Feb 13, 2024 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting

COMMISSIONER.

JUST WANTED TO ADD, UH, THIS APPLICANT HAD BEEN IN DISCUSSION PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

HE HAS PARTICIPATED IN A DRC MEETING.

HE WAS FOLLOWING THE PROCEDURE THAT HE HAD BEEN APPROVED ON HIS PREVIOUS PD, BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND STAFF POSITION IS FOLLOWING THE NEW ADOPTED COMP PLAN.

HATE TO GIVE YOU ONE LIKE THIS, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE FIRST ONES.

UH, AGAIN, THEY'RE FOLLOWING WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, BUT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE NEW COMP PLAN.

THANK YOU MS. BREWER AT THIS TIME, UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MS. BROOKS? MS. ZI, GOOD EVENING ON THE PD ONE 20.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS IN THAT, UH, YOU MAY WANNA GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE IT WAS.

NO.

IS THIS THE ONLY PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN THAT PD? YES.

APPROVED WITH PD ONE 20 IN 2014.

AND WE DIDN'T GET ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS? NO.

AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED ARE LARGER WAREHOUSES.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

YES, THEY, THEY ARE LARGER BUILDINGS THAN WHAT WAS, UH, WHAT WAS

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SO IT'S, IT'S, I MEAN, DOES THAT EQUATE TO ADDITIONAL TRUCK TRAFFIC OR WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY? I I, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT TRAFFIC, BUT IN TERMS OF, UM, THE, THE USE, THE USE REMAINS THE SAME.

HOWEVER, IF THEY ARE MAKING ANY CHANGES AND THE PD IS STIPULATING THAT, UH, IT HAS TO BE DEVELOPED A CERTAIN WAY.

AND IN THIS CASE, IN 2014, THEY HAD A, A SITE PLAN THAT THEY SUBMITTED THAT THE PD WAS SAYING IT HAS TO BE LIKE THIS ONE THAT IS SHOWN ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

THAT'S THE LAYOUT THAT WAS APPROVED, THAT THE PD WAS SAYING IT HAS TO BE FOLLOWED, AND NOW THEY ARE CHANGING TO THIS LAYOUT.

YEAH.

SO IT'S JUST, IS IT JUST THE LAYOUT OR IS IT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDINGS? THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS WHAT THE, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM 2014? WHAT WAS APPROVED VERSUS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED? LET ME GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.

THE OLD, UM, THE, UH, WHAT WAS APPROVED, I, IT'S ABOUT 82 SQUARE FEET DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THE OLD ONE WAS 30,600 SQUARE FEET.

AND THE PROPOSED ONE IN TOTAL, NOT JUST ONE BUILDING, AND THE PROPOSED IS, UH, 30,682 SQUARE FEET.

SO A DIFFERENCE OF 82 SQUARE FEET.

SO VERY MINIMUM, YES.

AND LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, THE REASON WHY IT'S COMING BEFORE YOU IS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALTERING WHAT WAS APPROVED.

SO WHENEVER THEY'RE DOING THAT, THEY HAVE TO COME AND DO A PD AMENDMENT.

SO IF THEY WERE GOING TO SAY, OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST DEVELOP AS WAS SO APPROVED IN TWO, 2014, YOU WOULD NOT SEE THIS COMING BEFORE YOU.

BUT WHENEVER THEY ARE MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO WHAT WAS STIPULATED TO BE A CERTAIN WAY AND THEY WANT TO GO ANOTHER WAY WHERE IT HAS TO COME BEFORE YOU, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL BE A QUESTION FOR YOU OR THE APPLICANT.

UM, WAS, IS THE CHANGE BECAUSE OF SOME EXCESS ISSUES OR DID THE APPLICANT GIVE US ANY IDEA WHY THE LAYOUT CHANGED? BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S VERY MINIMAL SQUARE FOOTAGE.

IT'S NOT THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.

WE WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND YOU TALK TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT THAT.

BUT THEIR ACCESS DRIVES IN AND OUT ARE REMAINING EXACTLY THE SAME.

CAN YOU TAKE YOUR POINTER AND SHOW HER THE ACCESS? YEAH, ACCESS IS GONNA BE FROM HERE ON HAMPTON GOING DOWN HERE.

LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE DEMOLISHING A PORTION OF THIS BUILDING, RIGHT? THE EXISTING BUILDING RIGHT HERE SO THAT THEY CAN GAIN ACCESS FROM HAMPTON GOING SOUTH RIGHT HERE.

AND THEN FROM PARKER VIEW, THEY'RE GOING UP HERE AND INTO THE PROPERTY, BUT THE TWO ACCESS THAT ARE CONNECTING ONTO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ARE STAYING EXACTLY THE SAME.

UM, A QUESTION IS THE PD ONE 20 THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW IN CONFLICT WITH THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? YE YES.

IT'LL BE, IT IS ACTUALLY EVEN, UH, IT'S, IT'S WHEN IT WAS APPROVED, IT WAS ALSO IN CONFLICT WITH 2015, THE ONE THAT WAS JUST UPDATED.

SO IT'S IN CONFLICT? YES, IT IS.

BUT THE PD WAS DONE IN 2014.

BEST WILL YOU USE YOUR POINTER AND SHOW THE AREA THAT'S IN PINK? OKAY.

SO THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE, THIS CORNER RIGHT HERE.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT CORNER IS DESTINATION MIXED USE.

MR. MR. RENO? UH, YES, MR. MOON, GOOD EVENING.

I WAS JUST WONDERING, DO WE KNOW IF THERE WAS A BUSINESS REASON FOR THE LENGTH OF TIME BETWEEN PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO OF THE PROPERTY? IT COULD BE ECONOMICS.

I DON'T KNOW.

THAT WOULD BE A QUES A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

THEY WOULD BE HERE AT SEVEN.

URBAN GENERAL, THREE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, FOUR, URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, AND FIVE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.

THANK YOU MS. SUSAN.

MS. PASTOR, UH, DID I HEAR CORRECTLY THIS LOT IS VACANT? YES.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS CASE? ALRIGHT, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU MS. RAZZI.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS ITEM E THREE.

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH A NEW HAMPTON ROAD, UH, CHARACTER CODE SECTION.

THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE SECTION WILL CONSIST OF THE FOLLOWING, FIVE NEW ZONING DISTRICTS.

ONE URBAN CENTER, TWO,

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THE APPLICANT IS THE SEAT OF DESOTO.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? CASE NUMBER, CASE NUMBER TA 0 0 5 24 IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NEW HAMPTON ROAD COR CHARACTER CODE SECTION.

THE HAMPTON ROAD CO CHARACTER CODE SECTION WILL CONSIST OF THE FOLLOWING, FIVE NEW ZONING DISTRICTS URBAN CENTER, URBAN GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION, AND THE APPLICANT IS SEAT OF DISORDER.

HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE IS INTENDED TO CREATE A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY MULTIMODAL DESTINATION FOR CITIZENS AND VISITORS.

IT FOCUSES ON THE PLACE AND CHARACTER WITH, WITH DETAILS SUCH AS WHAT IS BUILT, THE SIZE, THE HEIGHT, THE RELATIONSHIP TO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, PARKING AND SIGNAGE TO DO THE WORK.

THE CITY HIRED HALF ASSOCIATES FOR THE CREATION OF HAMPTON ROAD.

CHARACTER CODE ALONG THE HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR, A ONE MILE, UM, ONE MILE STRETCH FROM BELTLINE ROAD TO PRESENT RUN ROAD.

AS PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS PROCESS, HALF ASSOCIATES CONDUCTED COMMUNITY INPUT MEETINGS, ZONING, ADVISORY BOARD MEETING, CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING, JOINT MEETING TWO, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WORK SESSIONS, BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENCE PRESENTATION, OPEN HOUSE AND DROP IN SESSIONS ON FEBRUARY ONE, TWO AND AND, AND 3 20 24.

AT THE SECOND, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING WORK SESSION, THE COMMISSION REQUESTED THAT A FEW CHANGES BE MADE TO THE DRAFT REPORT AND HALF AS OUR ASSOCIATES MADE THE CHANGES AND INCORPORATED THEM INTO THE NEW DRAFT REPORT.

AND ACCORDING TO THE CITY OF OT, HOME RULE CHARTER SECTION TWO, IT STATES THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SHALL RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE ZONING PLAN.

THE HAMPTON RULE CORRIDOR PROJECT ADD A NEW SECTION TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THEREBY REQUIRING THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL ON SUNDAY, JANUARY 28TH, 2024.

A NOTICE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING WAS PUBLISHED ON FOCUS DAILY NEWS, AND AS THIS AFTERNOON, NO LETTERS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS TEXT AMENDMENT.

AND THIS EVENING TON ROAD CO CHARACTER CODE IS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONTACT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH THE NEW TON ROAD CHARACTER CODE SECTION.

AND AGAIN, THIS SECTION WILL CONSIST OF THIS, THE FOLLOWING, UM, ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS URBAN CENTER, URBAN GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.

AND MAKING THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS, UH, HALF ASSOCIATES.

DID YOU HALF? YES, I WELL THE CHAPTER NOW LET ME ASK YOU, THIS IS THE PRESENTATION WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE NOW.

GONNA BE THE SAME PRESENTATION WE'RE GONNA SEE IN THE REGULAR.

SO LET'S WAIT TILL THE REGULAR SESSION.

THIS IS GONNA BE THE SAME EXACT PRESENTATION.

UH, WITH, WITH THAT, YES MA'AM.

IN THE PRESENTATION, WILL YOU GUYS IDENTIFY SPECIFICALLY WHICH CHANGES WERE INCORPORATED? BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING HIGHLIGHTED TO DIFFERENTIATE, UH, THE ORIGINAL DRAFT FROM THIS DRAFT.

YES, YES, I ACTUALLY DO HAVE THEM IN THE REPORT.

OKAY, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

I, I DIDN'T ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, ARE THERE ANY IMMEDIATE QUESTIONS NOW FOR STAFF AS IT RELATES TO THIS AGENDA ITEM? OKAY, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO SECTION G, WHICH IS THE REGULAR AGENDA.

UH, AND SO G ONE IS CONSIDERED THE PRELIMINARY PLAT OF DESOTO COMMONS.

WENDY'S, THE PROPERTY IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING TRACK 54 AND THE CURTIS PARK, ABSTRACT NUMBER 1 1 2 4 800 SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD.

THE APPLICANT IS JIM MOLE AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HSB INVESTMENTS.

UH, CASE NUMBER IS PP DASH 3 4 4 DASH TWO THREE.

AND MS. JORDAN WILLIAMS, MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? GOOD EVENING TO YOU.

UM, GOOD EVENING, PLEASE EXCUSE MY VOICE.

HE WALKED AWAY LAST WEEK, SO IT'S COMING LIKE, OKAY.

UM, CASE NUMBER PRELIMINARY PLAID.

UH, 3 3 4 DASH TWO THREE IS A PRELIMINARY PATH FOR

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THE SOTO COMMONS.

WENDY'S ZONE GENERAL RETAIL.

THE LOT IS 4.33 ACRES.

PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EAST PLEASANT RUN ROAD AND SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD.

HERE WE HAVE AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.

TO THE NORTH IS A VACANT SINGLE FAMILY LOT TO THE SOUTH IS A VACANT GENERAL RETAIL LOT TO THE EAST ZONE.

PD 38 IS A CHRONIC CARE FACILITY FOR THE AGE INTO THE WEST ZONE.

PD ONE 20 IS ASSURED HAMPTON EDITION.

A SELF STORAGE FACILITY.

HERE IS THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT.

THIS REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT WILL CREATE TWO LOTS.

CURRENTLY VACANT AS ACCESS TO THE SITE WILL BE FROM HAMPTON ROAD AS WELL AS PARKVILLE ROAD.

THE APPLICANT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND THIS PLAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S ZONING AND SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT 3 3 4 DASH 23 AS PRESENTED.

COMMISSIONER, LET ME HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS FOR YOU.

UM, ENTRANCES OFF THE ENTRANCE SINGLE COMING OFF OF PARKVILLE.

ACTUALLY YOU SEE THE DOTTED LINES HERE IS COMING THROUGH THIS LARGER TRACK, WHICH IS GONNA BE THERE LOT TWO.

IT'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC SHARED ACCESS EASEMENT THAT COMES THROUGH TWO GOES THROUGH ONE WHICH IS LOT ONE THE PROPOSED WENDY SITE.

THEY WILL EVENTUALLY PROBABLY HAVE AN ACCESS, UH, EXTENSION HERE PROBABLY BEFORE IT COMES BACK THROUGH THE FINAL PLAT, BUT ALSO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT THAT GOES UP TO THE NORTH BECAUSE A PART OF THE BIG PICTURE FUTURE IS TO HAVE A MEDIAN OPENING.

NOW THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TONIGHT'S CASE, BUT I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU A, A, A BIGGER VIEW UNDERSTANDING OF THE BIG PICTURE.

TONIGHT YOU'RE BEING REQUESTED TO, UH, CONSIDER THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHICH IS PLATTING THE LARGER TRACK OF LAND INTO TWO SEPARATE LOTS.

THE SMALLER ONE WHERE WINDY IS GOING AND THE LARGER ONE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

A PART OF OUR ENGINEERING REQUIREMENT IS TO HAVE THEM TO SHOW WHERE A PROPOSED RETENTION OR DETENTION POND WILL BE.

JUST SO IT'LL BE THERE FOR THE RECORD.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESENTED PLAT? IT WAS PREPARED BY A LICENSED, UH, LAND SURVEY AND, AND MEETS ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS.

THANK YOU MR. BREWER.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION OR MR. BREWER ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? ALRIGHT, HEARING IS SAYING NONE.

THANK YOU MR. BREWER.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER G TWO G TWO, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER COUNSELING THE FEBRUARY 27TH, 2024 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.

MR. BREWER? YES, ASHLEY.

THIS ONE WE'RE GONNA RE NEED TO REMOVE FROM THE TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

UH, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, UH, RECEIVED A CALL FROM A DEVELOPER WHO POTENTIALLY MAY HAVE A FINAL PLAT THAT NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED AT THAT DATE.

SO, UH, STAFF IS PULLING THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.

THERE'LL BE NO ACTION FOR YOU TO DO TONIGHT.

TO JUST CANCEL THE, UH, WORK SESSION, BUT IT'S ALL UP TO YOU OR TO DECIDE WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO THAT OR YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN YOUR WORK SESSION AND START YOUR, START YOUR MEETINGS AT SEVEN.

THANK YOU MS. BREWER.

AND THAT WILL TAKE US TO ITEM G THREE, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER STARTING THE PLAN ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS AT 7:00 PM AND ELIMINATING THE COMMISSION'S 6:00 PM WORK SESSIONS.

UH, MS. AZI AND OR MR. BREWER .

SO THIS ITEM IS JUST, UH, COMING BEFORE YOU TO, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS TO WHETHER YOU WANT IT OR NOT, BUT, UH, AS OF FAR JANUARY THIS YEAR, THE CITY COUNCIL IS, THEY ELIMINATED THEIR WORK SESSION.

THEY'RE JUST GOING STRAIGHT INTO THEIR, UM, REGULAR, REGULAR MEETING AND IS STARTING AT SIX.

SO STAFF IS OF THE OPINION THAT, UH, YOU COULD FOLLOW SUIT AND JUST START AT SIX YOUR MEETINGS.

AS YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, WE ARE HAVING TO DO THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WE HAVE, WE DO DURING WORK SESSION, DURING THE, UM, REGULAR MEETINGS.

SO IT MAY BE PRUDENT

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IT'S UP TO YOU, BUT IT IS JUST A PROPOSAL AND UH, SOMETHING THAT WE ARE BRINGING BEFORE YOU TO, TO CONSIDER.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. MOON.

RAZZI.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

YOU DO HAVE A QUESTION.

ALRIGHT, MR. RAVEN GORE, I LOVE THE IDEA, HOWEVER, I JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT, THERE HAD TO BE A REASON THAT YOU DID.

WE WERE DOING WORK SESSIONS BEFORE THE REGULAR SESSIONS AND I WANTED YOU TO JUST GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THAT AND WHY DO YOU FEEL THAT WE'RE AT THE PLACE NOW WHERE WE CAN JUST DISMISS THOSE COMMISSION? THAT PROCESS STARTED BEFORE BEST OR I BECAME EMPLOYED WITH THE CITY.

IT IS JUST FROM DAY ONE MEETING, WE ARE FINDING OURSELF DUPLICATING WORD FOR WORD EVERYTHING THAT WE GIVE YOU AT YOUR WORK SESSION A SECOND TIME AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I KNOW WE'VE BROUGHT TO YOU DISCUSSING YOUR ANNUAL MEETING DATES AND I THINK WE'VE MAYBE SHORTLY TALKED ABOUT THE TIMING, BUT WE WANTED TO OFFICIALLY BRING IT BACK TO YOU SO WE CANNOT GIVE YOU WHAT THE INTENT OR HOW MEETINGS WILL RUN IN THE PAST, BUT WE ARE OBSERVING THAT WE ARE JUST DUPLICATING WHAT WE DO.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S TOTALLY YOUR CHOICE.

WE WILL CONTINUE IT AT YOUR PLEASURE, BUT WE WANTED YOU TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO OPENLY DISCUSS IT.

