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[A. WORK SESSION AGENDA:]

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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

THE TIME IS NOW 6:00 PM TODAY IS TUESDAY, OCTOBER THE 10TH OF 2023.

WE ARE NOW GONNA GO, GO AHEAD AND CALL, UH, THE WORK SESSION OF THE DESOTO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ORDER.

UH, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, UH, PRESENT.

WE HAVE MS. CAESAR, MR. RENELL, MR. BERRY, AND MYSELF, MR. PUGH.

UH, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, UH, COMMISSION.

ARE THERE ANY MODIFICATIONS, UH, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UH, BRING FORTH, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION? ANY MODIFICATION TO THE MINUTES? YES, I DO.

CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR.

MS. BROOK ON, UM, THE FIRST CASE THAT WAS, UM, THAT WE, UM, WE DIDN'T TABLE IT.

UH, THERE, THERE WAS A MOTION BY TINA ELLI AND THEN ANOTHER MOTION BY TINA ELLI, AND THEN IT SAID THAT WE RECEIVED ADVICE FROM THE ASSISTANT ATTORNEY.

I THINK THAT INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE AFTER THE FIRST MOTION, SO THAT THEY SAY SHE MADE A MOTION, SHE RESCINDED HER MOTION AS THE ADVICE OF THE ATTORNEY, AND THEN SHE MADE THE SECOND, UH, MOTION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. ELL.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER MODIFICATIONS TO BE MADE TO THE MINUTES DATED SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2023? ANY OTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2023? I KNOW STAFF BROUGHT, UH, A MINOR ISSUE, UH, TO MY ATTENTION AND THEY'RE GONNA MAKE, I THINK IT WAS LIKE A GRAMMATICAL THING.

THEY, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA CORRECT, SO THAT'S FINE AS WELL.

ANY OTHER MODIFICATIONS? ALRIGHT, HEARING AND SEEING NO OTHERS.

WE WILL MOVE ON THEN TO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2023, PLAN AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A REQUEST FOR, UH, TO OBTAIN A SPECIFIC USE PERMITT SUP IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH AND OPERATE A USED AUTO SALES ON A PROPERTY LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING LOT 24 BLOCK C IN THE CLOVER HAVEN ADDITION, UH, 1 2 0 9, UH, LONDON AVENUE.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS JOSE C. GARCIA AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE MARA MIRANDA AND JORGE LUIS MONTOYA MARTINEZ.

AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z DASH 15 0 4 DASH 23.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT, PLEASE? GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

AND MS. JORDAN, WE, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, UH, OUR MONITORS UP, UH, UP FRONT ARE NOT WORKING.

AND WHILE THAT'S BEING WORKED ON YOU, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

CASE Z DASH 15 0 4 DASH 23 IS A SUP REQUEST FOR USED CAR SALES.

THE SITE IS 0.372 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL ONE.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LINDEN AVENUE, 225 FEET EAST OF FRANKLIN AVENUE.

IT IS ADDRESSED 12 0 9 LINDEN AVENUE.

TO THE LEFT, WE HAVE AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY AND TO THE RIGHT WE HAVE A VICINITY MAP.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS VACANT PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST ARE ALSO VACANT AND CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL ONE.

THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IDENTIFIES THE SITE AS COMMERCIAL.

THE PROPOSED USE AUTO SALES IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LANE USE PLAN OF 2015 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ACCESSED FROM LINDEN AVENUE.

LINDEN AVENUE IS A LOCAL ROAD.

IT IS NOT SHOWN ON A 2015 MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

SECTION 35.2 OF THE ZONING REGULATIONS STATES THAT IN THE PROVING OF REQUESTED SUP, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING.

THE USE IS HARMONIOUS AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING EXISTING USES OR PROPOSED USES.

THE ACTIVITY REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANTS ARE NORMALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE PERMITTED USES IN THE BASE DISTRICT.

THE NATURE OF THE USE IS REASONABLE.

ANY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA HAS BEEN MITIGATED THAT ANY ADDITIONAL CON CONDITIONS SPECIFIED ENSURE THAT THE INTENT OF THE

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DISTRICT PROPOSES ARE BEING UPHELD.

THE REQUESTED USE IS NORMALLY ASSOCIATED WITH AUTOBI AUTOMOBILE AND REGULATED AND RELATED USES IN THE COMMERCIAL ONE DISTRICT AND IS COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING AND SURROUNDING USES IN THE GENERAL AREA.

THE USE OF USE AUTO SALES OPPOSE THE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT PURPOSE.

IN CONCLUSION, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS FOR USE COST SALES MEETS THE SECTION 35.2 REQUIREMENTS THAT THE PLANNING IS ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL MUST CONSIDER WHEN APPROVING SUP REQUESTS ON SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2023.

A NOTICE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS PUBLISHED IN THE CITY'S PAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION, WHICH IS THE FOCUS DAILY NEWS STAFF MAILED 36 NOTIFICATION LETTERS OF, OF, OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO THE PUBLIC ON PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 AND 400 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

AS OF OCTOBER 10TH, STAFF RECEIVED THREE NOTIFICATION LETTERS BACK IN OPPOSITION TO THE SUP REQUESTS ON SEPTEMBER 26TH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OFFICIALLY OPENED A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO ESTABLISH AND OPERATE USE AUTO SALES AT 12 0 9 LENDING AVENUE.

AT THIS MEETING, THE OWNERS HAD REQUESTED THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING BE TABLED IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TIME TO ADDRESS STAFF'S CONCERNS.

THIS IS THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN AFTER THE FIRST CORRECTIONS.

THIS IS THE SUBMITTED LANDSCAPE PLAN AFTER THE FIRST CORRECTIONS, AND THIS IS THE SUBMITTED ELEVATION PLAN.

AFTER THE FIRST CORRECTIONS, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE SPECI OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR USE AUTO SALES AS SUBMITTED.

UM, THE APPLICANT ALSO REACHED OUT TO STAFF AND ASKED THAT, UM, THAT THE MEETING BE TABLED AGAIN BECAUSE, UM, AFTER THE SECOND, UM, REQUEST FOR CORRECTIONS, THEY DID NOT, UH, FINISH ALL THE CORRECTIONS AND WE WANTED A LITTLE MORE TIME TO FINISH.

OKAY.

SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING OR WHAT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING IS TO CONTINUE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING ONCE AGAIN TO OUR NEXT MEETING.

YES, SIR.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.

MS. ROHR, WHICH IS OCTOBER THE 24TH? YES.

IS OCTOBER 24TH.

OKAY.

LET ME JUST, UH, ASK, UH, I SEE THE ATTORNEY, UH, I KNOW WE'VE CONTINUED IT ONCE, UH, NOW, NOW THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO CONTINUE TO AGAIN, UH, DOES THAT RAISE ANY CONCERNS IN YOUR MIND IF THE COMMISSION WERE TO, UH, GRANT THAT REQUEST? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS OF STAFF ON THIS CASE? YES SIR.

MR. RNO? YES, SIR WILLIAMS IS THE APPLICANT, NOT WHAT I READ IN OUR PRE-WORK, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THEY'RE RESPONDING TO YOU ALL, IS THAT CORRECT? SO I, UH, REACHED OUT TO HIM AND ASKED HIM TO COME IN AND MEET WITH ME SO I COULD SIT DOWN WITH HIM AND MAKE SURE THAT HE WAS, UH, SUBMITTING THE CORRECT DOCUMENTS.

AND HE DID.

UM, AND I THOUGHT WE HAD A, A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HE NEEDED, BUT WHEN HE TURNED INTO CORRECTION, THERE WAS STILL A FEW MORE, UM, CORRECTIONS, UM, A LOT MORE ON SOME AND A FEW ON OTHERS THAT WERE NOT DONE.

SO HE ASKED THAT HE HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO SUBMIT THEM.

GO AHEAD MR. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY IN IN GENERAL THE CONCEPT PLAN SHOWS YOU WHAT THE APPLICANT IS DESIRING TO DO, BUT WE INCLUDED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE JUST A LOT OF ADDITIONAL DETAILS.

UH, WHEN YOU READ THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE, IT DOES SAY THAT A SITE PLAN, EXCUSE ME, THAT A SUP HAS A SITE PLAN.

SO IN THE ZONING SECTION IT JUST SAYS MORE TYPICAL, BUT IT HAS A SENTENCE IN THERE THAT ACTUALLY IDENTIFIES THAT MORE DETAILED INFORMATION CAN BE REQUESTED.

SO THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HAS CREATED THOSE LISTS THAT WE INCLUDED AT THE BACK OF YOUR PACKAGES TO SHOW CLEARLY WHAT ARE THE EXACT ITEMS THAT ARE, UH, REQUIRED FOR A SITE PLAN FOR LANDSCAPE PLAN AND A BUILDING PLAN.

AND IT'S A FEW OF THOSE ITEMS THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT THE APPLICANT STILL HAS NOT ADDRESSED.

BUT I WANT YOU TO, UH, JUST, JUST REALIZE CONCEPTUALLY WISE, VISUALLY WISE,

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THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU SEE IS SHOWING WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.

BUT THE SITE PLAN ITSELF, WHICH BECOMES AS I CALL IT, A BIBLE ORDINANCE THAT'S GONNA BE ATTACHED TO THE ORDINANCE, UH, IS NOT COMPLETE.

AND COMMISSIONERS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS CASE? ALRIGHT, HEARING IS SEEING DONE.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE, WHICH IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO REZONE A 5.529 AC UH, ACRE TRACK OF LAND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING PART OF TRACK 20.

UH, IN THE JOHN LEWIS SURVEY ABSTRACT 7 7 4, UH, 1 1 1 9 U ROAD FROM EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY 10 S OF 10, YOUR PLANT DEVELOPMENT PD WE'RE BASED ZONING DISTRICT OF SINGLE FAMILY EIGHT SF EIGHT WITH ONE DEVIATION.

THE APPLICANT IS ROCK DESIGN ENGINEERING AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE RONELL JOHNSON AND JONATHAN ORTEGA.

AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1 15 0 3 DASH 23.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSIONER RAD WITH THE PLANNING DIVISION CASE NUMBER Z 15 0 3 23 IS A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST WITH THE, WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF SF EIGHT AND ONE DEVIATION.

THE SITE IS 5.5 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY ZONE SINGLE FAMILY 10.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF BLUE BONNET DRIVE AND SOUTH YOUR ROAD.

IT IS ADDRESSED AS 1 1 1 9 SOUTH EURO ROAD.

THIS IS WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AND PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY 10 WITH SOME RESIDENCIES IN VACANT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND WEST.

UM, PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT 76 WITH SOME RESIDENCIES AND TO THE EAST WE DO HAVE THE A CITY PARK, THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN NESS, THIS AREA IS LOW IN CITY RESIDENTIAL AND THE PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE.

THIS PROPERTY WILL BE ACCESSED FROM A GROUP BON IT DRIVE AS WELL AS UH, SOUTH EURO ROAD AND GROUP BON IT DRIVE IS A LOCAL ROADWAY THAT IS NOT SHOWN ON THE 2015 MASTER THERAPY PLAN AND SOUTH YOUR ROAD IS CURRENTLY TWO LANE ROAD THAT IS ANTICIPATED TO BE FOUR LANE, UH, THREE ON THE MASTER THERAPY PLAN.

THE CURRENT REQUEST IS FOR A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH SINGLE FAMILY EIGHT AS THE BEST ZONING WITH UH, DEVIATIONS FOR THREE LOTS.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY SOLD, SINGLE FAMILY 10 AND IS 5.5 ACRES IN SIZE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 19 HOMES AND IS REQUESTING DEVIATIONS FROM SECTION 9.40 3.2 OF THESE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND SECTION 38.2 D OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

BOTH SECTIONS REFER TO THE R REQUIREMENT AND PROHIBITS FRONT FACING GARAGES.

WHILE THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING DEVIATION FOR THREE OF THE 19 HOMES, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING SITE ENTRY GARAGES FOR THE THREE HOMES TO MEET THE SUBDIVISION AS WELL AS THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

STAFF SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR DEVIATION FROM THREE EARLY, FROM EARLIEST ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CONCEPT PLAN DUE TO DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERSHIP TO THE NORTH DETENTION, PONDED HAS NOT YET BEEN DETERMINED YET AND WILL BE RESOLVED AT THE PLOTTING AND CIVIL ENGINEERING STAGE.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN AND THE, UH, LOTS THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING DEVIATION FROM EARLY REQUIREMENT ARE THESE 3, 1, 2, 3, JUST THESE THREE.

THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE REQUESTING UM, EARLY DEVIATION REQUIREMENT.

OTHERWISE THEY'RE PRO PROVIDING THE IES FOR ALL THE OTHER LAWS.

AND ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2023, A PUBLIC HEARING APPEARED IN THE DAILY FOCUS NEWS NEWSPAPER AND STAFF MAILED 58 NOTIFICATION PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 AND 400 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

NO LETTERS WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION AND ONE LETTER WAS RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THE REQUESTED DEVIATION IS SUBMITTED

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AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

I'M SURE THE APPLICANTS WILL BE HERE WHEN UM, WE HAVE THE MEETING AT SEVEN.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY, OH, MS. BREW, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH, I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS TO YOU.

UM, JUST TO REALLY BE AWARE, UH, THE APPLICANT WAS REQUESTED IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH OUR 2015 MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN TO DEDICATE TO THE CITY THIS 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THAT IS A LOT OF LAND, BUT I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT WAS A A REALITY ON OUR, UH, MASTER PLAN.

WE'RE SHOWING IT HERE AND WHEN THE PLANNING PROCESS COMES BACK TO YOU, YOU WILL SEE IT AGAIN.

SO I WANT TO JUST GIVE YOU SOME, UH, ADVANCED HEAD UP ON THAT.

I ALSO WANNA FLAG THE REASON IT WAS, UH, TABLED, UH, AT YOUR LAST MEETING IS 'CAUSE THAT SITE PLAN DID INCLUDE WHAT THEY CALLED LOT 20 AT THAT TIME.

AND I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TO YOU ON OUR D AD MAP, D AD HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED TO REMOVE THAT LOT.

UM, SO IN A SENSE WE ARE SHOWING YOU A DRAWING THAT STILL INCLUDES THAT'S THE HOME RIGHT THERE.

SO ACTUALLY THE REALITY OF IT, UH, IT STOPS RIGHT HERE.

THIS PORTION IS EXISTING HOME AND THEN THE SAME THING WOULD OCCUR TO WHERE OUR ZONING MAPS HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN SHOWED SOLD.

AND SO THAT EXTRA LOT IS RIGHT UP IN HERE.

SO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS JUST TO BE SURE YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THE SAME PAGE WITH US.

MR. , GO AHEAD.

YES, MR. BREWER, WOULD YOU GO BACK TO UH, SLIDE NINE? UM, AT THE NORTH SIDE, WHAT IS THE CARVE OUT? IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A SMALL CARVE OUT OF LAND.

I'LL GO BA I'LL GO BACK TO AND SEE IF WE CAN SEE IT ON THE, UH, SITE PLAN.

THE, THE PERSON WHO OWNS THE HOME LOOKED LIKE HAVE A LITTLE STRUCTURE THERE.

LEMME SEE IF I CAN ZOOM IN ON IT MAY BE HARD, BUT THERE'S A LITTLE, THERE IS A STRUCTURE RIGHT THERE.

SO I'M ASSUMING IN THE PROPERTY OWNER SELLING THAT PROPERTY TO THIS PERSON, THEY HAD TO ETCH OUT, NOTCH OUT THAT HOME, I MEAN THAT STRUCTURE.

SO IT IS STILL OWNED BY, UM, I'M POINTING WRONG.

IT'S DOWN HERE.

THAT'S WHERE THAT.IS RIGHT THERE.

'CAUSE ONCE AGAIN THIS IS THE, I'M GONNA CALL IT LOT 20 THAT THEY REFERENCED LAST TIME.

BUT RIGHT THERE, THERE IS A STRUCTURE THERE THAT THEY NOTCHED OUT SO THAT IT IS STILL OWNED BY THE UM, PROPERTY OWNER.

SO WHAT HE'S REFERRING TO COMMISSION IS THAT NOTCH OUT THERE.

THERE'S A STRUCTURE THERE WHICH MAKES THIS A PART OF THAT PERSON'S PROPERTY.

OKAY.

AND ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION.

YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE DETENTION AND RETENTION PONDS.

IS THERE AN, WILL THERE BE ENOUGH LAND FOR EITHER OR? WELL, WHEN YOU REALIZE IN A SENSE YOU HAVE THIS WHOLE FIVE ACRES THAT COULD BE I'M BEING, UH, STRETCHED OUT, BUT WE HAVE FLAGGED TO THE UH, ENGINEER AND TO THE DEVELOPER THAT THAT IS A CITY REQUIREMENT.

'CAUSE WE ARE MS FOR MUNICIPAL STORM, SEPARATE SEWER SYSTEM, WHICH MEANS OUR REGULATIONS ESTABLISHED ANY DEVELOPMENT OVER ONE ACRE DOES REQUIRE PRE VERSUS POST-CONSTRUCTION RUNOFF.

WE HAVE FLAGGED THAT HE HAS INDICATED THAT HE UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ARE GONNA HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE WHEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL.

SO HE MAY END UP, IN REALITY HE MIGHT LOSE THIS LOT DOWN HERE, BUT HE MIGHT NOT CURRENTLY IN THIS VERY CORNER THERE IS AN EXISTING STORM WATER INLET THAT IS COLLECTING DRAINAGE FROM THIS SIDE OF THERE'S AN OPEN EARTH AND CHANNEL BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING GRADING CHANGES AND EVERYTHING HERE.

HIS ENGINEER IS GONNA HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S POST-CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS AFTER IS NO GREATER THAN PRE.

THAT'S ALL WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT LANGUAGE, UH, WHEN IT GOES TO THE COUNCIL IN THE ORDINANCE.

THANK, THANK YOU.

AND SO WHEN IT COMES BACK, IF HE, IF HE GETS HIS ZONING APPROVED, WHEN IT COMES BACK FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, YOU WILL SEE WHERE THEY HAVE ENGINEERED TO KNOW WHERE IT HAS TO GO.

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AND A PART OF WHAT OUR PD ORDINANCES INCLUDE IS LANGUAGE DEALING WITH AN HOA SO THAT HOA WILL BE THE OWNERS OF THAT PROPERTY.

IF IT'S NOT DONE AS A PROPERTY LOT, IF IT'S DONE AS AN EASEMENT, WHICH MEANS SOMEBODY OWNS IT, IT STILL WILL BE ESTABLISHED FOR THE HOA.

BUT DURING THE PRELIMINARY PLAT IS WHERE IT WILL GET DEFINED AND BECOME A BIBLE.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS CASE? I HAVE ONE MR. CHARLIE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU MENTIONED THAT THE DCA MAP AND THE MAP THAT WE UM, THAT YOU SHOWED ON THE LAST SLIDE, UM, WEREN'T UPDATED FOR THAT MYSTERIOUS LOT 20 FROM THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED IT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WEREN'T ANY CONCERNS.

WE, WE RESOLVED THE NOTICE ISSUE.

THERE WE'RE NOT INADVERTENTLY RE TRYING TO REZONE THAT LOT 20 THAT LIKE ALL OF THAT PART HAS BEEN RESOLVED SUCH THAT WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE 19 LOTS.

YES.

WHAT WE DID AS STAFF, WHILE THAT NORTHERN BORDER TRULY IS LOWER, WE STILL EXTENDED IT DEALING WITH THE 200 400 FROM THOSE CORNERS OUR CITY COUNCIL HASN'T IDENTIFIED TO US.

THEY WANT US TO BE MORE INFORMATIVE TO MORE PEOPLE SO WE DON'T HAVE A REASON TO DECREASE THAT NUMBER.

NOW IF WE WOULD'VE BEEN SEEING DURING THE FIRST GOING AROUND THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A LOT OF OPPOSITION, WHICH MEANS I REALLY TRULY NEED TO KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, WE WOULD'VE TAKEN THAT INTO ACCOUNT BUT WE KIND OF PLANTED A LITTLE LOOSE ON HOW WE SAW IT THE FIRST TIME, UH, THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO TRIGGER THAT ACCOUNT AND THERE WAS ONE OPPOSITION, BUT IT JUST INDICATES THAT THE PERSON'S OPPOSED NO SPECIFICS.

AGAIN, THE STATE STATUTE AND OUR LOCAL STATUTE ESTABLISHES THAT 20% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET, WHICH WOULD BE THIS BLUE AREA, WOULD HAVE TO VOICE OPPOSITION IN ORDER NOT AT YOUR LEVEL, BUT WHEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL FOR THEM TO BE, UH, REQUIRED TO ACT ON IT WITH REQUIRING A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE PRESENT, EXCUSE ME, OF THE FULL COUNCIL.

AND THAT FOR CLARIFICATION, AGAIN, WE CHANGED OUR ORDINANCE LAST YEAR TO WHERE IF YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS DENIED DENIAL, THEN THAT TRIGGERS A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF THE MEMBERS THAT ARE PRESENT.

BUT FOR THIS STATUTORY 20%, IF WE WOULD'VE RECEIVED 20% BACK OF OPPOSITION, THEN THAT WILL TRIGGER THE COUNCIL HAVING TO DO THE SUPER MAJORITY OF THE FULL COUNCIL.

YES MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

, MR. BEARER, MR. BREWER, UH, THIS IS PROBABLY IN INCONSEQUENTIAL BUT UH, IF YOU'D GO BACK TO THE SITE MAP PLEASE.

OKAY.

ON THIS ONE RIGHT, UH, AS BLUE BONNET DEAD ENDS INTO SOUTH ELL.

YES.

IN UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE LOCATION SITE.

UNDER THE SUMMARY IT STATES THAT THIS PROPERTY IS ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER.

