Jul 25, 2024 City Council Special Meeting

[1. THURSDAY, JULY 25, 2024 Call to Order at 6:00pm Invocation a. Discussion of the General Fund b. Discussion of Cooperative Efforts c. Discussion of Hotel Occupancy Fund d. Discussion of DeSoto Development Corporation (DDC) Budget & Work Plan]

[2. FRIDAY, JULY 26, 2024 Call to Order at 9am Invocation Continued discussion of any items A-D from Thursday, July 25th. a. Discussion of Special Revenue Fund b. Discussion of All Other Funds, Vehicle & Equipment Replacement Funds, and Facility Maintenance Funds c. Discussion of Debt Service Fund d. Discussion of Public Utilities e. Discussion of Sanitation Fund f. Discussion of Drainage Fund g. Discussion of Capital Improvement Plan (CIP)]

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A.M. I'M MAYOR RACHEL PROCTOR, AND I WANT TO WELCOME YOU ALL TO OUR SPECIAL MEETING. THIS IS THE

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CAN CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? ABSOLUTELY. SO WE ARE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS A MINIMUM MANNING SET, RIGHT. IT REQUIRES ME AN X AMOUNT 16 PEOPLE, 16 FIREFIGHTERS A DAY TO RUN OUR THREE FIRE STATIONS. SO WHEN I DON'T HAVE 16 PEOPLE THERE, I HAVE TO PAY OVERTIME, TO COVER OUR STATIONS. IT'S LIKE MY EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT. IF SHE'S OUT, I DON'T HAVE TO PUT ANYBODY IN THAT SEAT. WE CAN JUST GO WITHOUT A FOR A DAY. SO WE WENT BACK AND WE TOOK A FIVE YEAR SNAPSHOT OF THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF WHAT IT COST US IN OVERTIME TO RUN OUR FIRE STATIONS. AND THEN WE AVERAGED THAT WITH OUR SALARIES. AND THAT'S WHERE WE COME UP WITH THAT PERCENTAGE OF WHAT IT COST IN OVERTIME FOR US TO MAINTAIN OUR MINIMUM MANNING, STAFFING LEVELS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND THE SECOND ONE, HONORABLE MAN, IS ONE OF OUR. GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. ASIDE FROM ONE SPECIFIC YEAR OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, IT'S AVERAGED ABOUT 8.5% IN OVERTIME EVERY SINGLE YEAR. AND RATHER THAN RATHER THAN HAVE A SET AMOUNT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEN HAVE THEM ASK THROUGHOUT THE YEAR FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR OVERTIME, THIS IS THIS IS JUST CONDUCTING THEIR BUSINESS JUST AS IF THEY ARE AN OWNER OF A BUSINESS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY CAN MANAGE THEIR BUDGET WITHIN THAT BUSINESS MODEL, WITHIN THAT, ALLOCATED FUNDING FOR THEM. AND IT'S A SET AMOUNT THAT THEY HAVE TO MANAGE REGARDLESS OF, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF WHAT FLUCTUATION IT IS UP TO THAT MAXIMUM AMOUNT. AND WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A LOT MORE PREDICTABLE, A LOT MORE, A LOT MORE DELIBERATE IN HOW THEY CONDUCT THEIR BUSINESS. AND THEY HAVE TO ESTABLISH A WHOLE YEAR WORTH OF A BUSINESS PLAN TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, SO THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE THOUGHT BEHIND IT, WHETHER THAT THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. AND SO THERE'S PREDICTABILITY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR. AND THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, FLUCTUATION IN, IN, IN HOW MUCH OVERTIME IS BEING EXPENDED.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM, I SEE YOUR HAND. THERE AND GOOD MORNING. COUNCIL. MY QUESTION IS AROUND THE OVERTIME, SO THAT'S YOU SAID, CHIEF, THAT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE STAFFING THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY, THEN THE FOLKS TO DO THE JOB AND WORK THE OVERTIME, BUT ON THE BUDGET THAT WE WERE PROVIDED, IT SHOWS THAT YOU WENT DOWN A HEADCOUNT FOR THE, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC. HOW TO AVOID OVERTIME. I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU WOULD NEED THE STAFFING TO SUPPORT IT. IS ARE YOU GOING TO TALK TO THAT TODAY OR, I CAN I YOU KNOW, I ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS EVERY YEAR. IT WAS NOT IT'S NOT IN THIS BUDGET TO GET ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS. BUT EVEN BEYOND THAT, WHEN WE HIRE, SINCE WE HIRE UNCERTIFIED, IT TAKES US A YEAR AND A HALF TO GET SOMEONE THROUGH ALL THE TRAINING THEY HAVE TO HAVE BEFORE I CAN ACTUALLY UTILIZE THEM, IN THE FIRE STATION. SO I MAY SHOW THAT I'M FULL AND LAST YEAR WAS THE CASE, RIGHT? WE WERE COMPLETELY FULL, BUT I HAD, TEN PEOPLE IN TRAINING AT ONE TIME. AND THEN WE HAD WE HAD INJURIES AND WE HAD BABIES. WE HAD DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, AFFECTED WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAD IN THE STATION. SO EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL BE FULL PAYING THE SALARIES, BUT I'VE GOT TO GET THEM THROUGH ALL THEIR TRAINING THAT THEY HAVE TO ACCOMPLISH BEFORE WE CAN PUT THEM IN THE FIRE STATIONS. SO THAT'S ALWAYS A LAG, THIS YEAR COMING UP, I CAN TELL YOU WE'VE ALREADY WE'RE FIXING TO HAVE OUR THIRD RETIREMENT SINCE JANUARY, SO WE'VE GOT A RETIREMENTS AND THAT WE'RE HAVING TO START FILLING WHEN WE HIRE THE PEOPLE TO REPLACE THE RETIREMENTS, WE'VE GOT TO SEND THEM TO SCHOOL, AND WE'VE GOT TO LET THEM GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY UTILIZE THEM IN THE FIRE STATIONS. SO, CHIEF, IS THIS AN ERROR WHERE IT SHOWS YOU GO FROM 46 TO 45, FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS? IS THAT A YES? YES, MA'AM. THAT IS AN ERROR. THAT IS AN ERROR. YEAH.

WE, WE CAUGHT THAT AND SENT THAT OVER TO FINANCE. THAT WAS JUST AN ERROR IN THE WRITING. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER. SO THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I DO WANT TO ASK A QUESTION AROUND THE OVERTIME AS WELL. I, I HEAR A LOT THAT PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THESE RETIREMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THIS, AND, AND I JUST REMEMBER, FROM MY PREVIOUS DAYS WORKING WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, THEY WOULD ALWAYS PROJECT THE NUMBER OF RETIREMENTS COMING UP. THEY WOULD KNOW WHAT THEIR BUDGET NEEDS TO BE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF RETIREMENTS, THE POSSIBILITIES. IF YOU WILL. AND SO I JUST WANT TO ASK THAT QUESTION IN, IN THIS OVERTIME. I KNOW YOU SAID IT'S WHAT, 8.25 OR IT'S 8.5, 8.55, 8.5, I DON'T

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SO AFTER 20 YEARS, WE CAN RETIRE. AND IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, TYPICALLY WE HAVE LONG TENURED, PERSONNEL IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY STAY THERE THEIR FULL CAREERS, ALL MY UPPER RANKS ARE WELL OVER 20 YEARS OF SERVICE, SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO PREDICT. I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY.

I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THESE THREE RETIREMENTS I GOT THIS YEAR, BUT THEY DID, END UP RETIRING AND DOING OTHER THINGS. SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO PROJECT HOW MANY MAY OR MAY NOT, RETIRE. SO I DO HAVE A GOOD PORTION OF MY FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT COULD RETIRE TOMORROW IF THEY WANTED TO. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO. DOESN'T MEAN THEY WILL, BUT THEY CAN. OKAY. THAT WAS AND COUNCILMAN PARKER TO THAT TO THAT QUESTION. THAT WAS ACTUALLY MY QUESTION BECAUSE JUST LOOKING AT HOW IS THERE A WAY TO PROJECT FOR THE RETIREMENTS BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY'RE COMING AND IT OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE STATED THAT YOU ALL HAVE AN IDEA OF THE POSSIBLE RETIREES. HOWEVER, IT'S IF THEY'LL RETIRE AND WHEN IT'S ALWAYS THE UNKNOWN. SO IS IT PRUDENT TO GO AHEAD AND GET TRY TO GET AHEAD OF IT BY PUTTING PEOPLE INTO THE ACADEMY OR WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE AHEAD OF TIME? THAT'S A QUESTION, RIGHT? IS IT PRUDENT TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU STILL DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE WILL RETIRE OR NOT? WITH OUR AVERAGE LOSS OF PERSONNEL, WE LOSE 3 TO 5 PEOPLE A YEAR JUST BECAUSE WE'RE UP. WE ARE A SMALLER CITY AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE WANT TO GO TO BIGGER CITIES. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY PRUDENT TO OVERHIRE HAVE THOSE PEOPLE THROUGH THE TRAINING AND HAVE THEM READY TO GO. YES, I DO, BECAUSE WE AVERAGE 3 TO 5 PEOPLE A YEAR WITHOUT RETIREMENTS. I'VE GOT FOUR PERSONNEL OVER 30 YEARS OF SERVICE. I MEAN, THEY COULD LEAVE TWO OF THEM I KIND OF THINK MIGHT GO. AND THEN THEY MAY HANG ON. YOU KNOW, YOU JUST YOU JUST NEVER KNOW. I THINK MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THINK THIS IS A VERY VALUABLE ARGUMENT AND IT'S SOMETHING FOR US THAT THAT WE WILL NEED TO ACTUALLY, SCHEDULE OR EARMARK FOR. AND SO THE OTHER THING THAT SCARES ME, FOR EXAMPLE, THE NEIGHBORING CITIES, WE KNOW ONE OF THE NEIGHBORING CITIES IS GOING TO HAVE FIRE STATION FOUR, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE HIRING NINE PEOPLE THIS YEAR AND NINE PEOPLE NEXT YEAR. WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, JUST BY NATURE OF OUR BUSINESS, POACH FROM US. AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE CONCERN THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE IN PUTTING PEOPLE THROUGH THE TRAINING FOR ABOUT A YEAR. AND A HALF AND REALLY SPEND TIME AND ENERGY AND MONEY ON IT. SO WE WANT TO BE A LOT MORE PROACTIVE IN HOW WE PLAN OUR FUTURE. AND THAT INCLUDES THE RETIREE. THAT INCLUDES THE HIRING, THE TRAINING, ALL OF THAT. SO WE'LL WE'LL BE COMING UP WITH A MUCH BETTER, MODEL FOR US WITH WITH THE CHIEF'S LEADERSHIP ON ON THAT ONE. AND THEY WILL GO INTO A MUCH MORE DEEPER DIVE ON AUGUST 19TH FOR BOTH POLICE AND FIRE ON THE PRESENTATION OF OVERTIME. AND MAYBE THEY CAN EXTEND THAT TO KIND OF EDUCATE US ON IF WE RESET THE BUTTON, WHAT DO WE WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? AND I'LL WORK WITH BOTH CHIEFS TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, CHIEF. YOU CAN CONTINUE. I'VE GOT YEAH, I'VE GOT I THINK ONE MORE SLIDES. ALL I GOT MAYBE.

YEAH, I CAN TALK ABOUT THE NEXT SLIDE. I KNOW IT IF Y'ALL WANT TO MOVE ON. SO. SO FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS. THERE IT IS. THIS IS, THIS IS THE ONE NOBODY WANTS TO SEE BECAUSE IT IS DEFINITELY GOT A HIGH PRICE TAG. BUT WE ARE WE ARE DEFINITELY A LITTLE BIT BEHIND IN TRYING TO CATCH UP ON WHERE WE'RE AT ON FIRE STATIONS AND FIREFIGHTER NEEDS AND EQUIPMENT NEEDS AND THAT COMES WITH A NEW FIRE STATION. SO WE DID DO THE FEASIBILITY STUDY BACK IN IN THE SUMMER OF 23, AND THEY PRESENTED TO Y'ALL, THAT THAT PRESENTATIO. SO WE ARE LOOKING WE ARE IN NEED. THE ONE LET ME TELL YOU THIS. THE ONE THING THAT SAVED US TO THIS POINT IS THE REGIONAL AGREEMENT THAT WE DO WITH CEDAR HILL AND DUNCANVILLE, THE FACT THAT WE PULL THEIR RESOURCES IN TO HELP US IS WHAT'S ALLOWED US TO PROLONG THE BUILDING OF A NEW FIRE STATION IN THE ADDITION OF

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YEAH. VERY CLEARLY. THANK YOU. THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATES I'M WORKING ON FINE TUNING. WHAT AN ACTUAL FIRE STATION WOULD COST. BUT YOU ARE LOOKING BETWEEN THE SEVEN AND 9 MILLION MARK FOR A NEW FIRE STATION. THAT'S GOING TO BE. CHIEF, CAN I AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE NORTHERN PART OF TOWN OR THE GROWTH AREA? THE SOUTHERN PART. SO THE BOTH BUT THE NUMBER ONE NEED IS THE NORTHERN PART OF TOWN. THAT WAS WHAT THE STUDY SAID NEEDED TO BE DONE NOW AND THEN FIVE YEARS WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THE SOUTHERN PART.

SO IF THIS PLAYS OUT RIGHT, WE WORK ON THE NORTHERN PART, AND ONCE WE GET THAT COMPLETED, THEN I'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU AND SAY, HEY, IT'S TIME TO START LOOKING AT THE SOUTHERN PART OF TOWN. THANK YOU. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. OKAY. MAY I HAVE A QUESTION? I'M SORR.

COUNCILWOMAN CHISHOLM HAS A QUESTION. I HAD TWO QUESTIONS. WELL, ONE COMMENT AND ONE QUESTION. SO I THIS WAS BROUGHT UP TO OUR CONGRESSWOMAN, CROCKETT'S OFFICE. AND BECAUSE THEY HAVE COMMUNITY PROJECT FUNDING, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHE ECHOED, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PROJECT FOR HER OFFICE TO CHAMPION WITH APPROPRIATIONS TO HELP GET THE FUNDING FOR A NEW FIRE STATION. SHE ECHOED THAT SHE HAD DONE THIS FOR ANOTHER CITY. SO I KNOW THAT WE MISSED THE DEADLINE THIS YEAR, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT NEXT YEAR THAT THAT IS PRIORITIZED. AND MY SECOND THING IS THAT, AND THIS IS MORE SO, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THIS AS A FUTURE CONSIDERATION, BUT I THINK IT DEFINITELY SHOULD BE. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF TOURING THE FIRE STATION THAT'S LOCATED ON COCKRELL HILL AND PLEASANT RUN, AND I ENCOURAGE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES TO DO THE SAME. IT'S LOCATED IN PLASTICS. IT IS ALSO A ONE THAT'S HEAVILY USED BECAUSE IT SITS ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE CITY. SO OTHER CITIES MAY NEED OUR ASSISTANCE. SOMETIMES THE CONDITION OF THAT FACILITY IS WAS A I WAS TAKEN BACK. I COULD NOT BELIEVE THAT OUR HEROES ARE SITTING IN WHAT THAT IN IN SUBSTANDARD LIVING CONDITIONS AS IT EXISTS. AND SO I WAS REALLY SHOCKED AND I SEE THAT. BUT WE DO NEED TO MAKE FUNDING TO GET IT. I MEAN, THE KITCHEN, IT HAS DOORS FALLING OFF OF IT. I KNOW I SAW IT, IT JUST LOOKS VERY BAD. I CAN'T SAY IT ENOUGH. IT'S VERY, VERY BAD.

AND WE NEED TO DEFINITELY EXPEDITE GETTING THOSE CONDITIONS AND CREATING FUNDING TO GET THAT, GET IT UP TO DATE, AT LEAST TO SOME STANDARDS THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SLEEP IN.

YEAH. AND TO, COUNCILWOMAN CHISHOLM'S POINT. SO IF Y'ALL REMEMBER BACK IN 19, 2019, WE ACTUALLY STARTED THE REMODEL PROCESS FOR FIRE STATION NUMBER THREE, AND THEN COVID HIT AND THEN EVERYTHING KIND OF GOT DELAYED. AND THEN PRICES WENT THROUGH THE ROOF. WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE FUNDING, AND WE ARE ADDRESSING STATION THREE THIS YEAR THROUGH MONEY. THAT WAS SET ASIDE WAY BACK IN 2019 TO DO THE REMODEL ON STATION THREE. SO WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS AND START WORKING ON THAT. AND THIS THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR. SO THAT STATION IS ONE OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES OF GETTING IT MORE LIVABLE FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS OUT THERE, BECAUSE IT'S IT WAS NEEDING REMODELS BACK IN, 19. AND WE'RE IN 24 AND WE'VE WE'VE JUST KIND OF BEEN PUTTING BAND-AIDS ON. BUT THAT IS TOP PRIORITY THIS YEAR. IT'S OUR MONEY'S ALREADY THERE AND WE'RE ALREADY MOVING ON GETTING THAT ONE FIXED UP. WHAT FUNDING IS THAT COMING OUT OF OUR ACCOUNT? THAT IS A REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE THAT DOUBLED KNOW THAT'S COMING OUT OF ONE OF OUR, OUR, PUBLIC, FACILITIES FUNDS FOR 86, WHERE WE, DEPOSITED BOND FUNDS ABOUT PROBABLY, WHAT, TWO YEARS AGO? YEAH, PROBABLY. SO SO WE DON'T ACTUALLY SEE IT ON THERE UNDER THEIR BUDGET TODAY? NO, IT'S NOT UNDER THERE. IT'S IN A DIFFERENT FUND. OKAY I THINK. YEAH. MORE SPECIFICALLY, I THINK SHE'S IT'S RIGHT WHERE FOR 407 WAS. YES. UNDER YES. I'M SORRY. IS IT IN CAPITAL. YEAH. IT'S UNDER. YOU GAVE US THE TAB YESTERDAY, FIVE 1526 515. NO. PAGE 1526 UNDER, OTHER, OTHER FUNDS. YES. YES.

EXACTLY THAT'S THAT'S WHERE IT IS, COUNCILWOMAN. THANK YOU. AGE QUESTION. RELATED TO, STAFFING.

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COUNCIL, AS WE PREPARE THE BUDGET, DIRECTOR, MAYOR AND I ALONG WITH, STAFF, YOU KNOW, WE WERE MINDFUL OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD AT THE WINTER RETREAT WHEN WE WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE IMPACT OF SENATE BILL TWO AND ALL OF THAT. AND WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, YOU KNOW, CRIME, CRIME PREVENTION, PROGRAM THROUGH, FIRE PREVENTION AND ALL THAT DISTRICTS, SHOULD I SAY, AND THE DIRECTIVE THAT WE RECEIVED WAS TO LOOK AT CUTS AND SO THAT'S THE WAY WE APPROACH THE BUDGET. SO WE DIDN'T APPROACH THE BUDGET WITH ADDING ANY PERSONNEL, PER SE, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE WERE GOING TO WIND UP TAX. YOU KNOW, TAXABLE VALUE WISE. SO THAT IS WHY THE BUDGET WAS PREPARED THE WAY IT IS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE STAFFING THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND NOT YOU'RE NOT LOSING ANYBODY BUT MAINTAINING WHAT WE HAVE. AND PRESENT COUNCIL WITH A BALANCED BUDGET. SO, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET THE OTHER INFORMATION IN FROM IN TERMS OF OUR TAXES AND THINGS, THE TAX RATE AND TAX TAXABLE VALUES, AND MAYBE WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE WE HAVE. BUT THAT IS WHY YOU SEE THE BUDGET PREPARED THE WAY IT WAS PREPARED WITH NO ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL ADDED. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT.

