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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.[A. WORK SESSION AGENDA:]
TUESDAY, AUGUST THE 22ND.LET'S OFFICIALLY CALL THE CITY OF DESOTO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WORK SESSION TO A START AT 6:01 PM UM, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
UM, FIRST IS THE MEETING MINUTES ARE MY PREVIOUS MEETING, JULY 25TH.
ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE MEETING MINUTES AS WRITTEN AND PRESENTED? MR. CHAIR? YES, SIR.
UM, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MS. JORDAN WILLIAMS OFFLINE ABOUT THIS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY IT PUBLICLY.
UH, LAST MEETING, WE TABLED THE MINUTES FROM, I WANNA SAY IT WAS JUNE, UH, JUNE 27TH.
WE TABLED THE JUNE 27TH MINUTES, UH, TO BASICALLY MAKE SOME ADDITIONS, MODIFICATIONS OR OTHERWISE.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE THE MINUTES HERE TODAY TO VOTE ON, SO I BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE TO, UH, ACTUALLY CONSIDER THEM NEXT, UH, MEETING.
BUT THE MINUTES IN THE UNOFFICIAL FORM IS CURRENTLY PUBLISHED ON THE DESOTO WEBSITE.
UH, SO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, THOSE MINUTES DON'T REFLECT OUR VOTE AS IT RELATES TO NANCE FORM, WHICH WOULD BE ITEM E TWO ON THOSE PARTICULAR MINUTES.
AND I WOULD ALSO, I GUESS, REQUEST, SINCE THEY'RE UNOFFICIAL FOR THEM TO BE TAKEN DOWN UNTIL WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE AND MAKE THEM OFFICIAL.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S BEING REPRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE APPROVE THOSE MINUTES, WHICH WE HAVE NOT AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME.
ANYTHING ELSE, MR. P? UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING IS IN THE MINUTES THAT I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER TODAY, THE JULY 25TH, UH, 2023 MINUTES, UM, UNDER E ONE.
THE DATE IS CORRECT, THE FIRST TIME IT'S PRINTED, UH, BUT WHEN WE, UH, LOOK AT THE MOTION, UH, THAT WAS MADE BY ME AND THEN SECONDED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER GILSTRAP, UH, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT DATE.
SO BOTH DATES SHOULD, UH, BE JUNE 27TH.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS TO THE MEETING? MINUTES? ADDITION OR DELETIONS? LESIONS.
NEXT STEP OF BUSINESS, UH, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF NEVA VITA EDITION LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST WINTER GREEN ROAD IN THE WEST SIDE OF WEST OF HAMPTON ROAD, WEST SIDE OF WESTMORELAND ROAD AND ADDRESS AS 1 3 5 WEST WINTERGREEN ROAD.
THE PROPERTY IS 13.230 ACRES OF LAND AND CONSISTS OF TWO LOTS.
THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE CARLOS WIDE SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 1 5 5 7.
CITY OF DESOTO, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS.
THE APPLICANT IS BURN SURVEYING COMPANY AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS NUEVA VITA, LIFE NEW ASSEMBLY, CASE NUMBER FP DASH 12 4 1 DASH 23.
MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT PLEASE? UM, THIS IS JUST A MINOR PLA GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
THEY'RE SUBDIVIDING, UM, A TRUCK THAT IS CURRENTLY ONE TRUCK INTO TWO LOTS.
SO IT'S A MINOR PLA THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT THEY'RE DOING AT THE MOMENT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY SITE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED YET, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS THE RIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND SUBY THEIR PROPERTIES AS LONG AS THEY MEET, UH, THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, WHICH IT DOES.
HAS THE APPLICANT GIVEN YOU ANY INDICATION OF FUTURE USE? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.
I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. CHAIR, PLEASE.
A CLARIFICATION? UH, I DIDN'T GET THAT.
I DON'T WANNA PRETEND LIKE I DID 'CAUSE I DIDN'T, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DID SHE SAY? THE 13 ACRES IS BEING DIVIDED INTO TWO.
NO, I SAID IT'S A, IT'S A TRACT OF LAND RIGHT NOW.
ONE TRACT OF LAND THAT IS BEING DIVIDED INTO TWO LOTS.
THEY'RE JUST PLOTTING A TRACT OF LAND.
INTO TWO LOTS TO MAKE IT LEGAL.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT I READ, BUT I WAS LISTENING WITH A DIFFERENT SET OF EARS.
HAS THE APPLICANT GIVEN YOU ANY INDICATION OF FUTURE ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS? NO.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? JUST ON, ON A NOTE ON THAT, THEY ARE PLANNING IT FOR THE GENERAL RETAIL REGULATIONS.
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IF HE HAPPENS TO DECIDE AT SOME POINT HE DOES WANT TO COME IN TO DO A REZONING, THEN WHATEVER THAT ZONING DISTRICT HE IS LOOKING TO REZONE IT, HE WOULD HAVE TO BE SURE THAT THOSE REGULATIONS ARE MET.THIS IS A GENERAL RETAIL, THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE AND OUR REGULATIONS ARE 40,000 SQUARE FEET.