THE NORTHWEST CORNER IS UP AT PARKER AND BLUE BONNET.

SO THIS ACTUALLY I BELIEVE IS THE NORTH, UH, WOULD BE THE NORTHEAST SOUTHEAST CORNER.

NO, WE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION.

WE WOULD STILL DEFINE IT AS NORTHEAST INTERSECTION OF SOUTH YULE AND BLUE BONNET.

IF, IF YOU ROAD IS RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH, AND LET'S IMAGINE IF BLUE BONNET WENT STRAIGHT ACROSS TO GET THAT CROSS, THEN AT THAT INTERSECTION, IF I'M STANDING THERE LOOKING NORTH, THAT PROPERTY IS THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THAT INTERSECTION.

IF IT CROSSED YOUR ROAD, I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT SINCE IT DEAD ENDS INTO YOUR ROAD AT THAT POINT, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE NORTHEAST, UH, THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THAT PROPERTY.

OKAY.

LET US READ AND LET US LEARN.

I THINK I HAD A A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING BUT OKAY.

OKAY.

IT DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY TECHNIC LIKE I PROBABLY INCONSEQUENTIAL.

YES, BUT I DID NOTICE THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR.

ALRIGHT COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, HEARING AND SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO ON TO OUR THIRD PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF A REQUEST TO AMEND PLAN DEVELOPMENT OF 1 25 PD 1 25 IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOUR

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A FOUR STORY HOTEL HOME TWO BY HILTON WITH DEVIATIONS TO BE DEVELOPED ON, ON PROPERTY THAT IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING LOT FIVE A ONE AND LOT FIVE B.

UH, QUORUM WHEATLAND MEDICAL EDITION.

UH, THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF 2.64 ACRES OF LAND AND IS ADDRESSED AS TWENTY SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY SEVEN SIXTEEN HIGHWAY 67.

THE APPLICANT IS HIRING DE DESAI, UH, AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS STONE WOOD HOTELS, LLC.

AND THIS IS ZONING CASE Z DASH 1,505 DASH 23.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? YES.

UH, CA CASE NUMBER Z 15 0 5 23.

YOU A REQUEST TO AMEND PD 1 25 TO ALLOW FOR A FOUR STORY HOTEL WITH SOME DEVIATIONS.

THE SITE IS COMPOSED OF TWO LOTS WITH A TOTAL OF 2.64 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY ZONED PD 1 25 WITH, UH, OFFICE TWO AS THE BASE ZONING.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF US HIGHWAY 67 AND SOUTH OF EAST WI WHEATLAND ROAD.

IT IS ADDRESSED AS TWENTY SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY SEVEN HUNDRED SIXTEEN US HIGHWAY 1667.

THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE, UH, TWO PROPERTIES.

THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS THE ONE OF THE LOTS AND THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS THE SECOND LOT AND THE TWO LOTS ARE COMBINED FOR THE SITE BEING PROPOSED FOR THE HOTEL TO THE NORTH.

UH, THE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED PD 1 25 AND THERE'S A DENTAL OFFICE AND TO THE SOUTH AND WEST, UH, IT'S A PART OF A CITY OF DUNCANVILLE TO THE EAST IS A PD 1 25 ZONE PROPERTY AND THERE IS A VACANT LAND AS WELL AS A HOTEL.

THE FUTURE LAND IS PLAN OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IDENTIFIES THIS SITE IS SUITABLE FOR OFFICE SLASH RETAIL AND THE PROPOSED HOTEL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OF THE 2015 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

ACCESS TO THIS SITE IS, UM, FROM USI 67 AND BARRYMORE LAND LAND, WHICH IS A PART OF, UH, CITY OF UH, DUNCANVILLE.

IT'S NOT IN THE CITY OF DESOTO.

THE SEAT OF DESOTO IS NO ROADWAY THAT BOUGHT US THIS PROPERTY.

AS I SAID, AGAIN, THE CURRENT REQUEST IS TO AMEND PD 1 25 IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR A FOUR STORY HOTEL WITH SOME DEVIATIONS.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED PD 1 25 WITH OFFICE TWO IS BASED ZONING, PD 1 25 AND OFFICE TWO IS OFFICE TWO.

BOTH ALLOW HOTELS BY RIDE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A FOUR STORY HOTEL WITH SOME KITCHENAID FACILITIES.

THE APPLICANT IS, UH, PROPOSING THE FOLLOWING AMENITIES, LOUNGE, LOBBY AND BREAKFAST ROOM AREA, OUTDOOR LOUNGE AND UH, GRIEVING AREA, FRONT FIRE PIT AND GATHERING AREA, OUTDOOR POOL AREA, MEETING ROOM, MARKET GRAB AND GO.

FITNESS SERVE ROOM, BUSINESS CENTER, GUESTS AND STAFF LAUNDRY ROOMS. THE PROPOSED DEVIATIONS, UM, PARK, UH, PARKING AREA PLACED TO DINE AS WELL AS SETBACK REDUCTION.

THE, IN TERMS OF THE PLACE TO D IN DEVIATION, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 2,460 SQUARE FEET LOUNGE AND LOBBY, INCLUDING A DINING AREA IN PLACE OF A FULL SIZE RESTAURANT.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING 1.1 HUNDRED SQUARE FEET MEETING SPACE FOR A FOUR HOTEL WITH, UH, 124 GUEST ROOMS. PARKING WISE, THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING 140 PARKING SPACES IN PLACE OF, UM, A HUNDRED FIFTY FIFTY EIGHT, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE LACKING 18 SPACES.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING FOR A DEVIATION FROM THE BUILDING SET BACK FOR THE, UM, EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

THEY ARE REQUESTING A DEVIATION FROM 25 FEET TO FIVE FEET.

SO THOSE ARE THE THREE DEVIATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING PARKING PLACE TO DINE AS WELL AS SETBACKS.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED, UM, HOTEL AND THE SETBACK THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS AROUND THIS AREA RIGHT HERE WHERE THE, THE POOL IS, THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

AND THE APPLICANT IS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE 25 FEET FROM THE PROPER LINE RIGHT HERE TO WHERE THE POOL IS, BUT THEY'RE PROPOSING FIVE, FIVE FEET.

THIS

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IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED ELEVATION PLAN.

ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2023, A PUBLIC HEARING APPEARED IN THE DAILY FOCUS.

NEWSPAPER AND STAFF MAILED 11 NOTIFICATION TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 AND 400 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

NO LETTERS WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS SITE.

TO THIS APPLICATION, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF PD AMENDMENT, PD 1 25 AMENDMENT SUBJECT TO REDUCED NUMBER OF GUEST ROOMS TO ENABLE THE APPLICANT TO HAVE THE REQUIRED PACKING WITH LARGE SIZE AMENITIES WHILE MEETING THE REQUIRED SETBACKS.

AND I'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THE APPLICANT IS, UH, WILL BE PRESENTING A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION DURING, UH, THE SEVEN 7:00 PM SESSION, BUT AS OF NOW, I'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. BREWER.

DO YOU HAVE SOME? YEAH, AGAIN, A COUPLE OF ITEMS. UM, AS BEST INDICATED, UH, THE EXISTING PD UH, IS 1 25 AND WHEN IT WAS APPROVED, IT WAS APPROVED WITH A BASE ZONING OF OFFICE 2 0 2.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD CHANCE TO LOOK AT O2, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO BE SURE I HIGHLIGHT TO YOU SO THAT IT'S NOT A QUESTION.

AND IN O2, THESE USAGES ARE, UH, MUST BE LOCATED ADJACENT TO A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.

AND SO THIS MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW THAT OR NOT.

AND ALSO THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR STRUCTURES IS ACTUALLY EIGHT STORIES.

SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO, UH, QUESTION THE FOUR STORY 'CAUSE IT IS AUTHORIZED.

'CAUSE THE MAXIMUM IN AN OH TWO, WHICH IS THE BASE ZONING, IS EIGHT STORIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS CASE? MR. OW? YES.

UH, ON SLIDE NINE, MR. RAZZI, ON THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS DEVIATIONS, IT SAYS 18 SPACES LESS.

IT SAYS ONE 30 INSTEAD OF 1 58.

WOULDN'T THAT BE 28 SPACES? YES.

OH NO, THAT'S, THAT WAS THE TYPE THAT IS A TYPE I NEED TO CHANGE IT TO ONE 40.

TO ONE 40, YES.

OKAY.

ONE 40, THANK YOU.

AND DO WE KNOW HOW MANY KITCHENETTES THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE? ARE ALL OF THE ROOMS GOING TO BE KITCHENETTE? YES, THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT SAID.

AND HOW MANY, UH, GUEST LAUNDRY FLOORS.

EVERY FLOOR IS GONNA HAVE GUEST LAUNDRIES.

AS FAR AS YOUR QUESTION, THE UM, LAYOUT PLANS THAT WE WERE PROVIDED ACTUALLY SHOWS THE, ON THE FIRST FLOOR THERE'S GOING TO BE THE WASH AREA FOR THE EMPLOYEES THEMSELVES, WHICH IS, I CAN'T GET IT RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S FOR THE EMPLOYEES THEMSELVES.

AND THEN FOR THE, WELL LEMME GO TO ONE BEFORE THIS.

OH, THAT'S NOT AS WELL THEN THEY ONLY HAVE SHOWING ONE AND IT'S ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND IT'S RIGHT BEFORE YOU GO INTO THE GYM AREA, ALL THE OTHER LAYOUTS AND YOU HAVE THOSE IN YOUR PACKAGES.

UM, WE GAVE YOU THE FLOOR LAYOUTS FOR THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE SECOND, THIRD, AND FOURTH ARE THE SAME ONES.

EVERY ROOM 124 ROOMS WILL HAVE KITCHENETTES.

THIS IS, UH, CONSIDERED AN EXTENDED STAY.

UM, THE LAUNDRY FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO WASH IS ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THAT HALLWAY GOING TO THE, UM, WEIGHT ROOM.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE? ALRIGHT, HEARING AND SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH GREEN SPACE REGULATIONS FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY OF DESOTO.

AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER TA DASH 0 0 4 DASH 23.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? SO TONIGHT, UH, STAFF IS BRINGING, UM, THE GREEN SPACE, UH, WHICH IS STRATEGIC, UH, PLANNING GOAL NUMBER 10.

AND, UM, THIS WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING WHERE WE ARE BEGINNING TO TALK ABOUT THE, UM, ORDINANCE FOR GREEN SPACE.

BUT TONIGHT, SINCE, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID NOT GET AN OPPORTUNITY

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TO TO BE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, WHEN WE PRESENTED THE SECOND, UM, SECOND, UM, WORK SESSION ON GREEN SPACE, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR YOU ALL TO, TO, TO BRING YOU ALL TO SPEED ON WHAT WE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL SO THAT THAT WAY WHEN WE BRING THE ORDINANCE NEXT, UM, AT YOUR NEXT MEETING, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TO KNOW WHAT IT IS AND WHERE WE ARE COMING FROM.

SO TONIGHT WE ARE BASICALLY GIVING YOU, UM, THE PRESENTATION THAT WE GAVE TO CITY COUNCIL ON, UH, SEPTEMBER 18.

AND THEN WE'LL GIVE YOU THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE, FOR THE ORDINANCE GREEN SPACE ORDINANCE.

AND THEN ON THE 24TH, WE WILL GIVE YOU THE, UM, THE ORDINANCE ITSELF THAT YOU CAN THEN, IF YOU ARE GOOD WITH IT, RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL.

SO TONIGHT AGAIN, WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE FOLLOW UP, FOLLOW UP TO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL, UM, WHEN WE HAD THE JOINT MEETING ON THE 17TH OF, OF JULY.

WE ARE ALSO GOING TO GIVE YOU FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM CITY COUNCIL WHEN WE HAD THE SEPTEMBER 18, UH, 20, UH, 2023 MEETING.

WE ARE ALSO GOING TO GIVE YOU A FRAMEWORK FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE THAT THE GREEN SPACE ORDINANCE NEEDS TO, TO, TO BE.

AND WE ARE ALSO GOING TO IDENTIFY THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.

IN FORM OF OUR RECAP.

WHEN WE MET ON, UH, JULY 17TH, 2023, WE, OUR STAFF GAVE YOU DEFINITIONS OF ONE, WHAT GREEN SPACE IS.

WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF GREEN SPACE, WHICH INCLUDES ENVIRONMENTAL, MENTAL, SOCIAL, AND PHYSICAL BENEFITS.

WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, CURRENT, UH, GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS.

I MEAN, WHICH INCLUDE GREEN SPACES THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR TOWN HOMES AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY.

HOWEVER, THAT, UH, MEETING, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT.

UH, THE CITY HAS, UM, MIXED USE ONE AND MIXED USE TWO, WHICH ALSO HAS SOME REQUIREMENTS, OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.

SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE TONIGHT.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT OUR BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT ARE IMPLEMENTED BY OTHER CITIES.

THEN WE HAD A DISCUSSION AND FEEDBACK OR THAT MEETING ON THE 17TH OF JULY.

AND THIS IS, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE GOT FROM THAT MEETING.

THE SEVEN JULY 17TH MEETING, WE DID GET OUR INFORMATION SUCH AS WHAT IS THE BEST, UH, PRACTICE? DO WE, WE HAVE TO GO BY ACREAGE? HOW MANY, HOW MUCH GREEN SPACE WE NEED BY ACREAGE? OR DO WE HAVE TO GO BY NUMBER OF UNITS? WE, THERE WAS TALK ABOUT, UH, THE WAY WE NEED TO DEFINE, UM, GREEN SPACE, GIVE THAT, THAT THE GREEN SPACE DEFINITION HAS TO GIVE THE REASON WHY WE NEED THIS GREEN SPACE ORDINANCE.

THERE WAS ALSO DIS UH, TALK ABOUT, UH, HOW WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THESE GREEN SPACES ARE NOT JUST GOING TO BE TINY LITTLE BITS OPEN SPACES THAT ARE JUST LEFT OVER FROM A DESIGN, BUT THAT THEY HAVE TO BE USABLE.

THERE WAS ALSO TALK ABOUT, UM, UH, STAFF WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS SO THAT THAT WAY WE CAN GET INPUT FROM DEVELOPERS IN ON HOW MUCH THEY THINK SHOULD BE GIVEN TO GREEN SPACE.

AS WELL AS, UH, CHECKING WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE ARE GOING TO DO IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE LEGAL.

UH, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER TO ALLOW RETENTION OR DETENTION PONDS IS, UH, WHETHER THEY CAN BE USED AS GREEN SPACE OR MEET THE USED TO MEET THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.

WE ALSO DISCUSSED ABOUT HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH, I MEAN IN TERMS OF MINIMUM OR MAXIMUM SHOULD BE REQUIRED FOR GREEN SPACE.

WHAT ARE THE BEST PRACTICES? WE ALSO ASK THE STAFF MEMBERS TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, CHECK OTHER CITIES WITHIN AS WELL AS OUTSIDE OF TEXAS.

THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION ABOUT HOW MUCH LAND IS, UH, LEFT, HOW MUCH THEY LAND IS LEFT IN THE CITY TO SEE WHETHER IT IS STILL NEEDFUL FOR US TO HAVE GREEN SPACE ORDINANCE OR NOT.

AND ALSO THERE WAS AN ISSUE ABOUT, UH, DO WE NEED AS A CITY TO HAVE SOME INCENTIVES FOR DEVELOPERS TO PROVIDE THESE GREEN SPACES.

SO IN TERMS OF, UH, REMAINING VACANT LAND, UH, THE CITY IS ABOUT 20% OF, UH, VACANT LAND THAT REMAINS.

AND THIS MAP BE SHOWING US THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE, UH, THE GREEN SPACE.

I MEAN THE VACANT SPACE THAT REMAINS.

SO THE AREAS IN YELLOW ARE ALL THE AREAS THAT ARE, THAT ARE NOT YET DEVELOPED.

AND UH, IT COULD BE A TOTAL OF 20% ACCORDING TO OUR GIS INFORMATION.

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SO AS FAR AS THE THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, UM, THIS ORDINANCE, UM, THE REASON FOR THE ORDINANCE WILL BE TO SATISFY THE, UH, STRATEGIC, UM, PLAN GOAL THAT THE CITY HAD FOR THE YEAR 2023.

GOAL NUMBER 10, THIS IS ALSO THE, UH, THE, THE ORDINANCE WILL BE BASED ON THE BEST PRAC MANAGEMENT PRACTICES FROM OTHER CITIES.

THE ORDINANCE WILL INCORPORATE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM YOU ALL ON THE, ON JULY 17TH.

AND IT, IT IS ALSO BASED ON THE, ON THE FURTHER RESEARCH THAT OUR STAFF DID BECAUSE STAFF WENT AHEAD AND, UH, GOT SOME INFORMATION FROM CITY SUCH AS, UM, FREE SCHOOL, PLANO, ATON, OVERTON PARK, WHICH IS IN KANSAS BORDER CITY, WHICH IS IN COLORADO, AS WELL AS, UH, GRAND PRAIRIE, LANCASTER, AS WELL AS RED OAK.

ONE MAY WONDER AND ASK AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE? WHY DO WE EVEN NEED GREEN SPACE? UH, AND THEY, THEY, AND THIS WILL BE PART OF OUR DEFINITION, THAT GREEN SPACES, THEY DO OFFER PUBLIC CON, UM, OFFER PUBLIC CONGREGATION AS WELL AS RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.

THESE GREEN SPACES ARE FOR USE AND ENJOYMENT OF DEVELOPMENTS, RESIDENTS, EMPLOYEES, AS WELL AS USERS.

THIS IS ALSO FOR THE BENEFIT OF USERS, SOCIAL, MENTAL AND PHYSICAL BENEFITS.

THEY'RE ALSO USED FOR THE PRESERVATION OF NATURAL AREAS AND RESOURCES AND REDUCE THE HEAT, HEAT, HEAT, ISLAND EFFECT, ENHANCING WHAT STORM WATER AS WELL AS AIR QUALITY AND, AND FLOOD MITIGATION.

AND THESE ARE THE GENERAL GUIDELINES BECAUSE WE ARE NOT JUST GOING TO HAVE A GREEN SPACES THAT ARE, THAT DON'T, DON'T HAVE PERIMETERS.

WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE DEVELOPERS WITH SOME GUIDELINES AS TO HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, TO, TO, TO, TO HAVE THESE, UH, GREEN SPACES.

AND THESE ARE THE, UH, GUIDELINES THAT STAFF WAS ABLE TO COME UP WITH THAT THESE ARE GREEN SPACES HAVE TO BE DESIGNED, IS A VITAL PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE LIKE AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

THAT UH, WHENEVER THERE IS A PORTION OF PIECE, A PIECE OF LAND THAT IS NOT DEVELOPABLE, THE DEVELOPER WILL SAY THIS WILL BE A GREEN SPACE.

BUT THEY HAVE TO BE A VITAL, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS THOUGHT THROUGH AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.

THERE WILL HAVE TO BE GREEN SPACES THAT COMPLEMENT AND CONNECT TO NEARBY GREEN SPACES.

THE GREEN SPACES HAVE TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL SITES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT IS AT LEAST LESS THAN 3.5 OR 0.3 MILES OR LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES WALK.

THEY HAVE TO BE COM COMPACT AND CONTIGUOUS AND A MINIMUM OF 1,500 SQUARE FEET.

THEY HAVE TO BE CLEARLY DEFINED AND SEPARATED FROM TR TRAFFIC, VE VEHICLE TRAFFIC THROUGH THE USE OF POLARS PLANTERS, INTEGRATED SEATS, SEAT WALLS OR BENCHES.

THESE, UH, GREEN SPACES, THEY HAVE TO BE CONNECTED TO WALKWAYS DESIGNED TO CREATE A COMFORTABLE, CONVENIENT, AND SAFE WALKING ENVIRONMENT.

THEY HAVE TO BE WIDE ENOUGH TO, TO ACCOMMODATE TREES, PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING, STREET LINE, STREET FURNITURE, AND OTHER FURNISHINGS.

FURNISHINGS.

THEY HAVE TO BE DESIGNED IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY ALLOW FOR FUTURE CONNECTIONS TO NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND ALSO THEY HAVE TO BE CONNECTED TO EXISTING OR PLANT TRAILS PARKS ENABLED.

AND THESE ARE THE STANDARDS THAT STAFF PUT ACROSS TO THE STANDARDS THAT WE NEED IN TERMS OF, UH, IN SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.

THESE ARE GREEN SPACES HAVE TO BE WITHIN A DISTANCE FROM A GREEN SPACE AREA.

FOR EXAMPLE, 80% OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS HAVE TO BE WITHIN EIGHT 800 FEET OF COMMON AREA.

AND THAT COMMON AREA AREA HAS TO BE 1,500 SQUARE FEET.

SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LIKE, WE DON'T WANT A SITUATION WHEREBY, UH, A DEVELOPER DESIGN THEY DEVELOPMENT AND THROW A GREEN SPACE RIGHT AT THE END WHEREBY THOSE PEOPLE, IT'S ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE AROUND THAT, UM, GREEN SPACE WILL BENEFIT MORE.

OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO MAYBE WALK, YOU KNOW, LONG, A LONG DISTANCE OR HAVE TO DRIVE TO.

WE WANT IT TO BE MORE OF A GREEN SPACE THAT IS WITHIN 800 FEET FOR THE 80 P 80% OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

AND THAT WILL TO MAKE SURE THAT ARE, BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER THEY'LL BE USABLE.

SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE USABLE, THEY HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN SIZE AND SIT.

UM, STAFF IS PROPOSING 1,500 SQUARE FEET AS A MINIMUM SIZE OF SUCH

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GREEN, GREEN, GREEN SPACES AND THAT, UH, WE HAVE TO REQUIRE ACCEPTABLE AMENITIES FOR, FOR THE CURRENT, UM, MULTIFAMILY AS WELL AS TOWN HOME REQUIREMENTS.

