[*Meeting Was Joined In Progress*]
[Hampton Road Project Community Meeting on December 19. 2024]
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THE, THE, THE USES THAT ARE RIGHT THERE, RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT, THAT WAY WITH THIS PROJECT, WE'LL KNOW HOW TO TACKLE IT.
AND THEN THERE WAS A TAX INCREMENTAL REINVESTMENT ZONE THAT WAS DONE IN 2022.
AND WITH THIS ONE, TO JUST GIVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION, THIS IS A STUDY WHEREBY, UM, THEY, TO SAY, OKAY, IF THE PROPERTY TAX OR THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTIES TODAY IS SAY, 2000, AND THEN WHEN THERE'S DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PROPERTY, IT BECOMES 2000, SAY 2005, 2,500.
THAT MEANS THERE HAS BEEN A TAX INCREMENT FROM 200 TO TWO THOU 2000, FROM 2000 TO 2005.
SO THAT 500 IS THEN TAKEN TO PUT, TO PUT BACK INTO THE PROJECTS.
SO THINGS LIKE, UH, THE RIPE OF WAY, RIGHT REDESIGN THAT IS REQUIRED, THAT MONEY IS BECA IS GONNA BE COMING FROM THERE WHEN AND WHEN THE PROPERTY VALUES HAVE GONE UP.
SO THAT TEXT INCREMENT THAT COMES WITH THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY GOING UP IS THE MONEY THAT IS GOING TO BE USED TO REDESIGN HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE REDESIGNED BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE WHO ON BICYCLES, PEOPLE WHO ARE ON SCOOTERS OR WHATEVER, AND PEDESTRIANS CAN FREELY WALK WITHOUT, WITHOUT ANY FEAR OF, YOU KNOW, GETTING INTO AN ACCIDENT.
IT HAS TO BE, IT HAS TO BE REDESIGNED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ACCOMMODATION FOR EVERY USE VEHICLES, PEDESTRIANS A MOTORCYCLE, UM, I MEAN, UH, THOSE WHO BE ON BIKES AND SCOOTERS AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT YOU SEE IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT, BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE A DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT MORE SO TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST WANTING TO COME PACK ONCE, WALK AROUND, JUST SIT, EAT, AND JUST HAVE A GOOD TIME ALONG THE, THE, THE CORRIDOR AND THESE STRETCHES FROM BELT LINE TO PRESS AND RUN JUST THAT ONE MILE.
AND THEN THERE WAS A STREET SCAPE THAT WAS DONE.
THIS IS MORE OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HOW TO, TO, TO DESIGN, UH, THE STREET, THE TON CORRIDOR TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, IT'S, IT ACCOMMODATES A PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT.
THEN IN 2024, THERE WAS A, UH, THE CHARACTER CODE, THE REGULATIONS WERE ADOPTED BY THE CITY.
THAT MEANS, YOU KNOW, HOW THE BUILDING ARE, ARE GOING TO BE SET UP, THE, THE SETBACKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED, HOW THE BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
ALL THAT WAS ALREADY, THE REGULATIONS THAT WILL APPLY TO THIS PROJECT WERE ADOPTED IN 2024 IN MARCH.
AND, UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE JUST, UH, COMPLETED OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE 2024 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ALSO, IT WAS UPDATING THE, UH, 2015, WHICH 2015 HAD THE HAMPTON PROJECT, AND THIS 2024, THE UPDATE OF THAT 2015 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STILL INCORPORATED THE HAMPTON.
THERE WAS THE VISION, THERE IS STILL THE VISION FOR HAMPTON, UH, HAMPTON ROAD PROJECT.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER STUDY ALSO THAT WAS DONE THEN.
UM, THEN IN 20 20, 24, AGAIN, THERE WAS A, IN MAY THERE WAS A, THE REZONING THAT CAME BEFORE, BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING FIRST, AND THEN IN MAY 20 BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
BUT THAT, UH, REZONING WAS, UH, INVOLVING A BIGGER AREA AND THAT, UM, THAT, THAT THE REZONING OF THOSE PROPERTIES WAS WITHDRAWN, ALMOST LIKE NULLIFIED TO SAY, UH, LET'S GO BACK.
THE CITY COUNCIL WAS NOT VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE, I MEAN, THEY WERE NOT HAPPY BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE NOT HAPPY.
SO THEY THOUGHT, NO, IT'S NOT WISE FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND REASON THIS AREA.
BECAUSE IT INVOLVED A LOT OF, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT A LOT OF PROPERTY OWNERS WERE LIKE, NO, I WOULDN'T WANT MY HOUSE TO BE MADE, MY PROPERTY TO BE MADE NON-CONFORMING.
SO CITY COUNCIL LISTENED TO THE RESIDENTS AND THEY DECIDED TO, TO, TO PULL BACK AND SAY, UH, LET'S RETHINK THIS.
LET'S RE-ENVISION, LET'S PULL BACK AND, UH, LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
SO THEY DID WITHDRAW THAT ARE, THAT ARE REZONING IN, UH, IN 2024.
SO WITH THAT, THE WITHDRAW, THEN, UM, THEY PUT IT BACK ON STAFF SO THAT WE CAN TAKE IT BACK TO THE, TO, TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO BETWEEN MAY AND JUNE, JULY THIS YEAR, STAFF AND, UM, THE CONSULTANT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, WE HAD COUPLE, I MEAN, MULTIPLE MEETINGS WHERE WE WERE CHATTING THE WAY FORWARD TO SAY, OKAY, WHERE DO WE GO? BECAUSE THIS VISION HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE FROM 2005.
HOWEVER, THE REASONING OF THE WHOLE AREA THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT INITIALLY, IT'S BEING RESISTED, IS, I MEAN, IT'S NOT GETTING
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THE SUPPORT THAT WE NEED.WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? BECAUSE THE CITY STILL WANTS TO DO SOMETHING, BUT WHAT IS THAT SOMETHING? HOW CAN WE DO IT BETTER? HOW CAN WE DO IT, UH, IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE HAVE THE SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY? BECAUSE IN AS MUCH AS PLANNERS AND THE CITY, UM, I MEAN, ADMINISTRATION MAY TRY TO DO THINGS WE CAN ON NOT DO IT WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THE RESIDENTS.
SO WE WERE JUST TRYING TO SEE A WAY FORWARD.
AND WITH THOSE MEETINGS, UH, THEY CAME UP A, A, A VISION THAT LET'S PULL BACK THE BOUNDARIES OF THIS AREA.
SO MUCH SO THAT WE CONCENTRATE ON AREAS ON PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALONG HAMPTON.
MOST OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE ALREADY COMMERCIAL.
SO WE SAID, LET'S PULL THIS BOUNDARY AND FOCUS MORE ON THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALONG HAMPTON.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS WHEN, UM, THESE MEETINGS, THAT'S WHAT THOSE MEETINGS PRODUCED.
AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE WISE FOR US TO GO WITH THE, WITH, UM, APPOINTED OFFICIALS AS WELL AS, UH, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT, UM, DISORDER DEVELOPMENT COOPERATION TO, FOR ON A TOOL TO SEE OTHER PLACES WHERE THIS HAS BEEN DONE.
SO ON BETWEEN JULY AND MAY AND JULY, THAT'S WHEN THAT VISION CAME.
AND THEN WE, WE SAID, OKAY, BEFORE WE DO THAT, THIS IS STAFF AND THE CONSULTANT, BUT WE NEED TO GIVE IT TO, TO CITY COUNCIL.
WE NEED THE PNC TO KNOW, WE NEED THE DISORDER DEVELOPMENT COOPERATION TO KNOW WE NEED TO HOLD A JOINT WORK SESSION WITH THEM AND TELL US YES, WHAT WE THOUGHT YOU SAID, FOR US TO RETHINK THIS, YOU SAID, FOR US TO REIMAGINE THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE THINKING NOW.
SO WE HAVE THOUGHT TO COME WITH A COME UP WITH A REDUCE THE BOUNDARY, AND WE ALSO WANT YOU TO TAKE A TOUR SO YOU CAN SEE THAT YES, IT IS POSSIBLE, OTHER CITIES HAS DONE IT, SO WE CAN BE ABLE TO DO IT.
WE NEED YOU TO GO TO OTHER PLACES WITH US SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT IS THAT IS POSSIBLE IN, IN, UH, IN, IN DISORDER.
SO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE WERE, WERE ABLE TO, TO, TO, TO, TO HEAR FROM THE PRESENTATION FROM THE CONSULTANT THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH.
AND THEY, WE THEN TOOK A, A TOUR TO TRINITY GROUPS.
WE ALSO WENT TO BISHOP ARTS TO SEE WHAT IS THERE.
WE COULDN'T MANAGE TO GO TO OTHER SITES THAT WE WANTED.
WE WANTED TO GO TO LOUISVILLE.
UH, SO, BUT THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO DO SO.
SO WE WENT TO TRINITY, UM, GROVES AS WELL AS BISHOP ARTS.
AND THEN ON NOVEMBER 18, WE TOOK THAT BECAUSE ON THE, AT THE AUGUST 23, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF ATTENDANCE IN TERMS OF OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THERE WERE THREE OF THEM, THE MAYOR, UH, COUNCILMAN BIRD, AND, UM, AND, UM, COUNCILWOMAN PARKER.
THOSE WERE THE THREE THAT ATTENDED ON THE 23RD OF AUGUST.
SO WE FELT LIKE WE NEED TO ALSO HEAR FROM THE OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO WE TOOK, AGAIN, THAT ARE REDUCED BOUNDARY VISION TO THE, TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 18 TO GET THEIR CONSENSUS.
SO AT THE NOVEMBER 18, ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBER PEOPLE WERE THERE, AND WE PRESENTED THE VISION FOR THE REDUCED BOUNDARY.
AND THEY WERE, THEY GAVE US CONSENSUS TO SAY, GO AHEAD AND START PUBLIC INPUT, PUBLIC, UH, OUTREACH, PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION, THE ONES THAT WE ARE DOING NOW.
SO THIS WAS, UH, SOMETHING THAT THE CITY SAID, LET'S GO OUT.
THEY HAVEN'T NED THE FIRST, IT'S NOT YET NED, BUT THEY SAID, THIS IS TIME FOR YOU TO GO OUT TO TALK TO THE, I MEAN, TO, TO, TO TALK TO THE RESIDENTS AND TELL THEM ABOUT THIS NEW VISION, UH, WITH THE HOPE THAT WE'LL GET AT LEAST SOME SUPPORT AND SOME FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE REENVISIONED UH, UM, UH, PROJECT.
AND ON DECEMBER 10, WE KNOW THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL, UM, THEY HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON REZONING OF PROPERTIES, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE.
SO WE WENT AHEAD AND, UH, TOOK THIS, UM, REDUCED BOUNDARY TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THEM TO KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT ARE CONSENSUS THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN.
THE CITY COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH THE REDUCED BOUNDARY.
SO WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS IS WHAT STUFF IS BEGINNING TO WORK WITH, AND WE WANT YOU TO BE IN THE LOOP.
SO WE TOOK THAT TO, UH, TO OUR DECEM TO OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON DECEMBER 10.
SO THEY, NOW, THIS COMMISSION IS ALSO IN THE KNOW OF WHAT IS HAPPENING.
SO WITH THAT ALSO, SO AFTER THAT, HERE IS WHAT WAS, UH, THE MAP ON THE RIGHT.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE INITIALLY, WE HAD IN MIND, AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT I TALKED ABOUT, THE TAX INCREMENTAL REINVESTMENT ZONE, THIS
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ONE WITH ALL THESE OTHER RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON THE SIDE.SO THIS WAS THE, THE, THE FIRST ONE, AND LET ME LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, WHILE WE ARE NOT GOING TO REASON THIS AREA, EVERYTHING IN THIS AREA, BUT THE BOUNDARY ITSELF IS NOT GOING AWAY BECAUSE THAT TAX INCREMENTAL REINVESTMENT ZONE IS GONNA STAY THERE.
