[Hampton Road Project Community Meeting On December 14, 2024]
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THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE, UH, REDUCED BOUNDARY PUBLIC MEETING.
UH, MY NAME IS TRENT CURL UNDER THE PLANNING AND ZONING TECHNICIAN FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING DIVISION.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UM, OUR PRESENTATION THAT IS GONNA BE PRESENTED BY BESTER, MS. BESTER, OUR PLANNING AND ZONING MANAGER.
WE WILL HAVE A WEBSITE NAVIGATION INTRODUCTION FROM MS. RO JEWEL WILLIAMS, AND ALSO WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO HELP YOU OUT WITH.
IF YOU HAVE, UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.
AND ALSO ONE IN ONE-ON-ONE, UM, INTERACTIONS AS WELL IN REGARDS TO THE HAMPTON ROAD, UH, CARRY THE CODE.
UM, WE HAVE INFORMATION ON THE TABLE, ON THE TABLE RIGHT THERE.
FEEL FREE TO PICK UP WITH THE, UH, THE BROCHURE THAT WE HAVE TO JU JUST SUMMARIZES THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT THE HAMPTON ROAD COR CHARACTER CODE.
WE ALSO DO HAVE THE BOARDS THAT GIVES YOU INFORMATION.
I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THOSE, UH, THAT INFORMATION, UH, THROUGH THE POWERPOINT, BUT THEY'RE RIGHT THERE AS WELL.
AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE, WE ARE GOING TO USE TO, TO GIVE ONE-ON-ONE INFORMATION.
AND, UM, WE HOPE TO HAVE SOME MORE PEOPLE COMING, BUT AS OF NOW, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND, UH, WE DON'T WANT TO END UP TAKING MORE OF YOUR TIME BECAUSE OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL COMING.
SO WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
AGAIN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKING FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
UH, STARTING FROM WAY BACK IN 2000, 2005.
IN 2005, THERE WAS A HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO, WHICH MEANS AS FAR BACK AS, UH, 2005, THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, THIS VISION, THERE WAS THIS DESIRE TO HAVE, UH, SOMETHING ALONG THE HAMPTON ROAD ROAD CORRIDOR.
AND THEN IN 20, TH IN 2015 WHEN THERE WAS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS DONE AT THAT TIME, IT ALSO POINTED OUT TO THAT HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE PROJECT.
THEN IN 2 20 19, THERE WAS ALSO A HAMPTON ROAD ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT TO SEE WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN WORK, WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR THE CITY.
SO THAT WAS DONE IN 2019, AND IN 2022, THERE WAS A LAND USE STUDY THAT WAS DONE AGAIN FOR THE HAMPTON ROAD.
AND IN 2022, AGAIN, THE SAME YEAR WE HAD THE TAX, UM, INCREMENTAL REINVESTMENT ZONE THAT WAS, THAT WAS DONE FOR THE HAMPTON ROAD AS WELL AS A STREETSCAPE PLAN.
THEN IN 2024, AS YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH THE, UH, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT ALSO POINTED OUT TO THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE, UH, PROJECT.
SO THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN TRYING TO DO, AND IT'S BEEN WANTING TO DO FOR A LONG TIME, AND DIFFERENT STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE TO SEE THE FEASIBILITY, THE POSSIBILITY OF, UH, THIS PROJECT.
SO I WANTED TO JUST GIVE SOME SORT OF A, A BACK, BACK BACKGROUND TO WHAT WE ARE DOING THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT JUST STARTED.
YES, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO REALLY GET IT TO, TO, TO, TO, I MEAN, TO BE THE REALITY.
BUT IT HAS BEEN IN THE WORK CENTER, UM, YOU KNOW, HEARING FROM OTHER PLANNERS FROM OTHER CITIES, UM, WHO WERE AT THE CONFERENCE IN OCTOBER, AND THERE WAS THIS SESSION THAT WAS DONE FOR THE, UM, GO AND SEAT OF GAND.
THEY HAVE, UH, THEIR, THEIR, UM, THEY CALL IT, UM, IT'S IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT THAT, UH, THAT PROJECT WAS FOR THEM.
IT STARTED WAY BACK AROUND THE 2005, BUT THEY ONLY GOT IT TO BE DONE AND COMPLETED IN 2022.
AND, UH, THEY'RE STILL DOING SOME WAKE, SOME SOME WAKE UP TO NOW.
SO FOR ME, WHEN I HEARD THAT, I SAID, WELL, IT MAY FEEL THING, I MEAN, SOUND LIKE, NO, WE ARE NOT GOING, GOING ANYWHERE WITH THIS PROJECT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NORMAL FOR, FOR A PROJECT SUCH AS THIS BECAUSE OF THE MAT ISSUE, BECAUSE OF WHAT IS INVOLVED FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS TO TAKE LONG.
HOWEVER, AT SOME POINT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
LIKE THE EXAMPLE THAT I JUST GAVE OF THE CITY OF GALLAND.
THEY ARE THE, THAT PROJECT IS NOW A REALITY, THOUGH.
IT TOOK LONG FOR THEM TO, TO, TO DO IT, BUT IT, AT LEAST AS OF NOW, THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN SHOW, BUT IT TOOK THEM OVER 20 YEARS.
SO WE ARE HOPING THAT THIS ONE ALSO WILL BE SOMETHING THAT AT SOME POINT WE'LL BE ABLE TO SAY IT TOOK
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LONG, BUT HERE IT IS.SO TO THIS MORNING, I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OR AS TO WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT, UH, IN, IN, IN, IN, UM, IN MARCH, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL WAS, WAS, UM, WAS PRESENTED WITH THE REASONING OF THE PROPERTIES IN THE HAMPTON, UH, CORRIDOR.
AND, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF OPPOSITION FROM, FROM, FROM THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT PLAN INCLUDED A LOT OF, UM, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT WERE GOING TO BE MADE NON-CONFORMING, AND A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS WERE RESISTANT TO THAT.
SO ON MAY 7TH, 2024, THE CITY COUNCIL SAID, NO, LET'S RETHINK THIS.
LET'S RE-ENVISION IT SO WE CAN GET A WAY FORWARD WITHOUT HAVING ALL THIS OPPOSITION.
AND BETWEEN MAY AND JULY, THERE WERE MEETINGS, UH, THE STAFF MEETING WITH THE HALF ASSOCIATES THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH, THE CONSULTANT THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH.
AND, UH, THERE WAS THE CREATION OF A REDUCED BOUNDARY WHERE WE SAID, NO, MAYBE LET'S JUST FOCUS ON THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES RATHER THAN TO HAVE ALL THESE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND MAKE A LOT OF RESIDENTS HAVE SAID, LET'S JUST MAYBE AT THIS POINT FOCUS ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALONG THE HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR.
AND THEN IN AUGUST, THEN AFTER THOSE MEETINGS, OF COURSE WE HAD TO TAKE IT TO THE, TO THE CITY COUNCIL, NOT ONLY CITY COUNCIL, BUT AS WELL AS OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND, UH, DISORDER DEVELOPMENT COOPERATION TO MAKE SURE THAT I, THEY'RE ONLY, THEY ARE ALSO OKAY WITH THE IDEA OF REDUCING THE BOUNDARY.
SO WE HAD A JOINT MEETING ON AUGUST 23 WHERE WE PRESENTED THE IDEA OF A REDUCED BOUNDARY.
AND, UM, THAT WAS ON AUGUST 23RD, 2024.
AND, UH, AFTER THAT, UH, DISCUSSION, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION THAT WAS DONE BY OUR ASSOCIATES AT THAT JOINT MEETING.
AND THEN, UH, THERE WAS A BUS TOUR THAT WE, WE TOOK ON THAT DAY.
WE WENT TO TRINITY GROVES AS WELL AS BISHOP ASKED TO KIND OF SEE SOME LIVE EXAMPLES, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SAY, YEAH, WE CAN POSSIBLY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
OF COURSE, IT'LL HAVE TO BE DISORDER STYLE, BUT SEE SOMETHING THAT IS CLOSE TO THIS.
SO THERE WAS A TOUR ON THAT DAY WHEN WE HAD THE JOINT MEETING, UM, TO TRINITY GROVE AS WELL AS BISHOP ARTS.
AND THEN NOW ON NOVEMBER 18, JUST, UH, THIS LAST MONTH, BECAUSE AT THAT AUGUST 23 MEETING, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WERE PRESENT.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE, WERE IN, IN A, IN ONE ACCORD OR IN AGREEMENT WITH THE REDUCED BOUNDARY.
SO WE TOOK IT AGAIN TO THEIR WORK SESSION ON NOVEMBER 18.
AND, UH, WE AGAIN TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA THAT, UM, THIS IS WHAT, UH, THE STAFF IS THINKING, AND THIS IS WHAT WE PRESENTED.
WE HAD A JOINT, UM, JOINT MEETING, AND EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE EXCITED AND HAPPY ABOUT THE REDUCED BOUNDARIES THAT DO NOT INCLUDE A LOT OF, UM, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
SO AT THAT MEETING, UH, ON NOVEMBER 18, WE GOT THE CONSENSUS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE ARE, WE, ALMOST ALL OF THEM WERE HERE AND THEY SAID, YES, THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, LE LET'S, LET'S WORK ON IT.
LET'S WORK WITH THE REDUCED BOUNDARY.
AND THEN ON DECEMBER 10, JUST UM, LAST WEEK WE DECIDED ALSO TO TAKE THAT, UH, THAT, UM, INFORMATION TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, KNOWING THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS THE BOARD THAT MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE WANTED ALSO FOR THEM TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE THE STATUS OF THIS, UH, PROJECT IS.