IF HE CAME IN WITH ANOTHER DISTRICT, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT THEN.
THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE, MR. BREWER.
AND IT COULD BE THAT THEY WANT TO SELL THE PROPERTY, SO THEY HAVE TO PLOT IT IN THE EVENT THAT THEY WANT TO SELL IT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT FUTURE RETAIL WE'VE GOT COMING TO THAT CORRIDOR.
I KNOW THEY GOT SOMETHING UP THEIR SLEEVE.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF HEARING AND SCENE? NONE.
WE DO HAVE TECHNICALLY TWO ITEMS ON THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING.
UH, THE FIRST ITEM CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A ZONING CHANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY 10 TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF SF EIGHT WITH DEVIATIONS.
THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF 6.165 ACRES OF LAND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS TRACK 20 AND JOHN LEWIS SURVEY ABSTRACT 7 7 4 AND ADDRESSED AS 1119 BULL ROAD.
THE PROPERTY IS, EXCUSE ME, THE APPLICANT IS ROCK DESIGN ENGINEERING AND THE OWNERS ARE RONAN JOHNSON AND JONATHAN ORTEGA.
MR. BREWER IS GOING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
UM, WE DID FULFILL OUR STATE AND LOCAL REGULATIONS BY POSTING A, UH, NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER.
THE NOTICES THAT WERE MAILED OUT OUR PROCESS, THEY ARE PREPARED AND STUFFED IN OUR OFFICE IN THE GREEN ENVELOPES.
WE THEN TAKE 'EM UP TO A MAIL ROOM THAT'S IN THIS FRONT LOBBY.
THE, THEN ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER FROM ANOTHER DEPARTMENT THEN WILL COME IN AND TAKE THOSE ENVELOPES AND RUN 'EM THROUGH THE POST-IT MACHINE.
WELL, IT TURNS OUT OUR POSTAL MACHINE WENT DOWN AND THOSE ENVELOPES SET IN THAT OFFICE WITHOUT BEING MAILED.
SO WE HAVE NOT MET THAT OBLIGATION OF SENDING WRITTEN NOTICES TO EVERYBODY WITHIN 200 OR THE COURTESY NOTICES WITHIN 400.
SO WE ARE HAVING TO RE ADVERTISE THE ENTIRE PROCESS.
WE'VE SPOKEN WITH THE, YOU KNOW, APPLICANT AND, AND MADE THEM AWARE THAT BECAUSE OF THAT WE HAVE TO, UM, READVERTISE NOW, I HAVE SINCE CHANGED THE PROCESS THAT MY STAFF HAS NO LONGER JUST PUT ENVELOPES IN THAT ROOM.
WE ARE TO TAKE 'EM, UH, PUT 'EM TO THE MACHINES OURSELVES AND ALSO HAND CARRY THEM UP TO THE POST OFFICE AND, AND ALSO COME BACK AND ON A CHECKLIST, CHECK THE DATE THAT WE TOOK IT TO THE POST OFFICE TO BETTER ASSURE THAT WE CAN AT LEAST SAY IF CHALLENGED.
WE HAVE MET OUR STATE AND LOCAL OBLIGATION OF ENSURING THAT AT LEAST WITH THE POST OFFICE, WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT THE POST OFFICE WILL DELIVER IT.
BUT AT LEAST FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, WE CAN.
OTHERWISE THEY HAVE SET THERE.
AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE WHERE WHEN IT FINALLY GOT NOTICED THAT THEY HADN'T BEEN SENT, IT FAILED TO MEET THAT 15 DAY PRIOR 10 DAY PRIOR NOTIFICATION DEADLINE.
SO YOU WILL SEE IT ON YOUR, YOUR ONE OF YOUR NEXT MEETINGS IN SEPTEMBER.
I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO EXPAND ON THIS IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT YOU JUST NOTICED THERE'S A 10 DAY NOTIFICATION DEADLINE FOR WRITTEN, FOR WRITTEN PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES.
AND THAT'S 10 DAYS PRIOR TO OUR POST-IT MEETINGS.
NO, 10 DAYS PRIOR TO THE DATE THAT YOU'RE GONNA CONDUCT THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
OUR NOTICES IN THE NEWSPAPER, WE ARE DOING IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE AND ALSO BY LOCAL REGULATIONS.
THE PUBLIC NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER IS ONLY REALLY APPLICABLE TO THE PUBLIC NOTE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE AS A CITY, AS A COURTESY WANT TO GET A HEADS UP ON IT.
SO WE DO OUR NOTICES IN ADVANCE OF YOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
AND THAT NOTICE WILL GIVE NOTICE OF BOTH YOUR PUBLIC HEARING AND IT WOULD ALSO IDENTIFYING LANGUAGE IF APPROVED OR IF APPEALED BY THE APPLICANT OF AN ANTICIPATED DATE BY THE, UH, GOING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO PUBLICATION DATE, WE TRY TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'RE MANDATED TO DO.
