[E. CONSENT AGENDA Items are listed on the Consent Agenda by the City Manager and are recommended to the City Council for single vote approval. An item( s) may be removed from the Consent Agenda for separate vote at the request of a Councilmember, the Mayor, or the City Manager. ]

ITEMS ARE LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BY THE CITY MANAGER, AND ARE RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR SINGLE VOTE APPROVAL.

AN ITEM MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE VOTE AT THE REQUEST OF A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE MAYOR, OR THE CITY MANAGER.

FIRST, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FOR MARCH 28TH, 2024, AS WELL AS RECOGNITION OF PROCLAMATION HONORING MUNICIPAL CLERKS WEEK, MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH, NATIONAL NURSES WEEK, BUILDING SAFETY MONTH, NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS WEEK, AND ASIAN PACIFIC AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, AS WELL AS CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT FOR A NEW COMBINATION VACUUM AND VALVE TURNER UNIT FOR THE PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT FROM E.H.

WAX COMPANY, UTILIZING BY BOARD CONTRACT NUMBER 68522, IN THE AMOUNT OF $96,230.08, CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT TO PURCHASE A NEW 2024 JOHN DEERE.

THREE £0.20 BACKHOE EXCAVATOR FOR THE PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT FROM RDO EQUIPMENT COMPANY, UTILIZING THE SOURCEWELL CONTRACT NUMBER 011723-J DC IN THE AMOUNT OF $141,935.

CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT TO PURCHASE A NEW ATHLETIC FIELD MOWER FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT FROM TURF AND SOIL MANAGEMENT, LLC, IN THE AMOUNT OF $66,855.

CONSIDER REJECTING THE LOW BID SUBMISSION FROM DAVID.

T. HONG.

LIMITED. LIMITED.

ACCEPTING THE LOWEST SECOND.

LOWEST BID FROM AUSTIN.

FILTER SYSTEM.

AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT.

A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH AUSTIN FILTER SYSTEM IN THE AMOUNT OF $992,510, AND APPROVING A TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET OF $1,131,461.40 TO INCLUDE MATERIAL TESTING, CONSTRUCTION AND CONTINGENCY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A GABION BANK STABILIZATION STRUCTURE ALONG SHORELINE DRIVE AND HONEY TREE LANE.

EXCUSE ME. CONSIDER REJECTING THE LOW BID SUBMISSION FROM LEONARD WATER SERVICES LLC, ACCEPTING THE SECOND LOWEST BID FROM ZONE INDUSTRIES, AND AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH ZONE INDUSTRIES IN THE AMOUNT OF $878,669 FOR THE PRE-PURCHASE OF EIGHT VERTICAL TURBINE PUMPS AND MOTORS FOR THE WESTMORELAND PUMP STATION REHABILITATION PROJECT.

CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BY AMENDING APPENDIX A TITLED FEE SCHEDULE BY AMENDING ARTICLE 28.000 TITLED FIRE CODE FEES.

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CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF DESOTO CODE OF ORDINANCES BY AMENDING CHAPTER ONE TITLED GENERAL PROVISIONS BY AMENDING ARTICLE 1.900 TITLED PARK REGULATIONS BY AMENDING DIVISION ONE TITLE GENERALLY BY AMENDING SECTION 1.901 TITLED DEFINITIONS TO ADD A NEW DEFINITION FOR LEAGUE ATHLETIC PLAYING FIELD FACILITY AND AMENDING SECTION 1.902 TITLED UNLAWFUL ACTS.

CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A SPECIALTY DEED TRANSFER FROM THE TEXAS PARKS AND RECREATION FOUNDATION TO THE CITY OF DESOTO FOR 1024 WOODRIDGE DRIVE, 1129 SOUTH EWELL ROAD AND 1400 SOUTH EWELL ROAD.

AND THAT IS IT.

THANK YOU, MISS THOMAS.

COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING OUR CONSENT AGENDA? DOCTOR MARKS, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

FOR THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENCY ITEMS, NUMBERS TEN AND 11, I KNOW THAT IT'S EXPLAINED IN OUR PACKET.

HOWEVER, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE REJECTING THE LOW BID AND GOING FOR THE SECOND LOWEST.

SO, MADAM MAYOR, THROUGH YOU TO OUR CITY MANAGER, IF OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, IF HE COULD EXPLAIN THAT TO OUR RESIDENTS, PLEASE, JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY AND JUST FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU.

OH, HE CAN DELEGATE IT TO WHOMEVER.

YEAH, I'M NOT SURE.

AND I'LL START.

AND THEN. THEN IF I NEED SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE DIRECTORS, I'LL ASK THEM TO COME UP.

SO FOR ITEM NUMBER TEN, ITEM NUMBER TEN HAS TO DO WITH AGAIN, AS MENTIONED, THE GABION BANK STABILIZATION PROJECT FOR SHORELINE DRIVE AND HONEY TREE LANE. AND THAT'S A THAT WAS A BID SOLICITATION THAT WAS PUT OUT FOR THAT PROJECT.

AND AS A PART OF THAT BID SOLICITATION REQUIREMENT THE, THE, THE BID THAT EVERYBODY WHO SUBMITS A BID FOR THAT PROJECT ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION OF THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE PERFORMED THAT ARE SIMILAR IN NATURE, SIZE, SCOPE AND COMPLEXITY TO THE ONE THAT WE ARE THAT WE HAVE DESIGNED AND WE ARE LOOKING TO GET DONE.

AND WE AND THEY'RE ALSO SUPPOSED TO SUBMIT REFERENCES SO THAT WE CAN VERIFY THAT INFORMATION.

AND SO WHEN STAFF AND THE CONSULTANT TOOK A LOOK AT THE AT THE PROJECTS SUBMITTED BY THE BY THE BIDDER, BY THE LOW BIDDER AS WELL AS COMPARED, YOU KNOW, CHECK THE REFERENCES IN TERMS OF THE TO VERIFY THE SCOPE AND THE COMPLEXITY OF THE WORK THAT WAS PERFORMED PREVIOUSLY.

STAFF AND THE CONSULTING ENGINEERING FIRM JUST FELT LIKE THE THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE SUFFICIENT DOCUMENTATION TO SHOW THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO PERFORM THE LEVEL OF WORK TO THE LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY THAT THIS PROJECT REQUIRES.

AND SO AT THAT, FOR THAT REASON STAFF RECOMMENDS REJECTING THE LOW BID AND GOING WITH THE SECOND LOW BID.

IN THIS CASE, THE THE LOW BID WAS $832,643.

THE SECOND LOW BID, THE ONE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO BE ACCEPTED IS $992,510.

SO THAT IS ITEM TEN.

AND THEN ON ITEM 11, ITEM 11 HAS TO DO WITH OUR WESTMORELAND PUMP STATION REHABILITATION PROJECT.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PUMP STATION.

WE'RE ABOUT 90% COMPLETE.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS PRE PURCHASING SOME OF THE PUMPS AND MOTORS, AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, SO THAT WE WILL HAVE THOSE BECAUSE THERE'S A LONG LEAD TIME FOR PRODUCTION. AND SO WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS AVOID DELAYS IN THE PROJECT.

SO WE WANTED TO HAVE THOSE THAT EQUIPMENT ON SITE WHEN WE NEEDED IT.

AND SO AS A RESULT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS PRE ORDER SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT.

AND AS A PART OF THIS BID PACKET THE CONSULTANT ENGINEERING FIRM AND STAFF PROVIDED A LIST OF ACCEPTABLE EQUIPMENT AND MANUFACTURERS.

SO EQUIPMENT, EQUIPMENT AND BRANDS.

AND SO A, A FIRM IS ALLOWED TO SUBMIT AN ALTERNATE BRAND, BUT THEY HAVE TO SHOW PROOF THAT THAT ALTERNATE BRAND IS COMPATIBLE AND CONSISTENT WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF WHAT WAS SPECKED.

AND SO WHEN THIS FIRM DID, DID SUBMIT A ALTERNATE BRAND, BUT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SUPPORT AND DOCUMENTATION TO SHOW THAT THE THAT THE BRAND AND TYPE OF EQUIPMENT WERE COMPARABLE TO WHAT WE EXPECT.

AND SO FOR THAT REASON, STAFF IS SUGGESTING THAT WE REJECTED LOW BID AND GO WITH THE SECOND LOWEST BID.

AND JUST FOR JUST FOR A POINT OF INFORMATION, THE THE LOW BID WAS.

I WROTE THAT DOWN WRONG.

IS MR. LASER. CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT LOW BID INFORMATION?

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THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THE LOW BID WAS SUBMITTED BY LEONARD WATER SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $670,600.

THE SECOND LOW BID WAS SUBMITTED BY ZONE INDUSTRIES, AND THE AMOUNT OF $878,669.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL FOR THIS EVENING.

SO THAT'S IT.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CALL FOR A MOTION? OKAY. HEARING NONE. COUNCIL.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MADAM MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

SO MOVED. THAT MOTION WAS MADE BY DOCTOR MARK, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

MADAM CITY SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ORDINANCES TO BE READ? YES, MA'AM. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DESOTO, TEXAS.

AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BY AMENDING APPENDIX A TITLED FEE SCHEDULE BY AMENDING ARTICLE 28.000 TITLED FIRE CODE FEES, PROVIDING A REPEALING CLAUSE, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING A SAVINGS CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DESOTO, TEXAS AMENDING CHAPTER ONE TITLED GENERAL PROVISIONS BY AMENDING ARTICLE 1.900 TITLED PARK REGULATIONS BY AMENDING DIVISION ONE TITLE GENERALLY BY AMENDING SECTION 1.901 DEFINITIONS TO ADD A NEW DEFINITION FOR LEAGUE ATHLETIC PLAYING FIELD FACILITY AND AMENDING SECTION 1.902 TITLED UNLAWFUL UNLAWFUL ACTS PROVIDING A REPEALING CLAUSE, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING A SAVINGS CLAUSE, PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A FINE NOT TO EXCEED THE SUM OF $500 FOR EACH OFFENSE, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. MADAM MAYOR PRO TEM CAN WE GET YOUR VOTE? ARE YOU VOTING IN FAVOR OR AGAINST? YES. YES.

IN FAVOR? YES, YES.

SO THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

AND BEFORE SHE READS WE DO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS COMING UP NEXT.

AGAIN, JUST AS A REMINDER, IF YOU WERE NOT HERE EARLIER IN OUR MEETING THE TIME TO SPEAK IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM DURING THE CITIZEN'S COMMENTS HAS BEEN REDUCED FROM 3 MINUTES TO 2 MINUTES.

ALSO, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JUST STATE WHETHER YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST THE ITEM AND NOT SPEAK, YOU ALSO HAVE THE OPTION TO DO THAT WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED.

YOU CAN JUST LET HER KNOW AT THAT TIME.

IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK AND YOU JUST WANT TO GIVE WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE FOR OR AGAINST THE ITEM.

ATTENDEES MAY SPEAK ON ANY ITEM LISTED ON THE AGENDA DURING THAT PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, FOR TOPICS NOT SCHEDULED, ATTENDEES WILL SPEAK DURING CITIZEN APPEARANCE.

MADAM CITY SECRETARY, IF I MAY.

AT THIS TIME YOU WANT TO SHARE THAT, JOE? COUNT. EXCUSE ME, MAYOR PRO TEM.

YOU'LL NEED TO RECUSE YOURSELF FROM THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

DO I NEED TO MAKE ANY KIND OF ANNOUNCEMENT OR JUST LOG OFF? YES. YOU CAN TURN YOUR CAMERA OFF AND WE CAN RECONVENE ON THE NEXT ITEM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ATTENDEES MAY SPEAK ON ANY ITEM LISTED ON THE AGENDA DURING THE PORTION THAT PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, FOR TOPICS NOT SCHEDULED, ATTENDEES WILL SPEAK DURING CITIZEN APPEARANCES.

THE STANDARD TIME LIMIT IS THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND MAY BE MODIFIED AT THE MAYOR'S DISCRETION TO MAINTAIN AN EFFICIENT FLOW OF THE MEETING.

COMMENT CARDS RELATED TO SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS ARE DUE PRIOR TO THE INTRODUCTION OF AN AGENDA ITEM.

HOWEVER, COMMENT CARDS RELATED TO THE CITIZEN APPEARANCES PORTION OF THE AGENDA MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE AMBASSADOR TABLE PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING.

WE HAVE CONTINUED THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM THE APRIL 2ND, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND CONSIDER ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTIES WITHIN THE NEW HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE REZONING

[1. Continue the Public Hearing from the April 2, 2024 City Council meeting and consider Ordinance rezoning properties within the new "Hampton Road Character Code" zoning area. The properties within the "Hampton Road Character Code" zoning area will be rezoned from their current multiple zoning districts to the following five (5) new zoning districts: 1. Urban Center 2. Urban General 3. Neighborhood Services 4. Urban Neighborhood 5. Neighborhood Transition. The applicant is the City of DeSoto. (Case #Z-1514-24)]

AREA. THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE ZONING AREA WILL BE REZONED FROM THEIR CURRENT MULTIPLE ZONING DISTRICTS TO THE FOLLOWING FIVE NEW ZONING DISTRICTS URBAN CENTER, URBAN GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.

NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.

THE APPLICANT IS THE CITY OF DESOTO.

CASE NUMBER Z 1514 DASH 24.

MAKING THAT PRESENTATION IS CHARLES BREWER.

DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR.

GOOD EVENING, MR. BREWER.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL.

HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING THIS EVENING? ON MARCH 26TH, 2024, A PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONDUCTED BEFORE THE CITY'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN ORDER FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE REZONING OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THE NEW HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE ZONING AREA.

DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, 34 PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS WERE PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION, WITH 16 INDIVIDUALS BEING IN OPPOSITION, TEN INDIVIDUALS BEING IN SUPPORT, AND EIGHT INDIVIDUALS BEING NEUTRAL TO THE CITY'S INITIATED REQUESTS TO REZONE ALL THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE NEW HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER ZONE AREA.