AND, UM, THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY DID ALSO GET THAT INFORMATION ON DECEMBER 10.
SO THIS IS SOME SORT OF JUST THE BACKGROUND FROM WHEN WE HAD THE LAST, UM, HAMPTON ROAD PROJECT WITH THE PUBLIC AND WHAT HAPPENED FROM MAY SEVEN WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL SAID, NO, LET'S GO BACK, AND WHAT HAPPENED FROM THAT TIME UNTIL NOW? SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE NOW.
SO IF YOU LOOK ON, ON, ON THE, ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU SEE THAT THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE DID IN, IN MARCH.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT, THAT, THAT WAS, THAT, THAT WAS, UH, THE ORIGINAL WITH ALL A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES INCLUDED.
AND THIS IS ALSO THE MAP THAT ARE THE TESTS THAT I TALKED ABOUT, THE TAX INCREMENTAL, UH, REINVESTMENT ZONE.
THESE, ALL THESE PROPERTIES ARE INCLUDED IN THAT.
HOWEVER, I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT, UH, THOUGH WE ARE REDUCING THE BOUNDARY, THIS, THIS, THE, THIS, UM, BIG PICTURE IS NOT GOING
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AWAY.BUT AS OF NOW, WE ARE NOT FOCUSING ON THE BIG PICTURE.
WE ARE FOCUSING ON THIS, THIS IS THE REDUCED BOUNDARY.
AND WITH THIS REDUCED BOUNDARY, YOU SEE THAT THERE ARE PROPERTIES MAINLY THAT, THAT FACES HAMPTON ROAD AND A FEW THAT ARE LONG PRESENT RUN, RIGHT, RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT HERE.
BUT ALL THE PROPERTIES, THEY FACE HAMPTON ROAD.
AND THIS IS WHAT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, AGREED ON TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S CONCENTRATE FOR NOW, LET'S START WITH COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND LEAVE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ALONE.
SO NOW WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
WE ONLY HAVE LIKE NINE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW THAT ARE INCLUDED.
AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE RIGHT HERE.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOW, THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL, THAT ARE WITHIN THIS SUB REDUCED BOUNDARY.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS COMMERCIAL.
SO THIS IS WHAT I WAS SAYING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL GAVE CONSENSUS TO SAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, FOCUS ON THIS AND RUN WITH THIS FOR THE TIME BEING.
SO THIS IS AGAIN, THE ORIGINAL MAP AND THIS IS THE REDUCED BOUNDARY.
SO NOW OUR FOCUS IS ON THIS ONE, THE REDUCED BOUNDARY.
SO LET ME TALK ABOUT THE, UM, THE, UM, ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WE ARE ENVISIONING FOR OUR ON THIS, UH, IN THIS REDUCED BOUNDARY.
SO WITH THE REDUCED BOUNDARY, SEE THAT WE STILL HAVE THE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS, THE FIVE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WERE IN HERE, WE STILL HAVE THEM HERE.
AND THESE DISTRICTS ARE URBAN CENTER.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS MOST DENSE, THE ONE THAT WE HAVE MORE STORIES LIKE UP TO FIVE STORIES OF BUILDINGS.
BUT THESE BUILDINGS ARE NOT JUST GOING TO BE LIKE FIVE STORIES OF APARTMENTS.
LIKE WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE, UM, A BUILDING THAT HAS COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND RESIDENTIAL OFFICE PROPERTIES, SAY OFFICES IN THE, IN THE SECOND LEVEL.
AND THEN THE REST, THE THIRD AND THE FOURTH FLOOR, FIFTH FLOOR, THEY WILL HAVE, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
SO THIS WILL BE MIXED, BUT THIS WILL BE THE MOST INTENSE.
AND THIS IS, AND THE PROPERTIES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE THESE ONES THAT ARE IN PINK.
THOSE ARE THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE THOSE DENSE AND, UM, UP TO FIVE STORIES BUILDING.
AND THERE WILL BE MIXED USE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
AND THAT IS THE MOST INTENSE ZONING DISTRICT THAT WE, WE, WE ARE LOOKING AT.
AND AN EXAMPLE IS, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW E CENTER CAN LOOK LIKE.
AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS LOWER LEVEL FOR THE GROUND FLOOR, IT HAS COMMERCIAL USES, AND THE REST CAN BE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
THEN THE NEXT, THE NEXT, UH, GEN, UM, SEWING DISTRICT IS URBAN GENERAL.
AND URBAN GENERAL PROPERTIES ARE THE ONES THAT YOU SEE HERE IN GRAY.
THOSE ARE THE URBAN GENERAL PROPERTIES.
AND THIS, WE ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT MIXED USE, BUT THE INTENSITY IS SLIGHTLY LESS THAN URBAN CENTER.
AND THE USES THAT WE ARE TARGETING ARE THE MIXED USE AND SHOPPING AND PERSONAL SERVICES, PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, APARTMENTS IN TOWN, HOME, THE LIVE WORK STYLE KIND OF TOWN HOMES.
SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING IN URBAN GENERAL.
AND YES, AN EXAMPLE OF URBAN GENERAL, AGAIN, MORE CLOSE TO URBAN CENTER WITH, UM, COMMERCIAL USES ON THE BOTTOM AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON THE, ON THE UPPER LEVELS.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE IS VERY SIMPLE.
IT IS ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A SHOPPING STRIP AND, UH, THE ONES THAT SERVE NEEDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S, IT DOESN'T HAVE MUCH, IT DOESN'T HAVE A, IT'S JUST MOST OF THE TIME ONE STORY, BUT IT CAN GO TO TWO STORIES, JUST ONE STORY, TWO STORIES.
BUT IT'S MOSTLY THOSE SERVICES THAT ARE SOMEONE IN, YOU KNOW, JUST CLOSE TO HOME WHERE YOU CAN GO GET YOUR NAILS DONE, GO GET YOUR HAIR DONE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO GET, YOU KNOW, SOME FOOD, SOME RESTAURANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO THE USES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IN THIS HOUSE, ZONING DISTRICTS ARE SHOPPING AND PERSONAL SERVICES, RETAIL OFFICES.
WE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, UH, APARTMENTS, TOWN HOMES, BUT NOT AT THE SAME INTENSITY AS IN URBAN CENTER AND URBAN GENERAL.
THEN THIS, THERE IS THIS URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD IS JUST MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL.
THIS DOES NOT HAVE ANY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
AND, UH, THIS, THIS IS MOSTLY TWO STORY, TWO STORY, ONE STORY.
AND, UH, IN SOME CASES, SOME CASES VERY MINOR CASES, WE MAY HAVE, UH, SOME, SOME, SOME MIXED USE RETAIL
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AND RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL.BUT MOSTLY IT'S APARTMENTS IS TOWN HOMES AND, UH, SOME MIXED USES.
BUT VERY, AND THIS IS VERY LIMITED.
IT'S JUST THIS AREA RIGHT HERE WHERE YOU HAVE THE YELLOW.
OTHERWISE THE REST OF IT IS OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS.
AND FOR E TRANSITION, THIS IS WHEN WE ARE GETTING IN, UH, THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE VERY CLOSE TO, UM, UH, SINGLE FAMILY OR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.
AND IN THIS CASE, WITH THE REDUCED BOUNDARY, WE DO HAVE THIS AREA ONLY FOR NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION AND NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.
WE DO HAVE TOWN HOMES, WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY IN LIMITED CASES, WE DO ALSO HAVE ACCESSORY DWELLING.
AND AN EXAMPLE OF, UM, HOW HOMES THAT YOU CAN FIND IS THESE TOWN HOMES.
THIS IS WHAT YOU FIND IN THE
THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, IN ALMOST LIKE IT'S GETTING, YOU KNOW, FROM THIS IS ALMOST LIKE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE USES THAT HAVE COMMERCIAL USES.
THEN WE HAVE THIS THAT IS JUST RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN YOU GET TO YOUR REGULAR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT DO NOT HAVE ANY, ANY COMMERCIAL USES.
BEFORE I GO TO TO, TO THE SCHEDULE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE REASON WHY.
WHY DO WE EVEN WANT TO BOTHER ABOUT, UH, THIS PROJECT? WHY DO WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT? WE, WE, WE, WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO CREATE THAT AREA IN, IN, IN, UM, IN DESOTO THAT PEOPLE WANT TO GO TO.
WE HAD, WHEN WE ARE DOING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT PEOPLE GO TO UP, UP NORTH TO GET TO NICE RESTAURANTS, TO GET TO PLACES WHERE THEY CAN JUST SIT, RELAX, AND ENJOY A SATURDAY MORNING OR WHATEVER, FRIDAY EVENING PEOPLE ARE GOING, SOME OTHER PLACES, THE CITY'S LOSING A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SPENDING THAT MONEY AWAY FROM CITY OF DISORDER.
SO THIS, THIS IS WHY FROM 2005, THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT ITCHING THAT DESIRE TO SAY, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE SOMETHING OURSELVES? WE ARE GOING OUT TO ALL THESE OTHER CITIES.
WHY CAN'T WE CREATE SOMETHING WITHIN THE CITY? SO THIS IS ONE OF THE REASON, ECONOMIC VIBRANCY, LET'S NOT LET MONEY GO OUT OF DISORDER.
WHEN WE CAN BE ABLE TO CREATE SOMETHING, WE CAN BE ABLE TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, OUR OWN DESTINATION AREA WHERE PEOPLE CAN, WE CAN BEGIN TO ATTRACT PEOPLE FROM OTHER CITIES JUST THE SAME WAY THAT WE HAVE BEEN GOING OUT.
WE CAN START, YOU KNOW, HAVING PEOPLE COME TO THIS AREA.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANT TO, WE ARE CONTINUING TO PUSH TO SAY, YES, WE MAY HAVE HAD A LOT OF OPPOSITION, BUT HERE, LET'S FOCUS ON THIS.