BUT FOR NOW, WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT ALL THESE PROPERTIES.
WE ARE NOW JUST FOCUSING ON THIS PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALONG HAMPTON AND A FEW ON HERE ON BELTLINE THAT ARE ON THESE SIDES.
BUT MOST OF THESE PROPERTIES, THEY ARE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
YES, WE DO HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES HERE, BUT MOST OF THESE, THEY ARE NOW COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
NOW, WE ARE NOT TOUCHING ALL THESE OTHER RESIDENTIAL PLACES RIGHT HERE THAT WE INCLUDED, OR THIS ONE'S RIGHT HERE.
WE ARE JUST FOCUSING ON THE, ON THESE PROPERTIES RIGHT HERE WITH THE NOTION AND THE UNDERSTANDING THAT, WELL, LET'S START WITH THE COMMERCIAL AREAS, AND IF THIS CHANGE, MAYBE THERE WILL BE INTEREST FOR SOMEONE OUTSIDE TO SAY, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEONE WHO IS HERE IN THIS YELLOW, YELLOW AREA, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY ARE OUT, BUT RIGHT HERE, THEY MAY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I WANT TO VOLUNTARILY, THEY MAY SAY, I WANT MY PROPERTY TO SELL MY PROPERTY OR MYSELF TO DO SOMETHING.
THEN THEY CAN BE ABLE TO COME, WE CAN BE ABLE TO DO WORK WITH THEM, BECAUSE THAT AREA IS STILL UNDER THIS THOUGH.
THE REZONING IS NOW JUST FOCUSING ON THIS AREA RIGHT HERE.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE IDEA THAT, UH, WE WANT TO WORK WITH THIS FIRST AND WITH THE HOPE THAT IT'LL REALLY PICK UP AND WE SEE SOME, SOME ACTIVITIES, WE SEE SOME NICE THINGS COMING TO DISORDER, AND THEN WE CAN, UH, MOVE FORWARD.
SO WITH THIS REDUCED BOUNDARY STUFF WENT AHEAD AND, UH, MADE SURE THAT, UH, WE ARE CLEAR ON THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE NON-CONFORMING.
SO THESE ARE THE PROPERTIES, THE ONES IN GREEN THAT ARE GOING TO BE NON-CONFORMING.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS CONFORMING.
SO THAT'S THE GREAT NEWS THAT WE HAVE THAT IN THE PAST, IT USED TO BE HUNDREDS OF PROPERTIES, BECAUSE ORIGINALLY WE HAD ABOUT 400 AND SOMETHING PROPERTIES THAT WITH THE REDUCED BOUNDARIES, WITH THE REDUCED BOUNDARY, WE ONLY HAVE 200 AND SOMETHING.
AND OUT OF THOSE 200 AND SOMETHING IS ONLY 22 PROPERTIES THAT ARE NONCONFORMING, JUST 22 ONLY.
AND WHO OUR PLAN IS TO MEET WITH THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS INDIVIDUALLY OF THOSE PROPERTIES TO TALK TO THEM.
BECAUSE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS THAT, UH, IN AS MUCH AS THEY'LL BE MADE NONCONFORMING, THERE IS A PROCESS IN OUR, IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS THOSE PEOPLE, IF THEY WANT TO EXPAND, WE DO HAVE ONE SECTION THAT SAYS IF, UH, THEIR PROPERTY'S DESTROYED AND THE APPRAISAL IS, UH, MORE THAN 60%, THEY CANNOT GO BACKEND REBUILD LIKE IT WAS IN THE PAST.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE A VENUE WHERE THOSE PEOPLE CAN USE THEIR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
IF THEY WANT TO EXTEND, THEY CAN GO TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? MY PROPERTY HAS BEEN DESTROYED MORE THAN 60%, BUT I WANT TO REBUILD IT TO THE WAY THAT IT WAS WITHOUT HAVING TO CONFORM WITH THIS NEW ZONING.
THERE IS A WAY THAT THEY CAN DO IT ACCORDING TO, TO, TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, AND THAT WILL BE THROUGH BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
AND IN THIS CASE OF, IN, IN THE CASE OF THESE, UH, PROPERTIES, STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO, TO SUPPORT, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE PROCESS WILL KNOW WHY THIS PERSON OR THESE PROPERTIES NON-CONFORMING HAVING GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
SO THERE IS A BREATHER THERE, THERE IS AN OPENING THERE FOR YOU.
ALL THE, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WHO HAVE THEIR PROPERTIES ARE SO-CALLED NON-CONFORMING, WHICH ARE THESE PROPERTIES RIGHT HERE IN GREEN.
SO LET'S GO INTO MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE, THIS IS THE MAJOR ONE.
THE, THE MAIN, I WOULD SAY THE, THE HEART OF THE REZONING.
AND WITH THE URBAN CENTER, THIS IS WHERE WE, WE ARE ENVISIONING, UH, PROPERTIES THAT ARE LIKE UP TO FIVE, UH, STORIES.
AND THE BOTTOM LINE, THE, THE FIRST FLOOR BEING COMMERCIAL WHEREBY PEOPLE CAN BEHAVE, CAN HAVE RESTAURANTS, UH, BOUTIQUE SHOPS AND ALL THAT ON THE, ON THE, ON THE, ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
BUT THE REST WILL BE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
AND THE REASON FOR THIS IS THAT ARE, IT ENCOURAGES PEOPLE.
A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE NOWADAYS, THEY DON'T WANT TO DRIVE AS MUCH AS WE, SOME OF US HAVE HAD TO, TO, TO LEARN TO DO, TO JUST LOVE IT THAT WAY.
THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO STAY ON THE, ON HERE, BE ABLE TO EAT, WALK AROUND, HAVE A GOOD TIME, GO BACK IN, IN THE HOUSE.
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LOVE THAT.AND EVEN SOME, SOMEWHERE A LOT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, ELDERLY PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING, YEAH, I WANT A PLACE WHEREBY I CAN BE LIVING UP, UP HERE, COME DOWNSTAIRS TO EAT OR GO, JUST WALK DOWN DOWN THE STREET AND I'M ABLE TO HAVE A GOOD RESTAURANT, BE ABLE TO INTERACT WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST HAVING A GOOD TIME.
AND I GO BACK TO, AH, MY APARTMENT.
SO THIS, THIS, UH, UM, ZONING DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR THAT.
AND SOME OF THE TARGETED USES ARE MIXED USE, WHICH IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, MIXED IN TERMS OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND THEN SHOPPING AND PERSONAL SERVICES, PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE, UH, THIS IS, UH, UM, RESTAURANTS, RETAIL AND STUFF.
SECOND FLOOR CAN BE OFFICES, THIRD FLOOR AND FIFTH, FOURTH AND FIFTH CAN BE RESIDENTIAL AND THEN RESTAURANTS AND BARS.
SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TARGETING FOR THAT ARE FASTER, OR THE GROUND FLOOR.
AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF, UH, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS JUST AN EXAMPLE.
WE ARE NOT SAYING IT'S GONNA BE LIKE THIS BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE GOING TO COME AND DO IT.
SO IT'LL BE LOOKING MORE LIKE THIS.
THEN THE SECOND ONE IS URBAN GENERAL.
AND IN URBAN GENERAL, AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, MIXED USE.
WE ARE LOOKING AT SHOPS OR PERSONAL, IT'S MORE LIKE, UH, THE URBAN CENTER, BUT NOT AS INTENSE AS URBAN CENTER.
THAT'S THE URBAN GENERAL, BUT IT'S MORE OR LESS THE SAME THING.
AND THE AREAS THAT ARE GO ARE MARKED FOR THAT URBAN CENTER ARE THESE ONES.
THESE PROPERTIES RIGHT HERE, THE PROPERTIES IN GRAY, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE EARMARKED FOR URBAN CENTER.
AND THOSE ARE THE USES, LIKE I SAID, TARGETED USES RIGHT HERE.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING INTO.
AND AN EXAMPLE, AN EXAMPLE OF THOSE USES IS THIS, THIS ONE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S ALMOST LIKE URBAN CENTER, BUT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
SO URBAN CENTER AND URBAN GENERAL, THOSE ARE THE MOST INTENSE.
BUT, UH, IT'S MORE MIXED USE WITH, UH, RE UH, COMMERCIAL ON THE LOWER LEVEL AND THEN, UH, OFFICES OR RESIDENTIAL ON THE UPPER LEVELS.
AND THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES ARE THESE, UH, IT'S ALMOST LIKE, UH, SHOPPING STRIPS WHERE YOU HAVE, UH, PERSONAL SERVICES USED AND ALL THAT.
AND IN THOSE, IN THOSE AREAS, YOU CAN HAVE TOWN HOMES.
YOU CAN HAVE MAYBE A SHOPPING STRIP RIGHT AT THE, TOWARDS THE, THE, THE STREET AND HERE FOR YOUR APARTMENTS OR TOWN HOMES, UH, AT THE BACK.
BUT THOSE, THEY ARE PRIMARILY, UH, FOCUSING ON SHOPPING AND PERSONAL SERVICE USES OFFICES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND THE AREAS THAT ARE TARGETED ARE JUST THIS, THIS ONE'S RIGHT HERE AND THIS ONE'S RIGHT HERE.
AND THOSE TWO UP HERE, THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT ARE TARGETED FOR NAPAL.
THEN URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT COVERS JUST A TINY LITTLE BIT RIGHT HERE, THE YELLOW AREA.
AND FOR THAT, WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, THINGS LIKE APARTMENTS, TWO, THREE STORY APARTMENTS.
WE ARE LOOKING AT TOWN ROOMS. TOWN ROOMS CAN BE THREE STORY.
WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME MIXED USE, BUT NOT AS MUCH.
IT'S MORE OF, UH, NOW TRANSITIONING, TRANSITIONING TO, TO RESIDENTIAL.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DO HAVE APARTMENTS, TOWN HOMES AND STUFF.
SO THEY WILL BE KIND OF SHIELDING, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FROM THOSE AREAS THAT ARE INTENSE.
THEN WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.
THIS IS ALSO MORE OF THE TOWN HOMES, LIKE IN BETWEEN AND THIS, THIS, THESE ARE, OOPS.
AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION IS THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, WHERE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TOWN HOMES AGAIN, MEAN THAT IN THOSE AREAS, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ARE ALLOWED, AND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ARE ALLOWED IN THIS.
AND IT'S JUST COVERING THIS PORTION RIGHT HERE.
AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A TOWN HOMES THAT SOMEONE CAN BUILD IN N TRANSITION
AND YOU MAY BE WONDERING WHY, WHY GO THROUGH ALL THIS? LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, THIS IS GIVING DISORDER AN OPPORTUNITY THAT DISORDER DOESN'T CURRENTLY HAVE.
WHEN WE ARE DOING THE, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE USED TO HEAR OVER AND OFFER AGAIN, WE WANT SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS.
WE WANT PLACES WHERE WE CAN GO AND JUST ENJOY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE RIGHT NOW IN DESOTO, THEY ARE GO, THEY GO TO OTHER PLACES, THEY GO UP NORTH, THEY GO, SOME GO TO, UH, CEDAR HILL, SOME THEY JUST GO DIFFERENT PLACES TO JUST SAVE THIS NICE UNIQUE PLACES THAT ARE SELLING FOOD THAT THEY ARE
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LIKE, NOT THE REGULAR, BUT JUST A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN JUST GO AND RELAX.WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF THAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, MONEY GOING OUT EVERYWHERE ELSE AND NOT COMING IN.
AND THIS IS CREATING A, THAT ONE MILE STRIPPING DISORDER THAT WE CAN START HAVING PEOPLE COME HERE AND SAY, LET'S GO TO DESOTO.
YOU NEED TO GO TO DESOTO TO THAT DOWNTOWN AREA THAT WAS JUST CREATED.
THERE ARE THESE NICE RESTAURANTS.
IT'S A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN JUST DINE AND YOU CAN JUST SIT AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST A GOOD TIME RELAXING AND STUFF.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO, TO, TO CREATE.
