Apr 14, 2025 City Council Special Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. I'M MAYOR RACHEL PROCTOR, AND I WANT TO CALL OUR SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER OF THE DESOTO CITY COUNCIL. IT IS 6 P.M. MONDAY, APRIL 14TH. I'M GOING TO ASK OUR CITY SECRETARY IF SHE WOULD GIVE US A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYOR RACHEL PROCTOR HERE, MAYOR PRO TEM LETICIA HUGHES HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. PARKER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER NICOLE RAPHAEL HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ANDRE BYRD HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DIANA HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. CRYSTAL CHISHOLM

[a. Presentation of proclamation honoring National Public Safety Telecommunicators Week]

AND, MISS BELL, WOULD YOU COME AND RECEIVE THIS? SURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I'M GOING TO ALLOW OR HAVE ONE OF OUR NIGHT SHIFT SUPERVISOR, SHELLY, TO MAKE SOME REMARKS. GOOD EVENING.

I'M SHELLEY ELLIOTT. I'M A NIGHT SHIFT SUPERVISOR. WE HAVE A WONDERFUL TEAM ON THE DAY SHIFTS AND THE NIGHT SHIFTS, AND IT'S SO WONDERFUL WHEN WE GET RECOGNIZED FOR WHAT WE DO AND WHAT THEY DO, THEY PUT THEIR HEART AND SOUL INTO IT. THANK YOU, MAYOR PROCTOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL, FOR HONORING US WITH THIS WONDERFUL AWARD. AND I TELL EVERYBODY THAT I EVER TALK TO ABOUT OUR DOORS ARE ALWAYS OPEN. PLEASE COME IN AND SEE WHAT WE DO, SEE HOW WE DO IT, AND GET A LOOK AT HOW HARD THEY WORK AND THE TRAINING THAT THEY PUT IN TO DOING A GOOD JOB FOR ALL OF OUR

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[b. Presentation of proclamation honoring National Assistant Principal Week]

VERLIN WEST, DESOTO HIGH SCHOOL, AND CHRISTOPHER POPE, DESOTO HIGH SCHOOL. LET'S GIVE THEM ALL A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. THANK ALL. RIGHT, MISS ALICIA BAILEY, DESOTO HIGH SCHOOL, COULD YOU PLEASE JOIN US? OH. SHE'S HERE. OKAY. PERFECT. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE THAT WE DIDN'T SEE? THANK YOU. THANKS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. YES. OKAY. IT'S ALLOWED. IT'S MONDAY.

OKAY. AND I'D LIKE TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS THE TITLE OF ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL REPRESENTS A DEDICATED LEADER WHO WORKS COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CAMPUS PRINCIPAL, EDUCATORS AND STAFF TO FOSTER A POSITIVE AND EFFECTIVE EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT AIMED AT ENHANCING STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT. AND WHEREAS ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS SERVE AS MENTORS, ROLE MODELS, AND ADVOCATES, MOTIVATING STUDENTS TO STRIVE FOR THEIR FULL POTENTIAL AND GUIDING THEM TOWARD SUCCESS IN BOTH ACADEMICS AND LIFE. AND WHEREAS ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH COLLEAGUES, PARENTS, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO CULTIVATE A SAFE, INCLUSIVE AND SUPPORTIVE SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT THAT NURTURES ACADEMIC SUCCESS, EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING, AND PERSONAL GROWTH.

AND WHEREAS ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS UPHOLD POLICIES THAT PROMOTE FAIRNESS AND CONSISTENCY, MANAGING LOCAL LEGAL AND LEGAL AND EDUCATIONAL STANDARDS GOVERNING STUDENTS, STAFF, OPERATIONS, CURRICULUM, ASSESSMENT AND MORE TO CREATE A BALANCED AND THRIVING LEARNING COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS, ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS CONSISTENTLY EXHIBIT PROFESSIONALISM, INTEGRITY AND COMPASSION, MAKING INDISPENSABLE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCES OF STUDENTS AND THE OVERALL SUCCESS OF SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF DESOTO.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, RACHEL L PROCTOR, BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DESOTO, TEXAS, DALLAS COUNTY, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 7TH, 2025 TO APRIL 11TH, 2025, AS NATIONAL ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL WEEK IN THE CITY OF DESOTO. I URGE CITIZENS TO JOIN ME IN EXPRESSING GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION TO ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS FOR THEIR UNWAVERING DEDICATION AND REMARKABLE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE EDUCATION AND WELL-BEING OF OUR YOUTH. IN OFFICIAL RECOGNITION WHEREOF, I HAVE SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF DESOTO TO BE AFFIXED. THE 14TH DAY OF APRIL, 2025. RACHEL L PROCTOR, MAYOR ATTEST. ALICIA THOMAS, CITY SECRETARY. LET'S GIVE THEM ALL A HAND. WITH SOMEONE. LIKE TO GIVE WORDS ON BEHALF OF EVERYONE. OKAY? GOOD

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THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. TO SERVE OUR STUDENTS AT THIS TIME. MISS THOMAS WILL HAVE

[c. Recognition of the Police Department promotions for Lieutenant Bryan Ziegler, Sergeant Rederick Wooten and Corporal Leobardo Gonzalez, Jr.]

THANK YOU, ALICIA. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER. AND ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT WE DO IS TO PROMOTE OUR PEOPLE UP AND WATCH THEM GROW INTO THE NEW POSITIONS AND LEAD THIS DEPARTMENT. AND THEY'RE OUR FUTURE LEADERS OF THE DEPARTMENT AND OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE HAVE THREE PROMOTIONS TONIGHT. AND I'M GOING TO CALL UP OUR FIRST PERSON THAT'S GETTING PROMOTED, LEOBARDO GONZALEZ, COME ON UP WITH YOUR YOUR FAMILY. AND. LEOBARDO IS GETTING PROMOTED TO CORPORAL FROM OFFICER AND PENDING ON HIS NEW BADGE IS HIS SON SANTIAGO GONZALEZ, I'M SURE ASSISTED BY HIS WIFE, MARIA. COME ON UP.

ASSISTANT CHIEF CHESNIC IS HELPING US OUT AND HE'S GOING TO PRESENT THE BADGE TO SANTIAGO.

THERE YOU GO. CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. COME ON. UP. THERE YOU GO. LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. HERE WE GO. ONE. TWO. THREE. GRADUATIONS. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS FREDERICK WOOTEN. HE'S GOING FROM CORPORAL TO SERGEANT AND PINNING ON HIS.

HIS NEW BADGE WILL BE HIS WIFE, MIA WOOTEN. COME ON UP WITH MIA AND YOUR WHOLE FAMILY AND WHOEVER ELSE YOU WANT TO COME ON UP WITH. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO. HERE WE GO.

YEAH, THAT WAS VERY GOOD. GOOD JOB. LET'S GET IN HERE. ONE. TWO. THREE. OH! VERY GOOD. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS BRIAN ZIEGLER GOING FROM SERGEANT TO LIEUTENANT. AND HIS WIFE, CRYSTAL ZIEGLER IS GOING TO PIN ON HIS BADGE AND FAMILY. COME ON UP. THIS IS THE TIME YOU CAN PIN THEM. YOU CAN STAB THEM. GOOD JOB. GOOD. THIS IS. CONGRATULATIONS.

GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. OKAY, LET'S GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. THANK YOU. AND THAT CONCLUDES

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[d. Presentation of Quarterly Crime Stats]

MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, MR. CITY MANAGER, AS WE'VE BEEN DOING OUR QUARTERLY CRIME STATS, I'M HERE TO PRESENT THOSE AGAIN, CRIME STATS REPORT FOR JANUARY TO MARCH 2025. AS YOU CAN SEE, SEVERAL SEVERAL AREAS WENT DOWN. WE'RE AT 392 FOR THE YEAR. I'LL HAVE A COMPARISON WITH WHAT WENT DOWN AT THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE HERE SHOWS YOU WHERE THOSE CRIMES TAKE PLACE. WHAT DISTRICTS ARE THERE IN ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT SEVERAL AREAS, MOST AREAS WENT DOWN FOR THAT SAME TIME FRAME FROM JANUARY OF 2024. OVERALL, WE HAD 422 TOTAL CRIMES IN 2024 FOR THE SAME TIME FRAME, AND THIS YEAR WE HAD 392 SO FAR THIS YEAR. SO WE'VE GONE DOWN 8.4% ACTUALLY FROM LAST YEAR. AND LAST YEAR WE WERE DOWN 8% OVER THE WHOLE YEAR. SO WE'RE DOWN ANOTHER 8.4 THIS THIS QUARTER. LET'S HOPE THAT WE KEEP TRENDING DOWN. AND WE WENT DOWN IN THREE OF THE FOUR DISTRICTS. DISTRICT FOUR WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WENT UP BY 1514 CRIMES. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. CHIEF COUNSEL. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES. COUNCILMEMBER RAPHAEL, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION AS IT RELATES TO WHEN RESIDENTS HEAR GUNSHOTS. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT THE NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN. WE'D LOVE TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE, DOES THIS MEAN THAT THERE'S GREATER PRESENCE ON THE ROADS? SO THAT'S ONE QUESTION. ANOTHER QUESTION IS AS IT RELATES TO GUNSHOTS, HOW IS THAT DOCUMENTED WHEN YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW. HOW WAS THAT DOCUMENTED. HOW DO YOU LABEL IT. IS THAT A CRIME. GUNSHOTS WHEN NO ONE IS INJURED, MAYBE EVEN NO ONE IS CAUGHT OR WHEN SOMEONE IS CAUGHT WITH GUNSHOTS? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN A REPORT? A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK I GOT THEM ALL. FIRST OF ALL, WHY? WHY DOES THE CRIME LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING DOWN? AND YOU ASKED ABOUT PRESENCE AND THAT'S THAT'S PART OF IT. THAT'S THAT'S ONE PART OF IT. WE HAVE OUR CITIZENS ARE GETTING BETTER AT CALLING IN CRIMES AND CALLING IN THINGS THAT LOOK SUSPICIOUS, SO WE CAN EITHER DETER CRIME OR STOP IT BEFORE IT, BEFORE IT HAPPENS. AND SO IT'S ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CALLING IN. IT'S ABOUT OUR PRESENCE, MORE VISIBILITY. AND, YOU KNOW, WE DO A GOOD JOB OUT THERE. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S THAT ALL WEIGHS IN AS FAR AS THE GUNSHOTS. SO IF THERE'S WE DON'T HAVE SOMEONE TO. ARREST OR. SAY THAT THEY, THEY COMMITTED A SHOOTING A GUN. WE DON'T HAVE ANY WITNESSES. WE DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE. THEN THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S NO CRIME, IF YOU WILL, IF WE DON'T CATCH ANYBODY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO CHARGE, IF WE HAVE A VICTIM, THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A CRIME.

SO WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT, SEE IF WE CAN FIND OUT WHO THE PERPETRATOR WAS AND MAKE AN ARREST OR AN INDICTMENT AND SO ON. OKAY. SO HOW IS IT? IS IT WHEN IT SHOWS UP, DOES IT SHOW UP AS A RECORDING? SO IF IT'S THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS, THEY HEARD GUNSHOTS IN THE AREA, THEY CALL POLICE. BUT OF COURSE THERE'S NO ONE THERE. AND YOU KNOW, ALL WE HAVE IS JUST THEM, YOU KNOW, AS EAR WITNESSES TO GUNSHOTS IN THE AREA. IS THAT DOCUMENTED OR HOW IS THAT? YES, THEY'RE ALL DOCUMENTED. ANY CALL FOR SERVICE THAT COMES IN THROUGH DISPATCH WILL BE DOCUMENTED. WE'LL DISPATCH CARS TO THAT AREA WHERE IT IS, WHERE IT'S REPORTED. IF THERE'S AGAIN, NO WITNESSES, NO CRIMES, NO CRIMINAL THAT THAT CAUSED THAT, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE. WE MAY LOOK AT RING CAMERAS, IF THEY'RE ON THE STREET, TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND OUT WHERE IT CAME FROM. BUT USUALLY WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT AREA OF WHERE THAT IS. AND SO THAT'S HARD FOR US TO DO ANY KIND OF FORWARD INVESTIGATION. BUT THEY ARE DOCUMENTED. AND WE DO KEEP TRACK OF THOSE GUNSHOT CALLS. SOMETIMES WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GUNSHOT, IF IT'S A BACKFIRE, IF IT'S FIREWORKS. AND THAT'S USUALLY WHAT WE GET. AND IT COULD BE A GUNSHOT. BUT IT MAY NOT BE DOCUMENTED AS THAT.

BUT WE DO KEEP TRACK OF ALL THOSE THAT COME INTO DISPATCH AND CALLS FOR SERVICE. NOW WE DO HAVE SHOTSPOTTER, AND SHOTSPOTTER WILL DETERMINE IF IT'S BEEN A REAL GUNSHOT. AND IF

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YES. I PROVIDED AN UPDATE FOR JANUARY TO MARCH RIGHT AT THE END. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND SO I KNOW I'VE ASKED THIS SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE, BUT I WAS JUST GOING TO SEE IF I COULD ASK IT AGAIN. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOR THESE NUMBERS TO BE PUT ON ON THE WEBSITE? THEY ARE THERE.

THE, THE, THE WEBSITE NOW HAS THE TOWN HALL PRESENTATION AND WE ARE GOING TO LIKE YOU ASKED, KEEP THOSE ON THERE EVERY MONTH. WE'LL PUT THOSE ON THERE SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THAT GRAPH WAS.

THE LAST GRAPH I SHOWED. OH IT'S ON THE REGULAR WEBSITE, NOT THE POLICE WEBSITE. IT'S ON THE WEBSITE, THE POLICE, THE POLICE TAB WEBSITE. I'M SORRY. SHE WAS SAYING SOMETHING. I'M SORRY.

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THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE DATA INFORMATION ON THAT'S BEEN AN ONGOING CONVERSATION CPAC IS ACTUALLY HAVING RIGHT. AND HAS BEEN HAVING FOR MONTHS NOW ON WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE. HOPING TO BRING THAT BACK TO THE COUNCIL AS WELL FROM A VISIBILITY. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT WAS THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A DISTINCT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CRIME AND A CALL, AND WHAT I HEARD ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE DAY IS, WAS A ASK FOR THE CALLS THAT YOU GET. AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAD AT ONE POINT WERE PUTTING THAT INFORMATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA. BUT OF COURSE, WITHOUT CONTEXT, IT KIND OF GOES EVERYWHERE. AND THE ON EVERYWHERE ON THE WEB. SO IN, IN VARIOUS PLACES. SO I THINK WITH, IN TERMS OF HAVING A MONTHLY REPORT, THEN THE CALL INFORMATION IS PROBABLY IDEAL, RIGHT? I DON'T THINK IT TELLS US IT WON'T TELL YOU IF CRIME IS UP OR DOWN, BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN CALL 911 FOR EVERYTHING. RIGHT? BUT I THINK IT ANSWERS THE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT TYPES OF CALLS ARE YOU ALL GETTING? AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU ALREADY HAVE THE DATA THAT WHAT ACTUALLY SUBSTANTIATES TO AN ACTUAL CRIME. AND THEN SECONDLY, SINCE THERE ARE NO CITIES IN THIS REGION THAT I COULD FIND, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME, BUT I COULDN'T FIND NONE. THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS POLICE OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS AS AN ACTUAL CRIME FROM THE JUMP. RIGHT. AND SINCE THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION LAST MONTH AS WELL, WHAT I DID WHAT WHAT MR. GODFREY HAS STATED IS THAT THAT IS THE LEGAL PROCESS, RIGHT, OF WAITING UNTIL THE INVESTIGATION IS OVER WITH. HOWEVER, I THINK THAT NARROWING IT DOWN TO JUST OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS KIND OF LIMITS THE SCOPE. RIGHT? I THINK A BETTER OUTLOOK WOULD PROBABLY BE USE OF FORCE IS PROBABLY WHAT MY COLLEAGUE WAS REFERRING TO.