LET'S GET THIS TO BE A REALITY.
THIS WILL GIVE US THE CITY GREATER OPPORTUNITY FOR BUSINESSES, A SPECIAL RETAILERS, CLOTHING, BOUTIQUES AND RESTAURANTS THAT EVERYONE, I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE DOING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PEOPLE KEPT SAYING, WE WANT SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS.
HERE'S A CHANCE FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO, TO HAVE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
THIS ALSO CREATES THAT AREA WHERE PEOPLE CAN JUST FEEL THEY CAN JUST DRIVE ONCE AND, UH, WALK FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CAN WALK AROUND AND THEY'RE SAFE.
AND EVEN, UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE ON BIKES AND STUFF, IT'LL BE SAFE, PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE LIST, UM, AREA.
SO THIS IS ALSO THAT, THAT, UH, VISION TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO, MOST OF THEM, IF THEY CAN JUST LEAVE UPSTAIRS AND WORK DOWNSTAIRS, THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.
SO WE WANT, WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THIS SORT.
WE CAN CREATE A, AN AREA WHERE THEY CAN BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT? I CAN GET ME AN APARTMENT.
I CAN GET ME A, A PLACE WHERE I CAN LIVE W WORK AND ENJOY IN THE EVENINGS.
THEY'RE HAVING A GOOD TIME FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
THEY'RE JUST HAVING A, WITHIN THEIR AREA WITHOUT HAVING TO DRIVE ANYWHERE ELSE.
AND WE, WE ALSO BE HAVING OTHER PEOPLE FROM OTHER CITIES COMING TO, TO, TO, TO, TO, TO SPEND MONEY HERE IN THE CITY.
AND, UH, WITHIN THE, UH, THE, UM, WHAT I DIDN'T MENTION WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE STORY IS THAT IT'S JUST ONE STRIP MILE FROM BELT LINE AND PRESENT RUN.
SO THIS, THIS AREA IS, CAN BE AN AREA WHERE, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'VE BEEN TO PLACES WHERE THEY CAN CLOSE, SAY THERE'S A SPECIAL FUNCTION, THEY CAN CLOSE THAT AREA TO JUST MAKE IT LIKE, HAVE PEOPLE ON THE STREETS.
THEY HAVE VENDORS THAT ARE JUST, PEOPLE ARE JUST, IT'S A CELEBRATION IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WANTS TO DO.
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THAT ONE MILE, IT'S JUST CLOSE TO TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE ARE JUST COMING AND SPENDING TIME AND SPENDING MONEY AND IN JUST ENJOYING LIFE.THIS IS POTENTIAL THAT HAMPTON, UH, ROAD, UH, ROAD CHARACTER CODE HAS FOR THE, FOR AN AREA THAT IS FLEXIBLE AND ADAPTABLE TO BE USED IN ALL KINDS OF WAYS THAT WILL JUST BRING PEOPLE, ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THE AREA.
SO IT'LL BE AN AREA WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF OT IS VERY PROUD OF.
YOU CAN SAY, HEY, YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS, LIKE THIS IN THE SOUTH.
THIS IS THE AREA TO GO TO IN THE SOUTHERN AREA.
SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, WE HAVE A CHANCE TO CREATE, TO CREATE SUCH AN AREA.
SO WITH THAT SAID, LET ME NOW JUST TELL YOU ABOUT THE SCHEDULE V OF EVENTS THAT WE HAVE.
HOPEFULLY TO JUST GET THIS INTO PEOPLE'S MINDS TO SAY THAT LET'S GO, LET'S DO IT.
AND THESE ARE THE SCHEDULED EVENTS.
TODAY WE ARE HAVING THIS MEETING THAT WE ARE MEETING WITH, UH, DIFFERENT ONES.
WE HOPE TO MEET WITH RESIDENTS, WE ARE HOPE MORE RESIDENTS.
WE ARE HOPING TO MEET IN THIS MEETINGS TO MEET WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND SO WE HAVE THIS MEETING TO TODAY AND ON ON TUESDAY.
THIS COMING TUESDAY WE HAVE ALSO ANOTHER MEETING, SAME FORMAT AND EVERYTHING.
UH, IT'LL BE FROM SIX TO EIGHT AND THEN ON ON DECEMBER 19TH, WE WANT TO TRY AND ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE WITH THEIR DIFFERENT SCHEDULES ON, ON NOVEMBER NINE, DECEMBER 19.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE IT DURING THE DAY SO THAT THOSE THAT CANNOT COME, THAT COULD NOT MAKE IT TODAY, CANNOT COME IN THE EVENING.
ON TUESDAY, THEY CAN HAVE A CHANCE ON THURSDAY TO MEET FROM.
THAT TIME IS GOING TO BE FROM 10 TO NOON.
SO WE'LL BE HERE THOSE THREE DAYS JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS.
SO THAT WE ARE TRYING TO REACH OUT TO AS MANY RESIDENCIES WE CAN DO, AS MANY DEVELOPERS DO, AS MANY PROPERTY OWNERS AS WE CAN.
NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THESE MEETINGS THIS DECEMBER, WE ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE THE SAME MEETINGS IN, IN JANUARY.
SO IN JANUARY 11, WHICH WILL BE SATURDAY, WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE HAVING THE SAME MEETING FROM NINE TO NOON.
AND THEN ON, UH, JANUARY 16, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE, UH, A MEETING THAT WILL START FROM 10 TO 12 TO ACCOMMODATE AGAIN, THOSE PEOPLE THAT CANNOT COME AT NIGHT.
AND THEN ON THE SAME DAY, ON JANUARY 16TH, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER SESSION IN THE EVENING TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE THAT CANNOT MAKE IT DURING THE DAYTIME.
SO WE DO, WE HAVE ALL THESE MEETINGS.
SO IF WE HAVE FRIENDS, UH, FAMILY MEMBERS, AND EVEN JUST OTHER PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KNOW THE GOOD THAT IS HAPPENING, THAT IS TAKING PLACE IN THIS SORT OF TO WANT TO HEAR, TO GET MORE INFORMATION, THESE ARE THE DAYS THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE TO THEM.
AND THESE DAYS I ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE AND I ONE ANOTHER, IS GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE ON THE WEBSITE.
WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE A WORK SESSION WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON, UM, JANUARY 14TH TO REALLY GET INTO THE WEEDS AND FOR THEM TO REALLY GET TO ALL THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED BEFORE THEY CAN TAKE ACTION ON JANUARY 28TH.
JANUARY 28 IS WHEN WE ARE GOING TO, TO HAVE A PROPERTY REZONING PUBLIC HEARING MEETING.
THESE PROPERTIES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITHIN THE REDUCED BOND.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON, UH, JANUARY 28TH, 2020, 25.
AND THEN WE, IF ALL GOES WELL, WE PLAN TO HAVE THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 18TH, 2028.
AND, AND, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL, OF COURSE, IS THE FINAL SAY.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS JUST A RECOMMENDING BODY, BUT THEY'LL BE RECOMMENDING EITHER APPROVAL OR DENIAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ACTION ON THAT.
UH, PROPERTY REZONING ON, UH, FEBRUARY 18TH, 2025.
AT THIS TIME, I'M GONNA GIVE, UH, THIS TIME TO ANOTHER, ANOTHER IS GONNA WALK US THROUGH THE INFORMATION THAT WE, WE HAVE ON THE WEBSITE.
WE HAVE AN INTERACTIVE MAP ON THE WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN GET INFORMATION, MORE INFORMATION, UM, THAN WE, THAN INFORMATION THAT WE, THAT WE CAN PUT ON A POSTCARD.
THAT INFORMATION CAN BE OBTAINED FROM THE WEBSITE AND ONE ANOTHER IS GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH HOW YOU CAN GET TO THIS INFORMATION ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
I HAVE TO WORK FROM, UH, THE STAND SO I CAN NAVIGATE THE LAPTOP.
BUT THIS SLIDE THAT YOU SEE UP NOW, WE DO HAVE PRINTOUTS, UM, THAT YOU CAN TAKE WITH YOU TO HELP YOU NAVIGATE THE WEBSITE.
SO I'M GONNA JUST GO, UM, TO THE CITY WEBSITE AND FROM THE, LET'S GO FROM THE FRONT PAGE.
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ONCE, ONCE YOU LOG ONTO THE CITY WEBSITE, WE ARE GONNA GO TO THE NAVIGATION BAR AND HOVER OVER BUSINESS.UH, WE HAVE ADDED A LINK THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO THE HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR PLAN MAP.
SO YOU WANNA GO TO THAT LINK AND CLICK THERE.
ONCE YOU GET TO THAT PAGE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UM, THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT LINKS, BUT THE ONE WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON RIGHT NOW IS THE MIDDLE ONE, WHICH, UM, HAS THE INTERACTIVE MAP FOR THE, UH, HRCC ZONING MAP DISTRICT.
SO ONCE THE MAP IS LOADED, YOU CAN ZOOM IN AND ZOOM OUT TO SEE THE ENTIRE UH, UM, DISTRICT.
BUT WE GOING TO CLICK ON ANY PROPERTY.
YOU CAN CLICK ON YOUR PROPERTY OR ANY PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN.
KNOWING THE NEW ZONING DISTRICT, ONCE YOU CLICK ON THERE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A BOX THAT POPS UP.
IT'S GONNA GIVE YOU, UM, THE NEW ZONING INFORMATION, THE CURRENT AND THE NEW ZONING INFORMATION.
BUT THERE'S A, UH, A DOCK BOX.