IT'LL JUST BOOST, BOOST THE ECONOMIC, UH, VIBRANCE OF THE CITY BECAUSE THEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL RETAIL RETAILERS.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE BOUTIQUE STORES.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS.
UH, IT'LL CREATE THAT THIRD PLACE.
YOU MAY WONDER, THIS IS THE TERMINOLOGY THAT USED IN PLANNING.
THIRD PLACE MEANS IF I'M NOT AT WORK, IF I'M NOT AT HOME, THERE'S THAT THIRD PLACE WHERE I CAN SAY I'M JUST GOING TO GO.
AND JUST MAYBE SOMETIMES THEY, SOME, SOME OF, SOME OF US, THEY WORK, PEOPLE WORK FROM HOME.
YOU JUST, YOU GET JUST TIRED OF JUST BEING HOME.
SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DISORDER TO CREATE THAT THIRD PLACE.
IT'LL ALSO BE FOR THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT LIKE TO LIVE.
AND YOU ARE MEANT TO JUST LIVE THE SAME PLACE WHERE THEY WORK AND BE ABLE TO PLAY.
THIS IS THE PLACE I'M LEAVING UPSTAIRS, AND THE UPSTAIRS I HAVE MY OFFICE, I CAN WORK ALL DAY, BUT AT THE, IN THE EVENING OR DURING WEEKENDS OR HOLIDAYS, I WANT ME A GOOD TIME.
BUT INSTEAD OF ME HAVING TO DRIVE TO NORTH DALLAS, INSTEAD OF ME HAVING TO GO TO CEDAR HILL, I HAVE A PLACE HERE.
INSTEAD OF ME HAVING TO GO TO WAXAHATCHEE OR W OR SOMETHING, WHATEVER, THERE IS A PLACE IN DESOTO WHERE I CAN JUST GO AND UH, AND AND DO THOSE THINGS.
IT ALSO CREATES A FLEXIBLE SPACE.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, I DUNNO WHETHER YOU HAVE BEEN TO PLACES WHERE THEY MAYBE ONCE IN THE, ON A SPECIAL, SPECIAL, UM, CELEBRATION THAT ARE THE CITY ONCE HOLD, THEY CAN JUST CLOSE THOSE, THAT CITY, I MEAN THOSE STREETS AND THEN JUST, UH, HAVE THAT AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE ARE HAVING THE COMMUNITY CAN COME AND JUST HAVE THEIR FESTIVALS THERE.
THEY JUST HAVE THEIR CELEBRATIONS THERE.
THIS IS THE PLACE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE.
THOSE WHO WANT TO BE BUYING WHATEVER THEIR STORES, THEIR RESTAURANTS, THEIR EVERYTHING WILL THERE WILL BE THERE.
SO THIS WILL CREATE THAT, THAT SPACE.
IT'LL BE ALSO A SPACE THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL INTERACT WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
YOU GET TO MEET OTHER PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE NEVER MET BEFORE.
AND BECAUSE EVERYONE IS COMING TO THIS PLACE.
SO IT IS INDEED A PLACE THAT DISORDER SHOULD BE DESIRING.
IT IS A PLACE, YES, WITH EVERY CHANGE, AT FIRST IT FEELS LIKE, UGH, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'VE LIVED CLOSE TO WHERE THEY'LL BE DOING ROADS, ROAD CONSTRUCTION.
YOU'LL BE, I AM, I, THANK GOD I'M NOT ONE PERSON WHO CURSE.
NO, BUT PEOPLE WILL BE LIKE, BUT ONCE THAT ROAD IS DONE, AT LEAST I'VE BEEN ONE PERSON.
NOW THAT I'M IN PLANNING, I'M ONE PERSON WHO WANTS TO ALMOST GO AND EMBRACE THOSE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE CHANGES BECAUSE IT'LL BE SO SMOOTH, IT'LL BE SO NICE AND IT FEELS GOOD TO DRIVE THERE.
BUT WHEN IT'S BEING DONE, IT'S ROUGH.
SO I AM HERE TO SAY THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW.
IT FEELS LIKE, AH, NAH, YEAH, BUT WE OUGHT TO BE A PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, SEE TOMORROW.
IT'S NOT HERE TODAY, BUT WE CAN DO IT.
AND HERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
ROME WAS NOT BUILT IN ONE DAY, SO DESOTO CAN BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING.
WE, I WAS AT A CONFERENCE, AT A PLANNING CONFERENCE, UH, IN OCTOBER, AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY OF GARLAND.
THEY HAVE, UH, THE GALLAND SQUARE, I THINK IT'S CALLED.
THEY SAID THEY STARTED ALSO AROUND 2002, 2005.
AND I, WHEN, WHEN THEY SAID THAT, I SAID TO MYSELF, OH, SO DISORDER IS NOT CRAZY.
WE HAVE THIS PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT 2005 FROM 2005, BUT IT HASN'T.
SO IT'S, WE ARE NOT LIKE FAR, FAR OFF.
WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE BIG PROJECTS, THEY TAKE TIME.
YOU GO THERE, IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
IN GAND IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
SO WE CAN BE ABLE TO SAY THAT, THAT YES, IT TOOK THIS MANY YEARS, PEOPLE, WE HAVE GONE, COME AND GONE.
BUT SEE, AT SOME POINT WE HAD TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
AND I BELIEVE THE TIME HAS COME FOR DISORDER TO DO WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO.
AND I UNDERSTAND FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY ARE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE ALREADY KNOCKING ON DOORS.
THEY WERE AT THAT JOINT MEETING THAT I TALKED ABOUT, JUST WANTING TO HEAR WHAT THE OFFICIALS ARE SAYING.
THEY'RE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE READY TO COME AND
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DO THE WORK.BUT WE NEED THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT IT.
WE NEED THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, YES, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SUPPORT.
YES, IF A RESTAURANT, A NICE RESTAURANT COMES, I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO GO AND EAT OF THEM TO THAT RESTAURANT.
SO WE NEED THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
THIS IS WHY WE ARE DOING THIS.
AND BECAUSE WE WANT THE COMMUNITY INPUT, WE WANT THE STAKEHOLDERS ALL THE SUPPORT.
WE ARE HAVING THIS MEETING, THESE MEETINGS.
SO FOR DECEMBER, WE HAD THESE MEETINGS.
WE HAD A MEETING ON SATURDAY, DECEMBER 14TH.
WE HAD A MEETING ON, UM, ON TUESDAY NIGHT.
WE ALSO HAVING THIS MEETING TODAY AND, UH, THIS, THIS ONE WAS ON SATURDAY TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE WHO CANNOT COME DURING THE WEEK BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
ON, ON, ON, ON TUESDAY WE HAD A MEETING IN THE EVENING.
FOR THOSE THAT PREFER TO COME IN THE EVENING FROM WORK, THEY JUST COME HERE.
AND TODAY WE ARE HAVING A MEETING DURING THE DAY.
FOR THOSE THAT DON'T WANT TO COME OVER THE WEEKEND, THEY DON'T WANT TO COME IN THE EVENING, BUT DON'T WANT, THEY CAN COME DURING THE DAY.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO BE ACCOMMODATIVE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE WORD OUT.
AND IN JANUARY, NOT ONLY IF, UH, PEOPLE WE KNOW THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, PEOPLE ARE HAVING, YOU KNOW, A GOOD TIME BUYING AND WHATEVER FOR PREPARING FOR CHRISTMAS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE SAID AFTER THE CHRISTMAS, AFTER CHRISTMAS, HOPEFULLY PEOPLE ARE MORE SETTLED.
UH, JUST THEY ARE NOT GOING TO MANY PLACES.
SO WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND IF THIS, AGAIN, THIS, UH, JANUARY 11TH ON A SATURDAY AND IT'LL BE FROM NINE TO NOON.
AND THEN JANUARY 16, IT'LL BE ONLY A THURSDAY.
AND ON THAT THURSDAY, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING DURING THE DAY FROM 10 TO 10 TO 12, JUST LIKE TODAY.
AND ON THE SAME DAY, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN THE EVENING FROM, UH, FROM SIX TO EIGHT.
SO ALL THIS TO TRY AND ACCOMMODATE DIFFERENT, UH, SCHEDULES AND, UH, PEOPLE'S TIME.
AND WHEN THAT IS DONE, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO DO A WORK SESSION.
WE ARE DOING A SPECIAL WORK SESSION WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BECAUSE WE DO HAVE NEW MEMBERS THAT MAY NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS, UH, HAMPTON PROJECT.
THEY WERE NOT INVOLVED WHEN WE STARTED THIS.
SO WE NEED TO GIVE THEM MORE WORK, UH, MORE INFORMATION SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, JANUARY 28 WHEN THEY HAVE TO DO THE NING, THEY ARE WELL INFORMED.
THEY HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
SO THAT IS GOING TO BE, UM, JANUARY 14TH AND JANUARY 28.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC, UM, HEARING, UH, SESSION FOR THE NING OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT I TALKED ABOUT.
AND THEN WE ARE HOPING THAT IF ALL GOES WELL WITH OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE, UH, THE NING OF THE PROPERTIES, UH, ON UM, FEBRUARY 18TH.
SO YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME TO ALL THESE MEETINGS.
THEY'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND WE WOULD WANT YOU, IF YOU NEED TO KNOW MORE INFORMATION, UH, TO, TO COME.
AND BESIDES ANYTHING ELSE, WE REALLY WANT YOUR SUPPORT TO JUST COME AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD KNOWING THAT WE HAVE A RESIDENT SUPPORT.
UM, MS. JORDAN IS GONNA COME AND, UH, GIVE YOU INFORMATION ON HOW TO FIND THIS INFORMATION THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ON THE WEBSITE, HOW TO NAVIGATE THE WEBSITE SO YOU GET THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED.
BECAUSE WE KNOW SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT WANT TO COME HERE, MAY NOT BE ABLE TO COME HERE, BUT THEY CAN GO ON THE WEBSITE AND BE ABLE TO FIND THE INFORMATION.
SO SHE'S GONNA COME AND HELP YOU ALL, UH, TO NAVIGATE THE, UM, WEBSITE.
SO I'M JUST GONNA, UH, HELP YOU NAVIGATE THROUGH THE CITY'S WEBSITE TO GET TO THIS INFORMATION THAT MS. BESTER JUST SHARED.
'CAUSE IT COULD, UH, CAN BE A LITTLE HIDDEN IF YOU DO NOT VISIT THE CITY WEBSITE OFTEN.
SO THE FIRST THING YOU'RE GONNA DO IS GO TO THE CITY WEBSITE AND YOU'RE GONNA HOOP OVER, UM, BUSINESS UNDER THE BUSINESS, UH, TAB ON A NAVIGATIONAL BAR.
YOU'LL SEE HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR PLAN MAP.
ONCE YOU CLICK ON THAT LINK, IT'S GONNA TAKE YOU TO THE HAMPTON ROAD CODE ZONING DISTRICT MAP.
SO THERE'S THREE TABS THAT GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE UH, HAMPTON ROAD PROJECT, BUT WE ARE GONNA FOCUS ON THE SECOND ONE, UM, WHICH IS THE INTERACTIVE DISTRICT MAP FOR THE HAMPTON ROAD PROJECT.
THIS MAP TAKES YOU TO THE FOCUS AREA THAT MS. BESTA JUST SPOKE ON.
SO ONCE YOU GET ON THAT PAGE, YOU CAN CLICK ON, UM, ANY PARCEL THAT INTERESTS YOU.
UM, ONCE YOU CLICK ON THAT PARCEL, YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UH, A BOX AT THE TOP IS, UM, LABELED DOC.
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THAT, UH, TAB IS GOING TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THAT PARCEL.UM, IT OPENS UP BIGGER ONCE YOU CLICK ON IT.
SO THE CURRENT ZONING WILL BE OFFICE TWO.
AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE THE PROPOSED ZONING, WHICH IS URBAN CENTER.
IF YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, YOU'LL SEE ALL THE INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, ZONING FOR A HAMPTON ROAD PROJECT.