UH, WE MET THAT OBLIGATION, BUT IT'S THE WRITTEN NOTICE THAT WE DID NOT COMPLY WITH, WHICH IS 10 DAYS PRIOR TO YOUR PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, BY NO FAULT OF YOUR OWN, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR DILIGENCE AND ENSURING THAT YOU ARE ON TOP OF THESE ISSUES MOVING FORWARD.
SO WE HAVE TO RESCHEDULE THIS CASE.
UH, I DON'T WANNA SEE A CASE NUMBER ON HERE.
UH, AGENDA ITEM E ONE TO OUR NEXT
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MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE THE FIRST TUESDAY OF SEPTEMBER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.I'M HERE IN SEPTEMBER THE 12TH.
'CAUSE THAT'S RIGHT AFTER LABOR DAY.
SO AGENDA ITEM E ONE WILL BE RESCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER.
WHY DIDN'T I READ THAT? SEPTEMBER THE 12TH.
THE NEXT CASE ON OUR PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS EVENING, CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM THE JUNE 27TH, 2023 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO REZONE A 10.29 ACRE TRACT OF LAND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING LOTS ONE A, ONE B TWO, AND THREE IN THE FOUR ACRES EDITION.
AND GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST BELTLINE ROAD AND SOUTH ELLERSON ROAD AS WRITTEN AND PRESENTED.
CASE NUMBER Z DASH 1 4 9 4 DASH 23.
I THINK WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS.
THIS IS PROBABLY THE THIRD TIME THAT IT'S BEEN BEFORE US.
SO MR. BREWER, PLEASE TAKE THE WHEEL, SIR.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN THROUGH YOU TWICE, WELL THREE TIMES TODAY, BUT THIS IS THE SECOND.
THIS IS THE FIRST CONTINUATION FROM THE LAST TIME YOU DID THE FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING ON THE NEW SITE PLAN.
UH, AGAIN, JUST FOR THE AUDIENCE, UH, THAT'S LOOKING ALSO, AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE THREE LOTS THAT ARE ON THE CORNER OF, UH, BELT WEST, BELT LINE AND SOUTH, UH, ELLISON.
THESE THREE HERE, UH, THIS SKINNY LOT HERE IS NOT A PART OF THIS, UH, PROJECT.
AND IT IS A, A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE THERE AND ALSO NOT THIS LOWER SECTION DOWN HERE.
AGAIN, JUST TO GIVE YOU A VISUAL, UM, AGAIN, WE'RE SEEING THE RED AREA, WHICH ARE THREE SEPARATE PLA LOTS, THREE SEPARATE LOTS.
UH, SO AGAIN, ON, I'M, I'M GIVING YOU A LITTLE HISTORY THAT WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY GO MORE INTO DETAIL DURING YOUR FIRST PRESENTATION.
SO OFFICIALLY ON MARCH THE NINTH, 2021 AND APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED TO STAFF REQUESTING TO REZONE THE 10.29 ACRE TRACK OF LAND AT THIS CORNER.
UH, THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THAT PROPOSAL IDENTIFIED 64 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, WHICH BY MATH, THAT IS 2.22 LOTS PER ACRE.
ON APRIL THE 13TH, 2021, A PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONDUCTED BEFORE YOUR COMMISSION.
FOLLOWING THAT PUBLIC HEARING, A MOTION PREVAILED BY A VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UH, MY STAFF AND I INVESTIGATION, UH, IDENTIFIED THAT THE APPLICANT DID NOT APPEAL THAT DENIAL RECOMMENDATION.
THEN DURING THE SAME YEAR ON JUNE THE 22ND, 2021, A NEW APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED TO STAFF THAT REQUESTED TO, AGAIN, REZONE THE SAME, UH, PROPERTY.
THAT CONCEPT PLAN WAS IDENTIFIED A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL LOTS, AND THERE WAS 6 51 IN THIS CASE, WHICH IS 4.90 CENT NINE SIX LOTS PER ACRE.
ON AUGUST THE 10TH, 2021, A PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONDUCTED BEFORE YOUR COMMISSION FILING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
A MOTION WAS MADE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, BUT IT FAILED BY A VOTE OF TWO TO THREE.
THE APPLICANT DID APPEAL, UH, THE PNCS RECOMMENDATION.
AND ON SEPTEMBER THE SEVENTH, 2021, A PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONDUCTED BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS CASE FOR THE REVISED SITE PLAN.
FOLLOWING THAT PUBLIC HEARING, A MOTION WAS MADE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, BUT IT FAILED BY A VOTE OF THREE TO FOUR.
SO NOW WE HAVE THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO REZONE THIS SAME PROPERTY.
THE PROPOSED PD IS TO ESTABLISH 62 NEW TOWNHOMES AND TWO RETAIL COMMERCIAL LOTS.
THE APPLICANT IS VOLUNTEERING TO REMOVE CERTAIN RETAIL COMMERCIAL USAGES FROM THIS PD THAT MAY BUY, THEY MAY, MAY NOT BE CONDUCIVE AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
ON YOUR D IS, UM, I HAVE PLACED A, A LITTLE PACKAGE OF SEVERAL PAPERS.