LOOKING AT THAT OR CRITICAL INCIDENTS SO THAT YOU THAT THAT THE COUNCIL ACTUALLY SEES WHAT'S HAPPENING THAT IS NOT BEING THAT IS EITHER BEING INVESTIGATED OR DOESN'T RISE TO THE, THE, THE, THE LABEL OF A CRIME. SO THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU CHIEF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

[e. Presentation of Financial Report March 2025]

I'M SORRY, 934,268. WE ARE AT 73% OF OUR BUDGETED REVENUE IN THE GENERAL FUND. AS OF THE END OF MARCH. THAT PUTS US TRACKING JUST A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THIS TIME LAST YEAR. THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WE WERE AT 76.9%. SO WE'RE LOOKING GOOD IN THE GENERAL FUND AS FAR AS OUR REVENUE IS CONCERNED. OUR EXPENDITURES BUDGETED AMOUNT 63,914,000. YEAR TO DATE, WE HAVE RECEIVED 42.6% OF THAT. THE 42.6% THAT WE HAVE SPENT SO FAR IS JUST TRACKING A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF WHERE WE WERE THIS TIME LAST YEAR ON EXPENSES. THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WE WERE AT 42.4%. I'M SORRY.

POINT OF INFORMATION OR ORDER? WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY READING OFF YOU SAID IS IN THE PACKET. IS

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IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YES YES YES. AND THANK YOU I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. SURE. NO WORRIES. RIGHT THERE. OKAY. CAN WE ZOOM IN JUST A LITTLE BIT? I WILL POINT TO THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER. THANK YOU. GENERAL FUND REVENUE COLLECTED 46 MILLION, 73%, COMPARED TO 76.9% THIS TIME LAST YEAR. KAREN, CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT? ON THE EXPENSE SIDE IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE HAVE SPENT YEAR TO DATE 27,229,000. THAT PUTS US AT 42.6% COMPARED TO 42.4% THIS TIME LAST YEAR. SO WE'RE RIGHT ON TRACK WITH WHERE WE EXPECT TO BE AS OF THE END OF MARCH. WE ARE 50% INTO THE FISCAL YEAR, SO THE GENERAL FUND IS LOOKING REALLY GOOD SO FAR. NEXT, WE'LL MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC UTILITY FUND. AND THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE LARGE REVENUE SOURCES FOR OUR ENTERPRISE FUND, OUR METERED WATER SALES AND SEWER SALE REVENUE BUDGETED 13 MILLION YEAR TO DATE, RECEIVED 6.1 FOR WATER SALES. 16 MILLION BUDGETED FOR SEWER, AND SO FAR WE BROUGHT IN 7.8 MILLION TOTAL REVENUE COLLECTED FOR WATER. SEWER FUND 14,218,000. SO THAT IS EXACTLY ALMOST WHERE WE WERE THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WITH REVENUE FOR EXPENSES. WE ARE AT 44.5%. OF COURSE, WE KNOW WE HAVE OUR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES HERE LISTED. OUR PUBLIC UTILITY ADMINISTRATION, THE UTILITY BILLING DEPARTMENT, FIELD OPERATIONS AND NON-DEPARTMENTAL.

THEY'RE ALL WITHIN WHERE WE EXPECT TO BE THIS TIME OF YEAR, 44.5%, COMPARED TO 43.7% THIS TIME LAST YEAR. IN OUR SANITATION FUND. WE HAVE OUR VARIOUS REVENUE SOURCES LISTED HERE. OUR BUDGET IS 7.3 MILLION, AND YEAR TO DATE WE HAVE RECEIVED 3.5 MILLION. THAT PUTS US 48.2% COMPARED TO 51% THIS TIME LAST YEAR. ONE OF THE REVENUE SOURCES, OF COURSE, THAT IT'S STILL UP 188.4% OUR REVENUE. BUT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, OF COURSE, WE KNOW WE RECEIVED SIGNIFICANTLY MORE INTEREST REVENUE BECAUSE OF THE RATES AND EVERYTHING, BUT WE'RE STILL LOOKING REALLY GOOD WITH OUR SANITATION REVENUE, OUR SANITATION EXPENSES. ARE AT. WE HAVE SPENT 2.4 MILLION SO FAR. THAT PUTS US AT 34.3% COMPARED TO 37.3% THIS TIME LAST YEAR.

HERE IS OUR REPORT FOR MARCH 2025. AS YOU CAN SEE FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH, WE ARE AT 17.2%.

WE DID HAVE AN UNUSUALLY HIGH NUMBER IN MARCH AND FEBRUARY, WHICH WE'RE PROUD OF DUE TO SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE AT MACOWAN PARK AND OUR YEAR TO DATE TOTAL IS 4.2%. SO FAR, WE

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I'M ONLY LOOKING AT THE REPORT THAT'S IN FRONT OF US. I WAS REALLY JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. WAS THAT JUST A QUICK LOOK AT THAT. AND YOU THOUGHT IT WAS A ONE. IT WAS REALLY A TWO. LET ME LOOK. AND WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS ABOUT THE 20% AND THE 17%. I'LL GO AHEAD AND LET YOU FINISH THAT OTHER PART BEFORE I ASK THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED. SO ON THE HUB REPORT. IS SHOWING OUR NET AP IS 27 MILLION. 145 246 OKAY. SO THAT WAS JUST OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND SO WHILE I WAS LOOKING AT THIS EARLIER TODAY, I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH AND I WAS LOOKING AROUND AT OTHER CITIES AND OTHER CITIES, ACTUALLY HAS A PLACE ON THEIR WEBSITE THAT DEALS WITH HUB. SPECIFICALLY, IT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT ACTUALLY HAS A SITE FOR THAT. AND I JUST WONDERED BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HIT IT IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH, AND I KIND OF FIGURED IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT WAS BEING DONE AT ARC. BUT I DID WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE WE HAVE THE 20% RULE. IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS CORRECTLY, WE BROUGHT IN LESS MONEY IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH THAN WE DID IN OCTOBER, AND WE HAD A WAY LESS PERCENTAGE OF HUB USAGE. IS IT BECAUSE HAVE WE DONE ANYTHING DIFFERENT IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH BESIDES THE ARC? WE HAD NOT. SO THERE WAS NO EFFORT DONE BY THE CITY. I DON'T WANT TO SAY THERE WAS NO EFFORT. WE HAVE OUR PROGRAMS IN PLACE. EXTRA EFFORT. I'M SORRY. YEAH, WE HAVE OUR PROGRAMS IN PLACE THAT WE USE AND WE DO THAT ON A CONTINUAL BASIS. RIGHT. BUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE ARC CENTER, I CAN'T CONTRIBUTE IT TO THE TO THE FEBRUARY MARCH NUMBERS. OKAY. SO THAT WAS THE REASON WHY I WENT AND DID A LITTLE RESEARCH AND I LOOKED ON OUR WEBSITE. WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL PAGE THAT ACTUALLY SAYS HUB FUNDS. IT DOESN'T SAY THAT SPECIFICALLY. THERE'S A SECTION THAT TALKS ABOUT HUB, BUT OTHER OF OUR NEIGHBORING SISTER CITIES THAT ARE AROUND OUR SIZE, THEY HAVE AN ACTUAL PAGE THAT IS DEDICATED TO THAT. AND I JUST WAS WONDERING IF MAYBE THAT COULD HELP. BOOSTER, SINCE THE SINCE THE GOAL IS ALWAYS 20%. IF WE KNOW WE CAN HIT THE 20%, IF THERE'S SOME, MAYBE SOMETHING WE AS A CITY CAN DO THAT WOULD HELP

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HOWEVER, IT IS EXPECTED THAT THEY MANAGE THE BUDGET AS A BUSINESS, MEANING THAT WITH THE OVERTIME THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IT DOES NOT EXCEED THE BUDGETED AMOUNT. MIGHT I ASK IF I KNOW THAT, CHIEF, YOU ALSO MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS REGARDING OVERTIME ABOUT REIMBURSEMENTS. WILL THAT NUMBER GO INTO TO WILL THAT NUMBER REDUCE THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? BECAUSE LIKE WE SAID, IT IS GETTING CLOSE TO THE LIMIT. HOWEVER, I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S SOMETHING TO OFFSET THAT THAT WE SHOULD BE ANTICIPATING AS WELL. SO I ALWAYS SAY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE SHOULD REPORT EITHER FINANCE DEPARTMENT OR US. AND IT WAS OVER 150,000 LAST TIME I LOOKED. I DIDN'T LOOK AT IT TO SEE WHAT IT IS TODAY. BUT WE DO HAVE 150,000 MEANING FOR THIS, FOR THIS UP TO THIS POINT, UP TO THIS POINT THAT WE COULD LOOK AT TO OFFSET THAT NUMBER. THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE ARE 150,000 LESS.

SO JUST IF I'M. I'M SORRY, IF I MIGHT ADD, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT CAN BE REPORTED SOMEWHERE SO THAT MAYBE IT WOULDN'T LOOK AS BAD, YOU KNOW, AND I AND I GET IT THAT THERE'S THIS OTHER STUFF THAT WE HAVE, BUT IT'S NOT SHOWN ANYWHERE WHERE THAT THAT NUMBER IS. AND THEN SECONDLY, I DON'T KNOW IF CITY MANAGER WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I ASKED EARLIER ABOUT THE WEBSITE FOR THE HUB. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A RESPONSE TO THAT. AS FAR AS THE OVERTIME THAT THE I'M SORRY, EXCUSE ME. THE IT'S 249 IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE. SO 249,000 WAS REIMBURSED BACK TO US, WHICH WOULD COME OFF OF THAT, WHATEVER OUR TOTAL IS THAT WE SPENT SO FAR 480. SO YOU SUBTRACT 249. WE'RE STILL WELL WITHIN OUR BUDGET. WE SHOULDN'T GO OVER.

OKAY. SO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE ACTUAL BUDGET, THERE'S A PAGE THAT GIVES SOME SEMBLANCE OF SUMMARY, IF YOU WILL. AND THAT'S I'M JUST ASKING, IS THERE A WAY THAT MAYBE IT CAN BE PUT THERE SO THAT WE DON'T EVEN ASK? BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, WOW, THAT'S KIND OF HIGH. EVEN THOUGH WE HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT. SURE. SO EACH MONTH FOR THE FINANCIAL REPORT, YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IT ON THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE PAGE. AND IT'S UNDER INTERGOVERNMENTAL. SO THE BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR IS 399,000. AS CHIEF STATED SO FAR WE RECEIVED 249,000. AND COUNCIL MEMBER. THAT'S THE DILEMMA THAT WE HAVE. AND WE NEED TO INTERNALLY FIGURE THAT OUT BECAUSE ANY ANY REVENUES THAT WE GET AS A RESULT OF POLICE SERVICES GETS BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS TYPICALLY THE CASE, BUT WE NEED TO EARMARK IT OR INCLUDE IT SOMEHOW TO REFLECT A, A, A BENEFIT OR CREDIT TO THE POLICE, TO THE POLICE, OVERTIME. OKAY. IS IT POSSIBLE, LIKE SHE MENTIONED, TO NOT WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY OVERCOMPLICATE IT UNTIL WE FIND A WAY TO GET IT IN THIS SYSTEM WITH THE TYLER SYSTEM OR WHATNOT. JUST INCLUDE IT AS A SUMMARY ITEM THAT THAT'S WHERE THE NUMBER IS, SINCE IT SINCE IT IS OF, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS OF CONCERN FOR COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THAT. YES, MA'AM. WHERE WHAT I WILL TAKE GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY MANAGER. IT STATED ON THE FINANCIAL REPORT UNDER GENERAL FUND REVENUE, IT'S INTERGOVERNMENTAL. WE HAVE WE CALL IT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE STANDARD OF WHAT WE CALL WHEN WE WHEN WE'RE RECEIVING FUNDS THAT ARE DUE TO US FROM ANOTHER GOVERNMENT UNIT. SO THAT IS THE

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IT ACTUALLY SAYS IT. IT HAS INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT TO DO, HOW TO GET INVOLVED, HOW TO, YOU KNOW, HOW TO GET REGISTERED THOSE. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PAGE THAT SAYS TO REGISTER, BUT IT'S KIND OF HIDDEN IN, IN IN ALL OF THE WORK. IT'S NOT ITS OWN PAGE. AND MAYBE IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO BRING THIS OUT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN KNOW THAT THIS IS A THING, UNLESS WE'RE REALLY NOT TRYING TO REACH THE 20%. MAYBE THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION IS. IS THERE A WAY TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE PRONOUNCED TO THE PUBLIC? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I'M SORRY.

NO, I THINK WE'RE I THINK WE'RE CLEAR. I THINK IT'S JUST IT'LL. AND THE CITY MANAGER WAS JUST KIND OF DROPPING A BUG IN MY EAR. BUT I THINK IF YOU WANT TO JUST KIND OF GIVE YOUR GIVE IT ABOUT REVAMPING THE WHOLE PROGRAM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY BECAUSE, YEAH, COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD ACTUALLY HAS WB AT PROCESS AS AN ITEM ALREADY DISCUSSED. AND TO THAT POINT, THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN CHISHOLM. I WAS JUST GOING TO UNDERSCORE THAT AS WELL. TO THAT POINT, COUNCIL HAS TALKED ABOUT. AND WE DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR INTO THE WEEDS WITH THIS TOPIC BECAUSE IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY AN AGENDA ITEM. HOWEVER, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT EVEN THE CONSIDERATION FOR CHANGING THAT TARGET NUMBER, BECAUSE 20%, WHILE IT'S A LOFTY GOAL AND IT'S A WORTHWHILE GOAL, IS IT REALISTIC FOR DE SOTO AND THE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, AND UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AS TO WHY, YOU KNOW, DE SOTO CANNOT CLASSIFY YOU.

EVEN IF WE CAN LOOK AT YOU AND TELL THAT YOU ARE MWB, WE STILL CANNOT CLASSIFY YOU AS THAT UNLESS YOU ARE CERTIFIED. AND SO UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW WHICH, THIS IS A CHALLENGE FOR EVERY CITY. SO IT'S NOT JUST DE SOTO WHAT SOME OF THE HESITANCY IS OR SOME OF THE LAG WITH PEOPLE GETTING CERTIFIED, THAT ALSO STILL PRESENTS A CHALLENGE. SO WE DO HAVE IT COMING UP ON A WORK SESSION TOPIC TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BYRD. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MISS SUTTON, THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS BEING ON TOP OF YOUR GAME. I PERSONALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND WHAT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE IS DOING. I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS. IS NOTHING EARTH SHATTERING, BUT I DO. I KNOW THAT THE SALES TAX LINE, THE REVENUE AND THE GENERAL FUND IS A IS A LAGGING NUMBER. I KNOW THAT WE'RE A COUPLE OF MONTHS BEHIND. YEAH. HOWEVER, WITH THE WAY THAT THE ECONOMY IS CURRENTLY GOING, I WOULD ASK THAT WE KIND OF TRACK IT AND SEE IF WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING IN LESS MONEY, YOU KNOW, AS THE ECONOMY SLOWS OR DO WHATEVER IT'S DOING RIGHT NOW, I'M KIND OF VERY CONCERNED WITH THAT AS WELL AS I'M THIS THIS IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER TO IS THE INTEREST REVENUE, BECAUSE WHERE OUR MONIES SHOULD BE SETTING I THERE IS A MAJOR DECLINE IN THE INTEREST REVENUE

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FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE WATER SEWER FUND HAS PROJECTS, SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS COMING UP WHERE VENDORS ARE GOING TO NEED PAYMENT, WE WON'T INVEST THOSE FUNDS. WE NEED TO KEEP THOSE FUNDS LIQUID.