SO YOU, ON THIS MAP, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO CLICK ON YOUR PROPERTY UNLESS IT IS PART OF THE HAMPTON ROAD, UH, CHARACTER CODE FOCUS MAP, WHICH ARE THE HIGHLIGHTED, UM, PARCELS, THE COLOR CODED PARCELS.
UM, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER INTERACTIVE MAP ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN CLICK ON YOUR PAR PARCEL OR ANY OTHER PARCEL YOU'RE INTERESTED IN AND GET, UM, THAT INFORMATION.
SO YOU WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE, UH, FIRST PAGE OF THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND STILL UNDER THAT BUSINESS TAB ON THE NAVIGATIONAL BAR, YOU WILL SEE THE LINK INTERACTIVE MAPS.
ONCE YOU CLICK THERE, IT'LL TAKE YOU TO A DIFFERENT MAP FOR THE CITY.
THERE'S A MAGNIFYING GLASS AT THE TOP.
UM, YOU WANNA CLICK THERE AND PUT YOUR DESIRED ADDRESS IN THERE.
SO MR. TRENT IS GONNA HELP US OUT AND THE ADDRESS, SO IT'LL GO TO THAT, UH, THAT PROPERTY.
BUT YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CLICK ON PLANNING ZONING IN THE, UH, LAYERS TAB, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE COLORS POP UP THAT'LL SHOW YOU, UM, THE DIFFERENT ZONING.
THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL IS UNDER PD ONE 30, SO IT'LL LET YOU KNOW THE CURRENT ZONING.
SO EACH ZONING HAS A DIFFERENT, UH, COLOR CODING TO IT.
SO YOU SEE HOW IT CLICKED ON THIS, THE, UH, PROPERTY NEXT TO IT AND IT SAYS GENERAL RETAIL.
THAT'S HOW YOU CAN FIND THE CURRENT ZONING OF YOUR PROPERTY IF IT'S NOT LOCATED IN THE, UH, FOCUS MAP FOR THE HAMPTON ROAD, UH, CHARACTER CODE PROJECT.
SO, UM, AT THE END OF THIS MEETING, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, UH, YOU COULD COME UP TO, UH, THE DESK WHERE MR. TRENT IS SITTING AND WE CAN HELP YOU FIND THAT INFORMATION AND, UM, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON HOW TO NAVIGATE THOSE SYSTEMS. BUT IF, UM, IF YOU WILL, AT THE BACK TABLE, WE DO HAVE THE, UM, INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO NAVIGATE THE HALF THE ROW CORRIDOR MAP, UM, IN THE BACK.
SO YOU CAN TAKE THAT WITH YOU AND IT'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE STEPS THAT I JUST EXPLAINED TO YOU.
NOW THAT WE HAVE TALKED A LOT, IT'S NOW YOUR TIME TO TALK TO US.
DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? IF YOU WANT TO SOMETHING INDIVIDUAL AND YOU WANT TO GET WITH THESE GUYS IN TERMS OF GETTING TO KNOW EXACTLY WHETHER YOUR PROPERTIES AFFECTED OR NOT OR WHATEVER YOU, YOU CAN GET WITH THAT PLANNING TEAM AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HELP YOU.
I MEAN, I WANT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, IF ANY.
THE PLAN IS TO STILL REDUCE THE LANES DOWN TO ONE.
WELL, IT'S GONNA BE ONE GOING ONE, YEAH, ONE COMING.
SO LIKE I SAID, I, IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS DESIRED FOR THIS KIND OF, UH, PROJECTS BECAUSE IF IT'S LEFT THE WAY IT IS, IT'S NOT GOING TO REALLY WORK.
SO FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DESIGN AN EFFORT THAT ROOM FOR, FOR THERE WILL BE, UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT FOR THE STREET REDESIGN.
MY CONCERN IS IT'S BEING ABLE TO ACCESS MY HOUSE.
WHERE, WHERE, WHERE IS YOUR HOUSE, IF YOU DON'T MIND? UM, YOU CAN, YOU CAN COME, IT'S 2 0 4 LYNETTE CIRCLE.
GO AHEAD AND PULL UP THE, THE MAP.
AND I BELIEVE, UH, FROM PLANNING, I MEAN, THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN MAKE SOMEONE'S PROPERTY INACCESSIBLE.
AND LTT IS, IS IT WITHIN THE HAMPTON?
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SO THAT'S YOUR PROPERTY.SO, SO IT IS OUTSIDE AND WE ARE NOT TOUCHING THAT AREA, BUT HAMPTON, WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON, HAMPTON, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS TO GET TO MY HOUSE OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOUSE FROM HAMPTON.
UH, THAT'S IT'S LITTLE HORSESHOE AREA RIGHT THERE.
OH, I, I GET YOUR POINT, HAMPTON, BUT CAN YOU, I, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID AGAIN, IT'S UM, IT'S A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT.
I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WE ARE TALKING OF JUST REASONING THIS STREET REALIGNMENT IS, IT'S A PROJECT THAT, UH, WE HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT IS WORKING ON IT AND, UH, I'M, I'M SURE THAT THEY, THEY, THEY WILL, THEY'LL MAKE THINGS WORK IN SUCH A WAY THAT, UH, YOU ARE ABLE TO, TO ACCESS YOUR, YOUR PROPERTY WITHOUT A PROBLEM.
AND THEY'LL BE, THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE WORKING WITH OUR ENGINEERING TEAM AS WELL.
THEY'RE NOT JUST GOING TO COME AND BE BARRING EVERY ROAD.
AND LIKE I SAID, UH, THAT, THAT'S ENGINEERING AND THE CONSULTANTS WHO ARE WORKING ON IT.
BUT, UH, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO THIS MORNING, AND THESE ARE THE MEETINGS THAT I THOUGHT TALKED ABOUT IS THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTIES SO THAT WE CAN START OUT THOSE, UH, NICE THINGS THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
FROM WHERE THE LETTER IS, THE ONE LANGUAGE, THE, UH, START FROM, FROM PRESENT RUN BELT TO BELT LINE.
IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT HAS TO BE ONE MILE.
SO, BUT LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, IT'S A, I THINK OUR, ON THE WEBSITE, THEY DO HAVE, UM, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE, THEY DO HAVE, UM, INFORMATION ON THE STREET REALIGNMENT AND ALL, EVERYTHING.
SO, BUT I, I THINK THE CONSULTANT AND THE, OUR ENGINEERING DIVISION, THEY'LL BE TALKING MORE ABOUT IT WHEN THAT TIME COMES, WHEN WORK BEGINS AND BEFORE IT BEGINS AND EVERYTHING.
WHAT IS THE ENGINEERS GONNA DO? LIKE A STUDY ON
SOME, SOME STUDIES HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT BECAUSE I'M NOT WELL VERSED BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR ENGINEERING AND, UH, HAFA ASSOCIATES WE HAVE WORKED ON AND ARE STILL WORKING ON.
AND I'M SURE THEY WILL LET THE, UM, RESIDENTS KNOW MORE IF, UH, THAT THE TIME IS COMES NEAR RIGHT NOW IS JUST THE REZONING OF PROPERTIES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
THERE IS, THERE IS A SECTION, SEE WHERE SAYS STREET PLAN PLAN.
SEE, THIS IS, THIS IS THE SECTION.
SO READ, GO TO THIS SECTION AND GO TO, TO THE, UH, MASTER STREETSCAPE, YOU'LL GET SOME INFORMATION AND THEN, UH, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TO, TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION, UM, FOR OUR CITY ENGINEER WHO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH OUR ASSOCIATES ON THIS TO REALLY GET YOU INTO THE WEEDS OF HOW THIS THING IS GONNA BE REDESIGNED AND ALL THAT STUFF.
BUT WE DO HAVE THAT SECTION UNDER AT THE WEBSITE FOR TON.
I WISH I WAS AN ENGINEER, BUT I'M NOT.
THE HIGHLIGHTED RED, WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT FIVE MILES? THAT AREA OR GREENWAY? IS THAT GREENWAY? GREEN GREENWAY.
WHAT SPECIFICALLY WORK? IS IT? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING THAT I YEAH, IT'S, IT'S AN ENGINEERING, YEAH.
SO SOMETHING THAT, THAT IS POSSIBLE, SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN DO.
BUT LIKE I'M SAYING, THEY GONNA HAVE THINGS OF THIS NATURE WHEN THAT TIME COMES FOR REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, THE ROAD ITSELF.
THEY WILL DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE INFORMED.
BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE FINDING ON THE WEBSITE, OKAY? YEAH.
UH, ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF
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YES.THIS I THINK, UH, THE CALENDAR LOOK LIKE AS YOU SCROLL THROUGH THERE, THAT CALENDAR OF EVENTS ALSO ON THE WEBSITE, RIGHT? THE JANUARY THERE WERE, IF IT IS NOT, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE'LL PUT IT ON.
UH, THIS PLANNING TEAM IS VERY GOOD WITHOUT DOING WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UH, ON THE, THE NON INFORMANT, HOW MANY THE NUMBER DID YOU SAY? WE 22.
SHE'S SAYING SHE CORRECTED ME 21.
AND HOW AND HOW ARE THOSE PRESENTLY? UM, UH, RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? ONE ANOTHER? YES, THERE'S THE RESIDENTIAL IS 21.
THERE'S ACTUALLY, UM, IN URBAN GENERAL THERE'S UM, 16 TO THEM.
I AM SORRY, IN, UH, URBAN CENTER THERE'S 16, I MEAN FIVE.
AND IN THE URBAN GENERAL THERE'S 16.
AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION UNDER, UM, SO YOU, HE, HE WANTED TO KNOW THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THOSE PROPERTIES.
ARE THEY NOT? NO, WE CAN, WE CAN GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION WHEN TIME COME.
UH, WE CAN GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.
I'M SORRY, BUT TRENT, YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN LOOK INTO IT, RIGHT? YES, PLEASE.
CAN YOU CHECK ON OUR WEBSITE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE CORRECT INFORMATION ON THE CURRENT ZONING OF THOSE, UH, PROPERTIES? SOMETHING ELSE I PICKED UP THAT I THINK IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT FOR RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING FROM.
LIKE, UM, I NOTICED 100 EXAMPLE SHOWED, UH, CURRENT ZONING WAS OFFICE.
BUT NOW IT'S GONNA BE, MAYBE IT WAS URBAN GENERAL OR SOMETHING.
SO I THINK IT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE CHANGING THAT TO URBAN CENTER, IT JUST INCREASES THE NUMBER OF USES.
BUT PROFESSIONAL OFFICES IS STILL A PART OF THAT.
SO PEOPLE THAT HAVE OFFICES, IT'S NOT GONNA IMPACT THEM.
WHAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DO MORE.
THEY, IT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW, HEY, NOTHING'S REALLY CHANGING.
YOU STILL KEEP YOUR BUSINESS HERE, BUT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE MORE YES, YES.
FOR ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE NONCONFORM CONFORMING, MOST OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO BE ACTUALLY MORE VALUABLE WITH THIS SONY BECAUSE THEY CAN DO MORE SOME, RIGHT NOW IT MAY HAVE JUST ONE STORY BUILDING, BUT THEY CAN BE ABLE TO GO TO FIVE STORY.
YOU STILL HAVE THEIR OFFICES ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND HAVE RESIDENTIAL ON THE UPPER FLOORS.
SO YOU ARE ACTUALLY ABLE TO DO MORE WITH YOUR PROPERTY THAN WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
WHATCHA GONNA DO ABOUT THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONES AND THE ZONING IS NOT GONNA CHANGE WHAT THEIR BUSINESS IS, BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH THAT PROPERTY.
SO, SO THOSE PROPERTIES, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO THEN SELL, THEY ACT ACTUALLY CAN SELL FOR MORE NOW WITH THIS.
SO, OR IF THEY WANT TO NOW GO AND BUILD SOMETHING ON THAT PROPERTY, THEY CAN NOW DO IT EVEN WITH, UM, HIGHER VALUE THAN IT IS HERE.