WE DO HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR OPEN SPACES, UM, GREEN SPACE FOR TOWN HOMES AND MULTIFAMILY.

HOWEVER WE HAVE, THERE IS NOT A CLEAR INDICATION OF WHAT EXACTLY AMENITIES THAT CAN RE BE REQUIRED IN THOSE TOWNHOMES OR IN THOSE, UH, MULTIFAMILY GREEN SPACE AREAS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE UM, 604 4 TOWNHOMES AND MULTIFAMILY.

WE DO HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR, UM, 600 SQUARE FEET FOR ONE BEDROOM UNIT AND 300 SQUARE FEET FOR EACH ADDITIONAL, UH, BEDROOM OVER ONE.

AND THIS IS THE SECTION THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT WE DO HAVE ALSO, UM, OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR MU MIXED USE ONE AS WELL AS MIXED USE TWO AS WELL AS WE DO HAVE WHAT IS CALLED MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

AND IN THESE UH, DISTRICTS WE DO HAVE 10% REQUIREMENT FOR MU ONE AND MU TWO.

WE HAVE 10%, UH, REQUIREMENT FOR GREEN SPACE.

BUT FOR MUR, WHICH IS THE UM, MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, WE DO HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR 20% OF THE NET LAND AREA.

SO IN THIS DISTRICT, THIS IS WHERE OUR STAFF IS SAYING THIS IS, I MEAN THE REQUIREMENT IS GOOD ENOUGH AS IT IS, HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE TO REQUIRE CERTAIN AMENITIES WITHIN THOSE, UH, GREEN SPACE AREAS.

AND MS. MS AZI, WHAT I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO DO, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT MY, AT THE IPAD AND I KNOW IT'S A, THIS IS A 25 PAGE, UH, UH, PRESENTATION.

SO WHAT I WOULD ASK IS, AND YOU WILL CERTAINLY DURING THE REGULAR SESSION GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE WHOLE PRESENTATION, BUT I DO KNOW WE ALSO HAVE THREE ITEMS ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

SO WHY DON'T WE STOP THERE.

COMMISSIONERS, WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK IS IF WE TABLE ANY QUESTIONS, IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU'LL CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO UH, BE ABLE TO ASK THOSE DURING THE REGULAR SESSION.

BUT I DO WANT TO GET TO THE OTHER THREE REGULAR ITEMS BEFORE WE GO INTO THE REGULAR SESSION.

SO AGAIN, DURING THE REGULAR SESSION, YOU'LL CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH ALL 25 PAGES.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET TO THE OTHER THREE ITEMS BEFORE WE START THE REGULAR SESSION.

SO IN THE REGULAR SESSION WE HAVE CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RE PLAT OF EAGLE PARK SOUTH EDITION, COMBINING TWO, UH, SEPARATE UH, PLA LOTS INTO ONE PLATTED LOT.

UH, THE PROPERTIES ARE LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING EAGLE PARK SOUTH TRACK THREE, UH, 0.1 BLOCK 12, 2.74 ACRES AND EAGLE PARK SOUTH PHASE TWO, 3.4, UH, SEVEN TWO ACRES.

BOTH PROPERTIES ARE ADDRESSED AT 600 EAST CENTER PARK, UH, BOULEVARD.

THE PROPERTIES ARE IN THE WILLIAM FOREMAN SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 4 62, CITY OF DESOTO, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS.

THE APPLICANT IS CON MORELL AND THE O UH, THE OWNER IS DUGAN TERMINALS OF TEXAS LLC.

THIS IS CASE NUMBER FP DASH 1244 DASH 23.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE.

CASE NUMBER FP 12 44 23 IS A REPL COMBINING TWO LOTS, TWO SEPARATE LOTS INTO ONE LOT.

THE SITE IS SITE IS 6.2 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EAST CENTER PARK BOULEVARD AND CONDO STREET.

IT IS ADDRESSED AS 600 EAST CENTER PARK BOULEVARD.

THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.

SO, SO THESE ARE THE TWO LOTS THAT ARE BEING COMBINED INTO ONE.

THIS IS THE ONE LOT ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THIS IS THE SECOND LOT ON THE NORTH SIDE.

PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH ARE ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THEY'RE VACANT.

AND PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS ZONED PLANT DEVELOPMENT 1 21 47 WITH SOME RESIDENCES ON IT.

AND ON THE EAST SIDE IS A PROPERTY ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THERE IS A WAREHOUSE.

THE APPLICATION, THE CURRENT APPLICATION IS A REQUEST TO COMBINE TWO LOTS INTO ONE LOT.

ACCESS TO THE PROPOSED LOT WILL BE FROM BOTH EAST CENTER PARK, BLUEFORD AND CONDO STREET.

THE APPLICANT IS WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE AND THE REPL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS CITY ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES.

THIS IS THE, THE, THE, UM, THE PLOT, THE REPL THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

SO THIS IS THE SOUTHERN PRO LOT AND THE NORTHERN LOT THAT IS BEING COMBINED INTO ONE LOT STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVE THE, APPROVE THE REPORT OF EAGLE PARK SOUTH PHASE TWO, BLOCK 12, LOT ONE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE BUILDING LINE ALONG CENTER PARK BELOW IS BE CHANGED FROM

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25 FEET TO 50 FEET PER SECTION, 32.4 B OF THE ZONING ORDINANCES.

THANK YOU MR. BREWER, DID YOU HAVE SOME ON THIS CASE? YEAH, JUST WANT TO ADD A LITTLE SOMETHING.

UM, YOU MAY NOTICE THIS PLAT LOOKS VERY BUSY WITH ALL THESE BOLD LINES, BUT THAT IS A REQUIREMENT.

WHAT THAT IS SHOWING IS WHERE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE SPECIAL HAZARD FLOOD AREA EXIST ON THIS TWO PROPERTIES.

THERE'S A CHANNEL THAT GOES THROUGH THIS, UH, PROPERTY.

NOW UNDERSTAND THAT BUILDING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME REQUIREMENTS, WHATEVER THEY TRY TO DEVELOP THERE.

THE PARKING LOT, IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST TWO FEET ABOVE OUR, THE BASE ELEVATION, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE SHOWN HERE.

SO THE, THE BAR ON THE LEFT AND I APOLOGIZE, UH, THERE IT IS.

THIS HASH LINE HERE IS THE OUTER LIMIT OF THE SPECIAL HAZARD ZONE.

IT IS CONSIDERED A ZONE AE, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY WANT TO DO DEVELOPMENT IN HERE, THAT THIS AREA WILL HAVE TO BE RAISED.

NOW THESE TWO LINES HERE IS WHAT'S CALLED A FLOODWAY.

THAT IS A RESTRICTED AREA THAT NOTHING CAN BE DONE IN THERE.

SO THEY WILL BE RESTRICTED, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF WHY THIS PARTICULAR REPLANT LOOKS SO BUSY INSTEAD OF HAVING JUST THE TYPICAL BORDERS AROUND.

ALRIGHT, THANKS SIR.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, WHICH IS CONSIDERED APPROVAL OF AMENDED PLAT FOR BAY VALLEY PROFESSIONAL CENTER BLOCK A LOTS ONE, A ONE, ONE, A TWO, AND 180 3 AMENDING PLAT NUMBER FOUR.

THE PROPERTY IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING LOTS 1 8 1 1 8 2 1 8 3 2 A AND THREE A BLOCK A IN THE BAY VALLEY PROFESSIONAL CENTER AND SITUATED IN THE FL ROAD SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 1 2 1 10.

THE APPLICANT OWNER IS PAULA CAPITAL LP AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER FP DASH 1242 DASH 23.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? CASE NUMBER F 12 42 23 IS AN AMENDED PLA FOR BAY VALLEY PROFESSIONAL CENTER BLOCK A LOTS ONE, A ONE, A ONE ONE, A TWO, ONE A THREE.

AND THIS IS AMENDING AMENDING PLOT NUMBER FOUR.

THE SITE IS 8.2 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY ZONED GR.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST WINTER GREEN ROAD AND WEST OF NORTH CORA HILL ROAD.

THIS IS THE SITE TO THE NORTHEAST, UH, CITY OF DUNCANVILLE TO THE SOUTH AND WEST IS UH, PLANT DEVELOPMENT HALL WITH SOME RESIDENCIES.

AND TO THE EAST IS PD 15 WITH VACANT LAND THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A PROOF OF FOR AN AMENDED PLA AMENDING PLOT FOR THE FOURTH TIME.

THE PURPOSE OF THE AMENDED PLAT NUMBER FOUR IS TO MODIFY DETENTION POND EASEMENT AND SH IS SHOWN ON THE CLOUDED IS ON THE ATTACHED AMENDED PLAT.

THE AMENDED PLA MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS WITH THIS, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.

THIS IS THE PLOT AND THIS IS THE, UM, THE AREA THAT IS CLOUDED IS THIS AREA RIGHT HERE.

THAT'S WHERE THE APPLICANT IS DOING THE, THERE'S SOME CHANGES TO THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT UM, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION, UM, APPROVE THE AMENDED PLA FOR VALUE FOR BAY VALLEY PROFESSIONAL CENTER.

YES, COMMISSION.

IN ORDER TO STILL ADD A LITTLE MORE CLARITY, UH, THIS WAS SHOWN AS THE CONCEPT PLAN.

THIS IS NOT THE FINAL REPLAY BECAUSE WHEN THE FINAL REPLAY GOES, IT'S NOT GONNA SHOW THESE.

THAT BUBBLE, THAT BUBBLE IS JUST TRYING TO HELP ILLUSTRATE TO YOU WHAT CHANGE THE APPLICANT IS DOING AT THIS POINT.

NOW WE'VE TOLD YOU THIS IS THE FOURTH AMENDMENT, BUT ACTUALLY IT'S THE FIFTH TIME IT'S COME THROUGH THE CITY.

THE ORIGINAL TIME THE PLAT GOT APPROVED.

AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO, AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE, AMENDMENT FOURTH.

THIS IS THE FIFTH TIME FOR YOUR INFORMATION.

THEY CAN COME TO US AS MANY TIMES AS THEY'D LIKE.

SO DON'T QUESTION THAT.

THEY ARE NOW GETTING IT.

THE VACANT, THE PROPERTY'S VACANT.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPING, THEY'RE HAVING THE ENGINEERS LOOK AT IT AND THE MORE THEY GET TECHNICAL THE MORE THEY REALIZE SOME OF THE THINGS THEY MAY HAVE FORECAST THEY DID NOT NEED.

WE ARE GONNA MAKE SURE THEY HAVE PROPER DRAINAGE WHEN THAT PROJECT COMES, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA NEED ALL OF THIS DRAINAGE THAT YOU SEE IN THIS SHADED AREA.

THAT'S WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY HAD SHOWN, BUT THEY WILL PROVIDE WHAT'S NEEDED.

SO THE FINAL PLA THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED WILL NOT HAVE THAT BUBBLE IN IT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR.

LAST

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ITEM ON THE REGULAR AGENDA IS CONSIDERED APPROVAL OF REVISED UH, PP DASH 3 4 3 DASH 22 PRELIMINARY PLAT HOMESTEAD AT DANIEL FARMS PHASE THREE, LOCATED SOUTH OF WEST DANIELDALE ROAD ON WEST OF NORTHWEST MOLAND ROAD.

UH, NINE 20 WEST DANIELDALE ROAD AT 2 0 5 1 NORTHWEST MELON ROAD.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? YES.

UH, COMMISSIONER CHARLES BREWER, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH IS WILDWOOD, UH, HAS ACTUALLY COME BACK TO US AGAIN.

THE ORIGINAL PD ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED, IT WAS LIKE IN 2020 AND IT ESTABLISHED THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU SEE HERE INTO UH, FOUR SECTIONS.

THE FIRST SECTION, WHICH IS TOTALLY BUILT OUT, PHASE ONE, THIS V-SHAPE HERE, WHICH IS UH, HAS BEEN COMPLETED AS FAR AS WATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND SEWER, UH, BLOOMFIELD.

IS THERE A BUILDER WHO'S BUILDING IN HERE NOW? AND NOW THIS AREA PLUS THIS AREA HERE, THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE TRACKS OF LAND THAT THEY ARE CALLING PHASE THREE.

AND JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE, IF YOU GO OVER HERE TO THE RIGHT SIDE, THIS IS WHAT THEY GONNA CONSIDER AS EAST, EAST PHASE ONE, EAST PHASE TWO.

BUT TONIGHT WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING IS THE REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT.

THEY HAVE ALREADY COME TO TO THIS COMMISSION BEFORE TO REPL THIS.

THEY'VE COME HERE, THEY'VE GOTTEN APPROVAL, IT'S GONE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, AGAIN, DESOTO REGULATIONS DO NOT ALLOW YOU TO HAVE FULL AUTHORITY ON APPROVING PRELIMINARY PLATS.

YOU HAVE FULL AUTHORITY ON RELAS AND FINAL PLATS, BUT ON THOSE INITIAL PRELIMINARY PLATS YOU HAVE RECOMMENDING AUTHORITY ONLY IN ORDER TO GO TO THE P UH, CITY COUNCIL.

BUT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TONIGHT IS GONNA BE THIS LITTLE SECTION HERE NOW JUST STILL GOING ON.

THIS IS JUST A MORE VISUAL UH, UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT PHASE THREE.

UH, AGAIN, IT'S TWO SECTIONS.

IT'S SECTION WEST HERE AND THIS SECTION HERE, BUT ALL THIS IS THREE.

BUT THIS CITY AREA, WHEN THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED, IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED WITH THE SIZE LOT BEING SF 10, 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.

UH, BUT THEN AS WE'RE GONNA SEE THE DEVELOPER, UM, DID COME BACK AND CREATED A PRELIMINARY PLAT IN JULY 22, WHICH DEFINED WHAT THAT CONCEPT PLANS WAS.

SO IT MADE IT TO WHERE EVERY ONE OF THESE LOTS WERE 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

THEN THEY CAME BACK, UH, LATER AND REQUESTED AT MAY OF THIS YEAR THAT THEY WANTED THE CITY TO CONSIDER ALLOWING THEM TO INCREASE THE DENSITY FOR THAT WESTERN PORTION OF PHASE THREE FROM 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.

THEY ASKED FOR A BASE ZONING OF SF EIGHT, WHICH IS 8,000 SQUARE FEET LOT.

BUT THEY ALSO ASKED, WHICH IS ALLOWED BY THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO BE ALLOWED TO DECREASE THAT LOT SIZE FROM 8,000 TO 6,000.

IT WAS APPROVED.

SO WHEN THEY, UH, IT CAME TO YOU, YOU MADE YOUR RECOMMENDATION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED IT.

THIS IS THAT UM, CONCEPT PLAN AND ACTUALLY WHAT IT SHOWS THIS AREA HERE, THESE LOTS THAT HAD BEEN UH, 80 BY SOME TYPE OF A HUNDRED FIGURE DID GET REDUCED TO 60 BY UM, I THINK IT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE, A HUNDRED TEN CONCEPTUALLY WISE.

THEN UM, THEY ALSO MADE A REQUEST.

WE WANT TO CHANGE WHAT WE HAD JUST SUBMITTED TO YOU IN MAY.

AND THAT REQUEST WAS SAYING THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING, UH, 35 BUILDABLE LOTS, WE WERE LIKE 36 AND THUS WE WANT TO CREATE THEM AS WIDTHS OF 60 BY 100, 110.

THIS IS THAT CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

AND IN ADDITION, THEY WERE SAYING INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS CUL-DE-SAC AT THE BOTTOM, WE WANT TO HAVE A STUB OUT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

SO ORIGINALLY IT WAS SHOWING THREE CUL-DE-SACS IN THIS WEST SIDE, BUT WHEN THEY CAME BACK, UH, FOR THAT REZONING BACK IN MAY AND JUNE, THEY'VE GOT THE DENSITY INCREASED, UH, FROM 29 TO 36 LOTS.

THE LOT SIZE IS REDUCED AND THEY STUB OUT THERE.

SO AFTER THAT CONCEPT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THEN THEY CAME BACK TO YOU AND YOU APPROVED THE, EXCUSE ME, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.

THEY'RE COMING BACK TO GET THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT REVISED.

AND WHAT I'VE GIVEN YOU IN YOUR PACKAGE IS THAT REVISED SITE PLAN.

NOW WHAT THEY HAVE TRIED TO DO IS ADD AN EXTRA LOT HERE AND WE SAID YOU'VE ONLY GOT APPROVED FOR 36 AND THAT'S ALL YOU CAN GO WITH THIS PROCESS.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE MY RED LINE MARKS AND SAYING NEED TO DELETE.

ALSO THIS NOTE, WE ALSO CAUGHT THEM ON THIS NOTE, THE FIRST GO AROUND.

THEY WERE TRYING TO DEDICATE ALL THEIR UH, OPEN LAND TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

WE SAY THAT WON'T FLY.

YOU GOTTA DELETE THAT AND SOME OTHER, UH, CORRECTIONS HERE.

ALRIGHT, AND MR. BREWER, I WANT YOU TO PUT A PEN IN IT.

YOU'LL BE ABLE TO COMPLETE YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT IT'S 6 59.

I KNOW WE ONLY HAVE A MATTER MATTER OF SECONDS LEFT.

IN FACT, LET'S TRANSITION RIGHT NOW.

IF EVERYONE PLEASE STAND.

[B. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

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THE TIME IS NOW 7:00 PM I WANNA WELCOME EVERYONE OUT TO THE TUESDAY OCTOBER 10TH, 2023.

UH, PLANNING IS ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.

UH, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

WE HAVE MS. CAESAR, MR. AV.

NOW MS. MR. RNE, MR. DUBER, MR. SHE AND MYSELF, MR. PUGH.

I WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEASURE OF ALLEGIANCE, OUR PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU MAY BE SEATED.

THE FIRST ITEM ON

[D. CONSENT AGENDA Any item may be withdrawn from the consent agenda and acted on separately. Approval of the Consent Agenda authorizes the approval of each item in accordance with Staff Recommendations.]

THE AGENDA COMMISSIONERS IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, UH, DATED SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2023.

I KNOW THERE WAS SOME MODIFICATIONS SUGGESTED IN THE WORK SESSION.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER MODIFICATIONS, UH, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST BE MADE TO THE MINUTES AGAIN DATED SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2023.

HEARING AND SEEING NONE.

IS THERE A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS MODIFIED? SO MOVED.

MR. CHAIR.

THE MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY MS. MS CAESAR.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND HAS BEEN, UH, SECONDED BY MR. RNE.

ANY UNREADINESS? ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED, SAY NAY.

THE AYES HAVE UNANIMOUSLY FIVE ZERO.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON

[1. Continue the Public Hearing from the September 26, 2023 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting and consider making a recommendation to the City Council for a request to obtain a Specific Use Permit (SUP) in order to establish and operate a "Used Auto Sales" on a property legally described as being Lot 24, Block C in the Clover Haven Addition (1209 Lyndon Avenue). The applicant is Jose C. Garcia and the property owners are Mayra Miranda and Jorge Luis Montoya Martinez. (Case No. Z-1504-23).]

TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

THE FIRST ITEM IS CONSIDER THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2023.

PLAN THE ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR REQUEST TO OBTAIN A, A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IN ORDER TO OBTAIN AND OPERATE A USED AUTO SALES ON PROPERTY LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING LIE 24 BLOCK C IN THE CLOVER HAVEN EDITION, UH, 1209 LONDON AVENUE.

THE APPLICANT IS JOSE C. GARCIA AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE OMAR MIRANDA AND JORGE LUIS MONTOYA MARTINEZ.

UH, THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z DASH 15 0 4 DASH 23.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? CASE NUMBER Z DASH 15 0 4 DASH 23 IS A SUP REQUEST FOR USED CAR SALES.

THE SITE IS 0.372 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL ONE.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LINDON AVENUE, 225 FEET EAST OF FRANKLIN AVENUE.

IT IS ADDRESSED AS 12 0 9 LINDEN AVENUE.

ON THE LEFT IS AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND ON THE RIGHT IS A VICINITY VIEW.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS VACANT PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST ARE ALSO VACANT AND CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL ONE.

THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IDENTIFIES THE SITE AS COMMERCIAL.

THE PROPOSED USE ORAL SALES IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OF 2015.

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ACCESSED FROM LYNDON AVENUE.

LYNDON AVENUE IS A LOCAL ROAD THAT IS NOT SHOWN ON A 2015 MASTER.

THE FAIR PLAN SECTION 35.2 OF THE ZONING REGULATIONS STATES THAT IN APPROVING A REQUESTED SUP, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING.

THE USE IS HARMONIOUS AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING EXISTING USES OR PROPOSED USE.

THE ACTIVITIES REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT ARE NORMALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE PERMITTED USE IN THE BASE DISTRICT.

THE NATURE OF THE USE IS REASONABLE.

ANY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREA HAS BEEN MITIGATED THAT ANY ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS SPECIFIED ENSURES THAT THE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT PROPOSES ARE BEING UPHELD.

THE REQUESTED USE IS NORMALLY ASSOCIATED WITH AUTOMOBILE AND RELATED USE IN THE C ONE DISTRICT AND IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING AND SURROUNDING USES IN THE GENERAL AREA.

THE USE OF USE AUTO SALES OPPOSE THE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT PURPOSE.

IN CONCLUSION, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS FOR USE AUTO SALES MEETS THE SECTION 35.2 REQUIREMENTS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL MUST CONSIDER WHEN APPROVING A SUP REQUEST ON SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2023.

A NOTICE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS PUBLISHED IN THE CITY'S PAPER FOR GENERAL CIRCULATION.

STAFF MAILED 36 NOTIFICATION LETTERS OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 AND 400 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

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AS OF OCTOBER 10TH, STAFF RECEIVED THREE NOTIFICATION LETTERS BACK IN OPPOSITION FOR THE SUP REQUEST ON SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2023.