UM, COMMISSIONER GIRA, I BELIEVE WAS ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAS QUESTIONED, WELL, IF HE'S SAYING HE'S WILLING TO NOT INCLUDE THESE, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT HE, UH, WILL BE ALLOWED ON THIS CORNER? SO THAT'S WHAT THIS CHART IS.
STAFF MENTIONED TO YOU THAT IT'S A VERY LONG LIST.
SO I'VE HIGHLIGHTED TO YOU IN YELLOW THE GENERAL RETAIL CATEGORY.
I'VE, ON THE SIDE OF THAT CHART, YOU'LL SEE IN ORANGE, THOSE ARE THE, UH, USAGES THAT HE IS VOLUNTARILY DESIRING TO NOT HAVE A PART OF THIS PD.
SO EVERY OTHER SQUARE THAT YOU SEE HAS AN X IN IT IS A USE BY RIGHT? IF IT'S AN S THAT WOULD REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, ASPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
BUT IF IT'S A PD, HE COULD COME AND STILL ASK FOR IT.
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BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE GOT ASKED.SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PRODUCING TO YOU.
UH, NOTED, UH, AS WE MENTIONED THE LAST TIME, THE APPLICANT IS OFFERING SOME VOLUNTARY ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES THAT THE TOWN HOME DEVELOPERS HAVE TO SELECT FROM TO ENHANCE THE FRONT FACADE OF THE PROPOSED TOWN HOMES.
NOW, WE KNOW WHEN WE COME TO YOU WITH OTHER PDS, WE BRING TO YOU A CONCEPT SITE PLAN, A BUILDING ELEVATIONAL VIEW, AND A LANDSCAPE VIEW.
UH, THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE HAS TOLD US AT THIS PRESENT TIME, HE DOES NOT HAVE A BUILDER IN MIND.
UH, WE HAVE TOLD HIM THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET SOMETHING, UH, ARCHITECTURAL VIEW, BUT THE REALITY OF IT UNTIL HE GETS THAT BUILDER ON BOARD TO TRULY KNOW WHAT HE'S GOING TO HAVE, THAT IS WHY THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS ARE NOT HERE.
AND HE'LL GO MORE TO THAT DISCUSSION WHEN HE MAKES HIS PRESENTATION AT YOUR SEVEN O'CLOCK PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS THE DEVIATION CHART, UH, TO LET YOU SEE WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
UH, AGAIN, UH, THE DEVIATION IS BEING FOR THE SECTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL SECTION, WHICH IS A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED.
UM, THE REGULATIONS FOR THE ZONING ORDINANCE ARE SHOWED IN THE SECOND COLUMN, UH, THREE TIMES SQUARE FEET FOR THE AREA, A HUNDRED FEET FOR THE LOT DEPTH, 25 FEET FROM LOT 25 FEET SIDE ALLEYS ARE REQUIRED IN EVERY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
AND WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO OPEN SPACE, THE KEY WORD IS USABLE OPEN SPACE.
WE MAY HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT LATER, BUT OUR ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN TO SAY, USABLE OPEN SPACE.
AND THE REGULATION FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACH SENDS YOU TO THE MULTIFAMILY.
AND IN THE MULTIFAMILY SECTION, IT IS WRITTEN THAT IT'S DETERMINED BY BEDROOMS. A ONE BEDROOM IS CALCULATED BY USING THE FACTOR OF 600 SQUARE FEET FOR EACH ADDITIONAL BEDROOM.
ABOVE THE ONE YOU ADD ANOTHER 300.
SO IF HE'S HAVING TWO BEDROOMS, WE'LL HAVE 900 TIMES WHATEVER THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. AND AS I SHOW YOU ON THE, ON THE BOTTOM NOTE, UH, SINCE YOUR LAST MEETING, WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE A, GET A DEFINITIVE COUNT OF HOW MANY BEDROOMS FOR THE, UH, TWO BEDROOMS AND THREE BEDROOMS HE PROPOSED.
AND THUS, YOU SEE IN THAT SECOND COLUMN, THAT'S WHY I MULTIPLIED 900, WHICH IS AGAIN, 600 PLUS 300 TIMES 26 PROPOSED BEDROOMS. THE 1200 IS FOR THE THREE BEDROOMS, 1200 SQUARE FEET TIMES 36.
AND THUS, IN THIS CASE, FOR THIS SITE IS OPEN SPACE, GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT IS 66,600 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS 1.53 ACRES AND REALITY OF IT, HE REALIZES WITH HIS CURRENT SITE, HE'S NOT MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT.
AND THUS, SINCE YOUR LAST MEETING, HE'S ADDED DEVIATION REQUEST FROM THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.
WHAT HE'S AUTHORIZED TO DO, AND HE'LL TELL YOU DURING HIS PRESENTATION, UM, WON'T HAVE NECESSARILY A DEFINITIVE NUMBER, BUT IT WILL BE WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS WHAT HE'S REQUESTING.