SO THEN OUR METHODOLOGY FOR MOVING FORWARD, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AT WHAT POINT, WHAT'S OUR TRIGGER POINT. SO TH WHAT IS THE IF NEXT YEAR YOU'RE SAYING, HEY, WE NEED 15. I GUESS THAT'S A WISH LIST. WAS THAT A WISH LIST NUMBER? I KNOW THAT'S A NEED. SO IT'S A NEED AND A WISH LIST. BUT YOU CAN'T HIRE. SO WHEN YOU IF YOU START LOOKING AT ANOTHER FIRE STATION, YOU CAN'T HIRE ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS AT ONCE. ONE YOU GOT TRAINING AND TWO, THE COST IS TOO COST PROHIBITIVE. SO YOU GOTTA IF YOU. I'M SORRY TO CUT YOU, YOU'RE FINE. BUT IF WE. SO LET'S JUST SAY WE DON'T GET A FIRE STATION. WE STILL HAVE 11,000 CALLS THIS YEAR, AND YOU'RE PROJECTING 12,000 CALLS. SO OUR TRIGGER POINT NOW OR OUR METHODOLOGY FOR NEXT YEAR GOING FORWARD, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S AND WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT CUTS, I THINK IT WAS I DON'T I'M MORE THAN CERTAIN THAT WE WERE CLEAR ABOUT, NON-ESSENTIAL VERSUS YOU KNOW, ESSENTIAL. AND EVERYONE AT EVERY ROLE IS ESSENTIAL, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, BUT I'M JUST WANTING TO UNDERSTAND THE METHODOLOGY AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, IS THERE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN COMING UP FOR 25, 26? THERE WILL BE, THERE WILL BE WHERE OUR BUDGET IS, LIKE MOST MOST OTHER CITIES, IS

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I DO APPRECIATE THAT I REALLY DO, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY WONDERING ABOUT THE SENATE BILL TWO AND WHEN WE WERE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THAT IN THESE TALKS, AND, AND, AND ALSO, THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN CHISHOLM, I ACTUALLY DID GO BY AND VISIT, THAT STATION, AND THEN YOU AND I SPOKE ABOUT THAT STATION, AND I WAS A LITTLE APPALLED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A STATION THAT IS NOT REALLY COED. SO I KNOW THERE IS A NEED, I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED IT, YOU KNOW, UP TILL NOW. AND SO, I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION ABOUT YOUR BEYOND, THE 15 FIREFIGHTERS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE HAVEN'T REALLY WE HAVEN'T REALLY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE OR MAY LOSE. SO THE 15 IS IN ADDITION TO ON TOP OF. BUT YOU MAY LOSE SOME. SO THE 15 WILL HAVE TO TAKE THOSE. SOME OF THOSE 15 MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE THOSE SPOTS. SO WE'RE BACK AT AT A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE STILL UNDERSTAFFED. IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY. SO IS THAT A PART OF MAYBE THIS THOUGHT PROCESS. SO YEAH, THIS IS 15 ADDITIONAL, ASSIGNED OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE BUDGETED THAT WE WILL NEED TO MOVE TO A NEW STATION. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, PROJECTING FORWARD HOW MANY PEOPLE WE PLAN TO LOSE IN RAISING THAT NUMBER TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COVERING WHAT WE'RE LOSING AND GETTING THEM TRAINED IN TIME BECAUSE WE OUR BIGGEST ISSUE IS THE LAG TIME IN TRAINING. RIGHT. WE'RE FIXING TO HAVE A NEW HIGHER EXAM IN AUGUST AND, WE'LL HIRE NEW FIREFIGHTERS. AND THEN WE START THE PROCESS OF TRAINING THEM. AND SO I'M ALREADY DOWN, FOUR.

I'M FIXING TO LOSE ONE TO, WAXAHATCHEE NEXT MONTH. SO THAT'LL DROP ME DOWN FOUR FIREFIGHTERS. SO WE'LL REHIRE THOSE FAST, AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO WAIT A YEAR AND A HALF TO GET THEM ALL TRAINED UP AND BACK IN. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK. OKAY. MY QUESTION RELATED TO THE, TO THE RENOVATION WORK ON COCKRELL HILL BECAUSE I WAS HERE WHEN THAT WHOLE DISCUSSION CAME AND HOW WE'RE NOT COED AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. SO WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY IS THAT SOME NDING WAS SET ASIDE, I GUESS, IN A SUBSEQUENT YEAR. AND SO THAT THOSE FUNDS HAVE BEEN BASICALLY IN SAVINGS. ITHAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND? YES MA'AM. OKAY. AND SO WITH THE MONEY BEING IN SAVINGS, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, THOSE FUNDS WERE BEING INVESTED AND DO HOW DOES THAT WORK? DO WE GET INTEREST INCOME AFTER THAT FOR THAT. AND THEN DOES THAT INTEREST GO TO THE TO THE FUND OR THE PART THAT IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH? YES. IT DOES. YES. WE INVEST THOSE FUNDS IF WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE SPENT RIGHT AWAY. OKAY HOW MUCH. THIS IS A THIS IS A TOMORROW QUESTION. THIS IS AN EMAIL QUESTION. I'M CURIOUS AS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE FUNDS HAVE ACCUMULATED. AND ARE WE HAVING TO PUT ADDITIONAL FUNDS BECAUSE OF THE COST? YOU SAID THE COST HAVE GONE UP AND SO DO WE HAVE ENOUGH TO COVER IT BASED OFF IT'S GROWING, OR DID WE HAVE TO ADD ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO IT FROM WHAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2019? I DON'T, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH, ENERGY SAVING GRANTS ON THIS FIRE STATION RIGHT HERE. AND SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AND I BELIEVE WITH THAT AND WHAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE AND WHAT WE NEED DONE TO BRING THAT

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THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. CHIEF, I SEE NO OTHER LIGHTS YOU CAN CONTINUE. AND THAT THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. OH. THAT'S IT. I THINK THAT'S IT. I DON'T THINK I MEAN, I'LL STAND UP HERE AND STILL TALK TO YOU IF YOU DON'T TALK. YOU ENDED UP ON A HIGH NOTE, CHIEF. YOU GIVE US SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES MA'AM.

OKAY, NEXT, WE HAVE MUNICIPAL COURT. THEIR PROPOSED BUDGET IS $992,271. AND GIVING A PRESENTATION IS JUDGE KURT. WHAT PAGE IS THAT ON? MR. I'M SORRY, SIX 689 690 TO 91 OKAY. COUNCIL YOU CAN TURN TO SIX 9691 GOOD MORNING. JUDGE.

OKAY, OKAY, OVERVIEW OF THE SERVICES PROVIDED, WE SEEK TO PROVIDE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL JUSTICE, ENSURE EQUAL ACCESS VIA IN-PERSON AND THROUGH ZOOM, WE'RE DOING MORE AND MORE ZOOM, DO ALL THE JAIL BY ZOOM. I SIGNED SEARCH WARRANTS, 24 OVER SEVEN, VIA ZOOM. AND ACTUALLY, I'M BEGINNING TO SEE MORE PEOPLE ON ZOOM THAN I AM IN PERSON IN THE COURT, DAY TO DAY, WE HOLD AN OPEN DOCKET EVERY DAY, FIVE DAYS A WEEK, I ALSO SERVE AS THE MAGISTRATE FOR THE TRI CITIES JAIL, WHICH INCLUDES DUNCANVILLE, DESOTO, LANCASTER, CEDAR HILL, GLENN HEIGHTS, AND, THE, CEDAR HILL STATE PARK. AND THE NORTH TEXAS COLLEGE DISTRIC, AND ALSO METHODIST HOSPITAL DISTRICT, WE HAVE THE DRIVE LEGAL PROGRAM, WHICH ASSISTS PEOPLE IN GETTING DRIVER'S LICENSES, WE RUN ABOUT 394 PEOPLE A YEAR THAT WE PROVIDE THAT I PROVIDE SERVICES TO BY WAY OF INFORMATION FORMS. JUST GENERAL COUNSEL AS TO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO GET THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE, WE ALSO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CARE TEAM AND OUR DIVERSION COURT THROUGH, CLASS C MISDEMEANORS TO, BASICALLY GET THEM ASSISTANCE, GET THEM HELP SO THAT THEY'RE NOT THEIR PROBLEMS DON'T GET WORSE, AND WE CAN SEE THEIR CASES GET DISMISSED. AND WE DON'T HAVE CONSTANT REPETITIVE, CRIMES BEING COMMITTED BY THESE FOLKS. ALSO, THAT'S NOT ON THE ON THE CHART. I PROVIDE CASE BRIEFS TO EDUCATE THE POLICE CITY COUNCIL, IF YOU CARE TO READ THEM, AND CITY STAFF ON CURRENT LAW, BELIEVING THAT THE MORE EDUCATED OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ON THE CURRENT STATE OF THE LAW, THAT THEY WILL BETTER SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. HIGHLIGHTING MAJOR BUDGET CHANGES, WE HAVE NO MAJOR PURCHASES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025.

WE ARE SEEKING A RECLASSIFICATION TO NAME A LEAD BOND CLERK AT THE JAIL. WE HAVE THREE BOND CLERKS THAT COVER, WE HAVE A, ONE COMES IN AT 431, COMES IN, AND WE DO OUR ARRAIGNMENTS AT OUR MAGISTRATE HEARINGS, BEGINNING BETWEEN 5 AND 5, 36 DAYS A WEEK. AND THEN ON SUNDAY, USUALLY WE DO IT AT ABOUT 630 IN THE MORNING. AND I NEED A I NEED A LEAD CLERK WHO HAS SOME AUTHORITY OVER THERE TO SCHEDULE TO WATCH OPERATIONS. IF THERE'S AN ERROR, I CAN'T HAVE ERRORS. I CANNOT HAVE ERRORS. IF WE HAVE AN ERROR, SOMEBODY COULD GET ARRESTED. SO WE'RE TALKING

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NOW DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION. NOT SO FAST. JUDGE HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU SEE THROUGH YOUR COURTS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU SEE THROUGH YOUR COURTS ANNUALLY OR THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR AND THEN HOW MANY PEOPLE DOES YOUR MARSHAL SERVE IN, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE? OKAY, THE LOOK ON YOUR FACE, I'M TRYING TO TRYING TO I KNOW THAT WE SEE. SO LET ME JUST START WITH THAT. I'LL STOP RIGHT THERE. I PRE-COVID, WE SAW ABOUT 7200 PEOPLE IN IN THE JAIL POST-COVID, THE NUMBERS ARE STARTING TO CLIMB BACK UP. THIS LAST YEAR, I THINK I SAW 4600 PEOPLE THROUGH THE JAIL AND THEN I'LL SEE. WELL, WE HAVE. I HAVE NO IDEA. WE HAVE ABOUT 7000.

YEAH, WE HAVE 7000 CASES FILED THIS YEAR. SO, THAT'S AN ILLUSORY NUMBER BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE HAVE THREE AND FOUR TICKETS. SOME PEOPLE HAVE ONE. SO, COUNCIL MEMBER, I JUST ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW THE ACTUAL NUMBER. IF YOU NEED THAT, I WILL GET THAT TO YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND FOR THE MARSHAL, WAS THAT NUMBER IN THERE. SO HOW MANY PEOPLE DOES THE MARSHAL SERVE IN? TELL ME WHAT THE MARSHAL DOES. THE MARSHAL SERVES OUR COURT PROCESSES OUR SUMMONS.

HE MAKES CONTACTS TO COLLECT ON OUR OUTSTANDING WARRANTS AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE ON CAPIAS PRO FIND WARRANTS, MEANING THEY'VE BEEN CONVICTED AND NAILED MONEY. MARSHAL ALSO MAKES CONTACTS WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECEIVED A CITATION. BEAR IN MIND THAT EVERY FOR EVERY 100 PEOPLE THAT THAT RECEIVE A CITATION ROUGHLY 10 TO 15 WILL SHOW UP. SO THE IDEA IS THAT THE MARSHAL GETS THESE NUMBERS, GETS THESE TICKETS, THESE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T SHOW UP AND CONTACTS THEM AND ENCOURAGES THEM TO COME TO COURT AS OPPOSED TO BEING ARRESTED ON THEIR WAY HOME FROM WORK ONE DAY, AND WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS THIS PARTICULAR MARSHAL, HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY, AND WE HAVE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN DISPOSITIONS. ALSO HE ACTS AS COURT BAILIFF, HE ALSO HE ALSO COMES IN ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS AT BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX TO SIGN

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YOU MENTIONED THAT YOUR VEHICLE PURCHASE WAS DUE TO THE WEAR AND TEAR OF THE VEHICLE. I KNOW IN ALMONDS, THEY BASE IT ON AGING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IS THIS AN OLDER VEHICLE? IS THAT WHY IT'S REPLACED OR IT'S AN ACCIDENT AND IT'S BEING REPLACED? AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION FOR YOU IS THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE DOING MORE ZOOM CALLS, WHICH MEANS THAT YOUR COURTROOM HAS NOW BECOME LIKE A VIRTUAL COURTROOM. RIGHT. AND FROM A PUBLIC, BECAUSE ONE OF OUR BUSINESS, ON OUR, STRATEGIC PLAN IS TRANSPARENCY AND TRUST. SO FROM I KNOW DALLAS

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AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR NAME ON THE ON THEIR PORTRAIT, THEN I DON'T TALK TO THEM. I PUT THEM AT THE VERY END, IN OTHER WORDS, ON THE ZOOM PORT ON THE ZOOM PORTRAIT OF ON THE GALLERY, YOU PUT YOUR NAME IF YOUR NAME IS ON THERE, THEN I WILL PUT YOU IN THE QUEUE TO TALK TO YOU. IF YOU'RE JUST AN OBSERVER AND YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR NAME THERE AND YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR CAMERA ON, THEN I DON'T. I DON'T REACH THEM UNTIL GENERALLY THE END OF THE PROCESS. SO I WOULD SAY WE'RE VERY TRANSPARENT AS YOU CAN BE IF YOU WANT TO GET ON AND WATCH WHAT'S GOING ON, HOP ON AND THAT'S USUALLY FROM ANYWHERE FROM 1030 TO, I RUN OUT OF PEOPLE AND THAT USUALLY IS BETWEEN 130 AND 2 30 OR 3. USUALLY USUALLY LATER ON THURSDAYS. BECAUSE THAT'S OUR SHOW. CAUSE DOCKET WHEN PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T PAID OR NEED EXTENSIONS OR A MYRIAD NUMBER OF REASONS THEY WANT TO TALK TO ME. AND THAT IS A VERY LARGE DOCKET, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN CONCENTRATING ON, TO THE CREDIT OF OUR COURT MANAGER, CONCENTRATING ON ISSUING OUTSTANDING FAILURE TO APPEAR VIOLATION PROMISE TO APPEAR CASES, WHEN PEOPLE JUST IGNORE US AND DON'T HONOR THE CITATION THAT THEY PROMISED TO APPEAR ON. AND SO WE'VE ISSUED A BUNCH OF THOSE WHICH HAS, QUITE FRANKLY, HAS HELPED, I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE REVENUE, BUT WE HAVE, BY VIRTUE OF THE HARD WORK OF OUR COURT MANAGER, MISS MULLINS, WHO'S WITH ME TODAY, AND I SUPPOSE ME TO THE EXTENT THAT I'M PROCESSING ALL OF THESE CASES, WE EXCEEDED THE BUDGET PROJECTION THIS YEAR, SUBSTANTIALLY. SO I'M, I'M GRATIFIED THAT WE HAVE THAT MANY CASE DISPOSITIONS. AND ON THE CAR, WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION ON THE CAR? WHY ARE WE NEED TO REPLACE THE CAR? THE CAR IS 2017. IT HAS BEEN, IT HAS BEEN USED DAILY AND IT'S GONE IN FOR REPAIRS. WE'VE WE'VE TRIED TO KEEP UP WITH THE REPAIRS, IT'S JUST IT'S JUST TIME TO, GET ANOTHER VEHICLE IF WE CAN. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. THANK YOU, JUDGE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REGIONAL ASPECT OF WHAT YOU DO, WHERE DO WE SEE THE TRANSFER, CAN YOU REMIND US OF WHAT? WHAT CITY PARTICIPATES IN THE REGIONAL JUDGE ARE OUR JAIL, AND THEN WHAT ALLOCATIONS ARE WE CURRENTLY CHARGING THEM, WE HAVE AN, ER, LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH, CEDAR HILL, DUNCANVILLE, GLENN HEIGHTS. I'M SORRY. DUNCANVILLE CEDAR HILL, LANCASTER. GLENN HEIGHTS AND THESE SMALLER AGENCIES THAT COME IN, THERE'S A USUALLY THEY CHARGE THEM A PER DIEM. GLENN HEIGHTS IS HAS THEY'RE NOT A FULL PARTNER, BUT THEY PAY ROUGHLY $40,000 A YEAR FOR SERVICES, MAGISTRATE SERVICES AND JAILING SERVICES AT THE JAIL. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER, WHAT ABOUT CEDAR HILL AND THOSE OTHER PLACES AND WHERE THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR MR. CORMIER. WHAT WOULD I FIND THAT IN THE BUDGET AND WHEN WE WHEN OUR EXPENSES INCREASE, ARE WE ALSO INCREASING THE ALLOCATION? HOW OFTEN HAVE WE GONE BACK TO THEM? IS AND SAID, YOU KNOW, IF COST ACTUALLY DOES HE DOES HANDLE THAT. AND HE LOOKS AT THAT. HE LOOKS AT THAT ANNUALLY, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INCREASED COSTS, INITIALLY I WAS PAID.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME SINCE I WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST MAGISTRATE WHEN THE JAIL OPENED OVER 20 YEARS AGO. AND I WAS PAID LIKE A PER DIEM RATE THAT EVERYBODY CONTRIBUTED TO. WELL, THAT GOT WHEN I CAME ON FULL TIME IN 2013, THAT WAS FOLDED INTO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

THAT KIND OF ENCAPSULATED EVERYTHING. THERE'S ONE FEE THAT'S CHARGED. AND FOR THAT I PROVIDE, 24 OVER SEVEN SERVICES FOR SEARCH WARRANTS, BECAUSE WE'RE A COURT OF RECORD. I SIGNED EVIDENTIARY SEARCH WARRANTS, BLOOD WARRANTS, I ACT AS A BACKUP FOR ANYBODY OUT HERE. JUDGE, CAN I STOP YOU THERE? AND I I'M SURE I KNOW. I KNOW YOUR REPUTATION. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. I'M MORE PARTICULAR. I'M MORE INTERESTED IN THE NUMBERS. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS THAT EACH CONTRIBUTES, THAT EACH CONTRIBUTE, AND WHERE

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SO THANK YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I THINK YOU INITIATED THE DRIVER LICENSE PROGRAM I DID. COULD YOU SHARE WITH US HOW THAT'S GOING, VERY BRIEFLY, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE IN TEXAS, YOU CAN'T LIVE. YOU CAN'T GET A JOB, YOU CAN'T KEEP A JOB. IF YOU GET A JOB AND YOU CAN'T PROVIDE FOR YOUR FAMILY, IT IS FOUNDATIONAL IN FACT, IT'S SO FOUNDATIONAL THAT I'VE TALKED TO, MISS LEDBETTER, FORMER COUNCILMAN PATRICIA LEDBETTER, AND TALKED WITH HER ABOUT IT. AND I'VE ACTUALLY TALKED TO OUR STATE REP, WE HAVE PEOPLE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT I SEE IS PEOPLE GET OUT OF PRISON AND THEY DON'T HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE. SO THEY CAN'T GET A JOB. AND IF YOU'RE A FELON, THEY WON'T HIRE YOU ON JUST ABOUT ANY JOB FOR FIVE YEARS. THEY WANT TO THEY WANT A RECORD OF LAW ABIDING BEHAVIOR.

