[A. WORK SESSION AGENDA:]
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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.THE TIME IS NOW 6:00 PM WE WANNA GO AHEAD AND CALL THE WORK SESSION OF THE DESOTO PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, UH, TO ORDER.
TODAY IS TUESDAY, MARCH 26TH, 2024.
TO MY RIGHT, WE HAVE MS. CAESAR.
UH, TO MY LEFT WE HAVE MS. BROOKS, MR. CHARLIE, AND MR. BERRY AND MYSELF, MR. PUGH.
UH, SO AGAIN, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM COMMISSIONER IS THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UH, JUST FOR US TO DISCUSS DURING THIS WORK SESSION.
IS THE MINUTES, UH, THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE PLANNING ZONING REGULAR MEETING ON MARCH 12TH, 2024.
ARE THERE ANY MODIFICATIONS AFTER REVIEWING THOSE MINUTES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST TO THE MARCH 12TH, 2024 MINUTES? HEARING IS SAID, NONE.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE FIRST, UH, PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL BE ON ITEM E ONE, WHICH IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO AMEND PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 39 PD 1 39, AND OBTAIN A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, SUP IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH AND OPERATE A WEDDING BANQUET AND PARTY FACILITY, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR ON TRACK 11 R IN THE DESOTO EVENT CENTER EDITION, ONE 60 SEAHAWK DRIVE.
THE APPLICANT IS WENDELL LOCKHART AND PROPERTY OWNER IS ARIA, UH, BURNETT.
THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1516 24.
GOOD EVENING, MS. JORDAN WILLIAMS. AND MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT, PLEASE? GOOD EVENING COMMISSION CHAIRMAN.
THIS CASE IS, UH, Z DASH 1516 DASH 24.
IT IS A REQUEST, UH, TO AMEND PD 1 39 TO OBTAIN A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH AND OPERATE A WEDDING BANQUET AND PARTY FACILITY, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS? ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.
THANK YOU, MS. JORDAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, SIR.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT STAFF REPORT FOR ITEM E TWO, WHICH IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO AMEND PLAN DEVELOPMENT 20 PD 20 IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR A FOUR STORY HOTEL SPRING HILL HOTEL ON A PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF I 35 EAST AND WINTERGREEN COURT.
THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF 2.908 ACRES OF LAND AND IS IS ADDRESSED AS 1324 WINTERGREEN COURT.
THE APPLICANT IS Q COMM AND SHE HOSPITALITY GROUP.
DESOTO IS THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER.
THIS IS ZONING CASE Z DASH 15 EIGHT DASH 24.
MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? AND DO WE NEED TO, DO WE NEED TO SKIP OVER THAT AND GO TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM? COME BACK? YES, SIR.
WE'LL COME BACK TO E TWO AND SHOW THE THIRD PUBLIC HEARING IS ON ITEM E THREE, WHICH IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE REZONING OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THE NEW HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE SECTION.
THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CHARACTER CODE SECTION WILL BE REZONED FROM THEIR CURRENT MULTIPLE ZONING DISTRICTS TO THE FOLLOWING, FIVE NEW ZONING DISTRICTS.
ONE URBAN CENTER, TWO, URBAN GENERAL, THREE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, FOUR, URBAN, URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, AND FIVE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.
THE APPLICANT IS THE SEAT OF DESOTO AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1514 DASH 24.
SO MS. ZI, GOOD EVENING, AND MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
SO THE, THIS, UH, CASE THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS THE, UM, HAMPTON CHARACTER CODE THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A GOOD LONG TIME.
SO TODAY, UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, UH, UM, THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTIES.
WE, WE HAVE, UM, YOU GUYS ARE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL FOR THE TEXT AMENDMENT THAT ADDED THE, UH, HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE TO THE ZONING ORDINANCES.
AND WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ZONING ORDINANCE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE BOOK OF REGULATIONS THAT WE USE TO, WHENEVER AN APPLICATION COMES, WE GO TO OUR REGULATIONS AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE MEETING THE REGULATIONS.
SO YOU GUYS RECOMMENDED, UH, THE, UM, THE REGULATIONS FOR HAMILTON CHARACTER
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CODE TO BE ADDED INTO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.AND CITY COUNCIL ON, UM, MARCH FIVE APPROVED THOSE REGULATIONS AS WELL.
THEY, THEY APPROVED TO HAVE THOSE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE REGULATIONS INTO OUR ZONING BOOK.
SO YES, IT IS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR SECTION REGULATIONS AS OF NOW BECAUSE IT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON MARCH FIVE.
SO NOW WHAT WE ARE DOING IS TO, ON ALSO ON, UM, FEBRUARY 20, THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO INITIATED THE REZONING OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT CORRIDOR.
LET ME GO AHEAD AND, UM, PULL THE MAP.
SO LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, WE HAVE THE, ALL THE REGULATIONS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS MAP IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW.
AND ON FEBRUARY 20, THE CITY COUNCIL INITIATED THE REASONING OF ALL THESE PROPERTIES BECAUSE ALL THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN YELLOW, BROWN, PURPLE AND ALL THAT, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ZONING RIGHT NOW.
DIFFERENT ZONINGS, SOME ARE GENERAL OFFICE, SOME SOME ARE RESIDENTIAL, SOME ARE, WE HAVE ALL DIFFERENT KIND OF ZONING, UM, THAT WE HAVE FOR THESE PROPERTIES.
BUT TONIGHT WE ARE GOING TO BE REZONING BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY ORDERED THAT, UH, THESE PROPERTIES BE REZONED FROM WHATEVER THEY ARE RIGHT NOW TO THE FIVE, TO THE FIVE ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE UNDER THIS HAMPTON ROAD CO CHARACTER CODE, WHICH ARE E CENTER.
WE DO HAVE E CENTER, LET ME JUST RUN THROUGH THE DIFFERENT, ANYWAY, WE DO HAVE THE URBAN CENTER, URBAN GENERAL.
WE DO HAVE THE, UH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION, URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALL THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE BEING INTRODUCED NOW.
SO WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THIS CASE IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO REASON WHATEVER THE, THESE PROPERTIES, WHATEVER UNDER ZONING THAT THEY ARE TODAY, IF THIS IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY WILL BE CHANGED TO EITHER A AND CENTER A AND GENERAL LABOR TO TRANSITION N NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL WILL LOOK AT THIS, UH, REASONING ON UM, APRIL 2ND.
THAT'S WHEN THIS IS GOING BEFORE CITY CITY COUNCIL.
SO IN IN GENERAL, I'M GONNA BE GOING INTO THE FULL, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS AT OUR SEVEN O'CLOCK MEETING.
BUT THIS IS, UH, THIS IS WHAT THE EIN CENTER, WHICH IS ONE OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS.
AND THESE ARE THE, UM, EXAMPLES OF WHAT IS LIKELY WHAT WE ARE LIKELY TO GET UNDER EIN CENTER.
AND THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, THE NUMBER OF, UH, PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE IN THAT URBAN CENTER.
THESE PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE CHANGED FROM WHATEVER THEY ARE, RIGHT TODAY.
THEY ARE GENERAL RETAIL, MULTI-FAMILY OFFICE ONE, OFFICE TWO, PLAN DEVELOPMENT, ONE 30 PLAN DEVELOPMENT, 58 SINGLE FAMILY, 10 SINGLE FIF, SINGLE FAMILY, 15, SINGLE FAMILY NINE, ALL OF THOSE WILL BE CHANGED, ALL OF THEM TO BE URBAN CENTER.
AND THOSE, THE MAP ON THE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE SHOWING YOU THE AREAS WHICH ARE BEING CHANGED FROM WHATEVER THEY ARE TODAY TO URBAN CENTER.
SO ALL THOSE AREAS IN PINK COLOR, THOSE ARE THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING CHANGED.
SO FOR E IN GENERAL, YES, UH, SOME PICTURES OF WHAT WE ARE LIKELY TO SEE UNDER THOSE.
AND AGAIN, I HAVE A TABLE WITH ALL THE PROPERTIES, THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE CHANGED TO E IN GENERAL, AND THE MAP ON THE RIGHT SHOWING YOU EXACTLY WHICH PROPERTIES ARE BEING CHANGED.
SAME THING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE AND THE, UM, NUMBER OF PROPERTIES, ALL THOSE IN BLUE ARE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, NEW NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE ZONED PROPERTIES, IF THEY ARE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AND IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THEM, THIS IS FOR, FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.
SO, AND THE HOME RULE CHARTER SAYS THAT, UH, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY CHANGES, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY, ANYTHING NEW IN TERMS OF A ZONING PLAN, MASTER PLAN, MASTER THERAPY PLAN, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS REQUIRED TO MAKE AN A,
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A RECOMMENDATION OF EITHER APPROVAL OR DENIAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL.THIS IS THE REASON WHY THIS IS COMING BEFORE YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF, UH, OF ANYTHING CHANGES ON THEM.
ZONING, MASTER PLAN, MASTER PLAN, MASTER THERAPY PLAN, AND THIS ONE TON ROAD CORRIDOR IS GONNA CHANGE OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.
IT'S GONNA CHANGE OUR ZONING MAP.
THAT'S WHY IT'S COMING BEFORE YOU TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
AND, UH, WE DID NOTIFY AND THIS, UM, WE SENT ABOUT 1,197 NOTICES OUT.
WE SENT PRO, UH, PROPERTY OWNER NOTICES WE DID SEND OUT FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN 200 AND 400 FEET.
AND THESE ARE THE, UM, THE NUMBERS THAT WE GOT BACK ARE IN SUPPORT AND IN OPPOSITION.
LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, I'LL BE GOING INTO DETAILS DURING THE SEVEN O'CLOCK MEETING, BUT, UH, IN A NUTSHELL THAT'S WHAT WE ARE, WE ARE DEALING WITH.
SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ALRIGHT.
THE CONSULTANTS ALSO ARE HERE ALSO, SHOULD YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER? SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. ANU, GO AHEAD.
YES, PARDONING MY VOICE THIS EVENING, BUT COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WHERE YOU HAD ALL OF THE DIFFERENT MEETINGS THAT WE HAD? THIS IS FOR THE APPOINTED OFFICIALS AND THE, JUST FOR UNDERSTANDING UHHUH
IS THAT CORRECT? WHEN WE, WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE PNZ? NO WOULD LIKE, LIKE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT, UM, WHEN YOU HAD THE MEETING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, IT WAS A JOINT WORK SESSION AND THAT IS NOT PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS WHEN YOU, THE CONSULTANT WAS JUST INFORMING YOU, UPDATING YOU ON WHAT THEY WERE WORKING ON AND WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
SO, AND THEN THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT YOU HAD WAS FOR THE, UH, TEXT AMENDMENT, YOU HAD TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THAT IT'S REQUIRED AND WE DID THAT.
SO THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE HAD, WAS IT THE ONE IN FEBRUARY THE 13TH? YES.
SO WHEN THE CONSULTANTS WERE MEETING WITH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES MM-HMM.
WERE LETTERS BEING CONTINUALLY SENT OUT TO THOSE BUSINESSES AND THE RESIDENTS RELATIVE TO THE PROCESSES THAT WE WERE IN.
SO ARE YOU ASKING WHETHER THAT WAS PUBLIC HEARING? NO, JUST WERE THEY BEING NOTIFIED BECAUSE I REMEMBER YES.
THAT THE CONSULTANT SAID THEY WERE OPENING TO HAVE DIFFERENT MEETINGS WITH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.
WE, WE DID SEND, UM, UM, POSTCARDS FOR ALL THE RESIDENCIES THAT WERE, THAT ARE WITHIN THE, THE, THE AREA ITSELF, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING REASONED AND THE ONES WITHIN THE 200 FEET.
AND, AND A LOT OF THOSE MEETINGS WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC YES.
TO COME IN AND TO VOICE ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD DURING THE WHOLE PROCESS, CORRECT? YES.
I JUST WANT, THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS PROJECT THROUGH THE ENTIRE OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, THEY DID HAVE A NOVEMBER 6TH, 2023 WHEN WE ARE STILL DEALING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE, THIS HAMPTON CORRIDOR CHARACTER CORRIDOR WAS ALSO PART OF THAT, UH, UH, PUBLIC INPUT ENGAGEMENT FOR THOSE WHO WERE PRESENT.
AND ALSO FEBRUARY ONE, TWO, AND THREE, THAT'S WHEN THE, UM, THE CONSULTANT DID THIS OPEN, OPEN HOUSE WHERE THEY HAD ALL BOATS HERE AND THEY JUST WERE HERE TO JUST ANSWER QUESTIONS TO INFORM THE RESIDENTS AND THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.
LET'S GO BACK, UH, TO AGENDA ITEM E TWO.
AND THAT IS, HE'S ALREADY BEEN READ INTO THE RECORD, BUT I'LL JUST RESTATE THAT.
IS, UH, APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO AMEND PLAN DEVELOPMENT 20 IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR A FOUR STORY HOTEL, UH, SPECIFICALLY SPRING HILL HOTEL.
UH, MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT ON THAT? MR. BUR, I JUST WANTED TO, TO STATE, WE NEED TO ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER CAESAR TO COME BACK IN SINCE SHE CAN'T PARTICIPATE, SHE CAN PARTICIPATE ON THIS DISCUSSION.
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ALRIGHT, MS. AZI, PLEASE.SO THIS ZONING CASE, UM, OF COURSE IT'S A NEW APPLICATION, BUT YOU DID SEE IT, UM, IN, UH, MARCH LAST DAY, ALMOST A YEAR FROM FROM TODAY.
IT'S A HOTEL THAT IS BEING PROPOSED CLOSE TO THE ONE THAT IS, UH, CLOSED RIGHT NOW.
THE MAGNUSON HOTEL RIGHT HERE.
AND THIS ONE IS GONNA BE GOING RIGHT NORTH, DIRECTLY NORTH TO THAT, UH, THAT HOTEL.
AND IT'S GONNA BE SPRING HILL HOTEL.
SO THEY'RE COMING BACK WHEN HE, WHEN IT CAME IN MARCH, MARCH 14TH, 2023, YOU ALL, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL.
THEY WERE ASKING FOR A THREE, THEY HAD THREE, UH, DEVIATIONS THAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR.
NOW, ONE OF THEM WAS TO NOT HAVE A RESTAURANT, THE OTHER ONE WAS TO HAVE A LAUNDRY, UM, OPERATED, UH, COIN OPERATED LAUNDRY FACILITIES IN THE HOTEL, WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED BY THE PD.
AND THE OTHER ONE WAS, UH, THEY WERE NOT PROVIDING ENOUGH MEETING SPACE IN THE HOTEL.
BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT, UH, NOW THEY'RE COMING BACK.
THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY DEVIATION, THEY'RE ASKING, THEY, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GIVING MUCH MORE THAN WHAT, UH, AT LEAST WHAT MORE THAN MINIMUM OF WHAT IS REQUIRED WITHIN THE, WITHIN PD 20.
SO THEY'RE NOW COMING WITH A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT AND A BAR.
THEY ARE NOW COMING WITH THE, UH, STATE OF THE ART, UM, FITNESS FACILITIES.
UM, THEY'RE ALSO COMING WITH MORE THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED SPACE FOR MEETINGS.
THEY'RE ALSO HAVING AN OUTDOOR FIREPLACE AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE PROVIDING COIN OPERATED, UM, UH, LAUNDRY FACILITIES.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING FOR, FOR APPROVAL BECAUSE IT IS MEETING THE INTENT AND THE SPIRIT OF OUR PD 24 HOTELS WITHIN THAT AREA.
OF COURSE, I ASKED THEM, I SAID, IF THE COMMISSION HAS TO ASK YOU AND SAY, WHAT MORE ARE YOU PROVIDING OTHER THAN WHAT IS BEING PROVIDED RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW, I MEAN, HOTELS AS EVERYONE KNOWS AROUND THAT AREA.
AND YES, THEY'RE SAYING, LIKE I SAID AGAIN, A RESTAURANT WITH A BAR.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS, THAT YOU FIND IN THE HOTELS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE.
MOST OF THE STAFF THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING NOW IS NOT PROVIDED WITH THE HOTELS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY FEEL CNCE CONFIDENT TO COME BEFORE YOU AND EVEN A STAFF WE ARE RECOMMENDING FOR APPROVAL BECAUSE WE, THEY ARE MEETING, THEY ARE SUPERSEDING THE REQUIREMENTS OF PD 20.
SO, AND, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, THE FUTURE END USE PLAN OF THE NEWLY ADOPTED, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT ALSO MEETS, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THAT, UH, FUTURE PLAN.
SO WE HAD NO REASON TO RECOMMEND FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN APPROVAL OF THIS, UH, PROPOSAL HOTEL, AND THE APPLICANT WILL BE HERE.
I, I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO BRING A PRESENTATION TO REALLY PUSH THIS NOTION AT HOME.
SO, BUT FOR NOW, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE AND WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY LETTERS IN OPPOSITION OR IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, HEARING AND SEEING NONE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, UH, THAT CONCLUDES, UH, THE BRIEFING ON THE THREE, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS, E ONE, E TWO, E THREE, UM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE CITIZEN APPEARANCES LATER IN THE REGULAR SESSION.
UH, IS THERE A VOLUNTEER, UH, FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE THIS EVENING? MR. RAVENEL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE ABOUT TO ADJOURN THE WORK SESSION.
I I'M GOING TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT NOW AND I'LL MAKE IT AGAIN DURING REGULAR SESSION.
SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS, UH, BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD, UH, THIS EVENING ON ONE OF OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, ONE OR MORE OF OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, PLEASE FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD.
UH, BASICALLY WE WILL EXCLUSIVELY GOING WITH THE COMMENT CARD, SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD, MAKE SURE YOU GET IT TURNED INTO STAFF PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ONCE THE PUBLIC HEARING STARTS ON A PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, WE WON'T ACCEPT ANY MORE, UH, COMMON CARD.
SO PLEASE PRINT YOUR NAME, UH, STATE WHAT AGENDA ITEM, UH, YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON.
IF IT'S MORE THAN ONE, PLEASE FILL OUT A SEPARATE, UH, UH, COMMON CARD FOR EACH AGENDA ITEM.
SO IF YOU WANNA BE HEARD ON ALL THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS, PLEASE PROVIDE US WITH THREE COMMENT CARDS.
PLEASE ALSO STATE YOUR POSITION AND DURING THAT PARTICULAR PUBLIC HEARING, I WILL CALL ON THE NAMES THAT I HAVE BEFORE ME.
I'LL ASK IF YOU WANT YOUR COMMENT CARD TO SPEAK FOR ITSELF OR IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK.
IF YOU DO WISH TO SPEAK, YOU'LL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES, UH, TO STATE YOUR POSITION.
UH, UNDERSTAND IS YOUR TIME TO SPEAK, OUR TIME TO LISTEN.
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AND SO WE WILL LISTEN AND HEAR YOUR POSITION FOR THREE MINUTES.SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT.
I'LL MAKE IT AGAIN, UH, DURING THE REGULAR SESSION.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME? HEARING IS SEEING NONE.
IT IS SIX 20, WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN THE WORK SESSION AND WE WILL RECONVENE AND START THE REGULAR SESSION PROMPTLY AT 7:00 PM THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
THE TIME IS NOW 7:00 PM WE WANNA GO
[C. REGULAR SESSION - CALL TO ORDER]
AHEAD AND CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR SESSION OF THE SOTO PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.TODAY IS TUESDAY, MARCH 26TH, 2024.
WE WILL FIRST OFF START OFF BY BEING
[B. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
LED IN THE PLEASURE OF ALLEGIANCE BY VICE CHAIR RAP.I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO, TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.
WE'RE AT LIBERTY AND INJUSTICE FOR ALL.
BEFORE WE GET TO THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM, I DO WANNA MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR EVERYBODY IN ATTENDANCE.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED TONIGHT.
UH, IF YOU WISH TO BE HEARD ON ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, PLEASE SEE MR. TRENT CARROLL.
UH, HE IS TO MY LEFT YOUR RIGHT WITH HIS HAND RAISED AT THE TABLE.
UH, PLEASE FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD FOR EACH PUBLIC HEARING YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON.
UH, WE WILL BE GOING EXCLUSIVELY WITH COMMENT CARDS TONIGHT, SO IF WE DO NOT HAVE A COMMENT CARD, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SPEAK, UH, THIS EVENING.
SO AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD ON ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND WE HAVE, UH, E ONE, WHICH IS A WEDDING BANQUET, UH, REQUEST E TWO, WHICH IS A HOTEL REQUEST E THREE, WHICH IS THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE REQUEST.
AND WE ALSO HAVE CITIZEN APPEARANCES.
SO IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD ON ANY OF THOSE ITEMS, PLEASE FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD, GIVE IT TO MR. CARROLL, UH, ONCE WE START A PUBLIC HEARING, ONCE WE CALL THAT PUBLIC HEARING, I'LL UH, NOTATE THE TIME.
UH, WE WILL NO LONGER ACCEPT COMMENT CARDS FOR THAT PARTICULAR PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, SO PLEASE FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD.
UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR POSITION IF YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST A PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.
UH, YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
UH, SO AGAIN, I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF OUR MEETING.
[D. CONSENT AGENDA Any item may be withdrawn from the consent agenda and acted on separately. Approval of the Consent Agenda authorizes the approval of each item in accordance with Staff Recommendations.]