SAY IF SOMEONE IS IN THIS, I SEE IF SOMEONE IS IN THIS, UH, SAY IN THIS, ON THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE AND THERE'S NOTHING RIGHT NOW MAYBE VACANT AND IT WAS JUST SITTING THERE, MAYBE THEY'RE JUST WAITING OR WHATEVER REASON WITH THIS, UH, WITH THIS NEW ZONING THAT WE ARE PROPOSING, THEY'RE NOW ABLE TO DO MUCH MORE ON THEIR PROPERTY.
THAT MEANS IF I WAS SELLING IT FOR 200,000, I CAN BE ABLE TO SELL IT FOR 400,000 BECAUSE IT'S NOW MORE VALUABLE.
YOU CAN DO MORE ON YOUR PROPERTY THAN WHAT WAS WHAT IT, WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
BECAUSE MOST OF IT RIGHT NOW IS GENERAL RETAIL, RIGHT? YES.
SO I THINK THIS IS, I MEAN, ONE EXCITING THING ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING, IT IS GOOD FOR PROPERTY OWNERS, IT IS GOOD FOR THE CITY, IT IS GOOD FOR, FOR EVERYONE.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE SAYING, IF NOTHING, PLEASE COME AND SUPPORT THIS.
WE MAY NOT BE HERE, SOME OF ALL OF US TO ENJOY IT, BUT SURELY YOU WOULD'VE MADE A MARK TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COMES TO REALITY.
CAN I ASK YOU JUST TWO MORE QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.
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WHERE THERE WAS LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION AND I THINK, UH, URBAN GENERAL, I COULD, THEY, THEY SPOKE APARTMENTS AND TOWN HOMES.ARE THE TOWN HOMES GONNA BE RENTALS OR WHETHER THOSE BE OWNERSHIP? YOU KNOW, SO WE CANNOT SAY THAT UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY BUILDS, WE CANNOT SAY BECAUSE THESE ARE GOING TO BE, OR THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOING TO BE PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.
MAYBE IT'S GONNA BE YOU IF YOU HAVE PROPERTY IN THERE.
SO YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS GOING TO BE DETERMINING WHAT'S GO.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, UH, THE CITY WILL TOUCH UNLESS IT IS CITY PROPERTY AND THE CITY HAS DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING AND WHATEVER THE, BUT IT'S SO SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WE CANNOT TOUCH INTO.
WE CANNOT GO INTO WHAT THE CITY OR THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO DO AS LONG.
WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN FOR THAT I CAN TELL YOU FOR SURE, IS THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT IS GOING TO START BEING BUILT ALONG THIS, ALONG THIS, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE ONE MILE WITHOUT US LOOKING AT IT.
WE HAVE A SIDE PLAN PROCESS, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE HOUSE ZONED, RIGHT? EVERYTHING IS RIGHT.
WE HAVE A PROCESS WHEREBY YOU HAVE TO STILL BRING YOUR SITE PLAN, YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND YOUR ELEVATIONS.
WE WANT TO SEE THEM BEFORE YOU CAN GO TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT.
SO THERE'S NOT ONE DEVELOPMENT, JUST LIKE NOW.
THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAPPENS IN THIS CITY WITHOUT COMING THROUGH THE PLANNING, UM, DIVISION SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING, WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE SUBDIVISION OR THE CODES.
SO THAT'S ONE SURE THING THAT YOU CAN KNOW THAT NOBODY IS GONNA START JUST BUILDING POP UP OR IT HAS BEEN REZONED.
IT'S, UH, HEY, WHILE WE ARE DOING WHATEVER WE WANT, NO, WE ARE STILL GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT YES, WE REZONED YOU NOW YOU CAN DO MORE WITH YOUR PROPERTY, BUT COME, LET'S SEE WHETHER YOUR PROPERTY IS MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE REGULATIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT WAS, THAT WERE ADOPTED BY THE CITY IN MARCH CONCERNING THIS.
AND MY LAST QUESTION, UH, MR, IS, I THINK YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR PRESENTATION THERE HAD BEEN AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, PERHAPS? YES, THERE IS A STUDY THAT WAS DONE.
IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE VERY NICE TO KNOW AS A CITIZEN, UH, WHAT, WHAT THE CITY FORESEES IS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF REDEVELOPING THIS AREA AND ECONOMICALLY WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THE CITY AND THE RESIDENCE AS FAR AS HOW THAT MONEY CAN BE USED TO IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE, VARIOUS THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT WOULD, TO ME, IT WOULD SHOW THAT IN DOING THIS, THE THERE IS MORE VALUE AND UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO GROW, TO IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE, TO HAVE BETTER SERVICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GET THAT INFORMATION, BUT IF IT WAS DONE IN 2000, I CAN'T REMEMBER, UM, 2019, THAT'S THE ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT.
SO IT MAY BE SOMEWHAT OUTDATED NOW IF IT WAS DONE IN 2019, THAT PUTS ABOUT FIVE YEARS.
BUT IT SOMEHOW THEY CAN PROJECT WHAT THAT ECONOMIC, WHAT THAT VALUE COULD MEAN.
AND IT WOULD ALSO BE NICE TO KNOW HOW LONG DO YOU FORESEE THIS VISION COMING FULLY INTO EFFECT? ARE WE GONNA BE FIVE YEARS DEALING WITH CONSTRUCTION, UH, 10 YEARS DEALING WITH WE DON'T, NOBODY WANTS TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT LONG.
SO IF WE'RE SAYING WE HAVE DEVELOPERS IN PLACE, WE CAN MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN IN TWO YEARS, OR, OR THINK, I MEAN, AND YOU, YOU CAN NEVER PREDICT BECAUSE OF SUPPLY, RESOURCES, WEATHER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT TO HAVE SOME IDEA HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO, UM, DO THIS? AND THE OTHER THING THAT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT.
SORRY, MAY, MAY I ANSWER ONE? SURE, SURE.
BEFORE I FORGET BECAUSE, UH, FOR THE ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT, YES, WE GET WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, DEPARTMENT, SO THEY CAN HAVE AT LEAST DON'T WANT TO THINK THAT THEY CAN GIVE YOU LIKE THE REAL NUMBERS, BUT AT LEAST AN ESTIMATE.
AND ALSO THAT TEST THAT I TALKED ABOUT, THE, UH, TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, THAT ONE ALSO WILL TAKE, LIKE I SAID AGAIN, IF THE PROPERTY WAS VALUED, IT 2000 AND BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING NOW IT'S VALUED AT 2000, 2,500.
THAT 500 IS GONNA BE USED TO NOW CREATE THE REDESIGNS THAT WE WANT AND EVERYTHING.
SO BESIDES THE ECONOMIC, UM, STUDY, THIS, THIS, THAT TEST, IT'S REALLY THE BIG ONE BECAUSE IT'S IN PLACE RIGHT
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NOW.SO WHAT, WHENEVER A PROPERTY WITHIN THIS CORRIDOR GOES UP IN, IN TERMS OF VALUE, THE TAXES THAT HAVE INCREASED WITH THAT VALUE, THEY ARE GOING TO BE USED TO REINVE IN THE HAMPTON CORRIDOR.
SO, BUT WE'LL GET WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THEY CAN GIVE US AN ESTIMATE BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY, THEY DO HAVE THE NUMBERS.
AND THE LAST THING I WAS CURIOUS TO KNOW IS THAT LOOKING AT A PHASED APPROACH TO THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT, IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS QUARTER OF A MILE IS GONNA BE DEVELOPED FIRST AND THIS, THEN THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING AT, AT, UH, ON THIS END OF HAMPTON AND PLEASANT RUN AND THEN ON THIS END OF DEADLINE.
BUT IF IT'S, AND, AND SOMETIMES IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE LAND IS, THE, THE SPACE THAT DEVELOPER NEEDS.
BUT IF THE WHOLE MODEL ISN'T MESSED UP, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT, 'CAUSE HER CONCERN IS GETTING INTO HER PROPERTY.
SO IF THE WHOLE MODEL ISN'T MESSED UP, THEN YOU, IF IT'S PHASED APPROACH, WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP THIS QUADRANT, THIS NEXT QUADRANT, THIS QUARTER, THIS QUADRANT SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THE TRAFFIC FLOW.
IT'S, IT'S JUST A THOUGHT AS I'M LISTENING, JUST
BUT IF THERE WERE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS WONDERING BASED ON HER QUESTION WAS, I NOTICED ON HER STREET, IT LOOKS LIKE IT DEAD ENDS, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER STREET CLOSE BY.
IT'S A U IT'S A, AND BOTH OF THE ENDS OF THE YOUTH COME OUT ON HAMPTON.
THEY BOTH COME OUT ON HAMPTON.
SO THEN, THEN YOU HAVE THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
IS, IS THERE ANY ABILITY FOR THE CITY TO PUT A TEMPORARY ROAD SOMEHOW TO CONNECT THEM OUT FROM OUTSIDE OF, SO, AND I'M JUST THROWING OUT IDEAS AND THOUGHTS.
WE, WE, WE ARE, WE APPRECIATE, BUT I DON'T WANT FOR US TO GO DEEP INTO THE, UH, STREETS AND STUFF.
I WHY? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GIVE WRONG INFORMATION.
THAT IS INFORMATION THAT OUR ENGINEERING IS WORKING WITH, UH, WITH A CONSULTANT.
AND AT THAT TIME, WHEN THEY START DOING WHATEVER, THEY'RE GOING WITH ANY ROAD CONSTRUCTION HERE IN THE CITY OF DESOTA, I KNOW THEY MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS.
I KNOW THEY, SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TELL THEM EXACTLY WHEN THAT TIME COMES.
UH, BUT IN TERMS OF, UH, DOING THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT IN PHASES, YOU SAID IT WELL, THAT WE, IF WE DO THAT, WE GONNA, IT MAY BE, IT MAY HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
WHY? BECAUSE SOMEONE GETS A PROPER TO THE FAR NORTH AND THEY WANT TO DEVELOP IT AND IT'S MEETING OUR, WE, WE, WE, WE, WE CANNOT STOP THEM BECAUSE IT'S IN PHASE THREE AND PHASE ONE HAS NOT BEEN DONE AT SOME POINT.
EVERYTHING THEY DEVELOP HERE, THEY DEVELOP HERE, THEY DEVELOP, IT'S GONNA COME TOGETHER AND ONCE ONE START DEVELOPING THE OTHER ONE START WHO COME ON.
AND THIS ONE COMES ON AT SOME POINT TO JOIN TOGETHER.
SO I DON'T, WE ARE NOT THIS, AT LEAST SO FAR, THERE'S NO PHASING THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT BECAUSE CITY OWNED SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE DEVELOPERS ARE LOOKING AT AND SOME OF THE PROPERTIES, THE, THE DEVELOPERS ARE THE ONES THAT WILL BE DOING IT.
SO IT'LL BE VERY DIFFICULT AND IT'LL ACTUALLY BE TO OUR DISADVANTAGE TO TRY AND BOTTLE THEM TO SAY, NO, YOU'RE IN PHASE ONE.
SO THAT WILL NOT BE THE BEST FOR US.
WE JUST WANT, AS LONG AS THEY'RE WITHIN THE AREA THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND THEY'RE DOING WHAT THE DREAM AND THE HOPE FOR THIS AREA IS, THEY ARE WELCOME AT ANY TIME.
THANK YOU FOR ASKING MY QUESTIONS.
LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, UH, IF YOU CAN SEND ME AN EMAIL, I WILL BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE IT.
WHATEVER OTHER INFORMATION WE CAN FIND RIGHT NOW WHEN WE DO THE OTHER MEETINGS, WE'LL TRY ALSO TO, TO BRING THAT OUT.
ANY OTHER QUESTION? MR. JEFF, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES.
AND I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE.
MAY HAVE PROGRESSED THIS ALREADY.
IS THERE A COMPLETION DATE IN MIND FOR THE PROJECT? YES.