MOST EMPLOYERS. SO WHAT I HAVE FOUND, BECAUSE I'M IN THIS, I DO THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY AND I SEE IT EVERY SINGLE DAY. YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN PRISON FOR THE LOVE OF HUMANITY. GET THEM A DRIVER'S LICENSE BEFORE YOU RELEASE THEM FROM PRISON. GIVE THEM. HAVE THEM TAKE THE TEST. GIVE THEM A CLASS. GET THEM AN ACTUAL DRIVER'S LICENSE. WHEN YOU HAND THEM THEIR TDC CARD, HAND THEM THEIR TEXAS DRIVER'S LICENSE AS WELL SO THAT WHEN THEY GET OUT, THE FIRST THING THEY CAN DO IS GO DOWN TO ONE OF THESE COMMERCIAL TRUCK DRIVING SCHOOLS. WHO WILL HIRE THEM? WHO WILL HIRE THEM OUT OF PRISON? A LOT OF THESE FOLKS HAVE ANTISOCIAL TENDENCIES, NOT EVERYONE, BUT A NUMBER OF THEM. AND THEY DO WELL IN COMMERCIAL TRUCK DRIVING BECAUSE THEY'RE ISOLATED. THEY'RE ON THE ROAD. THEY CAN MAKE MONEY, THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILY, AND THEIR LOVED ONES, WHICH IS ALSO A PROBLEM BECAUSE IF THEY FATHERED 2 OR 3 KIDS AND THEY'RE NOT WORKING, THEN THE KIDS ARE NOT GETTING CHILD SUPPORT. THIS WHOLE THING JUST GOES ON AND ON. SO I MADE THE SUGGESTION. I'M WILLING TO. I'VE BEEN WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES. I JUST DON'T HAVE THE, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPONSOR TO PUSH THIS OBVIOUS, OBVIOUSLY LOGICAL SOLUTION TO A HUGE PROBLEM. THE OTHER THING IS THEY CAN'T GET THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE BECAUSE MOST OF THEM, WHEN THEY GET OUT OF PRISON, THEY HAVE TO TAKE A 15 HOUR DRUG EDUCATION COURSE.

THEY'RE IN PRISON. GIVE THEM THE COURSE BEFORE YOU LET THEM OUT, BECAUSE WHEN THEY GET OUT, THEY DON'T HAVE A CAR. IF THEY HAVE A CAR, THEY'RE DRIVING ILLEGALLY, SO THEY'LL THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. THE PROBATION OR THE PAROLE OFFICERS DON'T, PARTICULARLY IN MY EXPERIENCE.

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THANK YOU. JUDGE COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER, THANK YOU, JUDGE, FOR THAT. PRESENTATION AND THE WORK THAT YOU DO. I, I DID WANT TO ASK A QUESTION. AND THEN YOU SPARKED ANOTHER ONE, THE QUESTION I REALLY HAD WAS ABOUT THE ACTUAL BUDGET. SO LET ME ASK THAT QUESTION FIRST, AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT LAST QUESTION ON THE ACTUAL, BUDGET. IT SHOWS MISCELLANEOUS. I'M SORRY, OTHER CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT ON THE LEDGER, IT SHOWS AS LIGHT SYSTEMS. IT'S OPEN. GOT LIGHT WAS, LASSETER TRAN 20 YEARS AGO, ALTA LASSETER WROTE THE PROGRAM THAT WAS PURCHASED BY OPENGOV AND THOSE OF US, IT'S JUST WE JUST HAVE ALWAYS REFERRED TO IT AS LIGHT. IT'S REALLY IT'S REALLY OPENGOV. NOW THEY THEY'VE CHANGED THE FORMAT. SO. BUT THE REASON I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION, BECAUSE IT WENT FROM 1068 UP TO 36, AND THEN NOW IT'S AT 36, 750. AND I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY IS THERE SUCH A HUGE WHEN, WHEN THEY SOLD WHEN, WHEN ALTA LASSETER SOLD HIS INTEREST TO OPENGOV, OPENGOV WAS TRYING TO BECOME THE NEXT ENCODE. ENCODE RIGHT NOW IS RECOGNIZED AS THE PREMIERE SOFTWARE. THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO BRING THAT UP, TO OFFER ALL THE MODULES THAT ENCODE DOES AND SO THEY HAVE THEY HAVE STRIVEN, TOWARD A ON CLOUD BASED SERVICE, WHICH IS THE STATE OF THE ART, WHICH IS WHAT ENCODE OFFERS. BUT, THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT. BUT WHEN THEY TOOK OVER, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO RECOUP THEIR, THE MONEY THEY PAID OUT TO BUY THE SOFTWARE. SO THEY RAISE THE I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I, I WAS TOLD. SO THE REASON THAT I'M ASKING THE QUESTION IS WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF TECHNOLOGY AND THAT'S VERY MUCH SOMETHING I LOVE TO TALK ABOUT.

BUT I DO WANT TO KNOW, HAVE WE AS FAR AS THE OTHER CITIES ARE CONCERNED, EVERY CITY HAS MUNICIPAL COURTS. DOES DO THEY ALL USE THE SAME SOFTWARE? IS IS THERE OKAY. THEY DON'T USE THE SAME SOFTWARE. LANCASTER, LANCASTER USES, THEY USE OUR SOFTWARE, CEDAR HILL. I'M NOT SURE I'M PRETTY SURE? YEAH. LIGHT YEAH. RED OAK USES ENCODE. FERRIS. FERRIS. USES, LIGHT OR OPENGOV. YEAH. AND SO WITH THAT, THE FACT THAT THE OTHER COURTS DO USE SIMILAR THERE IS THERE A INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT ALREADY IN PLACE FOR THE DIFFERENT COURT SYSTEMS THAT USE THE EXACT SAME? I MEAN, IS THERE ANY CONTRACTUAL THINGS? THERE'S NO THAT'S ACTUALLY I MEAN, THAT IDEA ACTUALLY, I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. MAYBE IF EVERYBODY BANDED TOGETHER WE COULD GET ENCODE TO GO SUPER ENCODE IS IT IS EXPENSIVE. IT IS. IT IS THE CADILLAC OF. OH, ABSOLUTELY. I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN, BUT I MEAN, I JUST I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION ONLY BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF HOW WE GET OTHER THINGS, WHEN WE SPEND MONEY ON THINGS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY LESSEN BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT EVERYBODY'S USING SOME OF THE SAME SIMILAR THINGS, IT JUST MAKES SENSE FOR US TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE CITIES THAT ARE, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT ARE SURROUNDING US. THEY ALL USE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME STUFF. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WAS, YOU SPARKED A QUESTION. WE WERE SAYING THESE PEOPLE COME IN THREE AND THREE, THREE, TWO AND THREE TIMES. TO DO THE SAME THING IS THAT PART OF THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? YOU LOOK AT IT AND YOU DON'T KNOW IT DOESN'T CARE HOW MANY TIMES YOU SEE THAT PERSON THAT'S CONSIDERED ONE TIME OR ONE CASE BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID A FEW MINUTES AGO, YOU SAID THEY COME IN OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO GET WELL. I'LL HAVE PEOPLE COME IN. I HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY. I'M I'M THE JUDGE. AND TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MEANS THEY CAN COME IN AND ASK ME QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR PROBATE OR THEIR THEIR, EVICTION, AND THEY'LL JUST SHOW UP AND, OR THEY'LL GET ONLINE AND ASK QUESTIONS. AND SO I, I ASSIST THEM WITHOUT GETTING, WITHOUT GIVING SPECIFIC LEGAL ADVICE. I ASSIST THEM THE BEST I CAN SO I DON'T KEEP TRACK OF I DON'T SEE IF I SEE THEM ON ZOOM. I'LL MAKE A NOTE, YOU KNOW, ZOOM CALLS AND MISS MULLINS WILL

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COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YES. OF COURSE THERE IS. HOW ARE YOU DOING? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DO. YOU KNOW, I DO, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ACTUAL COMPUTER SOFTWARE, THE COMPUTER SOFTWARE IS SHOWING ON HERE THAT IT WENT TO 13.5, AND I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT A COMPUTER SOFTWARE, IS THAT COMING? IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN THE COMPUTER SOFTWARE THAT THE IT DEPARTMENT HAS? IS A DIFFERENT CONTRACT AND EVERYTHING? YES SO THE COMPUTER SOFTWARE, WHAT COMES OUT OF THERE IS ALL OF OUR VISIONWARE SOFTWARE, WHICH IS OUR PRINT MANAGEMENT, AND LIKE I SAID, OUR COLLECTION SECURITY, AND ALSO READ SQUARED. SO THAT'S WHAT WE USE FOR OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAM TO, TO REGISTER. OKAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER BARAKA, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? YES. OKAY. I'M SORRY. YES. MY QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT. YOU ALL DO. YOU DO GREAT WORK, BUT WANTED TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE TRIGGERS FOR, REFRESHING THE LIBRARY, THE LIBRARY SPACE ITSELF. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. AND IF IT'S LOCATED ANYWHERE IN THE BUDGET. YES. SO WE ARE ACTUALLY PLANNING ON DOING SOME REMODELING IN THE LIBRARY, AND THERE ARE, FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED FOR THAT. AND TRACY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, TALK ABOUT THAT REAL QUICK. YES THERE WERE FUNDS THAT WERE PUT AWAY PROBABLY ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO FOR A PHASE ONE AND TWO OF RENOVATIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER WHEN WE DID THE OUTSIDE IN THE FRONT, AND THEN THOSE FUNDS WERE REMAINING. WE WENT THROUGH A DIRECTOR, A PAST DIRECTOR DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO IT, AND HEATHER AND I DISCUSSED IT PROBABLY A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND SHE'S COMING UP WITH A PLAN SO WE CAN START WORKING ON PHASE TWO. WHERE CAN I FIND THAT? IN THE BUDGET? IT'S IN OUR, PUBLIC. IT WON'T BE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET IS IN THE 24 BUDGET HAS A PROJECT IN OUR PUBLIC FACILITY. FUND FOR 86. OKAY, SO IS THAT.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU IS THERE IS THERE A POSSIBILITY WE CAN ASK BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE KEEP HEARING IS IN THIS BUDGET OR IT'S IN THAT IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT CAN BE CONSOLIDATED INTO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN GET THAT ALL THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. YOU OKAY? YOU WEREN'T ON. COULD YOU BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC, THOUGH, IN TERMS OF WHAT INFORMATION YOU'RE LOOKING TO BE CONSOLIDATED SO THAT STAFF CAN HAVE DIRECTION ON WHAT EXACTLY THE ASK IS? OKAY SO JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO WE WERE ON FIRE AND IT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THERE WAS FUNDS THAT WERE NOT USED IN 2019, AND THEN NOW WE HAVE THIS SAYING THERE WAS SOME THERE'S FUNDS AVAILABLE IN, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS 20. WHAT WAS THE DATE THAT, THAT THOSE WHATEVER FUNDS SHE'S TALKING ABOUT FOR THE REFRESH. WHERE ARE THOSE FUNDS. WHERE IS THAT? YOU WON'T FIND THEM. YOU WON'T FIND THEM IN OUR PROPOSED BUDGET. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS WAS WHEN THOSE FUNDS COME AVAILABLE, WE SET UP PROJECTS. SO THOSE PROJECTS, WHEN ALL THE FUNDS ARE NOT SPENT, THEY ROLL OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR. SO YOU WON'T SEE THEM IN THE CURRENT PROPOSED BUDGET.

OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO ASK FOR. YEAH. CAN WE SEE A COLLECTIVE LIST OF PROPOSED PROJECTS OR ROLLED OVER? YES YES WE CAN. YES. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MISS MCCARTHY. I SEE NO MORE LIGHTS. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT, WHICH INCLUDES SERVICES AND GIS SYSTEM. THE TOTAL PROPOSED BUDGET IS 2.8 MILLION. AND MAKING THAT PRESENTATION IS DIRECTOR TOM FEIGER. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. OKAY, THIS SLIDE BASICALLY SAYS THAT IT TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHIN.

WE DO HAVE A PRIMARY NETWORK HERE. AND, IF YOU CONSIDER KIND OF A HUB AND SPOKE PROGRAM, EVERYTHING ELSE IS BACKHAULED THROUGH OUR FIREWALL HERE AND THEN DISTRIBUTED TO THE INTERNET. SO ALL THE ALL THE CITY BUILDINGS, DEPARTMENTS, FACILITIES, EMPLOYEES. THAT ALL COMES UP THROUGH, OUR, OUR MAIN NETWORK HERE. WE TAKE CARE OF, FILE APPLICATION, WEB, EMAIL,

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DO YOUR JOB, COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I DO HAVE QUESTIONS. WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF THE OFFICE, 365, I'D LIKE TO KNOW BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY SEE AN INCREASE IN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, SO I WANT TO KNOW, DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE HAVE ON ON STAFF PEOPLE WHO WILL BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT, OFFICE 365? MY SECOND QUESTION TO OFFICE 365, WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF TEAMS AND SHAREPOINT, IS OFFICE 365 NOT ALL INCLUSIVE? WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IN THE INCREASE, ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT PART OF IT? AND THEN ANOTHER PART AT A DIFFERENT TIME? IS THAT WHAT THIS IS SAYING? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE BEYOND FISCAL YEAR 25. AND THEN THE THIRD QUESTION I HAVE IS I DON'T SEE A LOT OF CERTIFICATIONS, OR CERTIFICATION PAY FOR IT INDIVIDUALS. AND I KNOW YEARLY IT HAS TO STAY ABREAST OF WHAT'S GOING ON, WHERE WHERE YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO THE CLOUD, HOW THE CLOUD WORKS. I DON'T SEE THE ACTUAL, CLOUD HOSTING COST, HERE. IS THAT SOMEWHERE IN THE BUDGET, MAYBE I MISSED IT. BUT THOSE ARE SOME OF MY QUESTIONS, SO IF YOU WANT TO. I'M SORRY. I HAD SO MANY, BUT IF YOU WANT TO START WITH, THE OFFICE 365, THE ANNUAL, SUBSCRIPTION, THE ALL INCLUSIVE, THAT SORT OF THING. RIGHT. SO THE FIRST QUESTION I THINK YOU HAD WAS REGARDING STAFFING. SO LET ME ATTACK THAT FIRST, I THINK THAT WITH THE, WITH THE, IT DEPARTMENT AS ITS STAFF TODAY, WE CAN DO THAT. WE HAVE HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THE IT DEPARTMENT JUST TOUGH THE ERP, IMPLEMENTATION AND THE WEBSITE IMPLEMENTATION, HOWEVER, THOSE SEEM THOSE HAVE STABILIZE, AND THE PROCESS OF UPGRADING SEEMS TO HAVE STABILIZED. SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ON A PRETTY GOOD TRACK WITH THOSE, THOSE TWO PROJECTS IN THEMSELVES. THE, WE HAVE A NETWORK CREW. I'VE GOT A NETWORK SECURITY ADMINISTRATOR AND A MANAGER OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE LEADING THIS, AND I THINK THAT THEY ARE UNIQUELY QUALIFIED FOR THIS KIND OF A PROJECT. SO I DON'T I DON'T SEE A HUGE NEED, TO INCREASE STAFF FOR THAT. THERE IS THERE THERE MIGHT BE SOME PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT WILL HAVE TO LEAN ON A LITTLE BIT WITH RESPECT TO JUST THE TRAINING, TO GET OUR CONSTITUENTS UP TO SPEED WITH

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OKAY SO THERE'S A LOT STILL THAT NEEDS TO BE KIND OF HASHED OUT IS WHAT I'M HEARING. WELL, YEAH, WE'VE BEEN HASHING FOR A LOT, MANY, MANY MONTHS. OKAY. SO, WE HAVE DETAILED SPREADSHEETS OF WHAT THESE COSTS ARE AND THE SUBSCRIPTION COST VERSUS THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES COST, WE'VE BEEN WORKING PRETTY HARD ON THAT, SO, I CAN GIVE THAT TO YOU SEPARATELY IF YOU WANT. SO THE MASS COST, THE MAX COST THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THIS BUDGET CHANGE IS 275 FOR THE FIRST YEAR. YES, MA'AM. AND THE REASON YOU SEE SOME SHAREPOINT TEAMS NEXT YEAR IS BECAUSE THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT, LOAD TO TAKE ON. SO WE'RE GOING TO GET EXCHANGE MOVED OVER AND EVERYBODY ON OFFICE AND GET THAT UP AND GOING. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BRING UP A STAND UP SHAREPOINT AND TEAMS OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU. AND STAFF LOOKED AT A FIVE YEAR MODEL. SO NOT CORRECT.