COMMISSIONERS, THE FIRST ITEM FOR OUR CONSIDERATION IS APPROVAL.UH, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF MINUTES, UH, FOR THE PLANNING ZONING, REGULAR MEETING BACK ON MARCH 12TH, 2024.
UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE MINUTES OF MARCH 12TH, 2024.
ARE THERE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR MODIFICATIONS? ALRIGHT, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MEETINGS? UH, MINUTES OF MARCH 12TH, 2024.
UH, MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE A AMEN THE, UH, MINUTES FROM OUR PRIOR MEETING.
OKAY, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MR. CHAIR, SECONDED BY MS. CAESAR.
ANY UNREADINESS? SEE AND HEARING? NO UNREADINESS.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED TO DO THE SAME AS SAY NAY.
AND ALSO FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE NOTE THAT WE DO IN FACT HAVE A QUORUM.
TO MY RIGHT, WE HAVE MS. CAESAR, MR.
WE DO HAVE SIX OF THE SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT.
SO AGAIN, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.
WITH THE MINUTES BEING APPROVED, WE, WE WILL NOW
[1. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider an applicant's request to amend Planned Development-139 (PD-139) and obtain a Specific Use Permit ("SUP") in order to establish and operate a "Wedding, Banquet, & Party Facility (Indoor/Outdoor)" on Tract 11R in the DeSoto Event Center Addition (160 Seahawk Drive). The applicant is Wendell Lockhart and property owner is Lakeiera Burdett. (Case Z-1516-24)]
MOVE TO ITEM E ONE.ITEM E ONE, WHICH IS ON OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN APPLICANT REQUEST TO AMEND PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 39 PD 1 39 AND OBTAIN A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, SUP IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH AND OPERATE A WEDDING BANQUET AND PARTY FACILITY, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR ON TRACK 11 R IN THE DESOTO EVENT CENTER EDITION, UH, ONE 60 SEAHAWK DRIVE.
THE APPLICANT IS WENDELL LOCKHART AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS MS. LAIA.
THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1516 DASH 24.
GOOD EVENING, MS. JORDAN WILLIAMS. MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
CASE Z DASH 15 1 16 DASH 24 IS A SUP REQUEST FOR WEDDING BANQUET AND PARTY FACILITY.
THE SITE IS 1.776 ACRES AND CURRENTLY ZONED PD 1 39 WITH A BASE OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF EAST WINTERGREEN AND EAST OF KERO AVENUE.
IT IS ADDRESSED ONE 60 IT CHAW DRIVE TO THE LEFT IS A AREA VIEW OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND TO THE RIGHT IS A VICINITY VIEW.
THE SUBJECT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PD 1 39.
IT HAS A BASE ZONING OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES TO THE NORTHEAST AND WEST ARE VACANT AND CURRENTLY ZONED PD 1 39.
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PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH IS ALSO VACANT AND ZONED GENERAL RETAIL.THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IDENTIFIES THE SITE AS DESTINATION MIXED USE.
THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IS TO ESTABLISH AND OPERATE A WEDDING BANQUET AND PARTY FERTILITY, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR.
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OF THE 2024 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE SUBJECT PROJECT PROPERTY IS ACCESSED FROM SEAHAWK DRIVE, WHICH IS LOCATED OFF OF NORTH HAMPTON ROAD.
SEAHAWK DRIVE IS SHOWN TO BE A FOUR LANE TER ROAD IN THE, IN THE CITY'S 2024 MASTER THOROUGH PLAN THOROUGHFARE.
PLAN PD 1 39 WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED IN 1997.
THERE HAS BEEN MANY MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS, THE MOST RECENT BEING AN AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOR A TRAINING CENTER BY RIGHT AT 16 0 8.
OSPREY DRIVE SECTION 35.2 OF THE ZONING REGULATION STATES THAT THE IN APPROVING A REQUESTED SUP, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING.
ONE, THE USE IS HARMONIOUS AND COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING EXISTING USES OR PROPOSED USES.
THE ACT ACTIVITIES REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT ARE NORMALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE PERMITTED USE IN THE BASE DISTRICT.
THE NATURE OF THE USE IS REASONABLE FOR ANY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA HAS BEEN MITIGATED.
AND FIVE, THAT ANY ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS SPEC SPECIFIED ENSURES THAT THE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT PROPOSED ARE BEING UPHELD.
THE PURPOSE, THE PROPOSED USE OF WEDDING BANQUET AND PARTY FACILITY, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR IS COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING AND SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL USES IN GENERAL IN THE GENERAL AREA.
SINCE THE PROPOSED WEDDING AND BANQUET AND PARTY FACILITY, INDOOR OUTDOOR IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL USES, THERE IS NO NEGATIVE IMPACT IN ESTABLISHING THIS USE AT THIS LOCATION.
THE COMMERCIAL USE OF WEDDING BANQUET AND PARTY FACILITY INDOOR AND OUTDOOR OPPOSED THE INTENT OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
THEREFORE, STAFF SUPPORTS THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR A WEDDING BANQUET AND PARTY FACILITY INDOOR AND OUTDOOR AT THIS LOCATION ON SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 25TH, 2024.
A NOTICE FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING WAS PUBLISHED IN THE FOCUS FOCUS DAILY NEWSPAPER STAFF ALSO MAILED 17 NOTIFICATIONS OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TO PROPERTY OWNERS WHOSE OWN PROPERTY WITHIN 200 AND 400 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
AT THE TIME OF WRITING THIS REPORT, THREE LETTERS WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OF THE SUP REQUEST.
HERE IS THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN FROM THE APPLICANT.
HERE IS THE SUBMITTED LANDSCAPE PLAN AND HERE HERE'S THE SUBMITTED ELEVATION PLAN.
BEFORE I READ THE RECOMMENDATION, I WANNA MAKE A NOTE THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT IS COMING FOR A SUP BECAUSE THERE'S AN EXISTING BUILDING THERE, WHICH THEY JUST WANTED TO DO INDOOR ACTIVITIES BUT TO DO OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES THEY HAD TO ACQUIRE A SUP.
SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST TONIGHT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAKES A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO AMEND PD 1 39 AND OBTAIN A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH AND OPERATE A WEDDING BANQUET AND PARTY FACILITY, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR ESTIMATED.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. JOY WILLIAMS COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, MS. JOY WILLIAMS, YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.
HEARING AND SEEING NO QUESTIONS MR. CARROLL, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMON CARDS FOR ITEM E ONE? NO COMMON CARDS? UH, SO AT THIS TIME, UH, THE WINDOW FOR COMMON CARDS ON E ONE IS NOW CLOSED.
WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, FOR ITEM E ONE AT 7:09 PM IF THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT, YOU ARE, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME FORWARD.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF YOUR PARTICULAR REQUEST AND ALSO SUBJECT YOURSELF TO ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSIONERS.
UH, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT AND DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO COME FORWARD? YES SIR.
AGAIN, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO, BUT IF YOU WANT TO, PLEASE COME YOU OKAY? ALRIGHT.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND WITH THERE BEING NO COMMENT CARDS ON E ONE,
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WE WILL NOW TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AT 7:09 PM TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.WITH THAT BEING SAID, COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS I HAVE QUESTION BEFORE YOU CLOSE.
NO, WHAT HE SAID HE DIDN'T WANNA COME FORWARD.
YOU CAN'T ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER BROOKS HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU, SO YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO MAKE A COMMENTARY, BUT IF YOU'LL, UH, JUST ASK, ANSWER A QUESTION IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU'LL CUT ON YOUR MIC AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND SEE THE RESIDENCE AND SHE HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU.
IT LOOKS LIKE AMPLE PARKING, BUT HOW MANY PARKING SPACES IS ON THIS SITE? UH, 100.
AND BASED ON THE EVENTS THAT YOU'RE BE HOSTING, YOU DON'T FORESEE ANY SPILLOVER ONTO THE CITY STREETS OF SEAHAWK AND KESTREL? UH, NO MA'AM.
OKAY, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
HEARING AND SEEING NONE, I DON'T BELIEVE I FORMALLY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO I WILL DO SO NOW AT 7:10 PM ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? HEARING AND SEEING NONE.
ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION AS IT RELATES TO CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1516 DASH 24? UH, YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE Z 1 516 DASH 24 AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.
OKAY, IT IS BEEN MOVED BY MR. RAVENELL.
IT HAS BEEN SECONDED BY MS. BROOKS.
ANY UNREADINESS HEARING AND SEEING NONE.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED DO THE SAME AS SAY NAY.
[2. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider making a recommendation to the City Council for the applicant's request to amend Planned Development-20 (PD-20) in order to allow for a four (4) story hotel (Springhill Hotel) on a property located at the northwest corner of I-35 E and Wintergreen Court. The property consists of 2.908 acres of land and is addressed as 1324 Wintergreen Court. The applicant is Kiew Kam and Shiv Hospitality Group DeSoto is the property owner. (Zoning Case No. Z-1518-24).]
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS ITEM E TWO, WHICH IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO AMEND PLAN DEVELOPMENT 20 PD 20 IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR A FOUR STORY HOTEL SPRING HILL HOTEL ON A PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF I 35 EAST AND WINTERGREEN COURT.THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF 2.908 ACRES OF LAND AND IS ADDRESSED AS 1324 WINTERGREEN COURT.
THE A THE APPLICANT IS Q COM AND SHE HOSPITALITY GROUP.
THIS IS ZONING CASE Z DASH 1,518 DASH 24.
MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? GOOD EVENING.
COMMISSIONERS, UH, BEST WITH THE PLANNING DIVISION, CASE NUMBER Z 15 18 24 IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT REQUEST TO ALLOW FOR A FOUR STORY SPRING HILL HOTEL WITH NO DEVIATIONS.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF I 35 EAST AND WINTER GREEN COURT.
THE PROPERTY IS ADDRESSED AS 1324 WINTER WINTERGREEN COURT AND IT IS APPROXIMATELY 2.9 ACRES IN SIZE.
THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP TO THE NORTH IS THE, IS VACANT LAND, ZONED PLANT DEVELOPMENT, 20 TO THE SOUTHEAST MARTIN, SOME GRAND HOTEL ZONED PLANT DEVELOPMENT 20.
AND UM, TO THE, TO THE EAST IS UH, I 35 HIGHWAY.
AND TO THE WEST IS VACANT LAND AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ZONED PLANT DEVELOPMENT.
THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OF THE NEWLY ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS SITE IS SUITABLE FOR DESTINATION MIXED USES AND THE PROPOSED HOTEL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OF THE 2024 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE PROPERTY HAS ACCESS FROM WINTERGREEN COURT AND THE COURT AND WINTERGREEN COURT IS A LOCAL ROAD WHICH IS NOT SHOWN ON THE MASTER THERAPY PLAN.
PD 20 WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED IN 1984 WITH GENERAL RETAIL AS THE BEST ZONING AND THERE HAS BEEN MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS TO PD 20 OVER THE YEARS.
THIS PARTICULAR CASE CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON MARCH 14TH, 2023 AND THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT DID NOT APPEAL THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION AND DECISION THE APPLICANT IS NOW PROPOSING A FOUR STORY WITH 81 GUEST ROOM, SPRINGHILL HOTEL.
THE HOTEL WILL BE, WILL COME WITH MORE AMENITIES AS REQUIRED FOR A HOTEL WITHIN PD 20 WITH NO DEVIATION.
THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICATION FOR FOUR STORY HOTEL DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DESTINATION MIXED USE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OF THE NEWLY COM ADOPTED.
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PLAN IS NOTED ABOVE.THE APPLICANT STATES THAT THE PROPOSED SPRING HOTEL DEVELOPMENT SUPERSEDES THAT HOTELS THAT CURRENTLY EXITS ARE ALONG I 35 EAST.
YES, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE, THIS CURRENT APPLICATION AND THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION HAD HAD THREE DEVIATIONS AND ONE OF THE DEVIATION WAS WE HAVE NO HOTEL, NO RESTAURANT IN THE HOTEL.
AND THE OTHER DEVIATION WAS TO HAVE, UH, ONE BOARDROOM, WHICH WAS SMALLER THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED.
AND THEY WERE ALSO PROPOSING COIN OPERATED WASHER AND DRYERS WITHIN THE HOTEL.
HOWEVER, THE NEW APPLICATION, UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT WITH THE BAR, A STATE OF THE ART FITNESS FACILITY WITH THE LATEST EXERCISE EQUIPMENT.
THEY ALSO PROPOSING A CORPORATE EVENTS, CONFERENCES AND MEETING ROOMS THAT ARE EQUIPPED WITH CUT WITH AGE CUTTING TECHNOLOGY, AN OUTDOOR FIREPLACE.
THERE WILL ALSO BE NO COIN OPERATED, UH, IN DRYER FACILITIES IN THE HOTEL.
THIS CURRENT APPLICATION MEETS THE INTENT AND THE SPIRIT OF HOTELS HOTEL REQUIREMENT IN PD 20.
IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSED HOTEL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DESTINATION MIXED USE OF THE 2024 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED, UM, SITE PLAN.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED, UH, LANDSCAPE PLAN.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED ELEVATION PLAN AND THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE, UH, THE THE HOTEL ON SUNDAY, MARCH 10TH, 2024.
A NOTICE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING APPEARED IN THE DAILY FOCUS NEWSPAPER STAFF IN STAFF MAILED 15 NOTIFICATION TO PROPER OWNERS WITHIN 200 AND 400 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
NO LETTERS WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS, UH, PD 20 AMENDMENT.
AND THE AREA IN BLACK IS THEIR PROPOSED SITE FOR THE HOTEL.
THE AREA IN BLUE IS THE 200 FEET, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE AND THE 400 FEET IS IN, IN PAPER, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY OUR CITY COUNCIL.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE APPLICANT'S, UH, REQUEST FOR PT AMENDMENT TO DEVELOP A FOUR STORY HOTEL.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS MS. BROOKS? JUST ONE QUESTION JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
WAS THE NOCO OPERATED WALL SHARE AND DRYER A DEVIATION AND IT'S STILL A DEVIATION THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING? NO, IT'S NOT A DEVIATION, BUT IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN PD 20.
SO ORIGINALLY THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THE COIN OPERATED FACILITIES, BUT NOW, NOW THEY'RE JUST COMPLYING WITH WHAT THE PD C 20 SAYS.
THIS IS A SPRING HILL SUITES HOTEL, CORRECT? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MR. AU? YES.
UH, MS. RAZZI, HOW MANY MEETING ROOMS DID THE HO WELL THE HOTEL HAVE? UH, THEY HAVE ONE.
THE REQUIREMENT IS FOR THEM TO HAVE, UH, 800 SQUARE FEET.
THEY HAVE ABOUT 1000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE MEETING ROOM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.
UH, MR. CARROLL, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT CARDS ON E TWO? ALRIGHT, UH, WITH THAT BEING, UH, STATED, UM, THE WINDOW FOR E TWO COMMON CARDS ARE NOW CLOSED AND THE TIME IS NOW 7:18 PM WE'LL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, YOU MAY COME FORWARD, UH, TO STATE YOUR CASE, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO SO.
UH, BUT ALSO COMING FORWARD YOU ALSO WILL SUBJECT YOURSELF TO QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? DO YOU WISH TO COME FORWARD? ALRIGHT.
I DO HAVE ONE COMMON CARD, UH, THAT I WANNA READ INTO THE RECORD FOR ITEM E TWO.
UH, IT COMES FROM MS. JOYCE HILL.
UH, SHE STATED ON THE COMMON CARD SHE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK, UH, BUT AS IT RELATES TO THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, UH, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT SHE'S AN, UH, OPPOSED TO THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM THAT WAS THE SOLE COMMON CARD, UH, THAT I RECEIVED ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.
SO THEREFORE AT SEVEN 19, WE'LL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
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WITH THAT BEING SAID, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION? I DID HAVE A, I THOUGHT, UH, MR. CHAIR, THAT THE, UH, APPLICANT WOULD BE HERE.MS. RAZZI, MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THIS FOR ME.
THE, UM, RESTAURANT AND THE EXERCISE FACILITY, WOULD THOSE BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR JUST FOR THE GUESTS? THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
IT'LL, THEY'LL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, HEARING AND SEEING NONE, ARE WE READY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION? AND IF SO, WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO OFFER A MOTION? MS. BROOKS IN THE CASE NUMBER Z 1 15 1 8 DASH 24, I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVE THIS APPLICANT.
OKAY, THERE'S BEEN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. CHAIR.
MS. SECOND, UH, BY MS. CAESAR, ANY UNREADINESS? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED DO THE SAME BUT SAY NAY.
[3. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider making a recommendation to the City Council regarding the rezoning of properties within the new "Hampton Road Character Code" section. The properties within the "Hampton Road Character Code" section will be rezoned from their current multiple zoning districts to the following five (5) new zoning districts: 1. Urban Center, 2. Urban General, 3. Neighborhood Services, 4. Urban Neighborhood and 5. Neighborhood Transition. The applicant is the City of DeSoto. (Case #Z-1514-24)]
TO OUR THIRD, UH, PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS ITEM E THREE, WHICH IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE REZONING OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THE NEW HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE SECTION.THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE HAMPTON CO ROAD CHARACTER CODE SECTION WILL BE REZONED FROM THEIR CURRENT MULTIPLE ZONING DISTRICTS TO THE FOLLOWING, FIVE NEW ZONING DISTRICTS.
NUMBER THREE, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
NUMBER FOUR, URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND NUMBER FIVE, NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.
THE APPLICANT IS THE SEAT OF DESOTO AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1514 DASH 24.
MS. RAZZI, MAY WE HAVE A STAFF WORK PLEASE? YES.
CASE NUMBER Z 15 14 24 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE REZONING OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THE NEW HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE SECTION.
THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE SECTION WILL BE REZONED FROM THEIR CURRENT MULTIPLE ZONING DISTRICTS TO THE FOLLOWING FIVE NEWS ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH ARE URBAN CENTER, URBAN GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION AND THE APPLICANT IS SEAT OF DISORDER.
AS FAR BACK AS 2005, THE CITY OF DESO EMBARKED ON THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR TO A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY MULTI MODEL DESTINATION FOR CITIZENS AND VISITORS.
THE CREATION OF THE DESTINATION, THAT REQUIRES AN APPROACH OF TWO ZONING THAT FOCUSES ON BUILDING SIZE, HEIGHT, RELATIONSHIP TO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, PARKING AND SIGNAGE THAT IMPACT, IMPACT HOW THE CORRIDOR DEVELOPS AS A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY MULTIMODAL DESTINATION.
TO ENSURE THIS OUTCOMES, THE CHARACTER CODE FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION IS NEEDED.
AND ON IN APRIL 2ND, 2022, THE CITY COUNCIL HIRED HALF ASSOCIATES TO CREATE A CHARACTER BASED ZONING AREA ALONG THE HARMON ROAD CORRIDOR.
AS PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS FOR THE CHARACTER CODE, HALF ASSOCIATES CONDUCTED COMMUNITY INPUT MEETINGS TO KEEP RESIDENTS INFORMED, ENGAGED, AND TO PROVIDE INPUT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.
HALF A ASSOCIATES HELD A PUBLIC INPUT AND ENGAGEMENT MEETING ON NOVEMBER 6TH, 2023.
THERE WAS ALSO BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS PRESENTATION, OPEN HOUSE AND OPEN DROP IN PERIOD SESSIONS ON FEBRUARY ONE, FEBRUARY TWO, AND FEBRUARY 3RD, 2024.
OUR ASSOCIATES ALSO HAD HELD A MEETING WITH THE ZONING ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH CONSISTED OF STAFF MEMBERS, DEVELOPERS, HAMPTON ROAD, PROPERTY OWNERS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER, AND SOME, SOME OTHER HAMPTON ROAD STAKEHOLDERS.
AND, UM, I'VE ASSOCIATED MEETINGS WITH, UH, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AS WELL AS THE APPOINTED OFFICIALS.
AND THIS IS THE LIST OF THE MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD ON NOVEMBER 20TH, 2023.
THERE WAS A JOINT MEETING BETWEEN CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONCERNING THE PROJECT.
ON NOVEMBER 28TH, 2023, THERE WAS A PLANNING AND ZONING WORK SESSION FOUR ON HAMPTON ROAD PROJECT.
AND JANUARY 23RD, 2024, THERE WAS A WORK SESSION PLANNING AND ZONING WORK SESSION OF THE HAMPTON ON THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER COURT REGULATIONS.
AND ON FEBRUARY 13TH, THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING THAT RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE
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TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THE ADDITION OF THE HAMPTON CORRIDOR CHARACTER COURT CHARACTER CODE SECTION TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.AND ON NOVEMBER 19TH, 2024, THE CITY COUNCIL HAD A WORK SESSION ON THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE SECTION REGULATIONS.
AND ON FEBRUARY 20, THE CITY COUNCIL INITIATED THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE PROPERTIES REZONING.
AND MARCH 5TH, 2024, THE CITY COUNCIL HELD A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED THE ADDITION OF THE NEW HAMPTON CHARACTER CODE REGULATION INTO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO FROM THAT LIST, UM, THE THREE MAIN IMPORTANT CRITICAL MEETINGS WHERE THE, THE, THE, THE FEBRUARY 13, WHERE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ADDING THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER COURT SECTION TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS THE BOOK OR THE, THE REGULATIONS THAT WE USE WHENEVER WE ARE REVIEWING PLANS, UM, THAT COMES TO THE CITY.
WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO DEVELOP A PROPERTY, WE USE OUR ZONING ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE REGULATIONS.
SO ON FEBRUARY 13TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER COURT ADDITION OF THOSE REGULATIONS INTO THE ZONING ORDINANCES THAT THE CITY HAS.
AND THEN ON, UM, FEBRUARY 20, THE CITY COUNCIL INITIATED THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER COURT PROPERTY REZONING BECAUSE WITH THOSE REGULATIONS IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, THERE IS NEED FOR THE, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE INVOLVED TO BE REZONED.
AND THEN ANOTHER CRITICAL MEETING THAT HAPPENED, WHICH WAS ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING MEETING, WAS THE MARCH 5TH, 2024, WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE PNZ RECOMMENDED ON THE 13TH OF FEBRUARY.
AND ON MARCH FIVE, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE ADDITION OF THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE INTO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, MAKING IT OFFICIAL FOR THE HAMPTON ROAD COURT CHARACTER COURT CODE REGULATIONS TO BE PART OF THE CITY OF DESOTO ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND PURSUANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL EDITION OF THE NEW HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER COURT SECTION TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE ON MARCH FIVE.
AND THERE IS ZONING INITIATIVE ON FEBRUARY 20TH.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONTACT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER CITY COUNCIL ORDERED REZONING OF ALL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE NEW HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE SECTION.
THESE PROPERTIES WILL BE REZONED FROM THEIR CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT TO THE FOLLOWING DISTRICT THAT I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IN A MINUTE.
THE PROPERTIES UNDER CONSIDERATION ARE A TOTAL OF 466 AND APPROXIMATELY 423 ACRES IS SHOWN ON THE FOLLOWING MAP HERE.
THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE INVOLVED, THE DIFFERENT COLORS ARE INDICATING THE, ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE REASONED FROM THEIR CURRENT ZONING TO THE DIFFERENT, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WILL BE INTRODUCED WITH THE, WITH THE TON CHARACTER CODE.
AND MAY I TAKE THIS A MOMENT TO SAY THAT, UH, THE CITY IS NOT, THE CITY IS NOT TAKING ANYONE'S PROPERTY, THE CITY IS NOT, OTHER THAN JUST PUTTING THIS ZONING IN PLACE IF IT IS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL NEXT WEEK ON TUESDAY, THERE'S JUST, IT IS JUST THIS ZONING CHANGES ARE ONLY GOING TO TAKE PLACE IF AN APPLICANT, IF A PROPERTY OWNER SELLS THEIR PROPERTY TO SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO REDEVELOP THAT PROPERTY.
CHANGES ARE ONLY GOING TO TAKE PLACE IF A PROPERTY IS DESTROYED MORE THAN 50% AND THEY NEED TO REDEVELOP.
THAT'S WHEN THESE, THESE, UM, ZONING REGULATIONS WILL KICK IN.
OTHERWISE THERE'S NOTHING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEIR PROPERTIES.
IF A PROPERTY OWNER CHOOSES TO LIVE ON THEIR PROPERTY FOR THE NEXT 500 YEARS AND NO, DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING, NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN TO THEIR PROPERTY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, EVERYONE IS CLEAR THAT THE CITY IS NOT TAKING ANYONE'S PROPERTY.
THERE HAS TO BE A WILLING DEVELOPER, A WILLING PROPERTY OWNER WHO COMES TO THE CITY AND SAY, I WANT SOME CHANGES ON MY PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE WILL LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
SO THE NUMBER ONE ZONING DISTRICT WILL BE URBAN CENTER, IF I CAN HAVE YOUR ATTENTION SO WE CAN ALL BE ON THE
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SAME PAGE.THE NUMBER ONE ZONING DISTRICT WILL BE URBAN CENTER AND URBAN CENTER DISTRICT WILL CONSIST OF MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL CENTERS AND OFFIC OFFICE USES.
THE BUILDINGS WILL BE THREE TO FIVE, UH, VERTICAL INTEGRATED BUILDINGS AND THE HIGHEST INTENSITIES AND DENSITIES ALONG THE CORRIDOR, 99 PROPERTIES WILL BE REZONED FROM THEIR CURRENT DISTRICT TO THE EED CENTER ZONING DISTRICT.
AND THE, THESE PICTURES ARE SHOWING US THE POTENTIAL WHAT CAN BE DONE ON THOSE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE EED CENTER.
THESE ARE THE PICTURES, THE VISION THAT IS ENVISIONED FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE E AND CENTER.
AND THESE ARE THE PROPERTIES, THE DIFFERENT, THE CURRENT CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT THAT THIS PROPERTY, THE 99 PROPERTIES THAT I TALKED ABOUT, THAT IS GENERAL RETAIL, MULTIFAMILY, OFFICE ONE, OFFICE TWO, AND THE PLANT DEVELOPMENT AND SINGLE FAMILY, ALL THOSE WILL BE CHANGED TO URBAN CENTER.
AND THIS IS THE NUMBER, THE DIFFERENT NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE DIFFERENT, UM, ZONING DISTRICT.
AND IN PINK, THE MAP ON YOUR RIGHT IS SHOWING YOU THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE CHANGED FROM WHAT THEY ARE TODAY.
JUST THE ZONING TO URBAN CENTER AND THE NUMBER TWO ZONING DISTRICT WILL BE THE URBAN GENERAL.
AND URBAN GENERAL IS INTENDED TO DEVELOP AT A SMALLER SCALE WITH I INFLUE REDEVELOPMENT BETWEEN URBAN CENTERED AREAS.
THE DISTRICT WILL CONSIST OF MIXED USE COMMERCIAL RETAIL OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
THE BUILDINGS WILL BE TWO TO THREE VERTICALLY OWNED, HORIZONTALLY INTEGRATED AT MEDIUM DENSITIES AND INTENSITIES.
AND IN 92 PROPERTIES WILL BE REZONED FROM THEIR CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT TO URBAN GENERAL.
AND THIS, THESE PICTURES ARE SHOWING US EXAMPLES OF WHAT COULD BE ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
AND THIS IS NOT TO SAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIKE THIS EXACTLY.
THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IS, WHAT CAN BE.
AND THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THIS, ON THIS TABLE.
THIS COLUMN RIGHT HERE IS THIS, THESE ARE THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICTS AND ALL THESE WILL BE ZONED TO URBAN GENERAL.
AND THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE FOR A TOTAL OF 92.
AGAIN, THE MAPLE, THE MAPLE ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS SHOWING YOU THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE CHANGED FROM THEIR CURRENT ZONING TO E AND CENTER.
THE NUMBER THREE IS ZONING DISTRICT WILL BE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES WILL BE GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG MAJOR ROADWAYS AND ON THE AGES OF TON ROAD CARER CODE AREA.
THE DISTRICT WILL CONSIST OF AUTO, AUTO ORIENTED AND NON RESIDENTIAL USES, INCLUDING COMMERCIAL, RETAIL, OFFICE AND PERSONAL SERVICE USES.
THERE MAY BE LIMITED, UM, MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES THAT MAY BE ALLY OR OR ARY INTEGRATED.
AND THESE WILL BE ONE TO TWO STORY BUILDINGS AND 51 PROPERTIES WILL BE REASON FROM THEIR CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT TO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
AND, AND, AND AS I NOTED THAT THEY WILL BE MOSTLY AUTO ORIENTED AND NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.
SO, SUCH USES ENABLED SERVICES WILL BE LIKE THE PICTURES THAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT HERE.
AND THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT, UH, CURRENT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THAT AREA.
AND THEY WILL ALL BE CHANGED TO ENABLED SERVICES.
AND THE TOTAL NUMBER OF OUR PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE CHANGED FROM THEIR CURRENT ZONING WILL BE 50 51.
AND THOSE, UH, PROPERTIES ARE SHOWN IN BLUE.
ALL THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE SHOWN IN BLUE ARE THE PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE REZONED FROM WHATEVER THE CURRENT ZONING IS TO ABLE TO ENABLE SERVICES.
NUMBER FOUR WILL BE NUMBER FOUR.
ZONING DISTRICT WILL BE E NEIGHBORHOOD.
E NEIGHBORHOOD WILL SUPPORT MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WITH SOME LIMITED COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND OFFICE USES.
AND THE BUILDINGS WILL UP TO FOUR STORIES VERTICALLY INTEGRATED BUILDINGS, THE URBAN NEIGHBOR WOULD HAVE HIGH DENSITIES SUCH AS MULTI-FAMILY CONDOMINIUMS, TOWN HOMES WITH GREATER LANDSCAPE AND OPEN SPACES STANDARD TO SUPPORT RESIDENTIAL LIVING.
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TO URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING DISTRICT.AND IN A NEIGHBOR OR BEL URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, WE CAN EXPECT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE THREE STORY, LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, THEY CAN BE UP TO FOUR STORIES, BUT THIS IS WHAT CAN BE EXPECTED.
NOT EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT WHAT CAN BE EXPECTED WITHIN THAT E EBE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND AGAIN, THESE ARE THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THOSE AREAS AND ALL OF THEM WILL BE CHANGED TO E NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IN YELLOW ON YOUR, ON THE RIGHT SIDE ON THAT MAP, YOU SEE ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN YELLOW, THOSE ARE THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE CHANGED TO URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS NEIGHBOR WOULD TRANSITION, NEIGHBOR WOULD TRANSITION, SUPPORT SINGLE FAMILY AND MODERATE DENSITY.
MULTI MULTIFAMILY USES ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, DUPLEXES, TOWN HOMES THAT ARE MIXED TOGETHER.
NEIGHBOR TRANSITION PROVIDES A TRANSITION OR A BUFFER FROM HIGHER DENSITIES TO SURROUNDING LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY AREAS.
IT INCLUDES A VARIETY OF DWELLING, DWELLING TYPES AT MODERATE DENSITIES WITH LIMITED COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND OFFICE USES.
AND A HUNDRED, 167 PROPERTIES WILL BE NED TO NEIGHBOR WOULD TRANSITION IN THIS AREA.
AND AGAIN, HERE ARE THE EXAMPLES OF THE USES THAT WE CAN EXPECT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.
AND LIKE I SAID, THIS CREATES MORE OF A BUFFER THAT UH, YOU ARE NOT SEEING, YOU KNOW, FOUR STORY BUILDINGS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO TO BUFFER BETWEEN HIGH DENSITIES OR HIGH HIGH HIGH RISE BUILDINGS TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
SO YOU CAN EXPECT, UM, HOMES, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES SUCH AS THIS JUST TWO STORY AND SOME OF THEM ACTUALLY SINGLE STORY.
AND THE PROPERTIES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT ARE CURRENTLY WITHIN, UH, THIS AREA THAT WILL BE CHANGED TO NEIGHBOR WOULD TRANSITION, UH, ALL THESE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS AND IT IS A TOTAL OF 167 PROPERTIES AND THOSE PROPERTIES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SHOWN IN YELLOW.
NOW THE CITY OF OT IS A HOME RULE THAT REQUIRES THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OR OR DENIAL TO, TO CHANGES THAT AFFECT THE ZONING PLAN, THE MASTER PLAN OR THE MASTER THERAPY PLAN.
AND, UH, THE HAMPTON CHARACTER COURT SECTION PROPERTY ZONING WILL ORDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR PROPERTIES WITHIN THE HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR, THEREBY REQUIRING THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL IS STATED IN THE HOME RULE.
CHARTER ARTICLE 10, PLANNING SECTION TWO.
AND ON MARCH THREE, 10 AND 17 20 24, A NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING WAS PUBLISHED IN FOCUS DAILY NEWS STAFF MAILED 1,197 NOTIFICATION NOTIFICATIONS OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING REZONED AND PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 AND 400 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
AS OF MARCH AS OF TODAY, ACTUALLY THE FOLLOWING LETTERS WE RECEIVED THOSE THAT ARE POSING E AND CENTER, THERE WAS ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT AND THREE LETTERS IN OPPOSITION AND LETTERS IN SUPPORT OF URBAN GENERAL WAS FOUR WITH OPPOSITION NINE.
AND THOSE OPPOSING, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES WERE TWO AND IN FAVOR.
IN OPPOSITION TWO URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD THERE WAS ZERO IN SUPPORT AND THERE WERE TWO LETTERS IN OPPOSITION NEIGHBOR TRANSITION.
THERE WAS ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT AND NINE LETTERS IN OPPOSITION AND, UH, INFORMATION OR, UH, RESPONSES THAT WE GOT FROM THOSE WITHIN 200 FEET, WE GOT, UH, ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT AND EIGHT LETTERS IN OPPOSITION.
TONIGHT, HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE IS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONTACT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE REZONING OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THE NEWLY ADOPTED HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE SECTION REZONING PROPERTIES FROM THEIR CURRENT ZONING DISTRICTS TO TO URBAN CENTER, URBAN GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AND URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEIGHBORHOOD
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TRANSITION IS, WAS PRESENTED.STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE REZONING OF PROPERTIES WITHIN HAMPTON ROAD.
CHARACTER CODE IS PRESENTED AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
AND PLEASE ALLOW ME TO REITERATE AGAIN THAT THE CITY IS NOT TAKING ANYONE'S PROPERTY WITHOUT THEM WANTING TO MAKE ANY CHANGES ON THEIR PROPERTIES.
UNLESS SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THE PROPERTIES BY THE EIGHTH OF GOD, THE PROPERTIES DESTROYED MORE THAN 50% AND THEY HAVE TO REDEVELOP THAT PROPERTY, THAT'S WHEN THIS WILL KICK IN.
THE CHANGES WILL ONLY TAKE PLACE IF THERE IS A WHEELING PROPERTY OWNER WHO COMES AND SAY, I WANT TO MAKE CHANGES ON MY PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHEN THESE CHANGES WILL KICK IN.
IT'LL ALSO BE A, THEY WILL ALSO KICK IN WHEN THE DEVELOPER COMES WHO BUYS PROPERTY WITHIN THIS AREA AND THEY WANT TO, TO, TO, TO DEVELOP.
THAT'S WHEN THIS WILL KICK IN.
OTHERWISE THERE IS NO ATTEMPT BY THE CITY TO TAKE ANYONE'S PROPERTY FOR, FOR THIS TOOL TO HAPPEN.
SO THE CONSULTANT WHO WORKED ON THIS FOR AS LONG AS THEY DID, THEY ARE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT THE PUBLIC MIGHT HAVE OR THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE.
AND I'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MS. BROOKS? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
UH, CAN WE GO TO SLIDE 19? I WAS TRYING TO COUNT BEFORE YOU MOVED TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, SO WE MAILED OUT 1,197 NOTIFICATIONS AND WE RECEIVED THE TOTAL RESPONSES.
WHAT IS THE TOTAL RESPONSES? SOME OF THEM, I, WE JUST GOT THEM THIS EVENING, SO I DIDN'T, 6, 7, 8, PUT NINE IN SUPPORT.
DID WE RECEIVE ANY, UM, MAIL THAT CAME BACK THAT SAID UNDELIVERED? HOW MUCH OF THAT THIS 1,197 MAY HAVE COME BACK, MR. MR. CARROLL, IF, IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS, IF YOU'LL COME TO A MICROPHONE, PLEASE? YES.
COMMISSIONERS, WE ONLY RECEIVE IN RETURN MAILS, UH, FROM SENDERS, UM, AT LEAST 70 OR TO 80.
70 TO 80 OF, UH, THOSE WERE RETURNED TO SENDER.
SO WE'LL GO ON A HIGH END ABOUT 80? YES MA'AM.
RESPONSES OUT OF THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT WAS MY QUESTION, MR. RAVEN, I JUST WANT TO, ON THE SAME TR TRAIN OF THOUGHT AS MS. BROOKS ON THE 1,197 LETTERS THAT WENT OUT, WAS THAT A LETTER TO EACH PROPERTY OWNER? WE DID.
UH, WE, WE DID SEND, UH, TO EACH PROPERTY.
LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE 466 PROPERTIES THAT ARE REALLY GOING TO BE NED IF THIS GOES THROUGH.
WE DID SEND YES, INDIVIDUAL NOTICE NOTIFYING THEM TO LET THEM KNOW YOU ARE CURRENTLY SOLD THIS AND YOU'LL BE REASONED TO THIS.
SO THEY WERE VERY SPECIFIC FOR PROPERTY OWNERS WHO OWN PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CORRIDOR RIGHT NOW.
SO FOR A RESIDENTIAL HOME, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, YOU SENT, UM, ONE NOTIFICATION TO THAT HOME OR TO EACH OR TO THE ONE.
FOR EACH COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, ONE LETTER WENT TO EACH COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
IF THERE IS A DUPLEX, TRIPLEX, OR APARTMENT BUILDING, ONE LETTER WENT TO THE OWNER OF THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
AND WE DO USE, UH, THE, THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IN THE DALLAS, UH, PRESS OR DISTRICT FOR PROPER OWNER ADDRESSES AND NOT HERE AND YES.
AND THE REASON THAT I WAS JUST DIVING DOWN INTO THOSE NUMBERS IS BECAUSE IF WE SENT OUT 1,197 NOTIFICATIONS, AND AS MS. BROOKS HAS SAID 122, WE HAVE 42 PEOPLE WHO HAVE RESPONDED.
WE HAVE 80 THAT HAVE COME BACK, IT SEEMS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING IMPACTED BY THIS PROJECT DON'T CARE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE DEEPER AT THE NUMBERS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING A HUGE RESPONSE OF PEOPLE IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO IT.
THAT WAS JUST MY COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE ALONG WITH MRS. BROOKS.
AND, AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP, UM, THIS COMMISSION TOOK ACTION ON FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY 13TH
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AND THAT WAS AN ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.SO YES, ON FEBRUARY 13TH, THAT THAT WAS TO DO WITH, UM, TEXT AMENDMENT.
IT WAS NOT REASONING, RIGHT? IT WAS TAX AMENDMENT TO TO TO ADD THESE, UH, REGULATIONS.
TO THE ZONING ORDERS, CORRECT? YES.
DO YOU RECALL HOW MANY NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT FOR THAT? IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S FINE.
WE DON'T BECAUSE TEXT AMENDMENT IS JUST, IT GOES TO THE NEWSPAPER ONLY BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S THE WHOLE CITY, SO, OKAY.
MR. CAN I GO BEHIND MR. BROOKS AGAIN? BUT EVERY TIME THAT WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING, YOU SENT OUT 1,197 NOTIFICATIONS.
LIKE, LIKE I SAID, AGAIN A TEXT AMENDMENT, IT'S, NO, IT'S NOT REQUIRED FOR US TO SEND IN BECAUSE IT INVOLVES THE WHOLE CITY.
SO IT'S SENT TO THE NEWSPAPER.
SO IT WAS SENT TO THE NEWSPAPER ONLY TO THE NEWSPAPER, YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S TEXT AMENDMENT.
BUT ALONG THE SAME THOUGHT EVERY, THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITIZENS TO BE, HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN PROVIDING INPUT FOR THE CHARACTER CODE ALONG THE WAY, CORRECT? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, AND LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, THE CONSULTANTS ARE HERE SHOULD YOU NEED TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CONSULTANTS? YES, MS. BROOKS? THIS MAY BE CONSULTING OR STAFF, EITHER ONE AT THE MEETINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED.
I THINK IT'S ON ANOTHER SLIDE, WHICH WE SELECT NOVEMBER 6TH, FEBRUARY ONE, FEBRUARY 2ND, AND FEBRUARY 3RD.
DID WE HAVE ATTENDANCE SHEETS? HOW MANY PEOPLE ATTENDED THOSE MEETINGS? AND IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE PLEASE, SIR.
MY NAME IS BRAD JOHNSON WITH HALF ASSOCIATES.
UM, SO NOVEMBER 6TH, WE COULD PROBABLY DIG THAT UP.
I DON'T HAVE THAT AT MY FINGERTIPS.
THE FEBRUARY 1ST, SECOND AND THIRD.
UM, FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ACTUALLY SIGNED IN, I THINK WE HAD SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 65 TO 70 OVER THOSE THREE DAYS.
I THINK THERE WERE PROBABLY ANOTHER 20 OR SO THAT PERHAPS DIDN'T SIGN IN, BUT CAME AND HEARD THE PRESENTATIONS AND HAD DISCUSSIONS.
IF YOU REMEMBER, OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU SPOKE WITH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT PERCENT WERE HOMEOWNERS VERSUS THOSE WHO OWN BUSINESS BUSINESSES? I DON'T HAVE A PERCENTAGE.
IT FELT LIKE A PRETTY GOOD MIX TO ME.
UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST ANECDOTALLY SPEAKING, I, I SPOKE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN THE AREA.
I SPOKE TO PEOPLE THAT LIVED JUST OUTSIDE OF THE AREA AND ALSO BUSINESS OWNERS.
SO I THINK IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD MIX.
WE DID ASK THOSE QUESTIONS SO WE COULD DIG THAT, THAT DATA UP IF WE NEEDED TO.
SO WOULD YOU DESCRIBE, WITH THE INFORMATION THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM HOMEOWNERS AND BUSINESSES, WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU? WE GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENT LETTERS.
UM, WE SCANNED THOSE IN AND PROVIDED 'EM TO STAFF, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE WOULD'VE BEEN SUBMITTED WITH THE MATERIALS THAT WERE PROVIDED IN THE PACKET FOR THE FEBRUARY 13TH HEARING.
UM, CHARLES, I BEST YOU COULD CONFIRM THAT.