FOLLOWING THE DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION MEMBERS, A MOTION WAS MADE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH FIVE MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE.

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DURING THAT PUBLIC HEARING, THE COMMISSION FAILED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL DUE TO THE MOTION RECEIVING VOTES, THREE VOTES IN FAVOR AND TWO VOTES IN OPPOSITION. A PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONDUCTED BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON APRIL THE 2ND, 2024, IN ORDER TO FORMALLY CONSIDER REZONING ALL OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE NEW HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE ZONING AREA.

DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, 17 INDIVIDUALS APPEARED BEFORE OR PRESENTED CITIZEN COMMENT CARDS TO THE COUNCIL, WITH 12 INDIVIDUALS BEING IN OPPOSITION, FIVE INDIVIDUALS BEING IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED, AND FIVE INDIVIDUALS BEING IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.

FOLLOWING DISCUSSION BY THE COUNCIL, A MOTION PREVAILED BY A VOTE OF 7 TO 0 TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY THE 7TH, 2024, WHICH IS THIS EVENING.

SINCE THAT TIME, THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL TWO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS CONDUCTED BY THE CITY'S CONSULTANTS.

OUR CONSULTANT IS HERE WITH A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION TO GIVE THE COUNCIL A QUICK OVERVIEW OF HOW WE GOT HERE WITH SOME OF THE HISTORY, AND ALSO TO UPDATE YOU ON WHAT THEY LEARNED FROM THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL DAYS OF HEARING.

I'LL TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO OUR CONSULTANTS FROM HALF AND ASSOCIATES.

THANK YOU CHARLES. GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS BRAD JOHNSON AND I WORK FOR HALF ASSOCIATES.

AND WE'VE BEEN THE CONSULTANT WORKING WITH THE CITY ON THE CHARACTER CODE DEVELOPMENT OVER THE LAST YEAR PLUS.

SO I DO WANT TO DO SOME REFRESHER IN CASE WE HAVE SOME NEW PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT.

SO YOU'LL SEE SOME SLIDES THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE.

BUT CERTAINLY WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AS WELL.

HE SAID YES.

THAT'S IT. I THINK WE.

I THINK IT'S WORKING. SO OF COURSE, TONIGHT THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS FOCUSED ON A ON A DECISION OF WHETHER TO MAP THE NEW ZONE DISTRICTS THAT ARE ALREADY ADOPTED AND IN THE CHARACTER CODE AND IN THE CITY ZONING CODE AND REGULATIONS TO THE PROPERTIES IN THE CHARACTER CODE AREA. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT INEVITABLY WE TALK ABOUT WHEN WE TALK WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT THIS PROJECT RELATED TO THE ROAD DESIGN RELATED TO THE TEXT AMENDMENT AND THE REQUIREMENTS IN THAT.

BUT OF COURSE, THE FOCUS IS THE REMAPPING AT THIS TIME.

AND AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THIS THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A VERY LONG TIME GOING BACK 20 PLUS YEARS, I BELIEVE CITY COUNCILS IN THIS COMMUNITY HAVE ADOPTED PLANS AND POLICIES THAT ENVISIONED THE HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR TO BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITHIN THIS AREA.

A UNIQUE DESTINATION WITHIN DESOTO THAT ISN'T LIKE OTHER AREAS IN DESOTO.

AND THE GOAL AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, I THINK, WAS TO CREATE REALLY A DOWNTOWN OR MAIN STREET FEEL THAT MANY COMMUNITIES HAVE AND MOST PEOPLE ENJOY BEING IN. AND THIS WAS A PLACE THAT HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, AN ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT WAS DONE THAT LOOKED AT WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT THE CITY COULD DO TO SUPPORT THAT VISION.

AND OUT OF THAT CAME A MORE DETAILED LAND USE STUDY THAT HAD IDENTIFIED DIFFERENT SUBAREAS WITHIN THE CORRIDOR AREA.

THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED A TWO YEAR OR A TAX INVESTMENT TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, EXCUSE ME, WHICH IS A FUNDING TOOL TO DIRECT IMPROVEMENTS AND PAY FOR IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THIS SPECIFIC AREA.

ALSO ADOPTED WAS A STREETSCAPE MASTER PLAN IN 2022, WHICH WAS FOCUSED ON THE REDESIGN OF THE ROAD PRIMARILY AND ADDED TO THIS LIST I SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY PUT ON.

THERE WAS THE ADOPTION OF THE CHARACTER CODE ITSELF, THE TEXT AMENDMENT.

SOME COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

AND THAT VISION AT ITS HEART, AGAIN, IS REALLY ABOUT CREATING A WALKABLE MAIN STREET CHARACTER AND FEEL WITHIN THIS ONE LOCATION WITHIN DE SOTO. AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT PARTS THAT THAT SORT OF MAKE THAT VISION COME TO REALITY, RIGHT? THERE'S A BOLD VISION ABOUT REDESIGNING THE CHARACTER OF THE ROADWAY ITSELF TO MAKE IT A SLOW MOVING STREET WHERE CARS AREN'T FLYING BY, TO CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO WALK AND BIKE.

PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY HAS A BIG IMPACT ON ON THE ABILITY TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT LIKE THOSE PLANS CALLED FOR AS WELL.

SO THINKING CAREFULLY, NOT ONLY ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND HOW IT'S DESIGNED TO FRONT AND IMPACT POSITIVELY THE EXPERIENCE ON HAMPTON ROAD ITSELF, BUT TRYING TO FIND WAYS

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TO INCORPORATE A MIX OF USES, INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE AREA TO SUPPORT REVITALIZATION OF THE CORRIDOR AND NEW BUSINESSES LIKE RESTAURANTS AND DESTINATION LOCATIONS LIKE THAT THAT WERE ENVISIONED IN ALL THOSE PLANS THAT THAT WERE ADOPTED IN THE PAST.

AND THAT'S WHERE THIS CHARACTER CODE COMES INTO PLAY.

THE CHARACTER CODE SETS UP A STANDARD KIND OF ZONING REQUIREMENTS, LIKE REQUIREMENTS FOR MAXIMUM HEIGHT AND SETBACKS FROM PROPERTY LINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT IT ALSO INCORPORATES OTHER VARIABLES THAT ARE AIMED AT CREATING A BETTER PUBLIC ENVIRONMENT.

THEY'RE FOCUSED ON THE INTERFACE BETWEEN PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT HAPPENS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHERE PEOPLE ARE WALKING, WHERE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING, WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT BE BIKING AND TRYING TO CREATE A AGAIN, YOU JUST USE IT AGAIN, THAT KIND OF MAIN STREET, WALKABLE FEEL.

AND SO OUT OF ALL THAT BACKGROUND IS WHERE WE ENDED UP WITH THESE FIVE UNIQUE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT, OF COURSE, WERE ADOPTED AND ARE ON THE BOOKS NOW. HERE'S THE ZONING MAP THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY.

AND I'LL JUST QUICKLY DESCRIBE IN A FEW WORDS EACH OF THESE DISTRICTS, THE URBAN CENTER THAT'S, YOU'LL SEE SHOW UP.

AND IT'S THREE DIFFERENT MAJOR LOCATIONS THAT WERE CALLED OUT IN THOSE PREVIOUS PLANS THAT WERE ADOPTED.

THAT'S A MIXED USE, HIGHLY WALKABLE, HIGHLY PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED AREA.

THE ZONING IS PUT IN PLACE TO RESULT IN THAT TYPE OF AN OUTCOME IF AND WHEN REDEVELOPMENT OCCURS ON THOSE PROPERTIES THAT THAT THOSE AREAS THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS URBAN CENTER COULD BE EXPECTED TO SEE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWO AND UP TO POSSIBLY FIVE STORIES IN HEIGHT IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT SCALE, URBAN, GENERAL, VERY SIMILAR GOALS.

THOSE AREAS THAT ARE SHOWN IN GRAY ON THE MAP ARE URBAN GENERAL SIMILAR GOALS IN TERMS OF WALKABILITY AND PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DESIGN, BUT AT A MUCH LOWER SCALE, ANTICIPATING BUILDINGS BETWEEN 1 AND 3 STORIES WITHIN THAT AREA.

NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES IS REALLY LOOKING FOR SORT OF AN ENHANCED VERSION OF WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, IS MORE OF LIKE A CONVENTIONAL COMMERCIAL SUBURBAN CORRIDOR.

SO THINK ABOUT A WALGREENS OR A RESTAURANT THAT MIGHT BE SET BACK FROM THE STREET A LITTLE BIT.

THERE'S PARKING BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE STREET THAT WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED THERE.

BUT TO CREATE A BETTER PUBLIC REALM AND PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S QUALITY LANDSCAPING, BUFFERING THOSE PARKING AREAS AND THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT ONE'S ABOUT.

URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.

OH, I SHOULD HAVE SAID NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES BETWEEN 1 AND 2 STORIES THERE.

URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THE AREAS IN GOLD THAT'S REALLY AFTER A MIX OF URBAN KIND OF RESIDENTIAL BUILDING FORMS, THINK APARTMENTS, TOWNHOUSES, THINGS OF THAT SCALE. IN THE FUTURE, IF SOMEONE WANTED TO REDEVELOPMENT REDEVELOP THOSE, THOSE FORMS WOULD BE ALLOWED AND THEY WOULD BE EXPECTED TO ACCOMMODATE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 2 AND 4 STORIES.

THREE IS PROBABLY MORE LIKELY OUTCOME, AT LEAST IN THE NEAR TERM, I WOULD THINK.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE, NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.

THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE.

YOU SEE IT IN THE RED HERE.

IT GENERALLY IS FALLING ON THE PERIPHERY OF THE CHARACTER CODE AREA AND PROVIDING A TRANSITION IN SCALE AND CHARACTER BETWEEN THE MORE INTENSIVE AREAS THAT ARE ENVISIONED ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND IN THE SINGLE FAMILY AREAS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CORRIDOR.

BUT, BUT OR THE CHARACTER CODE AREA BUT FLANKING IT.

SO IN THOSE AREAS YOU COULD EXPECT TO SEE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THE CODE WOULD ALLOW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, DUPLEXES, TOWNHOUSES, BUT NOTHING GREATER IN SCALE THAN THAT.

AND THE MAP AMENDMENT ITSELF, OF COURSE, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, REALLY APPLIES THE CHARACTER CODE THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED ON THE ZONING CODE BOOKS.

IT ACTIVATES IT IN THAT WAY.

IT DOES NOT IMPACT EXISTING USES, STRUCTURES, OR ACTIVITIES.

THE ZONING CODE FORESEES THAT HAPPENING WHENEVER CHANGE CHANGES IN ZONING OCCURS.

SO THERE ARE ALLOWANCES FOR THOSE USES TO CONTINUE, EVEN IF THEY AREN'T ALLOWED UNDER THE NEW CODE, PROVIDED YOU AREN'T MAKING ANY MAJOR CHANGES.

THE CODE ANTICIPATES DISASTERS POTENTIALLY HAPPENING LIKE A TORNADO OR FIRE OR SOMETHING AWFUL THAT COULD HAPPEN LIKE THAT, THAT COULD DESTROY PART OR WHOLE OF SOMEONE'S PROPERTY.

THE CODE, AND THIS IS THROUGHOUT DESOTO.

THE BASELINE CODE SAYS THAT IF AS LONG AS 60% OR LESS OF THE STRUCTURE IS STILL INTACT, THAT YOU CAN REBUILD.

LET ME SAY THAT ANOTHER WAY, PROVIDED THAT 60% OR MORE OF THE STRUCTURE IS NOT DESTROYED IN SUCH DISASTER EVENT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS PERMITTED TO REBUILD TO THE EXACT SAME SPECIFICATIONS OF THE EXISTING HOME OR PROPERTY PROVIDED.

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EVEN IF THAT DESIGN THAT EXISTING HOME DOESN'T MATCH OR COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT CODE.

AND IT THIS TYPE OF ZONING CHANGE IS FOCUSED ON WHEN A PROPERTY OWNER WISHES TO REDEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY, SO WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANYBODY TO DO ANYTHING TO THEIR PROPERTY PROACTIVELY.

IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME IN AND REDEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY, THAT'S WHEN THIS CODE COULD KICK IN.

WITH REQUIREMENTS.

THIS IS JUST A LIST OF JUST SOME OF THE OUTREACH THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE WHOLE PERIOD THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE CHARACTER CODE AND JUST GET A SENSE IN SOME OF THESE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE SCALE OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS FROM BIG, LARGER MEETINGS AND PRESENTATIONS TO SMALL ONE ON ONES AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.

AND WE'VE HEARD CERTAINLY LOTS OF SUPPORT FOR THIS, AND WE'VE CERTAINLY HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT IT IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

SO WE DO WANT TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THOSE MAJOR CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD.

ONE WAS, DOES THIS MEAN IF THIS PASSES THAT I HAVE TO CHANGE SOMETHING ON MY PROPERTY? AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO IMMEDIATELY COMPLY WITH THE ZONING CHANGE OR THE NEW ZONING RULES IF IT'S APPLIED.

AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S NON-CONFORMING.

CLAUSES IN THE CODE THAT ALLOW THOSE TYPES OF USES TO CONTINUE OR STRUCTURES TO CONTINUE.

AND SO NO, NO IMMEDIATE CHANGE WOULD BE NEEDED.

IN THAT CASE.

WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO MY PROPERTY VALUE? WE HEARD SOME PEOPLE THINK, OH, MAN, THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO MAKE MY PROPERTY VALUE GO UP.

I HEARD FROM OTHER PEOPLE THAT, OH, THIS IS THIS IS BAD BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO MAKE MY PROPERTY VALUE GO DOWN.

IN ITS ESSENCE, THE CODE IN AND OF ITSELF WON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES OR PROPERTY TAX RATES OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

CERTAINLY, PROPERTY VALUES CAN BE EXPECTED TO PROBABLY RISE OVER TIME, WITH OR WITHOUT THE CODE.