AND WE'LL GO INTO THAT DISCUSSION LATER.
BUT THE DEVIATION REQUESTS AGAIN ARE, UM, SMALLER AREA FROM 3000 TO 2300 DEPTH, 100 TO 95 FEET FRONT YARD, 25 TO 20, UH, SIDE YARD, 25 TO 10 NO ALLEY REQUIREMENTS.
AND, UH, AGAIN, AS I SHOWED ON OVER SPACE, UH, IS WHAT THE SITE PLAN SHOWS.
NOW THIS KEY IS TO NOTE, UH, STAFF AND I, WE DIDN'T REALLY EVEN THINK ABOUT IT UNTIL IT GOT BROUGHT UP TILL LATER.
THERE'S A PARK RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU SOME MORE DETAILS ON IT.
SO AS FAR AS THAT NOTE, THE CITY OF DESOTA DOES HAVE A SIX ACRE PUBLIC PARK WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THIS PD RIGHT BEHIND WALMART ON ELLISON.
AND WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION, EVEN GIVE YOU INFORMATION ABOUT THE 2020 MASTER PARK PLAN TO LET YOU SEE THAT.
UM, IN OUR EYES, WE'RE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, PROVIDE AMENITIES FOR, UH, THE RESIDENTS.
SO WE TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
ALRIGHT, THIS IS THE LIST THAT, UH, WAS GIVEN TO YOU AT YOUR LAST MEETING.
THE LIST OF, UM, USAGES THAT THE APPLICANT IS, IS DESIRING YOUR APPROVAL TO PROHIBIT VIA THIS PARTICULAR PD BARNES, LIKE SPORTS COURTS AND TENNIS SUPPORT STRUCTURE, COMMUN, UH, COMMUNICATIONS OPERATIONS, AMATEUR COMMUNICATIONS, OPERATIONS, COMMERCIAL FIRE POLICE, AND MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS, MICROWAVE, UH, REFLECTOR, ANTENNA, SEWAGE PUMPING STATION, TELEPHONE BUSINESS OFFICE.
AND YOU HAVE THE LIST THAT GOES ON AND ON.
AND AGAIN, I'VE MARKED THIS ON THAT CHART THAT I HAVE GIVEN YOU.
AND THE END RESULT IS WHAT'S LEFT IS WHATEVER THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE MARKED IN THAT.
ON THAT CHART, THE APPLICANTS ALSO VOLUNTEERED SOME, UH, ARCHITECTURAL, UH, PROPOSALS.
AND THEN AGAIN, ALSO REMEMBER THERE WAS A SENATE BILL THAT WAS PASSED FOUR
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OR FIVE YEARS AGO THAT ACTUALLY RESTRICTED CITIES FROM THEMSELF MANDATING CERTAIN BUILDING, UH, MATERIALS.UH, CITIES IN THE PAST USED TO QUICKLY DEFINE THAT WE WANTED FOUR-SIDED BRICKS, BUT THOSE REGULATIONS, UM, CONSIDERED ILLEGAL.
IT'S WHATEVER BUILDING MATERIAL THAT IS APPROVED IN THE ADOPTED BUILDING REGULATION THAT YOUR CITY HAS CURRENTLY.
UH, BUT HE IS BRINGING YOU, UH, HIS RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HE'S VOLUNTARILY DOING FRONT PORCHES OF LESS THAN 50 SQUARE FEET FACADE, UH, ART ARTICULATION, NO LESS THAN 18 INCHES, AND THE LIST THAT GOES ON THERE.
WHAT EXACTLY IS FACADE ARTICULATION? I WAS GOING TO ASK HIM WHEN HE MAKES THAT PRESENTATION.
YOU SEE, I TRIED TO FLOW BY IT REAL QUICK 'CAUSE I, I CAN BARELY EVEN SAY IT, BUT WE'LL LET THAT BE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED HIM WHEN HE COMES.
SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU, UH, BACK IN JULY.
AND SOME OF THE KEY THINGS TO REALIZE AT THAT TIME, WE WERE LOOKING AT, UH, HAVING A SHARED ENTRANCE TO WHERE ALL TRAFFIC COMING OFF OF BELT LINE WAS GOING TO GO INTO THIS SINGLE, UH, ACCESS, NOT ONLY ACCESS INTO THE RESIDENTIAL SECTION, BUT ALSO HAVE AN OPENING, PUBLIC OPENING.
THEY WENT OVER TO THE, UM, COMMERCIAL TRACKS AND THEN HIS EXIT, UH, PARTICULARLY FOR THE COM, UH, RESIDENTIAL, WAS GOING TO BE OFF OF, OF ELLISON.
AND AGAIN, THIS SITE PLAN, UM, DID, UH, YOU KNOW, SHOWED HIS PROPOSED PARKLAND AREA, AND THIS IS THE ONE YOU ACTED UPON DURING YOUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING ON JUNE 27TH, 2023.
A PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONDUCTED BEFORE YOUR COMMISSION IN ORDER TO CONSIDER THE APPLICANT'S, UH, APPLICATION DURING THAT PUBLIC HEARING, THE COMMISSION IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR THE APPLICANT TO MEET WITH STAFF IN ORDER TO ADDRESS COMMISSION'S CONCERNS WITH THE PROPERTY'S IMPACTED TRAFFIC, THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE BEING PROPOSED, ROADWAY WIDTHS WITH THAT SITE PLAN WAS SHOWING, HAD SOME 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAYS AND SOME 40 FOOT RIGHT OF WAYS, AND THE NEED FOR A WALKING TRAIL WITHIN THE MIDDLE, UH, OPENING SPACE AREA.
AND MOTION WAS MADE TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS CASE AT YOUR COMMISSION MEETING TONIGHT, JULY, UH, FOR THE MEETING TONIGHT, THAT UNANIMOUSLY PREVAILED BY VOTE SEVEN TO ZERO.
DURING THE COMMISSIONER'S MEETING ON JULY THE 27TH, STAFF INFORMED YOU THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT HAD MADE A REQUEST TO US TO CONTINUE IT FROM THE 20 JULY 27TH TILL AUGUST THE 22ND.
SO LEMME CORRECT EVERYTHING I JUST SAID.
YOUR ACTION SUPPORTED A CONTINUATION ON JULY 27TH.
WHEN WE GOT TO THAT MEETING, WE INFORMED YOU THAT WE HAD BEEN INFORMED BY THE APPLICANT THEIR DESIRE TO CONTINUE IT TO TONIGHT, AUGUST 27TH, 22ND, AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT.
SO A MOTION WAS, UH, MADE BY YOUR BOARD TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TILL YOUR AUGUST 22ND MEETING, WHICH IS TONIGHT.
SO THIS IS THE NEW CONCEPT PLAN.
AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE THINGS THAT I REFERRED TO, UH, STAFF, WE, YOU KNOW, AS WE STARTED DIGESTING IN MORE, WE HAD A CONCERN OF MIXING THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC IN THIS SAME AREA.
IF YOU COULD PICTURE A VEHICLE TRYING TO COME OUT AND IF THERE'S A STACKING SITUATION THAT OCCURS HERE, THAT WOULD CREATE A, A BOTTLENECK SITUATION.
THERE ALSO, SOMEBODY COMING OFF OF WEST BELTLINE TRYING TO TURN INTO THERE IF THERE'S A STACKING SITUATION.
SO WE JUST FELT THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
SO A PART OF OUR STAFF, UH, UH, REQUIREMENT WAS TO CREATE A SEPARATE SINGLE OPENING FOR THE COMMERCIAL TRACK, BUT A SHARED ONE, NOT ONE FOR EACH TRACK, BUT A SHARED ONE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED.
AND ALSO THAT, UH, OPENED UP, UH, THE APPLICANT'S DEFINITELY DESIRE TO HAVE AN EXIT FROM THAT COMMERCIAL STRETCH.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE ON THE DRAWING.
THE, UM, EXITING FOR THE RESIDENTIAL REMAIN THE SAME.
UH, THE SITE PLAN SHOWS THAT ALL OF THE ROADWAYS ARE 50 FOOT EVERYWHERE.
ALSO, YOU WILL SEE A WALKING TRAIL THAT'S, UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING FROM THE, UH, FROM THE UNIT, UH, IN THE SOUTHWEST MOS CORNER, A WALKING TRAIL THAT'S COMING THROUGH THE MIDDLE MEDIAN.
NOW, HE'S ALSO, I'M GONNA SHOW YOU ON A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
UH, HE IS PROPOSING, UH, THIS STRETCH OF LAND BEHIND THE, UM, DWELLINGS AS OPEN SPACE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T AGREE WITH.
THAT'S WHY I WAS EMPHASIZING THE WORD USABLE.
UH, BUT WE'LL GET INTO THAT DISCUSSION, UH, LATER.
BUT THIS IS THE REVISED SITE PLAN THAT'S COMING TO YOU FOR, UH, NEW CONSIDERATION, TAKING IN MIND WHAT YOU COMMUNICATED TO
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THE APPLICANT AND ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM STAFF.SO THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ACTING ON TONIGHT.
UH, THIS IS A LANDSCAPE PLAN AS AGAIN, UM, UH, HE'S COME BACK AND TRYING TO SHOW THIS AREA HERE.
NOW IN THIS CORNER, HE IS IDENTIFYING THAT HE IS MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS.
THIS IS A CHALLENGE THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING THAT RIGHT NOW TONIGHT, IF WE ASK, WE COULD NOT QUANTITATIVELY TELL YOU HOW MANY SQUARE FEET HE'S HAVING, BUT THE SITE PLAN IS SHOWING WHAT HE'S PROPOSING.
AND OUR NEXT SLIDE, WE'LL GET INTO WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THIS PROPERTY.