WELL, WE DON'T, I WISH WE COULD, BUT WE DON'T.
BUT WHAT I KNOW IS THAT AT LEAST THERE ARE SOME PERSPECTIVE DEVELOPERS RIGHT NOW, BUT FOR US TO BE ABLE, THAT IS IF YOU ALL THAT ARE HERE, YOU WILL PURCHASE SOME PROPERTIES AND YOU TELL US THAT NEXT YEAR YOU START DIGGING, YES, WE MAY PREDICTED IT, BUT BECAUSE, UH, IT'S NOT EVERY PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY THAT THE CITY'S ABLE TO SAY, WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS FROM HERE, FROM HERE, FROM HERE.
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PRIVATE, UH, PROPERTIES, YES, WE DO HAVE SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE OWNED BY THE CITY, BUT THAT ALSO IS SOME DEVELOPERS WHO MAY WANT TO PUT CERTAIN THINGS TOGETHER FIRST.SO WE CANNOT SAY TODAY, TOMORROW, BUT AT LEAST THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE DO HAVE SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE E EM MAGED RIGHT NOW FOR SOME DEVELOPMENTS.
AND YOU HAD MENTIONED THE IMPACT OF THE AREA THAT YOU'RE TARGETING HERE.
WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF RESIDENTS MAY NOT LIVE TO HAMPTON? WHAT TYPE OF IMPACT WILL THIS HAVE ON THE BEER? WELL, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE, THE IMPACT THAT IT WILL HAVE ON ANYONE, EVEN PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF DESOTO, IS THAT THERE IS A PLACE IN DESOTO WHERE THEY CAN COME AND HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE RESTAURANTS, IT'LL BE STORES, IT'LL BE, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE AREAS, THE HEART OF THIS WILL BE MIXED USE WHERE WE HAVE COMMERCIAL ON THE, ON THE, ON THE LAW, ON THE GROUND FLOOR, THEN OFFICES, THEN RESIDENTIAL.
SO THEY, IT'LL, IT'S CREATING A PLACE, A THIRD PLACE.
LIKE I NAMED IT THAT IF I'M NOT AT WORK, IF I'M NOT AT HOME, THAT'S THE PLACE THAT I WANNA BE A PLACE TO HANG OUT.
THE PLACES THAT WE HAD WHEN WE WERE DOING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING FROM, FROM FROM THE CITY, THEY'RE GOING TO THE NORTH, THEY'RE GOING TO WAXAHACHIE, THEY'RE GOING TO CEDAR HILL, THEY'RE GOING ALL OVER TO FIND THESE THIRD PLACES.
BUT WE ARE CREATING A THIRD PLACE THAT, UH, WE HOPE THAT IS RESIDENTS ALL OVER IN DESOTO, LANCASTER, CEDAR.
THEY WILL HAVE THIS PLACE THAT, UH, IS IN DESOTO THAT THEY WANT TO COME AND JUST HANG OUT, SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS, BOUTIQUE SHOPS, YOU NAME IT.
THOSE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING OUT THERE TO BUY OR TO BE, THOSE ARE THE PLACES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE HERE.
I RECALL WHEN BEFORE THEY CREATED THIS TOWN CENTER, THIS AREA, CITY, THEY USED SOME SIMILAR LANGUAGE THAT IT WOULD BE A DRAW.
AND SO I'M WONDERING, JUST ON A SMALLER SCALE, HAS THIS AREA THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN LIVED UP TO ITS EXPECTATIONS AND EXCEEDED EXPECTATION TO GIVE THE IDEA THAT THIS HAMPTON ROAD PROJECT, WHICH IS MUCH LARGER, BUT WITH A SIMILAR SCALE, IT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.
HAS THIS AREA RIGHT HERE THAT WE'RE IN, MET AND EXCEEDED ITS EXPECTATIONS IN TERMS OF DRAWING PEOPLE AND BEING A CENTER FOR DESOTO RESIDENT OUTSIDE? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND UM, I WOULD NOT WANT TO SAY EXCEED, I WOULD NOT WANT TO SAY THAT, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN SEE SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME MOVEMENTS SAY THE SHOPPING CENTER ACROSS THE STREET HERE AND THIS, THESE APARTMENTS AND SOME, WE, WE SEE BUSINESS GOING.
BUT TO SAY, FOR ME TO SAY IT'S EXCEEDED, I WOULD WANT TO, THAT I WOULD WANT TO ASK PEOPLE FROM OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
BUT WE DO HAVE A VISION THAT NOT ONLY DO WE WANT JUST THIS AREA RIGHT NOW, ACTUALLY THIS AREA IS NOT INCLUDED.
IT'S OUT OF THE, UH, THE IT'S PART, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WITHIN THE AREA THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, BUT WE, WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER PROPERTIES TOO.
SO IT, IT IS, WE ARE STILL HOPING THAT IT'LL TAKE OFF AND SURE ENOUGH, IT'LL TAKE OFF.
LIKE I SAID AGAIN, UM, HAVING BEEN A, A PROFESSIONAL PLANNER FOR A LONG TIME IN DIFFERENT CITIES, I HAVE SEEN PROJECTS.
I WAS GIVING AN EXAMPLE BEFORE YOU WALKED IN, UH, OF, UH, THE CITY OF GAND WHERE THEY HAVE, UH, THE GAND SQUARE.
THEY SAID, UH, IT STARTED AROUND MAYBE 2002 AND UH, THEY WERE JUST DOING DIFFERENT THINGS, DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND IT HAD NOT COME TO FRUITION UNTIL SOMETIME IN THE, SOMETIME IN THE TWENTIES AND NOW IT'S ALMOST DONE.
SO PROJECTS CAN TAKE LONG PROJECTS CAN TAKE PLANNING PROJECTS.
I MEAN SOME OF THEM THEY TAKE LONG.
BUT IF THERE IS A VISION, IF THERE IS A, THE HOPE AND THE FAITH THAT IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE SO FROM OTHER CITIES THAT I'VE WORKED AND PROJECTS THAT I HAVE BEEN PART OF, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS WORKING FOR THE CITY OF PLANO THAT, UH, NOW WHAT THEY CALL THE SHOP SET LEGACY, THAT WAS A FARM UNTIL THIS GUY CAME.
THIS GUY, HE HAS A THICK ACCENT THAN MYSELF, BUT HE CAME WITH THIS VISION AND WAS SEEING SOMETHING THAT NOBODY ELSE WAS SEEING.
AND NOW EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT THE SHOPS AT LEGACY.
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THIS IS THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE RESIDENTS OF DISORDER TO SAY YES, IT MIGHT FEEL LIKE, AH, WE DON'T SEE IT, WE DON'T, BUT IF YOU ALL ARE IN SUPPORT AND JUST THE SUPPORT TO SAY, YES, LET'S GET STARTED, LET'S GET GOING.AT SOME POINT IT MAY BE TWO YEARS DOWN THE LINE, BUT EVEN WITH THE TWO YEARS, WE MAY START JUST SEEING, YOU KNOW, BUILDINGS HERE AND THERE COMING UP.
AND THIS IS THE BE I MEAN THE BEGINNING OF WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, THE REASONING OF THE PROPERTIES SO THAT THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THOSE PROSPECTIVE BUYERS CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE FAITH WITHOUT THE REASONING.
THE DEVELOPERS ARE TELLING US THAT, AH, YOU HAVEN'T EVEN DONE ANYTHING.
HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO COME? I DON'T WANT TO BE BOTHERED WITH HAVING TO DO THE NING AND STUFF, HAVE YOU ZONING IN PLACE SO I CAN START COMING WITH MY SIDE PLANS AND EVERYTHING.
AND I START GOING, SO THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO SAY.
LET'S PUT UM, THINGS IN PLACE THAT NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW FOR IT TO BE A REALITY.
IT CANNOT BE WITHOUT THE REASONING.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AND WE ARE HOPING THAT AH, NOT ONLY ARE WE EXPECTING PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE TO DO THIS, IT TAKES PEOPLE ALSO THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY TO SAY, HERE, I'M GOING TO BE PART AND PARCEL OF THIS WINNING TEAM.
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YEAH, I'M PART OF THIS, THIS IS MY PROPERTY WITH THIS, WITH THIS.
YOU SEE PEOPLE SITTING OUTSIDE WITH A NICE RESTAURANT ON YOUR PROPERTY AND IT PUTS A SMILE ON YOUR FACE.
SO DESIRE NOT TO JUST SEE OTHER PEOPLE DOING IT.
YOU CAN BE ABLE TO DO IT, YOU CAN BE PART OF THIS.
IF NOTHING TO JUST SUPPORT THOSE WHO BE DOING IT.
THAT'S, THAT'S ALL THAT WE CAN ALL DO.
JUST THE SAME WAY THAT WE AS UH, EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY, WE ARE TRYING TO REALLY TO MAKE YOU SEED, TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE IT BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN DONE IN OTHERS CITIES.
YOU HEAR THAT IT WAS NOT ONE YEAR, IT WAS NOT TWO YEARS.
IT TOOK SOME TIME, BUT IT JUST HAS TO HAVE THE VISION TO SEED AND THEN IT'LL COME TO PASS.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2005, IF I REMEMBER THE TIMELINE YOU PUT UP EARLIER.
HOW MANY MORE YEARS? AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN TIME.
SO I DUNNO HOW MANY MORE YEARS TAKE? SO 2005 NOW WE WE'RE 20 YEARS IN.
SO, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, THAT THESE WERE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WERE DONE, WHICH ARE GOOD.
THESE ARE THE, WE NEED THIS IN OUR, IN OUR, IN OUR TOOLBOX.
SO NOW THE, ONE OF THE MAJOR TOOLS THAT IS MISSING FOR THIS TO TAKE PLACE IS THE REASONING OF THE PROPERTIES.
BECAUSE WHEN IT'S REZONED, NOW IT'S READY TO BE DEVELOPED.
IT'S READY FOR A DEVELOPER TO COME WITH THEIR SIDE PLAN OR THAT WE REQUIRE SO THAT THEY CAN START DIGGING.
SO THE REASONING, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, OF THOSE PROPERTIES IS THAT TOOL THAT IS MISSING IN OUR TOOLBOX.
SO WE CAN START DOING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
HE, IT CAN HAPPEN, RIGHT? BUT SOMETIMES FAITH REQUIRES SEEING, AND SO I I SEE TIMELINE IT CAN'T, DOES THIS SORT ASK ASKED, CLOSED IN QUESTION, DOES DE SOTO HAVE THE DEMOGRAPHICS AT THIS TIME TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT THAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS MAY CHANGE BY THE TIME THE EFFORT IS COMPLET? SO, SO I WOULD NOT WANT TO SAY, I MEAN, DEMOGRAPHICS, YES, WE DO.
BECAUSE WITH ALMOST NOW 59,000 PEOPLE, PLEASE, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY HIGH POPULATION COMPARED TO A LOT OF OTHER CITIES THAT ARE LESS POPULATION THAN US.
BECAUSE CU IS, I MEAN, SMALLER THAN, UH, DISORDER.
BUT LOOK AT SOME THINGS THAT ARE IN YOU.
SO YES, WE DO HAVE THE DEMOGRAPHIC.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT, UH, SO FAR WE HAVE JUST SAW THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THOSE OTHER PLACES, WHICH, WHICH ARE SMALLER THAN US TO SUPPORT THEM AND THEY'RE DOING WELL.
SO NOW THIS THING IS SAYING, NO, LET'S PULL THAT SUM OF THAT.
AND UNLESS WE DO HAVE THE DEMOGRAPHICS, BECAUSE OTHER SMALLER CITIES HAVE DONE A LOT OF THESE THINGS, BUT WITHOUT THE POPULATION AND, AND FEEDING FROM THOSE OTHER CITIES.
SO WHY WE WANT TAKE THE TIME TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE SO WE CAN START PULLING PEOPLE IN FEST AND ALL THESE OTHER CITIES TO COME HERE.
AND IF YOU CANNOT SEE IT, AT LEAST SOME OF THESE PICTURES, CAN YOU SEE IT? YES.