WE HAVE FIVE YEAR COSTS OUT OKAY. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL CHANGE ITSELF, IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT ANY OF WHAT WE JUST HEARD FROM THE ERP. IS IT TYLER TECHNOLOGIES. AND THEN THE COURT SYSTEMS USES TYLER TECHNOLOGIES. IS ANY OF THAT ALL GOING TO CLASH? IS THERE ANY IMPACT TO THOSE TWO SYSTEMS? THAT ARE BEING PUT IN PLACE AT THE EXACT SAME TIME THAT THIS SWITCH IS HAPPENING? NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU. SORRY THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER I SEE NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTS. TOM SO YOU ARE FREE TO ROAM ABOUT THE CABI? NO, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I'M SO SORRY I GOT CAUGHT UP IN THAT, THE PHYSICAL VERSUS VIRTUAL SECURITY PIECE, SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT PIECE. SO I JUST SAW THE LINE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND US FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT. AND OUR ARE OUR

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SECURITY, I AM ON PAGE SIX, DASH 89, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE INFO TECH SERVICES SECTION. BUT I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE PHYSICAL AND VIRTUAL SECURITY. AND SO MAYBE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS. SO IF YOU COULD JUST KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT OKAY. SO PHYSICAL SECURITY ARE DOORS BASICALLY. SO THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE PHYSICAL LOCKS ON THE DOORS. THE KEYCARD ACCESS, THE, THE CAMERAS, ALL THAT IS ENCAPSULATED IN THAT LINE ITEM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH DATA PRIVACY AND SECURITY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. CORRECT? OKAY AND DOES THAT LIVE ANYWHERE IN THE BUDGET OR IS THAT JUST BY NATURE IN, YOU KNOW, ENCAPSULATED IN SOMEONE'S ROLE? WE HAVE THAT AS A LINE ITEM IN OUR BUDGET. OKAY AND THEN MY QUESTION RELATED TO THAT WITHOUT KNOWING THAT SPECIFIC AMOUNT, BECAUSE I'M NOT LOOKING AT THAT PART RIGHT NOW, IS JUST UNDERSTANDING. ARE WE APPROPRIATELY FUNDED IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA AS IT RELATES TO SAFETY AND SECURITY FROM OUR FROM THE IT PERSPECTIVE, FOR OUR CITY? RIGHT. WELL, COUNCILPERSON PARKER MADE A GREAT POINT, AND THAT WAS WITH RESPECT TO TRAINING, WE DO WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE A NETWORK SECURITY ADMINISTRATOR WHOSE JOB REALLY, ALMOST LITERALLY FROM THE TIME HE GETS UP TO THE TIME HE GOES HOME AT NIGHT, IS THE SECURITY OF OUR FIREWALL. AND MONITORING TRAFFIC COMING AND GOING THROUGH OUR, SYSTEM. SO THAT, EXCUSE ME, THAT IS A SUBSTANTIAL, NEED THAT'S BEING ADDRESSED, AND HE IS HE DOES FREQUENTLY GO TO CLASSES FOR THAT, ALTHOUGH HE HAS MOST OF THE CCNA CERTIFICATIONS THAT YOU WOULD LOOK FOR IN A HIRE OF THAT KIND OF A POSITION, BUT AS, COUNCILWOMAN PARKER SUGGESTED, THAT'S AN ONGOING THAT NEVER, YOU KNOW, STOPPING YOUR LEARNING REGIMEN IS STOPPING YOUR BENEFIT REGIMEN. SO HE WILL ALMOST PERPETUALLY BE IN CLASS OF SOME KIND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, NOT FOR NOW, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, JUST UNDERSTANDING OUR KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS AS IT RELATES TO SECURITY. I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT. NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT FOR THE FUTURE. I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. AND WE DO HAVE THOSE. I COULD SEE YOUR QUESTION COMING. THANK YOU. I SEE NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. OKAY NEXT WE HAVE HUMAN RESOURCE, WHICH CONSISTS OF ADMINISTRATION AND CIVIL SERVICES. PAGE SIX 103 TO 110. MAKING A PRESENTATION IS DANNY GREENLEE, HR DIRECTOR. GOOD MORNING. COUNCIL MAYOR. JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT HR DOES HERE IN THE CITY, WE SERVE AS A PARTNER TO ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS. OUR WE HELP OUR MANAGERS AND OUR DIRECTORS PROPERLY PROVIDE SUPPORT, ADVICE AND RECOMMENDATIONS JUST TO EFFECTIVELY UTILIZE AND MANAGE OUR CITY'S MOST VALUABLE ASSET, WHICH IS OUR PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE THAT SERVE OUR CITIZENS. WE ALSO WORK WITH OUR MANAGERS AND OUR DIRECTORS TO FIGURE OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN PROPERLY ATTRACT AND RETAIN OUR QUALITY EMPLOYEES, THAT WE HAVE, AND THIS WE DO THIS BY CLASSIFICATION AND COMPENSATION, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE COMPARABLE WITH OUR CITIES, ALSO OUR BENEFITS ADMINISTRATION, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE OFFERING THE BEST OF THE BEST, WHAT OUR EMPLOYEES TRULY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILIES. BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T TAKE CARE OF YOUR FAMILY, YOU CAN'T PROPERLY BE HERE, PRESENT, WORKING FOR THE CITY, WE ALSO LOOK FOR WAYS TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN AND, TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT. WE RECENTLY HAD AN ORG DEVELOPMENT MANAGER COME ON BOARD LAST YEAR. THIS WAS HER FIRST YEAR WITH US AND WE SUCCESSFULLY GRADUATED OUR FIRST COHORT COHORT IN OUR SUPERVISOR SERIES, WE GOT LOTS OF GOOD FEEDBACK, SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO STARTING OUR SECOND CLASS IN AUGUST, NEXT SLIDE.

JUST A FEW OF OUR MAJOR BUDGET CHANGES, WHICH WEREN'T REALLY MAJOR, WE DID INCREASE OUR WELLNESS PROGRAM BY $5,000. AND THAT IS TO, GO HAND IN HAND WITH PREVENTATIVE HEALTH CARE. WE FOUND OUT THAT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE HERE ALL DAY. AND SO A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY HAVE TO TAKE TIME OFF, IT'S TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR KIDS, TAKE CARE OF SEEING A TECHNICIAN AT HOME, IT'S NOT TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. SO WE THOUGHT, WELL, WHAT IF WE COULD BRING THOSE LABS, THOSE ANNUAL LABS THAT YOU HAVE TO GET DONE? THE DENTIST VISION EXAMS? WHAT IF WE BROUGHT THAT HERE TO

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THANK YOU I YIELD BACK. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, MY QUESTION TO YOU AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, MISS GREENLEE. MY QUESTION IS RELATED TO THE COST FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE LEGAL. I NOTICED THAT OVER SINCE LAST YEAR, IT HAS INCREASED. IT DOUBLED. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S DRIVING THAT OR IS THAT JUST AN INCREASE IN EMPLOYEE RELATION ISSUES, OR. IT'S A LITTLE. IT'S A LITTLE OF BOTH, UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T SAY UNFORTUNATELY, BUT, OUR LEGAL FIRM WHO OUR CIVIL SERVICE ATTORNEY, GANNAWAY ROSS, THEY INCREASED THEIR FEES ALMOST DOUBLE. AND SO THAT THAT'S WHERE THAT COMES FROM. AND THEN WE'VE HAD A FEW EMPLOYEE RELATIONS ISSUES THAT WE HAD TO LITIGATE AND WE HAD TO PAY FOR. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT INCREASE CAME FROM. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. I SEE NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTS.

THANK YOU. OKAY NEXT WE HAVE, NONE. I'M SORRY, I PROMISED. I MADE A PROMISE. OKAY. WE'LL TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK, AT THIS TIME, USE YOUR TEN MINUTES WISELY. ALL RIGHT?

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THANK YOU, MR. CORMIER. YOU SAID THAT'S IT FOR THAT PRESENTATION FOR THIS, DEPARTMENT. AND ALSO THAT CONCLUDES THE, ITEM A FOR THE GENERAL FUND. SAY, I'M SORRY, SAY THAT LAST ONE AGAIN.

THAT CONCLUDES THE ITEM A FOR THE GENERAL FUND. OKAY. THANK YOU, I SEE COUNCILMAN RAFAEL.

YOUR LIGHT. YES. YEP YEP YEP. THE, THE INCREASE FOR THE SUMMER INTERIM PROGRAM. SO I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND, HOW DO WE GET TO THE INCREASE? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO FOR THAT? ARE WE INCREASING STUDENTS OR ARE WE INCREASING PAY? AND WHAT IS THAT? I DON'T SEE ESTHER IN HERE. THAT'S AN ESTHER QUESTION. I THINK THEY'RE GETTING HER NOW. AND THEN AS IT RELATES TO THE FEES FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND FORGIVE ME FOR MY IGNORANCE ON THIS. SO WE HAVE THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT, USES LEGAL AND, IS IT THAT WE USE DIFFERENT FIRMS FOR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS? AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT'S DIRECTED TO EITHER. THANK YOU. SO THE SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM. SO THE SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS ARE OBVIOUSLY BEEN A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE OVER 20 STUDENTS EACH YEAR, SECOND YEAR NOW. AND WE WITH THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO EXTEND THEIR TIME IN THE CIT. WE'VE SEEN THAT THE MORE TIME THEY SPEND IN THEIR DEPARTMENTS, THE MORE THEY GET OUT OF IT, THE MORE THE DEPARTMENTS ACTUALLY GET OUT OF THEM AS WELL AS FAR AS PRODUCT GOES. SO JUST IT'S JUST GOING TO BE, WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO OVER THE BUDGET, WHICH YOU WERE REALLY CLOSE TO BOTH YEARS. SO WE JUST HAVE THE ADDITIONAL,

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AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WORK OUT A GOOD, DEAL WITH THAT. AS FAR AS WE STILL GETTING, WE WOULD STILL BE GETTING SOME, SOME BENEFITS AND NOT JUST PAYING FOR THEM TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL. AND WE ALSO HAVE INTEREST FROM SOME OF OUR VENDORS AS WELL, OF HAVING SOME OF OUR INTERNS DOING SOME SOME SHADOW WORK AND DOING THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I'M STILL WORKING ON CREATING THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACTUAL INTERNS GOING OVER TO ANY OTHER BUSINESSES, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT. OKAY, BECAUSE WE FROM OKAY. SO FROM 2022 TO 2026. SO OUR PROGRAM IS REALLY ROBUST IN THAT PART IS REALLY COOL, BUT I GUESS I WANT TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY SPEAKING. SO IF WE GOT CLOSE TO BUDGET, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF SALARY? I REALLY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING HOW WE COULD PARTNER WITH VISTA SO THEY CAN GET YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT PAY OR GET A COLLEGE CREDIT, NOT COLLEGE CREDIT, BUT, YOU KNOW, FUNDING TOWARDS THEIR COLLEGE. AND SO IF THERE COULD BE A, YOU KNOW, REDUCTION FOR US, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST PARTNERING WITH OTHER ENTITIES THAT MIGHT BE OUT THERE AND THEN, BECAUSE IT'S THIS, THIS IS NOT FOR THE COLLEGE STUDENT. THIS IS THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT. WELL, IT'S FOR BOTH.

YEAH, IT'S FOR, SO WE HAD WE HAD IT WHERE, FALL AND SPRING WOULD BE FOR HIGH SCHOOL, AND THEN SUMMER WOULD BE FOR COLLEGE JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A LONGER TIME PERIOD AND THEY COULD WORK THEIR 40 HOURS A WEEK, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO OPEN IT UP TO BOTH, HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE YEAR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN I TOOK A TOOK A DEEP DIVE ON THE, THE, THE WHAT'S COMING UP NEXT, LIKE THE EDC HAS TWO INTERNS. SO THAT FUNDING COMES FROM THIS POT. SO ONE OF THEIR INTERNS IS COMING FROM THIS POT. OKAY. YEAH. THEY PAID FOR THEIR OWN, AND THEY PAY FOR THE OTHER INTERNS. OKAY, OKAY. AND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCILMEMBER PARKER, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU. OH, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. I'M GOING TO ASK. THE QUESTION I'M ASKING IS ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. SO I DON'T KNOW. IS THAT YOU? WHO IS THAT? IT'S ACTUALLY, MY QUESTION WAS THAT WE WENT FROM 152 TO 215. I'M SORRY. OH, OKAY. I CAN DO THAT TO THAT. THAT WOULD BE STAR TRANSIT. AND THEY WENT FROM 156 TO 206. I THINK IT'S THEY 153 TO 206 SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

THEY INFORMED US EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT THERE WOULD BE A WAS IT 3%, 3% INCREASE IN SERVICES, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY SCHEDULED TO DO A PRESENTATION ON THE 19TH, TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT INCREASE. BUT THE REASON THAT I'M ASKING IS, IS I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT WAS. ALL THAT WAS BECAUSE RIGHT HERE, YOU'RE SAYING, TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM INCREASE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE CDD, CDBG FUNDS ISN'T THE CDBG. I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. OKAY, SO STAR TRANSIT IS OUR MICRO TRANSIT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY. SO THE CITY PAYS FOR STAR TRANSIT TO BE HERE. AND THEY PROVIDE SERVICES FOR OUR RESIDENTS AT A PRETTY LOW COST, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO GETTING GRANT FUNDS FOR THEMSELVES FROM OTHER ENTITIES THAT THAT ALLOWS THEM TO BE ABLE TO LOWER THEIR FARES FOR OUR RESIDENTS. BUT WE STILL PAY THEM TO BE HERE IN THE CITY. AS FAR AS THE CDBG PROGRA, THAT'S SOMETHING NEW THAT WE, WE LOOKED FOR WHEN WE WERE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER, TRANSPORTATION SERVICE PROVIDER BECAUSE THE CURRENT, THE PREVIOUS PROVIDER ACTUALLY STILL CURRENT, BUT, THEY WERE CHARGING US A LOT, A LOT PER FARE FOR OUR, FOR OUR, OUR VOUCHER HOLDERS, WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 45 RIGHT NOW, BUT SO WE WERE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER ENTITY THAT COULD TAKE ON THAT SAME PROGRAM, ALLOW US TO USE OUR CDBG FUNDS FOR JUST, YOU KNOW, OUR APPLICANTS AND STAR TRANSIT HAD THE BEST, THE BEST PROGRAM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE REST OF OUR RESIDENTS. SO WE WENT WITH THEIR PROGRAM TO PROVIDE SERVICES USING THE CDBG FUNDS. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE PROBABLY ONLY GOING TO BE GETTING ABOUT 25,000 FROM CDBG FOR TRANSPORTATION ASSISTANCE, BUT THAT'S TO GIVE OUR CANDIDATE OR OUR APPLICANTS FREE RIDES. THE REST OF THE FUNDING THAT WE PAY THROUGH THE CITY, THEY'RE THERE. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH FOR THE CITY. THE, THE RESIDENTS PAY A REGULAR FARE. AND SO THERE'S A

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YEAH, NOT FOR THE CDBG. NOT ALL SENIORS, BUT FOR OUR CDBG PEOPLE. THEY ARE FREE, BUT THEY ONLY GET UP TO $80. THAT'S FREE. YEAH. PER MONTH. THAT'S ABOUT $20,000 IN THE BUDGET OR $25,000 FOR THE BUDGET FOR THE START, FOR THE STAR TRANSIT, IT'S A SUBSIDIZED FUNDING, WHICH MEANS, I BELIEVE IT COSTS US ABOUT $2.10 TO PAY FOR THAT SERVICE. BUT ANY, AS, AS AS, DOCTOR, WILLIAMS MENTIONED, THAT WHOLE SERVICE IS KIND OF SUBSIDIZED. SO THERE'S FUNDING FROM DART, THERE'S FUNDING FROM, OTHER AGENCIES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO IT. AND IT ONLY COST US THAT $2.10 PER INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO DO SO AS A SUBSIDY, TO THE COST. YEAH. IT'S CONFUSING. OKAY. I'M SORRY.

I'M JUST SORRY. I WAS JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE I'M. I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS TRANSPORTATION COST HERE. THAT'S ON NON-GOVERNMENTAL, YOU KNOW, SERVICES. AND IT SHOWS 215,000.

I WAS REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT'S SAYING WE NOW HAVE A $63,000 INCREASE.

I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THAT WAS. YOU SAID THAT STAR TRANSIT. BUT YET WE GET FUNDS FROM CDBG TO OFFSET SOME OF THIS. IT'S NOT OFFSETTING. NO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT OFFSETTING. LET ME LET ME SEE IF I CAN HELP PROVIDE CLARIFICATION OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I THINK IT'S BEST TO LOOK AT THE TWO AS NOT RELATED. RIGHT. BECAUSE THE CDBG FUNDS HAVE THAT WAS A PROGRAM THAT ACTUALLY STARTED WELL BEFORE WE EVEN HAD STAR TRANSIT. AND SO IT WAS TO GIVE WE, WE SAID WE ALLOTTED A PORTION OF THOSE CDBG FUNDS, AS WE DO EVERY YEAR, TO TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. WE CONTRACTED OUT WITH A YELLOW CAB COMPANY, BUT WE WERE ONLY ABLE TO WE REALLY WEREN'T ABLE TO MAXIMIZE IT AS WE WOULD BE WITH STAR TRANSIT BECAUSE OF THE ACTUAL RATE FOR IT. SO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT QUALIFY, WHICH WERE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS, CAN QUALIFY TO RECEIVE THOSE CDBG VOUCHERS. AND IT'S FREE TO THEM. SO THE RIDE THEY WOULD GET A VOUCHER THAT WOULD THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR THE VOUCHER, ANYTHING THE VOUCHER WOULD ALLOW THEM. SO MANY RIDES PER MONTH.

SO LET'S JUST SAY FOUR RIDES PER MONTH OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE FOR THE YELLOW CAB SERVICE. SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING WHEN THEY BROUGHT IN STAR TRANSIT FOR THAT, IT'S REPLACING THE YELLOW CAB SERVICE BECAUSE THE YELLOW CAB SERVICE RATES HAVE WENT UP SO MUCH, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MAXIMIZE IT. SO STAR TRANSIT IS ABLE TO PROVIDE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME COST, WHICH WILL BE FREE TO THE PEOPLE THAT QUALIFY UNDER CDBG GUIDELINES. THEY WILL BE ABLE THE RIDES WILL STILL BE FREE TO THEM. HOWEVER, INSTEAD OF YELLOW CAB, IT WILL BE STAR TRANSIT AND THEN THE STAR TRANSIT SERVICES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW. YOU DON'T HAVE TO QUALIFY FOR THAT. YOU JUST PAY THE FARE FOR THAT. AND SO THAT IS A WHOLE SEPARATE ENTITY. IT'S NOT RELATED TO ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE CDBG RIDES AND THE INDIVIDUALS THAT QUALIFY THERE.

ANYBODY THAT PAYS A FARE AND BOOKS THEIR RIDE CAN PAY THAT PARTICULAR FARE. THE CITY IS ONLY SUBSIDIZING IT AS STAR TRANSIT IS SUBSIDIZED BECAUSE THEY GET GRANT FUNDING FROM DIFFERENT ENTITIES. AND THEN A SMALL PORTION OF THE FARES GO TO THEIR OPERATIONAL COSTS AS WELL.

BUT THAT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE. SO WHAT'S GOING UP WITH THE 6 OR $3000 IS THAT THAT PART, THAT THAT AMOUNT THAT THE CITY IS SUBSIDIZING THE STAR TRANSIT SERVICE FOR OUR ENTIRE CITY? THAT AMOUNT HAS GONE UP. SO THAT'S THE $63,000. SO IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CDBG RIDES. ALL OF THAT STUFF IS ON ITS OWN. THE $63,000 TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM, THAT SUBSIDY, THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE TO PAY IN EVERY YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FARES CAN STAY AT THE RATE THAT THEY'RE AT, HAS INCREASED. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. OKAY. BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE SERVICES. IT'S THE SAME. NO. NO MA'AM OKAY. NO IT'LL BE THE SAME SERVICES.

JUST, YOU KNOW, COST GO UP. YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS GO UP IN TERMS OF, THINGS THAT THEY HAVE THERE GOING ON AT STAR TRANSIT THAT INCREASE THE COST AND THE NEED FOR THE SUBSIDY TO GO UP.

AND AS THEY MENTIONED, THAT INFORMATION IS ALWAYS PROVIDED AHEAD OF TIME. THEY PROVIDED KIND OF A HEAD, YOU KNOW, A HEADS UP A FEW MONTHS AGO THAT THE COST WOULD BE THE PROGRAM COST WOULD BE INCREASING, HOWEVER, THAT WE DO HAVE THEM COMING TO THE COUNCIL MEETING, AS THEY DO PERIODICALLY TO DISCUSS ALL OF THAT. AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION, OBVIOUSLY, ON THE, THE IMPACT, THE NUMBER OF SERVICES, THE NUMBER OF RIDES, ALL OF THOSE

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AND SO, IN, IN, IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS THAT THEY'LL COME BACK WITH, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY ARE PARATRANSIT RIDERS, VERSUS REGULAR RIDERS, PARATRANSIT HANDY RIDE, RIDERS. BUT JUST UNDERSTANDING THOSE NUMBS. SO THIS INCREASE IS AN INCREASE NOT FOR THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES WE CAN HAVE. IT'S JUST A SERVICE INCREASE IS WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING. THE 3%, THEY COULD PROBABLY BREAK IT DOWN BETTER FOR YOU. I'M THINKING IT'S THE SERVICES. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY ADDITIONAL. BUT THEY ALSO DO PARTNER WITH UBER AND LYFT. SO. BUT THAT PARTICULAR RIDER I WOULD LOVE TO GET HIS INFORMATION SO I CAN SEE WE'LL JUST ASK THEM, YOU KNOW STAR EXACTLY HOW WE CAN GIVE THEM SERVICES. WELL WHAT HE CONSISTENTLY SAID AND FAMILY MEMBERS BECAUSE THEY REACHED OUT TO ME WITH IT IS THEY'VE BEEN CONSISTENTLY FULL AND SO HAVING THE RIDERSHIP INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE IF THIS IS A DEMAND, YOU KNOW, AS THIS BEING A DEMAND SERVICE AND SO THAT THAT THAT'S KIND OF THING NOW IT'S A DEMAND SERVICE. YOU HAVE TO CALL TWO WEEKS AHEAD OF TIME.