SO I THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN FOR SURE.

BUT THE CODE ITSELF DOESN'T CHANGE, LIKE PUT YOU IN A HIGHER TAX RATE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

HOW DO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL THIS MEANS? ZONING IS COMPLEX.

I WISH IT WASN'T, BUT IT JUST IS.

WE MADE SOME STEPS FROM THE LAST DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD.

WE MADE A NEW MAP THAT WE THINK IS CLEARER AND EASIER TO READ.

WE HEARD THAT LOUD AND CLEAR, SO WE MADE THAT CHANGE.

WE UPDATED THE WEBSITE WITH NEW INFORMATION.

WE CREATED A FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS SHEET THAT WE HAD HERE AND HANDED OUT TO FOLKS AND ALSO PLACED ON THE WEBSITE.

AND CERTAINLY THE STAFF REMAINED AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OF PROPERTY OWNERS AND NEIGHBORS AND BUSINESS OWNERS AND OTHERS.

AND WE HAVE THAT WEBSITE, ENVISION HAMPTON ROAD.COM, THAT HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION ON IT.

I TALKED ABOUT THE CLAUSE RELATED TO A FIRE NATURAL DISASTER ALREADY, SO I WON'T MENTION THAT AGAIN.

BUT JUST IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, AS LONG AS IT'S IN GREATER THAN 60%, YOU ARE ABLE TO REBUILD REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOUR PROPERTY MEETS THE CODE.

WE HEARD CONCERN THAT IF THIS WERE TO PASS, THAT ALL THE SINGLE UNIT USES OR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITHIN THE AREA WOULD BECOME NON-CONFORMING USES. AND WHEN I JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT THE AREAS WHERE MOST OF THE SINGLE FAMILY OCCURS RIGHT NOW THAT'S EXISTING IS IN THE RED OR THE GOLD AREAS, I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT THOSE AREAS WOULD CONTINUE TO ALLOW SINGLE UNIT UNDER THIS PROPOSED CODE, OR THE CODE THAT'S ON THE BOOKS, ACTUALLY.

AND SO THOSE USES WOULD NOT BECOME NON-CONFORMING WAS MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

YEAH. BUT THE STRUCTURES BASED ON THEIR DESIGN COULD BE NON-CONFORMING, MEANING THEY WOULD HAVE TO MOVE UP CLOSER TO THE STREET.

AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, FOR THE SAKE OF THIS DISCUSSION, THAT THOSE RULES ABOUT BUILDINGS BEING PLACED CLOSER TO THE STREET DO NOT APPLY AS WRITTEN IN THE CODE TO SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO THAT ISSUE WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE.

SHOULD YOU WANT, WANT OR NEED TO REBUILD? OR MAKE A CHANGE.

ISN'T THIS TOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT? IF IT HAPPENED EVERYWHERE AS CALLED OUT ON THE MAP? AND I THINK IF ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES WERE TO REDEVELOP AT ONCE IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, THAT WOULD BE PRETTY INTENSIVE.

WHAT WE KNOW AND WORKING IN OTHER COMMUNITIES ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS, IS THAT THESE THINGS, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY DEVELOPED LIKE THIS ONE, IS LARGELY ANYWAY, THERE ARE CERTAINLY SOME VACANT SITES.

THESE TYPES OF CHANGES HAPPEN LONG, LONG PERIOD OF TIME, AS MUCH AS 20 YEARS OR MORE.

AND I WOULD SUSPECT THAT THERE WILL BE MANY PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA THAT WITHIN THAT 2020 YEAR TIME PERIOD WILL NOT REDEVELOP AT ALL, AND MANY THAT WILL BE THERE FOR FOR ALL OF OUR LIFETIMES AND NOT CHANGE.

SHOULDN'T WE REQUIRE DENSITY CAPS OR HIGHER PARKING REQUIREMENTS OR MINIMUM UNIT SIZES? WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.

WE REALLY THINK THE MARKET IS WHAT'S GOING TO DICTATE THAT.

AND IF SOMEBODY CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO SOMETHING CREATIVE AND DOING A MORE EFFICIENT PRODUCT PROJECT, WE WANT TO SUPPORT THAT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE THOSE ELEMENTS WITHIN THE CODE AS DRAFTED AND ADOPTED.

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DOES THIS MEAN I WON'T HAVE ACCESS TO MY PROPERTY? THE ZONING MAP.

THAT'S THAT'S BEFORE YOU GUYS SHOWS SOME POTENTIAL FUTURE ROADS.

THAT IF LARGE AREAS WERE TO REDEVELOP OVER TIME, THAT THOSE ROADS MIGHT BE NECESSARY.

THEY'RE NOT IMMINENT.

THEY'RE BASED ON REDEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTIES.

AND SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS NO ONE'S ACCESS WOULD BE REMOVED BASED ON A PASSING OF THIS CODE.

AND FINALLY, DOES THIS MEAN THAT THE CITY WOULD TAKE MY PROPERTY? UNEQUIVOCALLY, NO, THAT IS NOT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THE CHANGE IN ZONING.

I JUST A REMINDER OF OUR SCHEDULE.

THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

WAS MENTIONED AT THE APRIL 2ND HEARING.

THERE WAS A DIRECTION TO DO MORE OUTREACH, BE AVAILABLE FOR MORE QUESTIONS.

AND SO THERE ON ON APRIL 22ND, APRIL 23RD, AND I SHOULD HAVE INTRODUCED LENNY WHO'S, WHO'S WITH ME ALSO FROM HALF.

LENNY AND I WERE HERE FOR EIGHT SEPARATE MEETINGS OVER THOSE TWO DAYS.

AND SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND OF COURSE, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND A CONTINUATION OF THE PREVIOUS ONE.

SO THIS WAS OUR SCHEDULE ON THE 22ND AND 23RD.

WE WERE MOSTLY CAMPED OUT IN THIS ROOM.

I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT THAT I WAS ABLE TO TALK TO OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, SOME SOME NEW PEOPLE AS WELL, THAT I HADN'T MET OVER THE PROCESS THAT THAT CAME IN.

SO WE, WE HIT THE MORNING, WE HAD MIDDAY AND THEN WE HAD AN EVENING MEETING.

THE VERY LAST MEETING ON THE 23RD, THE 6 TO 730, THE EITHER Y'ALL WERE IN HERE OR I THINK THERE'S A PLANNING AND ZONING WAS IN HERE.

SO WE MOVED OVER TO THE CORNER THEATER TO, TO HAVE THAT VERY LAST MEETING.

AND BASED ON A HEAD COUNT, LIKE A ROUGH HEAD COUNT, I THINK WE HAD COUNTED 93 PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP OVER THE COURSE OF THOSE EIGHT MEETINGS. I LOOKED AT THE SIGN IN SHEETS, I LOOKED AT THEM, AND WE HAD 69 PEOPLE SIGN IN.

SO WE PROBABLY HAD SOME PEOPLE MAYBE THAT CAME AS A COUPLE AND ONLY ONE PERSON SIGNED IN, OR MAYBE SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO SIGN IN.

BUT I HAVE DATA ON THE 69 PEOPLE THAT DID SIGN IN.

I CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU NOW.

SO OVER THOSE TWO DAYS, 83% OF THE PEOPLE THAT SIGNED IN WERE DESOTO RESIDENTS.

73% OWNED PROPERTY IN THE AREA.

NOW, THESE ANNOUNCEMENTS WENT OUT TO PEOPLE BOTH WITHIN THE REZONING AREA BUT ALSO WITHIN 400FT, I BELIEVE OF THE REZONING AREA.

AND SO I WOULD INTERPRET THAT IN THE AREA CONSERVATIVELY TO INCLUDE PEOPLE BOTH WITHIN THE 400FT, BUT ALSO WITHIN THE ACTUAL AREA OF THE REZONING.

AND THEN 6.9% WERE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE AREA AS WELL.

AND SO THOSE NUMBERS TRACK PRETTY CLOSE WITH THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD BACK IN EARLY FEBRUARY.

THERE WAS A SLIGHT DROP DOWN IN THE NUMBER OF BUSINESS OWNERS THAT CAME, BUT THE OTHER TWO CATEGORIES I MENTIONED WERE RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HEARD WE HEARD A LOT OF PERSPECTIVES IN IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS I MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM WERE ONE ON ONE CONVERSATIONS, LIKE YOU SEE ME HAVING WITH THIS GENTLEMAN IN THE TOP PICTURES.

OTHERS WERE KIND OF BIGGER GROUP DISCUSSIONS.

YOU KNOW, THERE WERE WIDE RANGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP THAT UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE OBJECTIVE WAS HERE.

AND THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF IT.

THEY WANTED TO SEE THIS KIND OF THING COME TO DESOTO, AND THEY THOUGHT THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE AND AND THAT DESOTO WAS DESERVING OF A KIND OF A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A DISTRICT LIKE THIS. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WERE KIND OF INTERESTED AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE CHANGE, BUT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW IT IMPACTED THEM.

IS THIS GOING TO CHANGE SOMETHING ON MY PROPERTY? IS THIS GOING TO MAKE MY PROPERTY TAXES GO UP? THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS.

WE HAD NEW PEOPLE SHOW UP, PEOPLE THAT I HADN'T SEEN BEFORE BECAUSE THEY GOT SOMETHING TO MAIL OR THEY SAW THE SIGNS THAT WERE OUT IN THE MEDIANS.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY DIDN'T SEE THOSE.

AND SO WE HAVE FOLKS COMING UP FOR THE FIRST TIME.

IT'S LIKE, WHAT IS THIS? YOU KNOW, LIKE, CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY IS DOING HERE? SO THAT TYPE OF GROUP AND THEN CERTAINLY WE HAD PEOPLE THAT JUST OPPOSE THIS.

I THINK THEY, THEY'RE CERTAINLY NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T ONLY DISAGREE WITH THE ELEMENTS THAT COME ALONG WITH THE REZONING OF THESE PROPERTIES AND THAT ARE IN THE ZONING CODE, BUT THEY DISAGREE WITH THE VISION THAT'S LAID OUT IN THOSE PLANS THAT PRECEDED THIS, THIS ZONING CODE CHANGE.

I DON'T WANT THE ROAD TO CHANGE.

I DON'T WANT APARTMENTS AROUND ME.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT KIND OF CHANGE HERE.

IT'S GOOD AS IT IS.

FAIR POSITION FOR SURE.

AND THEN ALWAYS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST ZEROED IN AND FOCUSED ON THE ROADWAY.

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SO A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS, OF COURSE, THAT'S NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY, BUT WE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE ROADWAY AND THE IDEA OF CHANGING THE CONFIGURATION OF THAT.

WE CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING, AS WELL AS ALL THE SEVERAL MEETINGS WE'VE HAD BEFORE THIS WITH THREE KEY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE THINK ARE WORTH CONSIDERATION BY CITY STAFF.

AND THERE MAY BE OTHERS.

I DID WANT TO MENTION I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED IT BEFORE, BUT THESE TYPES OF CODES ARE KIND OF LIVING DOCUMENTS.

SOMETIMES WE WOULD SAY YOU KNOW, INEVITABLY CHANGES WILL BE MADE TO THIS CODE.

SOMETHING WILL COME UP, SITUATIONS WILL ARISE, PEOPLE.

YOU'LL SOMETIMES NEED A VARIANCE.

THOSE THINGS WILL HAPPEN.

THEY'RE ANTICIPATED AND THEY'RE HEALTHY.

IF YOU SEE A VARIANCE COMING THROUGH OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THAT MIGHT TELL YOU THAT IT'S TIME TO MAKE A CHANGE IN THE ACTUAL CODE.

RIGHT? SO THAT KIND OF MAINTENANCE IS REQUIRED FOR A CODE LIKE THIS.

BUT MOVING ON FROM THAT JUST QUICKLY ON THESE THREE RECOMMENDATIONS WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THIS CONCERN ABOUT IF A FIRE OR A TORNADO OR ONE OF THESE NATURAL DISASTERS WAS TO DESTROY AN ENTIRE PROPERTY.

AND THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THIS AREA THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WOULD NO LONGER ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY.

SO MORE THAN 60% OF MY HOME IS DESTROYED.

I CAN'T REBUILD.

AND WE HEARD THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

AND SO WE WE LISTENED TO THAT.

I THINK IT'S A TOTALLY FAIR CONCERN, OF COURSE.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH STAFF.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU TO CONSIDER AND TO STAFF TO CONSIDER A CHANGE IN THE ZONING CODE LANGUAGE THAT'S ADOPTED TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY FOR SINGLE FAMILY USES TO REBUILD, EVEN IF 100% OF THE PROPERTY IS DESTROYED BY A FIRE OR SOME OTHER NATURAL DISASTER LIKE THAT.

YOU DON'T THINK THAT COMPROMISES THE VISION? THAT'S THAT'S BEEN SET FORTH IN THE PREVIOUS PLANS OR THAT WAS ESTABLISHED WITHIN THIS CODE OR ITS INTENT, AND PROVIDE SOME FLEXIBILITY AND ASSURANCES FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA, ESPECIALLY WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS WHERE THOSE USES WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED IN THE FUTURE.

THE SECOND ONE IS THE DISCUSSION WE'D HAD SOME WITH COUNCIL MEMBER RAPHAEL AND OTHERS ABOUT THE ALLOWANCES FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION AND URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICTS.

THAT MAYBE SINCE THIS COULD HAPPEN ON SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS COULD COME AND WANT TO ADD A UNIT TO THE REAR OF THEIR PROPERTY OR ANOTHER LOCATION IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR THAT AND CAN MEET THE STANDARDS THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN SOON AND QUICKLY AND MIGHT HAVE SOME PRETTY NEAR TERM IMPACTS IF SOMEBODY WAS INTERESTED IN DOING THAT, AND MIGHT IT BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, AT LEAST FOR NOW IN THE NEAR TERM? WHILE WE'RE KIND OF ROLLING OUT THESE THESE REGULATIONS AND WE HEARD THAT.