THE APPLICANT REQUESTED THAT THE COMMISSION TABLE THE HEARING AND CONTINUE ON OCTOBER 10TH, 2023 SO THAT THE ENGINEER ASSOCIATED WITH THE CASE ZONING CASE Z DASH 15 0 4 23 KENAN STAFF UPDATED SITE LANDSCAPE AND ELEVATION PLANS FOR REVIEW.

HERE IS THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN AFTER THE FIRST, UM, COMMENTS FROM STAFF.

HERE'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, THE AFTER THE SECOND, AFTER THE FIRST REVIEW FROM, UH, STAFF COMMENTS AND HERE IS THE SUBMITTED ELEVATED PLANS AFTER THE FIRST COMMENTS FROM STAFF.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ACCEPT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE NEXT REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING ON OCTOBER 24TH, 2023.

THANK YOU MS. JORDAN WILLIAMS. COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE? AND, UH, JUST OUT OF ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO BE HEARD ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE? OKAY.

SEEING AND HEARING NONE, UH, COMMISSIONERS, IS THERE A MOTION, UH, TO CONTINUE, UH, THIS PARTICULAR PUBLIC HEARING TO A DATE CERTAIN, WHICH WILL BE OCTOBER 24TH, 2023? HERE'S THERE A MOTION.

MR. REVENUE? YES, I MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE NUMBER Z 1 15 0 4 DASH 23 UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING OF OCTOBER THE 24TH.

2023.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR.

IT IS BEEN MOVED.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. CHAIR.

OKAY.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY OUR COMMISSIONER CAESAR.

IS THERE ANY UNREADINESS? ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? DO THE SAME AND SAY NAY.

AYES HAVE IT.

FIVE ZERO.

THANK YOU.

VERY MUCH.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT, UH, PUBLIC HEARING, UH, WHICH

[2. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider making a recommendation to the City Council for the applicant's request to rezone a 5.529-acre tract of land legally described as being part of Tract 20 in the John Lewis Survey, Abstract 774 (1119 Uhl Road) from existing Single Family-10 (SF-10) to a Planned Development (PD) with base zoning district of Single Family-8 (SF-8) with one deviation. The applicant is Roc Design Engineering and the property owners are Ronnell Johnson and Jonathan Ortega. (Case No. Z-1503-23).]

IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO REZONE A 5.529 ACRE TRACK OF LAND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING PART OF TRACK 20 AND THE JOHN LEWIS SURVEY ABSTRACT 7 7 4 11 19 UOO FROM THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY, 10 SF 10 TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF SINGLE FAMILY EIGHT SF EIGHT WITH ONE DEVIATION.

THE APPLICANT IS ROCK DESIGN ENGINEERING AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE RONELL JOHNSON AND JONATHAN ORTEGA.

AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1 5 0 3 DASH 23.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT, PLEASE? GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSIONER RAD WITH THE PLANNING DIVISION, CASE NUMBER Z 15 0 3 23 IS A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST WITH THE BEST ZONING DISTRICT OF SINGLE FAMILY EIGHT WITH ONE DEVIATION.

THE SITE IS 5.5 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY 10.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON AT THE NORTH NORTHWEST CORNER OF BLUE BONNET DRIVE AND SOUTH U ROAD.

IT IS ADDRESSED AS 1 1 1 9 SOUTH YOUR ROAD.

THIS IS, SORRY.

DO WE DO IT? THAT'S NOT THE CORRECT.

IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE CORRECT, THAT'S NOT THE CORRECT.

MY APOLOGIES FOR THAT.

THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP.

IT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE, IN THE, UM, IN THE WORK SESSION.

THIS PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION ONLY GOES UP TO HERE.

THIS PORTION IS, IS NOT WITHIN THE AREA THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

SO THIS PROPERTY, AGAIN, GOES UP TO HERE, RIGHT HERE.

AND, UH, WE DID, UH, SEND THE CORRECT, UM, UH, NOTIFICATIONS FOR THE, FOR THE RIGHT SIZE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TO THE NORTH ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY 10 WITH SOME RESIDENCIES AND VACANT LAND TO THE SOUTH AND WEST.

WE DO HAVE PD 78 WITH SOME RESIDENCIES AND TO THE EAST THERE IS THE PROPERTIES, THERE IS ZONED AGRICULTURE AND IT'S A CITY PARK.

THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNED NESS.

THIS AREA IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THE PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

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THIS PROPERTY ACCESSED FROM ARU BONNET DRIVE AS WELL AS SOUTH Y ROAD AND UB BON DRIVE IS A LOCAL ROADWAY THAT IS NOT SHOWN ON THE 2 20 15 MASTER THERAPY PLAN.

AND SOUTH Y ROAD IS CURRENTLY A TWO LANE ROAD THAT IS ANTICIPATED TO BE FOUR LANE ARTERIO ROAD ON THE MASTER THERAPY PLAN.

AGAIN, THE CURRENT, UH, REQUEST IS FOR A NEW PD WITH SINGLE FAMILY BASED ZONING WITH, WITH EARLY DEVIATION FOR THREE LOTS.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY SOLD, SINGLE FAMILY 10 AND IS 5.5 ACRES IN SIZE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 19 HOMES AND IS REQUESTING DEVIATIONS DEVIATION FROM SECTION 9.40 3.2 OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AS WELL AS SECTION 38.2 D OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

THESE BOTH SECTIONS REFER TO EARLY REQUIREMENT AND PROHIBITS FRONT FACING GARAGES.

WHILE THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING EARLY DEVIATION FROM THREE OF THE 19 LAWS, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING SITE ENTRY GARAGES FOR THE THREE HOMES TO THE, TO MEET BOTH THE SUBDIVISION AND THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

STAFF SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR DEVIATION FROM EARLY REQUIREMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CONCEPT PLAN DUE TO DIFFERENT PROPER OWNERSHIP.

DETENTION LOCATION HAS NOT YET BEEN DETERMINED AND WILL BE RESOLVED AT THE PLANTING AND CIVIL ENGINEERING STAGE.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED, UH, CONCEPT PLAN AND THE DEVIATION THAT IS BEING REQUESTED FOR THE THREE LAWS IS RIGHT HERE WHERE WE DO HAVE THESE THREE LAWS.

THESE THREE LAWS WILL NOT HAVE, UM, EARLY, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCES AS WELL AS SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR EARLY DEVIATION AS WELL AS FOR THESE THREE LAWS.

THE APPLICANT WILL BE HAVING A SITE ENTRY GARAGES, SO THEY WILL BE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS THAT REQUIRES THAT, UH, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY GARAGES THAT FACE THE, THE, THE, THE, UM, STREET.

SO THESE LAWS WILL MEET THE SUBDIVISION ZONING ORDINANCE JUST THAT THEY CANNOT MEET, THEY CANNOT HAVE THE IES FOR THOSE THREE LAWS AND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS, UM, PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS SUB SUBJECT WAS, WAS PUBLISHED IN ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2023 AND 58.

UM, NOTICES WENT OUT TO PROPER OWNERS WITHIN 200 AND 400 FEET AND NO LETTERS WE, WE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, BUT THERE WAS ONE LETTER THAT WAS RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT, UH, THE COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PROPOSED PD AND THE REQUESTED DEVIATION IS SUBMITTED AND STAFF WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. M AND MR. BREWER, UH, COMMISSION AND, UH, CHARLES BOARD DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICE.

I DO WANNA READ INTO RECORD ONE STRONG REQUIREMENT THAT I HAVE TO BE SURE IS RECORDED.

UH, THAT REQUIREMENT FOR DETENTION POND, UH, STATEMENT WILL BE INCLUDED UH, AFTER IT GOES FROM YOU TO CITY COUNCIL IN THE ORDINANCE.

UH, TO READ SOMETHING IN THE GENERAL AREA, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL NEED TO PROVIDE REQUIRED STORMWATER MANAGEMENT BY APPROPRIATE MEANS SUCH AS DETENTION POND AREA.

THE EXACT AREA AND LAYOUT OF THE DETENTION POND AREA WILL BE DETERMINED AT THE PLATTING RELATED APPLICATION STAGE.

THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, FINAL PLAT AND SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT PLAN WILL INCLUDE NECESSARY DRAWINGS AND CALCULATIONS FOR THE DETENTION POND AREA NECESSARY TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S TRANSIT DESIGN MANUAL AND THE APPLICABLE SECTION OF THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCE.

JUST SO THE RECORD WILL SHOW THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED TO THE APPLICANT THAT THIS WILL BE A REQUIREMENT, WE ARE AN MS FOUR MUNICIPAL STORM SEPARATE SEWER SYSTEM.

UH, ONE OF OUR, UH, STORM WATER REGULATIONS ESTABLISHED THAT WE ARE MANDATED TO ENSURE POST VERSUS PRE-CONSTRUCTION RUNOFF.

THAT'S JUST FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF MR. RAVENEL? UH, YES, MR. BREWER, COULD YOU COME BACK AND I SHOULD HAVE ASKED YOU THIS EARLIER AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T THINK TO ASK YOU ON THE SITE MAP WHERE THE LITTLE CAR CARVE OUT THE NOTCH OUT MY EYESIGHT IS REALLY BAD, BUT CAN YOU, DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH THAT REDUCES THOSE TWO LOTS? AND WILL THOSE LOTS STILL BE 8,000 SQUARE FEET OR THEY'RE GONNA BE REDUCED UNDER THAT? THEY ARE MANDATED IF THE BASE ZONING IS SF EIGHT, THAT SINCE THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, A REQUEST FOR

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DEVIATION, THAT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THAT PLANNING TIME, BOTH OF THOSE LOTS WILL HAVE A MINIMUM LOT, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 8,000 SQUARE FEET.

OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, UM, BEFORE WE COMES TO VOTE HOW THOSE LOTS ARE IMPACTED BY THAT CARVE CARVE OUT.

GO.

OKAY.

WHEN YOUR TIME COMES.

OKAY, NO PROBLEM.

WHEN UNDERSTOOD.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.

HEARING AND SENATE NONE, WE'RE ABOUT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE DO, IF THERE'S ANY PARTY IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS CASE OR ANY OTHER CASE EITHER IN FAVOR OF OPPOSITION OF, THERE'S MR. TRENT CARROLL TO MY LEFT YOUR RIGHT TRAINING.

IF YOU WAIVE YOUR HAND, HE WILL HAVE A COMMENT CARD FOR YOU.

IF YOU PLEASE FILL THAT COMMENT CARD OUT AND YOU CAN BE HEARD WHETHER IT'S RELATED TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING OR ANY OTHER PUBLIC HEARING WE HAVE SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE GOING TO NOW OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1 5 0 3 DASH 23 AT 7:16 PM THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

UH, IF THE APPLICANT IS IN ATTENDANCE, UH, THE APPLICANT, YOU CAN COME FORWARD, UH, AND STATE YOUR POSITION ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO SO, BUT NOW'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY OR IF THERE'S ANY OTHER, UH, CITIZEN WHO LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER IN OPPOSITION OR IN FAVOR OF THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.

NOW IS YOUR TIME.

YES SIR.

IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME, CITY OF RESIDENCE PLEASE.

I HAVE MAGGI KOFF, UH, YOU LIVE IN SUNNYVALE, TEXAS AND I'M THE ENGINEER ON THE JOB.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER THE COMMISSIONER, UH, QUESTION ABOUT THE UH, AREA.

LET'S SEE.

LOT NUMBER THREE.

IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT, IT'S A LITTLE SMALL, BUT IT'S UH, 8,900 SOMETHING SQUARE FEET LOT NUMBER TWO IS 88 0 7 SQUARE FEET.

LOT NUMBER ONE IS 83 58 SQUARE FEET SO THAT ALL OTHER 8,000 SQUARE FEET.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANKS SIR.

ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN ATTENDANCE WHO'D LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? MR. BREWER? I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE OTHER THING.

UH, PARTICULARLY FOR COMMISSIONER BROOKS WHO GENERALLY ASKED THE QUESTION.

STAFF DID REQUEST THE, UH, APPLICANT AND HIS ENGINEER TO PROVIDE US A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DETERMINATION WORKSHEET THAT WAS PROVIDED.

UH, AND IT DID IDENTIFY THAT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT PROJECT DID NOT TRIGGER THE NUMBERS, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN 100 VEHICLES PER HOUR OR 1000 VEHICLES PER DAY.

AND THUS BECAUSE IT DID NOT MEET THOSE THRESHOLDS, THIS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR FOR THAT INFORMATION.

COMMISSIONERS.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REGARDING THIS AGENDA ITEM? AND AGAIN, IS THERE ANY OTHER MEMBER, UH, IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WANTS TO BE HEARD ON THIS, UH, AGENDA ITEM? ALRIGHT, HEARING AND SEEING NONE AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:18 PM UH, COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY, UH, FURTHER COMMENTS OR IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE? ALRIGHT, HEARING AND SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO CASE NUMBER Z DASH 15 0 3 DASH 23? IS THERE A MOTION MS. CAESAR? YES, MR. CHAIR? UM, I MOVE THAT WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1,503 DASH 23 OKAY, THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND HAS BEEN MOOD, UH, AND PROPERTY SECOND BY, UH, VICE CHAIR REV.

NOW, UH, IS THERE ANY UNREADINESS? ALRIGHT, NO UN READINESS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? DO THE SAME AS SAY NAY.

THE AYES HAVE IT, UH, FIVE TO ZERO.

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE NEXT

[3. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider making a recommendation to the City Council of a request to amend Planned Development-125 (PD-125) in order to allow a four (4) story hotel (Home 2 by Hilton) with deviations to be developed on property that is legally described as being Lot 5A1 and Lot 5B, Quorum Wheatland Medical Addition. The property consists of 2.64 acres of land and is addressed as 2700 and 2716 Highway 67. The applicant is Hiren Desai and the property owner is Stonewood Hotels, LLC. (Zoning Case No. Z-1505-23)]

ITEM ON OUR, UH, AGENDA, WHICH IS CONSIDER OR CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL OF A REQUEST TO AMEN PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 2 5.

PD 1 2 5.

IN ORDER TO ALLOW A FOUR STORY HOTEL HOME, TWO BY HILTON WITH DEVIATIONS TO BE DEVELOPED ON A PROPERTY THAT IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING LOT FIVE A ONE AND LOT FIVE B QUORUM, WHEATLAND MEDICAL EDITION, THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF 2.64 ACRES OF LAND AND IS ADDRESSED AS 2 7 0 0 AND AND 2 7 1 1 6 HIGHWAY 67.

THE APPLICANT IS HIRING DESAI AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS STONE WOOD HOTELS, LLC.

THIS IS ZONING CASE Z DASH 15 0 5 DASH TWO THREE.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE.

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CASE NUMBER Z 15 0 5 23 IS A REQUEST TO AMEND PD 1 25 TO ALLOW FOR A FOUR STORY HOTEL WITH SOME DEVIATIONS.

THE SITE IS COMPOSED OF TWO LOTS WITH A TOTAL OF 2.64 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY SOLD PD 1 25 WITH OFFICE TWO AS THE BASE ZONING.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE EAST SIDE OF US HIGHWAY 67 AND SOUTH OF EAST WHITLAND ROAD.

IT IS ADDRESSED AS TWENTY SEVEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY SEVEN SIXTEEN US HIGHWAY 67.

THESE ARE THE TWO PROPERTIES, THE TWO LOTS THAT ARE BEING COMBINED TO TO TO, FOR THIS HOTEL DEVELOPMENT AND TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED PD 1 25 AND THERE'S A DENTAL OFFICE TO THE SOUTH AND WEST OF THIS PROPERTIES.

UH, SEAT OF DUNCANVILLE TO THE EAST IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 25 WITH VACANT LAND AND A HOTEL.

THE FUTURE AND USE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS SITE IS SUITABLE FOR OFFICE AND RETAIL.

THE PROPOSED HOTEL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE ANDES PLAN OF THE 20,002 20,015 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

ACCESS TO THIS SITE IS PROVIDED FROM US HIGHWAY 67 AND BARRYMORE LANE, WHICH IS IN THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE.

THE CITY OF OTTO DOES NOT HAVE ANY ROADWAYS THAT BORDER THIS PROPERTY.

AGAIN, THE CURRENT REQUEST IS TO AMEND PD 1 25 IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR A FULL STORY HOTEL WITH SOME DEVIATIONS.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED PD 1 25 WITH OFFICE TWO A SPACE ZONING PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 25 AND OFFICE TWO BOTH ALLOW HOTELS BY RIDE AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A FOUR STORY HOTEL WITH KITCHENAID FACILITIES.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE FOLLOWING AMENITIES, LOUNGE, LOBBY AND BREAKFAST AREA, OUTDOOR LOUNGE AND GREETING AREA, FRONT FIRE PIT AND GATHERING AREA, OUTDOOR POOL, MEETING ROOM, MARKET GRIP AND AND GO FITNESS, FITNESS ROOM, BUSINESS CENTER AND GUEST AND STAFF LAUNDRY ROOMS. AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO ASKING FOR THE FOLLOWING DEVIATION, UH, DEVIATION FROM UM, PARKING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS DEVIATION FROM PLACE TO DINE AND DEVIATION FROM BUILDING SETBACKS.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A AREA OF 2,460 SQUARE FEET FOR LOUNGE AND LOBBY, INCLUDING DINING AREA IN PLACE OF PROVIDING A FULL SIZE RESTAURANT.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING 1,100 100 SQUARE FEET MEETING SPACE FOR A FOUR STORY HOTEL WITH 124 GUEST ROOMS. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING 140 PARKING SPACES INSTEAD OF THE REQUIRED 158 THEREFORE BEING FALLING SHORT OF 18 SPACES.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO ASKING FOR A DEVIATION FROM 25 FEET TO FIVE FEET IN IN TERMS OF, UH, THE SETBACK THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE EAST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY WHERE THERE IS A PROPOSED POOL.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN AND THE DEVIATION FOR, FOR THE, FOR THE, UM, SETBACK IS RIGHT, RIGHT ALONG THIS PROPERTY LINE.

INSTEAD OF THE 25 FEET, UH, SET BACK, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR FIVE FEET BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF A POOL RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED, UM, LANDSCAPE PLAN.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED ELEVATION PLAN AND ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2023, A PUBLIC HEARING APPEARED IN DAILY FOCUS.

NEWSPAPER STAFF MAILED 11 NOTIFICATION TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 AND 400 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

NO LETTERS WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 25 AMENDMENT SUBJECT TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF GUEST ROOMS TO ENABLE THE APPLICANT TO HAVE THE REQUIRED PARKING WITH LARGE SIZE AMENITIES WHILE MEETING THE REQUIRED SETBACKS.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE WITH US AND UH, THEY HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO MAKE TO THE COMMISSION.

THANK YOU MS. AZI.

MR. BREWER? YEAH, COMMISSION.

I FORGOT TO, UH, GO IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT PARKING

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AND LET ME KIND OF GO BACK ON BEST'S PRESENTATION.

UM, SHE'S SHOWING 18 AND ACTUALLY 158 MINUS ONE 30 IS 28.

BUT I HAD ACTUALLY BEEN SPEAKING WITH THE APPLICANT AND HE HAS REVISED HIS UH, COUNT.

UM, BUT LET ME HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT TO THAT COUNT, UH, BY OUR PARKING REGULATIONS AND OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.

IF A, UH, A UM, ROOM THAT HAS A KITCHENETTE EXISTS IN THE HOTEL, THERE IS A FACTOR IDENTIFIED 1.1 TIMES THE NUMBER OF ROOM.

AGAIN, THIS IS PROPOSING 124 ROOMS. SO 1.1 TIMES 1 24 IS GONNA BE 136.4.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ROUNDED IT TO 1 37.

THE OTHER REQUIREMENT IS BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF MEETING ROOM AREAS, THEY HAVE COMMUNICATED TO US THAT FOR THE SINGLE MEETING ROOM THAT THEY WILL HAVE, IT'S ABOUT, IT'S 1,170 SQUARE FEET.

WE MULTIPLY THAT BY ONE PARKING SPACE PER 125 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS 9.36.

UM, SO EITHER WE STAY NINE OR 10, HOWEVER YOU DO YOUR MATH.

AND THE LAST ONE IS DEALING WITH HOTEL LOUNGE AREA.

THEY COMMUNICATED TO US THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE 60 SEATS.

SO OUR FORMULA IS ONE PARKING SPACE PER FIVE SEATS, SO THAT WOULD BE 12 PARKING LOTS.

SO WHEN YOU ADD THE 37 9 OR 10 PLUS 12, IT SHOWS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE 158, WHICH WHAT SHE SHOWED, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS COMMUNICATED TO ME THAT UH, THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET WITH THEIR ENGINEER AND DETERMINE THAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE ABLE TO COME UP WITH 140 PARKING SPACES.

SO THEIR DEVIATION REQUEST WILL ACTUALLY BE TO BE ALLOWED, UM, TO HAVE 148 INSTEAD OF, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, 140 INSTEAD OF WE'LL SAY THE 158.

SO THEY WILL BE SHORT 18, WHICH GETS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, BEST'S NUMBER.

SO I JUST WANT TO, UH, GIVE YOU THAT.

ALSO, I WANNA REPORT FOR THE RECORD THAT THE CITY'S ZONING ORDINANCE THAT THIS BASE ZONING PD IS IN IS OFFICE TWO.

UH, THE REGULATIONS DO ESTABLISH THAT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR UH, STRUCTURES IN AN OH TWO OFFICE DISTRICT TWO IS EIGHT STORIES.

SO THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR FOUR STORIES IS COMPLIANT.

ALSO, A KEY THING TO IDENTIFY IS THAT IN THE GENERAL PURPOSE AND DESCRIPTION SECTION OF THIS, UM, SECTION 27, IT DOES IDENTIFY THAT THESE AREAS MUST ALSO BE LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE OR FREEWAY.