YOU DO HAVE TWO NEW COMMISSION, UH, MEMBERS THAT WEREN'T A PART A YEAR OR SO AGO.

SO JUST WANNA ALLOW YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY.

MR. BERRY.

MR. CHAIRMAN, AS YOU KNOW, I AM A NEW MEMBER FOR THE SECOND TIME WHEN WE WERE, UH, WHEN WE USED TO MEET BACK IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, WE HAD A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH AND CASUAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE CASES PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

THIS DAIS LENDS A ERROR OF FORM FORMALITY TO IT, AND I DON'T THINK WE ALWAYS GET AS IN DEPTH IN DISCUSSIONS AS WE MIGHT IF WE WERE STILL MEETING BACK THERE.

UH, THAT COMES FROM SEVEN YEARS PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE ON THE COMMISSION.

SO, UH, I LIKE THE PRE-MEETINGS, BUT I'D RATHER HAVE 'EM BACK THERE PERSONALLY BECAUSE I THINK AT LEE LENDS A LITTLE BIT OF LESS FORMALITY TO IT AND WE CAN DISCUSS THINGS AND EVEN ASK THE, THE APPLICANTS ARE STILL WELCOME TO COME IN THERE AND WE CAN ACTUALLY ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN BRING IT OUT HERE AND GET IT ON THE RECORD AFTER, UH, AFTER A PRE-MEETING.

NOW I REALIZE IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR SOME PEOPLE TO GET TO THE PRE-MEETINGS, BUT MAYBE WE COULD MOVE IT BACK, YOU KNOW, A HALF HOUR OR SOMETHING AND, UH, CHANGE OUR TIME FOR THE, FOR THE FORMAL MEETING.

MM-HMM.

, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS ON THAT, BUT PERSONALLY I LIKE THE PRE-MEETINGS, BUT, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.

JUST ONE COMMENT.

UH, DO UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOUR MEETINGS ARE IN THE BACK, IT STILL WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

IT WILL BE A PUBLIC MEETING.

MR. CHAIR, MS. ES? UM, I AGREE WITH MR. BERRY.

WHEN I WAS FIRST, UM, APPOINTED THIS POSITION AS A FILL, THE PRE-MEETINGS WERE IN CHA CHAMBER, UH, COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND IT WAS, UH, MORE INFORMAL AND WE COULD OPENLY DISCUSS WHAT WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS.

BUT I'M SEEING DR. MARKS SAY SOMETHING.

IS IT, UM, IS, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO HEAR WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY IF, IF DR. MARKS IS SO INCLINED? OKAY.

SHE CAN, UH, BUT SHE'S NOT REQUIRED TO.

OKAY, GREAT.

THAT THAT, THAT'S MY COMMENT THERE.

MS. BROOKS.

I AGREE.

I THINK THE WORK SESSIONS, THE INTENT OF THE WORK SESSIONS IS TO BE MORE INFORMAL, ASK QUESTIONS AND GIVE STAFF SOMETIMES AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS BEFORE THE ACTUAL MEETING THAT WE MAY HAVE.

THEY MAY NEED TO GO GRAB SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

WE'VE HAD THAT ISSUE IN THE PAST, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THE WORK SESSIONS.

KIND OF, I'M KIND OF TORN, BUT IF WE DO AWAY WITH THE WORK SESSIONS, WHAT WAS THE IMPETUS FOR STARTING AT SEVEN AND NOT BRINGING THE MEETINGS UP TO SIX O'CLOCK? I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES WITH, UM, QUORUMS GETTING HERE FOR WORK

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SESSIONS AT SIX.

I'M JUST CURIOUS TO WHY WE WOULD REMOVE THE WORK SESSIONS AND NOT PULL THE MEETINGS FORWARD ANOTHER HOUR.

WAS THERE SOME SPECIFIC REASON BEHIND THAT? NO.

IF THE WORK SESSION IS UM, REMOVED, THEN THE MEETINGS WAS STARTED.

SIX, JUST LIKE WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS DOING AND AS FAR AS INFORMATION AND STUFF, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE SENT PACKETS OR LINKS TO PACKETS ON FRIDAYS IS TO GIVE YOU TIME, HOPEFULLY DURING THE WEEKEND TO LOOK OVER THEM.

AND ON MONDAY AND BEFORE OUR TUESDAY MEETING, YOU HAVE THAT ROOM AND SPACE TO ASK STAFF WHATEVER ELSE LIKE, UH, SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS DO RIGHT NOW TO JUST ASK, HEY, GIVE ME MORE INFORMATION ON THIS.

CAN WE HAVE CLARITY ON THIS BEFORE THEY CHOOSE THE MEETING? SO THERE IS THAT ROOM FOR YOU TO ALWAYS ASK BEFORE THE MEETINGS.

J JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU SAID DIFFERS FROM WHAT'S ON PAPER.

THE MEETINGS WOULD START AT SIX OR AT SEVEN, SIX.

NO, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.

YOUR AGENDA ITEM SAYS SEVEN.

NO, THAT'S IN THE AREA.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SIX BUT IT'S STILL YOUR PLEASURE.

HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO SET IT UP.

I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE A COMMENT IN REITERATING WHAT, UH, MS. AZI SAID IN THOSE CASES WHERE WE HAVE ASKED THEM QUESTIONS AND THEY'VE NEEDED TO GO GET THAT INFORMATION, IF WE ARE REVIEWING THE CASES BEFORE WE COME, THEY WOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

IF WE CALL THEM AND SAY, HEY, I'M GONNA NEED TO KNOW THIS, THEY COULD BRING THAT INFORMATION INTO THE MEETING.

THAT'S IF WE'RE HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO REVIEW THOSE CASES BEFOREHAND.

SO THAT COULD ELIMINATE UM, THE ISSUE OF THEM HAVING TO RUN OUT TO FIND SOMETHING DURING THE MEETING.

SO JUST TO, SHE MENTIONED IT BUT I WANTED TO JUST REITERATE THAT WE COULD HELP THEM OUT IN THAT FASHION.

PLEASURE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COMMISSIONER BROOKS PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IS STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

COMMISSION ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTARY ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? OKAY, HEARING AND SEEING NONE.

LAST PIECE OF BUSINESS, DO WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER, UH, TO LEAD US IN THE PLEASURE OF ALLEGIANCE THIS EVENING? OKAY.

ALRIGHT, MS. BROOKS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH STAFF.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO DISCUSS BEFORE WE CLOSE THE WORK SESSION? NO.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE TIME IS NOW 6 32.

WE WILL NOW ADJOURN THE WORK SESSION AND WE WILL START THE REGULAR SESSION PROMPTLY AT 7:00 PM THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING LADIES AND

[C. REGULAR SESSION - CALL TO ORDER]

GENTLEMEN.

THE TIME IS NOW 7:00 PM WE WANNA WELCOME YOU OUT TO THE TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 13TH, 2024 REGULAR SESSION OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.

WE WILL BE CALLED TO ORDER AND GET STARTED WITH THE

[B. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

ON THE AGENDA COMMISSIONERS IS UNDER ITEM D ONE A, WHICH IS CONSIDERED APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE PLANNING ZONING, REGULAR MEETING OF JANUARY 23RD, 2024.

YOU MAY BE SEATED.

BEFORE WE PROCEED, LET THE REC RECORD REFLECT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

TO MY RIGHT WE HAVE MR. BELL, MS. CAESAR, MR. DALE.

TO MY LEFT WE HAVE MS. BROOKS, MR. BERRY, AND MYSELF, MR. PUGH.

SO AGAIN, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM WITH SIX COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.

UH, THE FIRST ITEM

[D. CONSENT AGENDA Any item may be withdrawn from the consent agenda and acted on separately. Approval of the Consent Agenda authorizes the approval of each item in accordance with Staff Recommendations.]

COMMISSIONERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE MINUTES OF JANUARY 23RD, 2024.

ARE THERE ANY, UH, ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, OR MODIFICATIONS, UH, THAT YOU WOULD SUGGEST FOR THOSE PARTICULAR MINUTES? HEARING AND SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION MR AU? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.

SECOND.

MR. CHAIR, BEEN PROPERLY MOVED? A SECOND.

ANY UNREADINESS? ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE RIGHT HAND, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? DO THE SAME TO SAY NAY.

THE AYES HAVE IT.

SIX ZERO.

[1. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider making a recommendation to the City Council on a request to amendment to Planned Development-139 (PD-139) to allow for the construction of a Wedding, Banquet, & Party Facility (INDOOR) and associated parking spaces at DeSoto Event Center, Tract 11R (160 Seahawk Drive). The DeSoto Event Center, Tract 11R consists of approximately 1.776 acres. The applicant is Wendell Lockhart and owner is Lakeiera Burdett. (Case No. Z-1516-24). (This item has been withdrawn; the public hearing will be re-noticed for Specific Use Permit (SUP) rather than PD-139 amendment as was originally noticed)]

WILL NOW MOVE ON, UH, TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS LIST LISTED IN SECTION E.

UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BEFORE WE PROCEED, I WANT TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT MR. TRENT CARROLL, WOULD YOU PLEASE WAVE YOUR HAND? THANK YOU.

SIR.

IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS EVENING, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD WITH MR. CARROLL AND HE WILL GIVE THAT TO US.

UH, SO AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO, UH, BE HEARD ON ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE HAVE SET THIS, UH, EVENING IF YOU WOULD SEE MR. CARROLL.

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UH, THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL START OFF WITH ITEM E ONE AND E ONE.

UH, FOR RECORD PURPOSES WAS CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1516 DASH 24 AND WE HAVE A NOTATION THAT THAT ITEM HAS BEEN RE UH, WITHDRAWN.

SO AGAIN, UNDER E ONE CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1516 DASH 24, THAT ITEM HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

WITH THAT BEING IN THIS CASE, WE'LL MOVE ON

[2. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider making a recommendation to the City Council for the applicant's request to amend Planned Development-120 (PD-120) to allow for site layout and building amendments on the undeveloped southern portion (803 S. Hampton Road) of the Assured Hampton Addition, Lot 2, Block A consisting of approximately 1.86 acres. The applicant is SGW Architecture and Design and the owner is Extra Space Properties Two LLC. (Case No. Z-1515-24)]

TO ITEM E TWO.

E TWO IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO AMEND PLAN DEVELOPMENT ONE 20.

PD ONE 20 TO ALLOW FOR SITE LAYOUT AND BUILDING AMENDMENTS ON THE UNDEVELOPED UNDEVELOPED SOUTHERN PORTION.

8 0 3 SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD OF THE ASSURED HAMPTON EDITION.

LOT TWO BLOCK A CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 1.86 ACRES.

THE APPLICANT IS SGW ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN AND THE OWNER IS EXTRA SPACE PROPERTIES TWO LLC AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1515 DASH 24.

AND GOOD EVENING MS. RAZZI.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSIONER EZ WITH THE PLANNING DIVISION CASE NUMBER Z 15 15 24 IS AN AMENDMENT TO PD TO ONE 20 TO ALLOW FOR A SITE LAYOUT AND BUILDING AMENDMENTS ON THE UNDEVELOPED SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OWNED PD ONE 20 WITH GENERAL RETAIL IS THE BASE ZONING THE PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF UM, EAST PARKER VIEW AND SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD.

THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF 1.86 ACRES OF LAND.

THIS IS THE AREA OF VIEW OF THE, UH, PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN, IN RED.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND TO THE NORTH IS THE EXISTING STORAGE FACILITY, ZONED PLANT DEVELOPMENT.

ONE 20 TO THE SOUTH IS A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GASOLINE CELLS ZONED COMMERCIAL.

ONE TO THE EAST IS VACANT, LAND ZONED GENERAL RETAIL AND SINGLE FAMILY 10 TO THE WEST IS VACANT LAND ZONE SINGLE FAMILY 10.

THE FUTURE LAND THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OF THE 2024 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THE SITE IS SUITABLE FOR DESTINATION.

MIXED USES.

THE PROPOSED MANY WAREHOUSE ARE IN ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE NEWLY ADOPTED 2024 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE PROPERTIES ACCESS FROM SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD AND WEST PARKFIELD ROAD, EAST PARKFIELD ROAD IS BEING IS A SIX LANE ARTERIAL ROADWAY AND SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD IS A FOUR LANE ARTERIAL ROAD WHERE ON THE NEWLY ADOPTED 2024 MASTER THERAPY PLAN.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A NEW SITE LAYOUT AND LARGER BUILDING SIZES FROM WHAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2014 AND THE ONE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2014 IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WE ARE SEEING ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

AND THE SOUTHERN PORTION THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, THE AT THE HARD CORNER OF, UH, HARTON AND PARKER VIEW.

THE PD ONE 20 THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2014 REQUIRES THAT THE DEVELOPMENT BE IN ACCORDANCE TO WHAT WAS APPROVED IN 2014.

PREVIOUS TOTAL BUILDING SIZE WAS 30,600 SQUARE FEET AND THE PROPOSED NEW BUILDINGS TOTAL IS 30,682 SQUARE FEET.

THE NEW BUILDING, THE NEW BUILDINGS WILL MATCH THE EXISTING BUILDINGS.

ONE BUILDING WILL BE PARTIALLY DEMOLISHED FOR ACCESS PURPOSES.

THERE WILL BE NO NEW ACCESS PROPOSED FROM SOUTH PARKER VIEW AS WELL AS, UH, FROM PARKER VIEW ROAD AS WELL AS TON ROAD.

THE DETENTION PONDED ON THE ON EAST ON PARKER VIEW ROAD WILL BE LODGED.

SO THIS IS THE, UM, THE NEW SITE PLAN THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

AS YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE THAT WAS APPROVED FROM UH, 2014.

AND AS I SAID, AGAIN, THE EXISTING, UM, DRIVES OR ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY WILL REMAIN THE ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE, WHICH IS FROM HAMPTON.

ON THIS TO THIS SITE, THE BUILDING THAT IS GOING TO BE PARTIALLY DEMOLISHED IS THIS ONE TO GIVE ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY AND THIS, THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO MAINTAIN THE ACCESS FROM PARKER VIEW TO THIS SITE AS WELL.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED LAYOUT, THE NEW PROPOSED LAYOUT.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN.

THIS IS THE ELEVATION PLAN.

SECOND PAGE, THE ELEVATION PLAN.

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AS I SAID AGAIN, UH, THIS, UH, THE NEWLY ADOPTED 2024 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS SITE IS SUITABLE FOR DESTINATION MIXED USE AND THE PROPOSED MAIN WAREHOUSE CON CONFLICT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OF THE NEWLY ADOPTED 2024 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE DESTINATION MIXED USES INCLUDE A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES, OPEN SPACE AND A VARIETY OF AMENITIES TO CREATE A DESTINATION AREA.

AND, UM, RECOMMENDATION NUMBER THREE, UNDERGO NUMBER ONE, FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OF THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING ENCOURAGES REZONING OF PDS SUCH AS PD ONE 20 TO RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.

ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S A LIMITED AMOUNT OF REMAINING VACANT AND DEVELOPABLE LAND IN THE CITY.

PUBLIC NOTIFICATION APPEARED IN DAILY FOCUS NEWS ON JANUARY 28TH, 2024.

STAFF ALSO MAILED 12 NOTIFICATIONS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 AND 400 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

NO LETTERS WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT REQUEST.

UH, ON THE RIGHT, THE SITE IS SHOWN IN BLACK AND THE AREA IN BLUE IS THE ONE THAT IS WITHIN 200 FEET.

AND THE AREA, AREA IN PAPER IS THE ONE THAT IS WITHIN 400 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOR MANY WAREHOUSES.

AGAIN, THIS IS ALSO BECAUSE OF THE CONFLICT THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS WITH THE NEW ADOPTED 2024, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

AND THE APPLICATION IS THE APPLICANT IS ALSO AVAILABLE SHOULD YOU HAVE QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? OKAY, HEARING THIS SIT MR. DUB, GO AHEAD PLEASE, SIR.

UH, IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHAT WE'RE COVERING ON THIS APPLICATION IS CONSIDERED PHASE TWO OF THIS ORIGINAL PROJECT? YES IT IS.

SO IT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, IS IT NOT GRANDFATHERED COMMISSION? IF YOU LOOK AT THE PD ONE 20 THAT I'VE PROVIDED TO YOU, UH, PLEASE GO TO PAGE TWO AT THE TOP LETTER H AND IT STATES BUILDING ELEVATIONS.

THE BUILDING SHALL BE DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ELEVATION PLAN ATTACHED HERE AS EXHIBIT D FOR PHASE ONE AND EXHIBIT G FOR PHASE TWO.

AND SO WHEN YOU GO TO PHASE TWO, WHICH IS G YOU WILL SEE THAT THEY'RE SHOWING A DIFFERENT LAYOUT AND AS BESTER HAD IDENTIFIED EARLIER, IF THEY WOULD'VE CONSTRUCTED THAT THEY COULD HAVE PROCEEDED.

BUT SINCE THEY'RE PROPOSING A CHANGE, IT'S REQUIRING THAT CHANGE SITE PLAN AND BILLING INFORMATION TO COME BEFORE THE CITY.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, HEARING IS SEEING NONE THE TIME IS NOW SEVEN 10.

WE'LL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT.