WHEREAS IN THE GENERAL FUND, SOMETIMES WE HAVE A BIGGER FUND BALANCE. WE ARE ABLE TO INVEST MORE. WE CAN WAIT OUT, WAIT UNTIL PROJECTS KIND OF COME INTO FRUITION BEFORE, BEFORE WE NEED THAT MUCH LIQUIDITY. WE DO HAVE ALL OF OUR QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORTS OUT THERE ON THE WEBSITE IF YOU WOULD LIKE. WHAT WE COULD DO IS GO THROUGH AND PREPARE SOMETHING FOR YOU TO SHOW HOW MUCH EACH FUND HAS IN INVESTMENTS. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR THIS YEAR, WE'VE COLLECTED 56.9% IN REVENUE COMPARED TO 152%. WELL THAT'S MASSIVE, RIGHT? BUT WE KNOW THAT AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, INTEREST RATES WERE AT 5%, AND SINCE THEN THE FEDS HAS DROPPED IT TWICE AT LEAST. SO THAT THAT ATTRIBUTES TO THAT. BUT SURE, THAT MAKES SENSE. WE COULD PREPARE SOMETHING TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL TO SHOW HOW MUCH GENERAL FUND HAS INVESTED VERSUS SANITATION AND PUBLIC UTILITIES AND SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDS. I THINK YOU JUST ANSWERED MY QUESTION. IT WAS THAT IT? YEAH. ABOUT THE DECLINE IN THE FAIR RATES. I FORGOT THAT THE INTEREST RATES HAD BEEN DROPPED. YES. AND TWICE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DROP IT ANOTHER TIME OR YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S THAT'S THE REASONING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CHISHOLM. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. LOVE THE SHORT HAIR. THANK YOU. JUST IN TIME FOR THE SUMMER, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. SO THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES ARE SLIGHTLY ABOVE BUDGETED PERCENTAGE. RIGHT. SO I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S DRIVING THAT. ARE THERE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE THAT YOU'RE TRACKING THAT ARE HIGHER THAN EXPECTED ON THEIR SPENDING? YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NOT I MEAN THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL ACTUALLY LOOKING GOOD, RIGHT? RIGHT. AT MARCH, WE'RE AT 50% INTO THE FISCAL YEAR. SO YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT A LOT OF THE VARIATIONS YOU'RE SEEING AS FAR AS EXPENDITURES IN THE GENERAL FUND, PROBABLY 70% OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS PERSONNEL, RIGHT? SO IF YOU SEE IT LOWER THIS TIME LAST YEAR, IT'S BECAUSE OF STAFFING. EITHER WE HAD A POSITION THAT WAS BUDGETED AND NOT FILLED OR IT WAS FILLED LATER IN THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT NOTHING THAT I SEE OF ANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE OF PARTICULAR CONCERN. ALL OF THEM ARE RIGHT AT 50% OR BELOW, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NON-DEPARTMENTAL AND NON-DEPARTMENTAL IS ONE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF THINGS BUDGETED THERE THAT WE CAN'T PARTICULARLY PREDICT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, BUT I DON'T I FEEL LIKE WE'RE WE'RE WHERE WE NEED TO BE. WE NEED TO BE. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WAS RELATED TO THE PUBLIC UTILITY FUND. AND THE REVENUE IS YOU QUOTED IN YOUR INITIAL SUMMARY WAS 46.6%. AND IS THAT BECAUSE WE'RE 50% THROUGH THE BUDGET AT THIS POINT? IS THAT ARE THERE SOME SEASONAL PATTERNS THAT YOU'RE EXPECTING TO PUSH THAT OVER? I KNOW THAT IN THE SUMMERTIME, WE TYPICALLY SEE MORE OF THE WATER AND THINGS LIKE THAT USED. BUT ALSO I WAS EXPECTING TO SEE A BIT OF A JUMP JUST WITH THE RATE INCREASES THAT WE SAW, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT WAS FACTORED IN THE BUDGET AS WELL TOO. RIGHT. SO. ALL RIGHT, I DON'T KNOW. HEY, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM, TO YOUR QUESTION, YOUR FIRST QUESTION IS, YES, WE DO SEE CYCLICAL PATTERNS EVERY YEAR AROUND THIS TIME DURING THE SPRINGTIME WHEN, YOU KNOW, APRIL WAS TO SAY APRIL, APRIL SHOWERS BRING MAY FLOWERS, BUT SO DOES MARCH DOES AS WELL. SO HAD A PRETTY WET MARCH. SO NOT A LOT OF IRRIGATION CAR WASHES AND SUCH LIKE THAT GOING ON. BUT ALSO TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE RATE INCREASES WHEN WE DO A RATE INCREASE, WE ALSO PROJECT PROPORTIONATELY OUR REVENUE REQUIREMENTS AS WELL. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE MONEY OVER THE PREVIOUS, I GUESS, THE PREVIOUS REVENUE LINE ITEM THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE AS WELL PROPORTIONATELY WITH OUR RATE INCREASE. THAT MAKES SENSE. IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. I THINK YOU SAID IT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CLARIFYING THAT. I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I GOT. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER RAFAEL.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AS WELL. I WANT TO GO BACK TO A COUPLE OF THINGS. IT WAS JUST GOING LOOKING AT THE GENERAL REVENUE, GENERAL FUND REVENUE

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REALLY NOT SURE EVERY TIME YOU'RE SAYING. THAT, OKAY, I'M GOING TO TAKE A STAB AT IT AND I'LL DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH ON IT. BUT IT'S PROBABLY CALLED IOS AND THEY'VE IMPACTED US. THEY'VE IMPACTED US A LOT WITH HAVING HAVING IT THERE. OH OKAY. OKAY. YEAH OKAY.

WELL I APPRECIATE OKAY. WHAT THAT BREAKDOWN LOOKED LIKE BECAUSE I REMEMBER LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR WE WENT TO IN OVERALL SERVICES WITH PARKS AND REC, $1 MILLION. YES. OKAY. YES OKAY. THAT'S A BIG SO YEAH. SO IT'S IMPACTING US. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MISS SAID I SEE NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTS.

[f. Presentation of department updates on FY 2025 Business Plan goals]

MAKING THOSE PRESENTATIONS ARE PARKS DIRECTOR CHRIS GLOVER AND POLICE CHIEF JOE COSTA. GOOD EVENING, MR. GLOVER. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. LET'S SEE. OKAY. OUR AQUATIC AND RECREATION CENTER. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN EVEN THE PLAYING FIELD JUST A LITTLE BIT. FROM THAT LAST QUESTION I RECEIVED. OKAY. OF COURSE THIS IS THIS OBJECTIVE IS ABOUT OUR MCCOWAN MASTER PLAN CONSTRUCTING OUR AQUATICS AND NATATORIUM. AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR MASTER PLAN. AND. RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING IS COMING ALONG FINE. I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE PROJECTED TO HAVE OUR SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DONE IN DECEMBER, AND WE'RE ON SCHEDULE TO OPEN ACTUALLY IN MARCH OF 26.

AND SO THAT'S GOING WELL ON OUR PHILANTHROPY, PHILANTHROPY AND PRIVATE SECTOR NAMING RIGHTS. WE HAVEN'T REALLY STARTED THAT AS OF RIGHT NOW. WE'VE HAD WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING SOME

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AND OF COURSE OUR CONSTRUCTION COST IS 55 MILLION. WE HAVE OUR GUARANTEED MAX. WITH THAT AND THEN OTHER CONSIDERATIONS ARE OPERATIONS COST WITH OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY IS RIGHT AROUND $3 MILLION. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE REVENUE TO OFFSET SOME OF THAT COST. AND WE ARE ALSO EXPLORING OPTIONS OF. SUBMITTING AN RFP TO TEST THE WATERS TO SEE HOW OPERATIONAL COSTS WOULD BE IF WE ACTUALLY PUT IT OUT ON THE MARKET. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO COUNCILMAN BURKE? THANK YOU, MR. GLOVER. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND A CONCERN. THE PHILANTHROPY EFFORTS. OKAY. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR SOME TIME, SO I AM WHAT WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE GAME PLAN? YOU SAID THAT YOU HAVEN'T STARTED ANYTHING YET. I'D LIKE TO JUST SIMPLY KNOW THE GAME PLAN. AND WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO START? IS IT SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO FORM OUT TO PROFESSIONALS TO FIND THOSE THOSE DOLLARS? IS IT SOMETHING? AND SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO FORM IT OUT, WHY HAVEN'T WE STARTED? WHEN WILL WE START? WHAT ARE WE WAITING ON TO START. SO I'D LIKE TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT, OF COURSE, A LITTLE BIT DEEPER THAN WHAT WAS ON THE SURFACE ACTUALLY. WE PUT OUT AN RFP AND WE PROBABLY WILL CONTRACT IT OUT. WE PUT ONE OUT BEFORE WE HAD A COUPLE OF COMPANIES THAT ACTUALLY THAT WAS I THINK THAT WAS LAST FISCAL YEAR WHERE WE PUT IT OUT. WE HAD A COUPLE OF COMPANIES THAT RESPONDED, AND THEN ONE COMPANY ENDED UP BAILING OUT ON US, AND THE OTHER ONE, IT REALLY WASN'T A REALLY GOOD DEAL FOR US AS FAR AS THE PERCENTAGE OF MONEY THAT THEY WANTED BACK. AND SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF PUTTING THAT RFP BACK OUT. AND THEN ONCE WE GET IT BACK OUT NOW, SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT CAME UP WITH, LIKE COMERICA THAT'S IN FRISCO, CHECKING WITH SOME BANKS AND SEEING IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN COMING IN AND POTENTIALLY RUNNING THEIR BUSINESS, ACTUALLY IN THE FACILITY FOR THOSE TYPES OF NAMING RIGHTS. SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE WE'VE DISCUSSED. BUT AGAIN, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL HAVE TO OUTSOURCE THAT SERVICE. SERVICE THAT THAT PARTICULAR APPROACH IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN JUST GETTING MONEY TO HAVE YOUR NAME ON THE BUILDING. YOU'RE ALSO GIVING UP REAL ESTATE FOR IT, CORRECT? WELL, YEAH. IF WE DECIDE TO GO THAT ROUTE. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. I WOULD REALLY REQUEST THAT WE MAKE THAT A PRIORITY BECAUSE I THINK THE FURTHER ALONG WE GET TO OPENING IT UP, OKAY. THE LESS OF AN OPPORTUNITY WE WILL HAVE IN IF IT, IF IT ENTAILS PARTICULARLY GOING TO PROFESSIONALS THAT RAISE THAT KIND OF CAPITAL. OKAY. AND JUST AT LEAST HAVING SOME TYPE OF GAME PLAN BECAUSE I THINK AT THIS POINT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TYPE OF MONEY. I KNOW THAT I SIT ON THE BOARD WITH BAYLOR AND FOR NAMING RIGHTS OF THEIR NEW ER, IT WAS $10 MILLION. I DON'T THINK THAT WE KNOW THOSE TYPES OF NUMBERS YET. NO WE DON'T, AND I WOULD I WOULD THINK THAT THIS IF WE'RE IF WE ARE EIGHT MONTHS AWAY FROM SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION, I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD BE KIND OF GETTING OUR HEADS AROUND IT AND AT LEAST HAVING SOMEONE AT THE TABLE. SO I WANT TO JUST KIND OF ENCOURAGE US TO, TO MOVE THAT FORWARD, OKAY. OR AT LEAST FIND THE COMPANY THAT CAN DO THAT. OKAY. YEAH. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THAT OUT. AND YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SEE UP THERE, WE WERE WE PUT IT IN OUR QUARTER TWO TO START. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY IN QUARTER TWO NOW. BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT A PRIORITY AND GET IT OUT RIGHT OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BYRD. MR. GLOVER, I DO HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. AND I'VE SLEPT SINCE THEN, SINCE YOU PRESENTED SOME OF THIS INFORMATION SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE OPERATIONAL COSTS OF I'M TRYING TO GET MY HEAD WRAPPED AROUND IT. HAVE WE DISCUSSED, LIKE, WHAT COST RECOVERY CAN OR WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THAT FACILITY? I KNOW YOU MENTIONED 3 MILLION AND JUST KIND OF A REALLY JUST A BALLPARK NUMBER, BUT DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT ACTUALLY WOULD COULD LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF COST RECOVERY? BECAUSE I KNOW WE'LL HAVE SOME FEES AND ALL OF THAT TYPE OF STUFF. CORRECT. ACCORDING TO OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY, IT WILL BE AT 70% OF OUR COST RECOVERY. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S BASED OFF OF OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY. SO SURE OKAY. AND 70% IS THAT'S WITHIN THE NORMAL RANGE THOUGH RIGHT. BECAUSE I'VE HEARD EVEN AS HIGH AS 90 I MEAN IT CAN GO AS HIGH AS 100 I SUPPOSE OR ABOVE. BUT THAT'S THAT'S WITHIN THE NORMAL RANGE OR, OR AS EXPECTED FOR A FACILITY OF THIS TYPE. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. YES. OKAY. AND FOR THE YOU MENTIONED FOR THE NAMING RIGHTS,

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GENERALLY THERE IS A PERCENTAGE AND THAT'S WHAT THE OUTSOURCING DOES. YOU OUTSOURCE IT AND THEN THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT PROPOSALS, BASICALLY LETTING US KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF MONEY THAT COMES IN. AND BASED OFF OF THE PERCENTAGE OF MONEY THAT COMES IN FROM WHATEVER COMES IN THAT IS THAT'S EXACTLY UNDERSTOOD. THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND IT BETTER NOW. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER RAFAEL THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THIS UPDATE. AS IT RELATED TO THE RECENT WALK THROUGH WITH THE I THINK THE DIVING TEAM. WHAT WAS THAT? I WAS WHEN I SAW IT, IT MADE ME THINK OH ARE THEY CONSIDERING YOU KNOW NAMING OR IS IT. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WAS. IS THAT RELATIONSHIP BUILDING FOR DOT DOT DOT. YEAH. WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS FACILITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AN ECONOMIC DRIVER AS WELL. AND SO THAT MEETING WAS TO BASICALLY INTRODUCE THE OH I FORGOT HIS TITLE, BUT BUT THE PRESIDENT OF USA, OF USA DIVING. SO IT WAS TO INTRODUCE HIM TO THE FACILITY AND SEE IF THERE WAS A WAY TO POTENTIALLY PARTNER WITH HIM TO GET SOME OLYMPIC, OLYMPIC GAMES OR PRACTICE FACILITIES USING USING OUR, OUR FACILITY. YEAH. OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M SURE THAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP COULD HELP IN THE PROCESS OF THE NAMING RIGHTS AND EVERYTHING TOO. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I SEE NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTS. WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT. OH, MISS GLOVER, IS THAT STILL YOU OR IS THAT CHIEF? I HAVE TWO MORE. OKAY. I'LL BE UP HERE FOR A COUPLE MORE. OKAY.

