE QUESTION ABOUT THE APP. WHILE I MAY NOT BE A MILLENNIAL, I'M A GEN XER. I'M THE ANOMALY. I LOVE COMPUTERS, I LOVE IT. SO I LOVE APPS, SO I LIKE THE APP IDEA. BUT JUST RECENTLY WE HAVE THE ISSUE WHERE REPUBLIC HAD ONE WAY AND THE CITY SAID SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND I WOULD HATE FOR US TO GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE USING THE APP, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY GET ONE THING AND THE CITY IS SAYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SO CAN WE MAKE CERTAIN THAT THOSE TWO COLLIDE WITH ONE ANOTHER? ABSOLUTELY. WE THAT TAUGHT US A LESSON. SO WE'LL WE'LL HAVE THE WE'LL MAKE SURE WE MANAGE THAT COMMUNICATION SO THAT ANY COMMUNICATION THAT COMES OUT, YOU KNOW, IT COMES FROM US. AND THEN WE IF EVEN IF REPUBLIC, YOU KNOW, PUSHES IT OUT TO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE SET THE TONE FOR WHAT THE WHAT THE THANK YOU WHAT THE CONVERSATION WILL BE. SO MY NEXT SLIDE. SO AND WE KIND OF ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THESE, BUT THIS IS JUST WE TALKED ABOUT CREATING A SOLID WASTE COORDINATOR POSITION. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT KIND OF DEAL WITH SOLID WASTE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE ACTION CENTER LADIES WHO DO A GREAT JOB. WE HAVE INSPECTOR LEWIS, WHO WORKS WITH. BUT NOBODY NOBODY'S DEDICATED TO IT ALL THE TIME. AND THAT'S WHAT IT NEEDS. WE NEED SOMEBODY DEDICATED TO IT. IT'S GOING TO BE FULL TIME OR PART TIME? PART. I'M SORRY. FULL TIME. FULL TIME. OKAY. AND SO? SO THIS PERSON WILL ACT AS A POINT OF CONTACT, YOU KNOW, COORDINATE WITH THE PUBLIC, THE RESIDENTS ACTION CENTER AND OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS. YOU KNOW, HELP WITH COMPLAINTS AND AND ALL OF THAT OTHER STUFF. AND THEY'LL BE FUNDED IN THE SANITATION BUDGET. AND OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE HEARD FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW ABOUT THE REQUEST FOR A SECOND STREET SWEEPER. SO WE'RE PUTTING THAT SECOND SECOND VEHICLE AND SECOND POSITION INTO THE BUDGET AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE. AND THAT'S JUST THE IMPACT TO THE BUDGET. RIGHT THERE WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL 450 FOR THOSE TWO POSITIONS AND THAT AND THAT EQUIPMENT. SO NEXT STEPS WILL FINALIZE THE PLAN FOR BULK AND BRUSH. AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT THE PILOT PROGRAM THAT YOU GUYS MENTIONED. AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING EFFECTIVE WITH IT, WORK ON THE COMMUNICATION PLAN WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AS WELL AS WITH THE PUBLIC. AND THAT'LL PROBABLY THAT'LL PROBABLY ALSO INVOLVE SOME TOWN HALL OR TWO SO THAT WE CAN GET GET THE GET THE PUBLIC ENGAGED IN THAT AS WELL. AND THEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING IT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON BASED ON THE PILOT RESULTS, IMPLEMENTING IT IN OCTOBER 1ST, 2025. CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION TO THE POINT THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SURVEY? MAYBE WE USE OUR HOMES TO TO DO THE SURVEY. MAYBE YOU ADD TO THE MAYOR'S POINT. WHERE? WHERE SHE LIVES. [04:45:01] YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE TWO TRUTHS. YOU KNOW, HER NEIGHBORHOOD MIGHT BE FINE WITH THE LARGER ONES. I KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS STILL IN MY DISTRICT, IS NOT FINE WITH THE LARGER ONE. SO MAYBE WE CAN GO TO THE HOS AND HAVE A HAVE. HAVE HAVE THAT THAT SURVEY DONE. AND MAYBE WE CAN, YOU KNOW ASCERTAIN FROM THAT LEVEL WHETHER THERE IS A PREFERENCE OR NEED. SO THAT JUST HIT ME RIGHT WHILE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THAT IS A I KNOW THAT OF SOME OF, OF I KNOW OF THE SIX HOUSES IN MY AREA THAT I'VE TALKED TO, YOU KNOW. FOUR OF THEM HATE THE LARGER CANS, TWO OF THEM LIKE THEM. SO. RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S A I REALLY LOVE YOUR IDEA. AND PERHAPS WE JUST ADD THE SENIOR CENTER IN FOR MEASURE GOOD MEASURE, BECAUSE MY GUESS IS THAT IT'S MORE OF OUR MORE SEASONED RESIDENTS THAT STRUGGLE WITH THAT HEAVIER CAN VERSUS THOSE WITH LESS SEASON. OKAY. BUT WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND SOME DON'T HAVE HOMES. ABSOLUTELY. SO I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY THAT. OKAY. WELL, WELL, WELL, YOU KNOW. YEAH, BUT BUT BUT THE SURVEY MAILING OF THE SURVEY THAT WILL ALSO WE CAN CAPTURE THE NON HOA PEOPLE WITH GOTCHA WITH THE SURVEY, YOU KNOW. SO JUST PUTTING THE SURVEY OUT PERIOD. AND I'M A BIG PROPONENT FOR HOA. HE'S ALWAYS IT'LL ALWAYS BE ON THE BACK OF MY MIND. BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ALSO MEETING THAT THAT DON'T USE THE SENIOR CENTER, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN 90 DAYS THAT DON'T USE THE SENIOR CENTER, RIGHT? SO IF YOU PUT THE SURVEY OUT, JUST PUT THE SURVEY OUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S TO EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, AND I LIKE THAT IDEA. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD GOOD LUCK WITH SURVEYS. WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN A LARGE SAMPLING OF SURVEYS, SO MAYBE WE NEED IT. THAT IS MY ONLY TREPIDATION WITH JUST PUTTING OUT A BLANKET SURVEY WITHOUT HAVING AN ORGANIZATION OVER IT, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT. WE'VE DONE CITYWIDE SURVEYS WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN 300, 400 RESPONSES, SO I DON'T. I GUESS THE IDEA WAS JUST LET'S THINK ABOUT ANOTHER GRASSROOT EFFORT TO GET IT RATHER RATHER THAN JUST ONE, BECAUSE THE SURVEYS HISTORICALLY JUST PUTTING OUT A SURVEY FOR US, NONE MILLENNIALS OR GEN X THAT MIGHT NOT, WOULD NEVER TAKE A SURVEY, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT NOT EVER MAKE IT DOWN TO US. SPEAKING OF THOSE OF YOU THAT QUALIFY FOR THE SENIOR WATER DISCOUNT. AND MY DISCOUNT AT MCDONALD'S. MY FREE COFFEE. YES, MA'AM. YES. THEY'RE NOT MUTUALLY MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. WE CAN DO BOTH. WE CAN DO BOTH. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN NORTH. YES. AND CAN WE ALSO, IN ADDITION TO THAT, CONSIDER THOSE THAT HAVE DISABILITIES, BECAUSE THEY MAY TOO. ARE THOSE CONTAINERS THAT ARE VERY HEAVY FOR THEM? MAYBE WE WANT TO CONSIDER ALTERNATIVES THAT WOULD BE EASIER FOR THAT POPULATION AS WELL. SO, SO FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DISABILITIES OR OR CHALLENGES THAT CAUSE GIVE THEM ISSUES WITH MANIPULATING OR MANAGING THAT THAT TRASH, WE DO HAVE WHAT WE CALL A BACK DOOR SERVICE THAT REPUBLICANS PROVIDES FOR THEM. THEY HAVE SIGN UP FOR IT AND THEN THEY'LL THEY THEY THE CARD IS PLACED OUT WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN GET IT LEFT IN A PLACE WHERE REPUBLIC CAN ACCESS IT, AND THEY GET OUT OF THE TRUCK OR AND THEY GO GET IT, BRING IT DOWN. AND THEN THEY TAKE EMPTY AND THEN TAKE IT BACK SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR THAT. HEY, MADAM MAYOR I'M SORRY, IS THIS. I KNOW WE WEREN'T DOING A CONSENSUS ON THIS AT ALL, BUT DOES THIS MAKE ANY CHANGE TO THE BUDGET AT ALL? MR. CAMERON IT DOES, BUT WE WE IT WAS WE GAVE THAT INFORMATION TO THE PROPOSAL FOR THE TWO POSITIONS AND THE. OH, AND THE EQUIPMENT. WE GAVE THAT INFORMATION TO THE RATE CONSULTANT. SO WHEN THEY PLUGGED IN THAT INFORMATION TO THE MODEL, IT WAS ACCOUNTED FOR WITH THAT, WITH THAT RECOMMENDED INCREASE THAT THEY RECORDED THE $3. YES. OKAY. OKAY. COUNCIL. I'M LOOKING AT TIME. I DID WANT TO THROW OUT SOMETHING AGAIN. I'M ALWAYS LOOKING AT THINGS OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES ARE DOING TO GET THE WORD OUT. AND WE MIGHT WANT TO GET BACK TO. I HEARD SOMEBODY USED THE WORD GRASSROOTS AND I, I WELL, I GUESS I COULD SAY THE NAME. I HAVE A RELATIVE THAT LIVES IN CEDAR HILL, AND SHE ACTUALLY GOT A KNOCK ON THE DOOR FROM THE FIRE