IF THE APPLICANT SO CHOOSES TO COME FORWARD, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO, BUT IF YOU CHOOSE TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK ON BEHALF, UH, OF THIS, UH, PARTICULAR APPLICATION, ALSO ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY, UH, CAN COME FORWARD AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, UH, FOR THREE MINUTES, EITHER IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.

AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, SIR, IF YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE AND GO GO RIGHT AHEAD.

AND ALSO IF YOU CUT THE MICROPHONE ON PLEASE.

I'M SORRY.

HI.

UH, MY NAME'S MIKE HYDE.

I'M WITH SEW ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN.

UM, I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WAS THE OTHER THING I NEEDED TO STATE? UH, JUST YOUR, YOUR NAME AND CITY RESIDENCE, THAT'S ALL.

OH, UH, CHICAGO, ILLINOIS.

GO AHEAD.

UM, WELL I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, UH, YEAH, I THINK OUR, OUR PLAN IS, UH, IN KEEPING WITH THE APPROVED, UH, PD, UH, PLAN.

UH, WE'VE GONE TO, UM, GREAT LINKS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ELEVATIONS WILL BLEND WITH THE BUILDING THAT'S THERE.

I THINK ONCE OUR PROJECT IS COMPLETED, IT'LL, IT'LL BE VERY SEAMLESS IN TERMS OF WHAT'S NEW AND WHAT'S OLD.

UM, I THINK WE'RE IMPROVING THE, THE CORNER OF THAT SITE BY WHAT THE LANDSCAPING THAT WE'RE ADDING.

UM, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH, UH, OUR PRE-APPLICATION, UH, MEETINGS WITH THE STAFF, WHICH WAS VERY HELPFUL AND WE'VE ADDRESSED, UH, THEIR COMMENTS.

SO, UM, YEAH, I I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD ADDITION TO THAT, UH,

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FACILITY.

UM, CURRENTLY THE FACILITY IS 93% RENTED.

I VISITED, UH, THERE TODAY AND TALKED TO THE MANAGER.

UM, SO THEY'RE IN NEED OF THAT EXPANSION SPACE, UH, FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT.

UM, AND OTHER THAN THAT, I'M HAPPY TO, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

NO.

SO HANG TIGHT RIGHT THERE.

LET ME JUST ASK THE QUESTION.

UH, COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTION, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT? MS. BROOKS, GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

WERE KIND OF LOW.

I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR NAME SIR.

MIKE HYDE.

MIKE MIKE? YEAH.

MR. MIKE, UM, JUST, I THINK YOU WERE HERE DURING A WORK SESSION.

I ASKED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND THE LAYOUT OF THE BUILDING.

IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR REASON WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? I MEAN, WHAT'S THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE IN, UH, LAYOUT OF THAT BUILDING? WELL, IT'S, UH, MAINLY TO DO WITH THE DESIRABILITY, UH, FROM THE CLIENT STANDPOINT TO HAVE MORE, UM, SPACE, WHICH IS CLIMATE CONTROLLED.

AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WHEN WE BUILD BUILDINGS THAT ARE CLIMATE CONTROLLED FOR STORAGE, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO DO THEM AS A LARGER STRUCTURE INSTEAD OF SEVERAL SMALLER ONES, UM, WITH INTERIOR CORRIDORS AND SO FORTH.

SO THAT'S REALLY, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT THE, UH, CLIENTELE ARE DESIRING FOR THAT LOCATION.

AND CURRENTLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT, UH, SITE PLAN, THE TWO LARGEST BUILDINGS, THIS IS A POINTER? YES.

SOMETHING ELSE TO FIGURE OUT TO USE MR. KING.

THIS ONE IS THERE, IS THERE A LASER POINTER OR? YEAH, IT, OH, GOTCHA.

SO, OOPS.

OKAY, SO, UM, THERE WE GO.

SO THESE, THESE TWO BUILDINGS ARE CURRENTLY CLIMATE CONTROLLED.

ALL THE OTHERS ARE, UM, DRIVE UP WITH GARAGE DOOR UNITS, WHICH ARE NOT CLIMATE CONTROLLED.

SO PART OF WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO WITH THE NEW, UM, EXPANSION IS TO INCLUDE MORE CLIMATE CONTROL.

AND I'M SORRY, CAN YOU GET CLOSER TO THE MIC PLEASE? CLOSER TO THE MIC.

OH, I'M SORRY.

UM, JUST TO HAVE MORE, MORE CLIMATE CONTROLLED, UM, UH, UH, LOCKERS AS A PART OF THE FACILITY.

SO THESE, THESE WILL NOT BE CLIMATE CONTROLLED, THESE ARE, UH, TRADITIONAL DRIVE UP.

I DUNNO IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR, YOUR QUESTION.

YEAH.

AND YOU SAID IT'S GOING TO BE LARGER.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM OH, IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS APPROVED VERSUS CORRECT? UM, SO, OH YEAH, IT'S JUST 82 SQUARE FEET, 82 SQUARE FEET.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE JUST RIGHT ON THERE.

AND SO THE PROPOSAL IS GOING TO MEET THE INTENT OF THE ORIGINAL, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF INCLUDING CLIMATE CONTROL FEATURES? CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT I SAID? JUST A RECONFIGURATION OF THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE.

UH, MY QUESTION IS, IS JUST TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY.

SO WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU TO SAY IS THAT THE REASON YOU'RE HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE OF THE CLIMATE CONTROL.

UM, ARE YOU NOT ABLE TO STAY WITH THE SAME CONFIGURATION OF THE BUILDING AND DO CLIMATE CONTROL? LEMME GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS.

SO THIS IS WHAT WAS APPROVED PREVIOUSLY AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE, WHEREAS WE DO HAVE IN THE SCHEME THESE TWO BUILDINGS, WE ALSO HAVE MUCH MORE DRIVE UP THAN WE DID BEFORE.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS CONSOLIDATING MOST OF THESE BUILDINGS INTO THE SECOND BUILDING, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK, SORRY, COMPARE THE TWO.

SO YOU SEE THE, THE BUILDINGS ARE LARGER IN FOOTPRINTS AND WE JUST HAVE THE ONE, I'LL GET IT, WE JUST HAVE THE ONE, THE ONE BUILDING THERE, WHICH IS DRIVE UPS VERSUS THE PREVIOUS SCHEME, WHICH WE HAD THREE BUILDINGS, WHICH ARE DRIVE UP.

UM, SO WE'RE BASICALLY TAKING, YOU KNOW, ABOUT LET'S SAY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THESE TWO GUYS AND PUTTING THEM INTO, UH, THAT BUILDING.

IF THAT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

LET ME REPHRASE MY QUESTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET THE INFORMATION I NEEDED.

WHEN YOU GOT THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL, WERE YOU LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE AS TO WHAT YOU MIGHT NEED WHEN YOU ASK FOR THAT APPROVAL? I, I SUSPECT IT'S MAINLY JUST A, A CHANGE IN THE MARKET FOR THESE THINGS.

WHAT I'M ASKING IS, BASED ON WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED, THE FOOTPRINT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED, ARE YOU NOT ABLE TO CONSTRUCT CLIMATE CONTROL, UH, UNITS AND THE PROPOSED FOOTPRINT? UH, WHEN YOU SAY FOOTPRINT, ARE YOU SPECIFICALLY YEAH, THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT THERE, THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT IN THE DIAGRAM, WE ARE, BUT NOT AS EFFICIENTLY.

SO THE, THE GOAL IN CONSOLIDATING THE BUILDINGS IS TO, UM, MAKE THEM MORE EFFICIENT.

UH, SO WHEN WE HAVE A SKINNY LITTLE BUILDING, IT BECOMES REALLY EXPENSIVE TO, UH, CLIMATE CONTROL IT.

UM, UH, WHEN WE CONSOLIDATE THINGS, IT BECOMES LIKE A, LIKE A BUILDING LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAVE, UH, MECHANICAL UNITS AND SO FORTH THAT ARE SERVING A LARGER AREA, IT'S EASIER TO INSULATE AND DO THOSE SORTS OF THINGS AS WELL.

DOES THAT, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES.

IT, IT HELPS A LITTLE BIT.

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UH, THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S LED EXTRA SPACE TO WANT TO MAKE THIS CHANGE.

AND YOU KNOW, THE, THOSE, THOSE UNITS THAT ARE CLIMATE CONTROLLED ARE MORE SALEABLE NOW THAN THEY WOULD'VE BEEN IN IN THE PAST.

THERE'S A PREMIUM FOR THE CLIMATE CONTROLLED UNIT.

UM, I SUSPECT THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

I OKAY.

YOU THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF MARKET RESEARCH AND SO FORTH THAT GOES ON.

UM, THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF, BUT OKAY.

SO, AND THIS IS THE LAST THING THAT I'D LIKE TO SAY.

SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR, BASED ON THE ORIGINAL FOOTPRINT THAT WAS APPROVED, YOU CAN DO CLIMATE CONTROL, UH, UNITS, HOWEVER THE RECONFIGURATION IS GONNA MAKE IT MORE FEASIBLE FOR YOU TO BE ABLE THIS, RIGHT? WE, YEAH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE CAN, BUT IT'S NOT FEASIBLE BECAUSE OF THE, THE INEFFICIENCIES OF CLIMATE CONTROLLING BUILDINGS IN THAT, IN THAT SHAPE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

SURE.

COMMERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU SIR.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

IS, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO'D LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, EITHER TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS AGENDA ITEM OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS AGENDA ITEM? I'LL ASK ONCE AGAIN, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK EITHER IN FAVOR OF THIS AGENDA ITEM OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS AGENDA ITEM? ALRIGHT, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.

WE'LL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY AT 7:19 PM TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, COMMISSIONERS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTARY BEFORE WE CONSIDER A MOTION? I GOT A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

GO AHEAD MS. BELL.

UM, FOR PD ONE 20, THE APPROVAL THAT, UH, THE APPROVAL ON THAT PD, DOES IT, DOES IT EXIST FOREVER OR IS THERE SOME KIND OF, UH, STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON WHEN IT MUST BE DEVELOPED? IT GOES WITH THE LAND, SO IT'S FOREVER.

LEMME CORRECT MYSELF.

IT'S FOREVER UNTIL SOMEONE INITIATES A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, WHETHER IT'S THE APPLICANT, THE CITY COUNCIL, OR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

BILL, GO AHEAD TO THE POINT OF THE QUESTION.

IF THE APPLICANT CAN AT ANY TIME, WHETHER IT BE NEXT MONTH OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW, DECIDE TO BUILD THAT APPROVED CONFIGURATION ON THAT, THAT LAND WITHOUT ENCUMBRANCE, RIGHT? YES SIR.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BROOKS.

MS. BROOKS, JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.

I, UH, FAILED TO ASK MS. ZI WHEN SHE WAS DOING HER REPORT YOU IN, YOU INDICATED THAT THERE'S AN ENLARGED DETENTION POND AREA.

WAS THAT AT THE REQUEST OF STAFF OR WAS THAT AT THE, UM, PROACTIVE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT? I BELIEVE IT WAS AT THE REQUEST OF A STAFF AS WELL AS WHAT IS NEEDED BECAUSE THE ONE THAT WAS, UH, UH, CREATED BEFORE WAS JUST TO SAVE THE EXISTING, UH, THE EXISTING, UM, THE EXISTING, UM, STORAGE FACILITY.

SO THIS ONE WILL HELP TO, THIS ONE WILL HELP WITH THIS PROPOSED LAYOUT.

THIS ONE WILL HELP WITH THIS NEWLY PROPOSED LAYOUT.

THE ONE THAT IS THERE RIGHT NOW IS THE ONE THAT IS SAVING THIS PROPERTY.

SO TOGETHER THEY WILL SAVE THE WHOLE PROPERTY AND THAT'S A CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT IS OKAY WITH, UM, AT THE TIME.

AND THAT'S A, A CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT IS OKAY WITH, DOESN'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO IT? YES, THAT'S WHY THEY GAVE US THESE PLANS THAT ARE SHOWING THIS, THESE PLANS ARE FROM THE APPLICANT.

GOT IT.

LET ME ALSO ADD, AS I MENTIONED IN THE WORKSHOP, UH, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE APPLICANT CAME TO THE CITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR DEVELOPMENTAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING IN FEBRUARY 23RD, 2023.

AND IT WAS DURING THAT TIME THAT OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENTS IDENTIFIED TO THE APPLICANT THAT WE ARE AN MS FOUR MUNICIPAL SEPARATE STORM SEWER SYSTEM AND THUS THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ENSURE THAT POST-CONSTRUCTION RUNOFF WAS NO GREATER THAN PRE-CONSTRUCTION RUNOFF.

SO WE DID HAVE CONVERSATION ON OUR REGULATIONS WITH, UH, STORMWATER.

MR. BREWER? NO, YOUR PLEASURE.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, HEARING AND C NONE WE RESPECT TO CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1515

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DASH 24.

IS THERE A MOTION COMMISSIONER BROOKS? UM, IN LIGHT OF THE VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, THE LAYOUT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED, IT STILL MEETS THE ORIGINAL INTENT.

I ANTICIPATE IN A 10 YEAR PERIOD TECHNOLOGY CHANGE AND IF THE APPLICANT IS WANTING TO MAKE SOME EFFICIENCIES, THAT'S NOT GOING TO CAUSE ANY ISSUES WITH EGRESS ACCESS OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS.

I WANT TO, UH, MOVE THAT WE GO AGAINST STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVE THE NEW LAYOUT.

YOU, YOU DON'T NEED TO SAY VERSUS STAFF, JUST GO STRAIGHT WITH YOUR MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

WELL, IT SAYS RECOMMENDATION.

I'M NOT, I'M GOING, I'M NOT GOING WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT'S LISTED IN THE DOCKET.

SO I RECOMMEND THAT WE DO NOT FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL.

IS THAT WORDING NOT OKAY.

YOUR PLEASURE.

WELL, MR. BREWER, I MOVE THAT WE, HE, HE, MR. BREWER IS JUST SEEKING A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

UH, UH, UH, OF, OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

OKAY, SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS SAYS DENIAL, RECOMMEND DENIAL, BUT I'M MOVING THAT WE APPROVE.

WILL MOVE ON NOW TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

COMMISSIONERS, THERE'S BEEN A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BROOKS, UH, THAT WE APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AS PRESENTED.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

THERE'S BEEN A SECOND BY MR. BERRY.

IS THERE ANY UNREADINESS HEARING AND SEEING NONE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

A AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

[3. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider making a recommendation to the City Council to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance to establish a new "Hampton Road Character Code" section. The "Hampton Road Character Code" section will consist of the following five (5) new zoning districts: 1. Urban Center, 2. Urban General, 3. Neighborhood Services, 4. Urban Neighborhood and 5. Neighborhood Transition. The applicant is the City of DeSoto.]

NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS, UH, E THREE.

AND IT SAYS, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH A NEW HAMPTON CHARACTER CODE SECTION.

THE HAMPTON CHARACTER CODE SECTION WILL CONSIST OF THE FOLLOWING, FIVE ZONING DISTRICTS.

NUMBER ONE, URBAN CENTER.

NUMBER TWO, URBAN GENERAL.

NUMBER THREE, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

NUMBER FOUR, URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND NUMBER FIVE, NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.

THE APPLICANT IS THE CITY OF DESOTO AND MS. RAZZI, MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT, PLEASE? YES.

CASE NUMBER TA 0 0 5 24 IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NEW HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE SECTION.

THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE WILL CONSIST OF FIVE NEW ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE E AND CENTER, E GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION, AND THE APPLICANT IS SEAT OF DISORDER.

THE HAMPTON ROAD CALLED CHARACTER CODE IS INTENDED TO CREATE A, A DISTANT FRIENDLY MULTIMODAL DESTINATION FOR CITIZENS AS WELL AS VISITORS.

IT FOCUSES ON, ON PLACE AND CHARACTER WITH, WITH DETAILS SUCH AS WHAT IS BUILT, THE SIZE, THE HEIGHT, THE RELATIONSHIP TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, PARKING, AS WELL AS SIGNAGE TO DO THE WORK.

THE SEAT HIRED HALF ASSOCIATES TO FOR THE CREATION OF THE HAMPTON CORRIDOR CHARACTER CODE ALONG HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR, WHICH IS A ONE MILE STRETCH FROM BELTLINE ROAD TO PRESENT RUN ROAD.

AS PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS, HALF ASSOCIATES CONDUCTED ONE COMMUNITY INPUT MEETING, ZONING ADVISORY BOARD MEETING CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION JOINT MEETING TWO, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WORK SESSIONS.

THEY ALSO CONDUCTED BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENCE PRESENTATION, OPEN HOUSE AND DROP IN SESSIONS ON FEBRUARY ONE, FEBRUARY TWO, AND FEBRUARY 3RD, 2024.

AND AT THE SECOND PLANNING AND ZONING WEEK SESSION, THE COMMISSION RE REQUESTED THAT A FEW CHANGES BE MADE WITH THE DRAFT REPORT AND OUR ASSOCIATES MADE THOSE CHANGES AND INCORPORATED THEM IN THE NEW DRAFT REPORT.

THE CITY OF DISORDER SWARM RULE CHARTER SECTION TWO STATES THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SHALL RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES IN THE ZONING PLAN AND THE HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR PROJECTS ADD A NEW SECTION TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THEREBY REQUIRING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION OR DIS DISAPPROVAL ON SUNDAY, JANUARY 28TH, 2024.