WHAT I'M SEEKING FROM YOU IS WHEN PEOPLE GAVE YOU INPUT ON THE CHARACTER CODE AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING, WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THEIR INFORMATION? WE TOOK THE INFORMATION, WE COLLECTED IT AND SUMMARIZED IT BACK TO STAFF AND DISCUSSED IT AND, AND, UH, CHOSE BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE HEARD THERE, NOT TO MAKE ANY MAJOR REVISIONS TO THE DRAFT.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT CAME BEFORE YOU ON THE 13TH.
SO, UM, PERHAPS BETWEEN YOU AND MS. BESTA, SO THE INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE GIVE YOU, DID YOU INCORPORATE, UH, THEIR THOUGHTS, THEIR IDEAS, UH, THEIR CONCERNS INTO THOSE THINGS THAT YOU SHARED WITH US AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS? I, IN THE EARLIER MEETINGS, I THINK FOR SURE WE DID NOT HEAR MAJOR INPUT DURING THOSE MORE RECENT MEETINGS, UH, FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ASKING FOR MAJOR CHANGES TO THIS, TO WHAT'S UNDER THE PROPOSED HERE.
WE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS FOR MY PROPERTY.
DOES IT MEAN I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO PROPERTY? WE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS, AS YOU KNOW ABOUT THE ROADWAY
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REDESIGN.SO LOTS OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
UH, WE ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS.
WE HAD A VARIETY OF PEOPLE THAT THOUGHT THIS WAS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
WE HAD A VARIETY OF PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T SO SURE THIS WAS, UM, UH, GONNA BE GONNA REALLY HAPPEN, OR, OR SKEPTICISM ABOUT THE ROAD.
SO IT WAS A MIXED BAG, BUT WE DIDN'T GET SPECIFIC COMMENTS SAYING, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THIS PART OF THE CODE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHY I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY ALONG THE WAY TO EXPRESS THEIR IDEAS, THEIR CONCERNS, AND THAT THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN TAKEN AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THOSE THINGS.
AND THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE HAVE HAD, THIS IS THE MOST PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE EVER HAD IN A MEETING.
AND THE, SO I'M, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING HAD GOTTEN OUT TO THE PEOPLE.
MR. BREWER, YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YES.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD, UH, THE DIFFERENCE THAT YOU'RE SEEING AS FAR AS ATTENDEES IS TEXT AMENDMENT VERSUS PROPERTY CHANGE.
STATE STATUTE, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND OUR OWN ZONING ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES THE TEXT AMENDMENT.
WE'RE NOT MAILING OUT NOTICES TO PEOPLE, UH, PROPERTY.
WE'RE JUST MEETING THE, THE STATE REQUIREMENT AND PUTTING A NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER SO MANY DAYS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
YOU'RE SEEING A LARGE ATTENDANCE HERE BECAUSE WE ARE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT PROPERTY CHANGES.
SO WE WERE REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND OUR OWN STATUTE TO SEND OUT NOTICES USING THE DALLAS COUNTY APPRAISAL, UH, RECORDS, PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE SHOWED ON THEIR LIST.
SO THAT'S WHERE THAT A HUNDRED AND AND 11, UH, CAME UP.
SO THAT IS WHY YOU'RE SEEING A DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE DURING THE TEXT AMENDMENT, IT IS ONLY PUTTING NOTICES IN THE NEWSPAPER.
NOW, FOR THIS HEARING, ALSO, UH, IF YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE DOWN HAMPTON, WE TRIED TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE BY PLACING THREE MESSAGE BOARD SIGNS IN THE VERY MIDDLE OF THE ROADWAY, GIVING NOTICES THAT PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE GONNA BE CONDUCTED TONIGHT, AND THEN AGAIN NEXT TUESDAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, FOR THE CONSULTANT? ALRIGHT, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.
MR. CAR, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY ADDITIONAL COMMON CARDS FOR E THREE? OKAY.
ALRIGHT, AND HAVING RECEIVED THE LAST CARD FOR E THREE, UH, THE WINDOW FOR COMMON CARDS ON E THREE IS NOW CLOSED.
WE'LL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AT 7 52 TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, FOR ITEM E THREE, WHICH IS CASE Z DASH 1514 DASH 24.
AND BASICALLY, I WILL CALL THEM, UM, IN THE ORDER THAT I HAVE THEM HERE.
UH, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU WOULD, AND INDICATE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, IF YOU DO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I'LL ASK YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE.
UH, THE FIRST, UH, COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS FROM MR. MIC MICHAEL HURT.
MR. HURT, ARE YOU HERE? AND DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK? YES, SIR.
IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD AND MR. HURT, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME, SEAT OF RESIDENCE, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I LIVE AT 2 21 SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD, AND I HAVE THREE OTHER PIECES OF PROPERTY ON HAMPTON ROAD BEING AFFECTED BY THIS.
I WAS MAYOR FROM 19 2001 TO 2007.
WHEN TOWN CENTER WAS DONE DURING THAT TIME, THE CITIZENS WERE ASKED TO PARTICIPATE IN A VOTE TO, TO SAY, YES, WE WANTED, THIS IS NOT GIVEN THE CITIZENS A CHANCE TO VOTE.
TOWN CENTER WAS SUPPOSED TO SPUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO REVITALIZE THE FOUR CORNERS AND SPILL OVER ALL THE WAY DOWN HAMPTON ROAD.
AND I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT WHAT WAS DONE.
WE REZONED HILLTOP CIRCLE, SO NOTHING COULD EVER BE RECONSTRUCTED UNTIL IT BECAME
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NEW AND MORE MODERN ACROSS THE STREET.AND I'M VERY, VERY SORRY, UH, BECAUSE I SAY I WAS THE MAYOR WHEN WE STARTED THIS.
WE NEVER GOT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET FOR A RESTAURANT, A FIRST CLASS NATURE, NOTHING LIKE THAT'S OCCURRED.
WE THREW $750,000 AT TOM THUMB, AND WE'VE GOT ANOTHER BUSINESS GOING OUT OVER THERE ON THAT SHOPPING CENTER.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS NOBODY EVER ASKS THE CONSULTANTS IS, HAVE YOU DEALT WITH A COMMUNITY THAT HAS OUR DEMOGRAPHICS? YOU'RE LEAVING YOUR NAME ON THIS WHEN YOU VOTE TO DO IT.
I REALLY WANT YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT THIS AT THIS TIME AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT IS GOING TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU'VE SEEN.
BECAUSE HALF AN ASSOCIATES ARE A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO BE AT THE END OF THIS WITH MONEY TO DO THE THINGS BECAUSE WE, THE CITIZENS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
AND YOU'RE TALKING A TON OF MONEY PUTTING THE, UH, EVERYTHING, ALL THE UTILITIES UNDERGROUND DOING AWAY WITH 444 EXISTING.
SOMETHINGS WILL BE CHANGED ACCORDING TO THIS PLAN.
THAT'S AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE.
THAT'S AN AWFUL LOT OF HISTORY IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND FOR THE RECORD, UH, MR. HURT IS IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM THAT THE NEXT COMMON CARD I HAVE IS FOR MR. HERBERT MARSH.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
AND IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME, SIR, AND CITY.
UH, MY NAME IS HERBERT MARSH, JR.
UH, I CURRENTLY RESIDE IN MIDLOTHIAN.
I HAVE EITHER BEEN A, UH, RESIDENT OF DESOTA OR A BUSINESS OWNER, UH, SINCE 1988 HERE.
UM, WONDERFUL COMMUNITY, UH, ENJOY DOING BUSINESS HERE.
I GET TO, IN MY BUSINESS, SPEAK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, EVERY DAY.
UM, EASILY 20 ON A GOOD DAY, MAYBE 40.
UM, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT I HAVE, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN ON HOW THIS IS GONNA IMPACT THEIR LIVES.
UM, SPECIFICALLY, WHAT IS THE, UH, COST GONNA BE? AND HOW, HOW DOES THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE A PROPERTY OWNER, IS THAT GONNA AFFECT YOUR, UH, PROPERTY TAXES, UM, PEOPLE ON HAMPTON ROAD OR RESIDING, UH, JUST A BLOCK OR TWO OFF OF ROAD? MR. ONLY REASON I'M GONNA INTERRUPT YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, WHEN SOMEONE HAS THE FLOOR, UH, PLEASE BE CONSIDERATE AND AND PLEASE ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK.
UH, IF YOU HAVE TO SPEAK, PLEASE KEEP IT TO A WHISPER, UH, BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE RESPECT EVERYBODY'S OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
UH, SO, MR. HERBERT, I STOPPED YOU AT THIRD.
UH, UH, MR. MARSHALL STOPPED YOU AT 39 SECONDS.
I WANTED TO BASICALLY JUST SAY THAT SO YOU WOULD HAVE THE FLOOR AND ATTENTION OF EVERYONE, SO IF YOU PLEASE CONTINUE.
UM, SO, SO, SO, UM, UH, EXPENSES ARE A CONCERN PEOPLE HAVE.
UM, HOW'S THAT GONNA AFFECT TRAFFIC IS A CONCERN.
I THINK FOLKS HAVE, UM, SURPRISES ARE NOT SOMETHING I THINK PEOPLE ARE REAL EXCITED TO DEAL WITH.
SO I'M NOT SURE I'VE LOOKED ONLINE.
I HAVE, UH, TRIED TO EDUCATE MYSELF, AND TONIGHT I'M TRYING TO EDUCATE MYSELF, LIKE I'M SURE MANY PEOPLE HERE ARE.
UM, JUST, WE WANNA MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
LIKE I SAID, I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD HISTORY, HAVE ENJOYED BEING HERE, STILL ENJOY BEING HERE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I BRING UP AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
AND MR. BOSCH, UH, ON YOUR COMMENT CARD, YOU BASICALLY PUT YOUR INITIAL REACTION AS NO.
UH, WHAT IS YOUR OFFICIAL POSITION? ARE YOU IN FAVOR OR, OR IN OPPOSITION? I CAME IN HERE WITH AN OPEN MIND TONIGHT, AND I WASN'T SURE, BUT I'M, I'M LEADING.
NEXT COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS FOR, UH, MR. SCOTT MCDONALD.
UH, MISS, MS. MCDONALD, YOU, IF YOU COME FORWARD, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES SPEAK.
IF YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE.
I'M SCOTT MCDONALD AND I'M FROM DESOTO.
I'M OPPOSED TO IMPOSING THIS ZONING
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ON ALL THESE PROPERTIES.THIS REQUEST WILL AFFECT 469 TRACKS OF PROPERTY.
AT LEAST 269 OF THEM ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY OF THE ORDINANCE, ALL 130 PAGES OF IT, NONE OF THESE PROPERTIES WILL CONFORM TO THE USE REQUIREMENTS OR THE EXTENSIVE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PLACEMENT AND APPEARANCE OF STRUCTURES.
IF THERE IS A CASUALTY LOSS OR SOME OTHER NEED FOR A BUILDING PERMIT, THE PROPERTY OWNER MAY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CHARACTER CODE, INCLUDING MOVING THE FOUNDATION.
APARTMENTS ARE PERMITTED IN EACH OF THE FIVE DISTRICTS.
HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS ARE PERMITTED IN FOUR OF THE FIVE DISTRICTS.
THERE IS NO LIMIT ON THE DENSITY FOR MULTIFAMILY.
IF THE DEVELOPER CAN PUT UP TO 90 UNITS TO THE ACRE, IF THEY CAN GET IT ON THE PROPERTY, IT'S PERMITTED.
THERE IS NO LIMIT TO THIS SIZE OF APARTMENTS.
THE CONSULTANTS HAVE ADMITTED THAT UNITS AS SMALL AS 450 SQUARE FEET OR SMALLER ARE PERMITTED.
THE SECOND PART OF THIS PROJECT, THE FIRST PART IS THE COMPLETE REDESIGN OF HAMPTON ROAD.
TWO LANES OF HAMPTON ROAD WILL BE ELIMINATED, BUT THERE WILL BE BIKE LANES.
TRAFFIC WILL BE CONGESTED DURING CONSTRUCTION FOR PROBABLY THREE YEARS, AND IT WILL NOT GET MUCH BETTER WHEN THE ROAD IS FINISHED.
THE CONSULTANTS SAY THAT POLK AND WESTMORELAND CAN HANDLE THE SPILLOVER, BUT I'M SKEPTICAL, AND YOU SHOULD BE TOO.
IF THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT FOR HAMPTON ROAD, THEN YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR THIS.
FOUR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL OUT OF SEVEN VOTED FOR THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND WE, WE CAN EXPECT THE SAME FOUR TO IMPOSE THE ZONING ON ALL 469 PROPERTIES.
THOSE FOUR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE CHOSEN TO BELIEVE THE PRETTY PICTURES AND THE PROMISES OF CONSULTANTS.
INSTEAD OF LOOKING OUT FOR THE WELFARE OF BUSINESS OWNERS AND THEIR EMPLOYEES, THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE NEARBY, AND THE STABILITY OF THE AREA.
THIS PLAN WILL DISRUPT TRAFFIC ON HAMPTON AND OTHER AREAS AND CREATES UNCERTAINTY FOR THE BUSINESSES ON HAMPTON AND INSTABILITY FOR THE NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS ABOUT THE WISDOM OF ADOPTING THIS PLAN, YOU SHOULD EITHER VOTE TO DENY THIS APPLICATION OR PASS IT ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION.
IF CITY COUNCIL REALLY THINKS THIS IS IMPORTANT, IT SHOULD TAKE MORE THAN FOUR VOTES TO IMPOSE IT ON 469 PROPERTY OWNERS.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOU'RE CERTAINLY ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINIONS, BUT PLEASE HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE WHETHER SOMEONE SPEAKS IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION.
AND MR. MCDONALD, UH, FOR THE RECORD, YOU ARE OPPOSED TO THIS AGENDA ITEM.
THE NEXT, UH, THE NEXT COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS FOR MR. BEN DRUMMOND.
YES, MR. DRUMMOND, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD, UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SEAT FOR RESIDENCE AND, UH, OR RESIDENCE.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, PLEASE.
YES, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR.
HOW IS EVERYBODY DOING THIS EVENING? DOING WELL.
BEN DRUMMOND, I'VE BEEN IN DESOTO FOR 25 YEARS.
I LIVE AT 4 3 6 CAMBRIDGE DRIVE.
SO TEXAS, MY PROPERTY BACKS UP TO YOUR DEVELOPMENT.
AND I THINK COMMUNICATION IS THE KEY.
YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THIS GENTLEMAN RIGHT HERE FOR SAYING THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT ACTUALLY THIS MEETING IS SO CROWDED IS BECAUSE I SAW THE SIGN ON HAMPTON THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
I DID GET NOTICES IN THE MAIL.
THE ISSUE IS IT'S NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A CONSCIOUS DECISION WHETHER I ACCEPT IT OR NOT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK AS A HOMEOWNER, THE THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS MY TAXES.
YOU KNOW, I'VE LIVED HERE LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT WHEN DEVELOPMENT COMES, MONEY COMES, AND IT HASN'T COME FROM SOMEWHERE.
AND I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST LEFT THAT SAYS, HEY, IT SHOULD BE IMPORTANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL CAN ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
YOU KNOW, TAXES, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, AND HOW ALL OF THAT ENTAILS AND TAKES PLACE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S VERY CRUCIAL TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
NOW, I WILL TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY.
A LOT OF THIS STUFF THAT Y'ALL PUT UP HERE IS GREEK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY IN LAYMAN'S TERMS FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THIS COSTING THEM WHEN THEY SPEND 30, 40 YEARS WHERE THEY LIVE.
YOU HAVE TO PUT A BEST FOOT FORWARD TO THE COMMUNITY IF YOU WANT THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND AND BE FAIR.
BUT UNDERSTANDING YOU IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
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TO SAY THAT, WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES MEAN? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE YOUNG LADY, SHE STOOD UP, SHE SAID SHE SHOWED SOME PICTURES AND THESE THINGS, BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO ME AS A HOMEOWNER? BECAUSE MY PROPERTY, BACK UP TO WHAT Y'ALL SAYING IS NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.YOU KNOW, WHEN I THINK ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THAT, I'M GONNA BE HONEST WITH YOU, I THINK ABOUT PUBLIC HOUSING.
HOW DOES THAT AFFECT MY COMMUNITY? I KNOW EVERYBODY IN PUBLIC HOUSING IS NOT BAD, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE EDUCATED AND KNOW THOSE THINGS.
AND I WANNA KNOW THE THINGS FROM YOU BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S MAKING THESE DECISIONS.
SOMEBODY'S MAKING THESE PLANS, AND ENOUGH INFORMATION IS NOT BEING SHARED IN LAYMAN'S TERMS. TO EXPECT FOR EVERYBODY TO GET UP HERE AND UNDERSTAND.
I KNOW EVERYBODY IN HERE IS, IS A LITTLE CONFUSED AND A LITTLE FRUSTRATED.
I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE DOING? BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GROW.
I GET THAT THIS IS A COMMUNITY WE HAVE TO GROW.
WE GOT GROWTH GOING UP EVERYWHERE AROUND US.
CEDAR HILL, LANCASTER, O CLIFF, O VILLA, EVERYTHING'S GROWING UP.
I GET THAT, BUT STILL KEEP UP AT WHAT COST THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. DRUMMOND.
AND OFFICIALLY, FOR THE RECORD, YOU ARE JUST SEEKING CLARIFICATION.
NEXT COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS FOR MR. BOB ADAMS. MR. ADAMS, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND SEE THE RESIDENCE AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.
BOB ADAMS, DESOTA, TEXAS, BEEN HERE FOR 64 YEARS.
SO I'VE HAD A BUSINESS HERE NOW FOR 40 YEARS ON HAMPTON ROAD.
AND WHAT WORRIES ME ABOUT THE CHANGING OF THE, THE, UH, ROADWAY AND EVERYTHING, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE A FOUR LANE ROAD, TURN IT DOWN TO TWO LANES WITH A CENTER TURN LANE BY LANES AND WALKING LANES, WHICH I HARDLY SEE ANYBODY WALKING ON HAMPTON ROAD NOWADAYS ANYWAY.
AND YOU'RE GONNA PUT THEM ON WESTMORELAND AND POLK INTO A RESIDENTIAL AREA WHERE I PUT MY BUSINESS FOR PEOPLE TO DRIVE BY TO SEE MY BUSINESS AND TO THE, FOR ME, THIS IS CRAZY.
THIS, THIS DOESN'T, YOU DON'T PUT A BUSINESS WHERE THE TRAFFIC'S NOT GONNA GO.
YOU PUT A BUSINESS WHERE THE TRAFFIC'S GONNA BE TO WHERE THEY SEE YOU.
AND I'M JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M OPPOSED TO THIS.
AND I DON'T, JUST LIKE MR. HURT WAS SAYING ABOUT THIS, WHEN THEY DID THIS CITY HALL, THIS CITY CENTER HERE, SUPPOSED TO BUILD, BRING BUSINESS AND EVERYTHING AND HASN'T DONE ANYTHING EXCEPT COST US MONEY.
AND IT'S JUST TAXES AND TAXES AND TAXES.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
UH, THE NEXT CARD I HAVE IS FOR MR. JUAN ROBERTS OLIVAS.
I CAN'T MAKE OUT THE LAST NAME.
OLIVAS, ARE YOU PRESENT? AND DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK? OKAY.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO TRANSLATE FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR YES.
AND ALSO HIS SEAT OF RESIDENCE.
WE WERE JUST WONDERING, LIKE, PUT THE MIC CLOSER.
WE WERE JUST WONDERING LIKE, IF WE DON'T SELL OUR HOMES, WELL Y'ALL REACH UP THE TEXT OR WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
OKAY, WELL, WHAT CAN HAPPEN IF WE DON'T SELL OUR HOMES? OKAY.
SO AGAIN, DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY.
YOU CAN ACT, YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
UH, WHAT WE'LL DO IS, UH, ONE OR MORE OF THE COMMISSIONERS MAY AF AFTER WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE MAY POSE THAT BACK TO STAFF IF THEY HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT OR THE CONSULTANT.
UH, BUT THIS IS YOUR TIME AGAIN TO POSE ANY QUESTIONS OR MAKE ANY STATEMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE, UH, ABOUT THE CHARACTER CODE, IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE KEEP YOUR VOICE OPEN.
SO, UH, IS IS HIS SOLE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS IF, UH, HE SELLS HIS HOME? IS THAT THE SOLE QUESTION? YES.
UH, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, UH, AS IT RELATES TO MR. UH, JUAN, ROBERT OLIVAS, UH, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, IS HE IN FAVOR OF THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? IS HE OPPOSED TO IT OR DOES HE HAVE NO OPINION AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW ON THAT? HE
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SAYS NO.IS IS THAT NO, HE'S OPPOSED TO IT.
THE RECORD WILL SO REFLECT THAT MR. JUAN OLIVAS IS OPPOSED TO A ITEM.
THIS ONE HERE, IF I, IF I MISPRONOUNCE THE NAME OR, UH, OR I GET IT WRONG, PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
AND I DO APOLOGIZE IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
I GOT SOME PRETTY BAD HANDWRITING.
AND THE REASON I'M OPPOSED TO THIS IS MY FAMILY HAS A TOTAL OF FIVE PROPERTIES IMPACTED BY THIS.
SO BASICALLY THE TAXES GOT UP SO HIGH ON MY DAD'S PROPERTY.