IF YOU HOVER OVER THERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, YOU CAN OPEN THAT WIDER TO GET THE, A BETTER VIEW OF THE INFORMATION.
SO AT THE TOP BAR THERE'S GONNA HAVE THE CURRENT ZONING, WHICH THIS PARCEL IS UNDER PD 58, AND THEN THE PROPOSED ZONING WILL BE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.
AND TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION OR, UM, TO JUST BRUSH UP ON THE INFORMATION, MS. BESTA JUST GAVE YOU, YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN AND IT'LL GIVE YOU, UM, THE SAME INFORMATION MS. BESTA JUST GAVE IN HER PRESENTATION.
SO IT IS PRETTY EASY, YOU JUST HAVE TO KNOW WHERE TO GO AT.
AND, UM, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THE SLIDE THAT MS. VEST SHOWED THAT HAD, UM, ALL THESE STEPS IS LOCATED ON THE BACK TABLE.
SO FEEL FREE TO PICK UP, UH, A SHEET SO YOU'LL BE, HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT DISTRICT.
SO I'M GONNA JUST, UH, TAKE THIS TIME TO CLICK ON ANOTHER ONE.
SO THAT ONE WAS IN TRANSITION AND I'M ZOOMING IN.
JUST SO YOU CAN SEE ALL FIVE DISTRICTS ARE, ARE REPRESENTED IN THE REDUCED BOUNDARIES.
SO I'LL CLICK HERE AND THIS IS NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
YOU SEE CURRENT ZONE IN THIS SINGLE FAMILY NINE, BUT THE PROPOSED ZONING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, LEMME JUST CLICK ON THAT AGAIN AND I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP.
SO THE TARGET LAND USE IN THIS AREA IS SHOP AND RETAIL AND OFFICE.
SO IT'LL JUST GIVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON, UH, WHAT'S THE PROPOSED USE FOR THIS NEW DISTRICT.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY DEMONSTRATION.
SO I'M GONNA TURN BACK OVER TO MS. BEST.
SO WE ARE GOING TO OPEN UP THIS, UH, SESSION FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US, WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
WE CAN MEET WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND GO THROUGH, UM, QUESTIONS OR EXPLAINING SOME MORE IF YOU NEED MORE EXPLANATION.
BUT THIS TIME IS FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS.
BUT, UH, WE ARE HERE NOW FOR YOU TO ANSWER TO ASK US ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY, YOU MIGHT HAVE CONCERNING THIS, UH, UPTOWN DOWN.
UM, WE DON'T WANT TO CALL IT DOWNTOWN.
WE WANT TO CALL IT UPTOWN THESO UPTOWN.
SO LET'S GO AND VESSEL, LET ME ASK IF YOU GET ANY QUESTIONS, WOULD YOU REPEAT THOSE, REQUEST THOSE QUESTIONS, UH, SO THAT, UH, THIS VIDEO WILL, UH, ALLOW THE, UH, HEARERS TO HEAR WHAT THOSE QUESTIONS ARE.
WE ALSO HAVE, UH, UH, COMMENT CARDS THAT ARE AT THE BACK.
IF YOU WANT, YOU WOULD RATHER JUST WRITE YOUR COMMENTS.
BUT, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE ARE HERE.
MR. BREWER, OUR DIRECTOR, WE ARE NOT OUR PLANNER MYSELF.
WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY INITIALLY WAS THAT, UH, THERE WAS SOME PUSHBACK BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE MAYBE IMPACTED THIS PLACE.
SO WHY DID YOU INCLUDE THEM INITIALLY AND NOW YOU'RE AGREEING THAT IT'S OKAY NOT TO INCLUDE THEM.
IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT THE SUCCESS OF THE PROJECT A GOOD A PROJECT? YEAH, GOOD QUESTION AND THANK YOU.
UM, INITIALLY, LIKE I SAID AGAIN THIS, THIS, THIS WAS THE AREA THAT WAS FOCUSED TO BE THE
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HAMPTON ROAD OAK RE, UM, HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE.SO, AND WITH THAT, THAT TE TEST STUDY, THE TAX INCREMENTAL REINVESTMENT ZONE INCLUDED ALL THESE, THESE PARTS, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL IS ALWAYS COMMERCIAL.
HOWEVER, LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE OPPOSITION FROM MANY RESIDENTS WHO FELT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO BE MADE NONCONFORMING ONCE THE REASONING IS IN PLACE, CITY COUNCIL FELT LIKE IT'S, AT THIS POINT THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO INCLUDE THEM.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND START LOOKING AT THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY COMMERCIAL.
AND YOUR QUESTION IS LIKE, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THIS SUCCESS? I DON'T REALLY SEE HOW WE, THE INCLUSION OF THESE OTHER PROPERTIES WAS TO GIVE THESE PROPERTIES ANOTHER OPTION TO SAY, OKAY, IF I DON'T WISH TO SELL MY HOUSE BUT WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, SAY TO START A BUSINESS IN MY HOUSE THAT WAS GOING TO GIVE THIS PROPERTY OWNER RIGHT HERE, OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
BUT HOWEVER, WITH THIS ONE, IT DOES NOT STOP THE CREATION OF THAT DOWNTOWN AREA THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN ENVISIONING SINCE 2005.
IT'S JUST GIVING US A FOCUS AREA SOMEWHERE WHERE TO START, WHERE TO GET THINGS GOING.
AND WE ARE HOPING THAT WITH THAT SUCCESS, MAYBE MORE RES RESIDENTS WHO WERE OPPOSING WHEN THIS IS UP AND GOING, SOMEONE MAY COME AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK I WANT MY PROPERTY TO BE ZONED JUST LIKE THESE ONES SO I CAN DO SOME BUSINESS, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO PULL BACK.
IT MAY FEEL LIKE, HA NO, I MEAN IT'S ALMOST LIKE I'M FAILING.
BUT NO, YOU PULL BACK AND YOU LEAP FORWARD.
SO THIS IS WHAT THE CITY'S DOING, PULLING BACK AND LEAPING FORWARD BECAUSE WITH THE SUCCESS OF THESE, THESE PROPERTIES FOR NOW, IT'LL REALLY HELP TO, TO, TO GET THINGS GOING.
AND WE DO HAVE, UH, ALSO, UM, DEVELOPERS WHO ARE READY TO JUMP IN ONCE THESE PROPERTIES ARE ARE REASON.
BUT MR. BREW WANTS TO ADD SOMETHING.
I JUST WANT TO ADD, UM, THAT ORIGINAL BOUNDARY MIRRORED EXACTLY WHAT, UH, MS. BESTER INDICATED WAS A TS A TAX MENTATION REINVESTMENT, UH, ZONE AREA.
WHAT THAT IS IS ESTABLISHED IN 2022 THAT AS PROPERTY TAXES, IF THEY WOULD INCREASE ANYTHING ABOVE WHAT THAT VALUE WAS IN 2022, THOSE FUNDS COULD BE SET ASIDE AND USE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THIS AREA.
WATER, SEWER, STREETS, ET CETERA.
SO BECAUSE THAT BOUNDARY HAS BEEN DEFINED IN 2022, IT STILL IS GOING TO GROW FUNDS NECESSARY TO MAKE SOME OF THESE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
EVEN THOUGH RIGHT NOW THE OBJECTIVE IS TO HAVE A SMALLER TARGET AREA TO BEGIN THIS INITIAL PROCESS TO HELP MORE WITH THE IMMEDIATE DEVELOPMENT ALONG HAMPTON ROAD AND THOSE SECTIONS OF PLEASANT RUN AND BELTLINE.
WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT IF SOMEONE IN WHO HAS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY DECIDES LATER ON, SAY A DEVELOPER COMES, A BUSINESS OWNER COMES AND SAYS, I'D LIKE TO PURCHASE YOUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, THEN IT COULD BE UPGRADED TO COMMERCIAL TO FIT INTO THIS PLAN.
NOW UN MAJOR PROBLEMS. UNDERSTAND REZONING AND PROPERTY CAN BE DONE IN THREE WAYS BY THE PROPERTY OWNER THEMSELVES INITIATING THE PROPERTY, INITIATING THE ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS THE CITY COUNCIL UPON THEIR OWN INITIATION OR ORDER AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
SO YES, IF THAT PROPERTY OWNER HAS THAT POTENTIAL, UH, BUSINESS DEVELOPER REACH OUT TO THEM, THIS IS THE VISION THAT THE CITY HAS PROJECTED FOR THIS AREA.
THE CITY HAS MULTI, MULTI, UM, SEVERAL OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS ALREADY ESTABLISHED, BUT THIS IS THE VISION AND IT WOULD BE MORE RECEPTIVE AND SUPPORTIVE OF THE COUNCIL CURRENT COUNSELING AND HOPEFULLY COUNCILS GOING FORWARD.
'CAUSE THIS IS THAT 20 YEAR VISION THE CITY HAS STARTED, UM, BACK IN, IN 2005.
MY NEXT QUESTION IS, IS THERE A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT'S SLATED TO BE REZONED UNDER THE
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NOVEMBER, 2024 ALLY? WILL THERE BE ANY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY? ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS WE WERE ALSO, UH, REQUIRED TO BY THE STATE OF TEXAS, IF THE ACTION OF THE CITY AND REZONING ANY PROPERTY COULD POTENTIALLY TAKE A CONFORMING PROPERTY INTO A NON-CONFORMING STATUS, THE CITY IS MANDATED BY THE, UH, STATE OF TEXAS AND WE'VE CHANGED OUR ZONING ORDINANCE THIS YEAR.ALSO, TO COMPLY WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE TO SEND OUT WRITTEN NOTICES SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS GIVING THEM THAT FORMAL NOTIFICATION.