AND SO WE WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU GUYS TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT.

IT'S AN EASY CHANGE IN THE CODE IF PEOPLE WERE BEHIND THAT.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE THAT CHANGE, TO CHANGE IT FROM A PERMITTED USE TO A USE WITH A SPECIAL EXCEPTION PERMIT.

IT'S CHANGING AN X TO A S IN A IN A CHART.

THE THIRD ONE IS NOT RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO ZONING.

BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE, AS WE DISCUSSED THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT WHERE'S THAT TRAFFIC GOING TO GO, WHAT TRAFFIC ANALYSIS HAS BEEN DONE.

SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH YOU GUYS.

AND YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT, THAT THERE'S EXCESS CAPACITY ON THESE OTHER ROADWAYS.

BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME CONCERN THAT THERE MIGHT BE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC TO A GREATER EXTENT ON CERTAIN ROADS THAN THERE IS TODAY IN THE LONG TERM, AFTER HAMPTON ROAD IS IS REDESIGNED IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY CLOSELY MONITOR THAT IF WE START TO SEE THAT TYPE OF TRAFFIC AGAIN AFTER THE ROAD CHANGES INCREASING OR EXPANDING WITHIN NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS, WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT MITIGATIONS FOR THAT.

THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT COULD DO THAT TO SLOW THAT TRAFFIC DOWN, WHETHER IT'S NARROWING LANES OR IT'S SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THIS, BUT ROAD HUMPS OR SPEED HUMPS OR OTHER TYPES OF METHODS LIKE THAT TO SLOW THAT TRAFFIC DOWN.

IF WE DO, IN FACT SEE THAT TYPE OF INCREASE OR TICK UP AND CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC.

SO THAT'S WHERE I WANTED TO LEAVE IT JUST WITH THOSE THREE RECOMMENDATIONS.

REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL LISTENING AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I DID WANT TO ADD TO THAT FIRST BULLET UP THERE AFTER YOUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING. YOU KNOW, WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT REGULATIONS DEALING WITH NONCONFORMITY.

WE READ THE, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE TO FIND OUT WHAT THOSE REGULATIONS ARE.

WE WANTED TO ALSO SEE, DOES OTHER CITIES HAVE THE 60% MARKING AND IS THAT 60% STATUTE LIMIT IN THE CODE? AND IN OUR READING OF 211, WE DID NOT SEE THAT PERCENTAGE.

SO I ALSO HAD MY PLANNING MANAGER TO DO A KIND OF A RESEARCH WITH OTHER CITIES TO FIND OUT WHAT ARE THEY DOING.

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AND WE FOUND OUT IT'S IT'S IT'S NOT ALWAYS 60 LOOKING AT LANCASTER, GRAND PRAIRIE, RED OAK AND FERRIS, THEY HAVE A 50% MARKING LEVEL.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER CITY COMPARABLE TO US THAT HAD THE SAME PERCENTAGE IS CEDAR HILL.

WE ALSO FOUND ONE CITY THAT DID NOT HAVE A PERCENTAGE MARKED AT ALL.

AND WHAT THEIR REGULATION THAT WAS BOX SPRINGS WITH THEIR REGULATION ESTABLISHES WAS THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO REBUILD WITHIN ONE YEAR.

I'M MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THEY DON'T WANT TO CONSIDER THAT BLIGHT.

MAYBE THAT TIME FRAME.

WOULD ALLOW THE PERSON TO WORK WITH THEIR INSURANCE COMPANY.

BUT WE DID DO A RESEARCH AND WE JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU, THAT THAT IS DOABLE.

I'M NOT SURE THAT IT CAN BE.

WE'LL HAVE TO GET TO SPEAK WITH OUR ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHERE THEY CAN BE JUST FOR SINGLE FAMILY, OR WHETHER IT'S A BLANKET NON CONFORMING ANYBODY.

PERIOD. BUT WE WOULD WORK WITH OUR ATTORNEYS AND I DON'T KNOW IF JOE'S GOING TO ADD MORE, BUT I JUST WANT TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO YOU.

YOU SAW ME MAKE A MOTION TOWARDS THE MIC.

YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR DIFFERENT USE.

YOU KNOW THE REQUIREMENTS.

THANK YOU, MR. BREWER. DOES THAT CONCLUDE STAFF'S PRESENTATION AS WELL AS OUR CONSULTANTS? THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WE ALSO APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING THE ADDITIONAL TIME THAT COUNCIL REQUESTED.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS SOMEWHAT FRUITFUL IN TERMS OF CONTINUING TO EXTRACT THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS, BUT ALSO TO BRING BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK.

SO WE APPRECIATE THAT AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER RAFAEL TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COUNCIL. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION.

THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

WE DO HAVE CITIZEN COMMENT CARDS AGAIN, JUST AS A REMINDER.

THE TIME TO SPEAK IS TWO MINUTES.

SO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU TAILOR YOUR COMMENTS FOR THAT TIME FRAME.

HOWEVER, IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK OR IF YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME, YOU CAN LET US KNOW WHETHER YOU ARE FOR OR AGAINST THE THE THE PROJECT. AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW WITH WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED MADELINE BAUER OR BOWER? BAYLOR BAKER.

CAN YOU PUT THE MAP BACK THAT? YOU KNOW, PUT THE MAT BACK THEN.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD.

AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

MY CONCERN IS THIS.

I'VE SEEN SEVERAL MAPS AND CAN I APPROACH THE MAP, OR IS THAT GOING TO BE A DUMB MAP? CAN I APPROACH THE MAP? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

OKAY, SO I'M IN THE TRANSITION AREA.

I LIVE BETWEEN SPOONER AND DALTON.

THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A ROAD REDBUD EVENTUALLY.

COME BACK THROUGH THERE.

I MEAN, EVERYBODY KEEPS SAYING THERE'S NO PLAN, BUT SOMEBODY'S GOT A PLAN.

SO WHO'S GOT THE PLAN? NO ONE. ARE YOU ALL GOING TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, OR ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THEM DOWN AND RESPOND TO ME? I PUT MY EMAIL ON THERE AND I'VE ASKED BEFORE WHO HAS THE PLAN? BUT GO AHEAD AND USE YOUR TWO MINUTES AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, THEY'LL TAKE THE QUESTIONS UP HERE AND GET BACK WITH YOU ON THOSE.

OKAY. THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.

MY SECOND QUESTION IS WHAT DOES TRANSITION NEIGHBORHOOD AREA MEAN TO ME AS A HOMEOWNER? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO ME? DOES THAT BECAUSE WE FOUGHT THIS ONCE BEFORE.

Y'ALL PUT AN APARTMENTS UP BEHIND OUR BACKYARDS.

WE'RE ON VINCE LANE.

THERE'S A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT BEHIND THERE.

SO THAT'S MY SECOND QUESTION.

AND MY THIRD QUESTION WILL BE WHEN WILL I GET THE ANSWERS? NO ANSWER.

THANK YOU. AND, GIBSON.

OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING.

IN GIBSON.

I'VE LIVED IN DE SOTO SINCE THE MID 70S.

I BELIEVE ALL THIS IS ABOUT AS CRAZY AS DRIVING DOWN CHATTIE ROAD.

I BELIEVE IF THIS REZONING SHOULD BE DETERMINED AND YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS, I THINK YOU OWE THE CITIZENS

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LIKE US WHO HAVE LIVED IN THIS CITY FOR A VERY LONG TIME TO ALLOW US TO VOTE ON IT.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE SEEN ANY BOND ELECTIONS FOR AQUATIC CENTERS OR ALL THIS MAJOR SPENDING.

AND I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM GIVING A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE OUR LIVES.

I'M NOT DIRECTLY IN THIS AREA NOW, BUT I HAVE EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE YOU'LL GO ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE CITY LIMITS IF YOU GET YOUR WAY THIS TIME. YES.

IT'S BEEN KICKED DOWN THE ROAD SINCE 2005.

YOU'VE KICKED OUR INFRASTRUCTURE DOWN THE ROAD SINCE 2000.

WHATEVER. I WALKED 5 TO 7 MILES OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY DAY.

I SEE ITS BROKENNESS, ITS ITS DECLINE.

SO MANY INVESTMENT PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO RENTAL PROPERTIES THAT NOBODY'S HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR TAKING CARE OF.

CODE ENFORCEMENT KNOWS.

CODE ENFORCEMENT KNOWS ME WELL.

SO DOES THE WATER DEPARTMENT, AND I TEND TO WANT TO FIX EVERYBODY'S PROBLEMS THAT I SEE ON MY 5 TO 7 MILE WALK, INCLUDING THE STRAY DOGS THAT I HAVE TO PEPPER SPRAY.

I THINK THE SPENDING PRIORITIES HAVE BEEN JUST OUT OF TOUCH.

THE WHOLE NON CONFORMING THING IS A PROBLEM FOR ME.

THE LANE REDUCTION YOUR IMPACTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS CITY NEEDS TO FIX WHAT'S BROKEN NOW AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT I WOULDN'T WANT TO WALK TO, TO PAY TO BUY $32 LIABILITY INSURANCE OR A VAPE SHOP OR WHATEVER.

THOSE THINGS ARE PROBLEMS. MISS GIBSON, THAT CONCLUDES YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. JAMES HAYNES.

JAMES HAYNES.

MR. HAYNES, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

JAMES HAYNES. I'VE LIVED IN MINNESOTA SINCE AUGUST OF 1981.

ME AND MY FAMILY.

I HAVE ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT COMMENTS.

ONE I DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL I WAS READING THE Q&A, BUT APPARENTLY IT WAS SOMETHING WAS DECIDED ON THE STREET IN 2005 OR WHATEVER.

WE NEVER GOT WORD OF THAT, I DON'T THINK.

BUT QUICKLY.

I THINK THE HAMPTON ROAD CHANGES FROM FROM WHAT IT IS NOW TO THE TWO LANES AND A PASSING LANE OR AN A TURN LANE.

IT'S NOT A PASSING LANE FOR WHAT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT TWO MILES ON HERE.

IT'S GOING TO CREATE A BOTTLENECK IN A ROAD THAT GOES FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE COUNTY TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE COUNTY.

WE LIVE ON A SHORT STREET THAT YOU HAVE TO GET OUT ON THE HAMPTON ROAD.

BEEN THERE ALL THAT TIME? LEFT TURNS.

NOT MUCH FUN SOMETIME, BUT NONETHELESS, IF IT HAD ONLY TWO LANES THE BACK UP, INSTEAD OF BEING A HALF A MILE, IT'S GOING TO BE TWO OR MORE THAN THAT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S PRACTICAL.

THE OTHER WHAT IS? NOBODY'S TALKED ABOUT COST.

WHAT'S THIS GOING TO COST? HOW IS IT GOING TO BE PAID FOR? ARE THEY GOING TO BE BOND ELECTIONS? YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COLLECT ENOUGH IN SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAX TO PAY OUT PAY OFF ALL OF THIS.

AND WE HAVE WE AS CITIZENS HAVE GIVEN HAVE RECEIVED NO INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST AND WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT, HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.

WE'LL PAY FOR IT. WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO KNOW HOW THEY TALK ABOUT SHOPS AND WALKING.

AND COVID CHANGED A LOT OF THINGS IN OUR WORLD.

BRICK AND MORTAR STORES ARE CLOSING AND DECLARING BANKRUPTCY EVEN THIS YEAR STILL.

BUT I THINK IT'S A PIPE DREAM.

THIS IDEA THAT IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.

NO, NOT NECESSARILY.

I THINK IT'S JUST NOT PRACTICAL.

AND I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE RECONSIDERED.

ESPECIALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS GOING TO BE DOING TO TO HAMPTON ROADS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. DAVID JONES.

MR. JONES, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE.

FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS DAVID JONES.

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I LIVE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.

I'M A COMMERCIAL BROKER AND I REPRESENT ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON NORTHAMPTON, DOCTOR, WHO'S ON THE PROPERTY AT 722 NORTHAMPTON FOR MORE THAN 35 YEARS, AND FOR THE 35 YEARS THAT HE'S ON THE PROPERTY, IT'S BEEN A CONFORMING USE.

IT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL.

AND WITH THIS REZONING IT BECOMES A NON CONFORMING USE.

AND MY CONCERN AND HIS CONCERN ARE TWOFOLD.

NUMBER ONE IS THAT HIS BUILDING CAN BE TORN DOWN FROM A FIRE OR FROM FROM A, A NATURAL DISASTER, JUST LIKE A RESIDENCE CAN.

AND THE INSURANCE IS ONLY GOING TO PAY FOR THE COST OF WHAT ACTUALLY HAS BEEN TORN DOWN, WHICH MEANS IMMEDIATELY WHEN IT GETS TORN DOWN, HE BECOMES A NON-CONFORMING USE.

AND HE ULTIMATELY, IF HE WANTS TO BUILD BACK, HAS TO BUILD BACK A MINIMUM OF TWO STORIES.

THAT'S THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT IF, IN FACT, IT BECOMES VACANT AND THE USE BASICALLY CLOSES UP AND WE TRY TO START RELEASING THE PROPERTY, WE HAVE A MAXIMUM OF SIX MONTHS UNDER THE CODE TO GET IT RELEASED, OR IT'S CONSIDERED TO BE ABANDONED.

WHEN IT BECOMES ABANDONED, IT ALSO BECOMES A NONCONFORMING USE.

AND ULTIMATELY, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE TO BASICALLY BUILD THE BUILDING REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE USE IS TO THE TWO STORY STANDARD.

IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S REALISTIC AND IT'S SIMPLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

ALSO, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE LOT IS VERY NARROW, IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO BASICALLY SET IT UP TO WHERE ULTIMATELY IT MEETS SOME OF THE OTHER DESIGN CRITERIA THAT'S SET FORTH IN THE IN THE CODE.

WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THE REZONING.