A NOTICE FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING WAS PUBLISHED ON IN FOCUS DAILY NEWS AND OF, AS OF THIS AFTERNOON, THERE WERE NO LETTERS RECEIVED IN FAVOR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS TEXT AMENDMENT AGAIN THIS EVENING.

THE HAMPTON CORRIDOR CHARACTER CODE IS

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ON THE AGENDA FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL AMENDING THE ZONING WAR TO ESTABLISH A NEW HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR.

HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE SECTION.

THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACT CODE SECTION WILL CONSIST OF THE FIVE NEWS ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH ARE E AND CENTER E AND GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, E NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.

AND MAKING THIS PRESENTATION IS OUR FIRST ASSOCIATES AND I'LL GIVE IT TO OUR ASSOCIATES TO COME AND MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU BESTER.

AND GO AHEAD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND GIVE US YOUR CITY.

AND I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AFTER THE PRESENTATION.

SIR, WE'RE GONNA AFTER THE PRESENTATION? YES.

THAT REALLY DOVE INTO THE HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR RECOMMENDING THOSE THREE MIXED USE, UH, UH, WALKABLE DISTRICTS.

UH, MATT BUCHIN, UH, RESIDENT OF CEDAR PARK, TEXAS AND REPRESENTATIVE HALF ASSOCIATES.

SO MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, STAFF AND PUBLIC, UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE AT THIS POINT IN THE CONVERSATION.

UH, TONIGHT ON THE AGENDA IS YOUR OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATION FOR MOVING THE TEXT AMENDMENT OF THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CO UH, CHARACTER CODE, UH, ONTO THE CITY OF COUNCIL.

UH, AND IN ORDER FOR US TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT WHERE WE ARE IN THE CONVERSATION AS WE'RE NEARING THE ENDING PROCESS, WE FEEL IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KIND OF TAKE A STEP BACK AND, AND KIND OF OVERVIEW ALL THAT HAS BROUGHT THE CITY OF DESOTO TO THIS POINT.

SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT IN TIME.

WE'RE GONNA OVERVIEW THE CHARACTER CODE, UH, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND THEN WALK THROUGH THE ADOPTION SCHEDULE.

AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, MYSELF AND, AND TWO OTHER PEOPLE KIND OF SHIFT BACK AND FORTH AS WE MOVE THROUGH THOUGH.

UH, WHEN WE CAME AND PRESENTED AT THE WORK SESSION BACK ON JANUARY 23RD, THERE WERE SEVERAL THINGS THAT THE, THIS BOARD, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ASKED US TO SPECIFICALLY LOOK AT.

UH, THOSE WERE, UH, AND THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE BASED ON THAT CONVERSATION WERE UPDATING SECTION 3.71, THE PUBLIC STREET DESIGN STANDARDS TO PERMIT ANGLE PARKING ON NEW STREETS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HAMPTON ROAD, BECAUSE THAT ROAD HAS ALREADY BEEN IN THE DESIGN PROCESS AS WE ALL KNOW, UPDATING FIGURE 3.75 A TO ADD LABELS, INCLUDING IDENTIFYING THE MEDIAN ISLAND WITH PEDESTRIAN PATH TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS SAFE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN PARKING AREAS AND, AND THE RIGHTS OF WAY FOR PROPERTIES.

UPDATING SECTION 4.12 ADMINISTRATIVE ADJUSTMENTS, UH, TO SECTION 4.12 MINOR ADJUSTMENT AND REVISING THIS PROVISION AS REQUESTED TO REQUIRE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVAL FOR ANY SUCH MINOR ADJUSTMENT.

UH, AND THEN REFRAMING THE SECTION ON EXTERIOR BUILDING COLOR TO ADD A SECONDARY PALETTE.

THERE WAS ANOTHER CONVERSATION POINT ABOUT SOME OF THE TRAFFIC, UH, COUNTS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT THAT LEAL WILL COVER LATER IN THE PROCESS.

SO NOW TAKING A STEP BACK ON THIS CONVERSATION, UH, BESTER KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN THIS PAST YEAR.

BUT THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CHANGING OF THIS CORRIDOR, UH, WE'VE HEARD WHEN WE WERE IN SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO, INTO THE 1990S, BUT SPECIFICALLY IN THE PLANNING PHASE, IT WAS GOING BACK TO 2005 WITH THAT 2005 CORRIDOR STUDY THAT IDENTIFIED THE CATALYST SITES THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR IN REDEVELOPING ALONG THE CAR, THE HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR, UH, STARTING THE VISIONING PROCESS FOR THAT TOWN CENTER.

AND THAT LED SPECIFICALLY TO THE CITY MOVING FORWARD WITH A 2014 LAND ACQUISITION PLAN TO START ACQUIRING PROPERTIES ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND HIGHLIGHTED OTHER IMPORTANT THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ACCOMPLISHED BEFORE THIS VISION COULD TURN INTO A REALITY.

IN 2015, THE UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIED, UH, OBJECTIVES IN THEIR LAND USE SECTION, IDENTIFYING THE CONTINUATION OF THIS CON, THIS CONVERSATION, UH, ESTABLISHING THAT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE CENTRAL CITY AREA AT PLEASANT RUN AND HAMPTON ROAD AND THAT ORIGINAL TOWN SITE ALONG BELTLINE ROAD AND HAMPTON ROAD.

AND THEN CONTINUING TO PROMOTE THE, THE IDEA OR THE CONCEPT OR THE VISION OF HOW DO WE TAKE THIS CORRIDOR, THIS SPECIAL PLACE IN THE MIDDLE OF DESOTO AND TURN THAT INTO A MIXED USE DESTINATION AREA FOR THE CITY.

THAT LED TO A 2019 ECONOMIC ASSESSMENT, UH, WHERE YOUR EDC CAME IN AND SAID, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL ECONOMIC VIABILITY OR FEASIBILITY OF DOING THIS, THIS, UH, THIS VISION.

SO THE ACCESS EXISTING CONDITIONS, HOUSING OFFICE AND RETAIL ENVIRONMENTS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

AND THEY IDENTIFIED A SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY FELT LAID OUT THE TRUE POTENTIAL OF WHAT THIS HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR COULD BE FOR THE CITY.

UH, THEY CALLED FOR, UH, INCREASING HEIGHT LIMITS ALONG THE, THE CORRIDOR, IMPROVING THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE AND THEN IDENTIFYING, ENCOURAGING MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

THEN THERE WAS A SEPARATE 2022 LAND USE STUDY

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AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS CONVERSATION, BRAD WILL KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THOSE SPECIFIC, THOSE THREE POINTS KIND OF TRANSLATED INTO THOSE THREE URBAN CENTERS THAT YOU SEE, UH, ALONG THE CORRIDOR, BUT THE MIXED USE DESTINATION HUBS PROTECTING THOSE UNIQUE NATURAL FEATURES, UH, THE HEALTH, THE, THE HEATH COMMONS, I'M SORRY, AND THEN THE BELTLINE VILLAGE AND THE SOUTHERN GATEWAY.

UH, AND THEN IN ORDER TO MOVE THIS CONVERSATION FORWARD EVEN MORE, UH, THE CITY MOVED FORWARD WITH THE 2022 TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS A TS.

THIS IS TS NUMBER TWO IN THE CITY THAT WAS ADOPTED, UH, BY CITY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER OF 2022.

AND IT ALLOWS FOR 162 MILLION IN INCREMENTAL REAL, REAL PROPERTY TAX VALUE TO BE COLLECTED IN PART OF FUTURE ASSESSED VALUES INSIDE THE CORRIDOR TO BE SPECIFICALLY REINVESTED BACK IN THE CORRIDOR TO CONTINUE WITH THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS TO TURN THIS INTO THAT DESTINATION AREA THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS.

BUT THOSE TAX INCREMENT DOLLARS, YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT WAS, UH, ALLOCATED FOR OR WHAT IT'S INTENDED TO BE FOR ON THE, IN INFOGRAPHIC ON THE RIGHT.

BUT THOSE INCREASED ASSESSMENTS AND TAX DOLLARS ARE INTENDED TO GO BACK TO THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE HAMPTON ROAD CORRIDOR.

ALSO, IN 2022, THERE WAS A, A 2022 STREETSCAPE MASTER PLAN FOCUSED ON LAYING OUT THAT VISION FOR INCREASING SAFETY, IMPROVED LANDSCAPING, THE QUALITY OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, KEEPING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WALKABILITY, AND THEN LAYING OUT THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT.

AND THIS LED TO SOME OF THE STREETSCAPE REQUIRE OR STREET STRAIGHT, UH, STREET SCAPE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE QUARTER RIGHT NOW IN DESIGN.

I'M GONNA TURN THAT OVER TO LENNY TO, INTO SOME OF THAT.

UH, THANK YOU MATT AGAIN, LENNY HUGHES, PRACTICE LEADER FOR HALF ASSOCIATES, AXE, TEXAS.

AND SO, AS MATT HAD MENTIONED BEFORE, UH, WE, WE FINISHED UP THE STREETSCAPE MATCH PLAN IN, UH, 2022.

UH, WITH THAT, WE HAD SEVERAL, UM, DIFFERENT ROADWAY, UH, AND STREETSCAPE CONFIGURATIONS, UH, LOOKING AT THE LINE FOR PEDESTRIAN, UH, AND, UH, BICYCLE ACCESS WIDE SIDEWALKS.

BUT A, A LARGE PART OF THE STUDY IS HOW DO WE LOOK AT, UH, SLOWING DOWN THE TRAFFIC WITHIN THE HAMPTON ROAD, UH, CORRIDOR AREA, UH, POSTED SPEED OR ANYWHERE FROM 40 TO 45 MILES AN HOUR.

BUT THEY'RE, WE ALL KNOW THEY'RE DRIVING MUCH, MUCH FASTER THAN THAT.

AND A LOT OF THE, THE INPUT THAT WE HAVE FROM CITIZENS STAKEHOLDERS, WE ALSO HAD A TECHNICAL ADVISOR COMMITTEE ATTACK, UH, AND ALSO MEETINGS WITH, UH, CITY COUNCIL.

EVERYONE'S DIVISION WANTS TO MAKE THIS A SAFE, WALKABLE, BIKEABLE, UH, DESTINATION BETWEEN THE AREAS OF, UM, A PLEASANT RUN AND, UH, AND BELTLINE ROAD ALONG HAMPTON.

SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE DEVELOPED SERIAL, UM, SEVERAL, UH, SCENARIOS.

UH, LOOKING AT THE CURRENT, UH, ROADWAY CROSS SECTION, WHICH IS A FOUR LANE, UH, DIVIDED, UH, WITH A MEDIAN, UH, BETWEEN THE AREA THERE, UH, THE PROPOSED CROSS SECTIONS LOOKED AT A THREE LANE, UH, WHICH WAS HAVING A CENTER TURN LANE.

ANOTHER OPTION WAS A TWO LANE MOTORWAY SECTION WITH A LANDSCAPE MEDIAN.

AND AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS, UH, VERY EXTENSIVE PROCESS, UH, LOOKING AT TRAFFIC COUNTS, UH, AND, AND LOOKING AT WHAT THE PROPOSED, UH, TRAFFIC PROJECTIONS WOULD BE IN THE AREA, UH, WE, WE FELT THAT THE LOT OF THE TRAFFIC THAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW WAS COMING FROM OUR, OUR NEIGHBORS FROM THE SOUTH.

AND SO THERE WAS BASICALLY A LOT OF PASS THROUGH TRAFFIC COMING IN FROM GLEN HEIGHTS, UM, UH, BYPASSING 35 AND DRIVING ALL THE WAY UP TO I 20.

AND SO, UH, WE LOOKED AT OUR, OUR, OUR OTHER PARALLEL, UH, NORTH SOUTH ROADWAY, SUCH AS WESTMORELAND AND POLK, UH, LOOKING AT THEIR CAPACITY ON THOSE, ON THOSE, UH, TWO, UH, UH, ROADWAY CORRIDORS ALSO, UH, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE PARKDALE ROAD, UH, GETS EXPANDED IN THE FUTURE, IT LIKES BEING PLANNED, AND AS WELL AS BELTLINE AND PROVIDING THAT EAST WEST, UH, CONNECTION OFF OF HAMPTON BACK OVER TO 35, OR BACK OVER TO, UH, POLK, OR OVER TO WESTMORELAND.

AND SO AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, UH, HAVING SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE, UH, TECHNICAL TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, CITIZENS, ALSO CITY COUNCIL, UH, WHAT YOU SEE IS THE APPROVED, UM, STREETSCAPE CONCEPT.

UH, THIS IS ON THE NORTH SIDE, UH, BASICALLY HAVING A THREE LANE, UH, CROSS SECTION, UH, WITH BIKE LANES ON THE, UH, INTERIOR WITH A, A WIDE, UH, SIDEWALK ON THE OUTSIDE.

UH, THIS CROSS SECTION, UH, IS FROM BELTLINE, I'M SORRY, FROM PLEASANT RUN ALL THE WAY UP, DOWN TO HEATH CREEK ON THE NORTH SIDE.

UH, THIS SECTION ALSO ALLOWS FOR A PARALLEL PARKING BECAUSE WE WANTED TO HAVE SOME, UH, UH, PARKING UP, TEASER PARKING UP FRONT WHILE STILL ALLOWING, UH, SOME MORE OF THE CONSOLIDATED, UH, PUBLIC PAC PARKING AND THEN BACK THERE.

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THIS IS THIS, UH, ROAD REQUEST SECTION AGAIN FROM PLEASANT RUN ON THE NORTH SIDE, EXTENDING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HEATH CREEK, WHERE WE HAVE THE THREE LANE, UH, CROSS SECTION, UH, THERE IN THAT AREA.

AS WE GET PAST, UH, HEATH CREEK, AND WE'RE MOVING SOUTHWARD TOWARDS BELTLINE, UH, THAT WOULD TRANSITION FROM A THREE LANE, UH, CROSS SECTION TO A TWO LANE, UH, WITH A DIVIDED, UH, MEDIAN LANDSCAPE MEDIAN IN THE AREA HERE.

WE WOULD REMOVE THE PARKING, UH, WE WOULD HAVE PARKING AGAIN, CONSOLIDATED, UH, IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS.

ALSO ALLOW FOR PARKING IN FRONT, AT LEAST SOME OF THE EARLIER CONCEPTS, BUT HAVING A WIDE, UH, UH, PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY WITH, UH, LANDSCAPING TO PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL BUFFER THERE.

SO SINCE THEN, UH, WE ARE NOW IN THE DESIGN PROCESS.

WE SUBMITTED, UM, 15% DESIGN, UH, WORKING WITH CITY, UM, ENGINEERING STAFF TO HELP PREPARE THOSE PLANS.

AND THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE, UH, CURRENTLY, UH, JUST PROVIDING A LITTLE BIT OF BACKUP.

UH, WE DID LOOK AT THE, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NORTHBOUND AND, UM, OTHER PARALLEL ROADWAYS WE'VE GOT ON THE, UH, EAST SIDE, WE HAVE POLK STREET, WHICH IS THIS BLUE HERE, 30 FIVES ON A FAR, UH, EASTERN BOUNDARY OF, OF DESOTO, UH, INNER CENTER THERE.

WE HAVE HAMPTON ROAD, AND, AND TO THE WEST WE HAVE WESTMORELAND.

UH, AGAIN, A LOT OF THAT, THAT TRAFFIC IS COMING FROM GUN HEIGHTS.

UM, AS WE START THE, UH, THE PROCESS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS, WE, WE, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN, AND THAT'S, THAT'S A GUARANTEED, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE THIS PURPOSEFUL AND INTENTIONAL TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN, TO ALLOW THAT SAFE, WALKABLE, LIKABLE ENVIRONMENT IN THAT AREA.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THOUGHT IS THIS IS NOT A PASS THROUGH.

WE WANT THE PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN ON THE CARS AND TO ACTUALLY GET OUT AND WALK AND BE ABLE TO VISIT THIS DESTINATION HERE.

WITH THAT SAID, UH, AGAIN, THE, THE TRAFFIC AS WE START TO HAVE SIGNAGE FOR AS RELIEVER ROUTES FOR PARKVILLE, AND AS WE GET UP TO THIS LITTLE AREA OF BELTLINE, UH, WE'RE WANTING THAT TRAFFIC TO GO OVER TO, UM, UH, TO POLK OR TO OVER TO, UM, WESTMORELAND.

CURRENTLY, UH, POLK, UH, HAS A CAPACITY ABOUT 44,000 TO 48,000 CARS A A DAY.

UH, CURRENTLY THERE'S ABOUT 8,000 CARS.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF EXCESS CAPACITY WITHIN THE AREA.

UH, SAME THING WITH, UM, UH, WESTMORELAND ON THE WEST SIDE.

UH, THERE'S ABOUT 14, UH, THOUSAND CAPACITY, AND THERE'S ROUGHLY ABOUT 7,000 CARS TRAFFIC RIGHT THERE ON THERE, ON THERE RIGHT NOW.

SO THE THOUGHT IS TO, TO DIVERT THIS TRAFFIC.

UH, IT'S THROUGH SIGNAGE, BUT ALSO THROUGH, UH, ONCE THEY START CONSTRUCTION, UH, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO KIND OF TAKE THE PATH OF LEASE RESISTANCE, UH, WITHIN AN AREA AND, AND, AND LOOK AT THOSE ALTERNATE ROUTES, UM, TO, UH, POLK STREET OR WESTMORELAND.