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WELL, I WAS REALLY ASKING IN TERMS OF AGE.OH, LIKE SOME, SOME PEOPLE MAY AGE OUT BY THE TIME COMPLETION.
AND THEN ARE YOU ANTICIPATING YOUNGER? YES.
AND WHERE THAT COMES EVEN HANDY IS THAT, UH, WITH THIS, WE ARE CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT THAT A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR.
A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE, THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO BE DRIVING, I MEAN, VERY FAR AWAY.
THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO LIVE UPSTAIRS AND WORK DOWNSTAIRS.
SO WE ARE ACTUALLY CREATING A DESTINATION AREA FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.
SO OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, WHEN THEY'RE FINISHED WITH COLLEGE, AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THEM NOW, THEY, THEY WORK FROM HOME.
SO THIS WILL ACTUALLY CAPTURE THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE LIKELY TO LOSE.
AND WE ARE HAD A LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE SAYING, I WANT ME A PLACE WHERE I DON'T HAVE TO MOW A YARD WHERE I CAN LIVE UPSTAIRS AND BE ABLE TO GO GET A CUP OF, UH, COFFEE DOWNSTAIRS.
SO WE ARE HEARING NOT JUST FROM THE, I MEAN FROM, FROM THE ALL ELDERLY PEOPLE, WE ARE ALSO HEARING, I MEAN, SEEING THE TRENDS THAT ARE HAPPENING ABOUT YOUNG PEOPLE.
SO WE ARE ACTUALLY NOT CREATING THIS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING, OH NO, WE'LL NOT BE HERE WHEN THIS, NO, WE ARE CREATING THIS FOR THE FUTURE FOR EVEN THOSE PEOPLE.
BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME ELDERLY PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY ACTIVE AND LOVE TO BE IN AN ENVIRONMENT.
I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE FROM DALLAS, HE SAYS, NO, THEY EVEN AS LIKE ELDERLY PEOPLE, THEY LOVE THE ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY, IT'S VIBRANT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN, GOING OUT, AND THEY JUST LOVE IT.
THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL LIFE AND INTERACT WITH PEOPLE AND THEY LOVE, I MEAN, MIXED USES LIKE THIS.
SO IT'S NO LONGER, WE ARE NO LONGER AT A TIME WHERE YOU JUST HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE ONLY WHO WANT, YOU KNOW, LIVE, WORK AND PLAY AREAS.
WE DO HAVE SO HAVE A LOT OF ACTUALLY ELDERLY PEOPLE WHO LOVE LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE.
SO WE ARE CAPTURING BOTH SIDES, WHETHER OLDER, MIDDLE, OR YOUNG.
BUT WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE UNTIL SOMETHING IS DONE, WE CAN NEVER KNOW THE POTENTIAL.
WE CAN NEVER KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO THIS IN THIS SORT TO HIS POINT AND ASKING KIND OF A LONG WAY.
AND MR. BERRY HAD SAID SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR THIS YEAR, UNDERSTANDING THE WHY BEHIND.
NOW, IF IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS THAT THIS HAS BEEN PROPOSED, WHY, WHY IS IT NOW? I I WOULD NOT WANT TO SAY I'M SORRY, FINISH.
WHY NOW? UNDERSTAND THE WHY NOW, LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THAT IT WAS, UH, THIS WHOLE PROJECT HAS BEEN POSED.
IT HAS NOT BEEN POSED BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE FROM, WELL, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT S FOUR Y BUT I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE TIMELINE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PROGRESSION 2005, 2015, 2019, 22, 22, 22, 24, 24.
SO IT HAS NOT BEEN LIKE SOMETHING THAT WAS THOUGHT OF AND JUST PUT ASIDE.
BUT IT IS BECAUSE OF THINGS LIKE THIS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND THEN IF WE DON'T GET THE SUPPORT THAT IS NEEDED, THEN OF COURSE IT'S GONNA MAKE IT SIT AGAIN.
AND UNTIL MAYBE ANOTHER PERSON OR ANOTHER COUNCIL SAYS WE NEED TO, I MEAN, DO THIS.
SO WE, WE, IT HAS NOT BEEN PAUSE.
AND UH, WITH THIS REZONING, IT PUTS EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE, IN PLACE FOR IT TO GET STARTED TO GET GOING.
BUT THERE, THERE HAS BEEN LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A TIMELINE WHEN THINGS HAVE BEEN HAPPENING AND NEED TO, TO, TO, TO HAPPEN.
SO WE ARE DURING THAT TIME WHEN WE WANT TO PUT THE ZONING ITSELF IN PLACE SO THAT ALL THIS THAT WAS DONE BEFORE CAN START HAPPENING.
SO WHEN ARE WE LOOKING AT PUTTING THE ZONING IN PLACE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO GO TO A CITY CLUB? YES.
THAT'S THE TIMELINE THAT I GAVE YOU WITH THE TASK SCHEDULE.
THIS SUPPOSED TO GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING ON THE 28TH AND THEN CITY COUNCIL OF FEBRUARY 18TH.
AND ONCE IT'S IN PLACE AND INSIDE A DEVELOPER COMES, WE'LL BE ABLE TO START LOOKING AT, SO FEBRUARY 18TH WE CAN APPROVE THE
IF THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE RESIDENT AND STAKEHOLDERS, YES, WE CAN HAVE THE ZONING IN PLACE AND WE HOPEFULLY START SEEING THINGS HAPPENING.
I'VE BEEN WITH, UH, MY CITY MANAGER, CHARLESBURG, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES,
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UM, MR. AVOW, THE QUESTION THAT I HEARD WHEN I JUST WALK IN, WHY NOW I CAN SAY WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS BECAUSE OF THE 2022 ACTION BY THE COUNCIL IN APRIL OR MARCH, WHEN THEY AWARDED TWO CONTRACTS TO HALF AN ASSOCIATES, ONE FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE ROADWAY ITSELF AND ONE TO CREATE THE, UM, HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODES.THAT IS WHAT NOW HAS TAKEN TWO YEARS.
AND ONCE THOSE CODES GOT ADOPTED IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, THAT NEXT STEP TAKEN BY THE COUNCIL WAS TO ORDER THE REZONING, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN THE NEXT PROCESS AGAIN.
AND I'M SURE MY STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED TO YOU THE ORIGINAL BOUNDARY MIRRORED THIS TURDS, UH, TAX, UH, UH, INCRE INCREMENT TAX INCREMENT, REINVESTMENT, REINVESTMENT ZONE THAT DEFINED BECAME THE BORDER OF THE VISION FOR THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE ZONING REGULATIONS.
SO WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH THE FIRST PROCESS, WHICH WAS EARLIER THIS YEAR, AND THE DECISION WAS TO MAKE, TO NOT PROCEED FORWARD, TO ALLOW IT TO BE REMANDED BACK TO THE P AND Z FOR MORE WORK, MORE COMMUNITY INPUT.
WE EVEN HAVE AN ISSUE THAT WE EVEN HAD AN ISSUE BECAUSE OF STATE LAW THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR THAT WE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT BY STAFF WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS FIRST PROCESS THAT WE NEEDED TO NOTIFY ANY PROPERTY OWNER THAT POTENTIALLY PROPERTY WAS, COULD BE CONVERTED BECAUSE OF THE ZONING ACTION.
THEIR PROPERTY WAS GOING TO BE CHANGED FROM A CONFORMING STATUS TO A NON-CONFORMING STATUS.
AND WE HADN'T DONE THAT PRIOR TO GOING PNZ.
A STEP BACK NEEDED TO HAVE BEEN MADE FROM THE TIME THAT THE COUNCIL DECIDE NOT TO PROCEED FOR, BUT TO REMAND IT BACK TO THE CPNZ AND ADDITIONAL MEETINGS WITH THE CONSULTANTS IN JOINT MEETINGS WITH THE P-N-Z-P-N-Z CITY COUNCIL, PNZ AND DDC CAME UP WITH A VISION.
LET'S REDUCE THIS FIRST VISION ATTEMPT TO A SMALLER BOUNDARY TO REALLY JUST BOARD A HAMPTON ROAD AND THAT AREAS OF PLEASANT RUN AND BELTLINE.
AND WE WENT TO THE COUNCIL IN, UH, NOVEMBER AND THEY GAVE US A GENERAL CONSISTENCY TO NOW PROCEED FORWARD WITH THAT PLAN.
THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE, WHERE WE ARE HERE NOW.
BUT THE ACTION BY THE COUNCIL IN 2022 THAT AWARDED THOSE PROJECTS THAT HAD THAT CONSULTANT TO COMPLETE THE REGULATIONS FOR THE COUN P AND CN COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THOSE REGULATIONS AND GET 'EM ADOPTED.
NOW THAT THE REGULATIONS ARE IN THE BACK OF THE ZONING BOOK AND READY TO BE IMPLEMENTED, THAT NEXT STEP ALLOWED THE CITY TO SAY, LET'S PROCEED ON.
SO THAT'S WHY NOW, BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS ULTIMATELY TRIGGERED BY THE 2022 ACTION OF AWARDING THAT THE, THESE TWO PROJECTS.
SO FROM WHAT YOU SAID, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE FIRST THING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE PROJECT IS THAT THE ROAD GETS RESTRUCTURED.
NO KNOW AGAIN, AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE.
I WASN'T HERE AT ALL AT THE BEGINNING.
THAT RE ROAD RECONSTRUCTION IS STILL A LONG WAY AWAY.
THE REALITY OF IT, THE CITY HAS COMMITTED ITSELF TO OTHER MASS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WITH DALLAS COUNTY.
UH, THE CITY THROUGH A 2017 CALL FOR PROJECTS WITH DALLAS COUNTY GOT APPROVED DANIELDALE RECONSTRUCTION AND WIDENING FROM JUST EAST OF COCH, JUST EAST OF WEST MOLAND WEST, ALL THE WAY NEAR COCH.
HILL CITY IS ALSO COMMITTED, UH, WITH DALLAS COUNTY TO DO THE RECONSTRUCTION OF WEST MO SOUTHWEST MOLAND FROM BELTLINE, SOUTH PASS, EAGLE DRIVE TO PARKVILLE CITY HAS ALSO COMMITTED, UH, REQUESTED THE RECONSTRUCTION OF PLEASANT RUN FROM COCH HILL TO WESTMORELAND.
THOSE ARE THREE MAJOR PROJECTS, THE WESTMORELAND AND THE PLEASANT RUN.
THOSE PLANS RIGHT NOW ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLETED.
THE REASON THEY ARE NOT PROCEEDING FARTHER IS FUNDING TO DO THESE MAJOR CAPITALIST PROJECTS.
IT'S GONNA TAKE MONIES AND THE, IT'S NOT MONIES THAT'S GONNA COME FROM TAXPAYERS DOLLARS.
IT HAS TO BE BONDED BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
NOW, WHILE THE CITY DOES HAVE A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL VISION PLAN, THAT PLAN CAN CHANGE DURING
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ANY OF THOSE YEARS.A NEW CAPITAL PROJECT THAT HAS COME IN THAT HAS TRULY NOW AFFECTED STREET PROJECTS IS THE AQUATIC CENTER.
THE AQUATIC AND RECREATIONAL CENTER COUNCIL HAS APPROVED THAT THAT CONTRACT HAS BEEN AWARDED.
IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
IT'S GOT AWARDED TO THE CONTRACTOR AS A $43 MILLION PROJECT ANTICIPATION OF, OF FITTINGS AND EQUIPMENT.
EVERYTHING INTERNALLY IS ANOTHER 10 MILLION.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A $53 MILLION PROJECT THAT HAS NOW BECOME PART OF PRIORITY LIST.
AND IF YOU ONLY HAVE SO MUCH BONDING CAPACITY FOR EACH YEAR, YOU HAVE TO TAKE SOMETHING OFF AND CHANGE OVER.
SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THE LAST BOND THAT THE CITY WENT OUT TO, WHICH WAS THIS PAST AUGUST, THEY HAD A BONDING CAPACITY ABOUT 50 MILLION.