ONE OF MY DAD'S RENTAL PROPERTIES WENT UP TO $14,000 A BLOCK AWAY FROM BISHOP ARTS.
SO BASICALLY, THIS IS ANOTHER BISHOP ARTS IS PROJECT IS WHAT THIS IS.
SO, UH, MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN HERE OVER 20 YEARS, OKAY? WE JUST RECEIVED A NOTICE THREE OR FOUR DAYS AGO.
AND I DID GO TO A, A FEW NEIGHBOR'S HOMES AND THEY HAD NO CLUE WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SO THE NUMBERS THAT YOU GUYS PUT UP, I REALLY THOUGHT THOSE NUMBERS ABOUT THEM MAILING IT, UNLESS THEY WERE SENT CERTIFIED MAIL, YOU CAN PROVE IT.
I DOUBT THOSE NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE.
UH, I WROTE SOME, UH, THINGS DOWN HERE.
SO YES, WE'RE OPPOSED TO THE TWO LANES.
I KNOW IT'S ALREADY GONE THROUGH.
IT'S GONNA GO FROM FOUR LANES TO TWO LANES.
MY WIFE AND I TAKE AT LEAST FIVE MINUTES, SOMETIMES 10 MINUTES TO GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE NEED ACTUALLY A SIGNAL LIGHT TO TRY TO GET OUTTA OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO NOW IT'S GONNA BE DOWN TO TWO PLUS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PEOPLE WALKING BY HOW MY WIFE AND I GONNA GET OUT OF OUR PRO OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE JUST LIVE DOWN THE STREET FROM HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER THING THAT'S INTERESTING TO ME IS I'VE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS AND MOST OF THE AREA THAT'S AFFECTED ARE PRIMARILY HISPANIC AND WHITE FAMILIES.
AND THEY'RE REALLY A CONCERN TO ME AND MY WIFE.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS A PREDOMINANTLY BLACK AREA.
IT IS NAMED AFTER A SPANISH CELLAR.
THE, UH, FOR THE RECORD ISN'T, HE'S NOT PORTUGUESE LIKE A SIGN SAID SOMEWHERE.
JUST WANNA GET THAT ON THE RECORD.
MY, MY PARENTS GO THERE AND THE PASTOR HAS ALREADY RECEIVED AN OFFER FROM THE CITY.
SO YOU GUYS ARE HAVING SUPPOSEDLY FORMAL MEETINGS ABOUT THIS TO SEE IF IT'S GONNA GO THROUGH WHEN IN ACTUALITY YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY HAD YOUR MINDS MADE UP.
OKAY? THE RECEIPT OF AN OFFER OFFER DOWN THE STREET AND IT IS, THE CHURCH IS RIGHT, LIKE A FEW HOUSES DOWN FROM I COULD LITERALLY SEE THE HOUSE.
SO I KNOW THAT, UH, THE, THE, YOU GUYS HAVE TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE, OH, WELL OUR FAMILIES DON'T CARE.
WE ONLY GOT SO MANY RETURNS AND THIS THAT, AND I THINK YOU GUYS DIDN'T SEND OUT THE BONUSES.
I REALLY DON'T, REALLY DON'T, UM, WHO CAME UP WITH THIS PLAN? SO WE CAN VOTE 'EM OUT, OUT OF OFFICE, YOU KNOW, AS CITIZENS OF DESOTO BECAUSE WE'RE TIRED OF ALL THESE PROJECTS THAT SUPPOSEDLY ARE SUPPOSED TO BEAUTIFY THE CITY.
THERE'S MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT ARE THROWN AWAY AND NOTHING HAPPENS.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN HERE OVER 20 YEARS.
WE'VE SEEN, WE'VE SEEN WHAT'S GOING ON.
BE BEFORE YOU LEAVE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, JUST SO WE CAN DOCUMENT PROPERLY, WOULD YOU SPELL YOUR FIRST NAME AND YOUR LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD? YES.
G-E-R-O-N-I-M-O, CARDENA, C-A-R-D-E-N-A-S.
SO, LIKE I SAID, IT'S GONNA IMPACT FIVE PROPERTIES.
WE MOVED FROM BISHOP PARKS TO COME OVER HERE AND NOW THE SAME THING'S GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN.
SO WE'RE BACK TO SQUARE ONE AND THEN WE HAVE TO GET UP AND MOVE AGAIN.
ALRIGHT, LET LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, THAT WAS THE LAST COMMON CARD THAT I HAVE FOR THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.
WE'LL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE CONSULTANT, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, NOW WILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
MR. BUR, I SAW A COUPLE OF HANDS.
I WASN'T SURE IF THEY FILLED OUT CARDS.
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CARDS? I I SIGNED IN HERE.MS. CARROLL, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENT CARDS? CAN I ATTACHED A COMMENT WHEN I TURNED IN, UM, THE FORM? YEAH, I ATTACHED MY COMMENTS TO ON A PIECE OF PAPER.
HANDWRITTEN, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE FORMS, WE RECEIVED FOUR OF THOSE.
THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE SEPARATE THAN THE INFORMATIONAL NOTICE TO SPEAK.
SO YEAH, TO, TO SPEAK, TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
MR. CARROLL HAS COMMON CALLS AND HE'S HOLDING ONE UP RIGHT THERE.
AND BASICALLY WHAT WE SAID IS, BEFORE EACH PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPEN, YOU HAD TO HAVE A PUBLIC HAD A COMMON CARD ON FILE UP HERE.
SO WE COULD CALL ON YOU AND THEN GET WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO SPEAK OR LET YOUR COMMON CARD SPEAK FOR ITSELF.
CAN I SPEAK ONE TIME? I'VE GOT ONE.
WE DON'T GET TO THE PUBLIC DOESN'T GET TO SAY WHAT, MA'AM, YOU FEEL THIS IS NOT RIGHT, MA'AM? NO, YOU, YOU ARE OUTTA ORDER.
WHATCHA ARE YOU GONNA DO ARREST ME? WELL, MA'AM, MA'AM, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE RULES WERE ARTICULATED IN THE WORK SESSION AND THE REGULAR SESSION THAT BASICALLY, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, EVERYBODY WHO FOLLOWED THE RULES AND FILLED OUT A COMMON CARD HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT REGARDLESS OF THEIR POSITION.
MS. MS. JOY WILLIAMS. ARE ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE'S A COMMON CARD? WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT.
AS A POINT OF ORDER, I'D LIKE TO EITHER PULL THOSE, UH, COMMENT CARDS OR, OR CHECK AND LOCATE HERS BECAUSE I I'M NOT COMFORTABLE.
NO, MS. JORDAN WILLIAMS HAS JUST SAID THAT EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE IT UP HERE, YOU CAN CERTIFY SHE DID TURN IN A CARMEN CAR.
I STOOD AT THE DOOR NOT TO SEAT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.
SO MA'AM, IF YOU WANNA COME FORWARD, PLEASE DO.
CHAIRMAN, MY NAME LOUISE CAPSIS ON, DO YOU MIND? ONE SECOND, ONE MINUTE.
CHAIRMAN, PEWS, SINCE YOU CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, GO AHEAD AND JUST REOPEN THAT.
UM, ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YOU, YOU DO.
SO AT THAT TIME, THANK YOU MR. SMITH.
SO, UH, BECAUSE THERE WAS A COMMENT CARD THAT WE COULD NOT LOCATE, BUT WE HAVE VERIFIED, UH, THAT THE COMMENT CARD WAS SUBMITTED OR PURSUANT TO THE RULES ESTABLISHED TONIGHT, WE WILL REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT EIGHT 17, UH, TO RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT.
UH, SO MA'AM, IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE.
I LIVE AT 2 0 1 JEFFERSON AVENUE.
WE HAVE LIVED HERE FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND IT WAS THE BURBS WHEN WE MOVED HERE.
I KNOW THAT PROGRESS IS SUPPOSED TO COME, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IN DESOTO IT HAS NOT.
IT'S AN, IT'S BEEN A NICE COMMUNITY, BUT WHY WERE WE NOT INFORMED PRIOR? LET US KNOW.
WRITE SOMETHING DOWN THAT SAYS IT IS AFFECTING YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOBODY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD KNEW ABOUT IT UNTIL WE JUST GOT THE LETTERS RECENTLY AND NONE OF THE PICTURES OF WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING LOOK LIKE ANY OF THE HOUSES ON OUR STREET.
HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GET OUT OF THE STREET DURING ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION? HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GET IN AND OUT WHEN ALL THIS IS GOING ON? YOU'RE GONNA PUT LINES UNDERNEATH THE STREET.
THE UTILITIES ON BOTH SIDES OF HAMPTON.
AND I WOULD'VE COME TO SOME OF THE OTHER MEETINGS EXCEPT I'VE HAD HEALTH ISSUES AND I WAS UNABLE TO COME.
AND IF YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT TO MY HOUSE AND MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSES, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? ARE WE GOING TO BE STUCK THERE AND HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET OUT OF OUR STREET? HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO PAY OUR INCREASED TAXES FOR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN? THAT IS NOT RIGHT? WE, THE PUBLIC PAYS TAXES.
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INFORMED IN A TIMELY MANNER, NOT JUST A LETTER HERE OR THERE, WILLY-NILLY.YOU NEED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW IT INVOLVES THEM.
IT USED TO BE THE VERBS, NO VERBS ANYMORE.
IT STATES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE, UM, AREA FIVE, WHICH IS MULTIPLEX, MULTI-FAMILY USE AND DWELLING UNITS.
EVERY SINGLE HOUSE IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE ON OUR STREET.
AND WE HAVE SEVERAL ELDERLY FAMILIES INCLUDING US THAT HAVE LIVED HERE.
AND THERE'S SOME NEIGHBORS THAT ARE OLDER THAN US AND THEY, THAT'S THE ONLY HOME THEY'VE LIVED IN.
WHAT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO? WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO MOVE TO? AND MA'AM, THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S YOUR TIME.
WOULD YOU, SINCE WE MISPLACED YOUR COMMON CARD, WOULD YOU PLEASE MA'AM? MA'AM, WOULD YOU, UH, AGAIN, SINCE WE MISPLACED YOUR COMMENT CARD, WOULD YOU PLEASE AGAIN STATE YOUR NAME, UH, FOR THE RECORD AND YOUR OFFICIAL POSITION? LOUISE KASSIS.
AND I LIVE AT 2 0 1 JEFFERSON AVENUE AT DEAD END STREET.
AND I OPPOSE WHOLEHEARTEDLY AND THIS CITY NEEDS TO GET ITS ACT TOGETHER.
THE YOUNG LADY SITTING HERE IN THE FRONT ROW.
UH, DID COUNSEL SAY THAT HE WAS OPENING IT UP FOR ANYBODY NOW THAT WANTED TO SPEAK? I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION.
I, I DON'T OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, THIS MEETING'S RUN BY THE CHAIRPERSON.
I WOULD PROVIDE ANYONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, WHO WANTS TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS JUST REGARDLESS OF COMMENT CARDS, LIKE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK SPEAK, ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.
NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I WANNA BE CLEAR NOW, WE DID SET PARAMETERS FOR HAVING THE COMMENT CARDS.
'CAUSE WITH THIS NUMBER OF PEOPLE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE KEEP UP WITH EVERYBODY WHO SPEAKS THEIR OFFICIAL POSITION.
I HAVE NO POSITION ON COMMENT CARDS.
UM, BUT ANYONE IN A PUBLIC HEARING WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.
I WOULD, RULES CAN BE ESTABLISHED, BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM SPEAKING ON A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.
SO, OKAY, SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I WOULD ACQUIRE THEM TO, IF YOU WANT A COMMENT CARD TO FILL ONE OUT.
UM, BUT I WOULDN'T PREVENT ANYONE FROM SPEAKING AT A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.
OKAY? SO, ALRIGHT, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
'CAUSE I DO RESPECT YOU MR. SMITH.
SO THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, OKAY? WE HAVE YOUR OFFICIAL POSITION ON THE RECORD.
IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK, UH, YOU WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES.
UH, BUT WE STILL NEED A COMMENT CARD FROM YOU BECAUSE WE WANT TO CAPTURE YOUR POSITION.
SO, MR. CARROLL, IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU'LL HAND OUT COMMENT CARDS TO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE NOT SPOKEN, AND THEN WE WILL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY.
SO MA'AM, I THINK YOU WILL NEXT UP.
AND SO, UH, MR. CAR, KEEP, IF YOU WILL KEEP YOUR HANDS UP AND MR. CARROLL WILL COME AROUND, OR MS. JOY WILLIAMS WILL ASSIST HIM AND GET YOU A COMMENT CARD.
MA'AM, YOU'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND BE RECOGNIZED IF YOU WANNA COME ON UP, IF YOU'LL JUST DO ME A FAVOR AND PLEASE FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD BEFORE YOU LEAVE.
I'LL, ALRIGHT, I'LL, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AGAIN, UH, LET, LET'S BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYONE WHO'S SPEAKING.
SO PLEASE, IF IT IS NOT YOUR TURN TO SPEAK, UH, PLEASE, LET'S, LET'S TURN OUR ATTENTION TO THE PERSON WHO HAS THE FLOOR.
SO MA'AM, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR, UH, NAME AND ALSO YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
HOLD ON, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.
AND, AND LADIES, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AGAIN, WHETHER YOU'RE GETTING A COMMENT CARD OR WHETHER YOU'RE EXITING, PLEASE DO SO QUIETLY.
WE WANT TO GIVE OUR RESPECT TO THE PERSON WHO HAS THE FLOOR.
OKAY, MA'AM, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU'LL GO AHEAD, THAT'S OKAY.
MY NAME IS THERESA POWELL AND I LIVE IN DESOTO, RIGHT OFF HAMPTON ON HER STREET,
UM, I'M GONNA JUMP AROUND BECAUSE I'VE BEEN MAKING NOTES WHEN I'M HEARING THINGS.
UM, I BECAME AWARE OF THIS, UH, JANUARY OR FEBRUARY WHEN I RECEIVED A POSTCARD IN THE MAIL.
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RECEIVED A LETTER IN MARCH.ALL THOSE, UH, DATES THAT SHE HAD UP ON THE SCREEN, I WAS ACTUALLY OUT OF TOWN.
UH, I HAVE A NEW GRANDBABY AND I'VE BEEN ON VACATION, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
UM, I ALSO, UH, WHEN I WAS COMING HOME LAST WEEK, SAW THE ROADWAY SIGN.
THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I'D SEEN IT.
AS FAR AS THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER, I DON'T READ IT.
I MEAN, I GET MY NEWS FROM BIGGER NEWSPAPERS, BUT, UM, I, I WOULD THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T READ THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER.
UM, I LIKE THE GENTLEMAN OVER HERE THAT SAID WE HAD A RIGHT TO VOTE ON THIS.
UM, I AM STILL NOT CLEAR WITH THE RENTER RECEIVING THE, UH, THE FORM THAT CAME IN THE MELON, THE POSTCARD, OR IF THE ACTUAL OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
THERE'S A HOUSE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME THAT IS OWNED BY SOMEONE ELSE IN ANOTHER TOWN, NORTH DALLAS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE RENTER RECEIVED THE INFORMATION OR IF MR. HOP EPSTEIN RECEIVED THE INFORMATION.
SO THAT'S STILL NOT CLEAR TO ME.
UM, AND THE POSTCARD AND THE, THE FORM LETTER WAS VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND.
I'M AN EDUCATED WOMAN, I JUST DIDN'T GET IT.
SO I CALLED HERE WHEN I GOT HOME LAST WEEK AND I STILL DIDN'T, COULDN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND.
I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH THE CITY TAKING MY PROPERTY.
I'M CONCERNED WITH MY PROPERTY VALUE WHEN MY HUSBAND RETIRES IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA STAY IN DESOTO.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 10 YEARS, BUT I LIVED HERE BACK IN THE SEVENTIES ALSO WITH MY MOTHER AND FATHER.
SO, UM, WHEN I MOVED BACK TO THIS AREA, I MOVED FROM HILLSBOROUGH.
I'M ORIGINALLY FROM OAK CLIFF AND I DID SEE THIS HAPPEN TO BISHOP ARTS, UM, DISTRICT IN OAK CLIFF THAT THE GENTLEMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT.
I CHOSE DESOTO BECAUSE OF ITS SAFETY, BECAUSE IT WAS CLEANER.
IT HAD LOWER CRIME HERE THAN ALL THE SUBURBS AROUND US.
UH, THE POLICE COMMISSIONER WAS A BIG, THERE WERE SEVERAL REASONS WHY I CHOSE TO BUY A HOME IN DESOTO AND COME BACK TO THIS AREA.
UM, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS IN HILLSBOROUGH.
I WAS, UH, THERE WHEN THEY RIPPED UP THE STREETS.
WE HAVE FOUR LANES AND AT JEFFERSON AND HAMPTON, IT TAKES A WHILE TO TURN LEFT TO GO TOWARDS BELTLINE.
ALRIGHT? WE HAVE FOUR LANES RIGHT NOW.
AND YOU'RE GONNA TURN, I'M UNDERSTANDING TWO LANES IN A CENTER LANE, THAT'S GONNA BE MORE TRAFFIC.
THERE'S THREE TIMES A DAY, IT'S BUSY AND, AND ALL WEEKEND.
I'M AND THAT, THAT'S YOUR TIME.
WELL, SO YOUR OFFICIAL I THINK I'VE GOT ENOUGH IN.
AND YOUR OFFICIAL POSITION IS YOU ARE OPPOSED.
AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE NOT FILLED OUT A COMMON CARD, IF YOU'LL DO ME A FAVOR, I WILLIAMS HAS JUST SET.
THE NEXT PERSON WE WILL CALL UP IS MS. MONICA JEFFERSON.
MS. JEFFERSON, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME, STATE THE RESIDENCE AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
MY NAME IS MONICA LAURENT JEFFERSON.
I LIVE AT 1 0 3 SPINNER CIRCLE, DESOTO, TEXAS.
I MOVED TO DESOTO BECAUSE I LIKE MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY NEIGHBORS ARE BETTER THAN ZOOM.
UH, BETTER THAN RING ANYTHING THAT GOES ON IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY'RE GONNA TELL ME ABOUT IT BEFORE I GET HOME.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, IF YOU WANNA FIX SOMETHING, FIX THE TRAFFIC FLOW THAT'S COMING FROM OUT HAMPTON OR TRYING TO GET OUT OF THOSE OUT, OUT ON THAT ROAD BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC THERE IS HORRIBLE AND YOU GOTTA CHANGE IT DOWN TO TWO LANES.
THAT AND, AND THESE APARTMENTS OR WHATEVER THIS DUPLEX THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA DO.
UM, I DON'T WANT THAT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DIDN'T MOVE TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO MOVE BY SOME DUPLEXES, PLEXES, PLEXUS.
AND I HAD TO GET MY SISTER, WHO WAS A REALTOR IN NEW YORK TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THIS WAS.
YOU MAY AS WELL HA HA HAVE PUT THIS, UM, IN THE SMALLEST FONT AS POSSIBLE.
MY PROFESSION IS HUMAN RESOURCES AND IF I GAVE, UH, AN EMPLOYEE THIS, THEY WOULD SAY, WHAT THE HECK IS THIS? YOU DID NOT SEND OUT THOSE NOTICES TO EVERYONE.
'CAUSE EVERYONE DIDN'T GET IT.
I WAS HERE THE FIRST TIME THE DEVELOPERS WERE HERE AND THEY DID A SONG AND DANCE AND I, I DIDN'T BUY IT THEN AND I'M NOT BUYING IT NOW.
AND SO NO, I'M OPPOSED OF THIS.
I DON'T WANT THIS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T WANNA SEE THE DEVELOPERS COME UP HERE.
I DON'T WANT ANYTHING OF THAT.
I WANNA LIVE IN MY HOUSE, STAY IN MY HOME AND KEEP MY NEIGHBORS
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UNTIL GOD CALL US HOME.MA AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE.
NEXT COMMON CARD I HAVE IS FOR, UH, MS. SANDY WILLIAMS. MS. WILLIAMS, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME.
MY NAME IS SANDY WILLIAMS. I LIVE AT 5 0 3 NORTHAMPTON ROAD.
I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE NOVEMBER 7TH, 1983 WAY BEFORE PROBABLY MOST OF Y'ALL ANYWAY.
WE HAVE NO ALLEYS IN DESOTO ON EITHER SIDE.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND? IF YOU TAKE MY FRONTAGE PROPERTY, I WILL HAVE NO WAY TO ACCESS MY BUILDING.
I HAD A DAYCARE THERE FOR 20 SOMETHING YEARS.
NOW I HAVE A HOUSE CLEANING BUSINESS AND I WANNA KNOW WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO TO MY PROPERTY VALUE AS FAR AS WHO WOULD WANT PROPERTY, YOU CAN'T ACCESS, I MEAN YOU CAN'T GET TO IT.
YOU'RE WANTING TO TAKE OFF MY FRONT OF MY BUILDING AND TURN IT INTO PARKING LOTS OR SOME KIND OF CRAP.
I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET TO MY PROPERTY JUST LIKE THE LADY ON JEFFERSON STREET.
HOW ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET TO OUR PROPERTY? IT BUILDING IS NOT WORTH 2 CENTS IF YOU CAN'T ACCESS IT.
SO EVEN IF I DECIDED TO SELL IT SOMEDAY, HOW ARE YOU GONNA SELL SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME FROM A HELICOPTER AND FLY INTO TO GET TO THE PROPERTY? YOU DO REALIZE THERE'S NO ALLEYS, DON'T YOU? YOU'VE ALL BEEN UP AND DOWN HAMPTON ROAD.