WITH THIS REDUCED BOUNDARY MAP, UH, MY STAFF COUNTED UP THAT THERE WAS ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN PROPERTIES THAT, UH, APPEARED TO WILL BE IMPACTED BY THIS ZONING CHANGE.
ON THE HANDOUT BULLETIN THAT WE HAVE AT THE DESK, IT SHOWS THAT THIS REDUCED BOUNDARY WILL CON HAS TAKEN IT DOWN FROM I THINK OVER 400 LOTS TO ONLY ABOUT 216.
AND WITHIN THAT 216 IT APPEARS ABOUT SIX, UH, SEVEN ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY, IF IT'S APPROVED BY COUNCIL, TO HAVE THEIR PROPERTIES, UM, GO FROM WHAT'S CONSIDERED CONFORMING TO NON-CONFORMING.
AGAIN, THOSE PROPERTIES CAN STILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS THEY ARE.
THIS DOES NOT MAKE THEM STOP THEIR USE.
SO RESIDENTIAL USE IN THOSE AREAS CAN JUST STILL CONTINUE.
UH, DOES THE PROJECT, UH, INCLUDE ANY CITY, CITY LIVING FACILITIES? UH, WHERE'S THE CITY ON ATTRACTING SENIOR LIVING WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO TRANSITION FROM INDIVIDUAL SINGLE RESIDENTIAL HOME OWNERSHIP TO A CONDENSED AREA WHERE THEY ARE WITH THEIR WALKING DISTANCE OF SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT? THE QUESTION WAS, UH, HAS THE CITY LOOKED AT DESIGNATING A AREA WITHIN THIS AREA FOR SENIOR LIVING? UH, RIGHT NOW THE ANSWER IS NO.
WE HAVE NOT TAKEN THAT INTO ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OVERALL ZONING DESIGNATION WITH THE FIVE ZONING DISTRICTS.
SO NO, AT THIS POINT WE HAVE NOT REALLY SPECIFICALLY LOOKED AT ESTABLISHING A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AREA FOR SENIORS.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY SOME DESIGNATIONS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN.
THERE ARE, UH, AGE RESTRICTED, UH, 55 AND UP COMMUNITIES THERE, BUT SPECIFICALLY CITY ITSELF, TAKING IT UPON ITSELF TO ESTABLISH THAT THE ANSWER IS NO AT THIS TIME.
BUT LET ME ALSO ADD THAT, UH, IT DEVELOPED, SORRY, SINCE WE HAVE THAT AREA THAT WE SAID IT, IT'S IN A CENTER AND A, UH, GENERAL, IT INCLUDES APARTMENT, TOWN HOMES, THOSE APARTMENTS, A DEVELOPER CAN COME AND WANT TO DEVELOP A SENIOR LIVING APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING THAT, UH, THAT DEVELOPER FROM DOING THAT BECAUSE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, MIXED USE COMMERCIAL ON THE BOTTOM AND RESIDENTIAL THAT RESIDENTIAL CAN BE SENIOR LIVING.
BUT AGAIN, SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR QUESTION, THE ANSWER'S NO.
WELL, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT AS THE CITY WANTS TO KEEP THE YOUNG PEOPLE AND ATTRACT YOUNG PROFESSIONALS TO THE CITY, THAT WOULD ALSO THINK ABOUT MAKING THIS A GOOD RETIREMENT COMMITTEE COMMUNITY SO THAT THERE ARE ACTIVITIES THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE OLDER INDIVIDUALS TO COME TO THE CITY AS WELL.
WHAT I WILL GUARANTEE YOU, AS WE DID WITH THE FIRST PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH AND EVEN WHEN THE CONSULTANTS WERE HAVING THEIR PUBLIC MEETINGS, UH, UH, WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE INFORMATION, UH, THAT YOU JUST SHARED WITH US WILL BE COMMUNICATED TO OUR PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL SO THEY CAN BE AWARE OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, YOU, UH, BUILD THESE DEPARTMENTS, PUT A HIGH PRICE ON THEM, YOU CAN'T WEAR MAP AND THEN THEY GO TO GOVERNMENT ATTRACT DIFFERENT KIND OF FIGURE.
AND I JUST WANT, ARE YOU PLANNING ON PUTTING THE DEPARTMENTS IN? YES, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE MIXED USE, UH, ELEMENT IS PROPOSING, UM, TO HAVE, UH, BUILDINGS, AS WE SHOWED FIVE STORIES AND THREE STORIES, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THE MIXED USE, UH, PROBABLY COMMERCIAL OR BUSINESS AT THE BOTTOM.
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THE MULTIFAMILY AT AT THE TOP.THAT, THAT NOTION AND THAT FEELING IS VERY, IT'S VERY WELL KNOWN AND HAD ALL THE TIME, BUT THE SH THE UH, REALITY OF THIS KIND OF, UM, PROJECT, THERE IS NO WAY IT CAN REALLY BECOME THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE WITHOUT THE APARTMENT COM UM, COMPONENT BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU LOOK AT.
UM, EVEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHEN THEY LOOK AT PROPERTIES THAT ARE JUST SAY SINGLE FAMILY AND THAT SAME PROPERTY IS TAKEN AND BE UM, BE MIXED USE WITH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, YOU FIND THAT THE ONE THAT IS RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO BE MORE VIABLE.
IT'S GONNA BE MORE ECONOMICALLY VIABLE THAN THE ONE THAT IS JUST MAYBE JUST EVEN JUST APARTMENTS ONLY.
SO IT'S FOR THIS KIND OF PROJECT AND FOR JUST THIS AREA BECAUSE THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT, UH, IT'S GONNA TAKE AWAY THE WEIGHT FROM THE AREAS THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HAVE APARTMENTS AROUND WHERE THEY LIVE IN THEIR SINGLE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, AREAS.
THEY DON'T WANT THOSE APARTMENTS.
SO WHY CAN'T WE JUST CREATE THIS AREA WHERE WE CAN SAY, HEY, YOU ALL PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO HAVE A YARD TO, TO, TO MOW AND OH, HERE'S AN AREA THAT YOU CAN GO TO.
THIS IS WHAT WE ARE, AN AREA THAT WE ARE SAYING, LET'S HAVE AN AREA WHERE WE TAKE AWAY THE WEIGHT FOR APARTMENTS FROM ALL THESE OTHER AREAS IN THE, IN THE CITY AND JUST CONCENTRATE THE APARTMENTS.
AND THEY'RE NOT LIKE JUST REGULAR APARTMENTS.
THEY ARE CALLED E RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS THEY, I I DUNNO WHETHER YOU DRIVE A LOT ALONG 75.
YOU SEE THEY HAVE THOSE HIGH RISE APARTMENTS ALONG, YOU KNOW, THE CORRIDOR AND STUFF.
THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF, THEY'RE NOT JUST LIKE REGULAR APARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
THEY ARE DIFFERENT TYPE OF RE I MEAN APARTMENTS SO MUCH SO THAT THEY ARE JUST THE BEST AND SUIT WHAT THE CITY IS LOOKING INTO.
BUT THAT, THAT COMPONENT IS NEEDED.
WE NEED THOSE KINDS OF THINGS IF IT'S GONNA WORK, OTHERWISE WILL NOT HAVE DEVELOPERS WHO WILL BE INTERESTED IN DOING ANYTHING.
I NO CAME ALONG CONDO AND EVERYTHING.
THEY WERE, AND THEY GOVERNMENT UNITS.
SO YOU, YOU KNOW, YOUR SQUARE WENT DOWN AND YOU DIDN'T GET PEOPLE.
SO YOU, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT AT THIS POINT, YES, WE CAN THINK OF ALL KINDS OF STUFF AND YEAH IT CAN AND IT IS REALITY IN A LOT OF SITUATIONS IN SOME SITUATIONS.
BUT WE ALSO, IF WE ARE EVER GOING TO DO ANYTHING IN THE CITY OF DESOTO, WE HAVE TO THINK OF THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND THERE ARE MORE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH THESE THINGS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAN HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
OTHERWISE WE WON'T BUILD ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU FIND THAT, OH THIS, WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM, ALL THIS AND LIFE AS IT IS.
IF YOU WANT TO LOOK SOME PEOPLE, OH, BUT THEY, YOU HAVE TO REALLY THINK OF THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DONE IT AND THEY'RE DOING VERY WELL.
THE CITY IS VIBRANT AND SOME OF US, LIKE I I'VE SAID IN THE BEGINNING, WE ARE GOING TO THOSE AREAS DALLAS, WE ARE GOING TO THOSE AREA FRISCO, WE ARE GOING TO THOSE AREAS, BUT WE ARE NOT JUST THINKING OF WHY DON'T WE HAVE IT HOME? WHY CAN'T WE CREATE IT HERE AND HAVE FOR OUR OWN AND HAVE OTHER PEOPLE COME HERE.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO SAY, TO SAY, PLEASE LET'S STAY HOME, LET'S DO SOMETHING HERE.
THIS CITY CAN BE SOMETHING THAT THE, YOU KNOW, COME TO THE SOUTHERN SIDE IS AN AREA TO TALK ABOUT AREA THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE PROUD OF TO INVITE FRIENDS, FRIENDS AND FAMILIES.
ALSO WITH THE H HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODES BEING ADOPTED BY THE CITY BACK IN MARCH OR FEBRUARY.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE GO TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND READ THE REGULATIONS 'CAUSE IT IDENTIFIES BUILDING SIZE, UH, PARKING REQUIREMENTS WHERE A D ARE REQUIRED OR ARE BEING ALLOWED.
IT'S NOT IN EVERY DISTRICT, BUT THAT INFORMATION IS THERE.
AND DEFINITELY I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IF, IF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE REGULATIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL MYSELF OR MY STAFF.