UH, AND SO THAT'S BEEN THE DISCUSSION, UH, IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, UH, WITH, WITH STAFF, UM, AND WITH COUNCIL.

UH, THIS WAS ADOPTED IN, UH, MARCH OF 2022.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE, AGAIN, THE DESIGN PHASE OF THAT.

SO AT THIS POINT, I'D GIVE OVER TO YOU.

UM, BACK OVER TO MATT.

ALRIGHT, YOU LENNY.

ALRIGHT, ALL THAT TO SAY, WHAT ARE WE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT? UH, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT THAT'S BEFORE YOU, UH, ON THE, ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.

AND THAT IS TO, UH, MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON AMENDING THE TEXT TO CREATE THIS CHARACTER CODE WITHIN THE CITY OF DESOTO.

SO WHAT IS A CHARACTER CODE, AS WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IN SOME OF THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS? UH, IT IS A, IT'S A CHARACTER BASED ZONING FRAMEWORK.

A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS TODAY.

UH, A LOT OF THE OLD ZONING CODES ACROSS THE, THE US OR EUCLIDEAN ZONE, UH, EUCLIDEAN ZONING DISTRICT BASED, THEY'RE REALLY JUST REALLY A SEPARATION OF LAND USE.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CHARACTER BASED CODE.

WE'RE DIVING INTO MORE DETAIL THAT CREATES MORE OF A PREDICTIVE END RESULT OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT TO ACHIEVE CERTAIN DIFFERENT AREAS OF CHARACTER.

SO YOU'RE REALLY, UH, LOOKING AT A FEW THINGS.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOW DOES THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY INTERSECT WITH WHAT'S BEING PLANNED AND DESIGNED ON THE, WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

IT'S NOT JUST HAVING, UH, IT HAS COURT HAS HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS JUST LIKE OUR EXISTING ZONING DOES, BUT THEN ALSO GETS INTO MORE OF THE SCALE OF BUILDINGS, THE MASSING OF BUILDINGS, WHERE THOSE BUILDINGS ARE ON SITE, WHERE PARKING CAN BE ON SITE, WHAT ARE THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, THINGS OF THAT SORT.

AND OF COURSE, SIGNAGE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS ALL IN ALL SYSTEMS, BUT IT, IT GETS INTO MORE DETAILS OF THE LANDSCAPING, THE PROVISIONS TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE CREATING ACTIVATED STREET SCAPES.

UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT DIMENSIONS AND METRICS OF FACADES AND TRANSPARENCY, THINGS THAT CREATE A SENSE OF COMFORT AS PEOPLE ARE WALKING UP AND DOWN THE STREETS.

UH, OF COURSE IT'S CALLING

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FOR THE MIXTURE OF USES, UH, AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT TO, TO ACTUALLY CREATE A CERTAIN INTENDED CHARACTER OF ENVIRONMENT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO BRAD TO WALK THROUGH THE ACTUAL CODE PROVISIONS.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

BRAD JOHNSON LIVE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, AND WITH HALF ASSOCIATES, UH, AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL.

I THINK THIS VISION IS ABOUT MAKING A DESTINATION DISTRICT WITHIN DESOTO, NOT JUST FOR DESOTO, BUT EVEN FOR THE REGION.

IT'S ABOUT A WALKABLE, MIXED USE, UH, ENVIRONMENT THAT BECOMES A PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN LIVE, WORK IN PLAY TO USE A, AN OFTEN USED, UH, CLICHE.

BUT, UM, ONE THAT IS RELEVANT IN THIS CASE THAT'S FLANKED BY AN INTERCONNECTED STREET NETWORK.

CREATING BLOCKS THAT ARE WALKABLE AND BROKEN DOWN, UH, TO A HUMAN SCALE INTERWOVEN THROUGH THE, THAT DISTRICT, I THINK CREATING GREAT, VIBRANT PUBLIC SPACES FOR, UH, FRIENDS AND FAMILIES TO GATHER AND PUSHING FOR INNOVATIVE, INNOVATIVE INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTIONS AND DEVELOPMENT.

UM, GREAT MOBILITY FOR ALL TYPES OF USERS, UH, WITHIN THIS ENVIRONMENT.

AND PUSHING FOR DESIGN EXCELLENCE, UM, AND ARCHITECTURE AND, AND SITE DESIGN.

AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, UH, WHEN YOU GET INTO THE DOCUMENT BEYOND THAT HIGH LEVEL VISION, UH, YOU'LL SEE A BREAKDOWN FOR EACH OF THE ZONE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDES TONIGHT.

UH, AND WHAT IS THE INTENT FOR EACH OF THOSE DISTRICTS? UH, AT A HIGH LEVEL, WHAT ARE THE LAND USE MIXES THAT ARE TRYING TO BE ACHIEVED THERE BY THE DETAILS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE ACTUAL CODE.

AND THERE YOU SEE THE ZONING DISTRICTS, UH, ON A MAP, OF COURSE, JUST THE TEXT AMENDMENT IS WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, BUT IT'S WHAT OF COURSE, UH, RELEVANT TO, TO CONSIDER THE MAP, UM, AS WELL, UH, AND UNDERSTAND THE INTENT THERE AS AS TO WHERE IT WOULD BE MAPPED AND COME BACK TO YOU IN A FUTURE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I'LL JUST QUICKLY WALK THROUGH THE, THE FIVE DISTRICTS.

THE URBAN CENTER IS THE HIGHEST DENSITY, MOST INTENSE, PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED SORT OF DOWNTOWN FEELING DISTRICT, IF YOU WILL, UH, WITHIN THE FIVE ZONING DISTRICTS.

YOU SEE IT, UH, AT, AT THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE, SORRY, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, THERE, IT'S AT THE SOUTHERN END THERE AT THE MAIN INTERSECTION ALSO UP HERE, CLOSE TO WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN ANOTHER ONE RIGHT THERE IN THE CENTER.

UM, THAT'S THE AREA WHERE THE TALLEST BUILDING HEIGHTS WOULD BE ALLOWED UP TO FIVE STORIES IN HEIGHT.

UH, THE USES THAT ARE TARGETED, THERE ARE MIXED USE LIKE VERTICAL MIXED USE, UH, BUILDINGS WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE A RETAIL OR A RESTAURANT IN THE GROUND FLOOR WITH, UH, OFFICES OR, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNITS ABOVE OFFICE BUILDINGS, APARTMENT BUILDINGS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THE URBAN GENERAL IS VERY SIMILAR IN TRYING TO ACHIEVE THAT VERY PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED ENVIRONMENT.

UM, BUT IT IS A LOWER IN SCALE.

SO YOU SEE THAT UP TO THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT.

SO IT DROPS DOWN TWO STORIES FROM THAT URBAN CENTER DISTRICT.

IT IS APPLIED TO MANY OF THOSE AREAS ALONG HAMPTON ROAD, BUT AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY ALREADY DEVELOPED, WHEREAS A LOT OF THOSE, UM, OF THOSE PURPLE AREAS, SOME OF THOSE ARE, ARE SOME OF THE VACANT SITES AS WELL THAT ARE PRIME FOR REDEVELOPMENT.

LAND USE IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WITH MIXED USE STOREFRONTS, UH, OFFICE BUILDINGS, AND A HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

UH, LAND USES A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES IS THAT SORT OF TEAL LIGHT BLUE COLOR THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP.

IT'S SORT OF AT THE PERIPHERY AREAS OF THE, THE, THE HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE AREA THAT'S THE MOST SIMILAR TO LIKE A TYPICAL, UH, SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR DEVELOPMENT CHARACTER THAT YOU MIGHT SEE ALLOWING MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR THE LOCATION OF PARKING.

SO THINK, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE IN THESE PICTURES AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE, BUT EVEN LIKE A, A STANDALONE WALGREENS, FOR EXAMPLE, OR OTHER, OTHER TYPE OF SINGLE USE ON A SITE LIKE THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, UH, BY THE CODE, UH, IN THIS AREA.

AND MORE FLEXIBILITY WHERE PARKING CAN BE LOCATED.

SO YOU COULD HAVE SOME LIMITED AMOUNT OF PARKING BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE STREET FRONTAGE STILL ARE AN ENHANCED LEVEL OF DESIGN REQUIREMENTS RELATIVE TO THE EXISTING CODE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHERE THERE IS PARKING UP NEXT TO THE STREET, THAT IT'S SCREENED AND THAT PARKING LOTS ARE, UH, BROKEN DOWN WITH LANDSCAPED AREAS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THE URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT, SO THAT'S THE KIND OF GOLD COLOR ON THE MAP, IS REALLY, UH, TARGETED TO BECOME AN ALMOST LIKE AN URBAN HIGH DENSITY URBAN APARTMENT DISTRICT.

UM, WOULD ALLOW, UH, HIGH DENSITY FOUR STORY, UH, APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND DOWN TO, UH, UH, TOWNHOUSES, UH, SMALLER MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THAT

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WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE AS WELL.

UM, BUT THE IDEA IS REALLY IS THAT IT'S A HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, AND YOU SEE IT SORT OF FLANKS SOME OF THOSE PURPLE AREAS, THOSE URBAN CENTER AREAS PROVIDING A SYNERGY BETWEEN THE HIGHEST RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AREAS AND THOSE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE EXPECTED TO BE, BE A DESTINATION, UH, AND AN ACTIVITIES SUCH AS RETAIL RESTAURANTS AND OTHER THINGS THAT THOSE TWO USES REALLY WORK TOGETHER IN THAT WAY.

AND THEN THE LAST IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION.

THAT'S THE AREA SHOWN IN RED.

AND WHAT THAT'S INTENDED FOR IS TO REALLY PROVIDE A TRANSITION IN SCALE AND CHARACTER FROM THESE MORE URBAN DISTRICTS THAT I'VE BEEN DESCRIBING TO THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY AREAS BEYOND THIS AREA.

UM, SO FOCUSING MORE ON SINGLE UNIT, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, DUPLEXES, SMALLER, UH, TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS, UH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS OF THAT SCALE.

AND AS YOU GET FURTHER INTO THE CODE, BEYOND THE DISTRICT INTENT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE REGULATIONS FOR LAND USES JUST LIKE IN THE CODE TODAY, BUT, UH, THAT YOU, YOU GUYS WORK WITH.

BUT A NEW SET OF LAND USES PUSHING FOR THAT WALKABLE MIX OF LAND USES ADDRESSING BOTH PRIMARY, THE, THE PRIMARY USES ON A SITE AS WELL AS ACCESSORY USES AND EVEN TEMPORARY USES THAT MIGHT COME INTO PLAY.

UH, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR BUILD TWO.

AND SO THAT'S A WAY OF SAYING, TRYING TO CREATE THAT, UH, BUILDING EDGE OR STREET WALL ALONG SOME OF THE STREETS THAT PROVIDES A, A SENSE OF ENCLOSURE TO THE STREET THAT MAKES IT A COMFORTABLE PLACE TO WALK.

AS YOU SEE IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH HERE, I WILL POINT OUT THAT YOU'LL SEE THESE LITTLE SLIDING SCALES AT THE BOTTOM OF THESE SLIDES AND WHAT THOSE REPRESENT, EACH OF THOSE DOTS IS ONE OF THOSE ZONE DISTRICTS THAT I MENTIONED.

SO URBAN CENTER, URBAN GENERAL, IN THIS CASE, URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, NEIGHBORHOOD TRANSITION AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

AND THEY'RE INTENDING TO KIND OF SHOW GENERALLY ON A SCALE OF REALLY IMPORTANT OR LESS IMPORTANT KIND OF WHERE EACH OF THOSE DISTRICTS FALLS IN TERMS OF THE INTENT OF THE CODE.

UH, THE NEXT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS SURFACE PARKING BETWEEN A BUILDING AND A PRIMARY STREET.

AND SO THAT'S SAYING, UH, THAT ALONG THOSE REALLY IMPORTANT PRIMARY STREETS IN SOME OF THESE DISTRICTS, YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO HAVE SURFACE PARKING BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE STREET.

AGAIN, TRYING TO CREATE THAT SYNERGY AND, UH, ACTIVE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED FRONTAGES WHERE THE BUILDING AND THE PEDESTRIAN REALM ARE WORKING IN TANDEM TO CREATE A WALKABLE DISTRICT, UH, SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SURFACE PARKING LOTS, THAT THEY MUST BE SET BACK A CERTAIN AMOUNT FROM THOSE PRIMARY STREETS WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE WALKING DOWN SIDEWALKS, UH, MAXIMUMS ON THE DIMENSIONS OF BUILDINGS SO THAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING OVERLY LARGE REALLY LONG BUILDINGS THAT WHERE THERE'S NO BREAK, UM, TO ALLOW FOR POROSITY, UM, FOR A PEDESTRIAN TO PASS THROUGH OR ACCESS TO LIGHT AND AIR, UH, TO PREVENT THOSE KIND OF MONOTONOUS, NEVER ENDING, UH, STREET WALLS IF WE HAVE LONG BLOCKS IN CERTAIN CASES, UH, REQUIREMENTS IN SOME DISTRICTS FOR A MINIMUM GROUND STORY HEIGHT.

SO THAT'S TRYING TO CREATE A, A, A GENEROUS GROUND FLOOR HEIGHT THAT IS ACCOMMODATING OF THOSE SORTS OF PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED USES, LIKE A RETAIL OR A RESTAURANT.

AND PROVIDING THAT, UH, PROMINENT GROUND FLOOR SPACE THAT REALLY CREATES A BUNCH OF VISUAL INTEREST, UH, AND ACTIVITY AND ACTIVITY GENERATING USES FOR, UH, THE PUBLIC STREET FRONTAGE.

UPPER STORY STEPBACK.

SO I MENTIONED THERE IS THE ONE DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS UP TO FIVE STORIES IN HEIGHT.

AND SO THIS, THIS RULE REALLY ONLY COMES INTO PLAY IN THE, UH, URBAN CENTER DISTRICT.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE HERE WE'RE SHOWING THREE STORIES UP, BUT AFTER THAT THIRD STORY, YOU HAVE TO MODULATE THAT, UH, FOURTH AND FIFTH STORY.

SO PUSHING THAT, UH, BUILDING VOLUME BACK FROM THE, THE STREET, UH, STREET FRONTAGE AS YOU SEE ALSO IN THIS CROSS SECTION OVER HERE.

SO THAT'S MEANT TO BREAK DOWN THAT MASS, SO IT'S NOT A SHEER WALL, RIGHT UP FIVE STORIES AT THE STREET FRONTAGE.

SO WHEN YOU'RE DOWN THERE ON THE STREET, YOU'RE LOOKING UP AT THE BUILDING, YOU REALLY, IN MOST CASES WITH THAT UPPER LEVEL BEING SET BACK, YOU'RE KIND OF, IT'S GONNA APPEAR FROM THE GROUND ALMOST LIKE A THREE STORY BUILDING, EVEN THOUGH IN REALITY THERE ARE SECTIONS OF IT THAT ARE UP TO FIVE, UH, PUSHING FOR PRIMARY STREET FACING ENTRIES.

SO AGAIN, TRYING TO CREATE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND THE PUBLIC STREET TO CREATE THAT LEVEL OF ACTIVITY AND ALSO PROVIDE VISUAL INTEREST AND A RHYTHM OF, OF ENTRIES AND DOORS AS ONE WALKS DOWN, UH, STREETS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

UH, THIS IS ABOUT, UH, UM, SETTING A MAXIMUM FOR THE DISTANCE BETWEEN ENTRIES SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE, UM, UH, HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF FEET WITHOUT AN ENTRY TO A BUILDING.

IF YOU HAVE A VERY LONG BUILDING, EVERY SO NUMBER OF FEET, THERE SHALL BE A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE'S A, A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE ENTRY THAT FACES THE STREET.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT

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ONE IS ABOUT.

AGAIN, CREATING THAT RHYTHM OF ENTRIES, UH, REQUIRING, UH, A LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY OR WINDOWS ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF BUILDINGS.

AS WE SEE IN MOST OF OUR MOST SUCCESSFUL MAIN STREET DISTRICTS, DOWNTOWN DISTRICTS, YOU SEE THAT THERE'S THIS VISUAL ABILITY TO SEE FROM THE SIDEWALK.

IF YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE STREET INTO THE BUILDING, SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THE STORE IS OFFERING.

THERE'S DISPLAY WINDOWS AS YOU SEE IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH HERE.

SO REQUIRING A MINIMUM PERCENTAGE FOR SOME DISTRICTS FOR, FOR THE PERCENTAGE OF THAT GROUND FLOOR.

THAT SHOULD BE, UH, TRANSPARENT WINDOWS FOR LARGER BUILDINGS, UH, REQUIRING THAT LARGER MASSES OF BUILDINGS BE BROKEN DOWN INTO MORE SMALLER, UH, HUMAN SCALE COMPONENTS THROUGH A FACADE ARTICULATION, UH, METHODS LIKE THESE WHERE YOU ESTABLISHING, UM, A A A BREAKING DOWN OF THAT BUILDING MASS, UM, WITH DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES, WHETHER IT'S ACCENT LINES, VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL CHANGES IN THE MATERIAL ALONG THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING.