AND IT'S JUST BEEN AN ISSUE. BUT KNOWING WHAT THOSE ACTUAL NUMBERS ARE, REALLY WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS, SO WE ARE CONTRACTING THIS SERVICE AS A CITY, DOES THIS AND THIS MIGHT BE MORE FOR THE CITY MANAGER. YEAH, THIS MIGHT BE MORE FOR THE CITY MANAGER, BUT WE'RE CONTRACTING THIS SERVICE AS A CITY. AND RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF COMING OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUNDS. AND SO OR I'M SORRY, FINANCE DIRECTOR, DOES THIS QUALIFY FOR, COMING FROM, OUR WHAT IS IT, OUR TWO WAY, I MEAN, OUR EDC, OUR DDC, THAT THAT THAT THAT TAX.

WHAT IS IT? WHAT WHERE TYPE A WHERE TYPE B CITY. SO WITH TYPE B CITIES, MANY OF THOSE CITIES USE SOME OF THAT FUNDING TO GO TOWARDS TRANSPORTATION. AND SO MY QUESTION IS FOR US, IS THERE EVER A POINT, A TRIGGER POINT THAT WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS FOR TRANSPORTATION? I THINK MATT CARLSON PROBABLY COULD BETTER ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME. HE'S THE EDC DIRECTOR. DDC DIRECTOR. OKAY SO THEN I GUESS, MR. MUJEEB, MY I'M SORRY, MR. GODFREY, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR DART CITIES, THEY USE THEIR TWO. WAS IT TO BE TAX, TO BE BE PART OF THE DART SYSTEM. BUT THE STATE ALLOWS THAT FUND THAT PART OF SALES TAX DOLLARS TO GO TOWARDS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AT ANY POINT. CAN WE AS A CITY, NOT GETTING INSIDE OF THE DART SYSTEM, BUT USING OUR CURRENT PROVIDER WITH STAR? CAN WE USE THAT FUNDING TO HELP FUND SOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION? AND I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS FROM A ONCE WE GET THE NUMBERS BACK AND IF IT INDEED THAT WE NEED TO INCREASE, IF OUR RIDERSHIP IS INCREASING AND WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, ACCOMMODATE THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN IT COME FOR THAT PARTICULAR POT OF FUNDS? AND THAT'S MY QUESTION. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TODAY. BUT THAT'S MY QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER RIGHT NOW. I'D LIKE TO YOU IF I SAY I KNOW THE ANSWER, I DON'T, LET US TAKE A LOOK AT THE TYPE LANGUAGE AND WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO. AND IF WE DO THAT, HOW IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT OTHER BUSINESS WITHIN WITHIN THE FUND? SO, CERTAINLY WE CAN WITH ALONG WITH, DIRECTOR, CORMIER AS WELL AS AS, MATT AND DOCTOR, YOU KNOW, WILLIAMS WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. AND AGAIN, PART OF MY GOAL FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR IS TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING BASICALLY THAT WE'RE DOING. AND, IRON OUT SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THE FUNDING, BUT THE PROGRAM ITSELF, THE RIDERSHIP. YOU YOU BROUGHT A GREAT POINT ABOUT THE RIDERSHIP. AND I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE RIDERSHIP AND SEE IF THAT PROGRAM HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE FOR US. AND, YOU KNOW, AND IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH A FULL BUS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHY AREN'T IS THERE A MECHANISM FOR US TO KNOW ABOUT IT, FOR STAFF TO KNOW ABOUT IT, THAT THERE IS

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I'M SORRY I DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT IT. IT WAS JUST A TOURISM AND BRAND EXPENSE THAT'S IN THIS PARTICULAR ACCOUNT. IS THAT OUTSIDE OF THE HOT FUNDS? IS MY DIRECT QUESTION. AND I GUESS YOU CAN RESPOND TO THAT IN EMAIL FORM AS WELL. OKAY GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

SORRY. I'M SORRY ELI. I'M SORRY, JUST, ON SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS, ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED AND SOME OF THE EMAILS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO CONSOLIDATE THOSE AND PUT THEM ALL IN ONE REPORT, SENDING THEM TO THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL ON NEXT WEEK WITH THE ANSWERS, WITH THE ACCOMPANYING ANSWER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SO WHEN HE RESPONDS TO YOU, HE'S GOING TO RESPOND TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL WITH THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU.

OKAY. GOOD MORNING, WE ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR DIRECTOR, MRS. BELL, WHOM COULD NOT BE HERE, UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO A FAMILY MEDICAL EMERGENCY. SO WE ARE, REGIONAL 911 FOR THE CITIES OF DESOTO, DUNCANVILLE AND CEDAR HILL. WE ALSO DISPATCH FOR UNT DALLAS, WE SERVE AS YOUR 911 AND DISPATCH FOR POLICE, FIRE AND EMS, WE ARE THE DATA CENTER FOR ALL PUBLIC SAFETY SOFTWARE SUITES AND, MAJOR BUDGET CHANGES THIS YEAR IS WE RECEIVED A LITTLE OVER 700 GRAND IN REGARDS TO A NEXT GENERATION 911 GRANT, WE HAVE ELECTED TO ENHANCE OUR CAPABILITIES AT OUR DISASTER RECOVERY SITE, WHICH IS GRADY LAMB, BY ADDING A ADDITIONAL 911 AND RADIO POSITION AS WELL AS UPGRADING OUR UPS SYSTEMS, WHICH ARE OUR BATTERY BACKUP SYSTEMS FOR BOTH SITES TO ENHANCE OUR, DR. SCENARIO CAPACITY. DISASTER RECOVERY. SORRY. AND WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WE WILL UTILIZE, SOME GIS UPGRADES FOR SUB ADDRESSING, LIKE, ENHANCING MAPS OF IN-BUILDING COVERAGE AND

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AND WHAT ARE THEY FOR? AND THEN AS IT PERTAINS TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID, THE ADDITIONAL STAFFING YOU SAID IS TWO POSITIONS. NO OR FOR FOUR POSITIONS FOR PART TIME POSITIONS. OH PART TIME OKAY.

THAT WE WERE ALLOTTED WE REQUESTED FOUR FULL TIME POSITIONS. SO OKAY. YOU WERE I'M SORRY YOU REQUESTED FOR FULL TIME, BUT YOU WERE ALLOTTED FOR FOUR PART TIME. YES. OH OKAY.

AND JUST FOR MY GRANTS, IS IT IS IT, REFLECTED IN THIS BUDGET? CORRECT. OKAY. YES.

SO, WAIT. I'M SORRY. WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, SO THE PART IN THE ACTUAL BUDGET WHERE IT SAYS GOING FROM 50 TO 100, THE FOUR POSITIONS ARE GOING TO BE WITHIN THAT $50,000. IS THAT WHAT IS THAT? WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WHERE ARE YOU ON THE ACTUAL 7.1? THERE'S A LINE ITEM THAT SAYS PART TIME SALARIES. IT GOES FROM 52 TO 110. AND I'M JUST ASKING YOU SAID FOR PART TIME POSITIONS IS WITHIN THAT $50,000. SO, WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT, WE DO HAVE TWO PART TIME ALREADY WHO WERE PREVIOUS DISPATCHERS AND CAME BACK. SO WITHIN THAT, THE TWO PART TIME MAKEUP FOR ONE OF OUR FULL TIME POSITIONS AND SO WE HAVE THOSE PART TIMERS. BUT NOW WE'RE ADVANCED FOR MORE.

OKAY OKAY OKAY. OKAY. FOR THE PARTICIPANT SHARE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN 111, THE 1158 AND THE 127 710 EQUALS DESOTO SHARE PART OF THAT IS OPERATION. AND PART OF THAT IS DEBT SERVICES FOR THE NEW CAT SYSTEM. NON-DEPARTMENTAL SO THE NON-DEPARTMENTAL WHERE IT SAYS TRANSFER TO SWISS RCC THAT COINCIDES WITH THE REVENUE PORTION ON THE SIDEWALK SIDE OF 1,000,001 58 AND THEN THE 127 710 ON PAGE 71I WAS I WASN'T ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE TRANSFER. I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE LINE ITEM THAT SAYS PARTICIPANT EXPENSE IS RCC. YES.

AND THEN WHEN YOU GO ON PAGE ONE 711, THE REVENUE COMING IN IS CALLED PARTICIPANT SHARE. DESOT.

ONE 711 171771 OKAY. AND SO IT'S AN EXPENSE ON THE NON-DEPARTMENTAL SIDE. AND IT'S A PARTICIPANT SHARE ON FUND 111 FROM DESOTO. OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK, THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, I HAD A QUESTION A FEW MONTHS AGO, YOUR DEPARTMENT CAME TO US ASKING US TO APPROVE SOME OVERTIME. I DON'T KNOW IF EITHER OF YOU REMEMBER THAT. AND I THINK THAT THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME, DID NOT AGREE TO IT, THAT IT DID NOT GO THROUGH A VOTE, I THINK IT WAS SOME SOMETHING TO DO WITH OVERTIME. NECESSARY OVERTIME. SINCE WE'RE ON THE OVERTIME. DID YOU GUYS GET THAT IN THE BUDGET? WHAT? YOU WERE REQUESTING FOR THEN? I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A REASON WE COULD NOT PUT IT IN. IF YOU WERE JUST ASKING BECAUSE IT WAS NOT BUDGETED, THEN. AND IF YOU HAVE NOW REFLECTED THAT IN THE BUDGET, I'M TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY ON THAT. ARE EITHER YOU FAMILIAR WITH WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, I AM FAMILIAR, AS FAR AS THE OVERTIME. WHAT? BECAUSE WE WERE UNDERSTAFFED. WE USED THE MONEY. THAT WAS LEFT OVER FROM

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AND THE 1218 FROM CEDAR HILL AND THEN THEIR CEDAR HILL, NINE 111 911 REVENUE. THOSE ARE EQUAL.

THE SAME. SO BASICALLY EACH CITY SHARES THE SAME. WHAT THEY CONTRIBUTE FROM OPERATION AND WHAT THEY BRING IN FROM 911 FEES. ALL THOSE AMOUNTS ARE THE SAME. NO I SEE YOUR POINT. I SEE YOUR POINT. IT'S AND WE'LL HAVE TO WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT WELL, WE'LL WRITE IT IN WITH OUR RESPONSE AND CLARIFY IT. YEAH. YEAH. THERE'S 1.25 MILLION ON ON THAT SHEET. AND IT'S LESS THAN THAT ON OTHERS. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU MISS CAMPBELL. WE'LL TAKE THE NEXT PRESENTATION PLEASE. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE THE, JAIL FUND. AND MAKING THAT PRESENTATION IS ASSISTANT CHIEF RYAN JIZNICH. AND THE INFORMATION IS ON PAGE 710 THROUGH 19. GOOD MORNING ONCE AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. SO, THE, THE DESOTO REGIONAL JAIL HAS THE MASSIVE RESPONSIBILITY OF HOUSING, PROCESSING, FEEDING, SECURING, TRANSFERRING AND RELEASING PRISONERS JAILED UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF OUR DEPARTMENT AND OUR OUR FULL PARTNER AGENCIES. AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME CONTRACT PARTNERS AS WELL, I'VE INCLUDED A COUPLE OF THOSE UP THERE. OVILLA. POLICE DEPARTMENT, CEDAR HILL STATE PARK POLICE. AND SO ON. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO REALLY, THE ONLY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, AND THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN, ALLUDED TO, OUR PARTICIPANT SHARE WENT UP A TOTAL OF $25,000, AND THAT'S AN INCREASE OF $5,000 FROM EACH OF OUR, FIVE FULL REGIONAL JAIL PARTNERS TO INCLUDE THE CITY OF DESOTO, AND SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY OUR ONLY, SIGNIFICANT ASK. AND THEN,

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THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. AND JUST FOR MY OWN, OR THE PUBLIC, WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF GLEN HEIGHTS ONLY DOING 80,000, AND I'M JUST ASKING, WHY ARE THEY SO MUCH LESS THAN ALL OF THE OTHER THREE CITIES, JUST COMMENSURATE WITH THE AMOUNT OF BUSINESS THAT THAT THEY DO WITH US, AND, AND THE SIZE OF, OF THEIR CITY, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER THAN OUR, OUR OTHER THREE FULL PARTNERS. AND SO, WE'VE, WE'VE JUST, KIND OF GRADED IT ON A SLIDING SCALE THERE. THEY, THEY DO IN FACT BRING IN, SIGNIFICANTLY FEWER PRISONERS TO, TO THE JAIL AND, AND USE US SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN, THAN THE OTHER FOUR PARTNERS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK. YOU'RE WELCOME. YES. THERE WAS A, EARLIER WHEN WE WERE SPEAKING WITH THE JUDGE, AND WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS RELATED TO. HE MENTIONED THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT, I GUESS, PROBABLY THE REGIONALISM IN TERMS OF COST RELATED TO THE MAGISTRATE. AND, AND I HOPE I SAID THAT WORD CORRECTLY. AND AS IT RELATES TO SIGNING AFFIDAVITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT PARTICULAR SERVICE AND SO HE MENTIONED THAT YOU MAY HAVE SOME NUMBERS IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF WHETHER IT'S THE SHARES OR WHETHER IT'S OUR COST. BUT RELATED TO THAT, WHAT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IS SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING OUR JUDGE. AND PART OF MY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, AT SOME, AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, LIFE HAPPENS AND THINGS CHANGE AND PEOPLE CHANGE AND PEOPLE MOVE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO I'M CERTAIN IT'S CAUSING I MEAN, IT IS CREATING SOME KIND OF AMAZING COST BENEFIT. BUT IF WE HAD TO PAY FOR THAT SERVICE OR. YEAH, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? OR HAVE THERE BEEN TIMES WHERE WE DID NOT USE THE JUDGE AND WE USE THE OUTSIDE SOURCE? AND I THINK I'M THINKING MORE SO ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, YOU KNOW, IS THAT PIECE SUSTAINABILITY. AND THEN THE EFFICIENT RUNNING OF THE OF THE, OF OUR SYSTEM. AND SO COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT. AND IF WE USE ANYONE ELSE CONTRACTUAL SERVICE OR WHATEVER, WHERE DOES THAT LIVE IN THE BUDGET, SO, DEFINITELY THAT'S A, THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WE ARE ABLE TO, TO PLAN THOSE ABSENCES. WE DO HAVE THERE ARE ADDITIONAL MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGES THAT WILL COME IN AND FILL IN FOR JUDGE KERTH WHEN HE HAS A EITHER A PLANNED ABSENCE OR, OR OCCASIONALLY UPON EMERGENCY. WE DO HAVE FOLKS THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO, I THINK THAT IS A FAIR, CONVERSATION, COUNCILWOMAN, YOU KNOW, REGARDING AND I ALSO THINK IT'S A, IT'S A MULTIFACETED CONVERSATION BETWEEN US AND JUDGE KERTH THE COURT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, THE JUDGE DOES A LOT AND, YOU KNOW, HE HE HAS TO HAVE A COMFORT LEVEL WITH WHOEVER IT IS, WHO'S WHO'S COMING IN AND, AND DOING THE WORK THAT HE TYPICALLY DOES. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE GOT.

WE HAVE TO GET TOGETHER WITH HIM IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WHETHER WE PUT SOMEBODY ON A, ON A CONTRACT, RIGHT, TO COME IN AND WE, WE HAVE THE SAME PERSON, FOLLOWING UP OR WHETHER WE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE STAY WITH KIND OF THE SAME SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS REALLY WHO WHO WE ARE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO AND, AND WHO AGREES TO, TO HELP US OUT IN THAT MOMENT OF NEED, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S A QUESTION I THINK THAT THAT WE SHOULD ADDRESS. SO FOR THOSE PLANNED ABSENCES THAT, THAT SHOW UP ON THIS SIDE OF THE BUDGET, OR DOES THAT SHOW UP ON THE COURT SIDE OF THE BUDGET?