DON'T QUOTE ME ON THE EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT LET'S SUBTRACT GOING UP.
FIRST 10 MILLIONS WAS A IDENTIFIED, THERE'S GONNA BE NEED FOR WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
THE NEXT 23 MILLION WAS GONNA BE ASSOCIATED WITH AQUATIC CENTER SINCE THAT IS WAS GONNA BE DEEMED AS A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEAR PROJECT.
THUS THEY'LL GET HALF OF THAT A PORTION, MAJORITY OF THAT IN THIS BOND NEXT BOND.
ANOTHER ONE YOU STILL GO UP, DANIEL DALE, WHICH IS ALSO MOVING FORWARD, IS A $21 MILLION PROJECT.
OF THE THREE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT I MENTIONED WITH DALLAS COUNTY.
DALLAS COUNTY HAVE DIFFERENT FINANCIAL AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY.
THE DANIELDALE PROJECT, UH, THE AGREEMENT HAD BEEN, IT WAS GONNA BE A 50 50 PROJECT ON EVERYTHING DEALING WITH THE ROADWAY, UH, THE BRIDGE AREA, THE STREETLIGHT, NOT THE UTILITIES, UNDERGROUNDS OR ANY, OR LANDSCAPING.
SO WE ANTICIPATE 3 MILLION BEING FOR THOSE CITY A HUNDRED PERCENT RESPONSIBLE.
SO LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE AN $18 MILLION OPINION OF PROBABLE CAUSE FOR THAT PROJECT, WE'RE ANTICIPATING 50 50 BE 9 MILLION A PIECE.
SO IN THIS BOND THAT WE JUST WENT OUT AND COMPLETED THE CITY DELEGATED 9 MILLION FOR THE DANIELDALE, THERE'S NOTHING FOR PLEASANT RUN, NOTHING FOR WESTMORELAND, BECAUSE BOTTOM LINE, YOU ONLY HAVE SO MUCH BONDING CAPACITY.
SO WE HAVE TRULY NEXT YEAR'S BOND IS GONNA HAVE PROBABLY THE OTHER PORTION DEALING WITH THE AQUATIC CENTER.
AND A DECISION WILL HAVE TO BE MADE OF WHICH CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE DONE.
NOW, REALISTICALLY, TRYING TO PULL IN THE HAMPTON ROAD PROJECT, I'M NOT SURE IT'S FEASIBLE AT THIS POINT.
I'M NOT THE CITY'S FINANCE DIRECTOR.
I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT PLAN, BUT I STILL KNOW IF THERE'S SOME OTHER COMMITMENTS THAT I HAVE HEARD OR COMMITMENTS THAT THE CITY GONNA FOLLOW THROUGH NEXT YEAR IS NOT GONNA BE A CONSTRUCTION STARTING OF THAT PROJECT.
SO THIS ZONING ELEMENT IS THAT FIRST, UH, I'M AM HEARING FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT THAT THEY ARE HAVING SOME DIALOGUES WITH SOME, UH, DEVELOPERS THAT ARE SAYING, WE NEED TO SEE THAT THE CITY IS SERIOUS IN DOING THIS.
AND TO SHOW THEM THAT THAT'S WHY THIS FIRST PHASE HAS BEEN REDUCED TO TARGET HAMPTON ROAD ITSELF.
HOPE I DIDN'T TAKE IT TOO LONG ABOUT AWAY, BUT IT'S, IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS FOR 10 YEARS.
AND I CAN ALSO SAY, I KNOW A QUESTION MAY BE OUT, WELL, WHEN IS THE NEXT ROUND? THAT DECISION HASN'T BEEN MADE, IT HASN'T BEEN MADE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, WHO CAN CHANGE PROPERTY REZONING THE PROPERTY OWNER THEMSELVES, CITY COUNCIL ON THEIR INITIATION AND ORDERING OF IT, OR THE P AND Z ON THEIR INITIATION.
SO IT'S TO TAKE ONE OF THOSE THREE TO SAY, LET'S GO WITH THE NEXT PHASE, THE DECISION OF IS THE NEXT PHASE GONNA HAPPEN WITH WHERE THE CITY IS BEARING A HUNDRED PERCENT COST? THAT HAS NOT BEEN MADE.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET OVER THIS FIRST HURDLE, WHICH WE'VE GOT OUR TO STUMP WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE FIRST PROCESS, UH, YOU KNOW, EARLIER, UH, DURING THE SUMMER.
MR, THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
IT REALLY, THAT WAS REALLY GOOD.
MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THE HAMPTON ORDER DEVELOPERS COULD START DEVELOPING IT BEFORE THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION CHANGE? YES.
THE RECONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING DESIGN IS NOT FORECASTING TO TAKE RIGHT OF WAY.
THE RIGHT OF WAY IS GOING TO BE WHERE IT IS.
SO THE CITY IS, THE VISION IS, IS GOING TO TAKE TWO LANES IN BOTH DIRECTION TO CREATE ONE LANE IN BOTH DIRECTION.
THERE ARE, I THINK THREE SECTIONS OF THAT ROADWAY.
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UH, LANES GOING IN BOTH DIRECTION WITH A CENTER TURN LANE.ONE SECTION MAY HAVE IT IN BOTH DIRECTIONS WITH A LANDSCAPED AREA, BUT IT'S CREATING A MORE SAFER PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AREA THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.
SO A PART OF THE HAMPTON CODES ALLOWS A POTENTIAL DEVELOPER TO BUILD CLOSER TO THE RIGHT OF WAY CURRENT REGULATIONS.
DEPENDING ON YOUR ZONING DISTRICT, YOU MAY HAVE A A, IF IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL AREA, YOU'D HAVE A 25 FOOT SETBACK.
COMMERCIAL AREA MAY HAVE A 50 FOOT SETBACK, BUT THE REGULATIONS THEMSELVES ARE ALLOWING BUILDINGS TO COME CLOSER, ALLOWING THE PARKING TO BE ON THE OUTER PART, NOT THE OLD TRADITIONAL WAY WHERE YOU SEE PARKING OUT FRONT.
SO THOSE REGULATIONS CAN BE DEVELOPED WITH THE CODES THAT ARE IN PLACE AT THIS POINT, EVEN WITH THE ROAD NOT BEING RECONSTRUCTED.
SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE YOU CAME IN, AND I'LL JUST THROW IT AT YOU, YOU CAN GET SOME THOUGHT, BUT WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT DEMOGRAPHICALLY.
I, I KNOW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS TALKED ABOUT, UH, DEMOGRAPHICALLY HOW THEY SEE, UH, DESOTO CHANGING AS FAR AS THE URBAN PROFESSIONALS AND VARIOUS THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, IT MAY BE GOOD TO KNOW ALSO DEMOGRAPHICALLY WHERE WE SIT NOW AS FAR AS AGE, UH, THE AGE OF, UH, THE RESIDENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND WHAT YOU ALSO PREDICT WITH THE CHANGE, THE DRAW, UH, OF, AND I THINK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IF I REMEMBER THEY KIND OF TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NEED.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS ALSO THINKING ABOUT, AS YOU ALL WERE GOING THROUGH, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE GROWTH OF THE CITY, UH, GOING UP TO LIKE 80 SOME THOUSAND, UH, RESIDENTS, UH, BY 28TH TO 2045.
I CANNOT REMEMBER IF THE DATES ARE EXACTLY, BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT AS RESIDENTS, WE UNDERSTAND THAT DESOTO IS NOT STAGNANT.
DESOTO IS CONTINUING TO GROW, AND IF THERE'S A POOL FOR THE URBAN PROFESSIONALS, HOW THE URBAN SITS AND THE THE THIRD VARIOUS RESIDENTIAL PORTIONS IS GOING TO HELP US BE BRAVE FOR THE GROWTH THAT THE CITY IS GONNA HAVE IN THOSE 20 YEARS.
SO IF SOMEHOW THAT, THAT INFORMATION CAN BE BROUGHT UP, WHAT OUR ANTICIPATED NEEDS ARE AS FAR AS HOUSING AND HOW THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT IS FEEDING INTO BEING PREPARED AND HAVING THE HOUSING THAT THE CITY IS GONNA NEED IN 2045.
AND THERE ARE PROJECTIONS TO BE FUTURE JOINT MEETINGS BETWEEN THE CITY COUNCIL, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE, UH, DESOTO DEVELOPMENT COOPERATION, DDC, WHO WORKS WITH OUR EDC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, DIVISION.
SO THOSE THINGS DO NEED TO BE KIND OF BROUGHT UP TO JUST BE HIGHLIGHTED.
BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY WHAT YOU JUST BROUGHT UP MORE IN THE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIVISIONAL, UH, AREA THAN OURS.
AND I, AND LET ME JUST TELL YOU WHAT MY THINKING IS.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS JUST NOT A PROJECT.
THIS IS A PROJECT BECAUSE THE CITY NEEDS THESE THINGS HERE TO SURVIVE AND, AND TO CONTINUE TO GROW.
SO I WOULD, AS I'M SITTING HERE AND I'M THINKING AS YOU HEAR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT REALLY MIGHT BE NICE IF EDC CAN BE HERE AND PROVIDE SOME INSIGHTS AS WELL AS HOW CHANGING THE ZONING.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS NOT JUST, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE NOT JUST CHANGING ZONING TO BE CHANGING THE ZONING.
WE'RE CHANGING ZONING TO KIND OF MEET THE NEEDS OF OF THE CITY.
UH, AND THEN ALSO WE TALK ABOUT, UH, MS. STER REALLY TALKED ABOUT THE LIFE, THE, THE PLAY, THE LIVE, THE WORK, THE PLAY.
AND OFTEN RESIDENTS COME IN AND THEY TALK ABOUT, WE, WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER CHICKEN PLACE.
WE DON'T MOVE ON ANOTHER THIS, HOW DOES THIS HAMPTON CORRIDOR DEVELOPMENT FIT IN TO GETTING THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT RESIDENTS KEEP COMING IN AND SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.
WELL, THOSE BUSINESSES, THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT WE WANT, DON'T JUST WANT TO BE STUCK ON A CORNER BY
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AN AUTO DEVELOPMENT STORE.I MEAN, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THEY WANT BE IN AN AREA THAT THE
HOW DOES THAT FIT IN TO ALSO PULLING IN THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT CITIZENS KEEP COMING IN AND SAYING, WE WANT THESE TYPES OF BUSINESS.
AND, AND THEN WE CAN JUST SOME INSIGHTS ON THAT ALSO PROBABLY BE GOOD AND HELP, UH, RESIDENTS ALSO UNDERSTAND WE'RE DOING, WE'RE LISTENING TO YOU IN ORDER TO GET THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HAVE YOU DONE THE INTERACTIVE YET? MM-HMM.
LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF TALKING THIS MORNING,
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.
IF WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO GET ADDRESSED, THE PROPERTY THAT YOU REALLY WANT US TO LOOK AT, WE ARE HERE TO, TO HELP YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION.
UM, JANUARY 11, JANUARY 16, EITHER IN THE MORNING OR IN THE EVENING.
WE NEED TO HEAR MORE FROM YOU AND YOU NEED TO GET INFORMATION FROM US.
UH, LIKE IS, YOU KNOW, IDEAS ARE COMING UP.
SO MUCH SO THAT WE TOO, EVEN A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION NEXT TIME, NOW THAT WE ARE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL.
SO LIKE HE'S TALKING ABOUT, WE MAY NEED TO ASK SOMEONE FROM OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO COME AND JUST GIVE THEIR PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
LET'S SPREAD THE WORD TO COME TO THESE MEETINGS.
WE NEED TO GET HAMPTON PROJECT A REALITY AND IT TAKES YOU AND US WORKING TOGETHER.
SO DON'T FEEL LIKE WE ARE PUSHING YOU OUT.
WE ARE HERE INDIVIDUAL ATTENTION.
IF YOU NEED US TO GIVE YOU TIME, WE ARE HERE.
THANK YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.