YOU REALIZE THAT NOT ON THE RIGHT SIDE OR THE LEFT SIDE.
SO I JUST WANNA KNOW HOW YOU EXPECT US TO GET TO OUR PROPERTY.
THANK YOU MS. WILLIAMS. NEXT COURT I HAVE IS FROM LOUIS, UH, KAIA.
AND I APOLOGIZE IF I, IF I'M MISPRONOUNCING YOUR NAME, SO I'LL SPELL IT OUT.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE LOCATED YOUR CARD.
HUH? OKAY, NEXT PERSON IS KAREN O'DANIEL.
ALL RIGHT, MS. O, IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME, STATE THE RESIDENCE, YOU HAVE THREE UH, MINUTES.
I LIVE IN PALMER, TEXAS, BUT I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED IN TWO OH SEVENTH NORTH LINDE LYNN, UH, ROAD DESOTO.
UM, I WANT TO ECHO THE SAME COMMENTS THAT MY NEIGHBORS HAVE MADE, WHICH IS, UM, IN ORDER FOR ME TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT I CAN AGREE TO THESE PROPOSED REZONING, I THINK WE NEED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THESE CHANGES WILL AFFECT US.
UH, FOR ME PARTICULARLY, UH, MY PROPERTY, UM, MY PARENTS LIVE IN THIS PROPERTY.
THEY'VE BEEN LIVING IN THIS PROPERTY FOR THE PAST NINE YEARS, AND, UM, THEY WOULD FALL UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION, UH, PROPOSED CHANGE.
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS MEANS.
UM, IT, I HAVE READ, I'VE GONE ONLINE, BUT IT DOES NOT EXPLAIN HOW THIS WOULD AFFECT, UM, THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO I THINK WE NEED CLARITY AS TO HOW THIS WOULD AFFECT US.
UM, IF, I THINK TOO, THE LADY SAID THAT, UM, THE CITY IS NOT INTENDING TO PURCHASE ANYBODY'S PROPERTY.
UM, HOWEVER, SHE DID MENTION THAT IF THERE WERE CHANGES, UM, SUCH AS DEVELOPING, THEN POTENTIALLY THEY COULD THEN THE CITY COULD, UH, TAKE OVER THE, THE PROPERTY.
SO THINGS LIKE THAT ARE NOT EXPLAINED FULLY AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE DECIDED TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE HOUSE, THEN COULD THAT POTENTIALLY IMPACT, UM, ON THE CITY TAKING OVER THOSE PROPERTIES OR NOT.
UM, SO I THINK THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR US TO MAKE, UM, A DECISION.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT COMMON CARD I HAVE IS FOR MR. SERGIO RODRIGUEZ.
MR. RODRIGUEZ, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME, CITY RESIDENCE.
UH, MY RESIDENCE IN WAXAHATCHEE.
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I HAVE, UM, I HAVE OWNERSHIP IN THREE PROPERTIES THAT ARE AFFECTED IN, UM, IN THIS, UH, PROPOSAL.AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, CONTRARY TO THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKEN HERE, I'M TOTALLY FOR THIS.
I THINK, UM, I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS IN THIS DESOTO FOR ABOUT 10, 10 YEARS, NO, 14 YEARS IN MY LOCATION.
BUT BEFORE THAT I WAS AN EMPLOYEE FOR ANOTHER DESOTO OFFICE AND I GOT TO SEE, UM, THE IDEAS AND THE PLANS OF MAKING HAMPTON, YOU KNOW, MORE VI, VIBRANT, MORE ENERGETIC, MORE JUST, JUST MORE LIVE.
AND, UM, THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR YEARS, MAYBE CENTURIES IN, IN THE OAK CLIFF AREA.
I HAD PROPERTY IN DALLAS, IN BISHOP ARTS AREA.
I THINK I SOLD IT FIVE YEARS TOO SOON.
BUT NOW, UM, I SEE THAT IT'S THE TREND, IT'S HAPPENING.
UM, MY WIFE AND I, WE LIKE TO DINE.
SO WHERE DO WE GO TO DINE? WE GO TO BISHOP BART.
WHY? BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH VIBRANT LIFE DOWN HERE.
SO THIS PLANNING AND ZONING, UM, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE THE BEST THING THAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN DESOTO.
UM, I'M MY PROPERTY VALUES, ARE THEY GONNA GO UP? YES.
IS THAT A BAD THING? I DON'T THINK SO.
SO, UM, I THINK, UM, I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK IN MY OPINION.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS FOR MS. MS ADRIANA, UH, QUAVIS.
IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD STATION CITY OF RESIDENCE AND ALSO YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I LIVE AT 1 0 9 WEST LYNETTE DRIVE.
UM, I'VE BEEN IN DESOTO FOR 20 YEARS.
I HAVE TWO PROPERTIES IN DESOTO.
UM, THE ONE THAT I RESIDE IN IS THE ONE THAT I'M COMING FORTH, UM, TO SPEAK ABOUT.
I LIVE RIGHT OFF OF HAMPTON ROAD.
UM, FROM THE COMMENTS THAT WERE SAID, UM, SAYING THAT IF PROPERTY LOSS IS ON THE PROPERTY OF 50%, THEN Y'ALL WILL MAKE THE DETERMINATION OF WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IF OUR HOUSE IS BURNED? ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD.
HOW MANY OF Y'ALL LIVE HERE? Y'ALL WANT THESE CHANGES AND THEY ARE GOOD CHANGES IF IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU.
IF YOU LIVE IN DESOTO AND YOU'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DESOTO WHERE MY OTHER PROPERTY'S AT, THAT'S ALL FINE.
AND WELL, IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT YOU, BUT IF YOU'RE IN THE MIDST OF ALL OF THESE CHANGES, THERE'S GONNA BE BIG CHANGES.
I ALSO WANTED TO GO ON THE RECORD THAT MY HUSBAND BROUGHT, UM, THE SURVEY OR THE, THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO US, HE WALKED IT IN AND HE WAS DENIED TO BE LET.
THEY SAID IT WAS A COPY OF THE LETTER, WHICH IT WAS A COPY BECAUSE THE FIRST ONE WE DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT.
SO WHEN I GOT A, THE LETTER COPIED XEROX COPY, IT WAS THE EXACT SAME COPY.
SO MY VOTE, WHAT I WROTE ON THERE THAT I WAS OPPOSED TO, IT WAS NOT ACCEPTED.
IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE, THERE IS NOTHING FOR 1 0 9 WEST LYNETTE THAT WAS TURNED IN.
I AM MY VOICE TONIGHT SAYING I DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN.
I FEEL THAT Y'ALL ARE GOING AGAINST THE CITY CHARTER, WHICH THAT STATES THAT UM, YOU WILL NOT HARM ANY RESIDENT.
I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE, THE FIRST HOUSE AS A SINGLE MOTHER WITH MY CHILDREN.
MY CHILDREN ARE GROWN AND ARE NOT ONLY ONE CHILD IS STILL WITH ME, BUT I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO DISRUPT EVERYTHING.
MY CHILD CRIED WHEN MY NEIGHBORS CAME TO ME AND TOLD ME WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
MY 10-YEAR-OLD CRIED AND SAID, THIS IS OUR HOUSE.
WHERE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GO? WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO? I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME IN AND MADE THESE UM, PROPOSED CHANGES, YEAH, THEY'RE ALL GOOD CHANGES, BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY DON'T LIVE HERE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT THEM THE WAY THAT IT AFFECTS US.
ALSO, THIS THAT WAS SENT OUT, WE CAN'T REALLY EVEN READ IT.
I'M LIKE WITH THE REST OF MY NEIGHBORS, WE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT.
IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE UNEDUCATED, BUT NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION HAS BEEN GIVEN, NOT EVEN ONLINE WHEN YOU LOOK IT UP, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN GIVEN AMPLE OPPORTUNITY OR INFORMATION TO MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT Y'ALL ARE ASKING.
I THINK THIS IS LIKE A FORMALITY.
Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY MADE Y'ALLS DECISION AND THIS IS JUST TO COVER Y'ALL'S BEHINDS TO SAY WE HAD THE MEETING, THEY ALL CAME, OR THE PEOPLE WHO CARED CAME AND THE OTHER ONES, WELL, THEY JUST DIDN'T CARE ENOUGH TO SHOW UP.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE THING.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON AND HOW THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT US.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY FOR TONIGHT.
PLEASE HOLD YOUR, HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE PLEASE.
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THE NEXT CARD I HAVE IS FOR JORDAN FCH FLOCK.YOU READY? ALRIGHT, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD PLEASE.
STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UM, JORDAN FLOCK 2 0 2 NORTH LINDLAND AVENUE.
UM, OUR, OUR STREET BACKS BACKS UP TO THE HAMPTON ROAD BAPTIST CHURCH.
UH, LEMME JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY ABOUT THAT.
THAT STREET HAS, HAS BECOME ALMOST A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANNA WAIT AT THE LIGHT BETWEEN BELTLINE AND HAMPTON TO TURN RIGHT.
SO THEY GO THROUGH THAT LITTLE BUSINESS DISTRICT WITH THE, UH, RCO SAUSAGE COMPANY AND THEN THEY, THEY HEAD DOWN OUR ROAD.
UM, WE MOVED IN HERE 1999, SO WE'VE BEEN HERE ALMOST 24 YEARS.
RAISED MY KIDS, NOW I'M RAISING MY GRANDKIDS THERE.
AND, UM, MY BACK, THE LIONS CLUB WAS THERE, UH, UNTIL THERE WAS A CHURCH THAT BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY.
WE COMPLAINED BECAUSE WE, THEY WERE HAVING, THE LIONS CLUB WAS RENTING OUT THAT BUILDING FOR PARTIES, BIG PARTIES, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, KIDS COMING FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THEY WOULD END UP HAVING FIGHTS OUT IN THE PARKING LOT.
SHOTS WOULD BE FIRED AND THEN EVERYBODY WOULD SCATTER INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE HAD PEOPLE SITTING AND HIDING BEHIND OUR CARS IN THE, IN OUR FRONT DRIVING PARKING LOT.
I'VE, I'VE HAD TO PUT TWO BIG DOGS IN MY BACKYARD BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE RUNNING THROUGH OUR, OUR YARD.
OKAY, SO, SO WE COMPLAINED SOMEHOW THE LIONS CLUB DECIDED TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY TO A CHURCH.
THINGS QUIETED DOWN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE FELT SAFE.
NOW WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC.
UM, WE HAD A DRIVE-BY SHOOTING FOUR SHOTS THROUGH OUR, THROUGH OUR HOUSE.
IT INJURED MY WIFE ON THE, WE LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WHAT'S PROPOSED FOR I GUESS SOME NEW HOUSING, YOU KNOW, THERE NUMBER ONE, YEAH, YOU, YOU MIGHT, YOU MIGHT CREATE A NEW ROAD.
THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM'S GONNA BE THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAKING FOUR LANES TO TWO LANES.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE AND, UM, I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE, I'M NOT SURE HOW GOOD THAT'S GONNA BE FOR US IF, IF WE DECIDE TO STAY.
UM, WE, WE, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPERTY VALUES.
WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, THE TAXES THEY'VE BEEN GOING UP QUITE A BIT.
UM, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MOVING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY JUST BOUGHT HOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE, ON THE HAMPTON SIDE OF LIN TOLAND HAVE MOVED IN, BOUGHT PROPERTIES THERE.
UM, WE HAVE A GUY THAT'S LIVING IN A HOUSE THERE THAT BASICALLY DOES ALL OF THE TREE AND YARD WORK FOR, FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE.
YOU KNOW, THE JU THE HISPANIC GENTLEMAN THAT CAME UP, THEY MOVED IN AND BASICALLY REDID THEIR WHOLE YARD.
THEY, THEY, THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW US AND THEY INVITED OUR KIDS TO ONE OF THEIR BROTHER SON'S BIRTHDAY PARTIES.
SO ANYWAY, UM, AND SIR, I'M SORRY.
AND YOU STATED, BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU ARE A POST I OPPOSED.
NEXT COMMENT COURT I HAVE IS FOR MS. ANNA LONO.
AND MA'AM IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME, CITY OF RESIDENCE AND YOU GO HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UM, I'M HEARING A LOT OF VOICES, UM, BEING FRUSTRATED AND CONCERNED AND IT'S UM, A BIT OF THE SAME FOR ME.
I JUST LIKE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS.
MY PRIMARY CONCERNS ARE ALSO THE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DECREASE IN LANES ON HAMPTON.
I'M INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT, UM, ARE GONNA BE THE ALTERNATIVES TO HELP WITH THIS CONGESTION BUILDUP.
UM, A LOT, WE'RE ALREADY SEEING A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN OUR AREAS AS WELL.
I LIVE IN, UM, CLOSED END STREET AS WELL.
SO I DID SEE THAT THERE WAS A PROPOSED STREET THAT IS GOING TO BE POSSIBLY WORKED ON THERE, BUT I'M ALSO CONFUSED ON HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK SINCE IT'S ALREADY A DEAD END STREET.
SO I'M NOT SURE HOW WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET OUT FROM THERE.
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IN REGARDS TO VIOLENCE, MORE INCREASED, UH, POPULATION USUALLY RESULTS IN, UH, INCREASED VIOLENCE OR ARE WE GONNA BE SEEING AN INCREASE IN POLICE WORKFORCE? WHAT IS GONNA BE THE PLAN FOR THAT? UM, FOR IF OUR PROPERTIES LEMME LEMME JUST STOP YOU A SEC 'CAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE GIVING YOU YOUR, YOUR FULL ATTENTION.SO YOU STILL HAVE TO MS LEFT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE ARE NOT SPEAKING PLEASE LET'S RESPECT THE PERSON WHO HAS THE FLOOR.
SO PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTARY AT A MINIMUM SO WE CAN HEAR FROM THE PERSON WHO HAS THE FLOOR.
OKAY, MA'AM, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES, PLEASE CONTINUE.
SO, UM, IN REGARDS TO IF OUR PROPERTY IS DAMAGED, AS WAS MENTIONED, IF THERE'S A FIRE, I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT WE CHOSE TO HAVE A FIRE.
IF, IF SOMEONE'S SELLING AND THEN THE REZONING HAPPENS, THEN OKAY, THEN AT LEAST THAT WAS KNOWN THAT THAT WOULD BE AN IMPLICATION OF WHEN YOU'RE SELLING THAT IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE A CHANGE.
BUT IF SOMETHING OUT OF OUR CONTROL WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO REBUILD, THEN I'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO WHAT ADDITIONAL HURDLES WE WOULD HAVE TO SURPASS WHENEVER WE'RE TRYING TO OBTAIN OUR PERMITS FOR REBUILDING AND THINGS AS SUCH AS THAT.
UM, AND THEN JUST CLARIFICATION ON, RIGHT NOW WE'RE VOICING ALL OF OUR CONCERNS.
SO WHEN EXACTLY WOULD WE HEAR THE RESPONSE TO THESE CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS? OKAY.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR, UH, COMMENTS? THAT'S IT.
AND AGAIN, DON'T WANNA PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.
SO I'M ASKING ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE AGENDA ITEM IN FAVOR OF THE AGENDA ITEM OR RIGHT NOW ARE YOU UNDECIDED RIGHT NOW? I'M UNDECIDED.
I'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION FIRST.
NEXT COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS FROM PEDRO.
UH, DEAR JULIAN, SIR, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR, AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE.
YES, UH, MY NAME IS PEDRO DE JULIAN.
I LIVE AT ONE WAY JEFFERSON AVENUE.
I'VE BEEN IN MINNESOTA FOR 20, 24 YEARS AND UH, I BELIEVE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY ENOUGH, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
UH, NEXT COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS FROM, UH, RYAN AMMA AMMO.
IF YOU COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE.
UH, RYAN AMOU, NEW RESIDENT DESOTO.
UM, MY BIGGEST QUESTIONS WERE AS FAR AS PROPERTIES OFF OF HAMPTON ROAD, UH, NOT BEING UP TO ZONING STANDARDS.
WHAT WOULD THE, UH, OUTCOMES BE? YOU KNOW, WOULD THEY BE A GRANDFATHER PLAN OR A NON-CONFORMING CLASSIFICATION, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
UH, MY SECOND QUESTION WAS GONNA BE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE TRZ FUNDING, UM, IF THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR ONLY TO DEVELOPERS IF YOU HAVE, UH, SPECIFIC PLANS THAT YOU WANT TO DO OFF OF HAMPTON ROAD.
AND, UM, THOSE ARE MY TWO BIGGEST THINGS.
JUST MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ZONING STANDARDS.
SOME OF THINGS CHANGE, BUT, UH, I'M ACTUALLY FOR IT.
AND SO AGAIN, YOUR OFFICIAL POSITION IS FOUR.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS FROM UH, BRANDY JONES.
BRANDY JONES, ARE YOU PRESENT? OKAY, I DON'T SEE, UH, MS. JONES PRESENT.
UH, BUT LET THE REC UH, REFLECT, UH, MS. BRANDY JONES SUBMITTED, UH, COMMON CARD FOR THIS AGENDA.
UH, THE NEXT COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS FOR ALVIN WARE.
UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY THE RESIDENCE.
I'VE, UM, BEEN HERE IN BUSINESS SINCE LIKE NINE, SIX.
UH, I ALSO LIVED HERE, I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE NINE, NINE.
MY FAMILY AND I, UM, I'VE BEEN ON THE LENDER LYNN ASPECT OF IT WHEN THEY INITIALLY STARTED DOING ALL THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO I REALIZED HOW THE TRAFFIC GOING TO CHANGE A LOT.
BUT I WAS ON LENDER LYNN FOR 15, 16 YEARS TRYING, WORKING HARD TO GET ON HAMPTON TO BE, UM, VISIBLE TO ALL THE TRAFFIC.
AND THEN I SEE NOW THAT THEY TALKING ABOUT CONDENSING IT, I'M, I'M ON UH, THE SOUTH END OF H HAMPTON WHERE THEY GONNA BE CONDENSING
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IT AND I TRYING TO SEE, I'M TRYING TO GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT ME BECAUSE I KNOW LESS TRAFFIC GOING EVERYWHERE ELSE.WHEN I WAS ON LINDA LYNN, WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE DEVELOPMENT INITIALLY ALL THAT TRAFFIC THAT CAME DOWN, LINDA LYNN, I WAS KIND OF HAPPY BECAUSE PEOPLE GOT TO SEE ME, BUT I KNEW THE RESIDENTS WERE AFFECTED A LOT BY IT BECAUSE I WAS RIGHT THERE, THE WRINKLE SHIP BUILDING.
AND THEN, BUT I WAS, I DON'T, I'M TRYING TO GET A GIST ON JUST HOW I'M, HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE BUSINESSES UP AND DOWN THAT CORRIDOR.
WHEN I LOOK AT, UM, SAY DUNCANVILLE WHERE THEY WIDE SHRUNK IT DOWN TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I'M THINKING.
AND I DIDN'T SEE NO TRAFFIC DOWN THERE AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE HOW IT WOULD AFFECT ME.
RIGHT NOW I'M KIND OF NEUTRAL TILL I GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION 'CAUSE TAXIS JUST GONNA GO UP ANYWAY.
AIN'T NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT THAT ONE.
OKAY, SO RIGHT NOW, UNDECIDED RIGHT NOW I'M UNDECIDED THOUGH.
I RECEIVED SOME MORE COMMENT CARDS.
UH, I WILL STILL CALL THESE OUT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS, THE NEXT FOUR INDIVIDUALS THAT I'M GOING TO CALL, UH, THEIR NAMES DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT JUST WANT THEIR POSITION NOTATED.
FOR THE RECORD, UH, THE FIRST COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS FOR MOHAM, HER NAF, H-A-H-A-N-E-E-F.
UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
IS THAT CORRECT? HE'S, HE LEFT.
THE NEXT COMMENT CARD, UH, THAT I HAVE IS FROM SAEED, UH, SHA ALVI, A LVI, AGAIN, INDIVIDUAL DID NOT WANNA SPEAK, UH, BUT WANTED TO LEAVE A COMMENT CARD, UH, IN FAVOR OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
THE NEXT COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS FOR SHADA PERVEZ, P-A-R-V-Z.
AGAIN, UH, DID NOT WANNA SPEAK, UH, BUT LEFT A COMMON CARD IN FAVOR OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
AND THE LAST OF THE FOUR IS FROM, UH, I, I, I'LL JUST, UH, SPELL IT.
I-S-H-A-Q AHMED AGAIN INDICATED, UH, HE DID NOT WANNA SPEAK, UH, BUT ALSO LEFT A COMMENT CARD IN FAVOR.
THE NEXT COMMENT CARD I HAVE, UH, FOR AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IS FOR MS. CANDACE BOWMAN.
MS. BOWMAN, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD AND YOU'LL HAVE, UH, THREE MINUTES.
IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I LIVE AT 1 0 5 SPINNER CIRCLE IN DESOTO, TEXAS.
AND I'VE LIVED IN MY CHILDHOOD HOME FOR OVER 40 YEARS, AND MY PARENTS BOUGHT THE HOME IN THE EARLY 1970S.
AND MY FATHER IS FORMER FIRE CHIEF OF DESOTA UNTIL YOU PASSED AWAY IN JUNE OF 1994.
AT THE AGE OF 43, WE ARE ALL DESOTO GRADUATES.