INCREASE OUR WALKING AND CYCLING PATHS. HIT THAT ONE REAL QUICK. QUICKLY. WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR CONNECTING OUR TRAIL SYSTEM. AND RIGHT NOW I THINK WE HAVE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OVER 13 MILES OF OUR TRAIL. 13.3 KNOW 14.85. SO ALMOST 15 MILES OF TRAILS WITHIN DESOTO. AND THERE'S ABOUT 13 MORE MILES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE JUST COMPLETED A APPLICATION FOR TEXDOT. AND THAT'S WHY THESE NUMBERS ARE REALLY FRESH IN MY MIND. AND ON THAT, THIS 13 MILES OF TRAIL WOULD ACTUALLY CREATE A LOOP TRAIL AROUND THE CITY OF DESOTO.

SO ALL OF OUR MISSING PARTS RIGHT NOW, IT EQUATES TO ABOUT 13, 13.3 MILES. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND WE ACTUALLY JUMPED THE GUN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THIS IS ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO WORK ON WITH, WITH UPDATING OUR TRAILS MASTER PLAN. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL KNOW, BUT EACH EVERY FIVE YEARS WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND UPDATE OUR MASTER PLAN IN ORDER FOR OUR ACCREDITATION. SO THIS IS OUR FIFTH YEAR. SO IN 2025. BUT WE ACTUALLY STARTED THIS TRAIL TRAIL LOOP. WE ACTUALLY STARTED THAT BECAUSE OF THE BECAUSE OF THE TEX DOT GRANT. SO WE'VE STARTED THAT ALREADY. AND OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT IS WITH THE STUDIO. AND THEY'RE THE THEY'RE THE COMPANY THAT ACTUALLY DID OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN BACK IN 20 2020. SO WE'RE IN A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THEM AS WELL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU. JUST A QUICK SO DID WE. SO WE DID GET THE GRANT FROM FROM TEX DOT. NO NO THERE'S PHASES TO IT. AND WE COMPLETED THE FIRST PHASE OF THAT GRANT BY SUBMITTING THAT APPLICATION OKAY. YEAH. IS THIS THE ONE THAT CAME UP A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

THAT OR OR IS THIS THERE WAS A GRANT THAT WAS, THAT WAS THAT WAS IDENTIFIED TO US BY COMMISSIONER JOHN WILEY PRICE. IS THIS THE ONE OR IS THAT A DIFFERENT GRANT THAT THAT WOULD BE THE SAME ONE? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER AND WE'VE SUBMITTED TWO GRANTS. WE'VE MET WITH THE TEX DOT LOCAL OFFICE AS WELL, AND WE'VE GOT SOME GUIDANCE FROM THEM. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO THE SECOND PHASE. AND THE SECOND PHASE WILL COMBINE THE TWO GRANTS INTO ONE, BECAUSE THE

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SO WE DID APPLY FOR THOSE GRANTS. AND THOSE GRANTS INCLUDING INCLUDED TRAILS AND WIDER SIDEWALKS. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER RAFAEL, SURE THING. I KNOW AT ONE POINT WE TALKED ABOUT OUR 88 PLAN, AND SO I THINK I WANT TO GO A COUPLE OF PLACES. SO WITH THAT, IS THERE FUNDING? MY QUESTION WOULD BE AND MAYBE THIS IS SOME RESEARCH, IS THERE FUNDING AVAILABLE RELATED TO ADA. AND THEN COULD THAT BE USED TO HELP ADVANCE, YOU KNOW, PORTIONS OF THIS TRAIL SYSTEM. SO THAT'S THAT'S A QUESTION OKAY. ADA WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN FOR THIS ACTUAL TRAIL. SO THE FUND FUNDING THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR ADA WILL NOT BE A PART OF THE ACTUAL GRANT THAT WE'RE SEEKING. OKAY. THE ADA ADA IS REALLY HOUSED WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES RIGHT NOW. AND SO THIS IS EVEN THOUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS HELPING US WITH THIS. THAT IS A THAT'S AN INDEPENDENT. OKAY. YOU KNOW, THERE WERE CROSS STREETS AND THINGS THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH THAT THAT ARE NOT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ACTUAL TRAIL SYSTEM.

OKAY. I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY IF THERE'S ANOTHER AVENUE LANE THAT WE COULD PROBABLY GO DOWN TO TRY TO GET SOME, SOME, SOME COINS TO HELP WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. AND THEN RELATED TO, RELATED TO THE HOLIDAY DESIGN HOLIDAY. I SKIPPED OVER THAT ONE. WILL A PARADE BE INCLUDED THIS YEAR? I'VE BEEN GETTING QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE DESOTO PARADE. CHRISTMAS PARADE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE DETERMINED THAT AS OF RIGHT NOW, AND THE REASON I SKIPPED THAT IS BECAUSE THIS IS THE ACTUAL MASTER PLAN TRAIL PRESENTATION.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I KIND OF JUMPED OVER THAT ONE. BUT WE HAVEN'T DETERMINED THAT YET. BUT IT'S NOT OUT OF THE REALM OF REALITY FOR US TO ACTUALLY HAVE A PARADE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. GLOVER. I SEE NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTS. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, I BELIEVE CHIEF COSTA HAS. I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE. YOU GOT ONE MORE. YOU'RE TRYING TO RUN ME OFF NOW I CAN.

WE HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD FOR YOU, MR. GLOVER? OKAY. MY APOLOGIES. THANK YOU. NO.

YOU'RE FINE. THIS IS THE KEEP DESOTO BEAUTIFUL PROGRAM, WHICH WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR SPRING CLEANUP ON APRIL THE 26TH. SO. YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S PART OF IT. SO OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY INITIATIVE AND THIS INITIATIVE HAS REALLY BEEN REWARDING, I DON'T KNOW, ON THE, ON THE, ON THE WEEKENDS, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY THAT HAVE ADOPTED STREETS. AND THEY'RE OUT AND THEY'RE CLEANING UP. AND SO IN ORDER, I MEAN, TO REALLY SEE HOW THIS HAS TAKEN OFF FROM, FROM ITS EVOLUTION IS REALLY SOMETHING EXCITING FOR US TO, TO WATCH. I THINK I BROUGHT THIS BEFORE TO YOU ALL, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF IT, WHERE GETTING OUR BUSINESSES INVOLVED. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PLACER. I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECALL THAT AND HOW AS OPPOSED TO JUST GOING TO BUSINESSES AND SAYING, HEY, GIVE US SOME MONEY OR SOME PEOPLE WILL COME AND HELP US DO WHAT WE DO. WE WANTED TO BE ABLE

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YEAH. WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET YOU INVOLVED. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD WITH BUSINESSES WHEN WE'VE APPROACHED THEM IN THE PAST IS THAT THEIR OWNERSHIP DOESN'T LIVE HERE. AND SO WHEN WE'RE GOING TO THE BUSINESSES THERE, THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, CALL THE OWNER, AND THEN WE'RE CALLING THE OWNER AND THE OWNER SAYING, HEY, GO AND TALK TO MY GENERAL MANAGER. AND SO WE KIND OF BEEN CHASING OUR TAILS A LITTLE BIT ON THAT. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN BEING ABLE TO GO BY AND SHOW NUMBERS. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT. AND SO ONCE WE SHOW THOSE NUMBERS, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE IMPACT WITH THE BUSINESS BUZZ BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME ACTUAL DOCUMENTATION SHOWING HOW THEY'RE REALLY BENEFITING SPECIFICALLY FROM WHAT WE DO IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU, I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU. I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE 500 AND 1C3. I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT IDEA. WHERE WOULD IT BE HOUSED? BECAUSE I'M THINKING KIND OF LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS LIKE WE HAVE TRI CITY, THEY HAVE THE FRIENDS OF TRI CITY. WE EVEN USED TO HAVE A FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WAS A 500 AND 1C3. AND I THINK WE WERE EVEN CONSIDERING A FRIENDS OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE BOARD. SO WHERE WOULD IT BE HOUSED AT IF THAT MAKES SENSE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. FRIENDS OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT. AND SO IT WILL PROBABLY BE A SUBSIDIARY OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. YEAH. OKAY. COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I HAD A QUICK QUESTION RELATED TO AND THIS MIGHT NOT BE RIGHT NOW, BUT FOR THE DOWN LINE, BUT JUST THINKING THROUGH YOUR PROCESSES BECAUSE THIS IS A POSITIVE WAY TO GET BUSINESSES TO DO THEIR PART INSIDE OF THE CITY. BUT IS THERE A I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD BE A WARM HANDOFF TO CODE? YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DON'T GET COMPLIANCE, NOT NECESSARILY LIKE, HEY, WE'RE OUT HERE JUST TO JUST TO TELL, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST IN THE PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, WITH SO MANY EXTRA EYES BEING ON ALL OF THIS, JUST MAKING CERTAIN THAT THERE IS A LANE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. IT JUST POPPED OUT AT ME LIKE, WOW, THIS IS AWESOME. AND I AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO IT. BUT I CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE SOME KIND OF FRIENDLY HANDOFF LIKE, HEY, CODE, HERE YOU GO, THAT

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ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MR. GLOVER? OKAY. HEARING NONE. THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. HELLO AGAIN, MADAM MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, THIS WAS TO ON THE BUSINESS PLAN TO DEVELOP NEW WAYS TO PROMOTE AND STRENGTHEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CRIME WATCH PROGRAM AND WAS LINKED TO THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY OF SAFE AND HEALTHY COMMUNITY.

AND KEY INITIATIVE WAS TO DEVELOP NEW WAYS TO PROMOTE AND STRENGTHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CRIME WATCH PROGRAM. BASICALLY TO RESTART IT AND GET IT WORKING A LOT BETTER. SO WE CONDUCTED A TOWN HALL MEETING AS IT WAS ON THURSDAY. IT WAS A COMBINATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM, AS WELL AS THE CRIME STATS REPORTING TOWN HALL SO THAT THAT WAS DONE. WE WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO AGAIN, ADDRESSING ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU'D LIKE US TO COME OUT INTO YOUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS, YOU NEED TO LET US KNOW SO THAT JESSICA RYAN AND MYSELF CAN COME OUT AND TALK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM. AND WE SHE'S GONE TO SEVERAL COMMUNITY EVENTS WHERE THEY'VE, THEY'VE THEY'VE PROPOSED THOSE MEETINGS ON THEIR OWN. AND SHE'S MADE PRESENTATIONS ABOUT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM. AND IN FACT, SHE'S GOTTEN SEVERAL NEW COMMUNITIES TO JOIN AND A COUPLE THAT HAD CRIME WATCH PROGRAMS IN THE PAST. AND THEY'VE THEY'VE REJOINED NOW. SO SHE'S CONDUCTING THOSE KIND OF CLASSES WITH THEM AND HOW TO GET THAT GOING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT'S WORKING REAL WELL. AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY'S MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO DEVELOP MORE AWARENESS TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S ONGOING. AND WE CREATED A CRIME PREVENTION BOOKLET. AND I'M NOT SURE IF ALL OF YOU HAVE SEEN IT, BUT IT'S THIS ONE HERE WITH PROGRAMS FOR CRIME PREVENTION, AND ALSO DID ONE FOR PEOPLE WHO LIKE TO COLOR. SO THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR YOU GUYS. WE WILL GIVE YOU SOME CRAYONS AND WE CAN COLOR COLOR THOSE IN. BUT NO, WE HAVE ONE FOR THE KIDS AND ONE FOR THE ADULTS. SO THOSE THOSE HAVE BEEN DONE AND WE'VE PASSED THOSE OUT.

AND THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TODAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CHISHOLM. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, CHIEF COSTA. I ACTUALLY ONE OF THE HOSE IN PLACE SIX REQUESTED A SPECIAL MEETING, SO I JOINED THEM IN THAT MEETING AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AND PRIVILEGE OF HEARING OFFICER JESSICA'S PRESENTATION, WHICH SHE DID A VERY GREAT JOB, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE PROGRAM. I WAS I DID HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, THOUGH. I THINK WHAT I TOOK AWAY FROM IT, WHAT I WILL, I GUESS WHEN YOU WHAT I WOULD HAVE TAKEN, WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE TAKEN AWAY FROM IT WAS THE ACTUAL SETUP RIGHT THEN AND THERE IN THE MEETING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. LIKE THERE'S A, THERE'S THE EDUCATIONAL PIECE. RIGHT. AND THE BENEFIT AND SHE GOES THROUGH THE BOOKLET TELLS YOU ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT I THINK THAT WHEN YOU HAVE FOLKS THAT WALK AWAY AND THERE'S NOT NOTHING TO SOLIDIFY, IT TAKES THE OPPORTUNITY OF IT NOT COMING TO FRUITION. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S LIKE A AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THERE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING KIND OF LIKE IN SALES, RIGHT? YOU WANT TO HOOK, LINE AND SINK THEM AND, YOU KNOW, BRING THEM ON IN. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE HAVE THEM THERE AT THE TABLE, WE GIVE THEM THE EDUCATION. WE GET THE FORMAL, YOU KNOW, HOOPLA OF THEM AGREEING TO IT RIGHT THEN AND THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PAPERWORK THAT NEEDS TO BE FILLED OUT. THAT'S DONE RIGHT THEN AND THERE. YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE SO MANY WITNESSES OR SO MANY PEOPLE COMMIT. AND THEN ALSO WITH THAT, I KNOW THAT SHE SAID THAT THEY RAN OUT OF SIGNS. SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MORE SIGNS, WHICH WAS A GREAT THING. RIGHT.