UH, CHANGES IN COLOR OR SMALL RECESSES OF THE WALL OF THE BUILDING AS YOU SEE IN THIS LAST EXAMPLE ON THE RIGHT, OR IN SOME CASES MAYBE ACTUAL VARIATION IN THE VOLUME OF THE BUILDING ENVELOPE.

AND SO THAT COULD BE DONE IN A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS BY ESTABLISHING AN INCREASED SETBACK AT A CORNER OF A BUILDING, FOR EXAMPLE, TO PROVIDE A SMALL PLAZA SPACE VARYING THE HEIGHT OF A BUILDING ALONG ITS, UH, LENGTH, OR AGAIN, UTILIZING THAT UPPER STORY STEP BACK TO BREAK DOWN THE MASS OF, OF A BUILDING AS WELL.

UH, IN TERMS OF PUBLIC STREET DESIGN, UM, THIS IS RELATED TO THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF PUBLIC STREETS, SHOULD A DEVELOPER COME ALONG AND CONSTRUCT A NEW STREET.

SO IDENTIFYING MINIMUM MAXIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR SIDEWALKS AND STREET TREES ON STREET PARKING, OTHER ELEMENTS LIKE THAT THAT SHOW UP WITHIN, UH, THE ACTUAL STREET, UH, STREET RIGHT OF WAY, UH, ADDRESSING VEHICLE ACCESS IN DRIVEWAYS.

SO THIS IS A, I JUST PICKED OUT A SMALL PIECE OF THE CORRIDOR HERE, AND I WENT QUICKLY AND TRIED TO IDENTIFY EVERYWHERE WHERE THERE WAS A VEHICLE ENTRY RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S BELT LINE DOWN HERE.

AND I WENT, I DON'T KNOW, SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET UP.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE HUGE NUMBER OF ENTRIES.

SO EVERY ONE OF THOSE ENTRIES IS WHERE PEOPLE CAN DRIVE IN AND DRIVE OUT FROM ANY OF THESE SITES.

AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE THAT CONDITION, AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS A WALKABLE CORRIDOR, AND I'M TRYING TO WALK UP AND DOWN THAT CORRIDOR IN THE FUTURE, THOSE KIND OF VEHICLE MOVEMENTS MAKE IT VERY CHALLENGING FOR ME TO WALK IN AND MAKE IT AN UNSAFE PLACE BECAUSE OF ALL THE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS THAT CAN ARISE FROM THAT.

AND SO THIS SECTION OF THE CODE TRIES TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS IT TRIES TO NECK DOWN WHERE THERE IS A DRIVEWAY, UM, THE WIDTH OF THAT ACCESS POINT TO TRY TO PREVENT AND REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CONFLICTS, UM, THAT I JUST DESCRIBED.

UH, ONE OF THE KEY ELEMENTS IN THE CODE IS THAT WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AND WE SAW THAT ON THE MAP WHEN WE PRESENTED TO YOU LAST TIME, THERE'S A SET OF TERTIARY, SECONDARY, AND PRIMARY STREETS IDENTIFIED.

AND WHAT THE CODE SAYS IS THAT YOUR FIRST CHOICE IF YOU COME IN WITH A DEVELOPMENT, IS TO TAKE ACCESS FROM A TERTIARY STREET OR AN ALLEY IF THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE OR NOT POSSIBLE.

YOUR SECOND OPTION IS TO TAKE IT FROM A SECONDARY STREET AS IDENTIFIED IN THE REGULATING PLAN.

THAT MAP I SHOWED.

UM, AND THE LAST RESORT REALLY IS TO TAKE IT FROM A PRIMARY STREET, AND WE ONLY WANNA SEE THAT WHERE THERE'S NO OTHER OPTION.

SO AGAIN, UH, TRYING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE CROSSINGS AND ACCESS POINTS FROM, UH, HAMPTON ROAD IN THIS CASE.

UH, AND ALSO PUSHING FOR INTER PARCEL, UH, ACCESS AS WELL.

SO IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY BEFORE PROVIDING ACCESS FROM, FROM A PRIMARY STREET, IS THERE A WAY THAT A NEIGHBOR, UH, NEIGHBORING PROPERTY COULD, UM, POTENTIALLY PROVIDE ACCESS FOR A NEW DEVELOPING PROPERTY, UH, BEFORE PROVIDING IT FROM HAMPTON ROAD? UH, YOU'LL SEE REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE FOR OFF STREET PARKING.

MOST OF THE TIME IT'S A MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, OF, OF THE PROPOSED USE.

IT WORKS IN TANDEM WITH THE USE REQUIREMENTS THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

IN CERTAIN CASES WHERE THERE'S, UH, USES THAT WE KNOW SOMETIMES CAN RESULT IN JUST MASSIVE PARKING LOTS, UM, THAT ARE RARELY USED, UH, WE DO HAVE MAXIMUM, UH, REQUIREMENTS IN THERE AS WELL.

UH, WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS IN THERE FOR LIGHTING, BOTH TO ENSURE THAT LIGHTING IS PROVIDED FOR THE SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS ON A SITE, BUT ALSO TO ENSURE THAT WHERE LIGHTING IS PROVIDED THAT IT'S NOT SPILLING OVER ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.

UH, OFTENTIMES THEY'RE RELATED TO THE DESIGN OF PARKING LOTS, BOTH SCREENING PARKING AREAS FROM PUBLIC STREETS, BUT ALSO ENSURING THAT THERE ARE

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LANDSCAPED AREAS BREAKING DOWN LARGE SURFACE PARKING LOTS AS WELL.

AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, PROVIDING PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THROUGH THOSE PARKING LOT AREAS AS WELL BETWEEN, UH, SURFACE PARKING LOT AND A BUILDING, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR TRANSITIONS AND SCREENING.

AND SOME OF THAT COMES INTO PLAY WHERE YOU HAVE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS ABUTTING ONE ANOTHER.

SO REQUIRING WALLS OR DIFFERENT, UH, STREET, UH, TREES OR SHRUBS OR OTHER THINGS TO PROVIDE, UH, UH, A TRANSITION BETWEEN USES.

UH, ALSO REQUIREMENTS FOR FENCES AND WALLS.

SOMETIMES THAT'S A MAXIMUM ALLOWANCE FOR HOW TALL A FENCE CAN BE.

THAT'S A PRIVACY FENCE BETWEEN TWO PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT BE LIKE A SIX FOOT OR, OR TALLER FENCE.

SOMETIMES IT'S TRYING TO SET THAT, UH, REQUIREMENT LOWER THAT A, THAT A MAXIMUM, UH, ALLOWANCE FOR A FENCE MIGHT ONLY BE THREE OR FOUR FEET TALL.

WHERE THAT COMES INTO PLAY IS, SAY AGAIN, RIGHT ALONG THOSE MAIN STREETS.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT A TALL FENCE, UM, BLOCKING THE VIEW FROM THE STOREFRONTS TO THE PUBLIC REALM FROM THE SIDEWALK.

AND SO IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A FENCE ALONG THAT TYPE OF AN AREA, WE WANT THAT TO BE DOWN AT THREE, THREE FEET OR LESS IN MOST CASES.

UH, THE CODE SETS, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR SIGNAGE, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

'CAUSE WHEN SIGNAGE IS DONE BADLY, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, IT CAN GET VERY CLUTTERY AND MESSY, UM, AND, AND AND REALLY MESS UP THE VISUAL CHARACTER OF A BUILDING.

SO THE CODE SETS, UH, ALLOWANCES FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF SIGNAGE THAT CAN OCCUR WITHIN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.

UH, AND IT ALSO HAS DESIGN REQUIREMENTS BOTH FOR THE ALLOWANCE OF THE AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE, BUT ALSO DESIGN ELEMENTS LIKE HOW BIG A SIGN CAN BE OR HOW TALL IT CAN BE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR A MONUMENT SIGN.

SO THAT'LL BE ADDRESSED IN THERE.

WE TALKED ABOUT AT, UH, QUITE A BIT IN OUR LAST MEETING WITH YOU ABOUT PRIMARY COLORS, UH, AND SETTING A, A, A PALETTE FOR THE PRIMARY COLORS WITH AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS FLEXIBILITY WITHIN A RANGE OF ALL OF THESE COLORS.

WE DID ADD A RED TONE THERE TO ALLOW FOR BRICK, UH, BRICK CLADDING SINCE WE LAST MET WITH YOU.

UM, SO THAT TONE IS ALLOWED IF YOU'RE USING BRICK CLADDING.

WE ALSO ADDED A SECONDARY PALETTE, AGAIN, WITH, WITH FLEXIBILITY, UM, TO GO A LITTLE BIT DARKER, A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER THAN THESE TONES SHOWED THERE.

UM, THAT CAN BE USED IN A, TO A LESSER EXTENT, ON, ON THE BUILDING.

WE HAD A LOT OF GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS LAST TIME AND IT WAS KIND OF STUCK IN MY BRAIN.

SO WHEN I WAS WALKING AROUND DIFFERENT CITIES THAT I'VE BEEN IN SINCE WE LAST TALKED, I WAS LOOKING AROUND TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHETHER THIS COLOR PALETTE WOULD WORK FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT I WAS SEEING, THAT I FELT WAS IN THE CHARACTER OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE AFTER HERE.

AND I FELT IN MOST CASES THEY WERE HITTING IT, ESPECIALLY WITH ALLOWING THIS, THIS EXTRA ALLOWANCE FOR BRICK.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS I SAW TOOK A PICTURE OF LAST WEEKEND THAT I FELT WAS, WAS HITTING RIGHT WITHIN THE COLOR PALETTE THAT WE'RE ALLOWING HERE.

UH, LAST SECTION OF THE CODE THAT YOU'LL SEE ARE SECOND TO LAST, I SUPPOSE, IS, IS ON ADMINISTRATION.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE RULES OF MEASUREMENT ARE.

THERE'S INTENT LANGUAGE ABOUT WHAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN HERE IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

UH, THERE'S INFORMATION FOR THE PLANNING DIRECTOR ABOUT HOW TO INTERPRET SOME OF THESE RULES AND PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY IN CERTAIN CASES WHERE THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

THERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF THE BUILDING TYPES.

LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE WERE ADMINISTRATIVE ADJUSTMENTS.

IT'S CALLED OUT WITHIN THIS SECTION.

WE HAVE RENAMED THOSE AS MATT DISCUSSED TO MINOR ADJUSTMENTS AND REQUIRED THAT THOSE COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW.

SO THAT WAS ANOTHER KEY CHANGE IN THIS SECTION THAT WE MADE.

I TALKED THE LAST TIME ABOUT HOW WE, UH, HAVE A SECTION THAT'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BUILDING MATERIALS.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SET SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT BECAUSE OF STATE STATUTE, BUT WE DID ESTABLISH A CLEAR LIST OF, OF RECOMMENDED MATERIALS THAT WE KNOW TO BE SUCCESSFUL AS BUILDING MATERIALS HERE IN TEXAS.

AND, UH, TO STAND THE TEST OF TIME.

UH, WE ALSO IDENTIFY A LIST OF MATERIALS THAT WOULD NOT BE PREFERRED.

UH, DEVELOPER WOULDN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO FOLLOW THOSE 'CAUSE THEY'RE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS AS LONG AS THEY BUILD, MEET BUILDING CODE.

UM, THEY WOULD JUST BE ENCOURAGED.

THEY COULD COME INTO PLAY IF THE CITY WAS ENTERING INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE THEY WERE NEGOTIATING A, A DEAL, UH, FOR A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD GIVE A CITY A, THIS CITY A TOOL TO, UH, BRING INTO THOSE NE NEGOTIATIONS.

UM, SOME PREFERENCES FOR BUILDING MATERIALS POTENTIALLY.

UH, BESTER MENTIONED THAT, UH, WE WERE HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO FOR A FEW DAYS, PRETTY MUCH CAMPED OUT IN THIS ROOM.

HERE'S A COUPLE OF PICTURES WHERE WE WERE MEETING WITH PEOPLE.

WE HAD BOARDS UP DESCRIBING DIFFERENT ELEMENTS, UH, OF THE CODE.

WE GAVE PRESENTATIONS.

UM, WE SAT DOWN IN SOME CASES AND HAD ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS WITH PEOPLE WHERE THEY WERE WONDERING, UH, ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANT FOR THEIR PROPERTY OR HOW, HOW THEIR PROPERTY WAS CITED, UH, RELATIVE TO SOME OF THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.

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UH, AND SO ALL DAY HERE ON FEBRUARY 1ST, UH, HALF DAY HERE, UH, FEBRUARY 2ND, AND THEN THERE WAS A, A MEETING SATURDAY MORNING AS WELL FROM NINE TO 11, UH, THAT FOLKS CAME TO.

AND I THINK IN TOTAL, I DON'T HAVE A PRECISE COUNT, BUT I, MY MY ESTIMATE IS THAT SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF, UH, PROBABLY 75 TO 85 PEOPLE, I'M GUESSING WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, TALKED TO OVER THOSE THREE DAYS, UH, ABOUT THE CODE PROPOSAL.

AND THEN LAST SLIDE, I THINK IT IS, UH, ON ADOPTION SCHEDULE.

WE'RE HERE TO DENY, OF COURSE, FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TEXT AMENDMENT.

UH, THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY DOING A PRESENTATION, UH, WITH THEM NEXT WEEK.

JUST KIND OF A A, AN UPDATE AS WE DID WITH YOU, UH, BACK IN JANUARY, THE CITY COUNCIL IF YOU RECOMMEND, UH, WELL, I THINK EITHER WAY, BUT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD, WOULD HEAR THE TEXT AMENDMENT IS SLATED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 5TH.

AND THEN WE'D BE COMING BACK TO YOU TENTATIVELY FOR A, A TEXT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE MAP AMENDMENT.

SO TO APPLY THE NEW ZONING DISTRICTS TO THE PROPERTIES ON MARCH 26TH.

AND THEN CITY COUNCIL HEARING ON THAT, THAT SAME MAP AMENDMENT, UH, FOR APRIL 2ND.

SO THAT'S THE TENTATIVE SCHEDULE THAT WE'VE GOT AHEAD OF US.

I THINK THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE.

UH, HONORABLE CHAIRPERSON, HONORABLE COMMISSION MEMBERS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR EITHER THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM HALF OR THE STAFF? ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? ALRIGHT, I MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS LATER, BUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO NOW, IT IS 8 0 3.

THANK YOU SIR.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE TIME TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, UH, ANY INTERESTED PARTY WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD, EITHER IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORWARD.

UH, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES, UH, TO STATE YOUR OPINION.

AND SIR, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE PLEASE.

MY NAME IS BARRY GORDON.

I'M RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE.

ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD SIR.

I SAT THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PRESENTATION ON FEBRUARY THE FIRST, AND I ASKED SOME QUESTIONS OF THE CONSULTANTS.

SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED TONIGHT, SOME OF 'EM WERE NOT.

ONE OF 'EM WAS ABOUT THE INCLUSION OF A TOURS.

IT WAS IN THE PACKET, IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THEIR PRESENTATION.

SO I'M PLEASED TO SEE TONIGHT THAT THE TOUR WAS INCLUDED IN THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION.

MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS PRESENTATION IS PRESENT.

CONTENT FORM DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY, NOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THE TRUE IMPACT OF THIS.

AND THAT GOES TO THEIR URBAN CENTER.

MY FOCUS IS ON THE U ON THE UC AT THE URBAN CENTER.

I ASKED THE QUESTION OF THE CONSULTANTS WHEN I WAS HERE ON FEBRUARY 1ST, WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES ONCE THE URBAN CENTER IS BUILT ON RESIDENCES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE UC? THE ANSWER WAS THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW.

WELL, I THINK YOU DESERVE AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

AND THE CITIZENS THAT OWN HOUSES ADJACENT TO THE UC NEED TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THAT YOU DIRECT THIS, THESE CONSULTANTS DO A STUDY OF WHERE THIS UC HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED, WHERE ELSE IN THE UNITED STATES, AND WHAT IS THE PROPERTY IMPACTS ON THOSE AND THAT WHAT ARE THE RENTAL RATES OF THOSE APARTMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE BUILT IN THE UC, LOW OR HIGH.

IT'S GOING TO DIRECTLY AFFECT THE IMPACT OF WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH RENTAL RATES ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND ON THE RESIDENTS AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT THIS CITY UNDERSTAND THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUTURE MAY BE IN TERMS OF WHAT THIS COUNCIL, THIS COMMISSIONER, AND WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY DO IN TERMS OF FUTURE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE UC.

BECAUSE LOOKING AT IT, IF IT'S VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL, MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE, SIX YEARS FROM NOW, SOMEBODY'S SAY, WELL, WHY DON'T WE BUY ALL THOSE HOUSES AND EXPAND THE UC? I THINK YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER THAT QUESTION OR MAYBE HAVE THE CONSULTANTS DO A LITTLE MORE STUDY TO COME UP WITH AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR CURRENT PEOPLE THAT OWN THOSE HOMES AND LIVE IN THOSE HOMES TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE MIGHT BE.

SO PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER VERY, VERY QUICKLY IN THE THREE MINUTES THAT I HAVE, I THINK THAT THERE'S A LITTLE MORE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND IN DUE DILIGENCE FOR THIS COMMISSION BEFORE IT GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THAT SOME QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ASKED OF THESE CONSULTANTS TO DO A LITTLE MORE STUDY TO COME UP WITH SOME QUANTIFIED DATA ON WHAT THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE.