UM, WE'VE, I'VE PULLED FROM THE 2015 COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, UH, SOME IMPORTANT LANGUAGE AND ONE OF THE GOALS AND THE LAND USE, AGAIN, THE FIRST GOAL OF THE LAND USE READS TO ACHIEVE A BALANCE OF LAND USES THAT WILL PROVIDE AND PROTECT THE DESIRED QUALITY OF LIFE AND RECOGNIZE THE NATURAL FEATURES THAT MAKE DESOTO A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, AND VISIT OBJECTIVE NUMBER ONE, PROVIDE A MIX OF LAND USAGE IN APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS THAT WILL ATTRACT BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND BUSINESS USAGES.
SO TO STAFF, THIS PROJECT MEETS THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING TO YOU IN THAT CASE.
BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND SUPPORT TO SHOW WHERE IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DEFINED BY THE 2015 PLAN.
NOW THE NEXT SLIDE, A COPY FROM THE 2020 PARKS AND RECREATION OPEN SPACE, UM, AND, AND TRAILS MASTER PLAN.
AND PROXIMITY WISE, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW THAT IS THE CORNER OF BELTLINE IN ELLISON.
AND WHILE IT MAY BE HARD TO SEE, THE NEXT SCREEN WILL BECOME MORE AVAILABLE, UH, RIGHT BEHIND WALMART ON ELLISON IS THE NORTH ELLISON PARK.
I'VE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE MORE DETAIL, UH, TO, TO GIVE YOU SOME MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT WHAT'S AT THIS PARK.
IT TALKS ABOUT SIX ACRES, PLAYGROUND, RESTROOM, UM, PICNIC TABLES, BENCHES, AND ACTUALLY IT HAS A WALKING TRAIL AS YOU SEE ALL THE WAY AROUND IT, AGAIN IN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY.
SO BACK TO THE OFFICIAL NOTIFICATION WISE, UM, THIS IS A NOTIFICATION MAP OF WHAT NOTICES WE MAILED OUT.
THE BLACK IS THE AREA OF WHERE THE THREE TRACKS OF LANDS ARE.
THE BLUE IS THE 200 FOOT RADIUS BOUNDARY, AND THE PURPLE IS THE COURTEOUS NOTICE COURTESY NOTICE FROM 200 TO 400 FEET.
UM, STAFF RECEIVED THREE LETTERS, AND THE THREE LETTERS ARE NOT TRIGGERING THE 20% MANDATE BECAUSE IT'S NOT 20% WITHIN THIS BLUE AREA THAT WOULD'VE TRIGGERED AND REQUIRED THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE TO DO A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF THE FULL COUNCIL.
SO THAT WOULD NOT BE APPLICABLE IN THIS CASE.
AGAIN, THE ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY IS GENERAL RETAIL SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, UH, TO THE NORTH SINGLE FAMILY, 10.
UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S THE PROPERTY THERE.
UH, WE ARE IN, UH, PLACE FIVE COUNCILWOMAN, DR.
OKAY, DIANA, SO I APOLOGIZE AGAIN, BUT THIS IS IN HER DISTRICT.
STAFF SUPPORTS THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO ESTABLISH A TOWN HOME AND RETAIL, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN THIS LOCATION.
THE TOWN HOMES WILL GIVE ASPIRING HOMEOWNERS AN OPTION TO OWN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE LARGER SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL HOMES WITHIN THIS GENERAL AREA WITH A HIGH QUALITY DESIGN, HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES.
AS STATED EARLIER, IT IS STAFF'S OPINION THAT THIS WILL BE A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT WILL BRING A HIGH QUALITY HOUSING PROJECT TYPE THAT'S NOT GENERALLY AVAILABLE TO BENEFIT THE CITY OF DESOTO.
THIS PD WILL BE A DIFFERENT PRODUCT IN COMPARISON TO THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING IN THE GENERAL AREA.
THE APPLICANT IS MEETING A CITY GOAL OF PROVIDING MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT USE ALONG BELTLINE ROAD, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH A RECENT COMMERCIAL NODE STUDY COMMISSIONED BY OUR CITY COUNCIL.
ONE OF THE FINDINGS OF THAT STUDIES IS THAT CREATING DEVELOPMENT WITHIN BOTH RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL USAGES TO COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER IS MARKET SUPPORTED TO BRING NEW OPPORTUNITIES TO THE CITY OF DESOTO, ESPECIALLY ALONG BELTLINE ROAD STAFF.
ALSO COMMENDS THE APPLICANT'S DESIRE TO REMOVE CERTAIN RETAIL COMMERCIAL USAGES FROM THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY NOT BE CONDUCIVE FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING IS UNDER COMMISSION, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY'S COUNCIL FOR THE APPLICANT'S
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REQUEST TO REZONE THIS 10.29 ACRE TRACK OF LAND, UH, FOR THOSE THREE LOTS FROM, UM, EXISTING GENERAL RETAIL TO A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH BASE ZONINGS OF GENERAL RETAIL AND SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL WITH THE REQUESTED DEVIATIONS.I'LL ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
AND YOU WENT WAY BACK IN THE WAY BACK MACHINE AND BROUGHT UP CASES FROM TWO YEARS AGO TO GIVE US ADDITIONAL INPUT.