WE'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE THE TIME WHETHER'S TO SPEAK WITH YOU ON THE PHONE OR SET UP A MEETING AND WE CAN GO, UH, REALLY HANDS ON AND GO DEEP INTO THE REGULATIONS.
YEAH, I GOT ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN BEHIND ME CITY FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO.
AND SO I'M AFRAID THEY PUT, THEY WERE PUT FEDERAL
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THAT WINDOW DOWN THE STREET ANYWAY.I WOULD ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAYBE KNOW WHAT THE CITY IS LOOKING AT AS FAR AS UH, WHICH DEVELOPERS ARE ACTUALLY REACHING OUT TO THE CITY.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO SPEAK TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, MATT CARLSON.
UH, HE WAS INVOLVED, I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE MARCH OF 2022 AND I BELIEVE HE HAS MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR PRIOR TO ME.
DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT, BUT I, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL LESS THAN FIVE YEARS FOR SURE.
BUT DEFINITELY TALK TO, TO MATT 'CAUSE HE WAS THE ONE PERSONALLY INVOLVED WITH EVEN THE PURCHASES OF A LOT OF THOSE PROPERTIES UP THERE.
I DUNNO WHETHER IT'S HIM OR SOMEBODY ELSE BY, OKAY, THEN THE CITY MANAGER CAME BY, UH, YEARS BEFORE THAT HE CAME BY, BUT NOT WIFE.
NOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I COULD SAY THAT, UH, THE CITY IS LOOKING AT BY IT, STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE AND BUYING THESE PROPERTIES, IT'S GONNA DEFINITELY ENSURE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT IT BRINGS IN QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, VERSUS A DEVELOPER WHO HAS HIS RIGHTS TO JUST DEAL WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER HIMSELF AND WHATEVER YOUR REGULATIONS ARE.
BUT CITY PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, HAVING A DE UH, A MICROSCOPE, UH, PLACED ON IT.
UH, WHAT'S GONNA BE DONE, BUT DEFINITELY SPEAK TO, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MATT CARSON.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, LET ME GET, TURN IT BACK OVER TO BESTER.
PLEASE ALLOW ME TO ADD THAT, UH, EVEN IF THE CITY GOES AHEAD AND REASON THIS PROPERTIES, THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT THAT IS JUST GOING TO POP UP WITHOUT COMING TO THE CITY.
THEY HAVE TO DO THE SIDE PLAN, WHICH GOES THROUGH THIS TEAM.
THEY HAVE TO DO LANDSCAPE PLAN EVERYTHING.
WE ARE GOING, EVERY, THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES TO THE CITY WITHOUT PASSING THROUGH THIS, UH, THE, THE, THE PLANNING DIVISION TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE GOING BY THE REGULATIONS AND WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WHATEVER IS COMING UP, IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WILL CAUSE ANY, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVITY TO THE PROPERTIES AROUND.
SO DON'T EVER THINK THAT, UH, ONCE THESE PROPERTIES ARE, ARE NED, EVERYONE IS JUST FREE TO JUST BUILD HOWEVER THEY WANT.
EVERYONE OF THOSE PLANTS WILL COME THROUGH THE CITY BEFORE THEY CAN DIG.
THEY WILL HAVE TO GET THEIR, THEIR, THEIR BUILDING PERMIT.
THEY HAVE TO AFTER THEY MEET THE COURTS.
SO EVERY PLAN WILL COME THROUGH THE CITY.
EVEN IF THE THESE PROPERTIES ARE REASON TODAY, THEY'LL HAVE EVERY ONE OF THEM.
IF THERE IS GOING TO BE NEW DEVELOPMENT, EVEN IF UH, THEY WANT TO DO SOME CHANGES, MAJOR CHANGES, THEY HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE CITY.
SO NEVER ENTERTAIN IT IN YOUR MINDS THAT SOMEONE IS JUST GOING TO POP UP AND START BUILDING THESE THINGS THAT ARE UM, WILL BE NEGATIVE OR NOT HARMONIOUS WITH THE SURROUNDING.
NO, WE ARE HERE NOT TO JUST REASON THE PROPERTIES AND GO AWAY.
WE ARE HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT UP TO WHEN SOMEONE GETS THAT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANTS, IT'S THESE PROPERTIES IN LINE WITH WHAT THE CITY WANTS.
IF IT IS NOT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD ANYTHING THAT THE CITY IS NOT PUTTING AAMP ON IT.
SO IF THAT CAN GIVE YOU SOME ASSURANCE, PLEASE BE ASSURED.
YOU KEEP SAYING THE CITY, THE CITY, THE CITY, THE CITY, CITY IS THE CITY.
NOW WHAT MAKES US THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT IT, THAT I WANT OR HE WANTS IT, THAT I WANT.
SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY THING SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD OR DO ON THIS PROJECT IS GONNA BE PUT TO A VOTE FOR THE CITIZENS OF DESO, NOT JUST THE ZONING OR NOT JUST THE CITY THAT YOU CALLING SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR QUESTION STAFF WILL ONLY ENSURE WHAT THE REGULATIONS ALLOW AND THAT'S WHAT THE USAGES ARE ESTABLISHED
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IN EITHER THE ZONING ORDINANCE OR THE HAMPTON ROAD CO CORRIDOR.AND YOU SAID THE REGULAT ANYTHING? OH, OUR CITY COUNCIL.
AND AND THESE PARTICULAR REGULATIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THIS AREA, WHICH WE'RE CALLING THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE ZONING REGULATIONS.
THEY WERE ADOPTED BY THE CITY IN EITHER EITHER FEBRUARY OR MARCH OF THIS YEAR.
AND SO IF, IF THOSE REGULATIONS ARE STILL NOT IN WHAT YOU PERSONALLY FEEL, YOU CAN STILL VOICE YOUR CONCERNS OF THAT AND WE WOULD DEFINITELY STILL COMMUNICATE THAT TO OUR COUNSEL.
WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT YES MA'AM.
BUT I BUT I AGREE WITH YOU 100% AND LIKE THE PEOPLE USUALLY THAT ARE BEING INVOLVED IN THE AREA THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DON'T HAVE ANY PROPERTY ON THAT AT ALL.
SO WHEN YOU SAY THE CITY, YOU KNOW, YOU UNDERSTAND IT'S A, BECAUSE THE CITY IS NOT THE CITY AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY I FELT I NEED TO COME DOWN TO THE PODIUM JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
WHAT WE ARE CHARGED TO DO IS TO REGULATE THE REGULATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THAT'S, IN THIS CASE, IT IS WHAT THOSE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODES ARE.
SO IF SOMETHING COMES UP THAT THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DISCUSSED, OKAY, WHAT SHE'S SAID, WHICH I REALLY CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW STUFF, AND IT'S NOT BEING OF PRECIOUS, IT'S JUST THAT I UNDERSTAND HIM A WHOLE LOT BETTER.
UM, ANYWAY, IF SOMETHING COMES UP THAT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN OKAY AND ALL LAST TIME, UH, YOU'RE GONNA PUT IT FORTH TO THE CITIZENS OFSO AND THEY'LL VOTE ON THIS.
SHE SIT FOR THE A SIX SEVEN, WHATEVER.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WANNA GET CLARIFIED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE HAMPTON ROAD COURT TO ZONING ORDINANCE, SAME AS OUR CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE, THERE ARE USE CHARTS THERE THAT A, A USE CHART IDENTIFY, IT'S ESTABLISHED TO WHERE THAT CHART IS GOING TO EITHER IN ITS EXCEL SHEET FORM EITHER IS GONNA BE BLANK.
IF IT'S BLANK, THAT PARTICULAR USE IS NOT ALLOWED.
IF IT HAS AN X IN IT, IT'S A USE BY RIGHT.
THOSE THAT ARE USED BY RIGHT WILL NOT COME BEFORE EITHER THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL.
AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO GET CLARIFIED.
IF IT HAS A PACIFIC USE PERMIT ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THAT'S WHEN WE ARE MANDATED TO HAVE TO SEND NOTICES OUT TO.
UH, JASON PROPERTY OWNS WITHIN 200 COURTESY NOTICES OUT FROM 200 TO 400 FEET TO LET, UH, INDIVIDUALS KNOW THAT A PACIFIC USE PERMIT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
THE CHART, THE TABLE DESIGNATES IF THERE'S ANOTHER LAYER APPLIED TO IT.
SO SIMILAR TO WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAID, THERE STILL MAY NOT BE A PASSING FIELD OF A PARTICULAR USE THAT'S ALLOWED IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT IF IT'S DESIGNATED AS ALLOWABLE, IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS, THE BUILDER OR DEVELOPER WILL SIMPLY GO TO THE CITY'S PERMITTING OFFICE, UH, AND ZONING ORDERS TO APPLY FOR EITHER BUILDING PERMIT OR CERTIFICATE OF ACCURACY IF SOMETHING'S ALREADY THERE.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WANNA REALLY CLARIFY THAT CHART WE'RE ALREADY THERE, EXCUSE ME, WE'RE ALREADY THERE.
WE HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 19 IN THE EIGHTIES.
SO WILL BE DONE TO OUR PROPERTY, WILL TRY TO REPORT, BE DONE OUR PROPERTY ALL WHATSOEVER AS LONG AS WE CHOOSE TO STAY THERE.
AS I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S ONLY BY THE STATE OF TEXAS, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER TWO 11, THERE IS ONLY THREE WAYS ANYBODY CAN CHANGE PROPERTY, THAT PROPERTY OWNER THEMSELVES OR SHOULD THEY DELEGATE SOMEBODY TO REPRESENT THEM.
AND THEN THE OTHER TWO ARE PROCESSES.