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IT'S A LONG STORY, BUT BASICALLY BECAUSE THE POLICE NEED TO KNOW THERE'S A CONSISTENCY AND EVERY TIME I GO ON VACATION, I COME BACK. THERE'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE BECAUSE, WELL, THAT'S NOT THE WAY JUDGE KURT DOES IT. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A MESS. SO I HAVE JUDGE HUFFMAN, SHE'S BEEN APPROVED, APPOINTED BY YOU ALL AS THE ALTERNATE. AND WE PAY HER OUT OF THAT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THIS YEAR I THINK IT WAS 15,500. THAT'S BASICALLY IT. OKAY. SHE'S MY BACKUP. SO IT LIVES IN YOUR BUDGET. IT'S IN MY BUDGET. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, SO THE AFFIDAVIT SIGNING, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT. OKAY. I JUST WANTED THAT CLARITY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND THANK YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU. CHIEF. I SEE NO LIGHTS. THANK YOU. OKAY NEXT WE HAVE THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY FUND, AND THAT STARTS ON PAGE 12 THREE. AND YOUR HOTEL OCCUPANCY SECTION. AND JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW, THIS YEAR, WE'RE CURRENTLY BUDGETING 1.4 MILLION IN REVENUE, FROM OUR HOTEL. WE CURRENTLY HAVE TEN HOTELS UNDER OPERATION AND TWO UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND THE TOTAL EXPENDITURES IS 4.1 MILLION. AND THAT INCREASE IS FOR THE, NANCE FARM, RENOVATION. AND ALSO TO WE HAVE, HOTEL EVENT EXPENSE. AND I WOULD INVITE SIDNEY ELLIOTT ELLIOTT UP TO KIND OF EXPLAIN HOW THAT PROGRAM WORKS. IS IT STILL GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO WE HAVE A TOURISM REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM. AND SO WHAT THAT ALLOWS IS FOR WHEN THE HOTELIERS DECIDE, LET'S SAY WE HAVE A SPORTING EVENT. SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE KNOWN FOR A LOT OF OUR FOOTBALL TOURNAMENTS, BASKETBALL TOURNAMENTS AND SO FORTH. IF A TOURNAMENT VENDOR DECIDES TO WORK WITH US, WE WORK WITH THE HOTELS TO OFFER A DISCOUNTED RATE AND WHATEVER RATE THAT THE HOTEL PROVIDES, LET'S SAY THEIR NORMAL RATE, ADR IS 199. THEY OFFER A DISCOUNTED RATE AT 129. WE REIMBURSE THEM THAT $70 PER NIGHT PER ROOM FOR THE DURATION OF THAT TOURNAMENT. AND SO BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO NEW HOTELS COMING ONLINE, THAT'S WHAT THE INCREASE IS BEING REQUESTED FOR. ALSO, IT IS NOTABLE TO MENTION WE ALSO REIMBURSE THEM FOR THOSE LOGO SIGNS ON 35. SO THE HOTEL SIGNS, WE REIMBURSE UP TO $5,000 FOR THAT PER HOTEL BECAUSE THE COST FOR BOTH OF THOSE SIGNS IS AROUND ABOUT $8,000. OKAY MISS ELLIOTT, THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN WAITING ALL DAY FOR THIS CONVERSATION, I, I UNDERSTAND WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO, ESTABLISH OUR OURSELVES AS A CERTAIN PLACE TO HAVE THAT INCENTIVE TO SUBSIDIZE. IF YOU WOULD, THE HOTEL ROOM NIGHTS FOR. BUT NOW, IF, SINCE OUR HOTEL OCCUPANCIES ARE RUNNING AT 90% PLUS PLUS, I WOULD QUESTION THE FEASIBILITY OF NEEDING TO GIVE AWAY. I THINK THIS THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS THAT THE REIMBURSEMENT, THE 150,000. YES, IT IS SO WHY WOULD WE SUBSIDIZE, AND HOW DO WE KNOW? I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THEY WOULD NOT GET THE RATE WITHOUT OUR SUBSIDY SUBSIDY, IS IT STILL NECESSARY? AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE'VE LOOKED AT IT? YEAH. SO BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT WHEN A VENDOR REACHES OUT TO US, THEY HAVE TWO OPTIONS. THEY CAN WORK WITH THE HOTEL DIRECTLY IN WHICH THEY'RE ABLE TO RECEIVE COMP ROOMS OR LOWER RATE, BUT WE DON'T REIMBURSE FOR THAT. IT'S SOLELY THAT THEY WORK WITH THE CITY AND THEY WORK WITH THE HOTELS AND THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, LOOK FOR A COMP OR LOOK FOR A BENEFIT FOR THEMSELVES THERE REALLY, IN REGARDS TO THE PARTICIPANTS, AND SO MAJORITY OF THE REIMBURSEMENTS ABOUT, I CAN SAY MAYBE ABOUT 30 TO 40% OF THOSE ARE FROM OUR TOURNAMENTS AND THEY HAVE TO BE CITY SPONSORED TOURNAMENTS. SO IT'S NOT JUST THE LACROSSE TOURNAMENT. IT'S NOT JUST A TOURNAMENT THAT'S GOING ON IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS. IT HAS TO BE ONE OF OUR TOURNAMENTS THAT THEY'VE PARTNERED WITH. THE CITY TO HOST. OKAY. AND SO THAT'S

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IF A HOTEL IS NOT PAYING THEIR THEIR TAXES, THEY DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT BE. AND THEY DON'T.

NUMBER TWO IS THAT THOSE RACK RATES ARE FLEXIBLE. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND THEY'RE THEY'RE MEANT TO MAXIMIZE, DAILY AVERAGE RATES. YEAH. AND SO AGAIN, I WOULD, I WOULD REALLY I THINK IT'S AN AREA THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK HAS THIS PROGRAM AT OUTLIVED ITS USEFULNESS FOR A CITY THAT'S RUNNING 90% OCCUPANCY. AND MOST HOTELS? ABSOLUTELY. AND I DO WANT TO STATE THAT IT IS A TWO KIND OF TWO STEP PROCESS. SO WHEN THEY REACH OUT ASKING FOR REIMBURSEMENT, IT DOES GO TO FINANCE. IF THEY'RE NOT UP TO DATE ON THEIR FEES, THEY'RE THEY'RE INELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT. SO THEY DO HAVE TO BE UP TO DATE WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF FEES. AND THEN THE SECOND PART ABOUT IT AND I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT, BUT YES, WE WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE TO LOOK INTO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM. I JUST WANTED TO, UNDERSCORE WHAT, COUNCIL MEMBER BURKE SAID AS WELL, AND ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, A HOTEL SHOULD NOT BE GOUGING THEIR, THEIR RATES, WHEN SPECIAL EVENTS COME IN FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS THE OFFSET FOR IT. I KNOW IF THIS WAS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, BUT I DID HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING SHORT TERM RENTAL. I'M SORRY I MISSED THE LAST PART. I THINK YOU CUT OUT. OH, OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, BUT I DID HAVE A DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTAL BECAUSE I DID NOT SEE, THE REVENUE LINE FOR THAT UNLESS I'M MISSING IT. SO, COUNCIL MEMBER, THANK YOU, MISS ELLIOTT, I THINK HER QUESTION IS REGARDING. I'M ASSUMING, THE HOTEL TAXES COMING IN FROM SHORT TERM RENTALS. IS THAT BROKEN OUT ON A SEPARATE LINE ITEM, OR WOULD THAT BE INCLUSIVE? NO, IT'S NOT BROKEN OUT, BUT WE CAN GIVE THAT INFORMATION AS WE DID BEFORE.

YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM, DID YOU GET THAT RESPONSE? YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, MY QUESTION IS REGARDING LINE ITEM THAT TALKS ABOUT THE, BUILDINGS AND IMPROVEMENTS. IT WENT FROM 500,000 TO 3 MILLION, AND I WANT TO UNDERSTAND. AND THEN IT WENT BACK DOWN TO 1 MILLION. I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS FOR. NAS FARM RENOVATION FOR 1 MILLION. NANCE FARM RENOVATION, THE COUNCIL APPROVED EARLIER. OKAY, SO THE MAINTENANCE. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK. COUNCIL MEMBER RAPHAEL. SURE THING. I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND. SO RELATED TO, WHEN WE WERE IN THE, WHEN WE WERE IN THE COMMUNICATION AND MARKETING BUDGET, THERE WAS 20,000 SET ASIDE FOR NANCE FORM.

AND SO I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND IF THAT QUALIFIES TO COME OUT OF THE HOT FUNDS VERSUS THE MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS FUND, I WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW THAT EXPENSE AND GET BACK WITH YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I SEE NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTS SO WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT PRESENTATION. OKAY.

NEXT. WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA THE DESOTO DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, DDC BUDGET AND WORK PLAN MAKING THAT PRESENTATION IS, THE DDC EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MATT CARLSO. WHAT TAB ARE THEY THERE UNDER THEIR OWN 8-1 THROUGH EIGHT. OKAY MORNING, MAYOR. SALES TAX CORPORATION. YEAH. I'M SORRY.

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THAT ENDS MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CARLSON. I SEE NO LIGHTS. WELL, BUT I DO. I DO HAVE ONE. I'M SORRY, MADAM MAYOR, SO I DIDN'T SEE THE EMAIL, SO THERE MAY BE YOU WEREN'T UP AT 3:00 THIS MORNING. COME ON NOW. ABSOLUTELY SO SOME OF HER QUESTIONS MAY ACTUALLY BE, BE BENEFICIAL TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, GRANTS. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUSINESS GRANTS, THAT'S THE LINE ITEM FOR THE BUSINESS GRANTS THAT ARE EXPENSES TO BRING BUSINESS GRANTS TO THE CITY, BUSINESSES. RIGHT. DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS AND GRANTS. YES. AND I SEE IT WENT UP AND THEN IT WENT BACK DOWN, AND SO MY QUESTION IS, IS, HAVE WE HOW ARE WE DOING? I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE NUMBERS. HOW ARE WE DOING IN THAT RESPECT FOR BEARING, YOU KNOW, BETTERING THE ACTUAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE HERE IN DESOTO FROM A FACADE GRANT AND THAT SORT OF THING. I'D LOVE TO HAVE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION. IT CAN BE A SEPARATE EMAIL, MAYBE. IT'S PROBABLY EVEN PART OF HER QUESTIONS, AND SO, YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I INDEED. AND I'LL, I'LL COMPILE THOSE ANSWERS. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT ON A NUMBER FOR A NUMBER OF ISSUES TO DISTRIBUTE TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, SO THAT YOU ALL ARE SHARING EQUALLY IN THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. AND SO THE

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MADAM MAYOR, I'M SORRY, I MEANT TO ASK, IN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, IS THE NEW CEO THAT WE JUST GOT THROUGH, YES. THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT IS IN. OKAY. YES THANK YOU. YEAH. GOOD MORNING, MR. LACEY. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO GIVE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. YOU CAN SEE OUR ORG CHART RIGHT THERE, THE OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING CONTINUOUS WATER AND SANITARY SEWER SERVICES FOR THE CITIZENS OF DESOTO. THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED BY OUR THREE DIVISIONS. UTILITY ADMINISTRATION, WHICH PROVIDES THE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT OF THE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS OUR WATER AND SEWER MAINTENANCE TEAM THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR OPERATING AND MAINTAINING OUR SYSTEM AND OUR UTILITY BILLING THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING CUSTOMER SERVICE AND ACCEPTING UTILITY BILLING PAYMENTS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. MOST OF YOU HAVE ALREADY SAT THROUGH ONE BUDGET CYCLE. SO THIS MESSAGE KIND OF IS EXACTLY THE SAME. THE O&M BUDGET FOR FUND 502 OR THE WATER UTILITY BUDGET, IS DRIVEN BY DWU TREATED WATER PURCHASES AS WELL AS OUR, PRICE FOR SANITARY SEWER TREATMENT FROM TRA. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PIE CHART OVER THERE TO YOUR RIGHT, THAT MAKES UP ROUGHLY ABOUT 72% OF OUR EXPENDITURES. AND JUST TO PUT SOME PERCENTAGES ON IT, DWS IS PROJECTING A 9% INCREASE FOR TREATED WATER PURCHASES, AND OUR TWO REGIONAL WASTEWATER SYSTEM PROVIDERS, TEN MILE AND RED OAK CREEK, ARE PROPOSING A 10.9 AND A 0.5% INCREASE IN SANITARY TREATMENT SERVICES OF, RESPECTIVELY, THE OTHER MAJOR, CHANGES OR ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE REQUESTED FOR THIS YEAR WERE SMART MANHOLE COVERS, WE HAVE A LOT OF MANHOLES THAT ARE, IN

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THAT IS MORE JUST TO STREAMLINE OUR WORK ORDER PROCESS. RIGHT NOW, OUR METER SERVICES TEAM IS GETTING WORK ORDERS. YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF THE OLD FASHIONED WAY FROM A PRINTER. SO WE FEEL LIKE BY GOING MORE ELECTRONIC, THAT KEEPS THEM ON THE STREET A LITTLE BIT MORE AND ALSO HELPS US MANAGE, YOU KNOW, THE PROGRESS THAT IS BEING MADE OUT IN THE FIELD, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS BEYOND FY 25. WE WERE GOING TO PROPOSE AN FY 26 TO REPLACE OUR SEWER INSPECTION CAMERA. OUR CURRENT ONE IS, KIND OF EXCEEDING ITS USEFUL SERVICE LIFE. AND WE'RE FINDING OURSELVES TO HAVE TO CONTRACT A LOT OF THOSE SERVICES OUT. SO WITH THAT BECOMES INCREASED RESPONSE TIMES. AND FROM A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT, WE CAN'T REALLY INSPECT OUR LINES LIKE WE WANT TO IN ORDER TO MAKE POINT REPAIRS BEFORE OUR BACKS UP AGAINST THE WALL TO, YOU KNOW, DO AN EMERGENCY REPAIR, ALSO IN FY 26, WE WERE PROPOSING TO ADD A PART TIME ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT TO HELP UTILITIES MANAGER, MR. ALAN MCDONALD AND HIS AREA BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HIS TEAM IS OUT IN THE FIELD MOST OF THE DAY CHASING FIRES. SO SOMETIMES THE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION KIND OF TAKES A BACK SEAT. SO THAT WOULD PUT A PERSON IN THERE AT LEAST ON A PART TIME BASIS TO ASSIST AT AN ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL. AND THEN THE LAST THREE PROJECTS THAT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PRICE TAG ON THE WESTMORELAND PUMP STATION, WHICH IS THE PUMP STATION NEXT TO DESOTO WEST, WE ARE PROPOSING TO REHAB THAT PUMP STATION AND REHAB THE GROUND STORAGE TANKS. I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM OUR REGULATORY AUTHORITY TO USE THE TK ON TUESDAY. THE PLANT, THEY APPROVED OUR PLAN. SO WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE, PUTTING IT OUT TO BID IN MIDDLE OF AUGUST. ALSO, THE VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THE BOLTON BOONE ZONE, WE'RE ABOUT 10% IN THE INTO THE DESIGN PHASE, IF YOU RECALL. THAT'S THE AREA THAT'S GENERALLY BETWEEN DANIEL DALE AND WHEATLAND ROAD THAT WILL, SUPPORT THE GROWTH AND SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT AREA. AND THEN ALSO OUR PUBLIC UTILITIES OPERATIONS BUILDING, WHICH I WON'T BELABOR THAT TOPIC BECAUSE WE HAD A PRETTY IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION ABOUT IT LAST WEEK DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. BUT I JUST WILL SAY THAT WE ARE TAKING WE DID TAKE THE COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK, AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ACCORDINGLY. SO, YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T BE ME IF IT IF I DIDN'T END WITH THIS STATEMENT. YOU KNOW, MY TAGLINE MAKE A T SHIRT GENERATIONAL RIGHT. SO IN ORDER I KNOW THIS IS A MAJOR UNDERTAKING. HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, WE, THE COUNCIL, WE PUBLIC UTILITY STAFF JUST TO GET TO BE THE LUCKY PEOPLE WHO GET TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS THAT IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY. ON INTO THE FUTURE AND MAKE THESE DECISIONS THAT, THAT ENSURE THAT THE UTILITIES AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL SUPPORT FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. SO COUNCIL MEMBER BYRD SAID, IF I QUOTE HIM, I HAVE TO GIVE HIM CREDIT. SO I WILL GIVE HIM CREDIT WITH THIS. AS DESOTO GETS OLDER, SHE JUST TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE TLC TO KEEP MOVING. SO THAT PRINCIPLE DOES REALLY TRANSCEND INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE OF IT TOO. AND I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD SEGUE, BECAUSE THE NEXT PART OF THIS PRESENTATION, I'LL YIELD THE PODIUM TO OUR RATE STUDY CONSULTANTS, RAFTELIS, WHO IS OUR RATE STUDY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF I COULD ASK YOU A QUESTION. SURE. THAT THAT FIRST, FIRST, SLIDE SO TRUE. TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY, THEY'RE RAISING THEIR RATES BY INCREASING THEIR RATES BY 9% TO THE CITIES. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S PUSHING THAT FORWARD THAT MUCH. ALL RIGHT. SO TWO PART RATE. SO WE DISCHARGE INTO TWO, REGIONAL WASTEWATER SYSTEMS, TEN MILE CREEK AND ALSO RED OAK REGIONAL. SO TEN MILE IS PROPOSING A 10.9% INCREASE IN RED OAK IS PROPOSING A 0.5% INCREASE. AND THOSE MAJOR DRIVERS ON THOSE PROJECTS ARE THEIR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND CAPACITY DRIVEN FOR THEIR SEWER TRUNK LINES, AS WELL AS THE VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THEIR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS. OKAY, BECAUSE THEY RECENTLY, PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, THEY STARTED A PROJECT WHERE THEY WERE INCREASING, THEY WERE NOT INCREASING, BUT THEY WERE DOING INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. SO IS THIS IS THIS A CONTINUATION OF THAT, OR IS THIS JUST LIKE REGULAR MAINTENANCE ROUTINE TYPE THINGS? SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A CONTINUATION OF THAT AS WELL AS THEY DID CITE SOME INCREASED, ON THE PERSONNEL SIDE AS FAR AS LIKE INSURANCE AND SUCH LIKE THAT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE TRIED TO DO TO OFFSET SOME OF THE PRICES THAT THEY'RE PASSING ON TO THEIR CONTRACTING PARTIES IS BRINGING A LOT OF THEIR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IN-HOUSE, BY DOING A LOT MORE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE ENGINEERING AND STUFF IN-HOUSE. SO A LOT OF THAT IS, STAFF RELATED O&M AS WELL AS THEIR CAPITAL PROJECTS NEEDED AROUND THEIR SYSTEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SMART MANHOLES, YOU SAID 11 IN

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A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE REQUESTED BY A CONSULTANT. OTHERWISE THEY WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DO THE A FULL MODEL. BUT IF THERE'S SOME DATA THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY PROVIDE, WE CAN USE THAT AS A NEGOTIATING TOOL BECAUSE WE WOULD ALWAYS HAVE WE WOULD ALREADY HAVE SOME OF THAT DETAIL AS FAR AS OUR INFLOW AND INFILTRATION DURING RAIN EVENTS AND SUCH LIKE THAT. OKAY AND YOU DON'T NEED TO PUT IT IN ALL MANHOLES. THE SMART SYSTEMS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN ALL MANHOLES, BUT YOU HAVE PRIORITY MANHOLES WHERE YOU HAVE SOME INFILTRATION INFLOW, YOU KNOW, WATER RISING, BASICALLY THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE HAD HISTORY WITH THEM THAT YOU WANT TO MONITOR, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT THEM AT EVERY SINGLE MANHOLE. OKAY. WITHIN THE CITY. SO ONCE THIS IS DONE, IF THIS IS APPROVED, ONCE THIS IS DONE, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE WHAT, 13 MANHOLES THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF DESOTO? NO, MA'AM. SO IT'LL BE TEN TOTAL. SO THE TWO RIGHT NOW WILL HAVE TO BE RETURNED BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE I SAID, THAT'S JUST PART OF A DEMO. RIGHT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO PURCHASE TEN OF OUR OWN AND THEY CAN BE MOVED AROUND. YOU KNOW, WE WOULD RELY ON OUR CONSULTANTS TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT STRATEGIC PLACES WE WOULD PUT THEM OR EVEN OUR STAFF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PLACES WHERE WE CONSIDER TROUBLE AREAS, BUT THEY CAN BE MOVED AROUND IF SUCH A TIME WE DECIDE TO MOVE THEM INTO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR OTHER QUESTION, AS FAR AS WHERE IS THAT LOCATED? IF YOU LOOK ON THE BUDGET BOOK ON PAGE 9-8 IN THE FIRST LINE ITEM AFTER THE PERSONNEL. IF YOU SEE THE 72,500, THAT'S WHERE THAT IS HOUSED. THE ENTITLED OTHER EQUIPMENT. OH OKAY. SO IT'S THE 40 500. THE PROPOSED FOR 225 IS THE 72. THE 72,500. YES, MA'AM. OH, OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. AND RELATED TO THAT, IS THERE AN ONGOING COST AFTER THIS INITIAL, INSTALLATION AND ALL OF THAT, IS THERE AN ONGOING MAINTENANCE COSTS ASSOCIATED THAT WE'LL SEE IN FUTURE BUDGETS? THERE WILL BE, BUT THERE WAS NO COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE PLANNING. FY 26 BUDGET BECAUSE AS A PART OF THIS PACKAGE THAT INCLUDED A TWO YEAR SOFTWARE AGREEMENT. SO THEREFORE WE WON'T REALIZE ANY MORE COST UNTIL WE START WORKING ON THE FY 27 PLANNING BUDGET. ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN PROCEED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL YIELD THE PODIUM TO RAFTELIS, WHO IS OUR RATE STUDY CONSULTANT. THEY WILL GO OVER THE PROPOSED WATER, SEWER AND SANITATION RATES FOR FY 25. MAKING THIS PRESENTATION IS MISS ANGIE FLORES WITH RAFTELIS. THANK YOU. BRANDON. HI, EVERYONE, FOR THE RECORD, I AM ANGIE FLORES. I'M WITH RAFTELIS. SO I'LL BE PRESENTING, THE RATE STUDY, PRESENTATION, SO TO START, YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THIS SLIDE, WELL, I GUESS LET ME BACK UP, SO WE COMPLETED A RATE STUDY FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO. IT INCLUDED LOOKING AT YOUR FY 25 BUDGET INCLUDES WATER, WASTEWATER, AND SANITATION. SO THIS PRESENTATION IS BASICALLY THE RESULTS OF THAT ANALYSIS, AND THE RECOMMENDATION FOR FY 25. SO FOR THE PUBLIC UTILITIES FUND, YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THERE WAS SOME MAJOR COST DRIVERS THAT ARE REALLY DRIVING THE NEED FOR A RATE INCREASE THAT INCLUDES THE 12% INCREASE FOR SEWER TREATMENT AND AN 18% INCREASE FOR PURCHASED WATER,