SPINNER CIRCLE IS A DEAD END STREET WITH 12 HOUSES, SITS ON ONE SIDE AND SITS ON THE OTHER.
AND MY HOUSE ON THE REDEVELOPMENT MAT WILL BE AR GENERAL.
AND, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT OPPOSED TO THE CHARACTER, CHARACTER CODE.
ALRIGHT, NEXT COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS FORWARD.
MS. HORN, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES? UH, YES.
MY NAME IS EDITH HORN AND I LIVE HERE IN DESOTO.
I LIVED JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK AND, UM, I BOUGHT A HOUSE HERE IN DESOTO IN 2010.
AND AT THAT TIME I WAS A SINGLE PARENT AND I WANTED MY CHILDREN TO LIVE IN A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD AND A NICE QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S VERY QUIET OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, EVERY NOW AND THEN WE GET SOME PEOPLE ZOOMING DOWN THE STREET, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW YOUNG FOLKS DO DRIVING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, MY CHILDREN WERE YOUNG WHEN I, UH, WELL, MY SON, MY SON IS A GRADUATE OF DESOTO.
MY DAUGHTER, SHE GRADUATED FROM DALLAS.
ISDI ACTUALLY AM A TEACHER AND, UH, BOTH MY CHILDREN ARE NOW IN THE MILITARY.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PROUD TO SERVE THIS COUNTRY AND DESOTO IS PART OF THIS COUNTRY.
AND SO MY THING IS, IS THAT I'M, EVEN THOUGH I'M A TEACHER, I'M TOTALLY CONFUSED WITH THE PLANS THAT CAME IN THE MAIL.
IT'S SO LITTLE, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT.
AND EVEN WITH THIS NICE LADY EXPLAINING EVERYTHING, I'M STILL CONFUSED.
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WANT TO KNOW HOW'S GONNA AFFECT MY PROPERTY BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN UPDATING THE PROPERTY BECAUSE WE PLAN ON STAYING THERE.SINCE THEN, I'VE, UM, REMARRIED.
MY HUSBAND AND I ARE BOTH 60 YEARS OLD AND SO WE WANNA STAY IN DESOTO, BUT LIKE THEY'VE BEEN SAYING, THE TAXES ARE HIGH AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS IS GONNA AFFECT ME AND MY FAMILY BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THIS HOUSE IN MY FAMILY.
AND I GOT TWO GRANDCHILDREN TOO.
AND SO I JUST WANNA KNOW HOW THIS IS GONNA AFFECT MY FAMILY.
AND RIGHT NOW, SINCE I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT, I'M OPPOSED.
UH, NEXT COMMENT CARD I HAVE, UH, IS FROM AN INDIVIDUAL WHO DOES, DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
IT'S FROM MR. JUAN, UH, SZ, UH, S-A-E-N-Z.
UH, HE IS IN FAVOR OF THE AGENDA ITEM, BUT DID NOT WANNA SPEAK.
UH, THE NEXT UH, CARD I HAVE IS FOR MS. HAW, UH, UNI.
AND MA'AM, IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
I'M A RESIDENT OF DESOTO, TEXAS.
I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT 14 YEARS, UM, ON HAMPTON SHOCKLEY AVENUES, TWO STREETS FROM THE REC CENTER HERE.
I I THINK HAMPTON IS ALREADY BUSY, SO GOING DOWN TO TWO LANES IS A MAJOR PROBLEM.
UM, HOW WOULD THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE VEHICLES GET BESIDE HAMPTON? 'CAUSE THE BIKE LANE IS NOT GONNA BE BIG ENOUGH WHEN THE FIRE STATION IS ON WINTERGREEN.
AND IF THEY'RE GOING DOWN HAMPTON TOWARDS BELTLINE, THEY DON'T HAVE A WAY TO GET THROUGH WITH TWO LANES.
UM, AFFECTING MY PROPERTY TAXES, THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM.
I HAVE ONE GRADUATE OF DESOTO HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, WE ALL, WE ALSO HAVE PLENTY OF VACANT VEHI BUILDINGS ALREADY, LIKE THE BILLS BUILDING.
THAT WHOLE SHOPPING CENTER TO ME IS KIND OF VACANT OVER THERE WITH DC THREE.
I KNOW THEY DON'T WANNA OVERCROWD THE CHURCH PARKING, BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF AREAS TO BUILD UP.
NORTHSIDE ELEMENTARY IS VACANT.
UM, THE SHOPPING CENTER WITH BIG LOTS, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE LIGHTS IN THE SHOPPING CENTER AT NIGHTTIME AND IT'S PRETTY VACANT OR AREA WHERE NEW DEVELOPMENTS COULD BE ADDED.
SO I JUST THINK MESSING UP HAMPTON ROAD, WHICH IS ALREADY HECTIC, RUSH HOUR, THAT'S MAKING THINGS WORSE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF DESOTO AFFECTING THE PROPERTY TAXES.
THE SHOPPING CENTER WHERE A PIECE OF HUT IS DOWN ON THAT END, IT'S OUR, IT'S VACANT.
IT HAS A COUPLE VACANT BUILDINGS, WINTERGREEN RIGHT HERE BESIDE COMERICA BANK.
THERE'S PLENTY OF VACANT BUILDINGS THERE THAT YOU CAN JUST ADD TO VERSUS DISRUPTING WHAT THE STREET IS CURRENTLY.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.
PROPERTY TAXES WOULD BE A BIG PROBLEM.
UM, YOU HAVE MANY PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD SOMEWHAT SINCE THE PANDEMIC.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DISPLACED FROM THAT, JUST BY TAXES INCREASING THERE, ADDING NEW DUPLEXES AND APARTMENTS.
I THINK THAT'S BRINGING MORE CRIME TO OUR CITY, WHICH I KIND OF BELIEVE THAT HAPPENED MAYBE LIKE FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO WHEN I KNOW SOMETHING HAPPENED WITH HOUSING AND THEY PUSHED PEOPLE OUT TO THE SUBURBS.
SO TO ME, THAT'S ADDING MORE CRIME TO OUR AREA.
OTHER THAN THAT, I AM OPPOSED.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.
OKAY, NEXT COURT I HAVE IS FOR, UM, MS. FELICIA DAVIS.
MS. DAVIS, YOU'LL COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND SEE THE RESIDENCE.
HELLO, MY NAME IS FELICIA DAVIS AND I AM A RESIDENT OF CEDAR HILL, BUT I OWN PROPERTY, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY HERE IN DESOTO.
AND I COME TO YOU TODAY INITIALLY, UH, BECAUSE I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, EDC REGARDING THIS PROJECT.
AND INITIALLY I WAS IN FAVOR OF IT AND I STILL AM WITH EXCEPTIONS.
UH, AND I CAME HERE TONIGHT SPECIFICALLY TO HEAR THE COMMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY IN DESOTO.
AND SO BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD, I WOULD HOPE THAT PLANNING AND ZONING WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND SOME TYPE OF CONDITIONS TO BE ADDED TO THIS, UH, SO THAT IT WOULD BE A WIN-WIN FOR YOUR CITIZENS AS WHAT YOUR RESIDENTIAL CITIZENS AS WELL AS US IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
UH, THE PRIMARY THING THAT I'VE HEARD IS THE SHRINKAGE OF HAMPTON ROAD.
AND I, AND I HAVE TO CONCUR THAT TO REDUCE
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HAMPTON TO TWO FROM FOUR IS JUST A LOSE LOSE.IT WOULD BE A CATASTROPHE, I THINK.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR CONDITIONS YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER, UH, AND EDUCATE THE CONSULTANTS TO LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU CANNOT TAKE A FOUR-LANE HIGHWAY THAT RUNS DOWN THE MIDDLE OF HAMPTON DOWN TO A TWO-LANE HIGHWAY.
AND THAT WILL IMPACT ALL THE BUSINESSES ON HAMPTON.
AND AGAIN, YOU, YOU'RE MAKING FOR A BAD CITY AND UNHAPPY RESIDENTS RAISES CRIME.
SO I WOULD HOPE AS A BUSINESS OWNER, I LIKE BEING HERE.
UH, I'VE BEEN HERE 10 YEARS, I KNOW MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN OFFICE AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE MY BUSINESS HERE.
AND SO HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO GET WITH THE CONSULTANTS AND DO SOME MAJOR CONDITIONS ON THE PLANS.
BUT INITIALLY FOR THE RECORD, UH, I AM NEUTRAL WITH CONDITIONS AND SO I CAN BE TURNED TO FAVORABLE ALL OUT.
ALL RIGHT, FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL COMMENT CARDS.
UH, BOTH OF THESE INDIVIDUAL, UH, INDICATED THEY DO NOT WANT TO SPEAK.
UH, ONE IS FROM MARIA SZ, UH, S-A-E-N-Z.
UH, SHE'S IN FAVOR OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
AND THE OTHER COMMENT CARD I HAVE IS FROM MARK PENSO.
UH, AND HE IS ALSO IN FAVOR OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AS IT RELATES TO AGENDA ITEM E THREE, THE HAMPTON CHARACTER CODE, THOSE ARE ALL THE, UH, COMMENT CARDS THAT I HAVE.
UH, MS. CARROLL, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY OTHERS? NO, SIR.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE, UH, WHO DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD AGAIN? UH, YOU HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AND TO STATE YOUR OPINION, BUT YOU'D LIKE TO BE HEARD.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN ATTENDANCE? I'LL ASK AGAIN.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN ATTENDANCE? YOU HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD THIS EVENING, UH, BUT YOU WOULD LIKE YOUR VOICE TO BE HEARD EITHER IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA.
ITEM, ITEM E THREE, THE HAMPTON CHARACTER CODE.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN ATTENDANCE WHO'D LIKE TO BE HEARD? ALRIGHT, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.
WE WILL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING ONCE AGAIN AT 9:02 PM UH, COMMISSIONERS.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN? MR. AU, GO AHEAD.
UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING MORE OF THE P THE RESIDENTS TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
I DID WANT TO SEEK A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY FROM EITHER MS. RAZZI OR HALF AND ASSOCIATES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS RECURRENT WAS THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION OR THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS SENT TO THEM.
I'M WONDERING IN THE MEETINGS WHERE THEY WERE OFFERED TO COME IN AND SIT DOWN WITH THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, EXPLAINED TO THE RESIDENTS AND THE INFORMATION THAT WAS BEING MAILED TO THEM, WHAT TYPES OF INFORMATION WAS GIVEN TO THEM? UH, WAS THERE AN EXPLANATION OF THE ZONING MAP SO THAT THEY COULD READ IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT? SO WE DO HAVE, UH, THE STANDARD, UM, NOTIF NOTIFICATION INFORMATION THAT WE SEND OUT.
SO THE NOTICES FOR THOSE WHO ARE WITHIN THE 200, UM, FEET OR 400 FEET, IT, IT TELLS YOU THAT, UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE THIS REASONING AND WE TELL YOU WHAT IS BEING REASON TO WHAT, WHAT IS GOING TO BE.
AND WE TELL YOU THE TIME AND THE DATE.
AND, UH, UM, AND FOR THIS SPECIFIC, UH, CASE, WE DID GIVE ALSO THE, UM, WEBSITE INFORMATION SO THAT THEY CAN GO, BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY PUT SO MUCH INFORMATION ON A, ON PAPERS.
SO WE DID GIVE, UH, INFORMATION TO ON THE WEBSITE.
SO WE DID SEND THE INFORMATION WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE HAVE, UH, WHO ARE HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING REASON PROPOSED TO BE REZONED.
WE DID SEND THEM INFORMATION THAT TELLS THEM YOU ARE CURRENTLY ZONED THIS AND YOU'LL BE ZONING ONTO TO THIS.
AND FOR A, FOR TIMEWISE, WE ACTUALLY SENT OUR NOTICES 14 DAYS BEFORE, BUT WE ARE REQUIRED STATE REQUIRES, AND THE, OUR ORDINANCE REQUIRES US TO SEND 10 DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING.
SO THIS ONE ACTUALLY WENT EARLIER
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OR SOONER THAN THE EXPECTED TIME.AND OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS ASK IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTION.
THERE IS, UM, WHERE THEY CAN ALWAYS CALL US OR COME IN TO, TO CHECK WITH CITY AND STAFF ON WHATEVER INFORMATION THAT MAY THEY MAY NEED OR EXPLANATIONS THAT THEY MAY NEED.
AND DURING THAT PARTICULAR TIME, DID YOU RECEIVE ANY PHONE CALLS FROM ANY OF THE RESIDENTS REQUESTING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? DO YOU KNOW? AND I WOULD SAY, UM, MR. TRENT DID A GOOD JOB AND, UH, ONE OTHER, I MEAN, RECEIVING MOST OF THE INFORMATION BECAUSE ACTUALLY TRENT IS NAME THAT HE'S ON OUR NOTICES AND HE GOT A LOT OF PHONE CALLS, A LOT OF, UH, PEOPLE, SOME WHO CAME IN MOSTLY CALLING AND ASKING FOR MORE INFORMATION.
AND I DO BELIEVE HE WAS DOING WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO DO TO PROVIDE WHATEVER IS ASKED THE INFORMATION THAT IS NEEDED AND HE CAN ANSWER FOR HIMSELF IF, UM, YES, UH, COMMISSIONERS, I RE UH, RECEIVED OVER, I COULD SAY OVER HUNDREDS OF PHONE CALLS, VOICEMAILS, EMAILS IN REGARDS TO THE, UH, AFTER CORRIDOR.
SO ALL ANSWERS WERE, UM, QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED AND THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE AND, UM, THE BAD, THE FEEDBACK THAT I RECEIVED FROM THEM WAS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR.
SO MAY MAYBE OPPOSED THEY DIDN'T.
UH, SO THAT'S TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
AND LET ME ASK YOU THIS, WERE YOU, WERE YOU THE PERSON THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAILING OUT ALL OF THE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE RESIDENTS SAID HE DID NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE MAILED OUT.
WERE YOU THE PERSON TO MAIL OUT? YES, I WAS, ME, MYSELF, AND MS. RO, UH, JORDAN WILLIAMS WAS AND, UH, RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
MM-HMM,
SO THAT'S THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO.
AND, UH, SO ONCE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND WE HAVE DONE WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO, SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT FOR FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHETHER THEY ARE RECEIVING IT OR NOT.
BUT THAT'S WHAT IS REQUIRED OF US TO GET THAT INFORMATION FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT ON THE PROPERTY ONE.
UH, YES, AS A, AS A POINT OF ORDER, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERST UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE THIS EVENING.
UM, THERE'S OPTIONS TO MOVE THIS ITEM FORWARD WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION OR TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHOUT OUR, WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION POSITIVELY OR A NEGATIVELY.
AND THEN IT'S, THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES IT FROM THERE, IS THAT CORRECT? WE, WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS.
ONE, UH, THIS COMMISSION BY, BY MAJORITY VOTE, COULD VOTE TO APPROVE IT, UH, AS IS PRESENTED, COULD VOTE, UH, A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL AS PRESENTED, OR IF THERE COULD BE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.
AND CERTAINLY WE WANT TO TURN, UH, TO MR. SMITH TO MAKE SURE THOSE CONDITIONS WERE APPROPRIATE.
SO THOSE, THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS.
APPROVE IT AS IS, DENY IT AS IS OR APPROVE IT WITH CERTAIN CONDITIONS.
AND CERTAINLY WE WOULD WANT TO CONSULT MR. SMITH TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.
AND CAN WE SAY WHAT HAPPENS BEYOND US TONIGHT BASED ON THOSE THREE OPTIONS? AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. BREWER.
NO, YOU'RE MAKING YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
AND IT GOES TO COUNSEL IF YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO DENY, AND THAT DOES TRIGGER THE REQUIREMENT, UH, FOR SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY TO FILE AN APPEAL, UH, IN, IN ORDER FOR IT TO PROCEED FORWARD, ASSUMING AN APPEAL WOULD BE A, UH, WOULD BE, UH, INITIATED BY THE CITY, THEN WHEN THEY WENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE TO HAVE A, A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF THE FULL COUNCIL IF YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS DENIED.
OTHER THAN THAT, IT WOULD GO TO THE MAJORITY AT THAT MEETING IF IT WAS APPROVED.
SO I'LL ASK A QUESTION ALONG THAT LINE.
SO IF WE VOTE THIS EVENING AND IT'S TWO TO THREE OR FOUR TO ONE, THIS FOUR GET IT IN FAVOR, DO WE JUST NEED JUST FOUR MR. SMITH? YES.
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THE COMMISSION HAS TO VOTE, RIGHT? SOMEONE MAKES A MOTION EITHER TO, UM, APPROVE THE REZONING OR, OR RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REZONING OR RECOMMEND DENIAL.UM, SINCE THERE ARE FIVE OF YOU, UM, ANY, FOR ANY RECOMMENDATION TO GO TO COUNCIL, THE CITY ORDINANCE STATES THAT THERE MUST BE FOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTES FOR WHATEVER MOTION.
UM, SINCE THERE'S ONLY FIVE OF YOU.
UM, ONLY ONE CAN BE DIFFERENT.
UH, IF, IF YOU DON'T GET THE FOUR REQUIRED VOTES, THEN YOU CAN EITHER SOMEONE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND HAVE A RE-VOTE OR EVENTUALLY, UH, IF, IF NO FOUR VOTES ARE ABLE TO GET FOR, FOR ONE MOTION, THEN EVENTUALLY IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GO TO COUNSEL, UH, WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION, JUST BECAUSE THE COMMISSION WAS UNABLE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION DUE TO, UM, THE RECUSAL OF MS. CAESAR IN THE ABSENCE OF MR. BELL.
THIS, THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE.
UM, IN THE 18 MONTHS I'VE BEEN ON THE PLAN COMMISSION.
THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF TWO CASES THAT, YOU KNOW, IS VERY DIFFICULT, BUT IT'S VERY HELPFUL WHEN WE GET CITIZENS COMING IN AND PROVIDING INPUT, UM, CONTRADICTORY TO WHAT WE HEARD.
WE HAVE NOT MADE UP OUR MINDS.
WE DO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION.
UM, I THINK I NEED SOME CLARIFICATIONS FROM STAFF.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE HEARD A LOT WAS MENTIONED THE HAMPTON ROAD RIGHT ROAD PROJECT.
OUR ACTION TONIGHT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING RELATED TO THE HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR, CORRECT.
ROADWAY PROJECT, NOT CORRIDOR.
SO WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING TO MOVE FORWARD THE ZONING CASES ONLY? YES.
JUST THE REZONING OF PROPERTIES.
YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? OKAY.
AND I GUESS FROM A PERSONAL AND A PROFESSIONAL PERSPECTIVE, UM, I LOVE DESOTO.
I I I DO KNOW THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR A NUMBER OF THINGS.
WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL PARKS, WE HAVE A SAFE CITY.
I HAVE TWO SONS AND I FEEL SAFE LIVING HERE.
WE HAVE GREAT STREETS AND ROADWAYS, UM, THAT MUST BE MAINTAINED.
THE SOURCES OF REVENUE TO MAINTAIN THOSE THINGS COME FROM EITHER PROPERTY TAXES OR SALES TAXES.
AND IF WE DON'T GET ENOUGH BUSINESSES IN DESOTO TO HELP PAY FOR SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED, YES, PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING TO GO UP EITHER WAY, IT MAY GO UP BECAUSE THE SURROUNDING AREA LIKE BISHOP OR BISHOP ARTS DISTRICT WAS MENTIONED THAT IT MAY GO UP BECAUSE OF THAT, BUT IT ALSO MAY GO UP BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER TAXES TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND PARKS AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S ONE THING THAT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION.
BUT I, I THINK IF WE DO THIS STRATEGICALLY IN A MANNER WHERE WE START TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE TO HELP ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, IT, WE CAN DO IT IN A SMART WAY.
ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU MS. MOONI, IF YOU DON'T MIND, AS FAR AS THE CONDITIONS.
I KNOW ONE CONCERN, ONE THING THAT I HEARD YOU SAY CONSTANTLY WAS THAT THERE IS NO IMMINENT DOMAIN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ACTION TONIGHT AND PROPERTIES WE'RE NOT TAKING PROPERTIES.
YOU SAID THAT PROBABLY SEVEN TIMES A HUNDRED TIMES.
AND IF YOU WANNA SAY IT AGAIN, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT,
BUT WITH THAT, UM, YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT SHOULD A PROPERTY BE IMPACTED OR DAMAGED MORE THAN 50%, THAT IT COULD BE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE NEW ZONING WHEN THEY HAVE TO REDEVELOP IT? YES.
IF THEY HAVE TO REDEVELOP IT, REBUILD IT, YES.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA USE REDEVELOP.
IF THEY WANT TO REBUILD THEIR HOME REBUILD, YES.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONFORM TO TO THE NEW, TO THE NEW ZONING THAT'S IN PLACE, YES.
SO I WOULD BE LEANING TOWARDS SUPPORTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IF, AND I'M LOOKING AT MR. SMITH, ARE WE ABLE TO PUT A CONDITION TO REMOVE THAT FROM THE ZONING? I WOULDN'T SAY TO REMOVE IT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE IT.
I WAS JUST MENTIONING ACCORDING TO THE, OR THE ZONING, YES.
ZONING ORDINANCE IN GENERAL, NOT, NOT SPECIFIC TO THIS ONE,
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BUT IN GENERAL, THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT.IT'S THE ZONING ORDINANCE ALREADY HAS A NON-CONFORMING USE SECTION.