BUT HOW IS THAT HOW HOW DOES HOW IS THAT BUDGETED? AND, AND FROM, FROM A STANDPOINT OF THE HOA'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE POLICE IS EATING THE COST FOR? AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS AROUND THE YOUTH. I LOVE THE COLORING BOOK. RIGHT. WE I'M OFTEN HIT BY A BUSINESS, BUSINESS OWNERS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE HAD EXPERIENCED CRIME OR A VIGILANTE ACTIVITY ON THEIR PROPERTY. AND SOMETIMES WHEN THEY HAVE VIDEO, YOU KNOW, OR THEY MAY INSINUATE THAT IT'S SOMEONE YOUNGER OR IN A CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHIC, 18 TO 24 OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. I

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AS WE GO OUT AND DO THESE, THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IT MADE ME THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL HAVE SOME WE HAVE SOME AMAZING COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS. AND AS THE SCHOOLS DIED DOWN AND LOOK WHERE, YOU KNOW, BUSY WORK AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT COULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. AND I KNOW Y'ALL ALREADY GO INTO THE SCHOOLS, BUT WITH THE COLORING BOOK AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF, JAZZ AND THEN YOUR WARM SMILE, I THINK THAT THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, WOULD EAT IT, EAT IT UP. JUST LEARNING ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAM AND HOW THEY CAN BE SAFE IN THEIR HOME, I MEAN, AND KEEP THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD SAFE. GOOD POINT. THANK YOU. WE'LL WE'LL INCLUDE THAT. SPEAKING OF WARM SMILES, CHIEF, NO, I WAS THINKING. SO I WAS THINKING AS YOU WERE TALKING, COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM. AND THIS JUST POPPED INTO MY HEAD LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH IN A BOX, RIGHT? LIKE, TAKE ALL OF THE MATERIALS THAT THEY NEED TO START IT. SO, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU SOMETIMES LOSE PEOPLE IF THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE. IT JUST ADDS TO PEOPLE'S CONFUSION ON HOW TO GET IT STARTED. SO LIKE MAYBE ALL OF THE PAPERWORK AND THE YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PUT THE SIGNAGE IN THERE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO STILL COME BACK IN AND STYLE IT, BUT JUST KIND OF HAVING SOME OF THE, THE NECESSARY THINGS. IF THERE'S PAPERWORK THAT HAS TO BE FILED OR, YOU KNOW, PAMPHLETS THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE COPIES OF TO DISTRIBUTE CHECKLISTS THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE, LIKE ALL OF THOSE THINGS, MAYBE LIKE PUTTING THEM IN A PACKET AND HAVING THAT TO LEAVE WITH THEM WITH THE STEPS, YOU KNOW, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE DO IT IN THIS ORDER, RIGHT, TO ELIMINATE ANY CONFUSION. AND, YOU KNOW, HAND IT OFF TO THE PRESIDENT. RIGHT. AND THEY'RE BORED AND THEY THEY GO AHEAD AND JUST FOLLOW THE STEPS ON THAT CHECKLIST TO GET THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH SO THEY CAN GET IT STARTED WITHIN A WEEK OR A COUPLE OF DAYS, WHATEVER. JUST MAKE JUST SIMPLIFYING THE PROCESS FOR THEM THAT MUCH MORE TO GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION. SO THAT MAY BE HELPFUL. MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN CAN KIND OF PULL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER AND THEN GIVE IT TO THEM SO THAT WHEN SHE'S MAKING THOSE PRESENTATIONS, THEY'RE ABLE TO JUST TAKE IT LIKE SHE SAID RIGHT THEN AND THERE AND GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT THOSE STEPS. NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH IN A BOX I LIKE THAT. YEAH. THANK YOU. YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, GIVE ME CREDIT FOR THE FIRST FEW TIMES. THEN YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO TAKE THE CREDIT. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER RAFAEL. SURE THING. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR THIS UPDATE. SO YOU KNOW, MY STATEMENT PERIOD IS JUST PLACE THREE IS THE LARGEST AREA WITHOUT ALL THE HOA. SO LIKE, HOW DO WE CONNECT WITH THEM? AND WHAT I WANTED TO RECOMMEND WAS BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN IT IN A WHILE, YOU KNOW. AND I KNOW THINGS YOU KNOW, ARE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT SIZING RIGHT NOW. BUT AS IT RELATES TO NEXT DOOR, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD PLACE THREE HAS A LARGE MEMBERSHIP GROUP, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF PEOPLE WHO

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AND WE'LL WORK WITH MARKETING TO DO THOSE THINGS NEXT DOOR. THAT'S A GREAT PLATFORM TO USE.

SO WE'LL WE'LL DO THAT. AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE HOAS AND THAT WE TRY TO REACH OUT TO THOSE. BUT THIS IS A GOOD, GOOD AVENUE TO GET SOME OF THOSE.

OKAY. AND SO IS SMALL TOO SMALL OR IS THERE NO SMALL? SO HOW SMALL CAN A CRIME WATCH BE? SO WHAT NUMBER DO YOU LIKE TO HIT? SO THERE'S NO REAL NUMBER. IF WE HAVE SEVERAL SEVERAL NEIGHBORS THAT WANT TO GET INVOLVED. AND THAT'S GOOD. IF THERE'S 4 OR 5, THEN WE START THERE. AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING IS TO GET IT STARTED, AND THAT THEY HAVE A CERTAIN AREA OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY'LL WATCH OUT AND NEAR THEIR STREET OR THEIR BLOCK, AND THEN THAT WILL GROW BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE IT. THEY'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IT. IF THEY'RE ON NEXT DOOR, THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN THERE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND THAT'S GOING TO GROW THAT INTEREST. AND SO THAT'S THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING FOR. HOW DO WE GET IT STARTED. AND JUST A GROUP OF 4 OR 5 SIX PEOPLE ARE FINE. NOW THAT'S SIX SIX HOUSEHOLDS IN AN AREA THAT ARE WATCHING OUT FOR THEMSELVES AND WATCHING THEIR BLOCK. AND THAT SHOULD CATCH ON.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN RAPHAEL, I, I WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST AS WELL BECAUSE I KNOW SOME, SOME PEOPLE, IF THEY ARE NOT IN AN HOA NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S ACTUALLY A POSITIVE FOR THEM. THAT'S A PLUS. AND THEY DON'T WANT THE DUES. THEY DON'T WANT ALL THE OTHER THINGS. BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. I THINK THAT YOU CAN FORM LEGALLY THROUGH THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND IT'S NOT A MEMBER TECHNICALLY A MEMBERSHIP ORGANIZATION, BUT IT'S JUST A BETTER WAY TO ORGANIZE. I KNOW WE HAVE A RESIDENT HOA EXPERT ON THE DAIS, SO SHE MAY BE ABLE TO TELL US. AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT WHAT TONIGHT'S MEETING IS ABOUT.

HOWEVER, I KNOW IN OUR HOA WORKSHOPS AND I KNOW WE'VE RECENTLY EXPANDED THAT WORKSHOP TO ENCOMPASS MORE THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY SPECIFIC TO HOA, BUT THAT MAY BE A THOUGHT IF THEY IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, AMENABLE TO MAYBE EXPLORING FORMAL, FORMAL ORGANIZATION THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, LIKE YOU SAID, JUST KIND OF STARTING SMALL, BUT JUST A WAY TO ORGANIZE THEMSELVES AROUND THAT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH EFFORT, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. AND ACTUALLY, I WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION IN EMAIL FORM IS HOW CAN I START A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? BECAUSE WE IN PLACE THREE DOES HAVE SEVERAL. WELL, I'M SORRY, PLACE THREE HAS A FEW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, BUT EVEN THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SMALL. SO EVEN PROMOTION OF THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BUT LIKE IF I JUST WANT TO START TOMORROW, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF THAT INFORMATION. I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL ABOUT AN ENCORE IMPOSTER, YOU KNOW, GOING INTO SOMEONE'S HOME, THAT KIND OF THING. AND SO LIKE, FOR THAT RESIDENT, LIKE, HOW DOES SHE GET STARTED, YOU KNOW, WITH, YOU KNOW, IS IT JUST HER IS IT, YOU KNOW, SO JUST, JUST IT WOULD BE GOOD TO JUST HAVE THAT PACKAGING, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, MYSELF AND THEN I CAN SHARE IT OUT TO THE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS THAT I COME IN CONTACT WITH. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL DO WHAT YOU ALL DO. BUT YEAH, JUST REMEMBER THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE CONNECTIONS THAT YOU ALL THE OTHER PLACES DO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR THIS. AS I SAID, I DO WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN CHISHOLM WITH WHAT SHE WAS BRINGING UP, BECAUSE THAT IS KIND OF THE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE RECEIVED. A LOT OF THE HOA ARE WANTING TO START SOMETHING, BUT THEY HAVE WHAT YOU CALL THE BLOCK CAPTAIN SYSTEM, WHICH IS EXACTLY THE EXACT SAME THING, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF IT'S NOT CONNECTED TO THE POLICE. AND THAT CONNECTION WITH THE POLICE IS WHAT'S MISSING. SO THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED THE SPECIAL MEETINGS, BUT THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, HOW WOULD WE GET CONNECTED TO THE POLICE? AND SO I WANT TO ASK, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THE POLICE CAN HOLD ONE MEETING AND ALLOW ALL THE PEOPLE TO COME TO IT AND THEN SAY, HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED. AND IT'S AS OPPOSED TO HAVING SPECIFICS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR QUARTERLY MEETINGS OR THEY HAVE THEIR BIANNUAL MEETINGS AND THEY DON'T WANT TO USE THEIR BIANNUAL MEETING FOR THIS, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE TO TRY TO GET ALL THEIR COMMUNITY BACK TOGETHER.

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I'M A PERSON WHO LIKES TO LOOK AROUND AND MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE GOOD. AND I'M WORKING WITH MY OTHER NEIGHBORS. I HAVE ALL THEIR PHONE NUMBERS AND THAT SORT OF THING. YOU REALLY DON'T NEED AN HOA TO DO IT. SO MAYBE IS THAT SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THE CITY IS AMENABLE TO, TO HAVE THAT AND PULL PEOPLE TO IT, TO IT AS OPPOSED TO HAVING INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE EVERY HOA IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT EVERY COMMUNITY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TOO. SO MAYBE IF WE JUST HAD THE, THE, THE, THE LEGWORK AND THEN CONNECTION WITH HOW WE GET WITH THE POLICE AND THEN FROM THERE MOVE FORWARD. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO. WE CAN WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.

WE HAD THE TOWN HALL MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT, AND NOBODY REALLY ASKED A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM. WE CAN WE CAN TRY AND SCHEDULE THAT AND FIND OUT WHO THOSE BLOCK CAPTAINS ARE AND INVITE THEM TO THAT. AND I CAN PROBABLY USE YOUR HELP TO FIND OUT WHO SOME OF THOSE ARE. IF YOU KNOW THAT THROUGH SOME OF YOUR WORK AND THAT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. WE'LL BRING THEM IN THERE. THEY'VE GOT TO SHOW UP, HOPEFULLY. BUT THEY CAN ALWAYS PICK UP THE PHONE AND JUST CALL US AND SAY, HEY, HOW CAN WE GET CONNECTED? WE HAVE A GROUP ALREADY. HOW CAN WE GET CONNECTED TO THE POLICE? WE'LL GET THEM HOOKED UP WITH JESSICA RYAN AND THEN SHE CAN COME OUT AND MEET THEM. SO IT MIGHT BE EASIER FOR THEM TO DO THAT FOR US AS WELL AS US REACHING OUT TO THEM. SO THE PACKET THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, WHEN YOU GET THAT TOGETHER, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL ALREADY BE AVAILABLE FOR SOMEONE TO SAY, OKAY, LET ME KIND OF DIGEST WHAT I NEED TO DO AND THEN BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THE POLICE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? WE'LL GET THAT TOGETHER. AND ALSO LAST NIGHT, LAST THURSDAY, IS PLACED ON THE WEBSITE. AS WE SAID BEFORE, IF WE WANT TO DIRECT PEOPLE TO THAT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM THAT JESSICA OUTLINED IN HER PRESENTATION IS ALL ON THERE. SO THEY CAN LOOK AT THAT. BUT ABSOLUTELY, WE CAN DO THAT. THANK YOU, I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. I SEE NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTS FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO SPEAK.

SO CHIEF, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL PRESENTATIONS? ONE MORE OKAY. SERGEANT SUMMERS IS HERE OVER THE CARE TEAM. HE'S GOING TO MAKE THAT PRESENTATION. HEY. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. I AM THE COORDINATOR FOR THE CARE TEAM. THE ONE YOU HAVE. THE OTHER ONE, THE OTHER PRESENTATION. I GIVE ME THE OTHER ONE. TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. YEAH. SO IN JANUARY WE CAME UP WITH TWO MAJOR GOALS. WE WANTED TO EXPAND THE SCOPE OF OPERATIONS OF THE CARE TEAM. ONE, WE WANTED TO ADD GERIATRIC SERVICES INTO IT. WE WANTED TO INCREASE OUR VICTIM ADVOCACY TO MORE SPECIFICALLY FOCUS ON HUMAN TRAFFICKING INTERVENTION. AND WE WANTED TO EXPAND THE JUVENILE TRUANCY AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE JUVENILES. I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT GOAL ONE HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THE FIRST STEP IN THAT WAS WE BROUGHT OUR YOUTH ADVOCATE OVER WHO WAS ON GRANT, AND WE EXPANDED THE ROLE THAT SHE HAS. AND SHE'S NOW TAKING MORE INTERACTION IN THE SCHOOL AND AS A AS ALSO MANAGING THE TRUANCY PROGRAM, THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING. WE'VE DONE GREAT STEPS TO DO THAT. OUR VICTIM ADVOCATE HOOKED UP WITH A REGIONAL GROUP THAT PROVIDES TRAINING AND ALSO EDUCATION TO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE'VE EXPANDED INTO THE GERIATRIC SERVICES, WHICH WAS NOTHING MORE THAN MAKING THE ADMINISTRATIVE.

ORDER THAT WE'RE GOING TO SERVE THE GERIATRICS AS WELL. POINT OF ORDER. I'M SORRY. AS A MATTER OF THE ACTUAL AGENDA ITEMS, THIS ONE WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA. IT WAS NOT A PART OF THE BUSINESS PLANS, THE ONES THAT WERE OUT ONLINE. I DON'T I DON'T I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. I JUST DON'T KNOW. IT WAS OUT THERE. SO THE PUBLIC DOES NOT HAVE THIS INFORMATION.

OKAY. WHICH ONE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE PRESENTATION ITSELF, COUNCILWOMAN. THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION AS REGIONAL CARE PRESENTATION. WE DON'T HAVE THAT AS A COUNCIL. OR DO WE? MAYBE.

MAYBE I LOOKED AT THEM WRONG. OKAY. SO. WELL, BUT. THIS IS WHAT WAS PUBLISHED ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. SO ARE YOU SAYING WE DON'T HAVE THE SLIDE IN THERE OR WE DON'T HAVE THE

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THE OBJECTIVE IS TO PROMOTE PROACTIVE CRIME PREVENTION, COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND SERVICE EXCELLENCE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE KEY INITIATIVE IS TO DEVELOP A COMMUNITY CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, WHICH IS THE INITIATIVE. THE WORK PLAN. WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE BEST SOUTHWEST CITIES TO CONDUCT NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN GOING ON AND STARTED. WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP A FRAMEWORK FOR THE COMMUNITY CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, WHICH THAT DRAFT IS COMPLETED AND HAS BEEN PRESENTED. I WOULD MENTION TO SAY THAT WE'RE OPEN TO THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT AND CREATION. THE FACT IS THAT WE NEED A CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM. HOW IT'S FORMED IS STILL CAN BE OPEN. WE HAVE OBTAINED CITY COUNCIL FEEDBACK ON THE RESULTS OF THE NEED ASSESSMENT AND THE COMMUNITY CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, AND WE ARE READY BASICALLY TO PILOT THE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM AND PRESENT THE WE'RE NOT READY TO PRESENT THE RESULTS TO CITY COUNCIL. TOTAL STARTUP FOR THOSE COSTS. WE'RE LOOKING AT 548,000 TO 591,000. THAT MUST BE FOR NON-LABOR COSTS, NON-LABOR COSTS OR OR MORE THAN THAT. WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU ABOUT THAT IS MOST OF THE STAFF IN THERE IS ALREADY EXISTING. WE ONLY NEED 1 TO 2 MORE BODIES TO STAFF IT. PROGRAM EXPANSION IN THREE YEARS TO INCLUDE THE DEMENTIA ELDER SOCIAL SERVICES RESPONSE TEAM. AGAIN, WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. WE HAVE THOSE TITLES THAT YOU SEE ON THE BOTTOM ON STAFF RIGHT NOW, MINUS THE PARAMEDIC. AND SO BASICALLY IT WAS NO MORE THAN ME DIRECTING THEM THAT YOU WILL SERVE OUR GERIATRIC POPULATION. I GUESS THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS OVER. THANK YOU. SERGEANT SUMMERS COUNCIL, ARE THERE QUESTIONS? YES, COUNCILMAN BURKE, SIR, I JUST WANT YOU TO THANK. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SERVING THE GERIATRIC COMMUNITY ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND 2 OR 3 OTHERS ON THIS DAIS, WE WANT TO THANK YOU, SIR. NO QUESTIONS. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR FLEXIBILITY IN CHANGING THE ACTUAL REPORT SO THAT WE COULD HAVE IT IN FRONT OF US AND SO THAT OUR RESIDENTS COULD SEE. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. DEFINITELY. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER RAFAEL. OH, YES. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION.