THE CITY COUNCIL COULD INITIATE IT OR ORDER IT, UH, AS WE ARE DOING HERE, BUT THEN IT HAS TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND THE SAME THING INITIATED BY THE P AND Z.
SO TO SPECIFICALLY ASK YOUR QUESTION WITH, WITH YOU BEING THAT PROPERTY OWNER, NOTHING CAN HAPPEN AS FAR AS THE ZONING CHANGE, THAT CURRENT ZONING DESIGNATION WILL CONTINUE.
I MEAN, I WANT TO START OVER GROW.
AND SO THE IDEAS I THINK WILL BE VERY, VERY BENEFICIAL AND YES MA'AM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, BUT IT'S JUST I DON'T, SOMEBODY COMING IN TELLING ME WHAT I HAVE TO DO AND WHETHER BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I'VE BEEN TO MANY, MANY, MANY MEETINGS SINCE 19, DAY THREE AND LISTENED TO STUFF.
THIS ALL CAME ABOUT LONG TIME AGO AND WE, IT'S NOT THE WAY IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT THE CITY.
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MA'AM.AND THE CITY IS NOT LOOKING AT INITIATING IMMINENT DOMAIN TO TAKE OVER YOUR PROPERTY.
WELL, THEY COULDN'T ANYWAY, BECAUSE I HAVE, BUT YES MA'AM.
IF IT HAS TO BE DONE, CITY'S NOT THINKING ABOUT THAT.
THEY'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT THAT.
AND I'LL LET THE CITY SOUNDS GOOD.
SO RIGHT NOW WHEN ARE THEY PLANNING THIS? AND ALSO WHY WOULD THEY HAVE A MEETING, HAVE ALL THESE SIGNS PUT UP AND EVERYTHING THEY COME TO THIS MEETING AND THEN BLOCK OFF THE PARKING LOT WEEKEND PARK TIMING? NO, I WAS GONNA SAY, SEE THAT, THAT'S WHAT SCARES ME.
IT, PEOPLE THAT ARE PLANNING THE MEETINGS AND STUFF ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT YOU WITH THE BE OUT THERE JACKING AROUND AND BLOCKED OFF THE PARKING.
AND YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE, UH, ICE SKATING ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING ON.
UM, BUT PARKING IS AVAILABLE ON OTHER SIDE.
OH, I, YES MA'AM, BUT WE'RE OLD.
MOST PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE MEETING AND STUFF UP HERE, JEFFERSON, STUFF LIKE THAT OVER THERE.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU I'M WITH YOU.
UH, LET, LET ME ASK RENAR, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE, UH, DEALING WITH THE SCHEDULING AND THAT WAY WE CAN, UH, DEFINITELY RE-ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
WHAT'S THE PROCESS, UM, AS BESTA SPOKE TO EARLIER, THE TOP TWO, I'M GONNA CALL IT LINES OR SPEAKING ABOUT THE SIX PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE DAY'S, THE FIRST, THE NEXT ONE WILL BE NEXT TUESDAY, FOLLOWED BY NEXT THURSDAY.
SO THOSE WILL BE THE ONES IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.
WILL THEY? NO, WE HAVE, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL TELL YOU, YOU HAVE A CARD.
WELL, MOST OF THE PEOPLE WERE, WELL WE, WE, WE, WE LEARNED FROM OUR LAST PROCESS AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE HAVING ONE ON A SATURDAY.
AND I MAY BE SAYING THIS WRONG, BUT ONE, WHETHER IT'S TUESDAY OR THURSDAY WILL BE IN THE DAYTIME AND THE OTHER WILL BE IN EVENING.
WE TRY TO ENSURE THAT THESE THREE MEETINGS FOR THIS WEEK, SAME AS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN JANUARY, WILL BE A SATURDAY, A WEEKDAY DURING THE DAYTIME AND THE WEEKDAY DURING THE EVENING.
AND AGAIN, WE'LL KEEP EMPHASIZING, WE ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU WHENEVER YOU ARE READY, CALL US.
WE CAN SET UP A MEETING, WHETHER IT'S VIRTUAL, WHETHER IT'S IN MEETING, WHETHER IT'S ON TELEPHONE, TO HELP YOU AS A RESIDENT BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE, WHAT THE VISION IS, WHAT THE TIMING IS.
BUT SPECIFICALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST TWO ROWS WHERE IT SAYS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COMMISSION THAT ACTUALLY NOW HAS THREE NEW MEMBERS WHO WERE NOT A PART OF THAT BOARD WHEN WE CAME THROUGH WITH THE ZONING REGULATIONS EARLIER IN THIS YEAR.
SO WE REALIZED WE HAVE TO DO SOME MORE EDUCATING AND WORKING WITH THEM.
SO IN THE GREEN AREA THAT WHAT SHE'S SHOWING NOW, THEIR WORKSHOP MEETING IS GOING TO BE JANUARY THE 14TH, WHERE WE ARE GOING TO GO OVER IT, GO OVER IT, GO OVER IT WITH THEM TO TRY TO HELP THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN, REQUIRED BY THE STATE IS FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL BE JANUARY THE 28TH.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETS THE SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH AT 6:00 PM IT'LL BE IN THIS, IN THIS, IN THIS AREA.
AGAIN, THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE ARE MANDATED BY THE STATE TO SEND OUT PUBLIC HEARINGS TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
AND OUR CITY COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED AND ESTABLISHED THE ORDINANCE TO SAY WE'RE GONNA SEND OUT COURTESY NOTICES TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS FROM 200 TO 400 FEET.
AS ALSO MENTIONED, WE'RE MANDATED BY THE STATE AND NOW ADOPTED BY THE CITY FOR SURE THAT ANY PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE INVESTIGATED THAT APPEAR APPEARED TO GONNA BE GOING FROM CONFORMING TO NON-CONFORMING.
WE HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY SEND THEM A SEPARATE LETTER AND WE HAVE SOME SPECIAL BOLD PRINT ABOUT A 12 INCH FONT TO GIVE THEM THAT INDICATION THAT BECAUSE OF THE ACTION THAT THE CITY IS WORKING TOWARD, THEY MAY BE GOING FROM CONFORMING TO NON-CONFORMING.
SO ON THE 28TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL BE CONDUCTING THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, RECEIVING PUBLIC HEARING INPUT AND THEN DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE READY TO FORWARD THEIR RECOMMENDATION ONTO THE CITY COUNCIL AT THAT POINT OR EVEN HAVE A, AN ADDITIONAL MEETING.
BUT WE'RE FORECASTING THEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CITY
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COUNCIL IN THIS SAME CHAMBER ROOM TO BE FEBRUARY THE 18TH.ARE THEY STILL, BECAUSE I DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION.
UH, ARE THEY STILL PLANNING ON GOING FROM DOWN BELTLINE CHATTY? NO MA'AM.
IF YOU'D PULL UP THE MAP, RENO, I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
YOU SEE THAT, UM, IT'S THE MARKER.
THIS WAS THE LARGER MAP THAT MIRRORED THE TERRORIST BOUNDARY, THE ORIGINAL, THIS IS A REDUCED VERSION IF WE WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS BELTLINE HERE.
UM, THIS RIGHT THERE IS CHATTY AND AS YOU COULD SEE, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BOARDING BOTH THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF BELTLINE, UM, ARE BEING CONSIDERED IN THIS PRO IN THIS PROCESS WE'RE GOING THROUGH NOW.
WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY I, MEETING MEETING, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IT GOING ALL THE WAY TO CHATTY AND THEN TURN AROUND PAT
AND I KNOW IF THERE WAS STILL A THAT NO, AS YOU COULD SEE, UH, DURING THE PROCESS, UH, THERE WAS A WORKSHOP THAT WAS CONDUCTED BETWEEN THE PLANNING AND ZONING CITY COUNCIL AND DDC, UM, THAT CONSIDERED A REDUCED BOUNDARY.
WE EVEN, UH, HAD OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO GO IN AND GIVE SOME EVEN ADDITIONAL MODIFICATIONS OF WHAT TO REDUCE.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE TOOK TO CITY COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE GOT THE, UH, GENERAL CONSENSUS, UNANIMOUS CONSENSUS TO REDUCE THIS.
SO THE AREA YOU RETURNED TALKING TO NEAR THE CAR WASH, YOU CAN SEE THIS AREA HERE, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT.
I CAN'T SEE IT VERY WELL, BUT IT'S OKAY.
BUT DEFINITELY YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE PAMPHLET, SO THAT WILL SHOW YOU.
AND IF EVEN IF, IF THAT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, UM, RENAR IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, UH, PULL BACK UP THE INTERACTIVE MAP.
THIS PROCESS WE HAVE, UH, BEEN HELD BY GIS DEPARTMENT.
UH, WE HEARD DURING OUR FIRST PROCESS, INDIVIDUALS WERE SAYING, WE REALLY CAN'T READ THIS MAP.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO WHAT WE DID THIS TIME, UM, WE NOW HAVE AN INTERACTIVE MAP THAT, LET ME GET YOU TO BLOW IT UP.
SO WHERE EVEN A MAN LIKE ME THAT, UH, NEED GLASSES WILL BE ABLE TO FIND OUT WHAT MY PROPERTY IS AND WHAT THIS, THIS IS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
IT'S THE CITY'S WEBPAGE IS WWW.DESOTOTEXAS.GOV.
IF YOU GO ON THE HOMEPAGE, TAKE US BACK TO THE HOMEPAGE, RENO PLEASE.
YOU GO TO THE HOMEPAGE, WENO WILL WILL SAY, YOU GO TO THE TOP WHERE IT SAYS BUSINESS STRAIGHT DOWN.
WE HAVE NOW CREATED A LINK CALLED HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER.