IT LAYS OUT CERTAIN CRITERIA OF WHEN SOMETHING THAT'S NON-CONFORMING, WHICH WOULD BE PROBABLY MANY OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE, WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY.
UM, WHEN, HOW THEY BECOME, WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE LAND OR IF THEY'RE WANTING TO MODIFY THE LAND, WHETHER THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT SINCE THEY'RE A NON-CONFORMING USE.
UM, WITH CASUALTY LOSS, I BELIEVE IT'S IF, UM, IF IT'S COMPLETELY PARTIAL, SO NOT A FULL, IF I THINK 60% OF THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, AS DETERMINED BY DA, UM, IF, IF IT DECREASES 60%, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD TRIGGER WHETHER THEY HAVE TO COMPLETELY CONFORM OR IF THEY CAN GO BACK TO THE WAY THEY WERE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A FULL LOSS AND VALUE IS DESTROYED MORE THAN 60%, THEN YES, THEY'LL HAVE TO CONFORM TO THE NEW, BUT NOT EVERY CASUALTY IS GONNA TRIGGER, UM, THEM TO HAVE TO CONFORM TO THIS.
AND, BUT THAT'S ALL IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE AS IT IS NOW.
SO THAT WOULD BE A WHOLE NEW TEXT AMENDMENT.
IT'S NOT PART OF THE CHARACTER CODE, IT'S JUST PART OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND THERE'S A WHOLE SECTION ON NON NONCONFORMING USES AND, AND WHAT HAPPENS AND WHAT TRIGGERS WHETHER THEY CAN ADD ON WHAT HAPPENS IF THE USE IS STOPPED, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, 'CAUSE I THINK THEY, PEOPLE CAN STILL MODIFY THEIR HOMES OR, AND OBVIOUSLY REPAIR THINGS, RESTORE THINGS.
THERE'S CERTAIN CONDITIONS IN THERE, UH, THAT'S GONNA TRIGGER WHETHER SOMETHING NON-CONFORMING CAN STAY NON-CONFORMING.
SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF CRITERIA IN THAT ZONING ORDINANCE.
IT'S NOT JUST A, IF ANYTHING CHANGES, YOU MUST CONFORM THERE.
THERE'S OTHER CRITERIA IN THERE.
CHAIR AND COMMISSION, UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, UH, THE SECTION OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS REFERENCING IS SECTION SEVEN OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
I DID WANT TO SPECIFICALLY READ, UH, SECTION 7.6, RESTORATION OF NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE LETTER A.
IF A STRUCTURE OCCUPIED BY NON-CONFORMING USE IS DESTROYED BY FIRE, THE ELEMENTS OR OTHER CAUSE IT MAY NOT BE REBUILT EXCEPT TO CONFORM TO THE PROVISIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE.
IN THE CASE OF PARTIAL DESTRUCTION OF A NON-CONFORMING USE STRUCTURE, NOT EXCEEDING 60% OF ITS TOTAL APP PRAISE VALUE AS DETERMINED BY THE DALLAS COUNTY CENTRAL APPRAISER DISTRICT RECONSTRUCTION WILL BE PERMITTED, BUT THE EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE OR FUNCTION OF THE NONCONFORMING USE CANNOT BE EXPANDED.
AGAIN, WE HAVE A, AN ESTABLISHED SECTION SEVEN OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT COMPLIES WITH STATE STATUTE, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AS WELL AS OUR OWN.
AND DID THE LANGUAGE, I'M SORRY, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
DID IT SAY IT COULD BE REBUILT BUT NOT EXCEED THE ORIGINAL SQUARE FOOTAGE? IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? IN THE CASE OF PARTIAL DESTRUCTION OF A NON-CONFORMING USE STRUCTURE, NOT EXCEEDING 60% OF ITS TOTAL APPRAISED VALUES AS DETERMINED BY THE DALLAS COUNTY CENTRAL APPRAISER DISTRICT RECONSTRUCTION WILL BE PERMITTED.
BUT THE EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE OR FUNCTION OF THE NON-CONFORMING USE CANNOT BE EXPANDED.
AND AGAIN, THAT WAS, IF IT DOES NOT EXCEED 60% YES.
WHAT HAPPENS IF IT DOES EXCEED 60% YOU HAVE TO CONFORM WITH TO THE REGULATIONS TO THAT ARE IN PLACE AT THAT POINT.
AND IN THIS CODE IS OKAY, THAT'S A STATE CODE, STATE AND LOCAL, STATE AND LOCAL TAKES A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE FROM A LOCAL PERSPECTIVE, THERE IS NO ABILITY TO WAIVE THAT FROM ON COUNCIL OR, YOU KNOW, PNZ, THE REGULATIONS ARE WRITTEN AND THEY ARE REGULATIONS.
YOU'D HAVE TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDERS, GOT TO AMEND, CHANGE ANY ANYTHING.
AND FURTHER JUST KIND OF JUST PREEMPTIVE ANSWER, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE WITH A CONDITION THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE BECAUSE THIS ISN'T A TEXT CHANGE THAT WE'RE DOING.
WE'RE ACTUALLY REZONING SOMETHING.
SO YEAH, YOU COULDN'T ACT I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I'M JUST, I WAS JUST A CASE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE.
SHOULD THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER TODAY.
I THINK I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, MR. BREWER, MR. MS. MAZI ON THE CONCERN ABOUT SELLING THE PROPERTY, EVEN IF THERE'S AN A SALE OF THAT PROPERTY, WOULD THEY HAVE TO CONFORM TO THE NEW ZONING? NO, UNLESS THEY'RE CHANGING.
UNLESS THEY'RE CHA MAKING CHANGES.
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ON THE CHANGES TOO.YES, MR. CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THIS WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
UH, DURING THE, I BELIEVE DURING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION IS THAT THE GROWTH OF DESOTO IS HAPPENING SO THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DEFICIT OF HOUSING.
SO THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT DENSITY, BUT THE DENSITY IS ACTUALLY HELPING DESOTO TO HAVE ENOUGH HOUSING AS WE ARE GROWING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT POINT, UH, UH, TO YOU ALL, MR. JOE.
I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A A SIMILAR POINT.
MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, UM, AND, AND TO THOSE THAT ARE, ARE HERE WITH US TONIGHT, UM, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT AT THE CITY OF DESOTO FOR 23 YEARS.
I'M HERE SITTING HERE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE.
UM, AND I, I STRUGGLE WITH MY PERSONAL OPINION BEING IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT WHILE APPRECIATING AND UNDERSTANDING HOW CONFUSING IT CAN BE WHEN YOU'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT LECTERN.
AND SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I, MY, MY PREFERENCE IS TO MOVE IT FORWARD WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION AND LET THE CITY COUNCIL WHO WAS ELECTED BY THE CITIZENS OF DESOTO TO, TO UM, HANDLE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MS. BROOKS? GO AHEAD.
I JUST THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST OF NOT KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
I THINK AS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS, WE SHOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF IF WE FAVOR THIS OR IF WE'RE OPPOSED TO IT AND MOVE IT FORWARD FOR, YOU KNOW, LET THE PROCESS HAPPEN.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.
HEARING IS SEEING NONE, UH, MS. ZI AND ALSO A CONSULTANT, UH, WHOEVER WANTS TO ADDRESS THIS, THERE WAS A QUESTION, UH, THAT I HEARD DURING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, ABOUT NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THESE FIVE NEW ZONING DISTRICTS REALLY REPRESENT.
I DON'T KNOW WHO WANTS TO HANDLE THAT QUESTION.
YOU CAN COME FORWARD AND IF YOU'LL JUST KIND OF EXPLAIN, UH, JUST BRIEFLY THAT I, YOU KNOW, AS BEST YOU CAN, UH, URBAN CENTER, URBAN GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION, WHAT IT, IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND, AND WHY ARE WE SEEKING, UH, THAT TYPE OF ZONING? SO, AND, UH, IF YOU'LL CUT YOUR MIC ON PLEASE, SIR.
SO THE CHARACTER CODE DID NOT ENVISION THAT THIS ENTIRE, UH, CORRIDOR WOULD BE ONE UBIQUITOUS PLACE ALL THE SAME, RIGHT? IT, UH, IS A RESULT OF MANY DISCUSSIONS OVER MANY, MANY MONTHS AND, AND YEARS GOING BACK, UM, TO EARLY ON ANALYSIS THAT THAT, UM, HAS, SHOULD BEEN SHARED WITH YOU.
IT WAS, UM, MAPPED, MAPPED OVER AGAIN, CHANGED, DISCUSSED, AND LANDED ON THESE FIVE UNIQUE CHARACTER DISTRICTS.
UM, EACH OF WHICH HAS DIFFERENT VISION FOR LAND USES FOR BUILT FORM FOR SCALE, UH, FOR THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE STREET, AND THE EXTENT THAT IT CREATES A MORE, UH, WALKABLE EDGE OR A MORE LANDSCAPED EDGE, DIFFERENT ELEMENTS LIKE THAT.
UM, JUST TO TRY TO DO, DO THAT BRIEFLY.
THE URBAN CENTER, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE IT, CAN I BRING THE MAP UP PLEASE? OKAY.
THE URBAN CENTER IS THE AREA IN PURPLE.
YOU SEE THAT HAPPENS AT A FEW VERY DISTINCT LOCATIONS, UH, AROUND THOSE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS.
AND THEN AROUND THE MEDICAL FACILITY THERE, SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN PLEASANT ROAD AND BELTLINE ROAD.
UH, THOSE NODES ARE MEANT TO BE REALLY THE MOST WALKABLE, MOST VIBRANT, MOST, UM, CONCENTRATED, UH, FABRIC OF MIXED USES.
THAT'S WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE ALLOWED TO BE THE TALLEST POTENTIALLY UP TO FIVE STORIES.
IF THE MARKET, YOU KNOW, IS ABLE TO BUILD, UH, THAT LEVEL OF, OF BUILDING, UM, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE EDGES OF PROPERTIES, MEANING THAT THE WAY THAT THEY'RE DESIGNED TO CREATE A WALKABLE STREET OR A WALKABLE EDGE IS COMFORTABLE FOR A PEDESTRIAN, UH, ARE THE HIGHEST IN THAT AREA.
AGAIN, THINKING, THINKING OF YOUR MOST WALKABLE DOWNTOWN NODE WITHIN HERE IS THOSE AREAS IN PURPLE.
THE NEXT ONE, UH, ANOTHER REASON THAT THOSE AREAS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT 'CAUSE THOSE WERE LARGER SITES COLLECTED
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ON THOSE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS WHERE FOR THE MOST PART, UH, I THINK IT WAS ANTICIPATED THAT THOSE WERE AREAS THAT COULD UNDERGO A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IF A MAJOR REDEVELOPMENT WAS TO HAPPEN.UH, THE NEXT ONE IS URBAN GENERAL.
SO YOU SEE THAT HERE IN THIS SORT OF GRAYISH COLOR THAT'S VERY SIMILAR IN TERMS OF THE LAND USE VISION MIX OF USES A VIBRANT, WALKABLE COMMUNITY.
THE ALLOWANCE FOR HEIGHT, THERE IS ONLY UP TO THREE STORIES, SO IT'S A DROPDOWN IN SCALE.
THE INTENT THERE WAS THAT THOSE ARE AREAS THAT, UH, AND PROPERTIES THAT ARE, ARE, UH, OPERATING RIGHT NOW THAT ARE ANTICIPATED TO JUST CHANGE INCREMENTALLY OVER TIME.
SOME OF THOSE MAY, MAY NOT CHANGE IN ANY OF OUR LIFETIMES.
THAT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE, UM, WITH PROPERTIES BOTH IN THE URBAN GENERAL, BUT THROUGHOUT THIS AREA.
UH, THESE ARE LONG, LONG TERM, UH, VISION AND REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE.
THE NEXT IS NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
SO YOU SEE THAT AT A FEW PLACES AT THE PERIPHERY THERE IN THAT SORT OF TEALISH BLUISH COLOR, UH, THAT IS ESSENTIALLY MEANT TO RESULT IN KIND OF A MORE CONVENTIONAL SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
SO THINK OF A WALGREENS, FOR EXAMPLE, PARKING OUT FRONT, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'D EVEN SEE ON HAMPTON ROAD, BUT WITH AN BUT WITH AN ENHANCED LANDSCAPE EDGE ALONG THOSE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS OR SIDEWALKS THAT, UH, TRAVEL ALONG.
UH, NEXT TO THE PROPERTY ALONG THE STREET, THIS GOLD COLOR IS URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ESSENTIALLY PUSHING FOR, UH, SETTING UP A REGULATORY CONSTRUCT TO SUPPORT, UH, ESSENTIALLY AN URBAN APARTMENT DISTRICT.
SO ALLOWING APARTMENT BUILDINGS UP TO FOUR STORIES HIGH, UM, BUT ALLOWING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SINGLE UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHERE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THERE ARE SINGLE UNIT HOUSES THERE AND WHETHER THAT USE WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE FUTURE, CERTAINLY THAT USE WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE FUTURE IN THAT AREA IN GOLD.
UH, FINALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.
SO THAT'S THE AREA IN RED, UM, THAT IS MEANT TO ALLOW FOR LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES LIKE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, DUPLEXES, SMALL SETS OF TOWN HOMES.
AND THE INTENTION OF THAT DISTRICT, UH, AS BESTER DESCRIBED, WAS TO PROVIDE A TRANSITION FROM THOSE MORE, UH, INTENSE OR HIGHER DENSITY AREAS TO TRANSITION TOWARDS THE MORE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT ARE BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS REZONING, UH, IN THE PERIPHERY, UH, ADJACENCY TO, TO THE AREA OF FOCUS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CONSULTANT? ALRIGHT, UH, MS. BUSTER, I'LL ECHO WHAT MS. BROOKS SAID YOU HAVE REPEATEDLY, I LOST COUNT REPEATEDLY SAID THAT THIS IS NOT GOING INVOLVE THE TAKING OF ANYONE'S PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, I DO KNOW THERE THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IF I WANNA MODIFY MY PROPERTY, UH, WHAT RESTRICTIONS WOULD THERE BE? SO MR. SMITH, I'M GONNA ASK YOU IF THERE IS A MOTION, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WILL BE OR NOT, BUT IF THERE'S A MOTION IN FAVOR OF THIS AGENDA ITEM, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE, UH, TO SET A CONDITION, UH, THAT ANY CURRENT HOME CURRENT OWNER, UH, BE GRANDFATHERED INTO WHATEVER THE CURRENT ZONING IS NOW? SO IF, IF YOU'RE CURRENTLY IN SF 20, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS YOU'RE THE CURRENT OWNER, THEN NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE, YOU'RE BASICALLY UNDER THE SF 20 RULES AND REGULATIONS.
IS THAT, IS THAT APPROPRIATE? AM I OFF BASE? NO, THE, SINCE THIS WE'RE ACTUALLY REZONING THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE CHANGING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND WE, THE TEXT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
UM, BUT REGARDLESS IF SOMEONE'S ZONED SF 20 RIGHT NOW, AND THIS PASSES, THERE'S STILL GONNA BE SF 20.
THERE'S JUST GONNA BE A NON-CONFORMING USE AND THEN THAT NON-CONFORMING USE PROVISION OF, I BELIEVE SECTION SEVEN OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS GONNA GOVERN THAT.
UM, BUT SO NO, YOU, YOU CAN'T REALLY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UM, WITH CONDITIONS THAT THINGS BE GRANDFATHERED IN 'CAUSE THAT'S JUST KIND OF ALREADY IN PLACE ALREADY AND IT'S, THEY'RE NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE THEIR CURRENT ZONING.
I MEAN THEIR, THEIR CURRENT USE, UM, IF THIS PASSES.
OKAY, SO I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR AND, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CLARIFICATION.
SO IF I'M IN THIS AREA AND I OWN A PROPERTY THAT'S SF 20 AND LET'S JUST SAY THIS PASSES AND FIVE YEARS FROM NOW I WANT TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATION OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED UNDER SF 20, I'M NOT GOING, AM I GONNA HAVE ANY ISSUES FROM THE CITY SAYING YOU CAN'T DO THAT? IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CHANGE WOULD BE.
THOSE NON-CONFORMING USE PROVISIONS ARE GONNA KICK IN AND THOSE ARE EXTENSIVE.
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IS A BIGGER ANSWER BECAUSE DEPENDING ON WHAT SCENARIO YOU'RE ACTUALLY DISCUSSING, UM, BUT EITHER WAY THESE ARE GONNA BE LEGAL, LIKE NON-CONFORMING USES IF THIS PASSES, SO YOU'RE GONNA BE SF 20 OR SFA PROBABLY IS WHAT MOST OF THESE ARE UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS WHERE, WHERE THAT NON-CONFORMING USE PROVISION IS GONNA KICK IN AND YOU HAVE TO ADJUST PER THE NEW ZONING.BUT IF NOTHING CHANGES AT THE PROPERTY, YOU DON'T MOVE, YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO HAVE A MAJOR ADD-ON OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
NOTHING IS GONNA CHANGE, BUT I STILL WOULD REFER BACK TO THE ACTUAL STATUTES OF THAT NON-CONFORMING USE PROVISION.
IT'S A, IT'S A WHOLE SECTION IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
MS. BUR, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE MORE COMMENT.
WHAT I HAVEN'T HEARD IS, UH, AGAIN, IT'S A REALITY IN CHAPTER SEVEN THAT DEALS WITH ABANDONMENT.
IF A USE BECOMES ABANDONED AND NOT CONTINUED FOR THAT SIX MONTHS TIME PERIOD, THAT IS THE CALENDAR OR TIME PERIOD THAT DICTATES THAT YOU LOSE NON-CONFORMING STATUS.
WHAT THE CITIES USUALLY DO TO DETERMINE, UH, WE, WE CHECK WATER, WATER USAGE.
WE SAID IF YOU'RE NOT, UH, HAVING YOUR WATER COUNT OR USING WATER, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT OCCUPYING THAT FACILITY WITH THAT USE.
SO JUST, I HAVEN'T HEARD THE DISCUSSION ANYTHING ABOUT SIX MONTHS, BUT THAT'S A PART OF THAT SECTION.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, TO READ CHAPTER SEVEN OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT IT HAS A SIX MONTHS ABANDONMENT TIME PERIOD ESTABLISHED THAT COMPLIES WITH, UH, STATE STATUTE AND MR. BREWER.
UH, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY HERE, CAN YOU GIVE US LIKE A COUPLE OF MORE EXAMPLES OF ABANDONMENT WITHIN A SIX MONTH PERIOD THAT THE CITY MIGHT LOOK AT? I DON'T WANT YOU, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO GIMME A LAUNDRY LIST, BUT JUST FOR ANYONE WHO BASICALLY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND YOU JUST GAVE AN EXAMPLE ABOUT WATER USAGE, IS THERE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OR TWO THAT YOU CAN GIVE US SO EVERYBODY WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITHIN A SIX MONTH PERIOD? I CAN ONLY SAY THAT'S THE ONE THAT I HAVE USED AS THE DIRECTOR WITH UH, SOME OTHER CITIES.
UH, I GUESS EVERYTHING IS USABLE TO A CHALLENGE BY LAW.
ALRIGHT COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, I'M NOT HEARING OR SEEING ANY.
SO AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IT IS 9 31 COMMISSIONERS.
I THINK WE'VE HAD ALL THE COMMENTARY, ALL THE QUESTIONS, ANSWERS THAT WE WANTED FOR THIS EVENING.
UH, IS THERE A MOTION? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS.
YES, MS. BROOKS, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
I MOVE THAT WE SOMEBODY'S MIC OFF.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVE THIS ZONING CHANGE AS IT RELATES TO ITEM E THREE, UH, COMMISSION.
BROOKS, YOU MADE A MOTION, UH, THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
OKAY, SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY.
SECOND, IS THERE ANY UNREADINESS? OKAY, HEARING IT SAID NONE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY NAY.
OKAY, IT IS THREE TO TWO AS THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS POINTED OUT IT TAKES A MAJORITY OF FOUR.
IS THERE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER? UH, YES.
MR. SMITH, IS THERE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER? ALRIGHT, WITHOUT THERE BEING A MOTION TO, UH, RECONSIDER, UH, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT, UH, THAT THE VOTE WAS THREE TO TWO.
HOWEVER, IN THE ABSENCE OF MAJORITY OF FOUR, UH, WE WILL NOT SEND A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
UH, SO THIS NOW LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS NOW WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE APRIL 2ND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
UH, AND SO THOSE INTERESTED PARTIES, UH, YOU SHOULD ATTEND THAT MEETING, UH, BECAUSE THIS NOW, UH, WILL GO TO THEM.
ALRIGHT, UH, STAFF, UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS AGENDA? ITEM? OKAY, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.
WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO CITIZEN APPEARANCES.
I HAVE ONE COMMON CARD AND MS. CAPOS, LUIS CAPOS.
YOU MAY HAVE JUST WANTED TO BE HEARD ON E THREE AND NOT CITIZEN APPEARANCES, BUT IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BE HEARD ON CITIZEN APPEARANCES? NAS THE OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON A ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA.
NAS THE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FOR CITIZEN APPEARANCES? AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF WE CAN PLEASE MAINTAIN ORDER.
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HEARING AND SEEING NONE, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THERE IS NO ONE HERE FOR CITIZEN APPEARANCES.LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAT IS THE LAST AGENDA ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UH, STAFF.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN? OKAY, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING? SO MOVED.