SO JUST LOOKING AT THE WORK PLAN AND LOOKING AT ITEM NUMBER TWO. SO DEVELOP THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE COMMUNITY CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM. AND SO JUST FOR MY CLARITY. SO THIS IS THE RESPONSE TO THE REQUEST OF HAVING A PROACTIVE CARES TEAM IS I JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. SO RIGHT NOW THE MODEL OF THE CARE TEAM IS WE PROVIDE BEFORE AND AFTER CARE, WHICH I'VE COME TO LEARN IS VERY IMPORTANT, MEANING THAT SOMEBODY HAS ALREADY BEEN IN A CRISIS AND WE WANT TO PREVENT THEM FROM EVER COMING INTO A CRISIS AGAIN, SO WE CAN LESSEN THE BURDEN ON 911 SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE CITY SERVICES AND JUST MAINTAIN THE OVERALL BETTER WELL-BEING FOR THAT PERSON. BUT WHEN THE PERSON IS ACTUALLY IN THAT MOMENT OF CRISIS, THE CARE TEAM IS NOT RESPONDING. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

TRADITIONAL. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A MOBILE CRISIS OR COMMUNITY CRISIS, A DALLAS RIGHT CARE, THOSE TEAMS ARE GOING OUT WHILE THAT PERSON IS IN THEIR MOMENT OF CRISIS. THAT'S NORMALLY A RESULT OF A 911 CALL. THAT'S NORMALLY WHAT IT IS THE RESULT OF. AND SO INSTEAD OF JUST SENDING ARMED LAW ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE, WE'RE GOING TO SEND A TEAM THAT'S BETTER ABLE AND BETTER PREPARED TO TRAIN. FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE A LICENSED MASTER SOCIAL WORKER ON MY TEAM.

I HAVE A YOUNG LADY WITH A MASTER'S DEGREE IN COUNSELING. THEN WE HAVE A NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH REPRESENTATIVE. SO WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IS WE'RE BETTER ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THAT SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL AS OPPOSED TO, AS WE SAY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, TREATING EVERYTHING WITH THE HAMMER. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TOOL FOR THE TOOL. BACK WHEN I SAY THAT WE'RE FLEXIBLE TO THE FRAMEWORK OF HOW IT'S CREATED, THERE'S BEEN GREAT TALK

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THAT'S JUST OUTSIDE OF MY REALM. IN THE POLICE REALM, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN FIRE RESCUE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. SO WHEN I SAY THAT I'M OPEN TO IT, WE NEED A MOBILE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, COMMUNITY CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, HOW IT'S FORMED AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS. I'M OPEN TO ANYTHING. I HAVE A PLAN, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, I NEED Y'ALL'S APPROVAL FOR HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARITY. AND I THINK MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR WAS LIKE, WHAT IS THE PLAN? WHAT DOES THAT PART LOOK LIKE? BUT JUST TO CONTRIBUTE INPUT TO THAT PLAN IN, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING TO, YOU KNOW, QUITE A FEW PEOPLE RELATED TO RECENT EVENTS. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THEIR LICENSE PERSON AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROGRAM, MEANING LIKE NOT. SO WE CELEBRATE OUR TELECOMMUNICATORS.

SO HAVING THAT PROFESSIONAL THAT'S THERE WITH THE TELECOMMUNICATORS OR AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, HAVING OUR TELECOMMUNICATORS TRAINED IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, YOU KNOW, SO STARTING AT THAT POINT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE MODEL THAT THAT HAS HAS THAT 911 COMPONENT AS WELL AS AS IT RELATES TO LIKE WHO'S ACTUALLY DOING THE DEESCALATING. SO IF IT'S COMING INTO TO THIS, SO IF IT'S AN OFFICER TRADITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, IN IN POLICE CHIEF CAN CORRECT ME OR, OR GIVE US THE STATS AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN A FEMALE VERSUS A MALE DO THE DE-ESCALATION PIECE SO THAT WE THINK THROUGH THIS PROCESS, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT. AND THEN AS IT RELATES TO YOU MENTIONED THE GERIATRIC PIECE AND YOU MENTIONED THE BEFORE CARE AND AFTER CARE. AND SO THAT SOUNDS REALLY INTENSIVE. AND SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE USING, IF WE ARE CHARGING PARTICIPANTS IN THIS, I'LL SAY IT THAT WAY. THOSE CLIENTS INSURANCE, IS THAT A COMPONENT. BECAUSE I KNOW, YOU KNOW, AS IT RELATES TO FUNDING, YOU KNOW, AND HOW THIS STARTED OUT AS A GRANT AND NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAKING IT TAKING THIS ON INTO TO OUR GENERAL BUDGET, YOU KNOW, JUST WANT US TO UNDERSTAND LIKE THE EVEN THE FEE SCALE WHEN IT COMES TO THE POST CARE AFTER CARE AND WHAT THAT PIECE LOOKED LIKE. YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE IF WE'RE IF WE'RE GOING IN DOING THOSE COUNSELING SERVICES FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, NOT THE RIGHT CARE, NOT THE RESPONSE TIME, I'M NOT I'M NOT AT THE FRONT END. BUT ON THAT BACK END PIECE, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT SEEMS TO BE ONGOING. BUT YEAH, I'LL STOP RIGHT THERE. YEAH, I'M GONNA TRY TO REMEMBER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS.

I THINK I CAN I SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE I ACTUALLY DID PRESENT THIS LAST SUMMER TO THE COUNCIL.

AND WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, I KNOW THAT I MENTIONED THAT THE 911 PIECE WAS AN ELEMENT IN IT.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, 911, WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IS THAT THERE ARE A SET OF QUESTIONS FOR 911 TO DECIPHER WHETHER THIS IS A CALL FOR THE COMMUNITY CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, OR IF IT'S A CALL FOR THE ACTUAL PD. AND THAT'S BASED ON A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT THEY ASKED TO UNDERSTAND IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A SITUATION THAT COULD POSSIBLY GO BECOME A MORE ESCALATED SITUATION, OR IT'S SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE CAN GO OUT BECAUSE IN OUR CONVERSATION AND I'M SERGEANT SUMMERS HAS BEEN I KNOW I'VE PROBABLY BEEN A PAIN IN YOUR THORN IN YOUR SIDE, BUT HAS STOPPED TO HAVE ONGOING MEETINGS THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS JUST ON THIS PROCESS. AND ONE THING THAT WE DID DISCUSS ALSO WITH THIS IS JUST THE FACT THAT WITH THE RIGHT PROGRAM IN DALLAS, THE POLICE ARE NOT LEADING THAT CALL. SO WHEN IT'S A MENTAL HEALTH CALL, THE THOSE WHO ARE THE PROFESSIONALS IN THE BACK ARE LEADING THE POLICE ARE THERE IN CASE THEY NEED AN WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, THE WHAT? THE MENTAL HEALTH WARRANT. I FORGOT WHAT IT'S CALLED. MENTAL HEALTH.

YEAH. YES. EMERGENCY DETENTION. EXACTLY. IF THEY NEED THAT AVAILABLE TO THEM OR IT DOES GO LEFT. BUT THE INITIAL FRAMEWORK OF THIS IS TO HAVE THOSE PROFESSIONALS THAT KNOW HOW TO DE-ESCALATE. NOT TO SAY THAT THE OFFICERS, NOT BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT REGULAR OFFICERS, THESE ARE PEACE OFFICERS WHO ACTUALLY HAVE INTENSIVE MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING AS WELL INCLUDED. I'M NOT TRYING TO STEAL YOUR SHINE. I'M JUST SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT IF THAT I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION AS IT RELATES TO HOW THAT FRAMEWORK WILL LOOK EARLY ON. ON THE FRONT END OF THAT, I THINK MY I THINK I THINK MY YES, THANK THANK YOU FOR THAT INPUT. I APPRECIATE THAT AND I AND I DON'T KNOW IF I HEARD IT, YOU SAID A LOT OF WORDS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I HEARD IT. BUT I THINK MORE FROM A PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT, NOT JUST THE QUESTIONS, BUT SOMEONE ON THE 911 SIDE, YOU KNOW, WHO IS THAT CLINICIAN? YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE I WAS

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OKAY. IF I CAN INTERVENE HERE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST TELLING YOU AN UPDATE OF WHAT WE'RE PLANNING. SO SERGEANT HAS DEVELOPED A PLAN. WE DO HAVE A PLAN. THIS IS NOT THE FORUM TO DISCUSS THAT WE'RE GOING TO MEET TOMORROW. WE'VE ALREADY HAD THIS SCHEDULED TO DISCUSS THAT PLAN AND THEN COME FORWARD WITH THE CITY MANAGER. AND THEN WE'LL PRESENT SOMETHING TO YOU. SO TO GET INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS IS REALLY JUMPING WAY AHEAD OF US. SO I THINK IF WE JUST LEAVE IT, SAY WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF DEVELOPING THAT PLAN, AS OUR SCHEDULE SAYS, AND WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THAT PLAN AS SOON AS WE FINISH IT UP AND GET THE CITY MANAGER'S APPROVAL. OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND MY INPUT WAS JUST ONLY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I WOULD SUPPORT HAVING A CLINICIAN. I'LL GET MY TERMINOLOGY CORRECT. HAVING A CLINICIAN AT THAT INITIAL STANDPOINT. AND SO AND I THINK IT'S WORTH IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER PARKER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER ABOUT THE ACTUAL PHRASEOLOGY HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT WAS BROUGHT TO US DURING THE SUMMER RETREAT. BUT IT SAYS HERE TO DEVELOP A FRAMEWORK. YOU MEAN TO ENHANCE THE EXISTING FRAMEWORK. IS THAT WHAT THIS REALLY IS SAYING? YES. SO WE HAVE A CARE TEAM NOW AND IT DOES DOES WHAT HE SAID IT DOES. WE'RE LOOKING TO ENHANCE THAT AND BRING A CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, AN EMERGENT TEAM OR 911 TEAM, WHATEVER THE COUNCIL WANTS TO CALL IT, SO THAT WE CAN BE AHEAD OF THE GAME AND ANSWER THOSE CALLS. AND THAT'S THE PROACTIVE PIECE. THAT'S WHAT, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT. OKAY. BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING, YOU SAID THAT CURRENTLY THE CARE TEAM IS POST AND PRE, BUT WE WERE ALWAYS TOLD THEY WERE POST. THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WAS ASKING THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE IT SEEMED ODD THAT IT WAS BROUGHT UP DURING SUMMER RETREAT. AND THEN NOW WE'RE SAYING WE WERE ALWAYS BOTH POST AND PRE. SO THE PRE PART OF THAT IS NOT ALL REFERRALS COME IN THROUGH 911 OR THROUGH EMERGENCY DETENTION. A FAMILY MEMBER OR COMMUNITY MEMBER, THEY CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR SOMEBODY TO GET SERVICES. AND IF THEY'RE AGREEABLE TO THOSE SERVICES THEN WE'LL INTERVENE AND WE'LL TRY TO KEEP THEM ON A ON THEIR OWN CARE PLAN SO THAT THEY NEVER HAVE TO INTERACT WITH, YOU KNOW, THE EMERGENCY SERVICES. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS CONFUSED. I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ON ALL THE TERMINOLOGY BECAUSE IN MY IN WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT PRE MEANS, YOU KNOW, WHILE THE, THE ACTUAL CRISIS IS HAPPENING. THAT'S THE PRE KNOW. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WAS ASKING THAT QUESTION. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THEN THE PART WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE BEST SOFTWARE CITIES.

NOW YOU PUT A NUMBER IN ABOUT THE BUDGET PIECE. IS THAT ALREADY IN THE BUDGET. IT'S NOT.

SO IF I LOOK AT FY 2025 THEY HAVE 516,000 IN THE CARE TEAM BUDGET. THAT'S JUST WHAT'S PUBLISHED ON THE WEBSITE. THAT'S WHAT'S PUBLISHED ON OUR BUDGET. HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS ACCOUNTED FOR BECAUSE CURRENTLY THE CARE TEAM, MINUS SALARIES ARE ON A GRANT, CORRECT? CORRECT. SO THIS PART THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT PAGE THAT TALKED ABOUT THE MONIES PIECE, THAT MONIES PIECE WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING, THAT IS ON GRANTS THAT HAS NOT BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR YET IN THE NEW BUDGET. I'M JUST I DON'T KNOW THAT. SO AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S SOME OF IT. WE'RE DEVELOPING ALL THAT OKAY. WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE HARD FIGURES. BUT THAT'S ABOUT WHAT WE FIGURE IT'S GOING TO COST. WE'LL COME BACK WITH YOU WITH SOME HARD FIGURES AND A PLAN AT THE NEXT MEETING. OR THE MEETING. THAT CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU AGAIN. THIS IS Q2. THIS IS Q2 OF FISCAL YEAR 26. SO WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THIS BUDGET SEASON. AND I THINK WHEN WE PRESENTED, WE KNEW THAT THIS WOULD BE A TIER PROGRAM THAT WOULD NOT INCLUDE THIS CURRENT BUDGET EITHER. SO THIS BUDGET IS NOT FACTORED IN IT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE