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AND THE LINE HERE REPRESENTS THE FORECASTED REVENUES, SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THERE WOULD BE A SHORTFALL, PRETTY QUICKLY, STARTING IN 25. AND YOUR, BALANCE, YOUR ENDING BALANCE WOULD BE A -3.8 MILLION OR DECREASE OF 3.8 MILLION, AND 30.1 MILLION OVER THE FIVE YEARS. SO THIS WOULD MAKE YOU NON-COMPLIANT WITH YOUR RESERVE TARGETS ON THE RIGHT THERE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THIS OUTLOOK LOOKS LIKE WITH A 9% RATE INCREASE ANNUALLY FOR THREE YEARS, SO THIS ALLOWS YOU TO REMAIN COMPLIANT WITH YOUR RESERVE REQUIREMENTS, AND KEEP MAINTAIN A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE, AND AGAIN, THESE FORECASTED NUMBERS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SOME OF THOSE MAJOR COST DRIVERS THAT I MENTIONED IN THE SLIDE. PREVIOUS NEXT SLIDE. SO THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDED WATER RATES. FOR FY 25. AGAIN THIS IS A 9% INCREASE, WE'VE APPLIED IT ACROSS THE BOARD. AND THE RATE INCREASE IS APPLIED, TO YOUR FIXED CHARGE BY METER SIZE. AND THEN THE VOLUMETRIC CHARGES, NEARLY 96% OF ALL YOUR METERS ARE WITHIN THE THREE QUARTER AND ONE INCH RANGE. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN FOR SEWER, SAME THING RECOMMENDING A 9% INCREASE FOR FY 25, AND FOR YOUR RESIDENTIAL CLASS, YOU DO CHARGE BASED ON A WINTER SEWER AVERAGE, AND YOUR COMMERCIAL CLASS PAYS ON ACTUAL WATER USAG. SO THIS IS A BILL COMPARISON TO YOUR PEER CITIES, YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT CURRENTLY BASED ON YOUR EXISTING RATES, YOU ARE SITTING THERE AT THE BOTTOM, OF THE CITIES AT THE SECOND TO LOWEST RATES WITH THIS ADJUSTMENT, IT WILL MOVE YOU AHEAD OF LANCASTER. AND I WILL SAY THAT I BELIEVE WHEN WE LOOK, SOME OF THESE CITIES ARE DOING, RATE ADJUSTMENTS CURRENTLY. SO, I'M SURE THOSE WILL BE MOVING UP AS WELL. SO NOW WE MOVE INTO SANITATION. SO SAME THING HERE ON THE COST DRIVERS, WE'RE SEEING AN OVERALL 3.5% INCREASE.

TO YOUR TOTAL EXPENSES YEAR OVER YEAR, THE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES WERE INCREASING THOSE BY 3.5%, AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME CASH FUNDED CAPITAL, AT $260,000 FOR A STREET SWEEPER. AGAIN, THE RESERVE TARGETS ON HERE A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE WATER AND WASTEWATER, WE'RE ASSUMING A TARGET OF 15% RESERVES, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY LESS THAN, THE WATER, PRIMARILY DUE TO THE SANITATION

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THAT'S CORRECT. AND I'M A LITTLE I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED. I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THAT WHEN WE ACTUALLY PUT IN THE NEW CONTRACT THAT THERE WAS NOT GOING TO BE AN INCREASE IN SANITATION SERVICES, PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE WERE DOING THE NEW CONTRACT WITH REPUBLIC AND THEIR NEW SERVICES, SO NO, NO, MA'AM, THAT'S THAT'S NOT CORRECT. THE CONTRACT, FOR REPUBLIC. COST ALLOWS FOR A, 3.5% INCREASE ANNUALLY IN THE CONTRACT ITSELF. THE PREVIOUS CONTRACT THAT WE HAD WITH REPUBLIC, I THINK THE INCREASE WAS, 3% EACH YEAR. BUT BECAUSE WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR BIDS AND WE RENEGOTIATED THE CONTRACT, PART OF THAT NEGOTIATION WAS, 3% INCREASE ANNUALLY IN THE CONTRACT. AND THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD, OUR, CONTRACT WITH, WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL IS TIED TO THE, CONSUMER PRICE INDEX. AND SO IT IS IT IS THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX INCREASE, OR 5%, WHICHEVER IS GREATER. SO ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF CONTRACTS HAVE AN ESCALATION ANNUALLY, EMBEDDED IN THEM BECAUSE THE COST COSTS GO UP. OKAY. AND SO THE ACTUAL CONTRACT DIDN'T ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE UNTIL JUNE OF THIS YEAR, BUT THE INCREASE WILL HAPPEN IN THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING THIS FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT. YEAH. IT'S JUST THE WAY THE AND WE'VE TALKED WITH, REPUBLIC AND WASTE MANAGER WASTE MANAGEMENT ABOUT TRYING TO SEE IF WE, IF WE CAN ALIGN THE INCREASE WITH THE FISCAL YEAR. BUT JUST HISTORICALLY, THE INCREASE FOR BOTH OF THOSE HAVE OCCURRED OCCURRED IN JUNE OF EACH YEAR. SO THEY OCCUR IN JUNE OF EACH YEAR. BUT THEY ARE CONSISTENT EACH YEAR. OKAY. SO THIS INCREASE WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE UNTIL JUNE OF 2025. NO, N. SO THIS IS A DIFFERENT INCREASE. SO WE'RE TALKING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS INCREASE IS THE INCREASE FOR SO THE CONTRACT WILL INCREASE THAT I'M REFERRING TO WITH REPUBLIC AND WASTE MANAGEMENT. REFER HAS TO DO WITH THE AMOUNT THAT THEY CHARGE US.

THIS THIS WATER RATE INCREASE. THIS INCREASE HAS TO DO WITH WHAT WE BUILT OUR RESIDENTS.

OKAY. AM I AM I RIGHT? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS FLORES. YOU CAN CONTINUE. THANK YOU. OKAY, LET'S SEE. WHERE WERE WE? KEEP GOING. YEAH. I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. DRAINAGE NO, WE HAVEN'T MADE. WE HAVEN'T MADE THE DRAINAGE. OKAY. YEAH THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COUNSELOR, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MISS FLORES AND HER, PORTION OF THE PRESENTATIO? HEARING AND SEEING. NO LIGHTS. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. OKAY NEXT, WE ARE MOVING ON TO THE DRAINAGE FUND. AND MAKING THAT PRESENTATION IS, DIRECTOR CHARLES BREWER DRAIN. I'M SORRY. OH, WELL, MAYBE NOT. NO, NO, WELL, MAYBE NOT. OKAY, WELL, IF YOU CAN TURN TO PAGE FOUR, THE STORM DRAINAGE, LET ME SEE. WHERE ARE WE AT IN THE BOOK TEN DASH ONE. OKAY IF YOU LOOK ON TEN DASH TWO, IT SHOWS THE OVERALL BUDGET OF 1.6 MILLION.

AND OF COURSE, THOSE ARE, CHARGE THAT COMES FROM OUR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AT THIS TIME. AND AS COUNCIL KNOW, WE DID PRESENT, AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE ARE REVISITING THOSE DRAINAGE

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SO JUST AGAIN, WORD OF CAUTION FOR US THAT THIS THIS COULD CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY. AND I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO PUT IT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER ALJOFREE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM HAS HER HAND RAISED. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? COUNCIL MEMBER, YES, MADAM MAYOR, AND I THINK THAT, MR. GODFREY IS ANSWERING IT FOR ME. MY QUESTION PARTICULARLY WAS AROUND THE SUPPLIES AND THE, SERVICES AND PROFESSIONAL FEES BECAUSE, TO THEY HAVE BOTH DOUBLED MORE THAN DOUBLED OVER SINCE OVER FOR THE PROPOSED IN WHAT IT WAS MAYBE JUST A YEAR AGO. SO ARE WE SAYING THAT THAT IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE WORK THAT COLLECTIVELY THAT'S BEING DONE TO BRING TO ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE PERSPECTIVE OR IN THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE ONGOING? SO THANK THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FEE, WE DID RECEIVE PROPOSALS ON THE STORM DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN. AND THAT WAS, I BELIEVE, DIRECTOR BREWER ALLUDED TO LAST YEAR, LAST YEAR WAS, STAFF BUDGETED ABOUT $300,000. WE RECEIVED THREE PROPOSALS. THE LOWEST OF THEM WAS IN THE 744. RANGE, $744,000 RANGE. WE WERE ABLE TO TALK TO THE CONSULTANT. PART OF THE GOALS FOR THE CONSULTANT WAS DO A 20 YEAR OUTLOOK, WHICH, I, I HAD A VERY HEART TO HEART CONVERSATION WITH THEM. AND I SAY I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR NEXT SEVEN YEARS, NOT THE NEXT 20 YEARS. SO PART OF YOUR OUTLOOK NEEDS TO KIND OF NOT REDUCE THE SCOPE OF WORK PER SE, BUT FOCUS THE SCOPE OF WORK ON WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IN THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS. BECAUSE IN SEVEN YEARS WE REALLY NEED TO STUDY AGAIN, THE, THE, THE STORM, YOU KNOW, THE STORM WATER MASTER PLAN. SO AS A RESULT, WE'RE ABLE TO WE'RE ABLE TO REDUCE THE SCOPE OF WORK. AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO USE REDUCING THE SCOPE OF WORK, BUT FOCUS THE SCOPE OF WORK TO BE ABLE TO BE IN THE $500,000 RANGE. AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WE, WE, WE HAVE THAT. I HOPE THAT ANSWERED THE QUESTION. YES, YES. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, BASED ON THAT SAME, QUESTION WHEN WE WERE TALKING SERVICES AND PROFESSIONAL FEES IN THE BOOK AND THE BINDER BOOK, IT SHOWS 300, OR 245 BUT ON HERE IT SHOWS 500,000, ARE YOU SAYING I WANT TO UNDERSTAND. ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE ONE THAT'S IN THE BOOK REALLY IS THIS RIGHT HERE? IT SHOULD BE THIS 500 OR IS THE BOOK RIGHT? IS THE BINDER BOOK THE. THE PROPOSED NUMBER IS $500,000 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025. I, I WANT STAFF PLEASE. WE HAVE 300 AND ASK ANSWER THE QUESTION.

WE HAVE 300,000 BUDGETED IN A FISCAL YEAR 24 WHERE WE'RE GOING TO START THE MASTER PLAN. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE SET UP AS A PROJECT. AND THEN THE FISCAL YEAR 25, WE'RE GOING TO ADD THE 200,000 TO THE PROJECT SPREAD TO THIS SHEET HERE. YEAH I KNOW YEAH. SO IN CURRENT FISCAL, ONGOING FISCAL YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 24. DO YOU MIND INTRODUCING YOURSELF. OH, SURE. SORRY. GOOD

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THAT IS NUMBER NINE. NUMBER TEN. NUMBER 11 AND NUMBER 17 ALSO NUMBER SEVEN IS 99% COMPLETE.

THE CONSTRUCTION AND NUMBER 19, IS, WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU ON AUGUST 6TH FOR AWARDING A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT. OTHERS ARE EITHER IN DESIGN PHASE OR ALMOST READY FOR PUBLISHING THE BID. NEXT SLIDE. JUST TO STOP IT FROM SHARED.

WHAT IS. WHAT IS THE ISSUE? IT WON'T IT WON'T GO TO NEXT SLIDE. ANDY, GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THE PROJECTS WHILE THEY'RE FIXING UP THERE. YOU GO. OKAY S. YES. THIS ONE. SO, THIS IS, PRESENT RUN ROAD AND WE HAVE THREE MASIP PROJECT MASIP PROJECT AT THE MUNICIPAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ARE PART OF, COLLABORATED PROJECT WITH DALLAS COUNTY, IN WHICH THEY CONTRIBUTE SOME FUNDING. SO THE FIRST ONE IS PLEASANTON ROAD. OKAY. SO THE PEASANT RUN ROAD PROJECT IS BASICALLY WIDENING THE ROAD FROM TWO LANES TO FOUR LANE FROM WESTMORELAND ROAD TO COCKRELL HILL ROAD AND, THAT PROJECT, THE OPINION OF POSSIBLE CONSTRUCTION COST IS $22 MILLION. DALLAS COUNTY WOULD CONTRIBUTE $1 MILLION ONLY FOR, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION FOR PRESIDENT PROJECT. THE DESIGN IS 100% COMPLETE AND READY TO BID RIGHT AWAY. ACQUISITION IS 100% COMPLETE. FRANCHISE UTILITY RELOCATIONS IS 80% COMPLETE, AND CONSTRUCTION START WILL BE, DETERMINED BASED ON THE FUNDING AVAILABILITY. EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY. WHEN DID YOU SAY CONSTRUCTION WOULD START? PLEASANTON ROAD? EXCUSE ME. WHAT IS THE. OH, OKAY. SO, THE PROJECT IS READY TO BE, PUBLISHED FOR BIDDING. HOWEVER, WE ARE WAITING FOR THE FUNDING BECOME AVAILABLE, AND THAT HAS TO COME FROM THE CITY'S FUNDING. DALLAS COUNTY IS CONTRIBUTING ONLY $1 MILLION. AND, LET ME TELL YOU THIS. WE WILL NEED TO COME UP WITH $21 MILLION, TO, TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO PURSUE. SOME GRANTS, SOME SOME OPPORTUNITIES, MAYBE GO BACK TO THE COUNTY ON THE NEXT CALL FOR PROJECTS. SO WE'RE NOW IN THE MSIP SEVEN CYCLE. MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE MSIP EIGHT CYCLE, TO BE ABLE TO GO AFTER CONSTRUCTION MONEY. SO ACTUALLY IN OUR, FROM PAST FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE $6 MILLION AVAILABLE FOR THAT PROJECT, BUT WE WILL NEED TO GET ANOTHER $15 MILLION TO COVER THE

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BUT THE BULK OF IT, IS FOR THIS PROJECT AND AS WELL AS WESTMORELAND, IT HAS TO COME FROM, FROM THE CITY, EITHER THROUGH A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION OR SOME OTHER FORM OF, OF FUNDING. OKAY. RELATED TO THE COUNTY. DO THEY GIVE YOU MORE FUNDING? I GUESS WHEN IT'S ADJOINING OR ABUTTING OTHER CITIES, IS THAT WHAT IT IS? BECAUSE I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND FOR GIVING US A 5050 ON A DIFFERENT ROAD, BUT THIS ONE WAS BEEN SITTING FOR A MINUTE WITH THE MILLION, SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NOW. I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE VIABILITY OF THEM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SUBSIDY, FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE, IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER, THEY, THEY, THEY THEY, THEY COULD IF THEY FEEL THE PROJECT HAS SIGNIFICANT REGIONAL, OPPORTUNITIES, AND OR IS LEADING TO MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL, ACTIVITIES. DANIELLE DELL, FOR EXAMPLE, IS BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS, THE CITY OF DESOTO AND OF COURSE, IN THE COUNTY UNINCORPORATED AREA. SO THAT'S THE REASON OF THE SIGNIFICANCE WHERE THE COUNTY IS CONTRIBUTING THE $9 MILLION OR UP TO THE 50% FOR THAT, THIS AND WESTMORELAND HAPPENED TO BE A STRICTLY FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO, THEY THEY ALSO LOOK AT WHETHER IT'S A CONNECTING STREET. SO, YOU KNOW, PLEASANT RUN. WESTMORELAND MAY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND ALSO LOOK AT COG FOR SOME, JOINT FUNDING WHERE WE CAN SAY IT'S MULTI AGAIN, MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL PURPOSE AND IT IS MORE OF A REGIONAL FUNCTION, NOT NECESSARILY REGIONALLY. DESIGNED OR DESIGNATED. BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT AN ARGUMENT THAT COULD BE MADE TO, TO PURSUE, YOU KNOW, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. BUT WE STILL HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE BULK OF THE MONEY. I SEE. THANK YOU. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN YOU. YES. GO BACK. PREVIOUS SLIDE.