IT'S JUST THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE FLEXIBILITY WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS, JUST AS MUCH AS THERE ARE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. JONES. CANDACE BOWMAN, SHE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, SHE SAYS, BUT I AM OPPOSED TO REZONING THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE.

CINDY MARCIL.

THANK YOU. HERBERT MARSH.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS HERBERT MARSH.

I RESIDE IN MIDLOTHIAN CURRENTLY.

SINCE 1988.

I'VE EITHER BEEN LIVING IN DE SOTA OR RUNNING A BUSINESS.

I'D LIKE TO SAY I APPRECIATE OUR MAYOR AND OUR COUNCIL AND THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR CITY AND YOUR ATTITUDE.

I THINK EVERYBODY HERE IN THIS ROOM PROBABLY HAS AN ATTITUDE THAT WE WANT DESOTO TO SURVIVE, TO THRIVE.

AND WE WANT THIS TO BE A VIBRANT AND BE ALIVE COMMUNITY.

AND I APPRECIATE THE YOUNG PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT, THE STUDENTS, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE CONCERN FOR OUR ANIMAL CITIZENS.

TO MY POINT, TONIGHT, I'M OPPOSED TO THE THE CHARACTER CODE AS IT'S CURRENTLY EXIST AND ITS DEFINITIONS CERTAINLY WHERE MY BUSINESS IS ON HAMPTON ROAD, I'M OPPOSED TO THIS IDEA OF GOING FROM FOUR LANES TO TWO LANES.

I THINK MORE STUDIES NEED TO BE DONE ON THE TRAFFIC COUNT.

MR. BRAD, I FORGET YOUR LAST NAME.

HE DIRECTED ME AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS TO LOOK ON THE WEBSITE.

59 PAGES.

I COME TO DETERMINE THAT THE TRAFFIC COUNTS THAT YOU TOLD ME TO LOOK AT.

THEY WERE OVER A PERIOD OF FOUR DAYS OUT OF SEVEN DAY WEEK, 50%.

TWO OF THOSE DAYS.

FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, THURSDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.

THEY WERE THAT THAT DATA IS SKEWED AND AND SOMEBODY MENTIONED IN 2020 WHEN THAT DATA WAS COLLECTED THAT WAS DURING A GLOBAL PANDEMIC. SO THERE WAS A LOT LESS TRAFFIC GOING ON THERE.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT THOSE STUDIES.

THIS PROJECT AS THE GENTLEMAN OVER THERE SAID, THIS AFFECTS A LOT OF HOMES IN MINNESOTA.

AND AGAIN, I WANT TO SODA TO THRIVE AND SURVIVE.

OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SPOKE AT OTHER MEETINGS.

AND ON THAT MAP, BESIDES THE MILE OR SO FROM PLEASANT RUN TO BELTLINE, THERE'S OTHER ARTERIES THROUGH MISTER MARSH.

THAT CONCLUDES YOUR TIME. GOOD.

THANK YOU. CYNTHIA AND I APOLOGIZE.

I CAN'T PRONOUNCE THE LAST NAME CYNTHIA.

ENGLISH. THANK YOU.

OKAY. I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK, BUT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS CYNTHIA ENGLISH AND I LIVE IN DESOTO.

AND MY HOUSE WILL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED WITH THE CHANGE.

BUT I AM FOR IT.

DESOTO NEEDS TO STOP LIVING IN THE PAST.

WE NEED GROWTH.

WE NEED DEVELOPMENT.

I'M TIRED OF HEARING TRAFFIC AND CRIME.

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WE NEED GROWTH.

WE'RE NOT THE DESOTO OF 30 YEARS AGO.

IT'S TIME TO STOP LISTENING TO ALL THE NO'S AND DO WHAT'S BEST FOR EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU. ROY MCALLISTER.

ROY MCALLISTER.

MCALLISTER. JAIME LOPEZ.

OKAY. EXCUSE ME, IS THAT IS JAMIE LOPEZ.

YOU'RE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST? IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. ONE.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

DETECTIVE CARL MARIA SINES.

DEBBIE HICKS.

CINDY BLOOMFIELD.

GOOD EVENING. I'M CINDY BLOOMFIELD AND I LIVE IN DESOTO, AND OUR PROPERTY WOULD BE IN THE URBAN CENTER PORTION IF THE ZONING GOES THROUGH. I'M OPPOSED TO THAT.

BUT MOSTLY I'M OPPOSED TO HAMPTON ROAD CHANGES, LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND I GUESS SHAME ON ME IF YOU'VE ALREADY VOTED ON THAT.

AND I WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS TYPE OF MEETING.

SHAME ON ME. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT.

BUT I'M LIKE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT THE ROAD.

I ALSO WANT TO RECOMMEND THAT THE HALF GUYS GET A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THEIR PROFESSIONALISM, THEIR QUESTION ANSWERING ALL THE TIME THAT THEY SPENT WITH US BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT IT'S SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS.

WHEN WE WERE AT THE MEETING WITHOUT ANY CITY STAFF OR REPRESENTATIVES HERE AT THE MEETING I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN ONE OF THE PROPOSED ROADS BECAUSE AS IT SHOWS ON THE MAP, LINDA LYNN EXTENDING TO BARROWS ROAD WOULD GO THROUGH MY LIVING ROOM.

SO I'M PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PART OF THE MAP.

AND I'D LIKE TO BE INVOLVED MORE WITH THE CHANGES AND THINGS ON HAMPTON ROAD THAT MIGHT IMPACT THAT.

WE'VE BEEN HERE. I'VE BEEN HERE ALL MY LIFE TILL TODAY.

AND AND I'M A UNIQUE CITIZEN IN THAT AND OUR HOUSE HAS BEEN THERE 70 YEARS, AND I HATE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN TO IT, LIKE A ROAD THROUGH THE MIDDLE.

I HOPE YOU CONSIDER ALL OF OUR NEEDS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS BLOOMFIELD.

DONNA ANDERSON.

A POST. ALMA GOODWIN.

ALMA GOODWIN, DESOTO, TEXAS.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

I THINK I WAS I KNOW I WAS HERE WHEN ALL THE DISCUSSIONS STARTED BACK IN 2005, AND THERE'S BEEN MANY MEETINGS AND MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR ME, AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE FOR ME TO PARTICIPATE AND GIVE MY INPUT.

I WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED WHEN I HEARD THE LAST MEETING THAT THERE WAS SO MUCH OPPOSITION AGAINST IT, AND THERE HAD BEEN SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS TO TO GIVE THEIR INPUT.

I THINK COUNCILWOMAN MARX SAID IT BEST.

SHE TALKED ABOUT KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

AND I WANT TO SAY THAT THIS DIDN'T START WITH THIS COUNCIL.

AS WE ALL KNOW, IT STARTED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO AND I WAS MUCH YOUNGER THEN.

I WAS EXCITED ABOUT IT THEN.

I CONTINUED TO REMAIN EXCITED ABOUT IT, BUT I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED THAT AT THIS RATE I WON'T SEE IT.

BUT IN ANY EVENT, I'M STILL FOR IT.

I THINK WE NEED THE GROWTH THAT THE YOUNG THAT THE LADY BEFORE ME TALKED ABOUT.

I'M NOT GOING TO BE SELFISH AND THINK ABOUT ALL THE NEGATIVE THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN, THAT COULD HAPPEN WITH ANYTHING.

I THINK WE HAVE TO BE FORWARD THINKING.

WE HAVE TO BE VISIONARIES, AND WE HAVE TO DO THINGS FOR THE GOOD OF ALL.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE I'M OUT OF NO, I'M NOT OUT OF MY TIME.

I SAW A ZERO UP THERE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO I DO AND I DO SAY THAT, AS HAS BEEN STATED, DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE FOR THE MAJORITY.

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WE'RE ABOUT 57,000 FOLKS STRONG, AND WE CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON A SMALL GROUP, EVEN IF IT'S ME THAT'S BEING IMPACTED.

THE COUNCIL HAS TO LOOK HIGH AND WE'RE DOWN IN THE TRENCHES.

YOU'RE UP HIGH AS THE VISIONARY AND I ASK THAT YOU VOTE YES FOR THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. SUSANA VILA.

SUSANNA VILLA.

IN FAVOR MARY BONAPARTE.

MARY BONAPARTE.

MY RESIDENT IS DESOTO.

ALTHOUGH I AM NOT AFFECTED BY WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE HAMPTON ROAD.

I JUST WANT YOU TO CONSIDER SOMETHING.

AND I CAN'T SAY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

I HADN'T BEEN TO ANY OF THE MEETINGS.

NO. VERY LITTLE.

BUT. SO THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE, IN THE WORDS OF MISS JUDGE JUDY OR KERFUFFLE LOOK AT THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, BECAUSE WHAT I'VE SEEN AND I THINK THAT WAS A CONCERN OF THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE EARLIER, YOU CAN BUILD FROM 300FT² TO, WHAT, 15, 2000FT²? THAT'S A CONCERN.

THAT'S MY CONCERN.

AS MISS ELMA JUST STATED, IT'S IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.

AND THAT'S ONE.

THE OTHER WAS BECAUSE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE STRUCTURE, I SAID, HEY, KIND OF LOOKED LIKE BEAR STREET, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OLD.

WE'RE THE PROJECTS USED TO BE THAT THEY BUILD UP.

AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE OF THE SPECIAL USE PORTION OF IT AND ZONING, I THINK THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE THIS AND NEVER LET IT GO SO THAT WE CAN REMAIN DESOTO THE BEST SO THAT WE WILL HAVE OVERSIGHT OVER THAT.

IF NOT, AND I CAN CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE WHEN THEY TRIED TO BUILD APARTMENTS WHERE I LIVE, WE WE PACKED THE CHAMBERS. SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE ZONING.

THANK YOU. SHADAB PARVEZ IN FAVOR.

THANK YOU. AYSHA AHMAD.

MY NAME IS AHMED.

I'M FROM IRVING.

I HAVE A PROPERTY HERE IN DESOTO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK HERE FOR TWO MINUTES.

I'LL TAKE MY TIME.

I RESPECTFULLY AGREE WHAT FEW GENTLEMEN TOLD HERE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS STREET.

I HAVE A PROPERTY, AS I SAID, ON HAMPTON ROAD, AND I NEED THE DEVELOPMENT.

I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN DALLAS HAS BEEN GROWING TREMENDOUSLY, BUT DESOTO HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, REMAIN SAME.

SO I'M FOR IT.

THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BRING BRIGHT FUTURE AND INCREASE ECONOMIC PROPERTY HERE IN DESOTO.

AND IF YOU HAVE WITNESSED, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SEEN MANY PROPERTIES LIKE WESTLAKE, TEXAS, SOUTHLAKE AND FRISCO, YOU KNOW, DUE TO THESE CHANGES, YOU KNOW, THIS CITY HAS BEEN THRIVING. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN LIKE MULTI MILLION DOLLAR STREETS HAVE BEEN BUILT THERE.

SO I WANT TO SEE THIS IN MY LIFETIME THAT, YOU KNOW DESOTO SHOULD GROW LIKE THAT.

AND THE CITY HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW HAVE BEEN LIKE THIS FOR DECADES.

SO THIS CITY IS REALLY A AWESOME CITY WHERE YOU GUYS CAN MAKE A BEAUTIFUL CITY FOR COMING GENERATION.

AND WE SHOULD NOT LOOK FOR THE SMALL HURDLES OR SMALL PROBLEMS. RATHER, LOOK FOR THE BIGGER PICTURE OF THE CITY.

IF THIS CITY BECOMES A BEAUTIFUL, YOU CAN YOU CAN IMAGINE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MAKE THIS CITY INTO A BIGGER CITY IN THIS COUNTRY.

ANOTHER THING I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THERE WILL BE NO PROPERTY TAXES INCREASE, I'M SURE, BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE MORE MONEY WHEN THIS BUSINESSES COME TO THE CITY AND YOU KNOW, THE CITY WILL BECOME A BEAUTIFUL CITY.

SO I AM FOR IT AND I WANT TO SEE THIS IN MY LIFETIME, SO PLEASE GO FOR IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

RAY STUBBLEFIELD.

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THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, MR. STUBBLEFIELD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE.

ONLY FOR THE RESIDENTS.

IS DESOTO BEEN HERE 45 YEARS? AND I ALWAYS SAY GET SOLD ON OLD.

LET THE STORY BE TOLD.

DIDN'T YOU ROLL EVERYTHING AS GOOD AS GOLD? AND WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY HERE IS WHY.

WE SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN TO THIS WHOLE METROPOLITAN AREA THEY PROJECT IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS, DALLAS-FORT WORTH METROPLEX IS TO PICK UP ANOTHER THREE AND A HALF TO 4 MILLION PEOPLE WITHIN 30 YEARS.

THEY PROJECT THAT DALLAS FORT WORTH METROPLEX WOULD BE LARGER THAN ANY CITY IN THE UNITED STATES, POPULATION WISE, INCLUDING NEW YORK.

WHEN I SEE THAT DESOTO GOT FACES OF STREETS GOING NORTH SOUTH, I SEE POLK.

CASSIE HAMPTON.

I SEE COCKRELL HILL IN WESTMORELAND.

I SEE A PLACE WHERE, WHEN I CAME HERE AT 13,000 PEOPLE, NOW IT'S RIGHT AT 60 SOME THOUSAND OF NOT.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TAKE THIS STREET, HAMPTON, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE IT.

WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO BRING IT DOWN TO TWO.

TO TWO LANES.

WHEN YOU GOT OTHER LAND OUT HERE THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE DEVELOPED IN INFRASTRUCTURE, IN A VARIETY OF THINGS, THAT COULD BE MUCH MORE BENEFICIAL THAN BEING ABLE TO BLOCK THIS UP AND HAVE A JAM OF HEAD, AND YOU SEE WHAT TRAFFIC GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

YOU SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AT 334 3530, 6:00.

HOW DOES IT MAKE SENSE? THE ONLY THING I SAID, NO, NO, NO, NO FURTHER DEVELOPMENT.