CHIEF. CAME AND KNOCKED ON HER DOOR TO ASK HER ABOUT A NEIGHBORHOOD SURVEY THEY WERE DOING. AND THEY WERE LITERALLY GOING. THE MAYOR, THE FIRE CHIEF. THE POLICE CHIEF, I THINK. I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS A POLICE CHIEF. I JUST KNOW SHE SAID IT WAS THE FIRE CHIEF OR SOMEBODY. SHE MIGHT HAVE ASSUMED IT WAS THE FIRE CHIEF. MAYBE IT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE. I DON'T KNOW, BUT THEY WERE ACTUALLY DOING IT, AND I. AND I THINK I'VE HEARD THEM TALK ABOUT THIS BEFORE. EVERY NOW AND THEN THEY WILL ACTUALLY GO DOOR TO DOOR AND TALK ABOUT THINGS, [04:50:01] ASK QUESTIONS, MAKE SURE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO MAYBE THAT'S AN EFFORT THAT WE ALL GET INVOLVED IN. AND MAYBE, MAYBE RECRUIT SOME NEIGHBORHOOD AMBASSADORS TO DO THAT WITHIN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M JUST KIND OF THINKING, BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT OUTREACH EFFORTS, AND WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH AND STAFF CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT JUST FROM A HOUSEHOLD LEVEL, YOU TALK ABOUT 17,000 DOORS. IT'S JUST NO AMOUNT OF SURVEYS, NO AMOUNT OF FACEBOOK ADS, NO AMOUNT OF ANYTHING THAT CAN REACH THAT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. AND SO MAYBE THERE'S A MORE CONCERTED EFFORT TO PUT THE HUMAN TOUCH BACK IN THINGS, BECAUSE I KNOW IF I GET A SURVEY LINK, I'M PROBABLY NOT GOING TO CLICK IT. THAT'S JUST THE, YOU KNOW, WE GET IS BOMBARDED WITH SO MANY EMAILS AND SO MANY CLICK THIS CLICK THAT. MOST PEOPLE JUST DON'T EVEN PAY IT ANY ATTENTION. BUT IT WOULD GET MY ATTENTION IF SOMEBODY CAME TO MY DOOR. AND EVEN IF I DIDN'T ANSWER THE DOOR, IF THEY LEFT A DOOR HANGER WITH A QR CODE AND SAID, HEY, WE DROPPED BY TO ASK YOU THESE QUESTIONS OR JUST TO SEE HOW YOU, YOU KNOW, YOUR SATISFACTION LEVEL OR WHATEVER IT IS, MAYBE WE COULD START GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE ENGAGEMENT TO, TO SEE BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE SEEN DONE BEFORE AND IT WOULD GET MY ATTENTION. I'M QUITE SURE IF WE DO THAT, WE CAN GET REPUBLICANS KNOCK ON SOME DOORS WITH US WITH SOME DOORS, TOO. BUT EVEN FROM A WIDER, WIDER SPREAD EFFORT, MAYBE WE COULD AGAIN INVOKE OUR HOMES OR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO HELP US WITH THAT. EVERYBODY COULD WORK THEIR STREET, RIGHT? LIKE WE COULD PUT TOGETHER PACKETS AGAIN, KIND OF MAYBE A OUTREACH AND A BOX. YEAH. SO WHERE WE GIVE THEM WHAT THEY NEED TO DO OR GIVE THEM A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DOOR HANGERS AND ASK EVERYBODY TO WALK THEIR STREET AND KNOCK ON THEIR DOORS TO LET THEIR NEIGHBORS KNOW ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE. AND MAYBE THAT'S THE WAY WE START GETTING A LOT OF OUR INFORMATION OUT, IS JUST GIVING EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABILITY TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR CITY, AND NOT ALWAYS PUTTING IT ON THE SEVEN PEOPLE THAT SIT UP HERE OR STAFF OR, YOU KNOW, A CONSULTANT TO GET OUT THERE, BUT LETS EVERYBODY GET BACK ENGAGED IN WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR CITY BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT THEY DON'T LIKE IT. USUALLY THAT'S WHEN WE HEAR FROM THEM. BUT WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP THEM ENGAGED AND GIVING US FEEDBACK BEFORE WE GET TO THE LEVEL OF A COMPLAINT. THEY CAN GIVE US THEIR FEEDBACK AND WE CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE AND START HEARING WHAT THE ISSUES ARE BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT SOMETHING WIDESPREAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, IT'S JUST THAT ON THAT JUST A LITTLE COMMENT. NOW BEING DEBORAH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A BUNCH OF MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, AND ANYWAY DEBORAH CAME BY, SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE GOT CHIT CHAT AND SHE SAID, HEY, YOU EVER BEEN TO THIS CEDAR HILL LIBRARY? HE SAID, I SAID NO, AND SHE SAID, LET IT GO. SO WE HAD TO SEE TO HER LIBRARY. NOW WE GOT A CHANCE TO TALK TO THEM OVER THERE. RIGHT. AND SHE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO? THEY GET THEY DON'T STOP UNTIL THEY GET. AT LEAST THEY GOT, WHAT, 3000 PEOPLE ON THEIR SURVEY, THEY KNOW DOING ALL KINDS OF STUFF TO GET UP TO 3000 THIS SURVEY. WHENEVER THEY WERE, I GUESS, TRYING TO BUILD THIS LIBRARY, WORLD CLASS LIBRARY THEY HAVE. IT WAS LIKE, WELL, WE STOP AT 300. SO MY POINT IS, MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE SOME NOTE FROM CEDAR HILL. RIGHT? OKAY. AND KEEP GOING UNTIL YOU HAVE AT LEAST KNOW X AMOUNT. OKAY, 3000 OR WHATEVER IT IS LIKE FOR US, MAYBE 5000. WHO KNOWS. JUST BRING THAT UP AND THANKS. THANK YOU DEBORAH. THAT WAS A GREAT TOUR. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER WARD. YEAH. AND AND, MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD HOPE THAT FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WE ALSO ASKED FOR PUBLIC BECAUSE WHEN THEY FIRST PUT THE TRASH CANS OUT, THERE WAS A SOME TYPE OF OUTREACH AT THAT POINT WHEN THEY PUT THE TRASH CANS OUT. MAYBE TO ALSO HELP WITH THAT AS FAR AS PUTTING IT ON THE TRASH CAN, BECAUSE THE TRASH CAN HAS TO COME BACK INTO THE HOUSE OR BACK TO THE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THAT SURVEY IS ALREADY OUT THERE FROM THAT POINT ON THERE. YEAH. YEAH. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY AS WELL. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. WE HAVE I THINK THOSE DOES THAT INCLUDE YOUR SLIDES. WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE SURE IT NO SLIDE LEFT BEHIND. THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL. THOSE ARE ALL MY SLIDES. THANK YOU FOR THE SLIDE. SO WE ARE AT THE DRAINAGE FUND. THEN WE HAVE CIP. THEN WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OFFICER PROGRAM. THOSE ARE OUR LAST THREE. I WANT TO GET US OUT OF HERE AT A DECENT HOUR. SO WE'RE AIMING FOR 1230. DO WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S DOABLE? COUNCIL. YES. IF WE SAVE OUR QUESTIONS TO THE END AND LET THEM. OKAY. WELL, WE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN GET IT DONE. EVERYBODY HAS COMMITTED TO THAT. SO WE WILL TAKE WE'LL TAKE THE FIRST SLIDE. THANK YOU. THIS THE DRAINAGE FUND IS EASY. SO HERE WE GO. OUR DRAINAGE FUND REVENUES ARE LISTED HERE. ONE THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, 1.625 MILLION. WE HAVE NOT YET UPDATED FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. WE HAVE A FEE CHANGE THAT DID TAKE PLACE. SO WE ARE GOING TO APPLY THAT TO THE REVENUE TO THE FOR THE DRAINAGE FUND. SO WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THOSE CALCULATIONS. WE EXPECT FOR THE PROPOSED REVENUE FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 TO BE APPROXIMATELY 3 MILLION. [04:55:06] ONCE THOSE CHANGES ARE APPLIED. SO THAT WILL BE AN UPDATE TO YOUR BUDGET DOCUMENT. AND THE CORRESPONDING EXPENDITURES ARE LISTED THERE. BY CATEGORY. WE HAVE OUR PERSONNEL SUPPLIES, YOU KNOW, REGULAR SERVICES AND PROFESSIONAL FEES, DEBT SERVICE AND ALSO TRANSFER TO OTHER FUNDS FOR A TOTAL OF 1.2 MILLION PROPOSED FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. WE DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR HIGHLIGHTS TO THE DRAINAGE FUND THIS YEAR. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE DRAINAGE FUND. THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 SHOWS 570 AND THE PROPOSED FOR 2026 WENT DOWN. NOW, I'M NOT PROPOSING THAT THERE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, MORE, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW HOW DID WE GET TO THAT SIGNIFICANT CHANGE? THAT'S LIKE OVER HALF A REDUCTION, WHICH IS GOOD. WHICH IS GOOD. BUT HOW DO WE GET THERE? I MEAN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE PERSONNEL FOR DRAINAGE? GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. CITY MANAGER. WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH THE DNR. REALLY? THE HR DIRECTOR ON ON THOSE NUMBERS. AND WE'RE KIND OF REVISITING ALL THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE REVENUES, EXPENDITURES, INCLUDING PERSONNEL, SO I CAN GET YOU A MORE ACCURATE NUMBER. NEXT WEEK. OKAY. AND WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS, AS FAR AS THE OTHER THING, YOU KNOW, I TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY WITH PROFESSIONAL FEES. WE HAVE LESS PERSONNEL, BUT BRINGING IN MORE CONSULTANTS. I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT. PART TWO. SO CERTAINLY. SO THERE WILL BE CASES. WE WILL ACTUALLY SAVE MONEY IF WE HIRE A CONSULTANT RATHER THAN TO BRING IN AN ENTIRE TEAM. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. FOR BRIDGES, WE CAN HIRE LIKE A COUPLE OF BRIDGE ENGINEERS, AND WE'LL SPEND A LOT OF MONEY FOR THOSE TWO POSITIONS. BUT THERE IS NO NEED TO JUSTIFY TWO POSITIONS FOR BRIDGES, FOR INSTANCE. IT WOULD BE A LOT CHEAPER IF WE ADD 30 K FOR BRIDGE PREPARED DESIGN IF WE NEED TO. AND THAT WAS PART OF OUR PLAN FOR OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES UNDER UNDER ENGINEERING. SAME THING APPLIES WITH THE DRAINAGE. WE CAN BRING AN ENTIRE TEAM OF ENGINEERS, LET'S SAY, TO DEVELOP THE MASTER PLANS, BUT IT WILL COST US A LOT OF MONEY. IF WE WERE TO HIRE A CONSULTANT INSTEAD, THAT WOULD REALLY DEPEND ON THIS SITUATION. A LOT OF TIMES IF IT'S LIKE A VERY SPECIALIZED SERVICE, THEN IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO ACTUALLY HIRE A CONSULTANT RATHER THAN BUILDING A NEW TEAM. AND SOMETIMES IT'S A MATTER OF ONE THING, YOU KNOW. MASTER PLANS. YOU'LL NEED THE MASTER PLAN ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO CREATE A TEAM JUST TO BUILD A A MASTER PLAN. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FOR THREE YEARS, THAT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE LINGERING IN THE OFFICE. SO HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WHILE YOU'RE HERE, MR. CASEY, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. WE HAVE A LOT OF. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT. I TAKE THAT BACK. WRONG TERMINOLOGY. WE'VE HAD SOME FLOODING AROUND THE CITY. RIGHT? AND WE HAVE UNDEVELOPED LAND IN POCKETS. AND, YOU KNOW, IN MY CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE PRIOR CITY MANAGER AND JUST THE COUNCIL, AS COLLECTIVELY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FOUR BEFORE THINKERS IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING AROUND FLOOD MANAGEMENT. AND I DID NOT SEE SEE ANY MAJOR PROJECTS. AND AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 2027 PLANNING AND I KNOW YOU'RE NEW IN THE CITY, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE STILL TRYING TO GET YOUR WINGS UNDERNEATH YOUR WINGS. DO YOU FORESEE, LIKE, ANY CHANGE? LIKE I WAS ANTICIPATING SOME TYPE OF I DON'T KNOW. IS IT A FEASIBILITY OR SOME TYPE OF PREPARATION TO TALK ABOUT A FLOOD MANAGEMENT PLAN LONG TERM? BUT IF IT'S NOT EVEN BEING PLANNED ON THE 2027, THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS MUCH FURTHER OUT, TOO. SO I JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS AROUND THAT, BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ANY PROJECTS THAT WERE CURRENTLY IMPACTING DRAINAGE FUND. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON DEVELOPING PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS USING THE REVENUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO CREATE FROM THE DRAINAGE FEES. ONE OF THEM IS THE EROSION MITIGATION PROGRAM. ONE OF THEM IS THE MASTER. EXACTLY. AND THEN ANOTHER ONE IS THE MASTER DRAINAGE. MASTER PLAN DRAINAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, MDE IS WORKING WITH OUR CITY ENGINEERS, WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANT. [05:00:02] AND WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP MAJOR PROJECTS THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE ISSUES, ISSUES AND FLOOD MITIGATION IN THE CITY. SO ON THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, WE WILL BRING SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS TO YOU FOR APPROVAL. AND THAT WOULD BE REFLECTIVE AND THAT WOULD BE REFLECTIVE ON THE 27 PLANNING, BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T SEE IT ON THE 26TH, RIGHT? SO REALLY IT WOULD BE BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME REVENUES FROM 2025. THAT IS $2.2 MILLION. OKAY. AND WE ALSO HAVE REVENUES FROM WE WILL HAVE REVENUES FOR DRAINAGE FUNDS FROM FOR 2026. AND THAT WOULD BE 2.97 MILLION. OKAY. AND THEN MORE REVENUE IS 3.3 AND THEN 2027. SO WE'LL PUT A PLAN TOGETHER TO UTILIZE THAT REVENUES TO DEVELOP PROGRAMS FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. JUST JUST WANT TO ADD MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE THE WOLF CANYON PROJECT THAT IS ABOUT 90% RIGHT NOW IN DESIGN. THAT'S GOING TO GO INTO CONSTRUCTION PRETTY SOON. WHAT MR. ALCAZAR IS TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE EROSION MITIGATION. THIS WILL BE A PROPOSAL FOR A 5050 PROGRAM TO HELP PROPERTY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO TO TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO MITIGATE OR REMEDY SOME OF THE SCOURING ISSUES THAT WOULD BE ONLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON THAT AS WELL, AS WELL AS THE THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN THAT HAVING ASSOCIATES IS DOING. AND SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE US TIME ONCE THEY IDENTIFY THE PROJECTS. IF YOU RECALL, THEY WANTED TO DO A 20 YEAR FORECASTING. THAT'S NOT REALISTIC. YOU KNOW, EVERY FIVE YEARS THINGS CHANGE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OF WHAT THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ARE NEEDED. AND THEN WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH WITH THE DRAINAGE FEE ADJUSTMENT BASED ON THOSE PROJECTS, TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS. SO THE WORK IS NOT DONE YET. WE'VE JUST STARTED. AND DID YOU MEAN WOLF CREEK? OKAY. WOLF CREEK, I STAND CORRECTED, SORRY. THANK YOU MA'AM. THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER SHOWED ME HOW TO USE THIS BUTTON. I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. LUNCHES ARRIVED AND WILL BE READY TO GO. ONCE WE HAVE WRAPPED UP. SO JUST A LITTLE MOTIVATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'LL TAKE THE NEXT SET OF SLIDES. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE MOVE INTO THE CIP PROGRAM. AND THIS IS WHAT I PROVIDED. WE DISCUSSED THESE AT THE TOWN HALLS AS WELL. JUST TO REMIND THE CITIZENS AND COUNCIL OF THE LAST AMOUNTS THAT WE PRIORITIZED IN THE MOST RECENT BOND SALE AND WHAT THOSE AMOUNTS WERE THAT WERE TIED TO EACH OF THOSE PROJECTS. THOSE FUNDS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED, AND THEY ARE AVAILABLE. FOR THE FOR THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WHO PARTICIPATES IN THE CIP. BACK UP JUST A BIT. WE DID NOT. WE HAVE NOT YET IRONED OUT ALL OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO SPEND FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. I DO HAVE A PENDING MEETING COMING UP WITH THOSE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS. WE KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO INVOLVE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR STREETS, PUBLIC WORKS, AS WELL AS PARKS FOR WORKS AT THE AQUATIC CENTER. SO YOU WILL SEE CAPITAL OUTLAY ADDED TO THE VARIOUS CIP BUDGETS. DEFINITELY FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 AND PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 27. SO THAT WILL BE IN THERE WILL BE A PENDING UPDATE THAT WE WILL BE MAKING. BUT I DID WANT TO JUST GO AHEAD AND REMIND AND LIST THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PRIORITIZED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2526. JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU FOR THAT FIRST COLUMN WHERE IT SAYS REVISED. CAN YOU JUST I WANT TO UNDERSTAND FIRST, WHY IS IT YELLOW? AND THEN WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN REVISED THERE? THIS IS THIS IS NOT TO SPEAK TO ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN REVISED. THIS IS THIS IS MY INTERNAL DOCUMENT THAT I WORK OFF OF. AND SO I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T ASSIGN ANY SIGNIFICANCE TO THE HIGHLIGHT. JUST WANTED TO BASICALLY BRING BACK THE NUMBERS THAT WERE EVENTUALLY DECIDED UPON. BUT THE NUMBERS ON THE DOCUMENT ARE CORRECT. YES, MA'AM. OKAY, OUTSTANDING. THANK YOU. MISS. I'D LIKE TO. [05:05:01] WHEN WE GET DOWN TO 2026, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE FINANCE FORM. OKAY. PROJECT? SURE. I'M. I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THE COST, THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND AND AND OTHER ITEMS. REGARDING THAT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE'VE SPENT ALREADY IN THE LAST 2 OR 3 YEARS IN THE DESIGN OF IT. I'D LIKE TO KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE WERE ABSOLUTELY AGAINST IT, AND WE KIND OF FORGED FORWARD WITH IT. AND NOW WITH IN LIEU OF WHAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS TOLD US ABOUT THE COLA INCREASE AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS, I'D LIKE TO JUST KIND OF TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THAT WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT, COUNCIL MEMBER. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WILL PROCEED FORWARD WITH NICE FORM. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO SINCE YOU'VE MADE THAT REQUEST, I'D LIKE FOR US TO COME BACK TO YOU VERY SOON. IN THE NEXT MONTH TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE NANCE FARM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY CONCERN BY THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE CONTINUED CONCERN BY THE RESIDENTS THAT WE ACTUALLY DISCUSS IT DURING THIS TIME AND NOT WAIT TILL THE NEXT BUDGET PROCESS. AND WE WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT, LOOKING AT WHAT IT WOULD COST TO OPERATE IT, MAKING SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE, AS I STATED, AN UPCOMING CIP MEETING WITH THE THE DIRECTORS WHO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE PROGRAMS. AND I'LL BE SURE TO ADD THE FOLKS WHO COORDINATE AND DO THE PLANNING FOR NANCE FARM SO THAT WE CAN BRING BACK THAT INFORMATION FOR THE COUNCIL. ALSO, CAN WE TAKE A LOOK AT I'M LOOKING AT ASPHALT STREET REPAIR. I HAVE BROUGHT IT UP WITH THE MEAD. IF WE COULD ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CALLS HERE GOING FORWARD, SO WE CAN HAVE A COMPARISON SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT COST EFFECTIVE MEASURES. BECAUSE I'VE HEARD RESIDENTS SAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ASPHALT AGAIN, ARE WE DOING THIS AGAIN? SO IS IT ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT MAKING MAYBE A SMALL INVESTMENT IN ALTERNATIVE MATERIAL? IT MAY COST A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT IF IT'S MORE SUSTAINABLE WHERE IT HELPS KEEP OUR COST RELATIVELY BALANCED. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. THANK YOU. AND ON THE WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT, IF IF IT'S IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE I KNOW THERE PROBABLY ARE SOME CHALLENGES WITH CHANGING ASPHALT TO CONCRETE OR VICE. YES. SO EVEN WITH THAT, COULD WE LOOK AT THE VENDORS THAT WE'RE USING? AND PARTICULARLY I KNOW I CALLED OUT THE ONE THAT DID PARKER VILLE THIS LAST ITERATION, I THINK IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO. JUST BECAUSE OF THE MESSINESS THAT HAPPENED AFTERWARDS AND THEN MANY, MUCH OF THAT STREET, WHAT NEEDED TO BE REDONE SHORTLY AFTER THE ASPHALT WAS LAID. SO I KNOW THAT I WAS TOLD AT THE TIME THAT THERE'S A WARRANTY ON THOSE SERVICES, SO THEY'LL GO BACK OUT, BUT IDEALLY WE THE QUALITY SHOULD BE THERE AND NOT NEEDED FOR SOMEONE TO GO BACK OUT. SO FROM RESIDENTS STANDPOINT, THEY LOOK AT THAT AND THEY SAY, WELL, WHY ARE WE USING INEXPERIENCED OR CHEAP VENDORS FOR SOMETHING THAT'S SO IMPORTANT, LIKE A STREET LIKE PARKER VILLE, WHEN IT'S ALREADY, YOU KNOW. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. SO IN REGARD TO THE FIRST QUESTION, OH, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING A STUDY, A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY FOR THE ENTIRE CITY'S STREETS AND ALLEYS. WHEN IT COMES TO THE PAVEMENT CONDITION AND STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS WE WILL OBVIOUSLY BRING THIS STUDY TO COUNCIL OVER THE NEXT 3 TO 6 MONTHS. AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE NEW MATERIALS ACTUALLY BRING IN THE TRANSPORTATION DESIGN MANUAL TO COUNCIL ON AUGUST 5TH. AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD REPLACE THE VERY OLD PAVEMENT DESIGN MANUAL THAT WE HAVE FROM 2005. AND IN THAT MANUAL WE ACTUALLY ADDRESSING ALL THE SUSTAINABILITY IN THERE. IN REGARDS TO THE OTHER QUESTION. WHEN IT COMES TO CONTRACTING, WE WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THE STATE REGULATION WHEN WE HIRE A CONTRACTOR. AND THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. 352, I BELIEVE. AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO BID IT OUT AND WE WOULD GO WITH THE LOWEST BID. [05:10:03] BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT A PERFORMANCE EVALUATION FOR EACH CONTRACTOR. SO THEN IF WE DON'T GET THE QUALITY OF WORK THAT WE WANT, THEN WE WOULD EXCLUDE THOSE CONTRACTORS IN THE FUTURE. JUST GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER, PLEASE GO AHEAD. YOU CAN ANSWER HER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. PARKER VILLE JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, THAT WAS, IN MY OPINION, A DESIGN ERROR. NOT NECESSARILY A CONSTRUCTION ERROR. WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE CURBS, GUTTERS, SIDEWALKS OR TREE BARRIERS. YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS CALLED FATIGUE IN THE PAVEMENT. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. SO THE CONTRACTOR HAD TO DO IT, AND HE CAME BACK AND DID IT. AND WE STILL PAID FOR THE MATERIAL BECAUSE IT REALLY IS A DESIGN ERROR, NOT A CONSTRUCTION ERROR. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR DESIGNS. WE HAVE. THAT'S THE REASON HE'S BRINGING BACK THE TRANSPORTATION MANUAL, BECAUSE IF AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY INVESTING IN CONCRETE AND ASPHALT CURB MACHINES AND ALL OF THAT, BECAUSE IF WE DO THE STREETS, ANY STREET THAT YOU DO AND IT RAINS HARD IF YOU DON'T HAVE BARRIERS AND THAT'S WHAT THE CURB CUT AND SIDEWALK DOES, THEN, THEN WATER CAN GET UNDERNEATH THE PAVEMENT OR UNDERNEATH THE CONCRETE AND CREATES THAT FATIGUE FOR THE SUBBASE. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH THE PAVEMENT. SO PAVEMENTS DON'T LAST, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY SHOULD HAVE LASTED. AND SO THAT'S THE CASE WITH ROAD FRANKLY, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT BARRIER THAT ALLOWS US TO, YOU KNOW, THAT ALLOWS US TO PROTECT THAT. AND THAT'S MY FEAR IF WE DON'T DO COMPLETE STREETS, BUT WE ALSO DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING FOR COMPLETE STREETS. SO WE'RE IN A CATCH 22. AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK MR. AL CASEY AND HIS TEAM ARE DOING A GREAT JOB IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ALTERNATIVE SOURCES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. QUESTION FOR YOU. AS FAR AS THE ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION, I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO ASK THIS QUESTION WHENEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS. IF SOMEONE WERE JUST LOOKING AT THIS, THEY'D SAY, OKAY, WE GOT AN ALLEY RECONSTRUCTED FOR A MILLION, AND THEN WE HAVE THE CONCRETE, AND THEN WE HAVE ASPHALT. DOES THE ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION INCLUDE CONCRETE OR ASPHALT OR SOMETHING, OR IS IT BECAUSE IS IT IS IT REALLY SEPARATE FROM CONCRETE STREET REPAIR? YES. THERE ARE SEPARATE THE ALLEYS IS JUST FOR ALLEYS. AND THAT IS KIND OF LIKE VERY SPECIFIC FOR ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IF THE ALLEY IS CONCRETE, WE WILL FIX IT WITH CONCRETE. IF IT'S WITH ASPHALT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. YOU KNOW, NOWADAYS IF YOU REPLACE THE ASPHALT OR WE DO THE RECONSTRUCTION FOR FROM AN ASPHALT ALLEY TO A CONCRETE ALLEY. A LOT OF TIMES YOU ACTUALLY SAVE MONEY BECAUSE OF THE LIFETIME OF THE ASPHALT COMPARED TO THE CONCRETE ASPHALT. WILL GIVE YOU 15 YEARS OF WITH GOOD PRESERVATION. CONCRETE WILL GIVE YOU 30 YEARS. SO THAT ALLEY CONSTRUCTION ITEM IS DIFFERENT FROM THE CONCRETE REPAIR AND THE ASPHALT REPAIR, WHICH BOTH OF THESE ARE JUST ALLOCATED FOR STREETS ONLY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE CAN CONTINUE. MADAM MAYOR, JUST ON YOUR CIP, YOUR YOUR YOUR TOTALS DON'T COMPUTE THERE. THERE'S A WE'RE OFF A LINE. IT APPEARS LIKE THE JOINT COUNTY JOINT. TIP NUMBER TWO. WESTMORELAND, THE 9000. IF YOU CROSS OVER, YOU GO TO 17,000. AND THEN MORE. MORE SPECIFICALLY, I WAS LOOKING AT THE DANIEL DALE. I WAS LOOKING FOR THE DANIEL DALE ROAD, WHICH I KNOW HAS BEEN APPROVED. I DON'T SEE ANY CIP IN THAT EARLY. SO IS THAT IS THAT A MISTAKE? AND THEN I SEE 9 MILLION OVER IN THE TOTAL COLUMN. I CAN PROBABLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION, COUNCILMAN. I THINK WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO IS, IS CREATE ANOTHER COLUMN BECAUSE THERE'S EXPENDITURES OR THERE'S EARMARKED FUNDING FROM PRIOR YEARS AS WELL. OKAY. THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THERE. OKAY. VERY GOOD. BUT HE IS CORRECT, THOUGH AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL FUND, THE TOTALS ARE CONCERNED, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU HAVE THE A MILLION FOR THE ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION. BUT RIGHT ABOVE IT YOU HAVE THAT 400 AND THEN THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, IT SAYS 750 OVER HERE, BUT OVER HERE IT SAYS 2.25 MILLION. I MEAN, YEAH, TWO. THERE'S. YEAH, THEY'RE THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT OFF THERE. HIDDEN CARS. HIDDEN CARS. OH THESE ARE HIDDEN SOME THERE ARE HIDDEN COLUMNS FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION. I WAS I WAS WANTING TO DIRECT THE ATTENTION TO THE MOST RECENT BOND SALE, [05:15:03] THE TOTAL COLUMN. IT. THEY'RE THEY'RE PLANNING FILES IN THE BACKGROUND ON THIS EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT I HID. SO 2.2 IS REALLY SET ASIDE FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. NO. RIGHT NOW IT SAYS 750, BUT IT SAYS 2.2 IN THE TOTAL. YEAH. THAT THAT'S MY THAT'S MY INDIVIDUAL SHEET THAT I WORK ON BEHIND THE SCENES. THAT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT'S DEFINITE. WHAT'S DEFINITE IS WHAT'S IN COLUMN 25 FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 OKAY. THIS IS MY PLANNING DOCUMENT. AND SOME OF THE COLUMNS ARE HIDDEN BECAUSE THEY AREN'T THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DECIDED ON. DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? COUNCIL MEMBER. TO ANSWER PART OF THE QUESTION. WHERE IS MY MONEY FOR? WHAT I NEED TO ADD ALSO IS THAT THIS IS A VERY FLUID DOCUMENT. SO EACH YEAR BEFORE WE DO AN ACTUAL BOND SALE, WE ARE DEFINITELY REVISITING EACH LINE TO SEE IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE MOVED AROUND. AND WE'LL WE AS ALWAYS, WE'RE GOING TO BRING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. CAN WE BE FLUID? BACK TO MY QUESTION. SO WHERE IS MY DICK, DANIEL, DALE AND WESTMORELAND MONEY THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ALREADY. IS IT? YES. SO SO THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE OVER THERE, THEY'RE JUST FOR THE 2025 AND 2026 BOND THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL BACK IN MAY, I BELIEVE, IN MAY 2025 OF THIS YEAR. THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE FOR DANIEL DALE, I BELIEVE WE HAVE $80 $10 MILLION. THOSE ARE THE FROM THE PREVIOUS BONDS. SO YOU DON'T SEE THEM HERE BECAUSE THIS IS THE MONEY JUST FOR 2526. BUT WE DO HAVE MONEY FOR DANIEL DALE PROJECT. YES. THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT EXACTLY. PUT IN HERE. I WOULD DEFER TO THE CITY MANAGER IF THEY WANT TO ADD ANOTHER COLUMN ON THIS. I THINK MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT THIS IS THE WORKING DOCUMENTS THAT WE'RE SHARING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. THERE'S A CIP DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS ALL THE FUNDING THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. WE WILL PROVIDE YOU THAT AS WELL. THERE IS MONEY FOR DANIEL THERE. THERE'S MONEY FOR WESTMORELAND. THOSE ARE THE TWO PROJECTS THAT WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO. THEY ARE SLATED TO BE BID OUT FOR BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY OR MARCH OF 2026. ACTUALLY WESTMORELAND. WE WERE TRYING TO BID THAT OUT NEXT MONTH IN AUGUST. AND DANIELLE, THAT WE'RE MAKING PRETTY GOOD PROGRESS ON THAT ONE AS WELL. OKAY. SO WE CAN WE CAN PROVIDE THAT STATIC DOCUMENT. THIS IS MORE OF A WORKING DOCUMENT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE IT. BUT THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT WILL BE TAKEN OUT OF THE DOCUMENT THAT'S ONLINE RIGHT. BECAUSE I'M SAYING WE'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING IT TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL. WE'RE NOT JUST DOING IT TO THE COUNCIL. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS DOCUMENT OUT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES MY SESSION OF THE PRESENTATION. NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BRING UP THE NEXT THE VERY LAST PRESENTATION, WHICH IS THE PRESENTATION ON THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OFFICER PROGRAM. AND GIVING THAT PRESENTATION WILL BE MISS NIKKI GILES. AND IF I CAN MAKE AN INTRODUCTION. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OFFICERS OR THE COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB BETWEEN OFFICER MARTIN AND MISS GILES. THEY THEY GO TO NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY THEY THEY ENGAGE WITH BUSINESSES. I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO TOUR SEVERAL BUSINESSES AND MEET SEVERAL HOA REPRESENTATIVES WITH MISS GILES, AND FOUND THAT TO BE INCREDIBLY USEFUL. WHAT ALARMED ME A LITTLE BIT IN WHAT WAS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING FOR ME TO LEARN, IS THAT A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE DO IT, AND WHO THE REPRESENTATIVE IS, AND, AND, AND SO I WORKED WITH MISS GILES AND, AND THE CHIEF TO KIND OF HOPEFULLY BRING IN A NEW PROGRAM THAT REALLY IS GEARED NOT ON JUST POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT BASED ON THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. IN TALKING WITH THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT HOA ISSUES AND TALKING TO THEM ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TALKING TO THEM ABOUT YOU KNOW NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAMS [05:20:07] AND TALKING TO THEM ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES AND SERVICES OFFERED BY THE CITY. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT TO NIKKI AND ENTERTAIN US, PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND ALLOWING FOR ME TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY ON A PROGRAM THAT'S ACTUALLY VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO ME, BOTH PERSONAL AND. PURPOSEFUL, IF YOU WILL. SO, FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR TUMMIES AND TO KEEP, MAKE SURE THAT YOUR LUNCH IS GOING TO STAY WARM. I WON'T BE BEFORE YOU LONG, BUT ME AND MY TEAM, IF YOU WILL. WE WON'T BE BEFORE YOU LONG. BUT I WOULD THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO KIND OF GIVE YOU JUST A BRIEF INTRO OR A BACKGROUND TO LET YOU KNOW HOW THIS INITIATIVE TOOK PLACE OR IT CAME INTO LIFE, IF YOU WILL. SO I'VE BEEN WITH I CAME ON TO WAS HIRED ON WITH THE CITY OF DESOTO AND POLICE DEPARTMENT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, WITH MY PRIMARY FOCUS BEING ON GOING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, BRIDGING THE GAP, MAKING A DOORWAY, IF YOU WOULD, FOR OUR OFFICERS TO ACTUALLY GO INTO PLACES OR CREATE A CLIMATE SO THAT IT WAS COMFORTABLE. SO I THINK WE'VE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT, WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE MEANINGFUL AND PROACTIVE. SO WITH THAT SAID, I DID TAKE CITY MANAGER, MR. CAFFREY, OUT ON SOME MONTHLY. WE'D GO OUT ON OUR COMMUNITY RIDE ALONGS, AND I THINK FROM THERE, HE SAW AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THE ENTIRE CITY, ALL INTERNAL CITY DEPARTMENTS, COULD TAKE SOMETHING FROM IT AND BECOME PART OF SOMETHING OF THIS CALIBER WHERE IT IS MORE CONNECTED, WHERE WE HAVE MORE ENGAGEMENT CITYWIDE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. AND AS CITY MANAGER SAID THIS, YOU KNOW, IT IS FLUID AS FAR AS THE NAME IS CONCERNED. AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO EVOLVE, TO EVOLVE. THE AGENDA TODAY JUST TALKS ABOUT PURPOSE AND VISION OF THE PRESENTATION, THE ENGAGEMENT GAP, PROGRAM MODEL AND STRUCTURE, IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND DEPARTMENT INTEGRATION, MEASURABLE IMPACT RECOMMENDATION AND CALL TO SUPPORT A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT'S HERE TO BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN COMMUNITY AND CITY SERVICES. THE PURPOSE IS TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THIS PROGRAM AS A CROSS-FUNCTIONAL ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY. REQUEST CITY COUNCIL SUPPORT FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROGRAM AND ITS PHASED EXPANSION. DEMONSTRATE HOW THE PROGRAM CONNECTS THE COMMUNITY WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS THROUGH COORDINATED ENGAGEMENT, SUPPORTING CITYWIDE COLLABORATION AND ENHANCED SERVICE DELIVERY. I'M MOVING. REALLY GOOD, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT GAP. I'M SURE THAT YOU WOULD AGREE THAT THERE IS DEFINITELY AN ENGAGEMENT GAP. I'VE NOTICED THAT EVEN GOING OUT INTO THE CITY MYSELF. BUT I MUST ALSO ADD THAT THE CITY HAS OR THE THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN MOST WELCOMING WHEN WE COME OUT WITH THE ENERGY THAT WE COME OUT WITH, WITH THE SMILE THAT WE COME OUT WITH, ALSO WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE COME OUT WITH. WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, IF THERE IS A CONCERN, WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK IN-HOUSE AND FOLLOWING UP TO GO BACK OUT TO GIVE THE CITIZENS AND THE COMMUNITY WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. SO THAT'S BEEN A PLUS. THE ENGAGEMENT GAP CHALLENGE. MANY RESIDENTS DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO FOR HELP, OR THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING SO, FOR WHATEVER THAT REASON. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. THE BARRIER DEPARTMENTS WORK HARD, BUT SILOS CREATE INEFFICIENCIES AND MISCONCEPTIONS. THEY'RE WORKING. THEY'RE AT THEIR DESKS. THEY'RE GETTING DOWN. THEY'RE WORKING HARD. BUT THERE IS A HICCUP OR MISCONCEPTIONS. FOR AN EXAMPLE, IF I CAN GIVE AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU WILL. CITIZENS, WHAT I'VE LEARNED SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE THEY ARE BOUNCED FROM DEPARTMENT TO DEPARTMENT WITHOUT A RESOLUTION. OKAY. THE SOLUTION WE'RE HERE AS TRUSTED NAVIGATORS BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND CITY DEPARTMENTS. DOING A LITTLE HISTORY OR A LITTLE RESEARCH. WE'VE LEARNED THAT TEXAS, PLANO, TEXAS IS EIGHT HAS AN 18% REDUCTION IN NON-EMERGENCY CALLS. OUR SISTER CITY, CEDAR HILL, HAS A 25% INCREASE IN CIVIC PARTICIPATION. NEXT SLIDE. HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS. [05:25:05] WE'LL BEGIN WITH ONE WORKING SUPERVISOR AND ONE REPRESENTATIVE, IF YOU WILL. ASSIGNED BY DISTRICT AND FLEXIBLE DEPLOYMENT. SO JUST LIKE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER. MAYOR PRO TEM CHISHOLM, WE HAVE FOUR DISTRICTS. AND THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT ONE COULD COVER. SO WE REALLY THE THE GOAL IS TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE, IF YOU WILL, FOR EACH DISTRICT. BUT UNTIL THEN WE'LL USE WHAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS A WORKING SUPERVISOR AND A WORKING TEAM OR A TEAM MEMBER THAT WOULD BE ASSIGNED TO THE DISTRICT FOR FLEXIBLE DEPLOYMENT AT THIS TIME. THE FOCUS AREAS, HIGH VISIBILITY, MORE OF OUTREACH SO THAT THERE ISN'T A NEED FOR THE INREACH JUST SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE THERE. TRUST BUILDING. INTER-DEPARTMENTAL COORDINATION. THE KEY ROLES HOLLOWS ARE A VITAL PART OF THIS, SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUR HOMES. WE NEED TO BUILD A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ISD, BUSINESSES AND FAITH BASED LIAISON POINT OF CONTACT FOR DEPARTMENTS AND NON ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY. EXCUSE ME. NON ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY. PROBLEM SOLVERS. THAT'S YOUR PROGRAM MODEL DISTRICT LOGIC AND DEPARTMENT INTEGRATION. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHY IT WILL WORK AGAIN. FOUR DISTRICTS. COMPLETE CITY COVERAGE. THE THE COMMUNITY SERVICE ENGAGEMENT TEAM WILL BUILD DIRECT WORKING RELATIONSHIPS. AND I THINK THAT'S THE KEY WORD THAT WE SAY WORKING RELATIONSHIPS, NOT JUST TO GO OUT AND MEET YOU. HI. WE'RE HERE, AND THAT'S IT. BUT WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY WITH DEPARTMENTAL REPS PER DISTRICT SUCCESS INDICATORS. YOU WILL HAVE COMMUNITY SATISFACTION AND PERCEPTION. INCREASED VOLUNTARY ENGAGEMENT. TRACKED REFERRALS TO CITY DEPARTMENTS. REDUCED REPEAT NON-EMERGENCY CALLS. REDUCED REPEAT NINE EMERGENCY CALLS. RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONCLUSION. IT'S ALMOST LUNCHTIME. SO THE SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSAL TO LAUNCH THIS PROGRAM IN YEAR ONE WITH ONE WORKING SUPERVISOR, ONE TEAM MEMBER ASSIGNED BY DISTRICT. THE TEAM MEMBERS WILL SERVE AS TRUSTED LIAISONS BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND CITY DEPARTMENTS. THE FOCUS WOULD BE ON INTER-DEPARTMENTAL COORDINATION, VISIBILITY, AND NON ENFORCEMENT OUTREACH. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET YEAR ONE. MINIMAL REALLOCATED STAFFING AND REPURPOSED VEHICLES BUT WILL INVOLVE RECLASSIFICATION TO PERSONNEL TITLES. YEAR TWO ADD ONE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEMBER AN ADDITIONAL MARKED VEHICLE AND OF COURSE NEW BUDGET REQUEST. WITH THAT, THE STAKEHOLDERS IN ALL OF THIS CITY DEPARTMENTS, COMMUNITY PARTNERS, HOAS, THE DESOTO ISD CHURCHES AND LOCAL BUSINESSES. THE TIMELINE WITH THIS YEAR ONE IMMEDIATE IMPLEMENTATION WITH CURRENT STAFFING, WHICH WE ARE ALREADY RUNNING A PILOT PROGRAM ON THAT WITH THE OKAY, OUR CHIEF. AND YEAR TWO TO EXPAND WITH A SECOND REPRESENTATIVE DEDICATED VEHICLE AND ADDITIONAL OUTREACH TOOLS. SO WITH THAT, WE'D LIKE TO SAY LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH RESULTS THAT YOU'LL SEE. AND I'LL SAY THANK YOU. AND I ALSO WANT TO ADD THAT. AND AGAIN, I SAID, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO ME. I AM MOST PROUD TO SAY, ESPECIALLY COMING FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT THIS IS AN INITIATIVE THAT'S BEING BIRTHED FROM THERE TO GOING TO INTER-DEPARTMENTAL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. YES, MA'AM. WHILE I AM A BIG PROPONENT FOR HOAS, I'M ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT. YES, YOU ARE BUT I BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME COMPONENT FOR NON ARCHWAYS OR NON-COMPLIANT HOA COMMUNITY LEADERS THAT ARE OUT HERE WHO ARE ALSO NEEDING THIS TO BE A STAKEHOLDER, IS WHAT I'M SAYING. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE CITIZENS ON PATROL? WHEN YOU SAY EFFECT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THEY SHOULD BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. AND SO ARE THE ROLES SIMILAR? OR MAYBE BECAUSE I KNOW THE CITIZENS ON PATROL ARE ALSO OUT AND SHOULD BE COMMUNICATING AND THAT OUTREACH IN THE COMMUNITIES. [05:30:03] SO YEAH, THERE IN CHIEF, DO YOU MIND SPEAKING ON THAT BECAUSE THE ROLES ARE DIFFERENT. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. SO CITIZENS ON PATROL, VOLUNTEERS AND UNPAID EMPLOYEES. AND SO THEY THEY'RE OUT WHEN THEY CAN, WHEN THEY CAN HAVE THEIR TIME, WHEN THEY COME OUT AND THEY'RE OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO THERE ARE EYES AND EARS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALSO MAKING ENGAGEMENTS WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE A VOLUNTEER PROCESS. THIS IS PAID. PAID EMPLOYEES. NO. UNDERSTOOD THAT PART. BUT I'M SAYING, WILL THEY BE THE ONES TO BE TAPPED FOR THIS TYPE OF WORK? BECAUSE THEY WON'T. NO, MA'AM. AND IF YOU DON'T MIND. SO. AND WITH THAT, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. SO THE DIFFERENCE IS ALSO WE REMEMBER WE ARE MERGING AND WE'RE DOING AN INTER-DEPARTMENTAL. SO WE HAVE DIRECT BEING A WORKING YOU KNOW BEING HERE WE ARE HIRED ON. SO I'M WORKING WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT. THE COPS THEY ARE AS CHIEF STATED THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS. SO I'LL HAVE A DIRECT CONNECTION WITH FINANCE. I'LL HAVE THAT PERSON THAT I'M CONNECTING WITH. WHEN YOU HAVE A MEMBER OR YOU HAVE SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS AN ISSUE. OKAY. HOW'S THAT? THEY WILL BE THEIR ROLE WILL BE THE MEGA THEIR ROLE WILL BE THE MEGA CITY MANAGER OUT IN THE FIELD. NO, WE WOULD NOT SAY THEY THEY WILL BE. THEY WILL BE THE REPRESENTATIVES WORKING, WORKING FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST ON POLICE MATTERS, BUT ON ON INFORMING THEM OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES, TALKING TO BUSINESSES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEIR STRUGGLES, THEIR CHALLENGES, GOING TO NEIGHBORHOODS, GOING TO HOS. ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT WHEN WHEN NICKY AND I WERE WERE DOING ONE OF OUR ROUNDS IS WE WENT TO ONE HOA AND I CAN'T REMEMBER. FORGIVE ME NICKY THE NAME, BUT THEY HAD A A DRAINAGE RETENTION BASIN. HINSDALE FARM. OKAY, OKAY. AND AND THE WHEN I MET WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES, THEY, THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT. I GUESS THEY WERE TRYING TO GET SOMEONE TO DREDGE THAT. AND THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE THEM 120,000 OR $140,000. AND I JUST HAPPENED TO BE THERE AND HAPPENED TO KIND OF LISTEN TO WHAT THEY HAD. AND WE CAME UP WITH THREE OR 4 OR 5 SOLUTIONS FOR THEM TO COME BACK AND ENGAGED WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT I'M SURE SAVED THEM HUNDREDS, YOU KNOW, WELL, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO, YOU KNOW, TO CLEAN THAT OR TO REPURPOSE THAT. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO. IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT POLICE, IT WAS ABOUT OTHER OTHER SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE. YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH ARTS. IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH, I DON'T FORGIVE ME, BUT, YOU KNOW, BRUSHING, BRUSHING AND TRUST ISSUES, IT COULD TOO SOON. SO, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE SOMETHING JUST JUST TO KNOW. I MEAN, WE WENT TO ANOTHER ONE AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO THE CITY MANAGER WAS. AND I WAS LIKE, I WAS BLUSHING BECAUSE I HAD TO REINTRODUCE MYSELF TO THEM. BUT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO WE SHARED THAT WITH THEM. THIS IS THIS IS THE POWER OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE FRONT AND CENTER, OUR EYES AND EARS AND OUR WINDOW INTO. INTO THE REAL WORLD. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PILOT PROGRAM. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. YES, MA'AM. THE FIRST ONE IS OFFICERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN TRAINING. WILL THEY BE INTRODUCED? I'M SO GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I HAD THAT AS PART OF MY PRESENTATION. BUT I KNOW THAT YOU'RE HUNGRY. LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT IT. SO IN ADDITION TO THE DUTIES THAT I HAVE OR THAT I'VE ENSUED, I'M ALSO ON OUR IN-SERVICE TRAINING TEAM, AND I LEAD A A COURSE ON COMMUNITY POLICING. SO WHEN THE NEW OFFICERS COME IN, WE GET THEM OUTSIDE OF THE WALLS OF THE DEPARTMENT AND TAKE THEM INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE CHURCHES, THE ISD AND INTER-DEPARTMENTAL PLACES. SO, YES. AND WE DO THAT SO THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE OR THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE SERVING, AND SO THAT THE COMMUNITY IN TURN, CAN KNOW WHO THEY ARE. I'M GLAD YOU'RE DOING THAT. AND SECONDLY, BASED ON THE RESULTS OF THE PILOT PROGRAM, WHICH HAS THE POTENTIAL TO GROW. INDEED, I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW, AS YOU TALK ABOUT THE REPRESENTATIVES BASED ON DISTRICT, BECAUSE WE HAVE FOUR DISTRICTS, OR IS THIS BI PLACE BECAUSE WE HAVE SEVEN PLACES AND IS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY CURRENTLY LIVE IN? SAY THE LAST PART, MISS NORTH. IS IT A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY LIVE IN THE DISTRICT IN OUR PLACE? AS WE LOOK AT THIS PALETTE GROWING. [05:35:02] OH I UNDERSTAND. NO NO NO IT WOULDN'T BE. NO, I WOULD TELL YOU. WE WOULD LOVE TO. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE FOUR FOLKS FOR THE FOUR DISTRICTS. YOU KNOW, A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LEADER AND THREE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISONS. THAT'S A THAT'S AN IDEAL MODEL. YES, BUT I WANTED TO INTRODUCE THAT PILOT PROGRAM AND SEE. AND WE'RE GOING TO CREATE KPIS, KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS FOR IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING BACK TO THE COUNCIL THE BENEFITS OF ALL OF ALL OF THE WORK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. SO, NIKKI, THAT'S THE REASON SHE LABELED HERSELF AS THE WORKING SUPERVISOR, BECAUSE SHE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE TAKEN ON TO DISTRICTS, AND OFFICER MARTIN IS GOING TO TAKE ON TWO DISTRICTS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WORK AS SUCH. I'M SURE NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, AS THE MODEL PRODUCES, THE RESULTS WILL BRING IT BACK FOR FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, INCLUDING MAYBE 1 OR 2 OFFICERS AND 1 OR 2 VEHICLES FOR THAT. THAT'S THE GOAL AND THE OBJECTIVE FOR US. AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND JUST FOR MY OWN CORRECTION, IF YOU WILL, I'D LOVE TO CALL THE THE SUPERVISOR, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LEADER, AND WOULD LOVE TO CALL OFFICER MARTIN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON INSTEAD OF A REPRESENTATIVE. WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO MAYBE BRINGING ON SEVEN PEOPLE SO WE CAN REPRESENT EACH COUNCIL MEMBERS. SOUNDS LIKE MORE MONEY. MORE MONEY? MONEY IS NOT OUT THERE. CHIEF SAID HE GONNA GET HIS FIVE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS ANYWAY. YEAH, YEAH. SO I JUST. LET ME LET ME LET ME ADD ON TO WHY I BRING THAT UP. BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT LAST NIGHT ABOUT RETENTION. AND MOST PEOPLE, SOME ARE MOTIVATED BY COMPENSATION MONEY, BUT ALSO AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FINDING SOLUTIONS AND INCREASING OR ENHANCING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. IF WE DID GROW TO WHERE WE HAVE THE OFFICERS THAT WANT TO LIVE HERE. LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE INCREASING. WE BRING THEM IN TO BE ON SITE. SO THAT'S HOUSING. WE INVITED THEM TO SPEND THEIR DOLLARS HERE. THAT MAY BE THEIR FULFILLMENT. SO LET'S NOT BOO IT JUST YET. LET'S JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL. BUILD THE POTENTIAL HERE, MY CHIEF COST AND THE ADDITIONAL ADD ON. AND I'D LIKE TO STRESS THAT WE GAVE US A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE TO THE POLICE WITH NO AMENDMENTS TO THE QUALIFICATIONS, AND WE WERE GIVEN PLANO TO REFERENCE. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER TOPIC FOR ANOTHER DAY. I WILL SAY THIS, THAT I AM REALLY EXCITED FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING, MISS NIKKI, AS WELL AS YOU, MR. MARTIN, THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO IN OUR COMMUNITY. THIS COUNCIL HAS TALKED FOR YEARS ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND THIS IS REALLY WHAT COMMUNITY POLICING IS. I DON'T SEE THIS AS SOMETHING NEW. I SEE THIS AS DEFINING WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING TODAY AND JUST EVOLVING THAT. SO I APPRECIATE THE INTENTIONALITY BEHIND IT AND INCORPORATING THE COMMUNITY POLICING, BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED, WE WE SHOULD DEFINITELY SEE THE REDUCTION IN THE CALLS THAT WE'RE GETTING AND HOW THAT AND HOW WE BRING THE POLICE MORE AND INTERTWINE INTO OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT IS A PLUS. AND IT ALSO TIES INTO OUR SURVEY THAT WE JUST RECENTLY GOT THE RESULTS FOR THAT. THEY SAY THAT THEY WANT TO SEE MORE PUBLIC SAFETY WITH THE COST OF OVERTIME INCREASING. AND WE KNOW THAT THAT MEANS THAT YOU ALL ARE OUT AND OPEN. I THINK A LOT OF TIMES PERCEPTION IS REALITY TO THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY IF THEY DON'T SEE YOU OR YOU DON'T ENGAGE, THEY ASSUME THAT THEY'RE NOT THERE. BUT THE THE COST, THE INVESTMENT IS THAT WE SEE WE KNOW THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR YOU TO BE OUT THERE. IT'S JUST THE VISIBILITY ABOUT IT. SO I APPRECIATE THE INTENTIONALITY IN THIS PROGRAM, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO. OH, MAN. I'M HUNGRY, SO I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND I NEED TO DO A RIDE ALONG WITH YOU. CAN YOU HOOK THAT UP SO I CAN? I APPRECIATE THAT. CERTAINLY. WE CAN DO THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. CALL MY PEOPLE AND YOU'LL BE OKAY. MAKE THAT TOO. I LIKE THAT. BUT I DO WANT TO ADD THAT IN THIS LAST, LAST THING, THAT I AM A FIRM BELIEVER THAT THE FUTURE OF DESOTO IS THE HARVEST OF TODAY'S DECISIONS. SO TAKE THAT. OKAY. YOU DID. YOU DID THAT. WELL, OFFICER GILES, YOU HAVE LEFT US INSPIRED TO DO MORE. THANK YOU. BUT YOU ALSO TOOK US OVER TWO MINUTES ON OUR TIME. WAIT. I'M SORRY. IT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER NORTH. [05:40:04] WE LOVE THE QUOTE SO MUCH. ONE MORE. AMAZING. DID WE SAY THAT WE ALREADY STARTED THE PILOT? YES. OKAY. SO HOW LONG IS THE PILOT? UNTIL OCTOBER. UNTIL OCTOBER? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE'LL GET A, LIKE, A REPORT BACK. OH, YEAH. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE IT. WE'RE REALLY. WE JOKE, BUT WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING. I THINK IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO ALL OF OUR HEART ABOUT ENGAGING OUR COMMUNITY. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. AND SO TO BE AS INTENTIONAL AS YOU ALL ARE BEING IS VERY ENCOURAGING AND IT'S INSPIRING. SO THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE SLIDES. WE DON'T WANT ANY SLIDES LEFT OUT. NOTHING ON YOUR LAPTOP. ALRIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN COUNCIL. OH WELL. NO NO NO WE WON'T. WE WANT TO THANK YOU ALL COUNCIL STAFF, FOR ALL THE WORK TO GET US TO THIS POINT. WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THE EFFORT. I DON'T WANT TO START CALLING NAMES BECAUSE I'LL MISS SOMEBODY AND THEN I'LL HAVE TO HEAR ABOUT I DIDN'T CALL YOUR NAME. SO EVERYBODY WHO HELPED. THANK YOU ALL FOR IT, FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR EFFORT. WE WE IT IS NOT LOST ON US. THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT GOES IN BEHIND THE SCENES. OFTENTIMES WHEN YOU DON'T SEE IT, YOU TAKE FOR GRANTED SOMETIMES HOW HARD Y'ALL WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO WE WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. LET'S GIVE YOURSELF ANOTHER HAND CLAP. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND NOW AT THIS TIME COUNCIL, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MAYOR. BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU. I JUST WANT TO GET CLARITY BEFORE WE LEAVE WHERE THE CITY IS IN. STILL A GREAT BUDGETARY STANDING, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT FULL OF DEBT. WE'RE NOT BROKE. SO WE'RE NOT THE CITY OF DOORS THAT ARE CLOSING. AND THE LIGHTS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO WORK. WE HAVE A VERY HEALTHY FUND BALANCE. WE HAVE FAR SURPASSED WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS. FISCAL YEAR 26. BUDGET IS LEAN OKAY. IT'S LEANER THAN WE'VE SEEN IT A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME NEW THINGS GOING ON. THE AQUATIC CENTER OPENING, WE HAVE SOME MOVING PIECES, BUT WE ARE IN A GREAT FINANCIAL POSITION. OKAY. I JUST WANTED CLARITY OF THAT BEFORE WE ASK. I WANTED THAT TO BE THE LAST THING YOU SAID. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, I HAVE A SPECIAL RULE. AND STAFF KNOWS THAT I DON'T TOUCH THE THE RESERVE UNLESS THE COUNCIL ORDERS ME TO DO SO. SO I HAVE TO BALANCE THE REVENUES AND THE EXPENDITURES WITH WHAT WE HAVE OR WHAT WE GET. AND THAT'S JUST TO RULE OUT FOLLOWED ALL MY LIFE. AND SO AGAIN, IT'S UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THAT. BUT MY JOB IS NOT ONLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUDGET IS BALANCED, BUT ALSO THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THE CORE BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE TO DO AND PRESENT TO YOU A HEALTHY APPROACH OR A HEALTHY FORECAST INTO THE FUTURE. SURE. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S IT. AS I'VE SAID SO MANY TIMES, CITIES ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE HAVING TO DO MORE WITH LESS. RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE A STAFF THAT IS CREATIVE, THAT STRATEGIC THAT THINKS OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. ALSO COUNCIL. SAME FOR YOU ALL TO MAKE SURE THAT WITH WHAT WE DO HAVE TO WORK WITH, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE OUR RESIDENTS THE BEST THAT THEY HAVE BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO. AND SO I APPRECIATE AGAIN ALL OF THE WORK AND ALL OF THE BRAIN WORK AND THE THINKING THAT EVERYBODY IS DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY CAN LIVE WITH. AND THAT THAT'S A WIN WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU AGAIN. DID WE GET A MOTION IN A SECOND. DON'T MOVE. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MAYOR PRO TEM AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER NORTH TO ADJOURN. COUNSELOR. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 12:36 P.M. COUNCIL. YOU ARE NOW ADJOURNED. Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.