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BUT THERE'S IT'S NOT THE FINAL NUMBERS BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S, THERE'S THREE STEPS OF IT. AND ALL OF THEM ARE KIND OF IN INTERCONNECTED. SO THAT'S WHY WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE THAT YET UNTIL WE VET ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE CLARIFICATION ON EXACTLY WHAT GAP THE CRISIS. WHAT WHAT IS THE NAME WE'RE CALLING IT NOW, THE CRISIS RESPONSE COMMITTEE. WELL, I KNOW IT'S THE REGIONAL CARE TEAM, BUT THE CRISIS RESPONSE COMMUNITY CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM IS LOOKING TO FILL, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME A LOT OF TERMINOLOGY THROWN BACK ON PRE AND POST. RIGHT. WE CURRENTLY PROVIDE PRE MEANING BEFORE THE CRISIS. CORRECT. AND THEN POST MEANS AFTER THE CRISIS. SO THE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM IS LOOKING TO FILL THE GAP OF WHILE THEY ARE CURRENTLY IN CRISIS. CORRECT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD PRE AND POST SO THAT AND FOR THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT GAP THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE IS LOOKING TO FILL. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN CHISHOLM, FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN IN HELPING US RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR IT, BUT TO ALSO ADMONISH THE WORK THAT'S ALREADY HAVING BEEN DONE, MEANING THAT THERE WERE SERVICES BEING PROVIDED BEFORE AND AFTER, JUST NOT WHILE THEY WERE IN CRISIS. IT'S THE GAP THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FILL, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER RAFAEL. SURE THING. SO THAT I'M CLEAR. AND THANK YOU FOR GOING DOWN THAT CLARITY LINE, MAYOR PROCTOR. BUT AS IT RELATES TO THIS, SO WE'RE FILLING THE GAP. SO THIS WILL BE IN ADDITION TO AND WE STILL WILL HAVE IS IT THE COMMUNITY CRISIS TEAM, CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM AND THE CARE TEAM. YES OKAY. I THINK INITIALLY WHEN WE STARTED OUT WITH THE CARE TEAM, I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO HAVE A CRISIS KIND OF COMPONENT, A PRE COMPONENT WORKING TO THAT NOW. NO, I KNOW WE'RE WORKING TO IT NOW. AND SO WITH THAT THE, THE, THE JUST FROM MY UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL 500,000 THAT WILL COME. YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE PROJECTING RIGHT NOW. BUT THAT ALREADY DOES INCLUDE SOME OF THE PEOPLE WE CURRENTLY HAVE. WE'RE JUST ADDING A FEW ADDITIONAL PEOPLE. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN WE'RE ADDING, I GUESS, ADDITIONAL HOURS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'RE GOING TO ADD OTHER PEOPLE AND HOURS THAT THAT WE RESPOND TO. YES. OKAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, THAT UNDERSTANDING. AND THEN AS IT RELATES TO THIS, AS YOU FORMULATE THIS, ARE YOU WORKING WITH A TEAM OF PROFESSIONALS, YOU KNOW, IN THE MENTAL HEALTH FIELD AND IN OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE DONE SOME OF THIS WORK AS WELL? YES, HE'S DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS, AND WE'RE WORKING TO GET THAT PLAN TOGETHER FOR YOU. SO WE CAN WE CAN DISCUSS ALL THAT WHEN WE PRESENT THAT PLAN. OKAY. OKAY. WELL, I KNOW LIKE WE HAVE THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I KNOW WE HAVE A COMMITTEE OF CITIZENS, BUT THIS IS JUST MY FOURTH SENSE. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A COMMITTEE OF, OF THOSE PROFESSIONALS THAT MIGHT BE IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY WHO CAN LEND VOICE TO SOME OF THIS AS WELL.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. I JUST I JUST WANT TO ALSO ADD REMINDER TO COUNCIL. THERE IS A THIRD COMPONENT WHICH IS HOMELESS SOLUTIONS AS WELL. SO THAT'S PART OF THE WHOLE PROGRAM. SO IT WOULD BE THE COMMUNITY CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM, THE KIND OF THE BACK END OF IT AS WELL AS HOMELESS SUPPORT. THANK YOU. I SEE NO ADDITIONAL

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[a. Discussion of the current process for honoring the City's fallen First Responders]

SO I TOLD HIM I WOULD JUMP IN HERE IF FIRE AND POLICE ARE SO SIMILAR IN THIS THAT IF THERE'S A DIRECT QUESTION FOR HIM, WE'LL BRING HIM UP. BUT THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO TWO MAJOR PRIORITIES WHEN WE HONOR OUR FALLEN IN THE FIRE AND THE POLICE WORLD. AND THAT IS TO SHOW HONOR TO THE FALLEN FIREFIGHTER OR POLICE OFFICER AND TO CARE FOR THOSE LEFT BEHIND. THAT INCLUDES THEIR FAMILY. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THEIR WORK FAMILY. BUT ULTIMATELY, EVERYTHING WE DO FOR FALLEN FIREFIGHTER OR FALLEN POLICE OFFICER IS APPROVED AND DECIDED BY THE FAMILY. SO WE HAVE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE GIVE THEM AND WE HAVE CRITERIA THAT WE FOLLOW. BUT ULTIMATELY, IF THEY SAY NO, WE WANT THIS, THAT'S WHAT WE HONOR AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO. BUT BOTH FIRE AND POLICE, WE HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS. WE HAVE THREE LEVELS LEVEL ONE, LEVEL TWO, LEVEL THREE, LEVEL ONE IN THE FIRE SERVICE AND THE POLICE SERVICE IS AN ACTUAL LINE OF DUTY DEATH. SO IF ONE OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS OR FIREFIGHTERS DOWN THE LINE OF DUTY, THESE ARE THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE GIVE. NOW, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE MADE UP AT THE DINNER TABLE. THIS IS A STANDARD ACROSS THE FIRE SERVICE AND THE POLICE SERVICE THAT ALL FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND ALL POLICE DEPARTMENTS DO FOR THEIR FALLEN. AND YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE REALLY SIMILAR BETWEEN FIRE AND POLICE. THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENCES. THEY HAVE A FEW TRADITIONS THAT THEY DO, AND WE HAVE A FEW TRADITIONS THAT WE DO IN THE FIRE SERVICE. AND THEN WE MOVE ON TO A LEVEL TWO. A LEVEL TWO IS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF OUR DEPARTMENT THAT DIES OFF DUTY, NOT IN THE LINE OF DUTY. AND THEY HAVE A FEW LESS THINGS THAT WE SUGGEST. AGAIN, ULTIMATELY IT'S UP TO THE FAMILY AND WHAT THEY DECIDE. AND THEN WE HAVE LEVEL THREE, WHICH IS THE MOST COMMON IN WHAT WE TYPICALLY DEAL WITH. AND THAT IS A RETIRED FIREFIGHTER OFFICER THAT PASSES AWAY. AND WE SUGGEST A FEW LESS THINGS. BUT TYPICALLY A LOT OF THE FAMILY WANTS SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THROWN IN.

AND SO WE'LL THROW THAT IN. AS AN EXAMPLE, THE LAST RETIRED DESOTO FIREFIGHTER THAT WE DID, WE DON'T TYPICALLY PUT THEM IN A FIRE ENGINE, BUT THE FAMILY WANTED THAT PERSON TRANSPORTED IN A FIRE ENGINE. SO WE TOOK ONE OF OUR FIRE ENGINES AND WE AND WE HONORED THAT AND TRANSPORTED THEM. AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU CAN SEE THE LEVEL THREE RETIRED AS WELL FOR THE POLICE, JUST LIKE FIRE. AND I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE IN REGARDS TO WHAT WE DO. DOCTOR MARX. THANK YOU. ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM, DO THEY HAVE TO REQUEST IT OR DO THEY KNOW THAT IT'S AVAILABLE? LIKE YOU SAID, THE FIRE ENGINE WOULD, WOULD AN ORDINARY FAMILY KNOW TO REQUEST THAT OR DO YOU OFFER IT AND GIVE THEM THE OPTION TO ACCEPT? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UPON THE DEATH OF ANY AT ANY LEVEL, ANY OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS, RETIRED OR ACTIVE OR OFF DUTY, WE ASSIGN A LIAISON, WHETHER A FIRE OR POLICE, AND THEY GO TO THE FAMILY. AND THEN WE HAVE A HUGE CHECKLIST THAT THEY GO THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW ALL THE THINGS AVAILABLE. AND THEN WE ALSO WORK WITH THE FUNERAL HOME, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES IN THESE FUNERALS, YOU'LL HAVE A TYPICAL FUNERAL SERVICE THAT THE FAMILY WANTS, AND THEN WE'LL ROLL INTO THE FIRE HONORS OR THE POLICE HONORS THAT WE DO. BUT YES, ALL FAMILIES GET AN ASSIGNED LIAISON TO WORK WITH THEM SO THEY KNOW WHAT OPTIONS THEY HAVE AND WHAT THEY CAN DO TO HONOR THEIR

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THANK YOU CHIEF. THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR THE INFORMATION THAT YOU GUYS PROVIDED. THE REASON THAT I BROUGHT THIS FOR WAS REALLY THIS ACTUALLY CAME ABOUT WHEN WE HAD THE DALLAS OFFICER WHO WAS KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. AND THEN THERE WERE OTHER OFFICERS THAT WERE KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. AND SO PART OF HONORING PEOPLE SOMETIMES MEANS WE LEAVE BEHIND WAYS OF KIND OF, YOU KNOW, VISUALLY SEEING IT. I KNOW THE LIBRARY HAS A WAY TO HONOR VETERANS BY A WALL. I DON'T KNOW THAT I SAW A WALL OR ANYTHING IN IN THE LIST. THERE MAY BE ONE, BUT I DON'T. I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE LIST. AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM THAT DALLAS DID WAS THE TOPPERS FOR THE STREETS. INSTEAD OF RENAMING THE STREETS, YOU ACTUALLY JUST PUT A TOPPER ON TOP OF THE STREET. AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANY OF THOSE ITEMS ARE EVER REQUESTED. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY EVEN WANTS TO ENTERTAIN, TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT MEMORIAM, IF YOU WILL, FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. TO OUR OFFICERS WHO I KNOW WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY, THANK GOD, HAVEN'T HAD ANY RECENTLY, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TOMORROW HOLDS. AND AS A PERSON WHO I LOST MY MOM WHEN I FIRST TOOK THIS SEAT, THERE'S THINGS THAT I'VE DONE TO TRY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT I REMEMBER HER. AND SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS WITH FALLEN OFFICERS. SO IN MY MIND, IT WAS ALWAYS SAYING, HOW DO WE ACTUALLY HONOR FROM A VISIBLE PERSPECTIVE FOR OUR OFFICERS? SO FROM A NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, AT LEAST IN THE FIRE SERVICE, AND JOE CAN SPEAK ON THE POLICE SERVICE, WE HAVE A NATIONAL FALLEN MONUMENT THAT THEY DO FOR FIREFIGHTERS THAT DIE IN THE LINE OF DUTY, NOT AFTER THE LINE, NOT AFTER THEY'VE RETIRED. SO IT'S A IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING HERE IN THE CITY. WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, ANY TYPE OF MEMORIAL THAT WE PUT UP ON THE FAR SIDE OF THINGS. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE AN AWESOME TRIBUTE TO THOSE THAT HAVE SERVED OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, GONE ON, RETIRED AND THEN PASSED AWAY. OKAY, SO NATIONALLY WE HAVE THE NATIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMORIAL. MUSEUM. AND WALL THAT THEY HAVE FOR OFFICERS THAT WERE KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY. THAT'S IN WASHINGTON, DC HERE IN DESOTO, EVERY EVERY YEAR WE HAVE A MEMORIAL SERVICE THE WEEK OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT. MEMORIAL WEEK. THAT'S IN MAY. MAY 15TH IS LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMORIAL DAY, WHEN WE HAVE THAT SERVICE IN AUSTIN EVERY TWO YEARS, WHICH IS THIS YEAR. WE ALSO SEND A CONTINGENCY OF OFFICERS DOWN TO REPRESENT OUR CITY, TO BE IN WITH ALL THE MEMORIAL SERVICES THAT THEY DO ON THE 15TH, ON THE WEDNESDAY OF THAT WEEK, WHICH IS THIS THIS YEAR IS THE 14TH. WE DO A MEMORIAL SERVICE WHERE WHERE I MAKE SOME PRESENTATIONS, WE READ OFF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT DIED IN THE LINE OF DUTY FROM TEXAS. AND WE ALSO DO A SMALL LITTLE SERVICE. AND THEY BUGLE, BAGPIPE AND 21 GUN SALUTE. SO WE DO DO SOMETHING EVERY YEAR. WE'VE DONE THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AND BEFORE I WAS HERE. THANK GOD WE HAVE NOT HAD AN OFFICER DIED IN THE LINE OF DUTY IN THE CITY OF DESOTO. SO WE HAVEN'T HAD TO DO THOSE THINGS THAT YOU SAY. NOW, WHEN A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER DIES IN THE STATE, WE HAVE BLACK SHROUDS THAT WE PUT OVER OUR BADGE. SO IF YOU EVER SEE US WITH THOSE SHROUDS, THAT MEANS THAT A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER DIED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND ALL TOO OFTEN WE HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT WE DO MEMORIALIZE THEM, WHETHER THEY'RE IN THE CITY OR NOT. AND THEN WE DO OUR ANNUAL SERVICE TO HONOR THOSE THAT HAVE FALLEN THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. BUT TYPICALLY, BUT SPECIFICALLY IN TEXAS. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND SO THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON THAT I ACTUALLY. MYSELF AND DOCTOR MORSE WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD, IS JUST TO REALLY SEE IF THERE WAS ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN PLACE. THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT IT UP, I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER. MY ONLY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IN TERMS OF THE TOPPERS, WE ALREADY HAVE A POLICY FOR THAT. SO WE HAVE A POLICY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RENAMING BUILDINGS AND STREETS AND ALL THOSE THINGS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE NOTED FOR SURE, I CAN RECALL AND I AGAIN, I NEED TO PROBABLY GO BACK AND REREAD IT TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHERE IT IS IN THE POLICY. BUT WE TALKED ABOUT VERSUS ACTUALLY RENAMING STREETS FOR THE PURPOSES OF LIKE GPS AND ALL THOSE THINGS, JUST TO ADD HONOR, DO IT MORE CEREMONIALLY, OR JUST HAVING AN HONORARY TOPPER FOR THE STREET NAMES. MAYBE THERE'S AN ADDENDUM TO THAT POLICY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. SO IN THE INSTANCES OF FALLEN OFFICER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR SOMEONE WHO WAS IN, IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO, WHO PASSED AWAY, MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S A SEGMENT IN THAT POLICY THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT WE DO IN THOSE INSTANCES FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS OR FOR OUR OFFICERS IN TERMS OF HONORARY STREET TOPPERS, SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE THAT POLICY IN PLACE, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. AND THEN, OF COURSE, MAKING CERTAIN THAT THE

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EDUCATE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE. YOU SAID IT WILL BE CAPITAL FUNDS. THAT WOULD BE CORRECT FOR THE FIRE STATION. SO YOU'RE SAYING ADDING IT INTO THE ADDING IT INTO THE FIRE STATION FOUR.

THAT'S CORRECT. SUBSTATION. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING FURTHER OUT THAN THAN MORE THAN RATHER THAN SOMETHING IMMEDIATE. THAT'S CORRECT OKAY. SO COUNCILWOMAN CHISHOLM, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OR DO MORE CLARIFICATION? WELL, YEAH, I JUST BECAUSE WHETHER IT'S A WALL OR IT'S A TOPPER OR THERE THERE'S A FEE, WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE CERTAINLY WHEN WE DID THE STREET WHOLE PROCESS. YEAH. AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHO IS PAYING THE BILL FOR. IS IT THE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WANTS IT OR IS IT THE LIKE. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHO, WHERE WHERE DOES THE COST WHERE DOES IT. WELL, I ONLY SAY BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER ONE IS ITEM. SO I'D LIKE TO. YEAH, I GUESS, AND I GUESS WE COULD ASK THAT TO THE ONES WHO BROUGHT THIS ITEM FORWARD.