YOU WANT TO GO GO GET SOME OF THAT VACANT LAND OUT THERE AND DEVELOP THAT, DEVELOP THAT AND THAT.

THIS MAY BE WE CAN STILL HAVE THE FLOW BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MANY PEOPLE COMING HERE AND TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE DOOR.

WE GOT TO STEP BACK AND THINK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE WANT TO BE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THERE, AND WHAT VEHICLE ARE WE GOING TO USE? THE VEHICLE WE USE RIGHT NOW? IS THEY USING YOUR MINDSET SO WE CAN BE ABLE TO TRY TO HAVE IT WHERE YOU GOT AN EASY FLOW? EASY DOES IT.

THAT'S WHAT OLD PEOPLE SAY.

AND I'M ONE OF THEM OLD PEOPLE.

AND I STILL SAY EASY.

EASY DOES IT. SO MAYBE WE CAN THINK ABOUT THAT AND LET THAT SINK IN.

IF WE LET THAT SINK IN, MAYBE WE ALL CAN WIN.

WASN'T THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I HOPE YOU REALLY STRONGLY CONSIDER THAT TO SAY NO.

STUBBLEFIELD, THAT CONCLUDES YOUR TIME.

THAT'S MY TIME.

THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES THE CITIZENS PORTION OF OUR PUBLIC HEARING.

SO AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COUNCIL. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

TYPICALLY COUNCIL AS CUSTOMARY.

I WILL CALL FOR A MOTION.

HOWEVER, I WANT TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL AND TO ALSO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS.

I DON'T KNOW MR. JOHNSON, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE WANT TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU HEARD.

AS WE WERE AS WE WERE SPEAKING WITH THE CONSTITUENTS, HOWEVER, I WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THAT.

I'M ALSO IN OPEN THE FLOOR FOR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL AT THIS TIME.

YOU HAVE COME. SO, COUNCILMEMBER PARKER.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

I I ACTUALLY APPRECIATED AND I WANT TO GIVE HIM HIS PROPS BECAUSE I DID GO BACK AND HAVE A CONVERSATION, A IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION WITH MR. BREWER ABOUT THIS PROJECT FROM BEGINNING TO END, DATE TO DATE OF 2005 TO TODAY.

AND I GUESS I IT BROUGHT ABOUT A LOT MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME, BUT I I AM IN A, I AM IN FAVOR OF ALWAYS TRYING TO GROW.

I AM. BUT THIS THIS DOES CAUSE ME SOME PAUSE.

AND I TOO ALSO HAVE A THOUGHT PROCESS AROUND THE ACCESSORY UNITS.

THEY SHOULD NOT BE THERE.

AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS THOUGHT THAT THROUGH AND WANTED TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I'VE SPOKEN WITH A LOT OF RESIDENTS IN.

I HAVE THIS ACTUALLY SITS IN PLACE TOO, WHICH IS MY AREA.

AND SO I HAVE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS AND I'VE GONE BACK AND DID A LOT OF HOMEWORK TO DO MY THOUGHTS ON OR TO FIND OUT INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

AND SO I WOULD ASK ONE QUESTION OF HAVE BASED ON WHAT ONE OF THE CITIZENS SAID TONIGHT.

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AND THIS IS ALSO PART OF THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH MR. BREWER, I DID ASK HIM WHAT HAPPENS IF NOTHING HAPPENS TONIGHT.

THAT WAS MY FIRST QUESTION TO HIM.

I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

AND HE DID. HE GAVE ME HIS THOUGHTS.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOURS.

AND THEN I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION BASED ON ONE OF THE OTHER RESIDENTS THAT SPOKE, BECAUSE I WENT OFF AND DID A LITTLE HOMEWORK, HOMEWORK ABOUT THE INSURANCE AND HOW THAT AFFECTS NOT ONLY BUSINESSES, BUT ALSO CONSUMERS OR HOMEOWNERS.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, HAVE WE DONE THE RESEARCH IN THIS PROJECT TO KNOW HOW MANY ACTUALLY WOULD BE FLIPPED? IN CONFORMING USE.

HAVE WE DONE THAT RESEARCH? BASED ON THIS MAP.

SO TO TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION IF NOTHING HAPPENS, MEANING IT DOESN'T GET ADOPTED, RIGHT.

WELL, THEN YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE INTENDED FOR THIS AREA THAT ARE IN THE ZONING CODE THAT AREN'T APPLIED ANYWHERE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

AND JUST LIKE ANY OTHER ZONING DISTRICT THAT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW YOU COULD HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER COME IN ON THEIR OWN AND APPLY.

FOR A ZONING CHANGE TO TO CHANGE THEIR PROPERTY ZONING DESIGNATION TO ONE OF THESE ZONED DISTRICTS.

OUTSIDE OF THAT YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THE THINGS COULD BE REVISITED, LIKE THE STAFF COULD LOOK AT IT AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT THAT I WOULD REFER TO THEM, I THINK COULD GIVE YOU A BETTER ANSWER ON ON WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE THERE.

BUT OUTSIDE OF THOSE THINGS, YEAH.

YOU GOT DISTRICTS ON THE, ON THE BOOKS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN, CAN ZONE INTO VOLUNTARILY, OF COURSE, WITH Y'ALL'S APPROVAL AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND TO MY SECOND QUESTION, AND TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION, I DID A LOT OF SEARCHING ON INSURANCE.

I LOOKED AT INSURANCE.

I LOOKED UP INSURANCE RELATED TO NON-CONFORMING USES.

I TRIED TO SEE IF THAT WAS A BIG AN ISSUE, BIG ISSUE.

I'VE DONE A LOT OF REZONINGS OF THIS TYPE AND A LOT OF PLACES OVER THE 18 YEARS THAT I'VE WORKED IN THIS TYPE OF WORK, I'VE NOT SEEN THAT COME UP AS A MAJOR ISSUE.

THERE'S WHAT I LEARNED IS THAT THERE IS PROTECTIONS AND INSURANCE FOR CODES TO CHANGE.

THOSE ARE TYPICALLY IN PLACE FOR PROBABLY MORE, MORE RELEVANT TO LIKE BUILDING CODES OR ELECTRICAL CODES OR THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE CONSTANTLY CHANGING BUT COULD COME INTO PLAY FOR A ZONING CODE, I THINK, AS WELL.

I DO THINK THAT THE RECOMMENDATION.

TO ALLOW FOR A REBUILD UNDER EVEN A FULL DESTRUCTION OF A PROPERTY, AT LEAST FOR SINGLE FAMILY.

I KNOW YOU ASKED ABOUT BOTH.

WOULD ADDRESS THE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.

IF THAT BECAME AN ISSUE THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REBUILD.

IN TERMS OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, I THINK YOU'RE IN THE SAME PLACE.

WE DIDN'T MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THAT.

CERTAINLY THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT AS WELL FOR OTHER PROPERTIES.

IF THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, SAW IT, SAW IT AS AN APPROPRIATE THING TO RECOMMEND STAFF TO LOOK AT.

SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, MADAM MAYOR, IF I CAN JUST REITERATE MY QUESTION, I WANTED TO KNOW, HAS THE RESEARCH BEEN DONE ON THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE EXISTING IN THE ZONE, IN THE ZONES, IN THE ENTIRE MAP? HOW MANY HAVE FLIPPED THAT, IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, WOULD GO THE OPPOSITE WAY? THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL, BUT THEY WOULD BECOME COMMERCIAL OR OPPOSITE THOSE TYPES OF FLIPS IS WHAT I MEAN.

THAT WOULD BECOME NON THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD BECOME NON CONFORMING USE.

I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER FOR YOU.

WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE IT.

I THAT'S GOING TO BE ONLY IN THOSE THREE ZONES WHERE THAT WOULDN'T BE A CONFORMING USE ANYMORE.

SO THE URBAN CENTER URBAN GENERAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES I WANT TO THROW OUT A GUESS, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO.

WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT IT TO GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBER.

UNLESS. UNLESS YOU GUYS KNOW.

YES. TO DETERMINE THAT YOU CANNOT DO IT BY LOOKING AT A ZONING MAP AND COMPARING IT TO THE NEW CHARACTER CODE.

WHAT IT DOES TAKE IS DRIVING OUT, STOPPING AT EACH LOT TO GET A VISUAL ASSESSMENT OF WHETHER IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S CONFORMING OR NOT.

MY PLANNING STAFF HAS DRIVEN EVERY STREET IN THAT AREA.

HOWEVER, THEY HAVE NOT TOTALLY COMPLETED THE STUDY.

THEY DID COMPLETE THE URBAN GENERAL AREA, AND THOSE NUMBERS SHOWED 17 RESIDENTIAL LOTS WERE GOING TO BE ESTABLISHED AS NON-CONFORMING.

SO THERE'S STILL A LOT MORE THAT THE 17 ARE PROBABLY GOING TO COME UP.

OKAY. AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK, MR. BREWER. I APPRECIATE YOU SITTING DOWN AND ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH ALL OF THAT.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, I YIELD BACK.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WON'T HOLD VERY LONG.

I HAD A FEW RESIDENTS REACH OUT THE LAST TIME THE ZONING CAME FORTH BECAUSE I DID NOT SPEAK, SO I JUST WANTED TO STATE MY POSITION ON THIS.

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I WANT TO THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS FOR COMING OUT TODAY.

I THINK THAT THAT IS BY THIS IS DEMOCRACY.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE MAKE SOME REALLY HARD DECISIONS, THAT'S HEAVILY I KNOW FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, IS HEAVILY DEPENDENT ON THE VOICES THAT WE HEAR THAT ARE ECHOED THROUGH THIS CHAMBER. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EXERCISING YOUR RIGHT TO HAVE A VOICE IN THIS DECISION.

AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER I THINK WE ALL HAVE A DESIRE TO SEE DESOTO BE A BETTER PLACE.

AND HOW DO WE DO THAT TOGETHER AS WE MOVE FORWARD? ALL OF YOU ALL HAVE VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT POINTS THAT YOU MADE.

AND SO I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

AND SO I'M, I WHILE I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S A GREAT PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO, MY CONCERN WILL ALWAYS BE NOT LOSING CONTROL OVER THE DENSITY THAT HAPPENS IN OUR CITY. I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AS WE REMAIN THE JEWEL AND GEM OF, OF THE OF THE SOUTHERN DALLAS, THAT WE ALSO KEEP IN MIND WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE BRING AND ALWAYS KEEPING OVERSIGHT OVER THAT AS IT ENTERS OUR CITY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BURKE.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

AND I WANT TO VOICE MY MY OPINION.

I LISTEN INTENTLY TO EVERYONE I'VE READ EXTENSIVELY.

I AM. I'VE LIVED IN DESOTO FOR 24 YEARS AND I PLAN TO DIE IN DESOTO.

NOT ANYTIME SOON.

BUT I DO PLAN ON DYING IN DESOTO.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE GROWTH.

HOWEVER, I THINK GROWTH NEEDS TO BE MEASURED.

RIGHT NOW, IT SEEMS LIKE AN ELEPHANT, AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE WHERE TO BITE IT OR WHERE DO I FINISH BITING IT? I BELIEVE THAT THE VISION OF HAMPTON ROAD IS, IS OUR BEST EFFORT.

BUT TO MY COUNCILWOMAN'S POINT, HOW DO WE CONTROL IT? SOMEONE BROUGHT UP THE IDEA THAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPER ON THE HOOK.

AND SO I NEED TO EDUCATE MY.

I NEED TIME TO EDUCATE MYSELF ON WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN FIRST.

IS THIS THE FIRST STEP IS CHANGING THE CODE.

AND I'VE TALKED WITH MY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT MY OTHER FLIP SIDE TO THAT IS THAT IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING, THEN WE LOSE CONTROL NOW.

MEANING THE CHARACTER COLE, THE EYESORE ARE THE BUSINESSES.

EXCUSE ME. THAT'S ON THE CORNER OF OF PLEASANT RUN AND HAMPTON ROAD RIGHT NOW.

WE LOST CONTROL OF THE COLOR.

WE LOST CONTROL.

WE HAVE A PRETTY OLD RETAIL BUILDING THAT'S TO THE WEST OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

THAT RIGHT NOW THAT DEVELOPER CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANT TO, REGARDLESS TO WHATEVER WE WANT.

SO HOW DO WE TAKE IT? HOW DO WE TAKE CONTROL OF WHAT WE HAVE NOW WITHOUT IMPEDING ON WHAT WE NEED LATER? HOW DO WE SET THE PARAMETERS? AND I JUST DON'T KNOW THOSE ANSWERS RIGHT NOW.

BUT TO THE FLIP SIDE, AS WE LOOK AT WHAT WE DON'T WANT, WE KNOW THAT WE ALL WOULD WANT.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THESE FOUR CORNERS BETTER AND WITHOUT A CHARACTER CODE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO IT.

SO DO WE MAKE THE.

DO WE TALK TO HALF ABOUT BRINGING IN THE VISION INSTEAD OF BEING A MILE? MAYBE WE GO BLOCK BY BLOCK.

DO WE? HOW DO WE ADDRESS IT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.

MY CONCERN IS IF THAT DEVELOPER IF A DEVELOPER IN THIS AREA RIGHT NOW IN THESE FOUR CORNERS RIGHT NOW, THEY CAN COME AND DO ANYTHING.

THEY CAN COME AND SAY, I'M GOING TO MAKE SOME, I'M GOING TO MAKE IT MEXICAN STYLE.

WHILE THE REST OF THE FOUR, THE OTHER THREE CORNERS ARE NOT, THEY CAN SAY, I'M GOING TO MAKE IT ITALIAN FOYE AND THERE'S NO CONTINUITY.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE FACED WITH.

THE INSURANCE COMPANY THAT'S ON THE CORNER.