AND THIS APPLICANT APPLICATION DOES, UH, ADHERE TO THAT.

ALSO, PLEASE NOTE, AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN, THIS PROPERTY IS LANDLOCKED SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT IT'S GONNA BE ABLE TO OBTAIN ANY MORE LAND ON ANY SIDE.

IT IS WHAT IT IS.

AND SO THAT'S WHY HIS DEVIATION REQUESTS ARE UNDERSTOOD BY STAFF.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, MR. BIRD, DON'T GO ANYWHERE BECAUSE I'M SURE, I'M SURE WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

.

I TRY.

YEAH, YOU TRY, YOU YOU TRY, YOU HALFWAY THERE.

UH, UH, AT THIS TIME COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? AND MS. CAESAR, I KNOW YOU HAVE ONE, SO GO RIGHT AHEAD.

I DO, I DO.

MR. CHAIR.

MR. BRULE, UH, THE ROADWAY, YOU SAY THE PROPERTY IS LANDLOCKED AND I HEAR, UH, MR. BEST SAY THAT THERE WAS NO ROAD IN OR NO ROAD OUT.

COULD, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME PLEASE? YES.

TERM TERMINOLOGY PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

WHEN I REFERENCE AS LANDLOCKED, IF, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, PUT THESE TWO LOTS TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO, WILL YOU FOLLOW WHERE I AM? YES SIR.

OKAY.

THE PROPERTY AROUND IT IS ALREADY DEVELOPED IN THIS SQUARE HERE YOU ALREADY HAVE AN EXISTING FOUR STORY HOTEL THAT I INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE.

AND THEN THEY HAVE OTHER BUILDINGS AND DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT'S NO WAY THAT WITH FIVE A ONE AND FIVE B THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO ATTAIN ANY MORE PROPERTY FOR PARKING SPACES.

I WANTED YOU TO, TO KNOW THAT ROAD WISE.

NOW WHILE THIS MAP IS SHOWING TRAVIS ROAD HERE, THAT'S ACTUALLY A PRIVATE DRIVE.

IT'S NOT A PUBLIC STREET, IT'S A DRIVE.

UH, SAME THING THAT'S GOING OUT UP HERE.

IT'S A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY.

IT IS NOT DESIGNED TO CITY STANDARDS.

THE ONLY ROADS THAT THAT BOARD OF THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE THIS ROAD ON THE SIDE.

WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT STREET AGAIN? BARRY MOORE, WHICH IS A ROAD THAT'S IN THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE AND US 67.

THIS FRONTAGE ROAD, WHICH IS ALSO, UH, NOT DEEMED IN THE CITY OF, UM, DESOTO.

SO THE PROPERTY CAN'T GROW.

IN CASE YOU WERE THINKING, WELL, MAYBE WE NEED TO TELL 'EM TO GET SOME MORE LAND IN ORDER TO MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, THEIR STRUCTURE, WHICH, WHICH THEIR, UH, ENGINEER W WILL SPEAK ABOUT, UM,

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IS THAT MODEL FOR THE HILTON, IT IS DEFINED WITH THAT DIMENSIONS, THAT NUMBER ROOM.

BUT YOU CAN GET IN THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM.

MR. VENO? UH, YES.

MR. BREWER.

UH, COULD YOU GO TO THE LAST SLIDE OF HER PRESENTATION? THE RECOMMENDATION? YES.

SO WHEN, IF A MOTION IS COMING FORTH, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO THEM REDUCING THE NUMBER OF GUEST ROOMS. IS THAT HOW WE'RE TO, TO CONSIDER THIS? THAT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION, YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'M SAYING IS THE APPLICANT WILL END UP TELLING YOU THAT, UH, THEY HAVE A DEFINED STRUCTURE BY THE HILTON AND THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.

SO THEY ARE COMING TO YOU WITH THIS STRUCTURE, THIS SIZE, WITH THIS NUMBER OF ROOMS REQUESTING DEVIATIONS FROM THE CITY FOR PARKING AND THAT REAR SIDE YARD WHERE THEY WANNA DO THEIR POOL.

THIS IS THEIR PRODUCT.

OKAY.

AND JUST FOR CLARITY HERE, MY MY QUESTION IS, UH, IF THEY CAN, UH, COMPLY WITH THE 25 FOOT SETBACK, IS IT STILL STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT WE RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL? UH, UH, FOR APPROVAL? OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S TO MR. DALE'S POINT.

OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPLY, UH, WITH THE CURRENT REQUIREMENT INSTEAD OF FIVE MAKING IT 25? OR IS IT STAFF'S SOLELY? WE'RE CLEAR ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF.

IS STAFF RECOMMENDING TO US THAT EVEN IF IT'S A FIVE FOOT SETBACK, YOU'RE STILL RECOMMENDING TO US THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL? YEAH, WE'RE FINE WITH IT AGAIN, UH, THE AREA IS WHERE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THIS POOL AGAIN.

UP HERE IS US 67.

THIS POOL IS GONNA BE ADJACENT TO A PRIVATE DRIVE.

SO IT'S NOT A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THAT WE ARE WORRIED.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT A MAJOR, IT'S NOT A ROADWAY, WHICH WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE A 50 OR 60 FOOT ROADWAY AND THAT'S A PART OF THAT 25 FOOT BUMPER AREA.

SO WE DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THEIR ASKING FOR LENIENCY TO DECREASE THAT IMAGINARY BUILDING LINE THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BUILD OVER FROM 25 TO 20 TO HAVE THEIR POOL AND GRILLING AND LOUNGE AREA BACK THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT SITE.

MR. SO, SO IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT STAFF IS SAYING YOU ARE OKAY WITH THE REDUCTION IN PARKING SPACES AND THE REASON I NO, WE WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE OKAY.

WE'RE BRINGING YOU FACTS.

OKAY.

WE WE'RE GOING TO, THE REASON I ASK THAT IS BECAUSE I'VE HAD OCCASION TO GO TO THE HOTEL NEXT TO, AND SOME YOU CAN'T FIND PARKING SPACES THERE SOMETIMES.

SO I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THEY CAN'T MEET OUR MINIMUM, UM, EXPECTATION ON PARKING.

YOU'RE CORRECT.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE COMING TO REQUEST THE DEVIATION.

THEY HAVE 124 ROOMS. THEY HAVE STAFF, THEY HAVE GUESTS, BUT THAT IS THEIR REQUEST.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. BREW.

MM-HMM, .

ALRIGHT COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. KELLY? I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

WITH RESPECT TO THE SETBACK FOR THE POOL AREA, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT LOOKS LIKE THE PROPERTY FROM TRAVIS STREET, BUT IS THERE ANY CONCERN ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD TURN IN AND THAT THAT SETBACK WOULD BE RIGHT THERE AS THERE'S AN ENTRY? I, I WOULD SAY LET THERE BE A QUESTION YOU ASK THE APPLICANT.

OKAY.

BUT THEY HAVE SHOWN US ON THE SITE PLAN, THEY'RE PROPOSING PARKING SPACES HERE ALONG THIS AREA HERE.

WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE ACCESS FROM THE OUTSIDE OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE TO ACCESS THE POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE HOTEL, THEY WOULD BE BEST TO IDENTIFY THAT.

AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE, I MEAN THEY, THEY'VE GOT DOORS I'M SEEING OVER HERE AND ON THE SIDE, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO MORE INTO DETAIL OF WHERE THEIR EXIT DOORS ARE.

YEP.

I, I APOLOGIZE.

I WASN'T REFERENCING EXIT DOORS FROM THE HOTEL I WAS REFERENCING EXIT, UM, RIGHT OF WAYS OR EXIT, UM, SPACES FROM TRAVIS STREET ONTO THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

JUST IF IT, IF IT WAS RIGHT THERE NEXT TO IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WOULD BE SOME RISK THAT IT WAS.

BUT PLEASE NOTE AGAIN, TRAVIS STREET IS NOT A STREET.

OKAY.

IT'S A DRIVE, BUT IT'S IDENTIFIED AS THAT IF YOU GO UP THERE, UH, IN YOUR PACKAGES, I INCLUDED A PHOTO AND IT'S GONNA

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SHOW YOU HOW THE STREET SIGNS ARE GREEN.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S JUST THEM PUTTING UP FOR SOME REFERENCING FOR THEIR COMPANY, THEIR GUESTS, BUT IT JUST NEITHER, UH, IT'S THE PROPERTY IS IN THE CITY OF DESOTO AND THAT IS NOT A DEDICATED STREET OR THE ONE THAT THEY CALL, WHAT'S THAT GOING UP WALKER WALKER WAY? THIS ONE HERE.

THAT'S NOT A PUBLIC STREET EITHER.

IT'S A DRIVE ALL OF THIS COM AREA.

IT IS A PART OF THAT PD AND THEY HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS DRIVING THROUGH.

OKAY.

WE DON'T CONTROL THE SPEED LIMIT THAT'S GOING THROUGH, IT'S ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY.

OKAY.

BUT THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL PROBABLY ABOUT THAT QUESTION THAN I COULD.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME.

MR. DUBER.

THE, UH, WHEN I WENT UP THERE AND LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY, I DID NOTICE THAT THOSE ARE DRIVES AND THERE'S ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE.

MM-HMM.

THAT YOU JUST POINTED OUT.

THERE IS NO OVERFLOW PARKING IN THOSE DRIVES BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL MARKED FIRE LANES.

SO THAT'S A PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT WE MAY NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, WHEN WE MAKE OUR DECISION.

UH, CAN'T PARK IN A FIRE LANE, IT'S AGAINST THE LAW AND IT'S AN EXPENSIVE CITATION WHEN YOU GET ONE.

SO LET'S DEFINITELY ASK THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEER, HAVE THEY TAKEN INTO THE ACCOUNT WHERE THEY'RE EVEN SHOWING SOME OF THEIR PARKING SPACES? ARE THEY DOABLE PARKING SPACES? 'CAUSE THEY MAY NOT EVEN BE DOABLE BECAUSE OF THE FIRE LANE.

STAFF DID NOT CATCH THAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT.

MR. REVENUE? YES, MR. BREWER, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WOULD YOU GO OVER AGAIN THE SETBACKS FOR THE POOL? IS THE POOL GOING TO BE FIVE FEET OR 20 FEET FROM THE ROAD? WHEN WE SAY SETBACK, YOU'LL REALLY SEE IT WHEN A PLAT COMES TO YOU.

A SETBACK IS A RESTRICTIVE LINE THAT A DEVELOPER CANNOT BUILD OVER.

IT CREATES A DISTANCE FROM A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR A SIDE YARD.

IN THIS CASE, EITHER US 67 OR THE STREET HERE COULD BE DEEMED AS THEIR FRONT, BUT WHICHEVER ONE THEY DEFINE AS THE FRONT, WE WILL SEE IT ON THE PLAT.

SO LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, WE WILL STRONGLY ASSUME THAT THEIR FRONT IS GOING TO BE US 67 SINCE THAT'S THE OPENING TO THAT BUILDING.

SO THERE IS A 25 FOOT SETBACK.

UH, WELL WHAT I'M NOT SURE THE DISTANCE FROM THAT RIGHT OF WAY.

AND THEN YOU HAVE SIDE SETBACKS, JUST LIKE ON YOUR PROPERTY FROM A STREET OR A SIDE TO THE NEXT NEIGHBOR.

SO IF THIS IS THE FRONT, THEN WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS A REAR PROPERTY LINE THAT FOR THE O2 DISTRICT IT IS ESTABLISHED AS BEING 25 FEET, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANY STRUCTURAL BUILDING MATERIAL OR ANYTHING IN THERE.

THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED TO US THAT WHILE THE BUILDING ITSELF WILL BE WITHIN THE CORRECT LIMITS OF THE PROPERTY, FOR THEM TO PUT THE, THE POOL ITSELF, WHICH IS STRUCTURALLY BUILDING, IF THEY'RE GONNA HAVE AN AWNING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR THEIR GUESTS TO SIT UNDER, WHETHER THEY HAVE A A, A LITTLE REFRESHMENT AREA, IF THEY'RE GONNA BUILD OVER THAT LINE, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THIS IS A PD AND REMEMBER OUR REGULATIONS IDENTIFIED FOR PD DEVIATIONS CAN BE REQUESTED.

IF THIS WASN'T A PD AND THEY WANTED THAT DEVIATION, THEY WOULD'VE TO UH, GO REQUEST THE BARRIERS OF SPECIAL ION FOR THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

BUT OUR REGULATIONS ALLOWS IT BECAUSE IT'S A PD AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE REQUESTING TWO DEVIATIONS.

ONE DEALING WITH THE NUMBER OF PARKING, WHICH IS NOT A COMPLIANCE.

OUR NUMBERS WERE SAYING 158, THEY'RE CHANGING AND SAY THEY CAN PROVIDE 140, WHICH IS STILL UNDER, UH, I WILL SAY YOU REFERENCED THAT HOTEL SOUTH OF IT.

I DID READ THAT.

UM, THAT'S IN THE SAME PD ORDINANCE THAT I INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE.

IT DID IDENTIFY THAT THE CITY GRANTED THAT DEVIATION FOR THAT HOTEL TO HAVE A LOWER NUMBER.

DEVELOPERS ARE AUTHORIZED TO MAKE THESE REQUESTS AND THAT'S WHEN YOU WILL CONSIDER IT.

YOU CAN MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND FINALLY TO BE UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT YOUR RECOMMENDATION OR, UH, GO CONTRARY TO THAT OR TOTALLY 360.

MR. CHILL.

I, ONE MORE QUESTION.

UH, I SEE THE POOL STRUCTURE THERE, BUT THEN THERE'S A ANOTHER BOX TO THE RIGHT.

IS THAT A STRUCTURE OR IS

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THAT, LET'S ASK THE APPLICANT WHEN HE COMES UP.

OKAY.

TO GIVE MORE DETAILS, WE'LL LEAVE THE SITE PLAN UP, UH, DURING HIS PRESENTATION.

WELL, HE HAS A PRESENTATION HIMSELF.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU MR. BREWER.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THE TIME IS NOW SEVEN, UH, 40 PM WE WILL TAKE THE TIME NOW TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, ON CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1 5 0 5 DASH 23.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

UH, I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS IN ATTENDANCE IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, YOU MAY DO SO.

YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO SO, BUT YOU CAN DO SO AT THIS TIME.

AND IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF ADDRESS PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER.

GOOD EVENING.

CITY STAFF.

MY NAME IS PARTNER AT.

I BROUGHT A PRESENTATION TO SHOW YOU GUYS OUR DEVIATIONS.

WE'RE ASKING AND KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS A BACKGROUND AND MORE INFORMATION, UH, TO KIND OF ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS.

SO FOR THE PARKING REQUIREMENT DEVIATIONS AS THE CODE READS, WE'RE READING 1.1 PER GUEST ROOM FOR KITCHENETTE ROOMS, WHICH IN 124 ROOMS TRANSLATE TO 137 SPOTS.

OUR HOTEL AS DEFINITION IS KIT, YOU KNOW, EXTENDED STAY KITCHENETTE, BUT IT'S MORE MIDTERM, NOT REALLY KITCHENETTE 'CAUSE THERE'S NO COOKING FACILITIES IN THE ROOM IS JUST A REFRIGERATOR, DISHWASHER, AND A SINK.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE WILL BE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE GUEST ROOM COUNTS, WHICH WILL BE 137.

SO WE HAVE THREE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS LEFT FROM THE REQUIREMENT.

UH, FOR THE MEETING SPACE.

FOR ONE SPACE FOR 125 SQUARE FEET, WE NEED ROUGHLY NINE PARKING SPACES WHERE WE'LL BE ABOUT TO BE, BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THREE OF THE NINE.

AND THEN THE CODE THAT READS ONE SPACE PER FIVE RESTAURANT LOUNGES SEATING, WHICH REQUIRE US TO HAVE 12 SEAT 12 PARKING SPACES.

THIS IS WHERE WE BELIEVE THAT READING THE CODE, IN OUR OPINION, THIS IS NOT APPLICABLE TO OUR PROJECT BECAUSE THE SEAT, THE 60 SEATINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THE HOTEL LOBBY ARE ONLY FOR GUESTS USE AND THEY'RE RESTRICTED TO GUESTS ONLY.

SO THERE'S BASICALLY, WE'RE DOUBLE COUNTING PARKING FOR THE SAME SEATING.

SO IF GUEST PARKS, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE USING THIS 60 SEATS.

SO THIS IS WHERE THE DEVIATION REQUEST IS COMING IN.

WE BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE 12 SPOTS THAT WE'RE SHORT OF, UH, BE DISREGARDED.

UM, AS WELL, I HEARD THE COMMENT ABOUT THE ADJACENT HOTEL HAVING, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT ENOUGH PARKING DURING BUSY NIGHTS.

IT'S TRUE, WE'VE LOOKED INTO IT AS WELL.

THAT HOTEL, IF YOU READ THIS CODE IN PARKING SPACES, THEY'RE NOT AT ONE-TO-ONE AS IT'S REQUIRED BY CODE FOR THEIR PROPERTY.

THEY'RE AT LIKE A HUNDRED ROOMS AND THEY ONLY HAVE ABOUT 110 SPOTS.

SO THEY'RE SHORT OF FEW SPOTS BASED ON THEIR REQUIREMENT.

UM, THAT'S FOR THE PARKING.

UH, WE HAVE A SOLUTION FOR IT TO COME TO 158 PARKING SPOTS, WHICH I'LL SHARE WITH YOU GUYS NEXT.

UH, THE WAY WE'VE IDENTIFIED, LET'S SEE IF I CAN USE IT OR, UH, SO WE'RE COMING TO A HUNDRED.

ORIGINALLY WE HAD 128, NOW WE HAVE 140.

THE WAY WE CAME UP TO 140 IS WE'RE ADDING SIX SPOTS HERE, TWO SPOTS HERE, THREE OVER HERE, AND ONE OVER HERE.

THAT GIVES US 140 PARKING SPOTS.

WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD THREE MORE PARKING SPACES HERE, WHERE THE POOL IS TO MAKE THIS PARKING ROW A CONTINUOUS PARKING ROW.

SO TECHNICALLY WE WOULD HAVE 143 PARKING SPOTS AND WE'RE 15 SHORT TO ACCOMMODATE THE 15 SHORT DURING OUR PEAK HOURS WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO THEORETICALLY SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S 60 SEATING YOU NEED TO 12 SPACES DURING PEAK HOURS, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SEEK FOR A PARKING, SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, OPERATES DURING THE DAY ONLY FOR THE EVENING HOURS TO BE ABLE TO USE THESE 15 SPACES DURING PEAK HOURS.

ON AVERAGE HOTEL OCCUPANCY IS 75%, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 103 SPOTS.

SO IN GENERAL, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A EXCESS OF 30 SPOTS ON ANY GIVEN DAY.

UM, THE NEXT DEVIATION PLACES A DIME, WHICH WAS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

THE CODE READS PLACES THE DINE NOT CLEARLY DEFINED, SO IT'S UP TO INTERPRETATION.

BUT WE WILL PROVIDE A BREAKFAST FACILITY AS WELL AS A GRAB AND GO FACILITY ON SITE.

SO NOT A TRUE FULL KITCHEN, A RESTAURANT WITH A KITCHEN, BUT SOMETHING TO ACCOMMODATE THE GUESTS.

UM, FOR THE BUILDING SETBACK, UH, I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO REDUCE THE ROOM COUNT TO ACCOMMODATE THE DEVIATIONS.

EVEN WITH THE REDUCTION OF THE BUILDING, WE ARE UNABLE

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TO ACCOMMODATE THE BUILDING SETBACK, BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE BUILDING IS LAID OUT, WE CAN ONLY SHRINK IT PERPEND, UH, PARALLEL TO THE POOL, BUT WE CAN'T SHRINK IT PERPENDICULAR TO THE POOL TO BRING THE POOL INTO THE BUILDING AREA.

AND, UM, THE, THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAVE A 20 FEET BUILDING, UH, BUILDING SETBACK VERSUS 25 IN PLACE.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A 15 FEET VARIANCE ON THAT PART.

UM, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION REGARDING FIRE LANE, THE FIRE LANE, THE ENTRANCE TO THE HOTEL IS RIGHT HERE FROM WALKER WAY THAT GO WRAPS AROUND TO THE FRONT TOWARD YES, 67 AND EXIT OUT ON BARRYMORE LANE.

SO THE FIRE LANE WRAPS AROUND THE HOTEL ON TWO SIDES ON THE INTERIOR PROPERTY.

AND THEN THERE'S A MUTUAL ACCESS CALLED THE TRAVIS STREET, WHICH IS A PRIVATE DRIVE THAT'S A FIRE LANE.

AND THAT IS NOT ENCROACHING, THE PARKINGS ARE NOT ENCROACHING INTO THE FIRE LANE.

THAT IS A LEGAL FIRE LANE EXISTS CURRENTLY, UH, THESE PARKING SPOTS ARE CURRENTLY PRESENT FOR THE ADJACENT HOTEL, THEREFORE THIS FIRE LANE IS APPROVED FIRE LANE BY THE FIRE MARSHAL.

UM, SO JUST TO RUN A LITTLE BIT OF ECONOMICS, FROM A PERS ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE, UH, REDUCING KEYS WOULD HAVE TO REDUCE IT BY 24 KEYS.

AND FROM AN ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A $1 MILLION ANNUAL, UH, PROPERTY TAX VALUE AND SALES TAX REVENUE OF UPWARDS OF SEVEN 50,000.

SO WITH CURRENT RATES COLLECTED, WE'RE LOOKING AT A $60,000 REVENUE LOSS TO THE CITY AND TAXABLE REVENUES.

UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AS WELL FOR ONE PARKING SPACE EMITS 176,560 GRAMS OF CO2, WHICH CONTRIBUTES TO THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT, WHICH RAISES ITS TEMPERATURE BY FOUR TO FIVE DEGREES.

SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY CAUTIOUS WHEN HAVING EXCESS PARKING THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED WHEN DOING THESE HOTELS.

'CAUSE UH, YOU KNOW, WE OPERATE ABOUT 25 HOTELS AND EVERY YEAR WE'RE REFINING HOW DO WE GET, HOW DO WE REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT AS HOTELS AND HOW DO WE BECOME MORE GREEN AND GREEN? AND PARKING IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, UH, ITEMS THAT WE LOOK AT FROM GREEN GREENHOUSES, UM, GASES, AS WELL AS WHAT WE USE IN THE HOTELS AS WELL.

AND NOW THE PARKING ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN IN 1997, ABOUT 26 YEARS AGO.

SINCE THEN, WE HAVE LYFT, UBER RIDE SHARING APPS AND WE DO SEE CONSUMERS USING THOSE APPS.

I MEAN, THOSE METHODS MORE OFTEN IN TRADITIONAL TRAVEL.

WE OWN A HOTEL NEARBY IN THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, THE HAMPTON INN AND SUITES, WHERE WE, OUR PARKING SPACES ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING.

AND WE SEE 30% OF OUR BUSINESS IS USING UBER OR LYFT COMING FROM DOWNTOWN OR, YOU KNOW, THE COWBOY STADIUM OR THE AIRPORT.

SO, UH, FROM A OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, OUR PARKING IS SUFFICIENT AND OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE, UH, YES SIR.

I'D LIKE TO LOOK.

YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S PARKING THAT EXISTS CURRENTLY ON THE TRAVIS PRIVATE DRIVE.

IS THAT PARKING THAT'S BEEN COUNTED AS A, TOWARDS THE EXISTING HOTEL, OR THAT'S IS, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT PARKING, THE EXISTING PARKING IS BEING DOUBLE COUNTED.

NO, SO THE, SO THE EXISTING PARKING IS ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.

THESE PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE HERE, I BELIEVE IT'S ROUGHLY 20 SPOTS.

THOSE ARE NOT BEING COUNTED ONTO OUR PROJECT.

THEY ARE PART OF THE ADJACENT PROJECT.

OUR PARKING IS ALL WITHIN OUR PROPERTY THAT WE'RE COUNTING.

SO THE, THE, THIS ROW RIGHT HERE IS PART OF OUR PROPERTY.

THIS IS WHERE WE'LL BE ADDING THE NEW PARKING SPACE, BASICALLY CONTINUING THE PARKING ROW ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

UH, LET, I CAN SHARE YOU RIGHT THERE.

SO WE WOULD BE ADDING NEW PARKING SPACES FROM HERE ALL THE WAY ON.

THIS IS NOT PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM, , YOU'RE WELCOME.

SURE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. REVENUE? YES.

UM, AGAIN, COULD YOU TELL ME, YOU SAID YOU HAVE A REFRIGERATOR, A SINK, AND WHAT ELSE? A DISHWASHER.

DISHWASHER, CORRECT.

AS WELL AS A MICROWAVE, I'M ASSUMING? YES SIR.

OKAY.

UM, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THE EXTRA PARKING SPACES FROM? UH, ARE YOU TAKING AWAY GREEN SPACE OR SOMETHING? OH, WHEN YOU SAY WHEN I GO FROM 1 28 TO ONE 40? YES, I CAN SHOW YOU THAT.

SO ORIGINALLY WHEN WE WERE, WHEN THE ENGINEERS WERE WORKING ON THE FIRE LANE, UM, WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE PARKING COUNTS, THIS, THE, THIS BASE WAS MISSED RIGHT HERE IN THE CALCULATION.

AND THEN THERE

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WAS A BIG ISLAND ON HERE IN YOUR PACKAGE THAT YOU'LL SEE A BIG ISLAND RIGHT HERE WHERE THEY WERE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THREE SPOTS.

AND IN THIS AREA WE HAD A 30 FOOT FIRE LANE RADIUS, WHICH WE DO NOT NEED BECAUSE WE HAVE FIRE LANE ON THREE SIDES WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO ADD TO FIVE SPOTS.

AND THEN IN THIS AREA WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PARKING SPACES IN FRONT OF THE HOTEL ENTRANCE, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE SIX PARKING SPOTS RIGHT THERE.

OKAY.

SO HOW MANY TOTAL DO YOU HAVE? 143 ON SITE.

1 43.

SO WE'RE STILL 15 SHOT? CORRECT.

HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WILL YOU HAVE WORKING SHIFTS? SO DURING THE EVENING HOURS AFTER 3:00 PM YOU WOULD ONLY HAVE GENERALLY TWO EMPLOYEE PARKING.

YOU ONLY HAVE THE TWO FRONT DESK AGENTS ON SITE.

DURING THE MORNING HOURS YOU WOULD NEED ROUGHLY 10 PARKING SPACES.

BUT DURING THE HOURS OF 9:00 AM TO 3:00 PM THE PARKING IS 90% EMPTY BECAUSE GUEST CHECK-INS AT 3:00 PM OKAY.

AND ARE THERE OTHER BRANDS THAT YOU COULD HAVE CONSIDERED? THEY'RE ALL THE OTHER BRANDS THAT WE COULD HAVE CONSIDERED ALREADY EXIST IN EITHER IN THE CITY OF DESOTO, DALLAS, OR DUNCANVILLE AND WITHIN A FIVE MILE RADIUS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, MR. CHAIR, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS PLEASE.

UM, ON THE AMENITIES MM-HMM, , THE BREAKFAST BAR.

BREAKFAST AREA, IS THAT COMPLIMENTARY FOOD STUFF OR IS IT JUST A SET UP? NO, IT'S COMPLIMENTARY FOOD AND IT'S, IT'S A HOT BREAKFAST.

IT'S NOT A CONTINENTAL IT, SO SOME OF THE COMPONENTS ARE MADE TO ORDER.

OKAY.

DINING AREA, SAME THING.

SEE? YES.

SO IT'S JUST A LOBBY AREA IN THE LO WITHIN THE LOBBY IT'S ALL INTEGRATED AS ONE SPACE.

THE LOBBY, THE DINING AREA.

THE BREAKFAST.

OKAY.

SO TO BASICALLY JUST BRING IN, BRING YOUR FOOD IN AND DINE IN.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WHAT ABOUT THE LAUNDRY FACILITIES? OR IS THIS COMPLIMENTARY OR IS THIS PER CHARGE? UH, SO IT DEPENDS ON YOUR STAY.

SO THERE'S A PROGRAM BY HILTON, SO IF YOU'RE STAYING X NUMBER OF NIGHTS AND IT'S COMPLIMENTARY TO YOU, IF YOU'RE STAYING ONE OR TWO DAYS, THEN IT'S OUTTA CHARGE.

OKAY.

SEE WHAT ELSE THAT I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

UH, YOU'RE WELCOME MR. RAVEN.

YES.

WHEN YOU WERE TALKING YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT A LOT OF YOUR GUESTS YOU LEFT.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

DO YOU NOT OFTEN HAVE GUESTS THAT HAVE PEOPLE TO COME SEE THEM WHILE THEY'RE STAYING THERE AS WELL? VERY SELDOM.

OKAY.

IT'S USUALLY, 'CAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, HOUSE HOURS THAT STARTS AT 9:00 PM SO NO OUTSIDE TRAFFIC.

JUST GUESS ONLY DESCRIBE WHO YOUR CUSTOMER IS.

UH, SO IN THIS DEMOGRAPHIC, GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION, OUR CUSTOMERS, IT'S A WIDE RANGE OF 'EM.

WE HAVE TRAVEL BUSINESS TRAVELERS, WE HAVE PEOPLE TRAVELING RECREATIONALLY, WE HAVE LEISURE TRAVELERS, BUT HEAVILY WHAT WE'RE SEEING FOR OUR BASE IS CORPORATE TRAVELERS AND SPORTING.

THAT'S VERY, THOSE ARE THE TWO BIGGEST GROUPS WE CAN PUT OUR GUESTS INTO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, PLEASE.

MS. CAESAR, ONE OTHER QUESTION.

AND THIS IS ABOUT THE AMENITIES AGAIN, THE, UM, MEETING ROOM, UH, 1,100 SQUARE FEET.

UM, WHAT'S YOUR VISION OR DO YOU SEE A VISION FOR USAGE OF THAT AND TWO PARTS AND IS IT DIVIDABLE? CAN IT BE DIVIDED IN HALF IF I ONLY NEEDED A SMALL PORTION OF IT? YEAH, SO WE CAN DIVIDE IT INTO TWO SPACE, TWO SET SPACES OF ROUGHLY 550 SQUARE FEET.

SO IT CAN BE TWO, ESSENTIALLY TWO BOARDROOMS. UH, THE VISION OF THE MEETING SPACE IS NOT, UH, TRULY FOR IT TO BE SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE A BIG GATHERING.

THE MEETING SPACE IS BASICALLY FOR GUEST USE WHERE THEY WANT TO GET TOGETHER, HAVE A AREA PRIVATE TO THEMSELF, HAVE A MEETING.

UH, GENERALLY WHAT WE SEE WITH THESE SIZE MEETING SPACES, BASICALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN A BEST FOOTBALL TEAM IS TRAVELING AND THE COACH WANNA HAVE A LITTLE HUDDLE OR, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS TRAVELERS THAT ARE WANTING TO HAVE A LITTLE MEET OR HAVING AN ONSITE MEETING, LIKE INSTEAD OF MEETING AT A STARBUCKS, THEY WANT TO MEET AT THE HOTEL.

SO THIS IS THE ENVISION FOR THE MEETING SPACE, NOT TO HAVE A BIG EVENT GATHERING WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THE WAY I COULD SAY IS LIKE THE EVENT CENTER THAT'S ON 35.

YOU ALRIGHT COMMISSIONERS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND ACTUALLY IT IS PERTAINING TO THE MEETING ROOM.

UH, WHAT'S THE MAC, UH, MAXIMUM CAPACITY OR OCCUPANCY OF THAT MEETING

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ROOM ON 1100 SQUARE FEET? SO ROUGHLY 55, 60 PEOPLE.

55 TO 60 PEOPLE? MM-HMM, .

UM, DO YOU ENVISION IF THERE WAS AN OUTSIDE COMPANY WHO WANTED TO COME AND RESERVE AND USE THAT MEETING ROOM, DO YOU ANTICIPATE RENTING OR LEASING THE ROOM TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT STAYING ON THE PROPERTY? OR IS IT EXCLUSIVELY FOR THOSE WHO ARE STAYING ON THE PROPERTY? NO, IT'S OPEN TO PUBLIC FOR AS FAR AS THE MEETING SPACE GOES.

UM, BUT WE GENERALLY SEE HOTEL GUESTS.

THERE'S USUALLY A GUEST AT THE HOTEL THAT IS RENTING IT AT, YOU KNOW, CREATING THE GATHERING.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE DURING THE COURSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING WHO'D LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? AGAIN ASKING ONE LAST TIME, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE, UH, WHO IS PRESENT WHO'D LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA? ITEM HEARING IS SEEING NONE.

WE WILL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:56 PM UH, COMMISSIONERS.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, SIR.

MR. AVNER? YES.

MR. BREWER, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT, UM, COUNSEL HAD APPROVED FOR THE OTHER HOTEL DEVIATIONS? YES, SIR.

IN YOUR PACKAGE, UH, WHERE THE ORDINANCE EXISTS, IF YOU GO TO PAGE THREE OF SIX LETTER M PARKING, THE NUMBER OF REQUIRED PARKING SPACES FOR LOT THREE A SHALL BE REDUCED TO 112 BASED ON THE SITE PLAN FOR THE HOTEL.

OKAY.

DO YOU KNOW IF THAT WAS AN APPROVAL BY PLANNING AND ZONING AS WELL AS COUNCIL OR WAS THAT, UH, SOMETHING THAT WENT TO COUNSEL AND GOT APPROVED? I I DID NOT GO LOOK AT THE VIRTUAL MEETINGS, UH, FOR THAT ONE.

SO I CANNOT SAY AND IT OCCURRED PRIOR TO MY BEING HIRED.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

MM-HMM, .

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, HEARING AND SEEING NONE.

IS THERE A MOTION MR. CHAIR? UH, YES.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE, UM, THAT WE APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION OF, UH, ZONING CASE NUMBER 1505 DASH 23, UM, FOR THIS PROPERTY WITH THE DEVIATIONS AS PRESENTED.

ALRIGHT, THE MOTION'S BEEN MADE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. CHAIRMAN, IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND PROPERTY SECOND.

UH, ANY UNREADINESS HEARING IS SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY NAY.

NAY.

ALRIGHT, THE MOTION PASSES FOUR TO ONE.

NOW IS THERE ANYBODY IN ATTENDANCE BEFORE WE MOVE ON, UH, TO OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING? ANYBODY IN ATTENDANCE ON ANY OF OUR PLATS YOU WANT ENTER ATTENDANCE ON? NO PLA OKAY.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE HEARING IS SEEING NONE.

WE'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING.

THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH GREEN SPACE REGULATIONS FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY OF DESOTO.

AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER TA DASH ZERO FOUR DASH 23.

UH, CHAIRMAN MC, MAY I ASK THAT WE DO GO TO MY PLAID BEST TO HAVE TO STEP OUT FOR A MOMENT? OKAY, WE'LL SET THAT ASIDE FOR A SECOND AND WE'LL COME BACK TO IT.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'LL GO TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RELAID OF EAGLE PARK SOUTH EDITION, COMBINING TWO SEPARATE PLATT LOTS INTO ONE PLAID LOT.

I THINK SHE'S THAT JUST EAGLE PARK.

HMM.

I THINK ONE.

NO.

YOU WANT, WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT? THE SECOND ONE? THE THIRD ONE.

THE THIRD ONE.

OKAY.

NO, NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.

SO WE'RE

[3. Consider approval of revised PP-343-22 (Preliminary Plat) Homestead at Daniel Farms Phase 3 located south of W. Danieldale Road and west of N. Westmoreland Road (920 W. Danieldale Road and 2051 N. Westmoreland Road).]

GONNA, UH, CONSIDER ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF REVISED PP DASH 3 4 3 DASH 22 PRELIMINARY PLAT HOMESTEAD AT DANIEL FARMS PHASE THREE, UH, LOCATED SOUTH OF WEST DANIELDALE ROAD AND WEST OF NORTH, UH, WEST MOLAND ROAD, UH, 9 2 0 WEST DANIELDALE ROAD AND 2 0 5 1 NORTHWEST MOLEN ROAD.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? YES.

UH, COMMISSIONER, I DIDN'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO FINISH THE REPORT BECAUSE AT THE VERY END I WAS GONNA TELL YOU THE APPLICANT REQUESTED THE THIS BE TABLED TO YOUR NEXT MEETING.

OH.

OH.

BUT I, IT STILL ALLOW ME TO KIND OF GIVE YOU ABSOLUTELY SOME OVERVIEW OF IT.

UM, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHERE WE ENDED UP KIND OF BUMPING HEADS AGAIN.

THE CITY IN 2020 APPROVED UH, A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT FOR WILDWOOD.

AND THIS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WAS PROPOSING TO ESTABLISH A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY CONSISTING OF, UH, FOUR PHASES WITH PHASE ONE, UH, BEING ALREADY

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FULLY CONSTRUCTED WITH HOMES OF 2,500 SQUARE FEET.

PHASE TWO, THE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN TOTALLY CONSTRUCTED AND THE DEVELOPER HAS CONTRACTED WITH BLOOMFIELD AND THERE ARE BUILDING HOMES THERE.

UH, TONIGHT'S CASE IS IN REFERENCE TO THIS LOWER SECTION HERE.

I'LL SHOW YOU ON ANOTHER, UH, SLIDE TO WHERE THESE ARE ACTUALLY TWO SEPARATE TRACKS OF LAND BUT COMBINE 'EM TOGETHER, THEY ARE CONSIDERED PHASE THREE AND PHASE FOUR IS BORDERS WESTMORELAND AND THEY TERM THIS AS HOMESTEAD EAST.

AND THE BOTTOM PORTION WHERE MY HIGHLIGHTER IS, IS ONE OF EAST AND THE UPPER PART IS TWO.

UH, THIS IS JUST A, A BETTER VISUAL CONCEPT PLAN OF THREE TO HELP LET YOU SEE.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CLEARLY TWO DIFFERENT SIDES.

THERE IS A DRAINAGE CHANNEL THAT COMES THROUGH HERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S DICTATING A LOT OF THE SEPARATION.

AND FROM THIS CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS IN FEBRUARY, 2022, YOU SEE THAT, UH, ALL OF THESE LOTS ALSO ARE GONNA BE THE SAME SIZE AS WHAT'S IN BASIS ONE AND TWO SF 10, 10,000 SQUARE FEET LOT.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECTION ON THE RIGHT, THERE WAS POSING ONE SINGLE ENTRANCE COMING OUT OF PHASE TWO.

AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE THREE CUL-DE-SACS.

SO IT'S GONNA BE ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.

THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT, UH, THAT THEY FORMALLY BROUGHT TO US.

UH, AFTER IT GETS YOU ZONING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR PRELIMINARY PLAT IN ORDER TO START YOUR PROCESS.

SO UTILIZING THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THEY PRODUCED THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT, AGAIN, TWO SEPARATE TRACKS OF LAND.

IT'S DIVIDED BY THE DRAINAGE TOWN.

YOU SEE THESE CONTOURS HERE AND YOU HAVE THE LARGER ONE HERE AT THIS TIME, AGAIN, ALL LOTS WERE 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

THE APPLICANT THEN IN MAY OF THIS YEAR MADE A REQUEST THAT THEY WANTED TO DO A ZONING CHANGE ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF PHASE THREE, AT WHICH TIME THEY WANTED TO CREATE LOTS THAT WERE NOT 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO THEY CAME THROUGH THE CITY AND REQUESTED A PD IN ORDER TO HAVE A BASE ZONING AS SF EIGHT.

THAT STRATEGY IS BECAUSE SF EIGHT IS THE SMALLEST ZONING DISTRICT THAT THE CITY HAS.

THE CITY HAS NO SF SEVEN OR SIX OR FIVE, ET CETERA.

SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BASE ZONING.

SO THEY CAME IN WITH SF EIGHT, BUT AGAIN, THE CITY OF DESOTO ZONING ORDINANCE, BECAUSE THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OVER ONE ACRE IN SIZE, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO DEVIATIONS.

SO IN ADDITION TO REQUESTING A CHANGE OF BASE ZONING FROM SF 10 TO SF EIGHT, AS YOU CAN SEE IN, IN THE PRINT HERE, THEY MADE OTHER DEVIATIONS REQUESTS INCLUDING REDUCING A LOT FROM THE BASE OF SF.

EIGHT OF 8,000, 6,000 SQUARE FEET ALSO CHANGED A LOT SIZES FOR, UH, WIDTH OF 60, UH, DEATH WAS GONNA BE I THINK AROUND 110 MINIMUM SETBACKS.

SO ALL OF THIS WAS CHANGING AND THEY ALSO ASKED THE REQUEST, THIS REQUEST, WELL LEMME SAY THIS WHOLE SECTION IS WHAT WAS APPROVED FOR EAST ONE AND TWO.

ONE, TWO AND THREE WERE ALL APPROVED FOR SF 10 EAST WAS APPROVED WITH A BASE ZONING OF SF EIGHT WITH DEVIATION REQUESTS DOWN TO 6,000.

SO BECAUSE THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED, IS MY UNDERSTANDING THE REASON THEY CAME BACK TO REQUEST COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER THE WEST SIDE.

SO THAT WAS THEIR STRATEGY THERE.

THIS IS THE ILLUSTRATION.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO, UH, DECREASE THE LOT SIZES FROM A 10,000 SQUARE FEET TO 6,000 SQUARE FEET.

IT RESULTED IN INCREASE DENT, OH, I'M SORRY.

IT RESULTED IN AN INCREASED DENSITY IN THIS WEST SIDE FROM 29 HOMES TO INITIALLY 35.

THAT'S WHAT THE REQUEST INITIALLY CAME.

AND AT THAT TIME, THE LOTS WERE GOING TO STILL BE, UM, I THINK 60 BY ONE 15.

THEN AFTER THAT SUBMITTAL IN MAY, THEN THE APPLICANT CAME BACK TO THE CITY IN JUNE OF THAT SAME YEAR TO SAY WE WANT TO CHANGE STILL THAT SIZE LOT TO A 60 BY ONE 10 AND THUS INCREASE OUR NUMBERS TRULY TO BE FROM 35 NEW BUILDABLE LOTS FROM ORIGINALLY 29 TO 36.

AND ALSO, INSTEAD OF HAVING THOSE THREE CUL-DE-SACS, WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE, THE SOUTHERNMOST CUL-DE-SACS TO A STUB OUT ROAD FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT GOING TO THE WEST.

SO THIS IS THAT CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN.

AND AS YOU SEE, WHAT IT DOES CREATE IS THAT STUB OUT INSTEAD OF A CUL-DE-SAC HERE, IT HAS INCREASED THE DENSITY OF THE NUMBER OF LOTS.

THESE LOTS, UH, ARE FORECAST NOW TO BE WHY THE BASE ZONING IS SF EIGHT, THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS GONNA BE

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6,000.

SO THAT IS WHAT THE ZONING WAS APPROVED.

SO THAT IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

NOW, TODAY THEY'RE NOW COMING BACK BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVED, RECOMMENDED BY APPROVAL BY YOUR COMMISSION APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.

SO IT'S A FORMAL DOCUMENT.

THE NEXT PHASE WOULD'VE NORMALLY BEEN FOR THEM TO SUBMIT CIVIL PLANS TO US TO START THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT BEFORE THEY GOT TO THAT POINT, THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THAT, UM, THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO A, AN AMENDMENT.