WHERE, WHERE WERE YOU ALL SUGGESTING THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD COME FROM IN THE BUDGET? TRUTHFULLY, I WASN'T SUGGESTING IT BE A LINE IN THE BUDGET I WAS REALLY LOOKING FOR. WHAT DOES THE CITY HAVE ALREADY IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO DO THESE SORTS OF THINGS? BECAUSE JUST LIKE YOU DO SOME OF THE OTHER MEMORIAL THINGS, THERE'S A LINE ITEM FOR THAT. SO I REALLY HADN'T LOOKED THAT FAR. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE THE INFORMATION AS TO HOW THIS WOULD GET IN THERE FROM A STREET TYPE OF PERSPECTIVE, IF THERE IS AN ACTUAL POLICY ALREADY IN PLACE, JUST

[02:15:04]

AND I THINK THIS COUNCIL HAS ALL BEEN VERY DILIGENT IN MAKING SURE ITEMS IN THE, YOU KNOW, ITEMS AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY, WE HEAR THAT A LOT, RIGHT? SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ADDING THESE THINGS TO, TO OUR, TO, YOU KNOW, TO OUR COMMUNITY, THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT DOES HAVE A COST, WHETHER IT'S LARGE OR SMALL OR MIDSIZE, THERE WILL BE A COST. AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS FAR AS WHERE THAT COST WILL BE HOUSED AND WHO WILL BE PAYING FOR THOSE TYPES OF ITEMS. AND AGAIN, IF IT'S JUST ENHANCING THE POLICY, THEN LET'S LET IT BE THAT. BUT I DO THINK THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE LOST ON US, THAT THERE WILL BE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, DOING YOUR RESEARCH, PERHAPS YOU CAN DO BRING US BACK SOME TYPE OF COST OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE PER TOPPER. IS IT PER LETTER? IS IT PER PANEL? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE. AND MAYBE WE CAN MAKE A DECISION FROM THAT STANDPOINT, BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TYPE OF DOLLARS WE'RE EVEN TALKING ABOUT. SO THANK YOU. WE CAN DO THAT. WE PAID FOR OUR GRANITE MONUMENT OUT OF OUR FEDERAL FORFEITURE ACCOUNT WHEN WE DID IT. SO THERE WAS NO COST TO THE CITY'S BUDGET. THAT WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO. AND THAT THAT COST US $75,000. WE PAID FOR THAT OUT OF OUR THAT AGAIN, THAT'S OUR MONUMENT, LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMORIAL MONUMENT THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE PD WHERE WE DO OUR MEMORIAL SERVICE. RIGHT BEHIND US. THERE'S A THERE'S A BIG MONUMENT AT GRANITE AND THAT'S THAT'S A LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMORIAL HONOR FOR FALLEN OFFICERS. AND WE DID THAT OUT OF OUR FEDERAL FORFEITURE ACCOUNT SEVERAL YEARS AGO. WE PAID FOR THAT. OKAY. SO AGAIN, IF WE COULD JUST DO LOOK AT THE TOPPER AND SEE WHAT THAT WOULD COST AND BRING IT BACK, I'VE HEARD AGAIN, DIFFERENT ITEMS REQUESTED WALLS, MEMORIALS, TOPPERS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO I THINK GIVING IT KIND OF BACK TO OUR CITY MANAGER TO KIND OF LOOK AT SOME OPTIONS FOR US. I KNOW THAT YOU WERE YOU HAD SOME IDEAS, I THINK, FROM DALLAS AND SOME OTHER AREAS AS WELL AS THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER SUGGESTIONS, BUT DEFINITELY NEED TO KIND OF ADD PERSPECTIVE TO THIS ITEM. WHILE IT IS HONORABLE, AGAIN, WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO NEGATE THE FACT THAT THERE THERE WOULD BE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH US. AND WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT COST IN IN THE INSTANCE OF FAMILY WANTS A STREET TOPPER. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? WHO MAINTAINS IT? RIGHT. THOSE TYPES OF THINGS NEED TO BE ANSWERED SO THAT THOSE MEMORIALS AND THOSE GESTURES OF HONOR DON'T GO NEGLECTED OVER THE YEARS. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I, I GUESS SOMEWHERE IN THE CONVERSATION I GOT LOST. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HONORING EVERY PERSON THAT DIE, ARE WE? WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT. I MEAN, IF I RETIRE AND I DIE OF AN OLD AGE, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT. I JUST POINT OF CLARITY. YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HONORING ME. WHAT? SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE WHO. WHO DIE IN THE LINE OF SERVICE IN THE LINE OF DUTY? JUST. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WAS CLEAR. I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT. WE TALKED ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, THE YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THE HONORS THAT WAS VERY CLEAR, THAT HONORS THAT YOU GIVE AND ALL OF THE TYPES OF DEATH THAT YOU WILL HAPPEN. BUT WHEN IT WHEN IT COMES BACK, WE NEED TO BE VERY YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT CLEAR BECAUSE I'M SITTING HERE GOING, OKAY, IF I RETIRE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND I GO HOME AND I LIVE TO BE 76, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GIVING ME A STREET TOPPER OR

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COUNCIL MEMBER. RAFAEL. SURE. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION. THIS IS I THINK IT IS FOR THE FALLEN. AND SO THE MY RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR THOSE WHO DIE IN THE LINE OF DUTY IN THEIR FIRST RESPONDERS ROLE SPECIFICALLY. AND IF FUNDING IS AN ISSUE, I WILL BE HERE FOREVER. DONOR OF PICTURE FRAME MATTING. JUST PLACE IT ON THE WALL. NAILS IF NEEDED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. I SEE NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTS. THANK YOU

[b. Discussion of the permitting process for planned and unplanned protests]

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BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS JUST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE PERSPECTIVE OF READING THE DOCUMENTATION. I DON'T SEE A PROCESS. I DON'T SEE CROWD SIZE, I DON'T SEE THINGS LIKE LOCATION SENSITIVITY, THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, GOING TO A POLICE OFFICERS, I MEAN, A POLICE STATION OR IN FRONT OF SOMEONE'S HOME. I DON'T SEE ANY OF THOSE THINGS IN ANY OF THE DOCUMENTATION. AND SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRYING TO LIMIT SOMEONE'S SPEECH. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THAT. THIS IS SIMPLY ONCE SOMEONE ACTUALLY IS ENGAGED IN AN ACTUAL PEACEFUL PROTEST, THEY DON'T FEEL TARGETED. BUT ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, IF YOU HAD THE OPPOSING SIDE THAT THEY ALSO DON'T FEEL LIKE, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU GUYS AREN'T LETTING US DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. SO IF THERE'S NO PROCESS IN PLACE, THAT WAS THE REASON. I'M SAYING THERE MAY NEED TO BE A PERMIT, NOT ONE THAT IS A PRICEY PERMIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NOT EVEN ONE THAT HAS TO BE DONE 3 OR 4 WEEKS IN ADVANCE. MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME MORE DONE TO THE ACTUAL SPECIAL EVENTS POLICY. THAT HELPS US TO BE READY FOR THE TIME WHEN IT HAPPENS, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE ONE VIEW, YOU MIGHT HAVE AN OPPOSING VIEW, AND WITHOUT THE PROCESS IN PLACE, WHAT IT DOES IS, IS PUT PEOPLE IN PLACE. IT PUTS THE PROTEST IN PLACE, BUT NOT THE OFFICERS, NOT THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE AROUND. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO INFORMATION THAT CAN HELP EVERYBODY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE BEING HEARD AND NOT FEELING VICTIMIZED. SO THAT'S REALLY THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THIS TO THE FOREFRONT. SO WHAT WE DO IF WE IF WE KNOW OF A PROTEST, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING TO PLAN, THEY'RE GOING TO USE SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY'RE GOING TO USE FLIERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WHEN WE HEAR THAT, THEN EITHER MYSELF OR SOMEONE IN OUR ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE ORGANIZERS, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO THEM AND TELL THEM WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO SO THAT THEY REMAIN PEACEFUL.

BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT THOSE DETRACTORS TO COME IN AND CAUSE AN ISSUE. SO WE WILL TELL THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY THEY HAVE A SAFE PROTEST AND THAT IT REMAINS PEACEFUL. AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE OTHER SIDE DOESN'T COME IN AND WE'LL TALK TO THE OTHER SIDE IF THERE IS AN OPPOSING SIDE AND TALK, TALK TO THEM AND TELL THEM WHAT WE PLAN TO DO. AND THAT'S WORK THAT'S WORKED WELL SO FAR. IF YOU WANT US TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND SEE WHAT WE CAN PUT IN PLACE FOR PROTESTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. ESSENTIALLY, THAT IS THE REASON I WAS BRINGING IT FORWARD. NOT THAT I FEEL LIKE WHAT IS ALREADY HAPPENED HASN'T HAPPENED, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T PEACEFUL, BUT THAT BECAUSE I'VE HEARD FROM BOTH SIDES, I'VE HEARD FROM THE SIDE THAT, WELL, WHAT IF I WANTED TO BRING IN MY OWN OPPOSING SIDE? THEN THAT ADDS A LEVEL OF DIFFICULTY TO THE SITUATION.

WHAT IF, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE? WHO ACTUALLY PUT THE PROTEST ON SAYING, I FEEL I'M BEING TARGETED BY THE POLICE. SO IF THERE'S NO PROCESS IN PLACE, PEOPLE CAN SAY THAT ALL DAY LONG UNTIL WE PUT THE PROCESS THERE AND SAY EVERYBODY'S FOLLOWING THE EXACT SAME PROCESS, IT REALLY DOES MAKE FOR A MORE SEAMLESS PROCESS. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING CERTAIN THAT EVERY SIDE GETS HEARD. THAT'S REALLY ALL I WAS BRINGING IT FORWARD FOR, I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU. I SEE NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTS FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC. THANK YOU CHIEF, THANK YOU. I THINK I AM DONE NOW. OKAY. FOR TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THE TOPICS ON OUR AGENDA.

MADAM MAYOR, DID YOU GIVE DID WE GIVE DIRECTION? I MEAN, ARE WE DOING. I DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECTIVES. DO YOU HAVE DIRECTIVES TO GIVE TO STAFF? WELL, I MEAN, WELL, NOT DIRECTIVES. I'M SORRY. COUNCIL. DO YOU ALL HAVE THE I DON'T I? WELL, WHEN I SAID THAT I SAID I DIDN'T SEE ANY LIGHTS FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO SPEAK. SO MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT COUNCIL IS FINE WITH IT AS IS. I COULD BE WRONG. COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY DIRECTIVES WE NEED TO GIVE TO STAFF? IT WOULD NEED TO BE A CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL. OKAY, AS IT ALWAYS IS. MADAM MAYOR, I, I.

ONE THING I LOVE ABOUT DESOTO IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE. NOT A BUNCH OF LOOPHOLES TO EXERCISE YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT, OR AT LEAST I THOUGHT UNTIL MOST RECENTLY. SO I THINK FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT IS VERY IMPORTANT AS PART OF OUR CONSTITUTION. I THINK WHEN WE CREATE LOOPHOLES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ADDITIONAL STEPS JUST TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT, IT BECOMES DIFFICULT TO STATE THAT EVEN IF WE CREATE A PROCESS, IF SOMEONE THINKS THAT

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ONLY BECAUSE I'VE DONE A LOT OF DEEP DIVING ON THE WEBSITE. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, OH YEAH, ESPECIALLY EVENTS BECAUSE I THINK WE HAD A SPECIAL EVENT IN, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE DID IN 2020, I THINK IT WAS 2021 OR 2020. YEAH. AROUND THAT TIME FRAME. YEAH. JUST CLARITY. THANK YOU. SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING A QUESTION AND ANSWER? GREATER CLARITY AS IT RELATES TO. SO I WOULD SAY TAKE A LOOK AT THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE RELATED TO SPECIAL EVENTS ON OUR WEBSITE.

AND IF SOMEONE DID A KEYWORD SEARCH, HOW DO THEY GET TO PROTEST SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT TO DO? AND THEN IF THERE IS ANYTHING JUST IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING CERTAIN THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE, YOU KNOW, MAKING CERTAIN POLICE IS AWARE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING SIMPLE. I MEAN, THAT'S A SELF-DIRECTED THING. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE DECIDING TO DO A PROTEST AND YOU WANT TO MAKE THE CITY AWARE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A MANDATORY THING, BUT JUST CLARITY IN THAT PARTICULAR IN THIS PARTICULAR LANE AS IT RELATES TO A PROTEST, PEACEFUL PROTEST. I'LL SAY IT THAT WAY. EVEN WITH THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME MORE SUBSTANCE TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW, AND THAT'S WHAT'S MISSING. SO EVEN IF YOU PUT IN A WORD, THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO, NO WAY TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE IT'S NOT THERE. SO IN ORDER FOR IT TO GET THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND PROVIDE SOME MORE SUBSTANCE, IF YOU WILL, TO THAT PARTICULAR PROCESS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER. HONESTLY, JUST

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WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SUPPRESS ANYONE'S SPEECH IN ANY WAY. I SAID THAT EARLIER. MY WHOLE GOAL WOULD BE, LET'S BE PROACTIVE, THOUGH, AND NOT IN PROACTIVE NESS. YOU'RE SAYING, LET ME MAKE IT CLEARER. LET ME, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE IS A QUESTION THAT IT CAN BE ANSWERED AND THEY KNOW WHO TO GO TO ANSWER IT. BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I DON'T GET THAT CLARITY AT ALL. SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M COMING FROM. WHEN I COME, WHEN I'M SAYING WHAT I'M SAYING, IT NEEDS TO BE VERY CLEAR WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROCESS. SO THEN, MAYOR, NOT TO BELABOR THIS, I WHAT I HEAR IS THAT THIS IS NOT A PERMIT PROCESS. WE JUST NEED A PLACE ONLINE ON WHAT WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING. THAT'S WHAT I HEAR AS WELL. JUST PROVIDING CLARIFICATION ON THE PROCESS THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE. I WOULDN'T SUPPORT A PERMIT FOR A PROTEST. I THINK IT IS GETTING TOO FAR OVER INTO PEOPLE'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT, AS LONG AS IT'S A PEACEFUL PROTEST. AND LIKE WE SAID, WHEN IT BECOMES UNPEACEFUL, I THINK WE HAVE REMEDY FOR THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER DID I SEE YOUR LIGHT ON EARLIER? NO. I'M GOOD, THANK YOU. OKAY.

SO I THINK WHAT I HEAR AND WHAT I THINK IS REASONABLE IS JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE WEBSITE IN TERMS OF WHAT WHAT RESIDENTS OR INDIVIDUALS IN GENERAL NEED TO DO IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONDUCT A PROTEST. WE HAVE WE HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT THAT HANDLES PARADES, ANYTHING TALKING ABOUT SHUTTING STREETS DOWN, THAT STUFF IS ACTUALLY NOTED UNDER SPECIAL EVENTS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH. I THINK WE'VE EVEN HAD RESIDENTS. I DO KNOW THAT IT IS SOMEWHERE CLEARLY STATED, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD RESIDENTS THAT HAVE HAD THINGS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND HAVE REQUESTED STREETS TO BE SHUT DOWN, EVEN JUST IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO I DO KNOW THAT PROCESS DOES EXIST. SO I THINK IT'S JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR PERMITS AND HOW TO MAKE THE POLICE AWARE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IS WOULD BE NECESSARY, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE REASONABLE. MR. CITY MANAGER, DID YOU HAVE COMMENTS REALLY QUICK? MADAM SECRETARY AND I WERE DISCUSSING A COUPLE OF COUPLE THOUGHTS, AND ONE OF THE IDEAS IS TO CREATE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS FOR SOME OF THOSE ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE SOME, SOME REPEATED OR SOME VAGUENESS TO THEM. SO IT WOULDN'T BE A BAD IDEA TO, YOU KNOW, CREATE A QUESTION AND ANSWER TYPE OF PAGE FOR THIS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CERTAINLY CAN DO. AND THAT THAT CLEARS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO ADD MORE MORE LANGUAGES TO TRY TO MAKE IT CLEARER. WHILE IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE CONVOLUTED. SO I THINK SOME OF THE MORE COMMON QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, COUNCILWOMAN PARKER DID THAT. WAS THAT IS THAT GOOD FOR YOU? I APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER CHEESEMAN, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUGHES TO ADJOURN COUNCIL. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. IT'S 8:38 P.M. COUNCIL. WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED. YOU

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.