SO MY CONCERN IS, HOW DO I PROTECT NOW? HOW DO I PUT US IN POSITION NOW FOR THE FUTURE? AND HOW DO WE PLAN AND ACTUALLY DIRECT DEVELOPERS AND DEVELOPMENT ON WHAT WE DESIRE? AND WITHOUT ORDINANCES AND THINGS ON THE BOOKS? I'M NOT SURE HOW WE GET THERE.

SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN RAPHAEL, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I WASN'T EVEN TO ATTEND ONE OF THE MEETINGS AND IT WAS VERY FRUITFUL.

SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE HALF STAFF FOR BEING AVAILABLE, ACCESSIBLE AND ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS AND LISTENING.

AND SO ONE OF THE HARP, ONE OF THE PAIN POINTS FOR ME WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.

AND, AND WHAT FELT LIKE A LACK OF CONTROL FOR WHEN THE NEIGHBOR DECIDES TO PUT SOMETHING IN THE BACKYARD.

AND AND SO HAVING THE OPTION OF, OF, OF WHETHER IT'S SPECIAL USE PERMITS

[02:25:09]

OR, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE OPTION OF THAT COMING BACK BEFORE THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THOSE TYPES OF CHANGES ARE MADE, I THINK IS DEFINITELY ONE WORTH CONSIDERING FOR THIS. AND THEN I APPRECIATE YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BYRD, JUST IN BRINGING UP, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU GET THERE, YOU KNOW, IS IT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO IT BLOCK BY BLOCK? THOSE ARE SOME THOUGHTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CONSIDERED, HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WAS MADE TONIGHT RELATED TO LIKE FUNDING AND SO ON AND SO ON. AS IT RELATES TO FUNDING, IT WAS MENTIONED HERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY CAUGHT IT, BUT SO THE TAX INCREMENTAL INCREMENTS, PLEASE GIVE ME THE R REINVESTMENT ZONE.

WHAT THAT DOES.

THAT'S A FUNDING TOOL THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN STARTED.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ACCOUNT IS YET, BUT BASICALLY IT FROZE TAXES AT A CERTAIN LEVEL AT THE POINT THAT IT WAS IMPLEMENTED.

EVERY RISE ABOVE THAT WENT INTO A FUND TO BE A PART OF THE FUNDING OF WHATEVER WORK WOULD HAPPEN ALONG HAMPTON ROAD OR INCENTIVES OR ANY THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S ON THE BOOKS.

THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN 2005, 2010, 2015.

THERE WERE NO FUNDING MECHANISMS AS IT RELATES TO HAVING THE VARIOUS TYPES OF CHARACTER CODES, WHAT WE HAVE IS A LOT, YOU KNOW, AND SO WHAT FEELS UNCOMFORTABLE IS A LOT. BUT WHAT HAS COME TO THE CITY, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN IDEAS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL IN 20, SINCE 2018, THERE HAVE BEEN ENTITIES THAT HAVE COME TO THIS CITY AND SAID, HEY, THEY HAD THESE BIG DREAMS THAT WE SAID JUST DIDN'T FIT RIGHT NOW, WASN'T QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, BUT HINDSIGHT WOW.

HAD HAD ANY ONE OF THOSE GONE THROUGH.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A CATALYTIC CATALYTIC STORM FOR THE AREA GOING DOWN HAMPTON ROAD, HAMPTON ROAD, BELTLINE AND AND SO ON.

AND SO WITH THAT, I BELIEVE WE CAN GET TO SOME PLACE THAT'S HAPPY.

AND AND FOR ME, LOOKING AT THIS CHARACTER CODE, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO ENSURE THAT LEGACY RESIDENTS ARE NOT DISPLACED THAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE I GET TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK IN COMMUNITY, IN ANOTHER CITY.

AND SO JUST REALLY THINKING THROUGH, I THINK SOME OF THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT COULD HAPPEN FOR THE THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT NOW, WE ACTUALLY CAN PUT SOME ADDITIONAL THOUGHT TO THOSE.

AND THAT'S THE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO.

AND THEN SO SO THAT YOU ARE AWARE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF INTERVIEWING CANDIDATES FOR THE CITY, AND THEY HAVE THE CANDIDATES HAVE ROSE TO THE TOP, HAVE PLANNING IN THEIR BACKGROUND.

THEY HAVE THEY, THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED THAT I THINK WOULD BENEFIT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.

AND SO FOR ME, I LIKE THE BENEFIT OF MORE INFORMATION.

THAT'S JUST ME, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING WHAT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE SAYING.

FOR THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE AND WHAT IT WILL ACTUALLY MEAN FOR ME IN.

AND NO, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT A ROAD THROUGH YOUR LIVING ROOM.

WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

AND SO, NEEDLESS TO SAY THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS AROUND IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

AND THANK YOU TO EVERY RESIDENT THAT CAME OUT TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

BUT AS MANY RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT TO SPEAK TONIGHT, THERE ARE MANY RESIDENTS WHO CAME TO THE CHARRETTES, TO THE TO THE, TO THE TOWN HALLS WHERE THEY PUT STICKERS AND THEY VISIONED AND ALL IT WAS WAS THE VISIONING.

SO NOW WHERE WE ARE TODAY IS ACTUALLY LIKE, WHAT IS THE ACTUALIZATION OF THAT VISION AND HOW DOES IT AFFECT PEOPLE.

AND SO YOU GIVING VOICE TO THAT REALLY DOES HELP US MAKE THESE DECISIONS.

AND SO FOR ME WITH THE TEXT LANGUAGE, THERE DOES NEED TO BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER. RAPHAEL I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH.

HOWEVER, AGAIN, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO DID COME AND AND SPEAK.

BECAUSE AGAIN, IT DOES HELP INFORM AND HELPS US UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS OF THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.

I THINK WE WE ALL WANT TO SEE DESOTO GROW.

I'VE LIVED IN DESOTO SINCE I WAS IN THE THIRD GRADE, AND DESOTO WAS MUCH DIFFERENT THEN THAN IT IS NOW.

SO I'M, I'M, I'M I CONSIDER MYSELF ONE OF THOSE LEGACY RESIDENTS IN TERMS OF OF WHAT THIS PROJECT MEANS TO ME.

SO I'M NOT UP HERE AS SOMEBODY WHO WHO JUST IS, YOU KNOW, MAKING A DECISION WITH NO TIES TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE BEEN HERE. MANY OF US HAVE BEEN HERE FOR DECADES AS WELL.

WE GET THE SAME. BILL YOU ALL GET WE PAY THE SAME WATER BILL THAT YOU ALL GET.

SO ANYTHING THAT IMPACTS YOU IMPACTS US.

AND WE WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS AT THE FOREFRONT OF OUR MINDS AS WE'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS.

BECAUSE ANYTHING WE DO HERE, WE ALL HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT.

IT'S NOT JUST COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S ALL OF US, BECAUSE THIS IS ALL OF OUR CITY.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE ALL SIGNED UP TO DO THIS WORK THAT SIT AROUND HERE ON THE DAIS.

WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S A VERY THANKLESS JOB.

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SO AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE HEARING FROM YOU ALL AND HEARING THE CONCERNS AND HELPING US BETTER UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE WE WANT TO MAKE SMART DECISIONS.

WE WANT TO MAKE VERY DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS.

AND AGAIN, WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN.

I THINK SOME OF THE SOME OF THE THOUGHTS FOR ME AROUND IT.

I WAS NOT NECESSARILY SO CAUGHT UP IN THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS UNTIL IT WAS KIND OF BROUGHT OUT BY ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES.

SO I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THAT.

I ALSO JUST AFTER STUDYING, KIND OF LOOKING AT IT AND SITTING WITH THE PROJECT, HEARING SOME OF THE CONCERNS, ALSO HEARING ONE OF THE CONCERNS OF MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM, REGARDING THE, THE, THE THE PERCEPTION OF LOSING CONTROL OF MULTIFAMILY.

I THINK THAT WITH A FEW OF THESE THINGS, IN TERMS OF US REALLY MAKING THIS SOMETHING THAT IS UNIQUE TO DESOTO, WE SEE THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS ALL OVER THE METROPLEX.

RIGHT? AND SO THIS THIS TYPE OF THING IS NOTHING NEW TO CITY PLANNING.

AND SO I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO IS TO DRILL DOWN MORE INTO SOME OF THESE SPECIFIC AREAS, AS WE'VE DONE WITH THE THREE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE DONE HERE.

DONE HERE TONIGHT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT THAT MEANS, HOW IT IMPACTS THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS, AND LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WOULD MAKE IT WORK BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND NOT JUST SOMETHING PAINTED.

WHAT FEELS I THINK WHAT I THINK THE WAY THAT IT FEELS TO MANY OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IS THAT THE CODE IS JUST PAINTED WITH MORE OF A BROAD BRUSH THAN REALLY, LIKE WE SAID, TAKING THAT BLOCK BY BLOCK, LOOK TO SEE HOW IT IMPACTS OUR COMMUNITY.

I ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER RAPHAEL ALLUDED TO IT.

HOWEVER, THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN KEEPING UP WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE, WE ARE LOOKING IN THE PROCESS OF OF SELECTING A NEW CITY MANAGER.

AND THAT'S A VERY BIG DEAL.

AS WELL. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THOSE TYPES OF DECISIONS GOING ON, WE HAVE A LOT THAT IS GOING ON AT THIS TIME.

AND SO WE WANT YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO HEAR YOU.

AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS AND ALL OF THE CONCERNS ARE WARRANTED.

AND WE DO WANT TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ONES THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING FOR GROWTH, THAT YOU ALL WANT TO SEE THE CITY CHANGE, AS DO WE.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TAKING THE STEPS IN THIS PROJECT.

SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO END MY COMMENTS THERE.

DOCTOR MARX, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, FOR YIELDING THE FLOOR.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY TO THE RESIDENTS THAT WE WE DO HEAR YOU.

WE HEAR YOU.

THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE FOUR, WHICH WAS EIGHT, AND THOSE THAT WERE AGAINST IT WAS NINE.

SO LOOKING AT THE DATA, IT IS SOMEWHAT EVEN WHEN WE LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PARTICULAR STANDPOINT.

THOSE OF YOU WHO CAME FORTH AND TALKED ABOUT THE COST, YOU TALKED ABOUT INSURANCE, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ROADS, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW IT WOULD AFFECT YOU, SO FORTH AND SO ON.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE DO HEAR YOU.

ALSO, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT WE DO WANT TO SEE DESOTO GROW.

AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE SENTIMENT OF ALL OF US HERE.

IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT DIFFERENTLY.

SO, MADAM MAYOR, WITH THAT BEING SAID I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IF I, IF I COULD MAKE A MOTION.

MAKE A MOTION? THAT'S IT.

I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY. AND I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT ON BOTH SIDES THAT YOU GUYS WILL UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS WHY THE MOTION IS IS WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY AND THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING IT.

SO, MADAM MAYOR, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

AND DON'T EVERYBODY JUMP OUT OF YOUR SEATS.

I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.

AND PLEASE HEAR ME OUT BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

TO WITHDRAW.

THE ZONING CASE NUMBER Z 1514 DASH 24, HOWEVER.

I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT IT BE RESUBMITTED THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING, AFTER WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT SOME OF THE IDEAS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE COME FORTH TONIGHT.

AS YOU RECALL, I'M ONE OF THE ONES THAT DON'T BELIEVE IN KICKING THINGS DOWN THE ROAD.

BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE DO HEAR YOU.

WE WILL BRING THIS BACK.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT DATE DO WE.

DO WE? OKAY.

WE DON'T HAVE A DATE RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST KNOW THAT IT WILL COME BACK.

I THINK OUR MAYOR I KNOW, I KNOW, EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT ME.

I KNOW OUR MAYOR AND SOME OF THE OTHERS HAD MENTIONED ABOUT A NEW CITY MANAGER COMING IN.

SO POSSIBLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THAT PERSON CAN ASSIST US WITH AS WELL, BUT JUST KNOW THAT IT WILL COME BACK.

BUT CERTAINLY WHEN IT COMES BACK, WE WANT IT TO BE MORE ADAPTABLE TO SOME OF THE IDEAS AND THINGS THAT YOU BROUGHT FORTH TONIGHT.

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ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE DONE, DOCTOR MARX? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. LET ME SEE.

HAVE I LEFT ANYTHING ELSE OUT? BUT I THINK WE GOT A MOTION ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AGO.

YEAH A SECOND RATHER.

EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE WITH THE MOTION? YES, WE GOT A SECOND ON IT.

YES. I SECOND SECONDED THE MISS PARKER FOR THE FOR THE RECORD, CAN SHE JUST RESTATE RESTATE? OKAY. SURE, SURE.

LET ME RESTATE IT IN IN LAYMAN'S TERMS. MOTION TO WITHDRAW THE ZONING CASE Z 1514 DASH 24 AND REQUEST IT TO BE RESUBMITTED TO PRNS FOR RECONSIDERATION.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY DOCTOR MARX.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER TO WITHDRAW THIS ZONING CASE.

DO I NEED TO STATE THE CASE NUMBER? OKAY. TO WITHDRAW THE ZONING CASE? COUNCIL, PLEASE USE YOUR VOTING PAD.

THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL. AT THIS TIME.

AT THIS TIME. EXCUSE ME.

AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

YES, MA'AM. NEXT WE MOVE INTO OUR REGULAR.

IF YOU ALL COULD PLEASE LEAVE QUIETLY.

WE ARE STILL IN OUR MEETING.

THANK YOU. IF YOU ALL COULD NOT SPEAK, WE'RE STILL IN OUR MEETING.

THANK YOU. NEXT WE MOVE INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

[1. Consider authorizing the Interim City Manager to negotiate and execute the Final Guaranteed Maximum Price contract with Manhattan Construction Company in the amount of $42,862,206 and execute any and all related documents for the construction of the Aquatic and Recreation Center at McCowan Park]

WE HAVE CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE THE FINAL GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE CONTRACT WITH MANHATTAN CONSTRUCTION COMPANY IN THE AMOUNT OF $42,862,206, AND EXECUTE ANY AND ALL RELATED DOCUMENTS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE AQUATIC AND RECREATION CENTER AT MCALLEN PARK.