AND A PART OF THAT AMENDMENT IS WHAT WE, WE ARE SHOWING HERE.

I'M GONNA CALL IT A REVISED.

PLEASE ALLOW ME TO CORRECT IT AGAIN, WHAT WAS APPROVED WERE ON THE WEST SIDE.

THREE CUL-DE-SACS, WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE ZONING CREATED INCREASED DENSITY AND CREATED A STUB OUT BY THE ZONING.

SO NOW THEY'RE COMING BACK DOING THE FORMALITY WITH THE SUBDIVISION REGULATION, WHICH IS CALLED PLATTING.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS, UH, DRAWING ILLUSTRATES HERE.

BUT IN OUR REVIEW OF IT, WE, WE CAUGHT A FEW THINGS FROM THEM, UH, UP HERE IN THE NOTES.

WE ACTUALLY CAUGHT THEM WITH THIS BEFORE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS, UH, AN ERROR ON OR AN OVERSIGHT, BUT THAT SECTION JUST IDENTIFIES THAT IT WAS PLACING OWNERSHIP OF ALL OF THESE COMMON LOTS.

AND THERE IS A LARGE VOLUME OF LOTS, WHAT I HAVE IN YELLOW.

THESE ARE THE COMMON LOTS HERE.

AND YOU CAN SEE REALLY THEY'RE UNUSABLE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE AREA IN A LOT OF THEM.

BUT THEY WAS, UH, PROPOSING TO ALLOW THAT TO BE CITY.

THEY UNDERSTAND THEY HAD TO REMOVE THAT IN MY COUNTING OF WHAT I KNEW THE ZONING HAD APPROVED, THE ZONING HAD APPROVED 36 LOTS AND THEY ARE HAVING 37 HERE.

I MEAN 36, THEY'RE SHOWING 37.

SO I SAID I HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE, WHAT YOU BROUGHT TO US BEFORE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I FLAGGED THAT THIS ORANGE LOT SEEMS TO BE A NEW LOT THAT HAS APPEARED THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED.

AND THEN SOME, JUST SOME OTHER SMALL TECHNICALITY, THEY SHOULD CALL IT A WORKING PLAT.

IT NEEDS TO BE A PRELIMINARY PLAT, UH, CHANGE THE NUMBER.

SO, UM, SAME THING ON PAGE TWO TO CORRECT THE, THE NUMBERING ELEMENT OF IT.

UH, AGAIN, THIS I'VE I'VE TOLD YOU WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED, THE ZONING, ALL OF THIS IS PD.

PD, UM, THE SAME PD CONTINUOUSLY.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME TO YOU IN YOUR PACKAGE WAS REQUESTING YOU TO PROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAN WITH THE CONDITION TO MAKE THOSE CORRECTIONS.

UH, BUT AGAIN, THEY'VE RETHOUGHT IT AGAIN AND I THINK THEY HAVE ANOTHER STRATEGY.

AND SO THE REQUEST THAT CAME TODAY WAS TO REQUEST THE UM, COMMISSIONER SUPPORT TO TABLE ACTION ON THIS TO YOUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH WILL BE OCTOBER THE 24TH.

24TH.

OKAY.

SO, SORRY I DIDN'T GET TO THAT POINT EARLIER.

OH, THAT'S OKAY, MR. WE, WE APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT, SO, AND I'LL ADDRESS ANY QUESTION OR QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

UH, COMMISSIONERS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? BURNING QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CAESAR? YES, UH, MR. CHAIR? MR. BRULE, BACK TO THE SLIDE WHERE YOU SHOWED THAT ONE.

GO BACK THAT ONE, THOSE YELLOW LOTS OR WHAT, WHAT DID YOU SAY THAT LITTLE FINE WRITING IS THAT YOU HAVE CIRCLED AT THE TOP THERE? THEY WERE TRYING TO YES, THE LANGUAGE AT THE TOP AND I'VE INCLUDED IT IN YOUR, UM, STAFF REPORT.

IT'S IN YOUR REPORT.

IT, IT'S, IT'S LANGUAGE IS IDENTIFYING THAT THESE COMMON AREAS WILL BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE CITY OF DESOTOS PARK DEPARTMENT.

NOW UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE SET UP BETWEEN THE CITY BECAUSE THE CITY DESIRES TO EXPAND ITS PARK AND TRAIL SYSTEM.

BUT WHEN THAT HAS NOT BEEN DEFINED, IT HAS NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED.

UM, BECAUSE THE CITY MAY BE LOOKING AT JUST THE AREA THAT'S GONNA BORDER WHERE A WALKING TRAIL COULD BE, NOT NECESSARILY THE WHOLE DRAINAGE AREA, BUT IT COULD BECAUSE IT MAY WANT THAT AESTHETIC APPEARANCE OF NATURE, BUT BY THE LINE THAT HAS NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED AND WE DON'T WANT A CONFUSION TO COME THAT THEY SAY IT'S A PART OF YOUR PRELIMINARY PLA YOU APPROVED IT AT THAT POINT.

SO JUST LIKE WE CAUGHT IT THE FIRST TIME, IT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED.

UM, SHOULD THEY PROCEED TO GO ON? ALRIGHT.

COMMISSIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.

UH, THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT, UH, TO TABLE, UH, PP DASH 3 43 DASH 22 UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING OF OCTOBER 24TH, 2023.

IS THERE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? IF SO, BRING IT FORWARD NOW, MR. CHAIR? UH, YES, MR. CHAIR.

I, UH, MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE

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REGULAR AGENDA ITEM, UH, NUMBER THREE TO OUR NEXT MEETING OF OCTOBER THE 24TH.

OKAY, AND I, UH, REFERENCING, UH, PP 3 43 DASH 22 AND MR. KELLY, I THINK THE LANGUAGE THAT MR. BREWER'S LOOKING FOR, THAT WE TABLE.

OH, THAT WE TABLE IT.

MY, MY APOLOGIES.

I, LET ME REPHRASE.

YES.

UM, MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE TABLE, UM, THE REVISED, UH, PP 3 4 3 DASH 22 PRELIMINARY PLAT DISCUSSION TO OUR NEXT MEETING, UH, SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER THE 24TH.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. CHAIR.

OKAY, WE MOVE PROPERTY SECOND.

IS THERE ANY UNREADINESS? HEARING IS SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND DO THE SAME.

A MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, IT IS NOT LOST ON ME FOR BOTH COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF THAT WE JUMP RIGHT FROM THE WORK SESSION STRAIGHT INTO THE REGULAR SESSION.

UH, IS THERE ANYBODY, EITHER COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF WHO COULD UTILIZE A BREAK BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

SO WE WILL STAND IN RECESS.

UH, THE TIME IS EIGHT 11.

WE WILL STAND IN RECESS TO 8 21 FOR 10 MINUTES.

WE'LL RECONVENE AT 8 21.

THANK YOU.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE TIME IS NOW 8 21.

WE WILL NOW RESUME, UH, THE MEETING THE OCTOBER 10TH, 2023 MEETING OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION OF DESOTO.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, UH, PRESENT, AND THE

[4. Conduct a Public Hearing to consider amending the Zoning Ordinance in order to establish Green Space regulations for commercial and residential developments in the City of DeSoto. (Case #TA-004-23)]

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH GREEN SPACE REGULATIONS FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF DESOTO.

THIS IS CASE NUMBER TA DASH 0 0 4 DASH 23.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT, PLEASE? YES.

UH, TONIGHT, AS I SAID, AGAIN, WE ARE GONNA START THE, UM, PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO START ESTABLISH GREEN SPACE REGULATIONS FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF DISORDER TONIGHT.

UM, STAFF IS GOING TO GIVE, UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AN UPDATE ON THE, UM, ON THE GREEN SPACE, UM, A PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2023.

AND THEN WE'LL GIVE YOU THE FRAMEWORK OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT FOR GREEN SPACE.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS TO PROVIDE FOLLOW-UP INFORMATION TO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE TO MADE BY CITY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS THIS PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON JULY 17 MEETING, AND TO PROVIDE, UH, THE COMMISSION WITH THE FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT WAS HELD ON SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2023, AND ALSO TO ESTABLISH THE FRAMEWORK FOR GREEN SPACE ORDINANCE AND IDENTIFY THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING THE SO, UM, GREEN SPACE ORDINANCE.

IN FORM OF RECAP, ON JULY 17, UH, STAFFER PRESENTED SOME DEFINITIONS OF GREEN SPACE, BENEFITS OF GREEN SPACE, WHICH INCLUDED ENVIRONMENTAL, MENTAL, SOCIAL, AND PHYSICAL.

THE STAFF ALSO PRESENTED TO SIT TO THE COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL ABOUT, UM, GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE WITH THAT.

THE CITY CURRENTLY IS IN, UM, TOWN HOMES AND MULTI-FAMILY.

WHAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT WAS, UM, GREEN SPACE THAT IS REQUIRED UNDER MIXED USE ONE AND MIXED USE TWO AS WELL AS MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL.

WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT ARE IMPLEMENTED BY OTHER CITIES, AND WE GOT, WE HAD FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING IN COMMISSION AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL.

AND SOME OF THE, UH, FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM THAT JULY 17TH MEETING WAS, UH, UH, TO, TO LOCATE AT THE BEST PRACTICES WHETHER WE NEED TO HAVE, UH, GREEN SPACES THAT ARE BY ACREAGE OR BY NUMBER OF UNITS.

AND, UM, THINGS LIKE WHEN WE DEFINE THE GREEN SPACE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE INCLUDE THE REASON WHY WE, WE SHOULD HAVE GREEN SPACE AND TO ENSURE THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE GREEN SPACES, THEY HAVE TO BE USABLE.

WE ALSO, UH, THERE WAS ALSO TALK ABOUT GETTING INPUT FROM, UH, DEVELOPERS AS WELL AS, UH, INPUT FROM CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER DETENTION PONDS OR RETENTION PONDS CAN BE USED TO MEET GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.

WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, THERE WAS ALSO FEEDBACK ABOUT THE SIZE, UH, IN TERMS OF WHAT IS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT,

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UH, FOR GREEN SPACE AND WHAT ARE THE BEST PRACTICES.

WE WERE ALSO TASKED TO GO OUT AND, UH, MAKE SURE WE RESEARCH FROM OTHER CITIES WITHIN, AS WELL AS WITHOUT, UH, THE STATE OF TEXAS.

THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE REMAINING THEY CAN LAND IN THE CITY OF DESO, AND, UH, WHETHER WE CAN GIVE SOME INCENTIVES TO DEVELOP US TO PRE, UH, TO PROVIDE THAT THE REQUIRED GREEN SPACES.

AND, UH, THIS MAP SHOWS THEY ARE VACANT, UH, THE REMAINING VACANT SPACES IN, IN THE CITY OF DESOTO.

AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, 20%.

THIS MAP SHOWS THE AREAS IN, IN YELLOW.

THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT ARE NOT YET DEVELOPED.

THEN THAT AMOUNTS TO 20% IN TERMS OF THE REASON FOR THE GREEN SPACE ORDINANCE.

UH, THE REASON FOR THE GREEN SPACE WILL BE THE, TO SATISFY THE YEAR 2023, UH, CITY COUNCIL STRATEGY GOAL NUMBER 10.

IT, YEAH, THE, THE ORDINANCE WILL BE BASED ALSO ON THE BEST, UM, MANAGEMENT PRACTICES FROM OTHER CITIES.

IT'LL INCORPORATE FEEDBACK FROM THE JULY 17TH, 2023 JOINT MEETING.

THE, UH, ORDINANCE WILL ALSO INCORPORATE FURTHER RESEARCH FROM OTHER CITIES THAT STAFF WAS ABLE TO, UH, GET INFORMATION FROM THESE CITIES INCLUDE FRISCO, PLANO, ARLINGTON, AMONG OTHERS, AND THE INTENT AND THE PURPOSE OF THE GREEN SPACE WILL BE THIS WILL OFFER A PUBLIC CONGREGATION AS WELL AS RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES.

THESE GREEN SPACE, UM, ORDINANCE WILL BE FOR USE AND ENJOYMENT, UH, THE GREEN SPACES, IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDED, THEY'LL BE FOR USE AND ENJOYMENT OF DEVELOPMENTS, RESIDENTS, EMPLOYEES, OR USERS.

AND THIS WILL BE FOR USE AS SOCIAL, MENTAL, AND PHYSICAL BENEFITS.

THE GREEN SPACES WILL ALSO BE USED FOR THE PRESERVATION OF NATURAL AREAS AND RESOURCES.

REDUCE HEAT HIGHLAND EFFECT, ENHANCING STORM WATER AND AIR QUALITY IS WORTH FOR FLOOD MITIGATION, MITIGATION, AND FOR THE SAKE OF PROVIDING DEVELOPERS WITH SOME, WITH, WITH THE WHEREWITHAL.

THESE ARE THE PROPOSED, UH, UM, GENERAL GUIDELINES FOR THE USABLE OPEN SPACE THAT THESE, UH, GREEN SPACES SHOULD, SHOULD BE DESIGNED AS A VITAL PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY NEED TO BE COMPLEMENT AND CONNECT NEARBY GREEN SPACES THAT THEY SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL SITES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.

FOR EXAMPLE, THEY SHOULD BE LESS THAN 0.3 MILES OR LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES WALK.

THEY SHOULD BE COMPACT AND CONTIGUOUS, AND MINIMUM OF 1,500 SQUARE FEET.

THESE AREAS SHOULD BE CLEARLY DEFINED AND SEPARATED FROM VEHICLE TRAFFIC THROUGH THE USE OF POLLARDS PLANTERS, INTEGRATED SEAT WALLS OR BENCHES.

IN ADDITION, THESE, UM, GREEN SPACES NEED TO BE CONNECTED TO WALKWAYS DESIGNED TO CREATE A COMFORTABLE, CONVENIENT, AND SAFE WALKING ENVIRONMENT.

THEY NEED TO BE WIDE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE TREES, PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING, STREET FURNITURE, AND OTHER FURNISHINGS.

THEY NEED TO BE DESIGNED SUCH A WAY AS TO ALLOW FUTURE CONNECTIONS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS TO TIE IN.

AND THEY NEED TO CONNECT TO EXISTING PLANT, TRAILS, PARKS, AND NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THE FOLLOWING WILL BE THE STANDARDS THAT ARE, THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED FOR FOREST RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, SINGLE FAMILY UNITS TO BE WITHIN CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM A GREEN SPACE AREA.

FOR EXAMPLE, 80% OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO BE WITHIN 800 FEET OF A COMMON AREA IN THAT, UH, COMMON AREA OR GREEN SPACE TO BE A MINIMUM OF 1,500 SQUARE FEET THAT ARE REQUIRED AND REQUIRE ACCEPTABLE AMENITIES WITHIN OUR REQUIRED, OUR CURRENTLY REQUIRED GREEN SPACE WITHIN MULTIFAMILY AS WELL AS MOUNT, UH, MULTIFAMILY AND TOWN HOMES, UH, WHICH CURRENTLY REQUIRE 600 FEET FOR ONE BEDROOM UNIT AND 300 SQUARE FEET FOR EACH ADDITIONAL BEDROOM OVER ONE.

AND AS I SAID, AND IN OUR WORK SESSION, UM, PERIOD, THAT, UH, THEY, WE DO HAVE, UH, THE CITY DOES HAVE A MIXED, UM, GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT IN MIXED USE ONE AND MIXED USE TWO.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE, UH, THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.

AND, UH, WITHIN MU ONE AND MU TWO, WE DO HAVE, UH, THE, UH, THE REQUIREMENT FOR 10% OF THE NET LAND AREA.

AND WITHIN MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL, THERE, UH, A REQUIREMENT FOR 20%

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OF THE NET LAND AREA TO BE PROVIDED FOR GREEN SPACE.

NOW FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, UH, STAFF IS PROPOSING, AND THIS IS INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM OTHER CITIES STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT ARE FOR NON ENTIAL AREAS THAT ARE 10,000 TO 50,000 SQUARE FEET THAT ARE, THEY BE PROVISION OF 3% OF THE GROSS AREA.

AND THEN FOR THOSE NON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE GREATER THAN 50,000 SQUARE FEET, THAT THEY PROVIDE 5% OF THE GROSS SITE AREA.

AND THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES OF OUR, SAY, A RESTAURANT CAN PROVIDE OPEN SPACE.

THE OPEN SPACE WILL BE RIGHT HERE AND THE RESTAURANT WILL BE RIGHT HERE.

AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF, UH, WHEN YOU HAVE MULTI, MULTI LOTS, LIKE WE HAVE THREE, FOUR LOTS, THEY CAN, THESE LOTS CAN BE COMBINED AND PROVIDE JUST ONE BIG OPEN SPACE.

SO THESE ARE JUST ILLUSTRATIONS.

AND THIS IS, UM, UM, ALSO AN EXAMPLE OF A USABLE OPEN SPACE WITHIN, UH, NON RESIDUAL AREAS.

THIS IS, UH, SOMEWHERE IN THE, SOME PLACE IN FREE SCHOOL, UH, BY, UM, BY, BY, BY THE TOLLWAY.

THE TOLLWAY JUST AFTER, UH, 1 21 AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE TO ON 1 21.

THIS IS, UH, WHAT THEY HAVE.

THIS IS OUTSIDE OF, UM, SOME OFFICE BUILDINGS.

THEY DO HAVE, UH, SITTING AREA, OOPS.

THEY DO HAVE THINGS LIKE SITTING AREA WALKWAYS THAT CAN BE USED BY EMPLOYEES.

THIS IS, UH, ADDITIONAL, THEY ARE GREEN AREAS WITH SITTINGS AND, UM, LAWN AND TREES.

THIS IS A MORE EXAMPLES AND THEY DO ALSO HAVE, UH, LIKE A, UH, ADD, ADD SOME ART WITHIN THOSE AREAS.

SO IN TERMS OF, UH, INCENTIVES, UH, THE INCENTIVES THAT OUR C UH, STAFF IS PROPOSING IS THAT, UH, CREDIT CAN BE GIVEN FOR OFFSITE PARK OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS WHEN, UM, A PROPERTY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE OPEN SPACE WITHIN THAT SUBDIVISION, BUT THEY CAN BE ABLE TO OFFER SOMETHING FOR, FOR, FOR SAY, UH, THE GENERAL PARKLAND WHERE THERE'S NEED FOR SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT, UM, DEVELOPER MAY SAY, I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT HERE, BUT I'LL PROVIDE MONEY OR IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED IN ANY OF THE CITY, UH, PARK PARKS, PARK AREAS.

SO CREDIT CAN BE GIVEN WHEN A DEVELOPER IS ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND ALSO WHEN A DEVELOPER USES, UM, THE DETENTION PONDS WHEN THEY ARE AMENITIZE THE DETENTION PONDS, THEN THEY CAN GET CREDIT.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU PICTURES THAT SHOW AMENITIZED, UM, DETENTION PONDS.

SOME OF THE ACCEPTABLE AMENITIES, UH, WITHIN THOSE, UM, GREEN SPACE AREAS ARE LANDSCAPING, TREES, SIDEWALKS, BENCHES, TENNIS COURTS, GAZEBOS, PAVILIONS, WATER FEATURES IF DETENTION OR RETENTION, POND, DOG PARK, PARK AT WORK, AND FINISHED PLAY AREAS.

AND, UH, NOW THAT THE CITY DOES NOT, UH, NEED TO BE IN ITSELF OF SOME MORE, THOSE, UH, PROPERTIES WILL BE, WILL BE, UH, TAKEN CARE OF, OR MAINTENANCE OR OWNERSHIP WILL BE UNDER HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, AS WELL AS, UH, FOR PROPERTY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

UH, THE OWNERSHIP WILL BE UNDER PROPERTY OWNERSHIP ASSOCIATION.

THIS IS, THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF, UM, USABLE OPEN SPACES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT IS, UH, THIS, UH, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WITH THIS, UH, GREEN AREA THAT IS, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING.

IT IS SOME WALKWAYS.

WE ALSO HAVE THE ONE ON THE LEFT, ON THE RIGHT SIDE THAT IS SOME SITTING AREAS WALKWAY.

AND THIS IS ALSO WITHIN RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A PLAY AREA THAT CAN BE PROVIDED IN THOSE GREEN, UM, GREEN AREAS.

AND THIS IS, UM, ON THE RIGHT, THIS IS ALSO A GREEN AREA WITH, UH, TREES, LAWN, AND, UH, A GAZEBO.

THIS IS A, UH, AN EXAMPLE OF A DETENTION POND THAT CAN BE AMENITIZED IS, YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THEY HAVE TREES, THEY HAVE, UH, LAWN, THEY HAVE, UH, A SIDEWALK.

SAME ON, SAME WITH THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE A GAZEBO SIDEWALK, YOU CAN SEE SOME TREES.

SO PEOPLE CAN BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, ENJOY AND WALK JUST AROUND OR JUST SIT AROUND THOSE, UH, DETENTION PONDS.

SO WHEN SOMEONE, WHEN A DEVELOPER DOES THAT, THEN

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THEY CAN GET CREDIT.

AND THE, IN TERMS OF THE NEXT STEP, WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH THEIR SIT.

TONY, ACTUALLY THE SIT TONY HAS ALREADY GIVEN US IF, UM, LIKE A FRAMEWORK THAT WE CAN, WE CAN USE, UH, TO, TO DEVELOP THE, THE ORDINANCE.

AND, UM, WE GONNA TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET SOME DEVELOPER INPUTS INPUT BEFORE WE BRING THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, WHICH WE PLAN TO BRING TO YOU ALL ON.

UM, AT THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS OCTOBER 24TH, WE'LL BRING THE, THE, THE, THE, THE DRAFT ORDINANCE AND THEN, UM, THEN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, DEPENDING ON YOUR FEEDBACK, WE'LL THEN TAKE IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND THEN HOPEFULLY THE CITY COUNCIL WILL AGREE WITH, UH, THE, THE COMMISSION AS WELL STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, HOPEFULLY NOVEMBER 7TH, THE ADOPTION OF THE, UH, GREEN SPACE ORDINANCE.