IT'LL SPECIFICALLY TAKE YOU TO THAT PAGE.
AT THE VERY TOP WE HAVE AN INTERACTIVE MAP.
YOU CLICK THAT AND IF YOU WOULD EN UH, ENLARGING IT PLEASE.
AND, UH, LET'S GO TO THE, UM, PROPERTY AT THE CORNER OF, OF OF BELT LINE IN HAMPTON E.
EITHER ONE OF THOSE CLICK ON THAT PROPERTY, EITHER ONE OF 'EM.
SO NOW WE SPECIFICALLY ARE HELPING INDIVIDUALS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR PROPERTY CURRENTLY IS ZONED, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
AND AS YOU SEE INFORMATION ON THAT PRO PROPOSED ZONING, SO WE HEARD WHAT WAS, UH, UH, INDICATED TO US AS UH, A NEED.
AND WE ARE TRYING TO HELP EVERYONE TO CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED WHILE WE GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.
AND YOU'RE SAYING THIS GOING STRICTLY FROM BELT LINE, IT'S NOT GOING NOT PASS BELT LINE.
BERNARD, IF YOU GET RID OF THE, THE SIDE AREA, THE SIDE, PULL IT DOWN TO THAT INTERSECTION OF BELTLINE AND HAMPTON, LET'S TAKE IT TO THE LEFT.
AND AS YOU SEE, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT FIRST STREET TO THE WEST BEFORE YOU GET TO THE CREEK, THERE ARE TWO LOTS AND I BELIEVE THAT MAY BE WHERE THE CAR WASH IS.
YOU CAN SEE THE CAR WASH LOT AND THE NEXT ONE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S NOT GOING PAST THAT.
NOW LET'S DRAG IT TO THE RIGHT AND I STAND CORRECTED.
SO THIS SHOWS YOU THE EXTREMITY OF THOSE
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PROPERTY BORDERING BOTH BELTLINE THE SAME THINGS TO THE NORTH, YOU CAN CLEARLY ZOOM THIS IN AND KNOW EXACTLY.I WAS TALKING ABOUT GOING UP AND DOWN HERE.
IS IT GOING JUST THE BELT LINE? NO, NO.
THIS, THIS VISION THAT THE CITY HAS, UM, WE, WE SPEAK
WE, WE, WE SPEAK OF A ONE MILE STRETCH GOING FROM BELTLINE TO HAMPTON.
I MEAN BELTLINE TO PLEASANT RUN.
BUT AS YOU SEE REDUCED IT JUST A LITTLE, A LITTLE BIT FIRST.
SO WE CAN GET A VISUAL FROM BELTLINE IS GOING SOUTH TOWARD EAGLE DRIVE.
AND THEN LET'S TAKE IT TO THE NORTH.
YOU COULD SEE IT'S GOING FROM PLEASANT RUN TO PASS 10 MILE CREEK UP MILL STOCKLEY, BUT JUST THOSE LARGER TRACKS THAT ARE BOARDING THAT PROPERTY.
I CAN'T REALLY SEE ANY PROBLEM GOING 10 MILE CREEK GOING UP TO THE POST OFFICE.
AND SO TAKE IT BACK DOWN AGAIN AND AGAIN, THIS IS LETTING YOU KNOW AND SEE YOU CAN BLOW IT UP AS LARGE AS YOU NEED TO SEE IT, TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS REDUCED AREA IS.
LET'S TAKE IT UP TO HAMPTON AND SPINNER.
UH, I JUST WANNA SEE WHAT THE MANDATE SPINNER HALFWAY BETWEEN HAMPTON AND HALFWAY BETWEEN
WHAT WE WILL BE HAVING IS AFTER WE CONCLUDE THE MEETING, WE'LL HAVE ONE-ON-ONE.
SO WE CAN GO SPECIFICALLY, UH, TO A LOT THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN.
I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO BESTER TO TAKE US IN THAT NEXT PHASE, WHICH IS THE ONE-ON-ONE SESSIONS.
AGAIN, WE ARE GONNA BE AVAILABLE FOR YOU.
PLEASE CALL US, WE CAN TALK VIRTUALLY, WE CAN TALK ON THE PHONE.
WE CAN, OR WE CAN MEET IN PERSON.
YOU STILL ANSWER QUESTION WHEN EXACTLY ARE THEY PLANNING ON TRYING RIGHT NOW, BUT WHAT IS THE FUTURE TIMELINE TRYING TO PLAN WHEN THIS IS SUPPOSED? THAT'S THE CHART THAT I WAS SHOWING YOU.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE HAVING THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
PUBLIC INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS.
SO THE FIRST PHASE IS TO HAVE TWO MONTHS OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
OUR YES, AND AS I SAID BY THIS CHART, WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS.
THE FIRST TWO ROLES OF THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS, THE THIRD SESSION THAT SAYS PLANNING AND ZONING, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP SESSION ON THE JANUARY 14TH, THEIR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 28TH.
THE NEXT ONE IS FEBRUARY THE 18TH.
OKAY, SO AFTER THAT WHERE WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
THIS IS ONLY THE ZONING ELEMENT.
WE ARE NOWHERE NEAR, UH, IT WAS 1986.
THEY STARTED OFF THIS BEFORE AND NOTHING EVER HAPPENED.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF LIKE WONDERING IF I'LL BE DEAD, YOU KNOW, BEFORE IT STARTS OR WHATEVER.
I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
THE ELEMENT WE ARE GOING THROUGH PROJECTION IS, OKAY, MY PHYSICAL PROCESS, I STILL CAN'T GIVE YOU A PHYSICAL PROJECTION ON THE ROADWAY.
THAT'S A SEPARATE ELEMENT FROM WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS WHEN IS THE CITY, THE CITY HAS A CONTRACT WITH HALF AN ASSOCIATE THAT THEY EXECUTED IN MARCH, 2022 TO START THE ENGINEERING DESIGN, TO FOLLOW THAT STREET SCAPE DESIGN THAT THE CITY HAD FOR THIS VISION.
THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING AND THAT I CANNOT GIVE YOU DEFINITIVELY.
IT'S STILL SO, SO, SO, SO, SO, SO, SO MUCH MORE TO DO WITH THAT.
A MAJOR ELEMENT WAS GETTING PAST THIS PHASE.
IF THIS GOES AND FAILS, DECISIONS GONNA HAVE TO BE MADE ON THAT ROADWAY.
BUT THIS WAS THAT FIRST MAJOR MAJOR, THE FIRST HURDLE WAS GETTING THE ZONING REGULATIONS APPROVED.
THAT'S DONE IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH.
WELL, COMING UP WITH THE DESIGN TOO, YOU KNOW, WELL, UH, STILL IT'S, IT'S A PROCESS THAT THINGS ARE WORKING AT AT AS WE TALK AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT THIS WAS YOU, YOU'VE GOT TO GET THROUGH SOME MAJOR HURDLES, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE STARTED THE ENGINEERING DESIGN ON IT.
WE ARE GONNA COMMUNICATE TO THE RESIDENTS WHAT'S GONNA
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HAPPENING.BUT IT'S STILL, I CANNOT GIVE YOU DEFINITIVE OF WHEN THE ROADWAY, I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS.
WHENEVER THEY STARTED BEFORE IT WAS LIKE, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, THIS, AND THIS, AND IT'S ALL GONNA BE DONE.
AND HERE IT'S IN 2024 AND WELL, YOU'LL ALSO, BUT YOU'LL ALSO HAVE TO REALIZE THE REALITY TO DO A ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION, IT'S GONNA COST MONEY.
RIGHT NOW THE CITY IS, IS COMMITTED.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SEVERAL MAJOR CIP PROJECTS.
WE'RE WORKING WITH DALLAS COUNTY.
THE CITY ALSO HAS THE MA THE, UH, MAJOR AQUATIC CENTER, AQUATIC AND RECREATION CENTER THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'S A $43 MILLION CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
SO THE CITY ONLY HAS CERTAIN BONDING CAPACITY THAT THEY CAN DO CERTAIN THINGS.
SO THE COUNCIL WILL BE MAKING A, YOU KNOW, DETERMINATION OF ORDER OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
SO RIGHT NOW IT HAS COMMITMENTS WITH THE DALLAS COUNTY ON THREE OTHER ONES.
CONCRETELY RIGHT NOW DANIELDALE WESTMORELAND, UM, DANIELDALE FROM RE UH, DANIELDALE FROM CONCRETE HILL TO JUST WEST OF, TO EAST OF WESTMORELAND PLEASANT RUN FROM COCH HILL TO WESTMORELAND AND WESTMORELAND FROM BELTLINE TO PARKVILLE.
SO RIGHT NOW THOSE ARE, UH, WHERE THE CALL FOR PROJECTS THAT THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL HAD STAFF TO SEND TO DALLAS COUNTY.
DALLAS COUNTY HAS AGREED WITH THE DANIELDALE PROJECT.
IT WAS AGREEING TO DO A 50 50 FOR THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, PARKVILLE, THE UTILITY COMPANIES ARE RELOCATING, BUT THE CITY IS STILL GOING TO HAVE FIND THE FUNDING TO HELP PAY FOR THESE.
SO WE STILL GOT A LOT MORE DISCUSSION.
SO ADDING NOW RECONSTRUCTION HERE, WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE WAYS DOWN, DEALING WITH OTHER FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS RIGHT NOW.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO BESSER TO TAKE US TO THAT NEXT PHASE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY AS THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR PLEASE, THANK, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND, AND ASKING YOUR QUESTIONS.
BUT PLEASE REACH OUT TO US IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT IS IDENTIFIED THERE.
I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY BUT TO JUST, IF ANY ONE OF YOU, WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU'LL WANT TO ASK.
WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.