MAKING THAT STAFF PRESENTATION IS CHRIS GLOVER, PARKS DIRECTOR.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S AN INTERESTING TIME FOR ME TO COME UP, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE BEST WITH WHAT I GOT RIGHT HERE.

JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND, I'VE BEEN BEEN THINKING ABOUT MY MY DAUGHTER, WHO HAPPENS TO GRADUATE FRIDAY, MAGNA CUM LAUDE.

YEP. THAT'S HER. Y'ALL GO AND GIVE IT UP.

YEAH, GIVE IT UP.

AND I'M BRAGGING. I'MA BE WORSE THAN THAT ON FRIDAY.

BUT I WAS WORKING OUT THIS PAST WEEKEND, EARLY IN THE MORNING, AND I.

AND I WENT HOME, AND WHEN I GOT HOME, SHE WAS THERE.

SHE SAID, DADDY, WHAT ARE YOU TRAINING FOR? AND I STARTED LAUGHING, AND I SAID, WELL, FIRST THING POPPED IN MY MIND IS ALL THESE SUITS AND SPORTS JACKETS I HAVE.

I NEED TO MAKE SURE I CAN WEAR THEM BECAUSE I'M KIND OF CHEAP AND I DON'T WANT TO GO OUT AND BUY NOTHING ELSE.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT KIND OF POPPED IN MY MIND.

BUT THE SECOND THING THAT POPPED IN MY MIND WAS JUST YOU START THINKING, YOU KNOW, AS I AGE, YOU START THINKING ABOUT YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT YOU KNOW, YOU I TEND TO PUT IN MORE EFFORT NOW, REALLY THINKING ABOUT HER AS SHE GETS OLDER AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE I'VE DONE EVERYTHING WITHIN MY POWER TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT I'M SELF SUFFICIENT AND WELL, ANYWAY, I GUESS I JUST HAD TO GET THAT OFF MY CHEST.

SO, SO I WAS WONDERING, WHERE WAS THIS GOING? YEAH, WELL, IT'S GOING TO QUALITY OF LIFE, WHICH KIND OF TIES INTO THIS AQUATICS AND RECREATION CENTER.

AS WE KNOW.

AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING AT HOME, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MASTER PLAN.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE AQUATICS AND RECREATION CENTER STARTED.

AND SO COMING BEHIND THE HAMPTON ROAD PROJECT, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED THESE CONVERSATIONS BACK IN 2010 AS WELL.

AND IN 2025, OUR MASTER PLAN IS SCHEDULED TO BE UPDATED.

WITH THAT MASTER PLAN, WE HAD TRAILS, PAVILIONS, AMPHITHEATERS, SKATE PARKS AND RAIN GARDENS AND SOCCER FIELDS.

I GUESS THEY'RE THEY'RE PULLING IT UP NOW.

HOPEFULLY I END UP PUTTING IT IN THERE.

BUT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THE OBSTACLES HERE IS WITH MANHATTAN, WHO'S OUR CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, AND MANHATTAN IS HERE TONIGHT, AND SO IS OUR IPS.

I GUESS Y'ALL GO AHEAD AND WAVE.

LET THEM LET THEM KNOW YOU'RE HERE.

AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

IN OUR SCOPE OF SERVICES, ORIGINALLY, WHAT OUR CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, WE WE WE WE REALLY DIDN'T THINK A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THE THE MASTER PLAN AND HOW THAT THING PLAYED OUT, AND SO.

ONE THING THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE TONIGHT, THAT IS GOING TO BE AN EXPENSE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY HANDLE INTERNALLY WITH UTILITIES, IN PARTICULAR WITH BRANDON LACEY IS THE WATER LINE AND REALLY CREATING AN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS WATER LINE AT THIS FACILITY THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE FUTURE GROWTH.

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AND IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF SERVICES FOR MANHATTAN.

OKAY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL PROBABLY END UP COMING BACK TO YOU ALL AT A LATER DATE.

BUT NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT AND WHERE WE ARE WITH IT.

AND THIS FIRST SLIDE REALLY SUMS IT UP.

THIS HAS BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF WORK THAT WE'VE DONE TO GET TO THIS, THIS PERSPECTIVE.

I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, OUR GUARANTEED MAX PRICE ESTIMATE IS BASED OFF 100% CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, WHICH MEANS THAT WE ARE THERE.

AND WE HAD $43.2 MILLION BUDGETED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS FACILITY.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT ACTUALLY CAME IN AT $42,862,206.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH IT.

SO THE FUNDS ARE BUDGETED IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

AND THIS KIND OF SHOWS OUR COURSE OF HOW WE HOW WE GOT HERE.

AND AS YOU LOOK AT THE DATES UP TOP, YOU SEE HOW THAT NUMBER KIND OF BALLOONED.

AND AND THEN IT ULTIMATELY CAME BACK DOWN TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

SO AND AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS THAT THAT, THAT THE AVERAGE GUY DOESN'T SEE.

BUT THAT'S WHERE WE THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.

SO WE'RE GLAD TO BE WITHIN BUDGET ON THE CONSTRUCTION COST.

THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT OUR MWBE, WITH OUR INITIAL GUARANTEED MAX PRICE, AND WITH THAT, WE WERE AT 21.8 MILLION DURING OUR GMP PROCESS.

BUT NOW DURING OUR FINAL GMP, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE AT 18, A LITTLE BIT OVER 18, ALMOST $19 MILLION AT 54%, WHICH EXCEEDS OUR GOAL OF 30%. AND I THINK YOU ALL HAVE AS COUNCIL WAS AT 20%.

SO WE'RE PLEASED WITH WITH THAT OUTCOME.

NOW GETTING TO I GUESS WHERE WE REALLY WANTED TO GET TO IS WHEN IS THIS GOING TO HAPPEN? AND AS YOU CAN SEE, MAY THE 7TH, I THINK, WELL, YOU CAN'T SEE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A LITTLE BAR AT THE BOTTOM, BUT MAY THE 7TH IS WHEN WE'RE SEEKING APPROVAL TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE CITY MANAGER THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER, WE'RE TRYING TO AUTHORIZE HIM TO BE ABLE TO SIGN THE AIA CONTRACT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.

COST 42 MILLION AND SOME CHANGE.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS WE HAVE TO DO WITH OUR BUILDING INSPECTIONS REVIEW AND OUR INITIAL INITIAL PROPERTY PLAT, AND THAT'S SCHEDULED TO BE DONE AT THE END OF MAY.

AND ONCE WE DO THAT, OUR CONSTRUCTION ACTUALLY STARTS ON SIX THREE AND NOT SIX FIVE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO START SIX THREE.

AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING IT'LL TAKE 18 MONTHS.

AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE WELL ON THE WAY PENDING YOU ALL'S APPROVAL TONIGHT.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, MR. GLOVER, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

COUNCIL. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE. I'M SORRY.

YES. THANK YOU.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS VERY CLOSELY.

YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED MANY TIMES ABOUT THESE NUMBERS.

AND I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE SEEING NUMBERS GO UNDER WHERE WE ANTICIPATED THEM TO BE.

AND THIS IS THE KIND OF GROWTH THAT DESOTO NEEDS.

THIS IS ONE OF THE MANY PROJECTS HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE IN THE FUTURE.

AND I JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M READY, YOU KNOW, TO THROW SOME DIRT AS, AS DOCTOR MARX WOULD TELL US OR COUNCIL MEMBER MARX WOULD SAY, LET'S MOVE SOME DIRT ON THIS ONE.

GOOD. AND THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN PARKER, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OH, THE MAYOR'S BACK.

JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT I WALKED IN ON.

OKAY. THERE ONLY DIRT.

OKAY. COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE CALL FOR A MOTION? SURE THING. YES.

OH, I JUST SEE YOU LAUGHING. I'M SORRY.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RAPHAEL. YES.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. YES.

THANK YOU FOR GETTING THOSE NUMBERS BACK DOWN.

WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND WHAT I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND.

SO ON THE MWBE PROCESS.

SO THAT PROCESS IN TERMS OF THE CONTRACTORS AND THINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN THAT THAT WILL THAT BE AN INTERNAL PROCESS FOR MANHATTAN AND THEN WHO DOES THE COMPLIANCE AND ENSURING THAT THE CONTRACTS, THE CONTRACTORS ARE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE ON THE COMPLIANCE SIDE? YES. MANHATTAN ACTUALLY MANAGES THE THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE MWBE, AND THEY CAN COME AND SPEAK ON IT AS WELL.

AND OUR OWNERS REP INTEGRATED PROJECT SOLUTIONS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OVERSIGHT OF THAT.

OKAY. AND THEN AND THEN THEY REPORT THAT BACK TO YOU ON A HOW OFTEN BASIS.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ACTUALLY DETERMINED OR OKAY.

JASMINE SAYS CHRIS, DON'T DON'T GO THERE.

AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO THERE.

OKAY. SO MANHATTAN ACTUALLY HAS A TEAMING ASSOCIATE CAR AKARI MANAGEMENT.

I'M SORRY. PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME FOR THE JASMINE HOWELLS, PRECONSTRUCTION MANAGER WITH MANHATTAN.

SO MANHATTAN ACTUALLY HAS A TEAMING ASSOCIATE, AKARI MANAGEMENT.

SHE RUN BY JOLIN.

THEY MANAGE OUR MWBE OUTREACH.

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THEY WILL BE OUR THIRD PARTY COMPLIANCE AND MONITORING THROUGHOUT THE ACTUAL SUBCONTRACTING OF THE TRADE PARTNERS.

AND THEN THEY WILL BE REPORTING DIRECTLY TO THE CITY OF DESOTO.

SO WE HAVE AKARI MANAGEMENT WORKING DIRECTLY WITH IPS.

OKAY. YEAH.

FOR THAT FUNCTION OKAY.

THANK YOU RON OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. DO YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE HERE JUST IN CASE OKAY.

AND HELLO, SYLVIA JOHNSON WITH IPS.

THE YOU ASKED ABOUT THE FREQUENCY OF THAT.

THAT HAPPENS AT MONTHLY.

SO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH BLAINE RIDDINGS AND HIS GROUP TO MONTHLY REPORT FOR MWB.

OKAY. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT.

YOU. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS JUST RELATED TO ARE WE LOOKING FOR ANY GRANTS TO HELP US WITH THIS PROJECT AT ALL? WE HAVEN'T AT THIS TIME.

WE'VE JUST BEEN SO BUSY WITH.

YOU KNOW, DOTTING OUR I'S AND CROSSING OUR T'S AT THIS POINT.

BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WILL NOT LOOK FOR SOMEONE, THOUGH.

WE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING TODAY WITH ESTHER, WITH SOME ENERGY MANAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT MIGHT THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.

THEY DON'T DO A WHOLE LOT WITH BUILDINGS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN CONSTRUCTED YET.

AND SO THERE MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES ONCE IT IS CONSTRUCTED.

BUT YES, WE WILL EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS OR SOME OPTIONS.

OKAY. AND MIGHT I SUGGEST THAT WE LOOK INTO WHAT'S CALLED DIRECT PAY OR ELECTIVE PAY FROM THE IRS? THAT TYPE OF FUNDING OR FUNDING COMING BACK TO THE CITY, CONSIDERING THE LEED CERTIFICATIONS AND ALL THE EFFICIENCIES RELATED TO ALL OF THE ALL OF THAT.

AND IF WE COULD LOOK INTO RESILIENCY HUBS, IF I DON'T KNOW IF THIS STRUCTURE WOULD QUALIFY FOR THAT, BUT IT'S WORTH US LOOKING INTO SEEING IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COUNCIL. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE CALL FOR A MOTION? HEARING? NONE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MADAM MAYOR. OH. I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD. AND MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCILMAN BYRD.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

COUNCIL, PLEASE USE YOUR VOTING PAD.

OH. I'M SORRY.

COUNCIL. LET'S TAKE A HAND VOTE.

SINCE COUNCIL MEMBER HUGHES IS NOT HERE.

PRESENT. CAN YOU TAKE THE SCREEN, THE VOTING SCREEN OFF? OFF. AND THEN WE'LL DO A HAND VOTE SO WE CAN SEE HER HAND VOTE.

CAN WE PUT THE ZOOM SCREEN BACK UP, PLEASE? THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM HUGHES.

WE'LL DO A HAND VOTE.

SO, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE STATE.

SO BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.

COUNCIL MEMBER. EXCUSE ME, MAYOR PRO TEM HUGHES, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE STATE SO BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE.

HOW LONG DOES.

SHE'S TRYING TO FIND A LITTLE HAND EMOJI I THINK IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.

I FELT IT, WE WERE CORRECT IN OUR ASSUMPTION.

WE WERE CORRECT IN OUR ASSUMPTION.

THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, LET THE RECORD REFLECT.

IT WORKS. IT WORKS.

ALL RIGHT. SO LET ME SEE.

LET ME GO BACK AND ACTUALLY SEE THE HANDS IN PERSON.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

THAT'S EVERYBODY. THIS MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. COUNSEL. THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. WE DO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

CONGRATULATIONS, MR. GLOVER.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

[I. EXECUTIVE SESSION AND RESULTING POTENTIAL ACTION a. The City Council will convene into Executive Session pursuant to Section 551.074, Personnel Matters, of the Texas Government Code, to deliberate the appointment process, employment, evaluation and duties regarding City Manager candidates. b. City Council will reconvene into open session and take necessary action, if any, as a result of executive session.]

AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE THE THE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.07 FOR PERSONNEL MATTERS OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION AND DUTIES REGARDING THE CITY MANAGER CANDIDATES AND ANY ACTION AS A RESULT.

THANK YOU COUNCIL.

AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE WILL RETURN IF THERE IS ANY ACTION AS A RESULT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL.

IT'S 840 9P0 WE HAVE A YEAH.

905. COUNCIL IT IS 8:49 P.M.

AND WE WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.