AND TONIGHT WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AS WELL AS, UH, TO ASK YOU ALL TO CONTINUE WITH THIS, UH, PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL WE CAN BRING THE FRAME, UH, GREEN SPACE ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. BREWER.

YEAH, JUST TO ADD A FEW OTHER THINGS ON IT.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

JUST A COUPLE THINGS TO ADD.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A, I GUESS A BETTER VIEW.

UH, WE GOT THIS FROM OUR GIS DEPARTMENT.

THIS ACTUALLY SHOWS, UM, LAND USE IN THE CITY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT YOU LOOK AT THE YELLOW, YELLOW IS VACANT LAND.

SO WHEN, UH, MS. BEST IDENTIFY THAT WE ARE AT THAT 20% OF WHAT'S LEFT, THIS IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SEEING.

YOU COULD ACTUALLY DETERMINE WHERE THEY ARE BY LOOKING AT THE MAJOR NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST, THEIR AFFAIRS THERE.

SO THAT'S ONE THING.

ANOTHER THING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE USING THE TERM ORDINANCE.

WE ARE PROPOSING TO BRING YOU BACK AN ORDINANCE.

NORMALLY WE DON'T.

WE BRING ORDINANCES TO YOU, WE WORK WITH YOU, WE CHOP IT UP, WE MAKE A A, A PACKAGE, AND WE SEND THAT PACKAGE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND THEN, UM, WHEN WE GO TO THE COUNCIL, WE ARE TAKING THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US GET WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEY CREATE AN ORDINANCE.

BUT WE HAVE BEEN, UH, DIRECTED THAT WE, WE WANT TO SHOW YOU THE ACTUAL FINISHED PRODUCT, WHICH IS THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.

NOW, WHAT BESTA WAS SAYING EARLIER, AND I'LL USE IT IN ANOTHER LAYMAN'S TERM, THIS IS GONNA BE A TEXT AMENDMENT, IS WHY THIS CASE IS CALLED TAS, THE TEXT AMENDMENT.

SO WHAT OUR CITY ATTORNEYS HAVE ALREADY DONE, THEY LOOKED IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, THEY'VE IDENTIFIED IN CHAPTER, I BELIEVE IT'S 29, WE HAVE A SECTION DEALING WITH LANDSCAPING.

WE'RE GONNA CREATE, HE'S, THEY'RE GONNA CREATE FOR US A NEW SUBSECTION DEALING WITH GREEN SPACE, OPEN SPACE.

IT'S GOING TO ACCUMULATE THIS INFORMATION THAT WE ARE GIVING YOU AND CREATED.

SO, UH, THIS WILL BE A, A INDEPENDENT SECTION IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT WE WANNA BRING THAT BACK.

SO YOU WOULD ACTUALLY JUST BE MORE FAMILIAR.

I SEEING THE FINISHED PRODUCT.

AGAIN, NORMALLY WE'D TAKE THESE THINGS WE'RE CARVING UP, TAKE IT GET WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO GO TO COUNCIL, BUT WE'RE GONNA COME BACK WITH YOU ON 24TH SO YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.

I DO WANT TO ALSO HIGHLIGHT, JUST SO YOU BE MINDFUL THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA GET SOME, SOME COMMENTS BACK FROM DEVELOPERS, PARTICULARLY ON THAT RESIDENTIAL SIDE BECAUSE I WANNA REMIND YOU THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE A LAND PARKLAND DEDICATION FUND AND THAT'S IMPACTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOP.

AND I JUST WANNA READ IT.

UM, IN OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATION ORDINANCE SECTION 10.402 PARK SITES, THE DEVELOPER OF ANY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION SHALL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE LAND FOR THE PARK TRAIL SYSTEM AND FOR PARK PURPOSES, OUR PAY, OUR PAYMENT OF CASH IN LIEU OF LAND AS REQUIRED BY THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

THEN WHEN YOU GO TO THE APPENDIX SECTION OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCE, THAT'S ARTICLE SIX PARKLAND DEDICATION FUND, IT READS, UH, 6.1 HUNDRED A PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES.

THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNATED OR DESIGNATED IS HEREBY AUTHORIZED TO COLLECT THE FOLLOWING FEES IN LIEU OF PARKLAND DEDICATION, $500 PER DWELLING UNIT, AND TO PLACE SUCH FUNDS IN THE SPECIAL ESCROW ACCOUNT KNOWN AS THE PARKLAND DEDICATED FUND, B, PRIOR DE DEVELOPMENT FEES.

IN THE EVENT A LANDOWNER OR DEVELOPER HAS PREVIOUSLY CONTRIBUTED

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LAND OR MONEY TO THE CITY OF DESOTO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE, THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING FEE PROVISIONS SHALL NOT APPLY.

WE HAVE HAD SOME INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME DEVELOPERS, AND LEMME TAKE IT BACK IN INVESTOR'S RESEARCH, UH, SHE HAS IDENTIFIED THAT OTHER CITIES ARE HAVING BOTH, BOTH A PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE AND A, UH, ORDINANCE DEALING WITH OPEN SPACE.

SO PLEASE DO NOT THINK WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING FOR THE SOLAR THAT'S TOTALLY NEW.

UH, DEVELOPERS RECOGNIZE IT.

DEVELOPERS ARE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE A LITTLE FEEDBACK PUSHBACK BECAUSE OF COURSE, IT'S IN A SENSE DIPPING KIND OF TWICE TELLING YOU'RE GOING TO EITHER GIVE US SOME LAND OR GIVE THE CITY SOME MONEY FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PARKS.

BUT THEN YOU'RE NOW PUTTING SOME SPECIAL REGULATIONS THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN USED TO HAVING HERE.

UH, AS FAR AS THOSE REGULATIONS BEST ARE IDENTIFIED, A PROCESS BEING A TEXT AMENDMENT IS MEANING THAT, UH, WE JUST HAVE TO PUT A NOTICE IN THE CITY'S PAPER GENERAL CIRCULATION, WHICH WE HAVE, WHICH IS THE FOCUS DAILY NEWS.

UH, WE ADVERTISE IT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.

UH, AND THEN WE PLACE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, SHOULD IT GET OUTTA YOUR BOARD TO GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE SEVENTH.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE TIMEFRAME.

THAT WHY WE SAY WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU ON THE 24TH WITH THE ORDINANCE.

YOU CAN SEE THE ORDINANCE HERE.

YOU DO HAVE A CHOICE.

YOU CAN EITHER LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS, OR YOU CAN DO AS THE COUNCIL DID ON UH, THE CASE ON WINTERGREEN.

UH, WENT THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING, CLOSED IT, AND JUST ASKED FOR THE ORDINANCE, ORDINANCE ALONE TO COME BACK.

SO YOU HAVE THOSE OPTIONS, EITHER PUBLIC HEARING OPEN ON THE 24TH, WE'LL ADVERTISE IT AS A CONTINUATION.

UH, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME MORE COMMENTS OR ALLOW PUBLIC TO GIVE MORE INPUT OR YOU CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY.

AND THEN AT YOUR NEXT MEETING, IT WOULD ONLY BE THE CONSIDERATION OF A ORDINANCE I ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS YOU MAY HAVE ON THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY QUESTIONS? UH, MS. CAESAR, GO AHEAD.

YES, MR. BREW, HOW MUCH WAS THAT? UM, PER UNIT FEE FOR? FOR THE, UM, WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER PLEASE, SIR? FOR THE PARKLAND DEIDENTIFICATION FEE FOR RESIDENTIAL, IT'S $500 PER DWELLING UNIT.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DO HAVE MR. RAVENELL ON THE SLIDE THAT YOU MENTIONED, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER NOW.

I WROTE DOWN OFFSITE AND I THINK WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, IF THEY COULDN'T DEDICATE SOMETHING WITHIN THE, THEY COULD DO AN OFFSITE AND I WAS WONDERING, WOULD THE OWNERSHIP OF ANYTHING THAT THEY DO OFFSITE BE PART OF THE POA OR HOA OR WOULD IT BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY? THE OFFSITE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS WHEN SOMEONE IS, UH, UM, CONTRIBUTING TO PUBLIC PARKS.

OKAY.

THE PARKS THAT ARE OWNED BY THE CITY, THERE MAY BE NEED FOR SOME RENOVATIONS, THERE MAY BE NEED FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDED SO THEY CAN SAY WE CANNOT PRO, BUT WE CAN CONTRIBUTE SOME MONEY THAT CAN HELP WITH OTHER PUBLIC PARKS WITHIN THE CITY.

OKAY.

AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, IT'S WHERE YOU SAID THAT THE GREEN SPACE HAD TO BE WITHIN A THIRD OF A MILE, FIVE MINUTE WALKING DISTANCE OF 80% OF THE RESIDENCES.

SO COULD THERE BE A NEIGHBORHOOD LARGE ENOUGH THAT COULD REQUIRE MULTIPLE GREEN SPACES? YES.

IF IT IS A BIG, UH, SUBDIVISION, YES, DEFINITELY THEY WILL NEED TO HAVE MORE THAN JUST ONE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES.

AND THAT WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE, BUT UH, WHEN WE FINALIZE THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME WITH SOME DEFINITE, YOU KNOW, NUMBERS.

SO WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS THE ORDINANCE IS GONNA BE OUR GUIDE THAT WE'RE GONNA USE WHEN WE ARE APPROVING YES CASES.

OKAY.

AND IT'LL BE TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND IT'LL PROBABLY BE CHAPTER 29, WHICH IS LANDSCAPE.

THERE'LL BE ANOTHER SUB NUMBER THERE THAT'LL GO MORE INTO DETAILS.

WE'LL ALSO PROBABLY HAVE TO GO BACK TO EACH RESIDENTIAL SECTION AND PUT A SINGLE SENTENCE, OPEN GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.

PLEASE REFERENCE SECTION 29, UH, CODE OF THE CODES OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

DID YOU ALL PUBLICIZE THIS PARTICULAR PUBLIC HEARING FOR TONIGHT? CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE HERE TONIGHT, SO I, I WAS WANTING TO CONSIDER THAT AS WHERE WE MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT TO CONTINUE IT OPEN OR TO CLOSE IT.

OKAY.

MR. SHE, I'LL HOLD FOR DISCUSSION I THINK.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR

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STAFF? ALRIGHT, WELL WHAT WE'LL DO AT THIS TIME AND THEN THE COMMISSION CAN MAKE A DECISION, UH, AFTER DOING SO, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW AT 8:44 PM TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON TA DASH 0 0 4 DASH 23.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

IS THERE ANYBODY IN ATTENDANCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM AGAIN, I SAY ONE MORE TIME.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? OKAY, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.

A COMMISSIONER'S STAFF BASICALLY GAVE US TWO OPTIONS.

ONE OPTION IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, IN WHICH CASE ONLY THE ORDINANCE WILL COME BACK OR TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL OCTOBER 24TH AND REOPEN THE HEARING AT THAT TIME.

SO WHAT IS THE COMMISSIONER'S PLEASURE? IS THERE A MOTION? MR. BERRY? MR. CHAIRMAN, BASED ON THE TURNOUT TONIGHT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, I UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ONLY CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE AT THE 24TH MEETING.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IT HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED THERE.

SECOND? YES.

SECOND, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MS. CAESAR HAS SECOND.

OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH MEANS ONLY THE ORDINANCE WILL COME BACK ON OCTOBER 24TH, 2023.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL THE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

NAY.

OKAY.

IT, IT PASSES FOUR TO ONE.

AND SO WITH THAT VOTE, I WILL NOW TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:46 PM

[1. Consider approval of a replat of Eagle Park South Addition combining 2 separate platted lots into 1 platted lot. The properties are legally described as being Eagle Park South Tract 3.1, Block 12 (2.74 acres) and Eagle Park South Phase 2 (3.472 acres). Both properties are addressed as 600 E. Centre Park Blvd. The properties are in the William Foreman Survey, Abstract No. 462. City of DeSoto, Dallas County, Texas. The applicant is Connor Murrell and the owner is Dugan Terminals of Texas, LLC. (Case No. FP-1244-23).]

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RE PLAT OF EAGLE PARK SOUTH SOUTH EDITION CONTAINED IN TWO SEPARATE PLATTED LOTS INTO ONE PLATTED LOT.

THE PROPERTIES ARE LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING EAGLE PARK SOUTH TRACK 3.1 BLOCK 12 2.74 ACRES AND EAGLE PARK SOUTH PHASE TWO, 3.472 ACRES.

BOTH PROPERTIES ARE ADDRESSED AT 600 EAST CENTER PARK BOULEVARD.

THE PROPERTIES ARE IN THE WILLIAM FORM FOREMAN AND SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER OF 4 6 2 CEDAR DESOTO, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS.

THE APPLICANT IS CONNA MORRELL AND THE OWNER IS DUGAN TERMINALS OF TEXAS LLC.

AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER FP DASH 1244 DASH 23.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? YES.

CASE NUMBER FP 1 24 4 23 IS A REPL COMBINING TWO SEPARATE PLOTTED LOTS INTO ONE LOT.

THE SITE IS 6.2 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF EAST CENTER PARK BOULEVARD AND CONDE STREET.

IT IS ADDRESSED AS 600 EAST CENTER PARK BOULEVARD.

AND THIS, THIS ARE THE, THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE SITE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

TO THE, TO THE LEFT IS THE, THE, THE ONE OF THE LOTS AND TO THE RIGHT IS THE NORTHERN PART OF THE LAW OF THE SECOND LOT AND THE TWO ARE BEING COMBINED INTO ONE LOT TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH.

UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONED PROPERTIES THAT ARE VACANT TO THE WEST IS A PLANT DEVELOPMENT 1 47 WITH RESIDENCIES.

AND TO THE EAST IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONED PROPERTY THAT IS A WAREHOUSE.

AGAIN, THE CURRENT APPLICATION IS A REQUEST TO COMBINE TWO LOTS INTO TWO INTO ONE LOT ACCESS TO THIS PROPO.

PROPOSED LOT WILL BE FROM, FROM EAST CENTER, PARK BOULEVARD AND CONDO STREET.

THE APPLICANT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.

THE REPL MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF THE ZONING AND THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED, UH, PROPOSED PLOT AND THIS IS THE SOUTHERN PORTION AND THIS IS THE NORTHERN PORTION THAT ARE NOW BEING COMBINED OR PLOTTED TO TO INTO ONE LOT.

STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSIONER APPROVE THE RE REPORT OF EAGLE PARK SOUTH PHASE TWO, BLOCK 12, LOT ONE WITH THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE BUILDING LINE ALONG CENTER PARK BOULEVARD EAST BE CHANGED FROM 25 FEET TO 50 FEET PER SECTION 32.4 B OF THE ZONING ORDINANCES.

AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONERS ARE THERE.

IS THERE A MOTION? COMMISSIONER RENO? YES.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CASE NUMBER FP 1 2 4 4 DASH 23 3 PLAT OF EAGLE PARK SOUTH EDITION.

COMBINING TWO SEPARATE LOTS INTO ONE PLATTED LOT.

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OKAY, JUST WANNA DOUBLE CHECK SOMETHING.

OKAY, IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. CHAIR.

OKAY, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERTY SECOND BY MS. CAESAR.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED SAY NAY.

DO THE SAME.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

FIVE ZERO.

WE'LL NOW MOVE ON

[2. Consider approval of an Amended Plat for Bay Valley Professional Center, Block A, Lots 1A1, 1A2 and 1A3 (Amending Plat #4). The property is legally described as being Lots 1A1, 1A2, 1A3, 2A and 3A , Block A in the Bay Valley Professional Center and situated in the F.L. Rhodes Survey, Abstract No. 1210. The applicant and owner is Pala Capital L.P. (Case No. FP-1242-23).]

TO THE LAST AGENDA ITEM FOR THIS EVENING AND THAT IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN AMENDED PLAT FOR BAY VALLEY PROFESSIONAL CENTER.

BLOCK A LOTS ONE, A ONE, ONE, A TWO, AND ONE A THREE.

AMENDING PLAT NUMBER FOUR.

THE PROPERTY IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING LOTS ONE A 1 1 8 2 1 8 3 2 A AND THREE A BLOCK A IN THE BAY VALLEY PROFESSIONAL CENTER.

UH, IN SITUATED IN THE FFL ROAD SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 1 2 10.

THE APPLICANT AND OWNER IS PAULA CAPITAL LP.

AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER FP DASH 2042 DASH 23.

MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? CASE NUMBER FP 1 2 4 2 23 IS AN AMENDED PLA FOR BAY VALLEY PROFESSIONAL CENTER.

BLOCK A LOTS ONE, A ONE, ONE, A TWO, AND ONE A THREE.

AND THIS IS AMENDING PLOT NUMBER FOUR.

THE SITE IS 8.2 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY SOLD GENERAL RETAIL.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WINTER, WEST WINTERGREEN ROAD AND WEST OF NORTH CORO HILL ROAD.

THIS IS THE LO THE AREA OF VIEW OF OF THE PROPERTY TO THE, TO THE LEFT AND THE VICINITY MAP TO THE RIGHT, TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY, CITY OF DUNCANVILLE AND TO THE SOUTH AND WEST IS PLANT DEVELOPMENT OFF WITH SOME RESIDENCIES TO THE EAST.

THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT 15 AND IT'S VACANT AGAIN.

THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDED PLA AMENDING THE PLA FOR THE FOURTH TIME.

THE PURPOSE FOR THE AMENDED PLA NUMBER FOUR IS TO MODIFY THE DETENTION POINT EASEMENT IS SHOWN ON SHOWN CLOUDED ON THE ATTACHED ME AMENDED PLA.

THE AMENDED PLA MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE CITY ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES.

THIS IS THE, THE, THE PLOT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

AND THIS PLOT IS SPECI.

THE AREA THAT IS CLOUDED IS THE AREA THAT THEY'RE CHANGING THE DETENTION POND RIGHT HERE.

AND YES, AND HERE HAS BEEN SAID THAT, UH, WHEN THEY, UH, BRING THE FIND THE PLA, UH, FOR, FOR RECORDING, IT'LL NOT HAVE THE CLOUDING ON IT.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED PLOT OF BAY VALLEY PROFESSIONAL CENTER BLOCK ONE LOT ONE A, 1 180 2 AND ONE A THREE IS SUBMITTED.

AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ALL RIGHT.

HEARING IS SEEING NONE.

IS THERE A MOTION? MS. ER ? YES, MR. CHAIR? UM, I LOST MY PLACE HERE.

OKAY, HERE WE ARE.

UM, I MOVE THAT WE CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN AMENDED PLAT FOR BAY VALLEY PROFESSIONAL CENTER AS WRITTEN, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER FP 1242 DASH 23.

OKAY.

HAS BEEN MOVED.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

OKAY.

BEEN MOVED.

AND PROPERTY SECOND BY MR. BERRY.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, HEARING IS SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

UH, ALL OPPOSED? UH, DO THE SAME AND SAY NAY.

UH, THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

FIVE ZERO.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAT CONCLUDES THE LAST AGENDA ITEM, UH, FOR THIS EVENING.

UH, STAFF, ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO TAKE UP BEFORE WE ADJOURN? UH, YES.

JUST A REMINDER, THERE IS A JOINT MEETING WITH YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE EDC ON THE, IS THAT THE 16TH? ON THE 16TH, WHICH IS MONDAY AND THAT IS TO RECEIVE THE INITIAL REPORT FROM THE CITY'S CONSULTANT AECOM FOR THE COMP PLAN, ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC.

THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING DEALING WITH THE COMP PLAN IS ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER THE 26TH.

AND THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

UH, YOU CAN GET ALL THAT INFORMATION ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, UH, BUT WE ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO COME.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE INPUT TO HELP DEVELOP THE CITY OF DESOTO GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, MR. , WHAT'S THE TIME? SIX.

6:00 PM OKAY.

ALRIGHT, ONE.

[02:45:01]

MR. BREW, THAT LAST NOTATION YOU MENTIONED, I KNOW YOU SAID WE CAN GET IT OFF THE CITY'S UH, WEBSITE, BUT IF I CAN ASK YOU IT'S EASIER.

THE LAST NOTATION THAT YOU MENTIONED, YOU MENTIONED THE JOINT MEETING AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THE COMMUNITY.

THE LAST PUBLIC COMMUNITY MEETING THAT THE CONSULTANT WOULD BE HAVING IN ORDER FOR THE PUBLIC TO GIVE INPUT ON THE COMP PLAN IS ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER THE 26TH AT 6:00 PM HERE AT THE TOWN HALL CENTER.

UH, IT'D PROBABLY BE A COMBINATION OF BEING CONDUCTED HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER AS WHERE AS THE FOIL.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT, STAFF, ANYTHING ELSE MR. CHAIR? I THINK WE SHOULD, UH, THANK SISTER.

UH, I, I LIKE CHURCH .

OH, THE GOOD SISTER.

I LIKE YOU MISS MIN BECAUSE SHE WORKED HARD THIS EVENING.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.

YES, YES, YES.

YOU CAN COME TO CHURCH WITH ME TOO IF YOU WANT TO.

.

YEAH.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

ALRIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, LAST CALLED.

ALRIGHT.

NO ONE ELSE.

ALRIGHT, WELL, COMMISSIONERS, THE TIME IS NOW 8:55 PM IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING? SO MOVED.

MR. CHAIR.

SECOND.

OKAY.

I THINK MR. MR. CHILI CHER TO IT.

SO IT'S BEEN MOVED BY, UH, MS. CESAR.

MS. SECONDARY BY MR. CHILI.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY GOODNIGHT.

GOOD NIGHT.

ALRIGHT.