IT, YES, IT'S WALKABILITY, IT'S PROFITABILITY, BUT THOSE PRETTY PICTURES ON SLIDES 15 AND 18 OF WHAT YOU EVEN SEE HERE, WHAT ARE THOSE PEOPLE GOING TO BE DOING? THEY, THEY SPECIFICALLY SAID UC IS HIGH DENSITY.

HIGH DENSITY.

THAT MEANS HIGH DENSITY.

THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE.

SO YOU HAVE RETAIL ON THE BOTTOM, YOU HAVE APARTMENTS ON THE TOP, AND THE HIGH DENSITY MEANS THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THOSE APARTMENTS.

WHAT ARE THE RENTAL RATES GOING TO BE? WHAT COULD THE FUTURE IMPACT BE ON THE CURRENT RESIDENCES THAT LIVE ADJACENT TO THE URBAN CENTER? I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE DUE DILIGENCE ON YOUR PART TO ASK A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION

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TO BE INCLUDED BEFORE IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU MR. GORDON.

AND YOU SUBMITTED A COMMON CARD FOR THE RECORD, UH, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.

ARE YOU IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? I'M IN AN OPPOSITION TO IT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

MR. RAVEN, UH, I DIDN'T QUITE GET HIS NAME AND HIS CITY OF RESIDENCE.

COULD YOU GIVE THAT TO ME PLEASE? UH, MR. BARRY GORDON FROM DUNCANVILLE.

IS THAT CORRECT? ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, EITHER IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? I'LL ASK ONE MORE TIME.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN ATTENDANCE WHO'D LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, EITHER IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? YES, MA'AM.

COME FORWARD.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES IF YOU'LL JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE.

HELLO, I'M D LORD.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

UM, I LIVE IN ROCKWELL.

EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND.

I I LIVE IN ROCKWELL, TEXAS, BUT I HAVE A HOME ON SPINNER CIRCLE DRIVE OUT HERE.

UH, WHAT I DID NOT SEE FROM THE PRESENTERS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE HOMES HERE.

UM, SOME OF THE HOMES ARE GONNA BE GREATLY AFFECTED.

NONE OF THAT WAS PUT UP THERE.

IT ALL HAD THE PRETTY PICTURES AND EVERYTHING, BUT IT DID NOT SHOW YOUR CURRENT RESIDENCE THAT HAD BEEN A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

UM, OUR, MY HOUSE IN PARTICULAR HERE IN THE DRAWINGS, IT HAS A WALKING TRAIL GOING ON THIS SIDE OF THE CREEK, HEATH CREEK AND INSTEAD OF THE OTHER SIDE, TAKING APART IN MY BACKYARD WHERE I'M GONNA HAVE STRANGERS WALKING IN AND OUT OF MY BACKYARD CONSTANTLY.

UM, ALSO APPARENTLY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME TYPE OF TAX CHANGE WITH OUR RESIDENCES AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

UM, THE CITY, YOU KNOW, OR THE, IS THERE PREPAREMENT FROM THE CITY TO PAY MARKET VALUE FOR THE HOMES IN THAT AREA INSTEAD OF JUST A MINUSCULE AMOUNT JUST TO FULFILL SOMEBODY'S DREAM OR GOAL? UM, IT ALSO APPEARS THAT I AGREE WITH THE MAN THAT JUST SPOKE, THE DENSITY OF THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE IN THAT SMALL AMOUNT OF AREA.

IT'S GONNA BE AN INCREDIBLE NIGHTMARE FOR TRAFFIC.

AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING PEOPLE HERE AND THERE, BUT IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE VERY ROUGH AND PEOPLE ARE USED TO GOING THERE CERTAIN WAY.

BUT JUST, JUST A THOUGHT TO KIND OF TAKE A PAUSE OF WHAT THAT DENSITY'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.

UM, JUST THE ZONE CHANGES.

IT LOOKS LIKE ALSO THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE STILL THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME POSSIBLE ZONE CHANGES WITHIN THE HOUSES THERE.

LIKE, AM I GOING TO, UH, HAVE SOME TYPE OF BUSINESS RIGHT NEXT TO MY HOUSE IN, CAN I CREATE A BUSINESS RIGHT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT MAY AFFECT MY NEIGHBOR'S, UH, TRAFFIC WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD MY HOUSE IS IN, THERE'S ONLY ONE ENTRANCE IN, THERE'S NO EXIT, UH, OUT OTHER THAN THE ENTRANCE.

YOU GO IN AND OUT THE SAME ENTRANCE.

IT'S A VERY SMALL STREET, BUT IT MAKES A BIG IMPACT.

SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS, UM, INTERESTED IN IS THE DENSITY OF THE POPULATION, THE AMOUNT OF INCREDIBLE TRAFFIC THAT IT'S GOING TO PRESENT, UM, WHAT'S GONNA BE OFFERED FOR THE PEOPLE THERE IF THEIR PROPERTIES HAVE TO BE TAKEN.

AND, UM, WHY WERE SOME OF THE THINGS NOT PRESENTED IN THEIR PRESENTATION OF WHAT'S GOING, WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO YOUR CURRENT, UM, RESIDENCE THAT ENJOY LIVING HERE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CANOPIES, ARE WE SAYING THAT CANOPIES ARE REQUIRED IN THOSE DISTRICTS OR IF THEY CHOOSE TO PUT IN A CANOPY, THOSE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY NEED TO FOLLOW? ARE, ARE YOU GUYS ABLE TO FLIP? OH, THERE IT GOES.

AND BEFORE YOU LEAVE, IF YOU COULD JUST ONE MORE TIME FOR THE RECORD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ALSO YOUR POSITION.

ARE YOU IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION? YES SIR.

MY NAME IS DEE LORD, I'M IN OPPOSITION.

JUST FOR A PAUSE TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THIS INFORMATION.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, EITHER IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION? ALRIGHT, I'LL ASK ONE LAST TIME.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? EITHER IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION? ALRIGHT, HEARING IS SEEING NO OTHERS.

WE WILL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY AT 8:11 PM TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSIONERS.

ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? MS. BROOKS? JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON, THERE WEREN'T ANY PAGE NUMBERS, BUT IT WAS THE SLIDE WITH THE SIGNAGE.

UM, SPECIFICALLY

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UM, SO WHILE I'M FLIPPING ALL ANSWERS, IT'S SAYING THAT THAT IS A SIGN TYPE THAT IS ALLOWED.

WAIT, IT WAS BEFORE THAT GOING THE RIGHT WAY? YEAH, RIGHT THERE.

SORRY.

YEAH.

SO IT IS SAYING THAT THAT IS A SIGN TYPE THAT IS ALLOWED IN THAT DISTRICT, NOT, NOT THAT YOU ALLOWED, NOT REQUIRED, NO.

UM, GO FORWARD A COUPLE OF PAGES.

I THINK IT WAS STEEP.

THE, THIS ONE? NO, ON THE, UM, EXCESS POINTS.

UH, DRIVEWAY EXCESS.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

HERE, HERE.

SO THESE ARE THE EXISTING EXCESS AND DRIVEWAYS ALONG YEAH, THIS PORTION OF RUNWAY.

I MEAN, FROM WHAT I COULD TELL FROM AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH, THIS IS VERY QUICK.

I WAS JUST PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, AS AN ILLUSTRATIVE.

THAT'S, IS THERE A, A PRO SOMETHING IN HERE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE CONSOLIDATION OF DRIVEWAYS AT ALL, OR IS THAT KIND OF AS NEEDED? YEAH, THAT'S NOT A PART OF THIS ZONING ELEMENT.

BUT THAT IS A PART OF THE REDESIGN OF THE STREET.

AND THAT IS BEING TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

WE'VE HAD SOME MEETINGS ON THAT.

BUT, BUT IT IS PUSHING FOR THAT AND IT'S PUSHING FOR LESS ACCESS POINTS, UM, AND, UH, REQUIRING OR ONLY ALLOWING A, A MAXIMUM NUMBER IN ALL CASES.

SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF TRYING TO COME FROM THAT AT A LOT OF ANGLES.

AND I KNOW THE CITY TEAM IS ALSO WORKING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS, I THINK, TO TRY TO FIND WAYS TO, TO REDUCE THOSE DRIVE VI OKAY.

THOSE DRIVE ACCESS POINTS.

ALL RIGHT.

AND LAST QUESTION, UM, JUST BASED ON KIND OF WHAT I HEARD, THERE IS NO PROVISION IN THIS HAMPTON ROAD DOCUMENT THAT ALLOWS FOR IMMINENT DOMAIN CORRECT.

OR TAKING OF PROPERTIES? I, I KEEP HEARING WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IF THEY CITY TAKES OUR PROPERTY TO DEVELOP CERTAIN THINGS.

CITY.

THIS, THIS DOES NOT GIVE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOLKS KNOW THIS DOES NOT GIVE THE CITY ANY AUTHOR AUTHORIZATION TO DO IMMINENT DOMAIN TO, I'M GOING TO YIELD TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

UH, BUT JUST IN SHORT, CITY HAS THE AUTHORIZATION TO DO IMMINENT DOMAIN, BUT THERE IS A PROCESS.

MM-HMM.

I YIELD TO, UH, CITY ATTORNEY AND IF EVERYONE WOULD TURN OFF THEIR MICS.

THE CITY ALWAYS HAS THE POWER OF IMMINENT DOMAIN, UH, THROUGH TEXAS LAW.

WHETHER THEY CHOOSE TO EXERCISE THAT AND GO THROUGH THE STEPS, UH, TO EXERCISE THAT, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE FUTURE.

I MEAN, IT'S, THAT'S NOT PART OF ZONING.

UM, IT'S NEVER PART OF ZONING THAT'S NOT QUITE RELEVANT TO THIS.

BUT THERE IS A PROCESS FOR THE CITY TO GO THROUGH TO ACQUIRE LAND THROUGH IMMINENT DOMAIN.

UM, THAT TAKES SEPARATE AUTHORIZATIONS AS WELL, UH, BY COUNCIL.

I THINK.

UH, IF YOU CAN JUST KIND OF IN GENERAL, SPECIFICALLY, WHEN A CITY DOES IMMINENT DOMAIN, WHAT TYPES OF USES IS THAT FOR? NOT TYPICALLY JUST TO DO A DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? DEVELOPMENT IS A BROAD WORD, SO YES.

UM, BUT IT HAS TO BE FOR SOME PUBLIC NEED.

UM, IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY WANNA MAKE IT LOOK, THEY WANT TO TAKE YOUR HOUSE AND REBUILD A BUILDING, A COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

IT'S NOT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S FOR LIKE A PUBLIC PURPOSE.

COMMERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, MS. DUBER AT THIS TIME? I THINK THIS IS A, UH, A GREAT IDEA AND A GREAT PLANT.

HOWEVER, I AGREE WITH THE CITIZENS AND I'VE HAD THE CONCERN FOR QUITE A WHILE ON OTHER IMPACTS THAT THIS IS GONNA HAVE ON CITIZENS.

AND A LOT OF THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE CLOSE TO HAMPTON ROAD IN THIS AREA ARE ELDERLY CITIZENS AND A LOT OF 'EM ARE FRIENDS OF MINE.

AND I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH IMPACT STUDIES THAT, UH, MAKE ME COMFORTABLE TO SUPPORT THIS, UH, THIS PROJECT AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU, MS. DUBER.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? MR. REVENUE? YES, MR. CHAIR, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM CLEAR, WE'RE ONLY HERE TO EITHER APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THE CHARACTER CODE, NOT WHAT THE CITY IS GOING TO

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BE DOING MOVING FORWARD.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, MS. BROOKS? JUST A ON THE, AND THIS MAY BE FOR MR. HUGHES ON THE STREET SCAPE IMPROVEMENT SLIDE.

WAS THAT, AND STAFF MAY NEED TO CONFIRM, WAS THAT BASED ON THE PROPOSED STREET DESIGNATIONS OR THE EXISTING STREET DESIGNATIONS LIKE WESTMORELAND? WAS THAT BASED ON THE EXISTING CONFIGURATION OR THE PROPOSED THOROUGHFARE PLAN DESIGNATION? IT'S, UH, BASED ON THE, WELL THIS IS A HYBRID, SO IT'S BASED ON THE EXISTING, UM, STREETS RIGHT NOW WITH THE PROPOSED FUTURE EXPANSION OF PARKVILLE, UM, ROAD EAST WEST, ONLY ON PARKVILLE, NOT ON WESTMORELAND OR ALSO WESTMORELAND IS IS A FUTURE ROAD EXPANSION.

UH, SO THOSE NUMBERS AND CAPACITY WAS BASED ON WESTMORELAND BEND A FOUR LANE ROADWAY? YEAH, RIGHT NOW THIS, THIS IS THE CURRENT, UH, CONDITIONS.

CURRENT CONDITIONS, CORRECT.

TRAFFIC COUNTS.

WHILE YOU'RE THERE, CAN YOU, UH, IF YOU WOULD GO BACK TO THE SLIDE, UH, THAT BASICALLY TALKED ABOUT THE THREE LANE CROSS SECTION ? YES.

SO I'M SEEING THIS CURRENTLY IN DESIGN, SO WE WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE WAYS DOWN IN, IN THIS PROCESS.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION AND IF THERE HAVE BEEN, I APOLOGIZE, UH, IF I MAY BE BEING REDUNDANT, YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY CONSIDERED IT AND MAY HAVE RULED IT OUT, BUT HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS CENTER LANE THAT'S DESIGNATED AS A LEFT LANE, UH, BEING A THROUGH LANE? UH, AND, AND EVEN IF IT'S A THROUGH LANE ONLY FOR A PERIOD OF TIME? I KNOW I'VE BEEN OUT IN ARLINGTON AND I KNOW BY COWBOY STADIUM THEY HAVE THIS, YOU KNOW, AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY YOU GO THIS DIRECTION, CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY YOU GO THAT DIRECTION.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONVERSATIONS OR POSSIBLY MAKING THAT CENTER LANE INSTEAD OF A LEFT TURN LANE, A THROUGH LANE AT, AT, EVEN AT CERTAIN POINTS OF THE DAY? NO.

NO SIR.

IT HAS NOT BEEN CONSIDERED OR TALKED ABOUT.

IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S FEASIBLE? AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU WHY.

AND I DON'T WANNA GET TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS AND WITH THIS, I I, MY FIRST, UH, CLAIM THAT I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

UH, BUT I WILL SAY THAT ON, I'VE BEEN ON, ON SEVERAL GAME DAY EVENTS, UH, WITH THE COWBOYS AND THESE ARE CONTROLLED OR ARE MANAGED, UH, LANES AND CERTAIN DURING CERTAIN PEAK HOURS, THE LANES ARE, ARE, ARE ONE DIRECTIONAL WHICH ALLOWS FOR, UH, THAT, UM, TRAFFIC FLOW TO GET PEOPLE IN OR OUT, UH, OF THE, UM, THOSE EVENTS.

UH, HERE, UH, IN OUR, SOME OF OUR EARLIER DISCUSSIONS, THIS IS TO HELP WITH THE, UH, TRAVEL OF, OF, OF CARS IN THAT NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND DIRECTION, BUT ALSO TO ALLOW THAT LEFT TURN MOVEMENT TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THOSE, THOSE SIDE DRIVEWAYS, UH, THAT WOULD PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE PARKING OR TO THOSE, UM, BUSINESS DESTINATIONS THERE.

BECAUSE, BECAUSE MY THOUGHT PROCESS, AND I HEAR EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID, MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS EVEN IF IT WAS DURING CERTAIN PORTIONS OF THE DAY, AND IF IT WAS JUST A THROUGH LANE WHERE YOU DIDN'T MAKE LEFT TURNS WHERE YOU, IT WOULD HELP FACILITATE TRAFFIC, I UNDERSTAND THE OVERALL, UM, PURPOSE AND PLAN IS TO TRY TO SLOW THINGS DOWN, BUT THE REALITY IS THERE ARE CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO ARE ACCUSTOMED TO USING HAMPTON ROAD AND JUST BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGING THE DESIGN DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GONNA STOP USING HAMPTON ROAD.

AND EVEN THOSE WHO DO, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S POLE, COCKER HILL OR WHATEVER.

SO TO AVOID STRESSING ANY, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, UH, ARTERY OF THE CITY, WHETHER IT BE HAMPTON OR SOME OTHER, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST LIKE, IT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION FOR THAT TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

THE, THE, THE BIGGER MINDS WHO SPECIALIZE IN THIS AREA MAY SAY IT'S NOT FEASIBLE.

I GET THAT, BUT AT LEAST IF THERE HAS NOT BEEN A CONVERSATION, I WOULD, I WOULD URGE THAT THERE BE A CONVERSATION.

WE'LL WE'LL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

OKAY? YEP.

MR. MR. BREWER? NO, NO.

MR. BREWER.

HE, HE HAD HIS HAND ON THE MIC.

IT JUST, HE HE JUST GO AHEAD, MS. BUR WHAT YOU GOTTA SAY.

I WAS GONNA RUN FROM IT, BUT I WAS GONNA SAY THE CITY HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH AND HAD DIFFERENT PLANS ALREADY FINALIZED AND THAT'S SOME OF THE PLANS THAT HE WAS, UH, AND STUDIES THAT HE SHARED WITH YOU EARLIER.