PREVIOUS SLIDE, I NEED YEAH. IT IS NOT WIDENING. YES MA'AM. NO, THE, PLEASANT RUN ONE. OKAY. AND THE REASON I ASK, I'M, I'M ASKING MY QUESTION IS, THIS WAS ON THE BOOKS TO BE DONE, AND THERE WERE SIGNS OUT AND EVERYTHING. AND AT THAT TIME, THERE WERE ESTIMATES THAT WERE, I GUESS, OBTAINED, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S NOW GOING OUT TO BID? IS THAT WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY? I'M SAYING THAT WE ARE READY TO PUBLISH THE BID. WE CAN PUBLISH THE BID. BUT BEFORE PUBLISHING THE BID, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF MONEY PLANNED TO PAY THE CONTRACTOR. OKAY? WE WILL NOT BID UNLESS WE HAVE THE FULL COST. THE FULL COST OF THE PROJECT, EITHER EARMARKED OR COMMITTED, WHETHER IT'S BY THE CITY OF DESOTO OR ANY OTHER PARTNERS, OR THROUGH GRANTS. WE DON'T GO OUT TO BID, JUST BASED ON PARTIAL FUNDING. BUT THAT'S NOT GOOD BUSINESS TO DO. OKAY. AND SO MY OTHER QUESTION WAS, SINCE THIS IS A 2025 ESTIMATE, HOW LONG DOES THAT ESTIMATE LAST? SO THIS ESTIMATE, LIKE WE ACTUALLY ESTIMATED IN CURRENT TIME 2024, THEN WE ADDED INFLATION FACTOR AND COME UP WITH THIS 2025 ESTIMATE. SO THIS ESTIMATE WOULD BE GOOD FOR I WOULD SAY TILL DECEMBER 2025. BUT IF WE DON'T BUILD IN 2025 AND GO FOR LATER YEAR DUE TO INFLATION AND OTHER FACTOR COST INCREASE, THE PROJECT COST CAN GO EVEN HIGHER AND DOES THE CITY AND DOES THE COUNTY. THEN IF THE COST GO UP, DO THEY MOVE UP THEIR COST? I DON'T THINK SO. BUT I CAN SAY, BASICALLY FEW YEARS AGO, CITY OF DESOTO SUBMITTED, DIFFERENT PROJECTS TO, DALLAS COUNTY FOR CONSIDERATION OF FUNDING. THAT IS THE MRTP CALL. AND THREE PROJECTS ARE FUNDED, BUT PLEASANTON GOT ONLY $1 MILLION FUNDING. IT'S A SOLID NUMBER, NO OTHER EXPLANATION. WESTMORELAND GOT $3 MILLION FUNDING AND DANIEL DALE GOT 50% OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST AND DESIGN COST. OKAY. THANK YOU. I YIELD

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SO THAT IS BASICALLY $1.2 MILLION WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR DALLAS AND THE WATER LINE RELOCATION. BUT DALLAS WATER UTILITY WOULD PAY THE $600,000. I MEAN, THE 50%. AND THERE WAS A AGENDA ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU, I THINK FEW MONTHS AGO FOR AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH DALLAS WATER UTILITY. NEXT SLIDE, DANIEL ROAD PROJECT. AND THIS IS ANOTHER WIDENING PROJECT. AND, IN THIS PROJECT WE WILL WIDEN THE ROAD FROM THE WEST CITY LIMIT ON DANIEL ROAD PROJECT, BASICALLY ADJACENT TO CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. AND ON THE EAST IT WILL GO UP TO THE INTERSECTION OF DANIEL ROAD WITH WESTMORELAND ROAD. AND OPINION APPROVAL COST IS $21 MILLION. NOW, OUT OF $21 MILLION, $3 MILLION WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR SOME OF THE COST THAT CITY WANTED. FOR EXAMPLE, ESTHETICS, IMPROVEMENT, MONUMENT SIGNAGE, LANDSCAPING, ETC. THOSE ARE NOT PART OF THE COST THAT, DALLAS COUNTY WILL PARTICIPATE. SO OUT OF 21 MILLION, 3 MILLION WOULD BE COMPLETELY CITY OF DESOTO'S RESPONSIBILITY. SO THE REMAINING 18 MILLION DALLAS COUNTY WOULD CONTRIBUTE 9 MILLION OR WHATEVER THE ULTIMATELY 50%, BECAUSE WHEN THE CONTRACTOR BID, IT COULD BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 18 MILLION IS JUST OUR PREDICTION OR PROJECTED COST. SO ALSO DALLAS COUNTY IS CONTRIBUTING 50% COST OF THE DESIGN AS WELL. IS THIS EXPLANATION CLEAR? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO THE CITY'S PORTION WOULD BE $12 MILLION. AND THE COUNTY'S PORTION WOULD BE $9 MILLION. BASED ON THE BID, SOMETIMES THE COUNTY EXPECTS US IF THERE'S AN OVERRUN, EXPECTS US TO ALSO COME UP WITH ANOTHER PORTION, WHICH COULD BE THE 50% MORE, OR IT COULD BE BORNE BY THE CITY 100%. SO NOT UNTIL THE BIDS ARE OPEN IS WHEN WE KNOW WHAT OUR TRUE COST IS. SO IF THE BIDS COME IN LOWER, OUR PORTION WOULD BE LESS THAN THE $9 MILLION THAT WE EXPECT. PLUS THE $3 MILLION THAT WE WANTED. HOPEFULLY I DIDN'T CONFUSE IT MORE. YOU DID. I HAVE A QUESTIO, THOUGH, IF WE CAN JUST SCOOT BACK ONE ONE SLIDE, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. WHENEVER THERE'S WHERE IT SAYS A SCOPE AND YOU SAID ADD AN ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'S ON THE CITY TO DO. YES. PART OF WESTMORELAND ROAD, THAT IS CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. YES.

OKAY. AND SO ON. THIS NEW ITEM, PREVIOUSLY YOU HAD DATES WHERE THE OLD PCC WAS. WHAT IS THE OLD PCC DATE FOR, BOAT AND BOONE, IF YOU GO ONE SLIDE OVER. YES. SO FOR DANIEL ROAD, THIS IS A PCC AS OF NOW OR VALID FOR CURRENT YEAR, CURRENT CALENDAR YEAR. SO THE 21.1 MILLION IS FOR RIGHT NOW. YES. THIS YEAR. YES. MEANING 2024. YES. SO 2025. IT MAY BE DIFFERENT. IT COULD BE DEFINED BECAUSE OF INFLATION. AND AGAIN, CONTRACTOR WOULD SUBMIT A BID, AND WE WILL SEE EXACTLY HOW MUCH THEY ACTUALLY SUBMIT AS THEY ARE, BE IT PROPOSAL. OKAY. BUT IT INCLUDES LIKE WHERE IT SAYS THE FRANCHISE UTILITY RELOCATIONS. THIS BID INCLUDES ALL OF THAT. YES. BUT

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THANK YOU. I YIELD BACK NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS THE HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR REDEVELOPMENT. YOU ALL KNOW THIS PROJECT VERY WELL. AND, OHPC IS $48 MILLION AS OF NOW. AND WE HAD A DESIGNER HALF AN ASSOCIATES WHO COMPLETED 15% DESIGN. HOWEVER, THIS PROJECT DESIGN IS CURRENTLY ON HOLD, BECAUSE OF THE ONGOING DISCUSSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THE REZONING AND CHARACTER CODE UNTIL THOSE, ISSUES AND DISCUSSION COMPLETED AND WE, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, GET GREEN LIGHTS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT, WE ARE NOT PROCEEDING WITH THE DESIGN EXPENDITURE AT THIS MOMENT. NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS JUST THE INSPIRATION OF HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR REDEVELOPMENT. NEXT SLIDE. SO NOW WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT STREET RECONSTRUCTION AND REPAVING PROJECT. THE FIRST ONE IS A ASPHALT REPAVING PROJECT. THIS IS, BASICALLY A MILL AND OVERLAY TYPE OF PROJECT WHERE THE CONTRACTOR OR THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY REMOVE THE EXISTING ASPHALT AND PAVE AGAIN, SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR STREETS THAT ARE SELECTED OR SUGGESTED TO CITY STAFF, IN THE PAST, OR SELECTED BY THE CITY STAFF. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT, DEVELOPMENT SERVICE DEPARTMENT, AND ITS DIRECTOR, MR. CHARLES BREWER, HAS COMMUNICATED WITH DALLAS COUNTY ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT, AND THE IDEA IS THEY WOULD DO THIS PROJECT, THE CONSTRUCTION WORK, AND CITY WOULD REIMBURSE THEM. VIA INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. AND THE NEXT ONE IS THE 2025 STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. SO THIS IS A COMPLETE RECONSTRUCTION WHEREVER NECESSARY AND MILL AND OVERLAY WHEREVER APPROPRIATE. WE ARE PLANNING TO DO ONLY THE DESIGN IN 2025, NOT THE CONSTRUCTION TO BE MINDFUL OF THE AVAILABLE MONEY AND ALLOCATED MONEY FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS. SO OUR GOAL IS TO FINISH THE DESIGN IN FISCAL YEAR 25 AND THEN DO THE CONSTRUCTION MAYBE IN FISCAL YEAR 26 AND THE PROJECT LIMITS ARE BEING SELECTED BASED ON THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX, PCI REPORT. AND THE LAST ONE IS 2025 ASPHALT STREET PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PROJECT. AS YOU REMEMBER FROM THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX PRESENTATION, WE MENTIONED THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A PROGRAM FOR PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE.

PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PROJECTS ARE LIKE WHEN YOU SEE MINOR CRACKS, MINOR PROBLEMS IN DIFFERENT STREETS. YOU DO SOME PREVENTIVE WORK WHICH ACTUALLY EXTEND THE STREETS LIFETIME. IT IS LESS COST, BUT IT HAS GREAT BENEFITS AND WE ARE SELECTING SOME STREETS BASED ON THE REPORT AND ALSO OUR OBSERVATIONS, QUICK QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE. YES. WHERE IT SAYS ASPHALT REPAVING PROJECT. I DON'T SEE, HAMPTON ROAD THERE, AND MAYBE IT'S SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT HAMPTON ROAD IS NOT A PART OF THOSE. NO SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD FROM PARKVILLE TO SOUTH CITY LIMIT. YES. SO THAT PROJECT, WE ALREADY PUBLISHED THE BID AND WE ARE GOING TO WE RECOMMENDED TO YOU FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT. IT IS INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA ON AUGUST 6TH. SO THAT IS BEING FUNDED IN FISCAL YEAR 24. THESE PRESENTATIONS ARE BASICALLY FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 AND LATER YEAR. THANK YOU. ARE YOU BACK THIS IS THE ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. THE 2023 RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. THE NAME IS 23 BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY STARTED THIS PROJECT IN 2023. WE FINISHED THE DESIGN OF THOSE, EIGHT ALLEYS RECONSTRUCTION. THE OPINION OF POSSIBLE COST IS, APPROXIMATELY $1.5 MILLION. AND WE ARE ACTUALLY PLANNING TO PUBLISH THE BID IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS. THAT IS SOMETIME IN AUGUST. AND PLANNING TO TAKE, BEING THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AWARD. AGENDA ITEM TWO YOU IN OCTOBER 2024. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE WATER AND SEWER AND ALSO PAVING RENOVATION AND REPLACEMENT PROJECT. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS A JOINT COLLABORATION BETWEEN PUBLIC UTILITY DEPARTMENT AND ENGINEERING DIVISION OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICE. BUT THIS PROJECTS IS COMPLETELY FUNDED.

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AND I APPRECIATE THE CLARITY. I AM, I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN A HOT, HOT TOPIC, TO SAY THE LEAST. AND IT AFFECTS, A WHOLE SUBDIVISION, IF NOT MORE SO, SO I DON'T I THANK YOU FOR THE CLARITY. I GUESS WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATION OFFLINE ABOUT IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT SLID.

AND THIS IS A LIST OF MAJOR OR, SIGNIFICANT COSTLY FACILITY PROJECTS. THERE ARE FEW OTHER FACILITIES PROJECT THAT ARE PART OF YOUR BOOK, BUT THESE ARE THE PROJECTS. THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED UNDER FACILITY PROJECTS. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT FACILITY PROJECTS? NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS IS A PROJECT, THESE ARE THE PROJECTS FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. THE TOP ONE IS THE PROJECT THAT YOU ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, THE RECREATION AND AQUATIC CENTER AT

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I'M SORRY. CAN YOU GO BACK ONE? I HAVE A QUESTION. SURE. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.

COUNCILWOMAN COUNCILWOMAN, I WAS I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WOLF CREEK DRAINAGE, AND MR. GODFREY, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STILL GETTING YOUR YOUR YOUR ALL OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF PRIOR CONVERSATIONS, BUT WHEN THIS WHEN STAFF PRESENTED THIS TO COUNCIL, THEY THEY TOLD US THAT FUNDING WAS THERE THROUGH AN, IN A REVENUE FUND THAT WE HAD THAT DEALT WITH JUST INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE. I MAY NOT BE USING THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY, BUT THERE WAS NEVER UP IN THE AIR WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY HAD THE FUNDING AT THAT TIME THAT IT WAS PRESENTED TO US. SO I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, WAS THAT FUNDING SNATCHED AND MOVED TO ANOTHER AREA, I DON'T RECALL THAT. I DON'T THINK WE EVER HAD FUNDING, BUT WE MAY NEED TO GO BACK AND ROLL THE VIDEO. COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM WILL GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT. AND, WE'LL VERIFY THAT AND AGAIN, PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR THE STORMWATER FEE IS PRESENT, A MODEL, ONE OF THE MODELS WOULD BE TO, START ADDRESSING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, NOT JUST THE MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES.

FOR ALL OF THE CREEKS AND, AND, AND THE CHANNEL WAYS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. NEXT SLIDE, BEFORE YOU GO, MY QUESTION WAS AROUND THE CDBG FUNDS. THE ACTUAL BUDGET SAYS 230,000. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS ONLY A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT WE WERE GETTING THIS YEAR, THE PHASE ONE PROJECT, YOU SAID IT WILL START SOON. THIS IS FULLY FUNDED AND IS BASED ON WHAT IS ALREADY LEFT OVER FUNDS. IS THAT CORRECT OR THAT WOULD BE CORRECT? YEAH, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THOUGH.

I AM NOT FULLY VERSED ABOUT THE CDBG FUNDING, ACTUALLY, DOCTOR WILLIAMS MANAGE IT. WE JUST PROVIDE TECHNICAL SUPPORT. BUT BASED ON THE INFORMATION I RECEIVED FROM HER THAT FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION OF PHASE ONE IS AVAILABLE. OKAY. AND I'D LOVE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON PHASE TWO. AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING IN TERMS OF THIS, THIS IS BEING PART OF PHASE ONE. DOES PHASE ONE REQUIRE A PHASE TWO, OR IS THIS ALL INCLUSIVE? EVERYTHING IN PHASE ONE IS ITS OWN THING. AND THEN THERE WILL BE A PHASE TWO FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WILL NEED TO BE FUNDED AS WELL, COUNCILWOMAN CHARLES BIRD, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THE PLANS THAT I HAVE SEEN FOR PHASE ONE IS ONLY A 100% RENOVATION OF THE TWO RESTROOMS. MEN AND WOMEN. THAT IS WHAT PHASE ONE IS AT THIS POINT. OKAY? AND THAT'S THE ONLY EXTREME DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. NO, WE CANNOT GET INTO ANYTHING WITH THE CDBG. WE'RE JUST

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OKAY, TWO MORE SLIDES TO GO. SO THESE TWO SLIDES ARE ACTUALLY FOR THE PROJECTS OF PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. AND SOME OF THESE ACTUALLY, WAS INCLUDED IN, MR. BRANDON LEWIS'S THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. HIS PRESENTATION. BUT, THE TOP ONE IS THE NEW BUILDING FOR A PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT ON WESTMORELAND ROAD PROJECT. THE ESTIMATED COST IS $11.5 MILLION. FEASIBILITY STUDY IS COMPLETED. CONSTRUCTION STUDIES TO BE DETERMINED ON THE NEXT ONE IS WESTMORELAND ROAD, PUMP STATION, ARPA EMERGENCY POWER. THIS WAS FUNDED BY THE FEDERAL FUNDING AND DESIGN IS COMPLETED. CONSTRUCTION START DATE IS I THINK THAT WOULD BE 2005. RIGHT YEAH. YES. YEAH THE WESTMORELAND ROAD PUMP STATION. CAN YOU CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT YOU JUST SAID BETWEEN YOU AND DIRECTOR LACEY, PLEASE? OKAY, GOOD. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO FOR THE ARPA EMERGENCY POWER PROJECT, THAT WAS THE REPLACEMENT GENERATOR AT THE WESTMORELAND PUMP STATION. THAT IS ACTUALLY CORRECT. THE CONSTRUCTION DATE DID START IN MARCH OF 2024. AND ACTUALLY, WE JUST SIGNED THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DOCUMENTS ON LAST WEEK. GRANTED, THEY THEY JUST GO THROUGH ALL OF THE PROGRAMS. THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, I. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT, MR. ALGAFARI? YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH? OKAY. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. SO, FOR THE WESTMORELAND ROAD PUMP STATION REHABILITATION, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED THAT IN MY, PRESENTATION EARLIER. THAT'S GOING TO BID OUT ACTUALLY, IN AUGUST. WE JUST GOT TO SEEK APPROVAL. AND FOR THE BOLTON BOONE PUMP STATION, THAT'S THE, 20 INCH TRANSMISSION LINE, THE RELOCATION OF THE PUMP STATION TO HAMPTON ROAD AND THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK ON WESTMORELAND AND DANIEL DALE ROAD. WE ARE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF DISCREPANCY SINCE WE PUT THESE SLIDES TOGETHER. WE'RE APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 10% THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE IS ONE MORE SLIDE. YEAH STILL ONE I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE OTHER, TWO PROJECTS, HEATH, HEATH CREEK AND BRANCH, SEWER REPLACEMENT. THOSE WERE ACTUALLY PROJECTS THAT WERE IN 60% DESIGN FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, ACTUALLY, BEFORE I GOT HERE. SO IN AN EFFORT TO REALLY JUMP START OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AGAIN, REPAIRING THAT UP WITH REEDSPORT AND STENT PLACE, WHICH ARE TWO STREETS THAT, COME OUT TO COCKRELL HILL ROAD, ALONG WITH THE, GILBERT GILBERT AVENUE SEWER LINE RELOCATION, WHICH IS NEXT TO THE RIVERBEND APARTMENTS BEHIND THE ETERNAL REST FUNERAL HOME. AND THEN THE WEST LAKE DRIVE, THAT WILL BE REPLACING APPROXIMATELY 3100 LINEAR FEET OF SANITARY SEWER DRAIN. WE'RE ACTUALLY IN ABOUT 90% DESIGN RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE'S STILL SOME, DECISION MAKING TO BE MADE BETWEEN PUBLIC UTILITIES AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES REGARDING HOW WE GO ABOUT DOING THE STREET RECONSTRUCTION. BUT WE'RE IN ABOUT 90% DESIGN THERE, AND WE STILL HAVE A CONSTRUCTION DATE OF TO BE DETERMINED, BECAUSE OF FUNDING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU INDEED. THANK YOU, MR. LACEY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I SEE NO LIGHTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OH, THERE IS NO LIGHT. HER HAND IS NOT UP. CAN I ASK MY QUESTION? OKAY. GO AHEAD. I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND UP. I'M SORRY, I JUST HAD TO ASK ON THE, SLIDE WITH THE PARK. EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT. COULD WE GET MORE, MORE DETAILS ON WHICH WHAT PARKS

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NEXT WEEK ALSO, WE WILL BE UPDATING ANY NUMBERS BASED ON THE WORKSHOPS THE LAST TWO DAYS.

AND ALSO ANY ITEMS THAT MAY COME OUT OF COUNCIL SUMMER, RETREAT, AND OF COURSE, COUNCIL WOULD GET AN UPDATE, ELECTRONIC AND HARD COPY IF NEEDED BEFORE THE ADOPTION, AS FAR AS THE CONTINUED BUDGET PROCESS, AT CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON AUGUST 20TH, WE WILL BRING TO CITY COUNCIL A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE TAX ROLL. AND THEN, COUNCIL WILL BE TAKING A RECORD VOTE ON OUR PROPOSED TAX RATE. I DO HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION, AND I KNOW WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT IT.

YOU HAD ALLUDED TO IT EARLY ON OR LAST NIGHT. YOU HAD SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE SB2, I DIDN'T SEE THE IMPACT. AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE SB TWO IMPACT OF THIS BUDGET WAS. AND MAYBE THAT WAS A FURTHER QUESTION THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER YOU GET THE SORRY THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED ON OUR TAX RATE AND HOW IT'S CALCULATE. AND IF WE HAVE TO REDUCE IT, THAT WOULD SHOW THE SB TWO EFFECT. OKAY. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. VERY VALUABLE FOR US AS STAFF AND AS WE MOVE, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD WITH, CONTINUING TO PREPARE THE BUDGET AND, AND, AND ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS. WE'LL WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU. IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL THEM TO US. WE'LL ADD THEM TO THE LIST OF, YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSES THAT WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR YOU NEXT WEEK, WITH THAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND, APPRECIATE STAFF FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE THUS FAR. THANK YOU. MR. GODFREY. THANK YOU. STAFF, I WANT TO UNDERSCORE, HIS COMMENTS. WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING TO GET US HERE, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE AND CONTINUING THIS, THIS JOURNEY. AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN SECOND BY.

EXCUSE ME. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER. I'LL ACCEPT COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM', MOTION AS A AS A SECOND TO THAT, COUNCIL. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED AT 12

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