SO AT THIS POINT, THE MARCHING ORDERS HAVE ALREADY BEEN GIVEN TO THE CONSULTANTS TO DESIGN WHAT YOU ARE SEEING NOW, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN ZONING.

BUT UNDERSTAND, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I'M JUST SAYING IF, IF THIS HASN'T BEEN A CONVERSATION, MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE WORTH THE CONVERSATION TO, TO SEE.

AND I DON'T WANNA GET TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS, BUT I, I, I'LL JUST SAY THIS AND WE CAN MOVE ON.

MARCHING ORDERS MAY HAVE BEEN GIVEN, BUT IF THE COMMANDER SEES THAT THAT'S NOT A GOOD OPTION, SOMETIMES MARCHING ORDERS CHANGE.

AND SO

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I MEAN, AND AGAIN, IT MAY CHANGE NOTHING OR SOMEBODY MIGHT SAY, WELL HEY, WE NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS.

MAYBE THAT MIGHT HELP WITH THE TRANSFER FLOW IN THAT AREA.

'CAUSE I KNOW ONE OF THE CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY AS SOMEBODY WHO TRAVELS HAMPTON, EACH AND EVERY DAY, I DROP MY KIDS OFF AND I HAVE TO TRAVEL HAMPTON EACH AND EVERY DAY.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS THAT WAS IN, UH, WHAT YOU GAVE US AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR PROVIDING THAT TO US.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU AS SOMEBODY WHO'S ACTUALLY ON THE ROAD, UH, DURING PEAK HOURS, TRAFFIC CAN BE A LITTLE ROUGH NAVIGATING DURING PEAK HOURS.

SO I UNDERSTAND THIS IS LIKE FOR PEAK HOURS AND ALSO OFF PEAK HOURS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT SUGGESTION.

SO THAT BEING SAID, UH, COMMISSIONS.

MR. LL, MR. CHAIR? UH, YES.

COULD I SEE THE LAST SLIDE AGAIN? AND I THINK THAT'S THE, UM, NEXT EVENTS THAT ARE COMING UP.

I WANTED TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING AT THOSE AGAIN.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, HE AND SEND NO OTHERS COMMISSIONERS AS IT RELATES, UH, TO MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, STA TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH A NEW HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE SECTION.

UH, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? IS THERE A MOTION I SEE LIGHT ON? I WASN'T, OH NO.

IS IT OKAY, I ASK AGAIN IS, IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE MS. BROOKS? I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW A STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO AMEND ALL THIS LANGUAGE TO ADOPT THE CHARACTER CODE FOR HAMPTON ROAD.

OKAY, THERE HAS BEEN A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BROOKS TO MAKE A RE A RECOMMENDATION TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH A NEW HAMPTON ROAD CHARACTER CODE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

MOVE ON NOW TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, UH, WHICH WILL BE ITEM NUMBER G ONE, WHICH IS CONSIDERED THE PRELIMINARY PLATTER, DESOTO COMMONS.

IT IS BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY.

SECOND.

IS THERE ANY UNREADINESS HEARING IS SAYING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED DO THE SAME TO SAY NAY, NAY.

MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS ITEM F, WHICH IS CITIZEN APPEARANCES.

UH, AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME, UH, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO COME FORWARD, UH, TO ADDRESS ANY TOPIC THAT IS NOT ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT.

UH, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE PLANNING, PLANNING IS ZONING COMMISSION CANNOT TAKE ACTION ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHED TO COME FORWARD DURING THIS CITIZEN APPEARANCE PART OF THE AGENDA? AGAIN, IT HAS TO BE AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA FOR TONIGHT AND WE CANNOT TAKE ACTION, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN HEAR, UH, YOUR CONCERNS OR WHATEVER YOU, UH, MAY WISH TO SHARE WITH US THIS EVENING.

I'LL ASK ONCE AGAIN, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISH TO SPEAK DURING THIS CITIZEN'S APPEARANCE PORTION OF OUR AGENDA? HEARING AND SEEING NONE, WE'LL

[1. Consider the Preliminary Plat of DeSoto Commons Wendy's. The property is legally described as being Tract 54 in the Curtis Parks, Abstract No. 1124 (800 S Hampton Rd). The applicant is Jim Moll and the property owner is HSB Investments. Case No. PP-344-23]

WENDY'S.

THE PROPERTY IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING TRACK 54 IN THE CURTIS PARKS ABSTRACT ONE E 11 24 800 SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD.

THE APPLICANT IS JIM MALL AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HSB INVESTMENTS.

AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER PP DASH 3 4 4 DASH 23.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT, UH, MS. JORDAN WILLIAMS AND GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS CASE NUMBER OF PP 3 3 4 2 3 IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR DESOTO COMMONS ZONE GENERAL RETAIL.

THE LOT IS 4.33 ACRES.

PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EAST PLEASANT RUN AND HAMPTON ROAD.

HERE'S AN AREA VIEW OF THE LAND IN QUESTION TO THE NORTH.

IT IS A VACANT LOT.

UM, IT'S ZONE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTH.

IT IS A GENERAL RETAIL LOT.

IT IS VACANT TO THE EAST IS UM, THE EAST IS ZONE PD 38 AND IT'S A CHRONIC CARE FACILITY FOR THE AGE

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TO THE WEST ZONE.

PD ONE 20 IS A SHORT HAMPTON EDITION, A SELF STORAGE FACILITY.

HERE'S THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT.

THE REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT WILL CREATE TWO LOTS.

CURRENTLY VACANT ACCESS TO THIS SITE WILL BE FROM HAMPTON ROAD AS WELL AS PARKVILLE ROAD.

THE APPLICANT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND THIS PLAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY ZONING AND SUBDIVISION REGULATION ORDINANCE.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT 3 34 DASH TWO THREE AS PRESENTED.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, HEARING IS SAID NONE.

IS THERE A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO FILE NUMBER PP DASH 3 4 4 DASH 23? IS THERE A MOTION? YES, UH, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT UH, WE RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL WRITTEN ON CASE NUMBER PP DASH 3 4 4 DASH 23.

MOTION HAS BEEN PROPERLY MADE BY COMMISSIONER CAESAR.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BELL? ANY UNREADINESS HEARING IS SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED DO THE SAME AS SAY NAY AYES HAVE IT.

SIX ZERO.

[2. Discuss and consider canceling the February 27, 2024 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting.]

IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION DURING THE WORK SESSION THAT ITEM NUMBER G TWO WILL BE WITHDRAWN.

I BELIEVE WE NOW HAVE AT LEAST ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY 27TH, 2024.

SO WE WILL, UH, MOVE PAST ITEM G TWO, WHICH HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN, WHICH LEADS

[3. Discuss and consider starting the Planning and Zoning Commission meetings at 7:00 p.m. and eliminating the Commission's 6:00 p.m. work sessions]

US TO OUR LAST ITEM ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER G THREE, WHICH IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER STARTING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS, I BELIEVE AT 6:00 PM AND ELIMINATING THE COMMISSION 6:00 PM WORK SESSION.

SO AGAIN, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER STARTING THE PLANNING ZONING MEETINGS AT 6:00 PM AND ELIMINATING THE COMMISSION 6:00 PM WORK SESSIONS.

UH, MS. M RISING, MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT, PLEASE? I ALMOST KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, BUT, UH, .

BUT THIS IS, THIS IS A, A CASE THAT IS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE YOU TO ELIMINATE THE WORK SESSION AND, UH, JUST THAT YOUR, UH, MEETINGS AT 6:00 PM HOWEVER, THIS IS, UM, TO YOUR DISCRETION WHETHER YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

UM, BUT THAT WILL ALSO ELIMINATE THE, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING, HAVING TO PRESENT ITEMS TWICE, LIKE DURING THE WEEK SESSION AND HAVING TO DO THE SAME DURING THE, UM, SEVEN O'CLOCK MEETING.

SO, BUT IT'S UP TO YOUR STAFF'S POSITION WILL BE FOR US TO ELIMINATE OUR, THE WORK SESSION, JUST THE SAME WAY THAT CITY COUNCIL IS STARTED DOING SINCE UH, JANUARY.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANYMORE WORK SESSION TIME.

THEY START THEIR MEETING AT 6:00 PM ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS MR. AU? UH, YES, CHAIRMAN, I WILL GO EITHER WAY THAT THE, UM, MAJORITY OF, OF THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER MR. ELLI WHO, UH, TENDS TO RUN A LITTLE BIT LATE GETTING TO THE WORK SESSIONS, UH, BECAUSE OF WHERE SHE WORKS, SO THAT IF WE DO, UH, ELIMINATE THE WORK SESSION, PERHAPS WE COULD START IT AT 6:30 PM VERSUS SIX.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. RAVEN.

ANY OTHER COMMENTARY? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT, SO LET'S DO THIS IN THE FORM OF TWO MOTIONS.

THE FIRST, UH, MOTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO ENTERTAIN IS DO WE WANT TO ELIMINATE THE WORK SESSIONS AND SIMPLY HAVE THE REGULAR SESSIONS? IF THAT MOTION SHOULD PASS, THEN WE'LL DISCUSS TIME.

SO THE FIRST MOTION, UH, THAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS, IS THERE A MOTION TO ELIMINATE THE WORK SESSIONS AND SIMPLY PROCEED ON THE REGULAR SESSIONS? IS THERE SUCH A MOTION? DON'T EVERYBODY JUMP AT ONCE? ALRIGHT, SO IN THE ABSENCE OF THE MOTION, I BELIEVE, UH, THAT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

SO WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR WORK SESSIONS AND THEN ALSO HAVE OUR, OUR REGULAR SESSIONS, UH, AFTERWARDS.

HOWEVER, UH, THAT BEING SAID, UH, MR. SMITH, YOU HAVE SOME INSIGHT IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT PRESENTATIONS HAVE TO BE GIVEN BOTH IN THE REGULAR SESSION AND THE WORK SESSION.

COULD YOU KIND OF GIVE US YOUR COMMENTARY ON THAT? WHETHER THAT'S

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A REQUIREMENT OR IF WE SO CHOOSE STAFF COULD GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION IN ONE OR THE OTHER.

SURE.

YEAH, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS PRESENTATIONS HAVE TO BE GIVEN IN A WORK SESSION AND IN A REGULAR SESSION, JUST AS THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WORK SESSION.

UM, SO I MEAN, THIS WAS BROUGHT FORTH BY STAFF TO ELIMINATE THE WORK SESSION THAT WOULD ELIMINATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN HAPPENING, WHICH IS THE FIRST PRESENTATION.

SO STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TO PRESENT ANYTHING TWICE.

THEY DON'T TECHNICALLY HAVE TO PRESENT FOR MANY OF THE ITEMS THEY DO.

UM, SO Y'ALL COULD REWORK THINGS ONLY PRESENT DURING REGULAR SESSION OR ONLY PRESENT DURING WORK SESSION AND HAVE MORE OF A DISCUSSION AND WORK SESSION.

UM, I MEAN, Y'ALL CAN KIND OF DO THAT HOW YOU WILL, BUT OR HOW YOU'D LIKE, BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN LIKE THE LAW OR ANYTHING THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO GIVE TWO PRESENTATIONS, ONE IN WORK SESSION AND ONE IN REGULAR SESSION.

UM, IT COULD HAPPEN IN EITHER ONE OR, OR TECHNICALLY NEITHER.

SO BECAUSE JUST FOR RECORD PURPOSES, BOTH SESSIONS ARE BEING RECORDED, SO THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE ACCESS WHETHER THE PRESENTATION'S MADE IN THE, IN THE WORK SESSION OR THE REGULAR SESSION, THE PUBLIC AS A WHOLE STILL GET, GET WE RECEIVE THE INFORMATION.

CORRECT.

COMMISSIONER PEEL, WHERE I HAVE A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE OF THAT, WE DEFINITELY SHOULD BE GIVEN OUR FULL PRESENTATION DURING THE REGULAR MEETING BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT'S BEING ADVERTISED.

THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE CONDUCTING BUSINESS.

THE QUESTION I GUESS I WOULD HAVE IS DO YOU WANT THE FULL PRESENTATION DURING YOUR WORKSHOP? RIGHT.

AND THAT'S A VALID QUESTION AND SO I'LL TURN IT OVER, UH, TO THE COMMISSION BECAUSE I WANT THIS TO BE A FULL BODY CONVERSATION.

THE QUESTION ON THE TABLE IS, DO WE WANT TO HAVE THE PRESENTATION GIVEN TO US TWICE.

UH, BECAUSE TO MR. BREWER'S POINT AND HIS CONCERN IS IT ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO HAPPEN DURING THE REGULAR SESSION.

HE WANTS TO KNOW SHOULD IT HAPPEN IN BOTH SESSIONS.

SO I'LL JUST GO DOWN THE LINE.

MR. BELL, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY 1ST? YES, SIR.

UM, WHAT'S REQUIRED TO HAPPEN IN THE REGULAR SESSION IS, AND WHAT'S ADVERTISED IS, IS THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, RIGHT? SO THOSE, THOSE MUST HAPPEN, UM, IN THE REGULAR SESSION.

MR. BELL, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS? UH, UM, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE FULL BRIEFS BOTH TIMES IN THE WORKING SESSION AND IN THE REGULAR SESSION.

I BELIEVE THAT MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A SHORT SYNOPSIS IN THE WORK SESSION AND THEN DO THE FULL BRIEFS IN THE, THE MAIN PUBLIC SESSION.

I EMPATHIZE WITH STAFF NOT TRYING TO PUT MORE WORK ON STAFF THAN NEED TO BE IN PRESENTING TWICE.

I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO WITH MY COLLEAGUE AND SAY MAYBE A BRIEF DOING WORK SESSION AND FULL PRESENTATION DURING THE, UM, MAIN SESSION.

MR. ? I CONCUR.

I CONCUR AS WELL.

MR. DUB.

I THINK THE MAIN THING WE NEED TO DO IN THE WORK SESSION IS AFTER EACH OF US HAVE GONE OUT AND LOOKED AT THE CASES, IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS IT FROM, SAY, WELL I SAW THIS AND THEY SAW THIS AND DISCUSS PARTICULAR POINTS THAT MAY NOT BE BROUGHT UP BY STAFF.

KIND OF VALUE ADDED BY OBSERVING WHAT'S OUT AT THE, AT THE SITES AND THINGS.

SO TO ME THAT'S MORE WHAT THE WORK SESSION OUGHT TO BE ABOUT, IS EACH OF US ADDING OUR OWN PERCEPTION OF WHAT WE SAW, UH, AND A SHORT SYNOPSIS AND THEN WE'LL CHEW ON IT A WHILE AND UH, AND THEN BRING IT OUT AND MAKE IT OFFICIAL HERE.

ALSO, WHEN I WAS ON THE COMMISSION BEFORE THE, UH, WORK SESSIONS WEREN'T VIDEOED, WE MET IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER VERY CASUALLY.

SO IF WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO FILM 'EM, THAT'S FINE, WE'LL COME OUT HERE AND DO IT.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK IT JUST GIVES US A, AN OPPORTUNITY TO CASUALLY IN A MORE CASUAL ATMOSPHERE, UH, DISCUSS THE CASES.

IT NEEDS TO BE VIDEOED BECAUSE WE WANNA BE TRANSPARENT TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING BECAUSE WE'RE HERE REPRESENTING THEM AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE AT ALL TIMES THEY KNOW WHAT OUR THOUGHT PROCESS IS, UH, WHETHER THEY AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THAT THOUGHT PROCESS.

SO WHAT I, WHAT I'VE HEARD ACROSS THE BOARD IS BASICALLY I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD PREFER KIND OF LIKE A SYNOPSIS OR A SUMMARY, UH, MAYBE A MORE INFORMAL CONVERSATION AND THEN THE FORMAL PRESENTATION DURING THE REGULAR SESSION.

UH, I DO BELIEVE WHETHER IT'S WORK SESSION OR REGULAR SESSION, UM,

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BUT, UH, MR. BREWER, IS THAT HELPFUL IN TERMS OF GIVING DIRECTION, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE SEEKING IN THE WORK SESSION COMPARED TO THE REGULAR SESSION? YES, SIR.

COMMISSIONS.

IS THERE ANY OTHER MATTER THAT WE NEED TO TAKE UP AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME? MR. BELL? UM, MR. CHAIR, ITEM NUMBER G TWO YOU SAID WAS REMOVED, UH, ACCORDING TO MY SHEET, IT'S SOMETHING ABOUT CANCELING OUR NEXT PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.

I MAY HAVE MISSED WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT.

MISS, MISS BREW? YEAH.

COMMISSIONER, UM, THIS AFTERNOON OUR SEAT OF CALL FROM MY CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

THERE'S A DEVELOPER THAT HAS A POTENTIAL FINAL PLAT, UM, THAT WE MAY NEED TO ACT UPON ON THE 27TH.

UH, STAFF HAS A MEETING WITH THE, UH, DEVELOPER ON THIS THURSDAY, SO WE'LL NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE COMING TO THE SAME AGREEMENTS AND IF NOT, WE WILL CONTACT, UH, THE COMMISSIONER TO LET HIM KNOW THAT IT'S NOT NEEDED OR NOT, AND COMMUNICATE TO YOU WHAT THE OUTCOME IS.

ABSOLUTELY.