UM, IS THE APPLICANT GOING TO BE HERE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS? YES, HE'S, I WAS THERE.
UM, I SEE ON YOUR MAP WE HAVE THREE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION, BUT ONLY TWO HAVE BEEN PROVIDED ON THE ELECTRONIC PACKET DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS IT POSSIBLE WE CAN GET A PRINTOUT OF THAT THIRD LETTER OF OPPOSITION? SURE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BREWER AND THE STAFF? UM, OH, START WITH THE LADY FIRST AND THEN GO RIGHT AHEAD.
I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE.
I PUT AT YOUR DAAS, UH, AT YOUR LAST COMMISSION MEETING, WE HAD NOT INQUIRED WITH THE APPLICANT TO DO A, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
UH, AS YOU HAVE LED US TO, TO TASK US WITH THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS, WE REALIZE AT FIRST STAGE WE HAVE TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO DO THE WORKSHEET TO SEE IF IT TRIGGERS THE NEED FOR A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
NOW WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, UH, THE BLACK LETTERING IS, IS FROM THE APPLICANT AND AS OF TODAY, HE MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THE RED AND THE BLUE MARKUPS.
UM, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER ON STAFF, WE SEND IT OUT TO OUR THIRD PARTY REVIEWER.
AND THESE WERE HIS COMMENTS THAT, UM, THE WRONG CODES WERE UTILIZED THAT THE, UM, THE STUDY IN BLACK, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT ITE CODE BOOK FOR RESIDENTIAL, IT DOES HAVE THE CODE TWO 10, AND THIS IS MORE CONSIDERED A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED BE A TWO 15.
SO IT HAS A DIFFERENT UNIT COMPONENT.
ALSO, THIS STUDY IDENTIFIES A SPECIALTY RETAIL WHEN OUR REVIEWER LOOKED AT STRIP CENTER.
SO BY OUR REVIEWER OF THEIR SUBMITTED DOCUMENT, IT DOES SHOW THAT IT, IT DOES HIT THAT TRIP POINT, WHICH WOULD BE MORE THAN 100 VEHICLES PER DAY AND MORE THAN THAT 1000 VEHICLES PER DAY.
UH, TALKING TO, UH, MY CIVIL ENGINEER MD, HE ALSO REALLY JUST FLAGGED, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION BECAUSE ON HOW BUSY, UH, BELTLINE ROAD IS, WE DO FEEL THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT GETS INTO THAT CIVIL PART REVIEW, WE WILL BE ASKING FOR A TIA JUST TO KNOW WHAT'S NEEDED IS A DECELERATION LANE NEEDED, THERE'S IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT INTERSECTIONS NEEDED.
SO THIS IS ENOUGH FOR US TO REALIZE THAT WE WILL BE ASKING FOR ONE AT THE, UM, IF IT GETS APPROVED AND GOES TO THAT CIVIL ENGINEERING PHASE, WE WILL BE REQUESTING THAT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT.
SO THANK YOU FOR, UM, READING MY MIND.
SO ON THIS MAP, I'M GLAD YOU HAVE THIS PAGE UP.
UH, THESE TWO DRIVEWAY ACCESS POINTS, DID YOU INDICATE THAT THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF? THIS ONE, YEAH.
AND THIS ONE THAT WENT INTO ELLISON WAS FROM THE APPLICANT EVEN HAVING IT FACED DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL STREET COMING OUT.
BUT YES, WE DID RECOMMEND HAVING TWO POINTS OF ACCESS AND EGRESS INTO THIS COMMERCIAL TRACK.
I'M SPEC SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE TWO ON WEST BELTLINE ROAD.
IS THAT A DRIVEWAY ACCESS? WELL, THIS IS, THIS IS ONE AND THAT'S THE OTHER ONE.
THAT'S THE FIRST PROPOSAL ONE.
SO THE SECOND ONE WOULD'VE BEEN THE ONE THAT WE REQUESTED.
GET RID OF THIS CROSS OPENING AND YES.
CREATE A SEPARATE SINGLE ONE FOR THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OWNER BUSINESSES THAT WILL POTENTIALLY GO HERE, NOT COME THROUGH THIS RESIDENTIAL SECTION.
OKAY, SO THAT ONE WILL BE ELIMINATED.
IF IF YOU, IF YOU GO BACK, SO THIS IS HOW IT WAS, IT DID NOT HAVE ONE GOING HERE.
SO IT HAD THE SINGLE ONE COMING IN THAT WAS GONNA BE SHARED BY THE RESIDENTIAL USE AND THE COMMERCIAL USE.
NO EXIT COMING OFF OF EL ON ELLISON AND JUST THE ONE IN THE BACK.
WE ARE SAYING THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING A SEPARATE ENTRANCE FOR THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.
THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.
WE ARE REQUESTING, YOU'RE REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL YES.
WHAT IS THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO DRIVEWAYS? IT MET OUR REQUIREMENT AS FAR AS OUR PAVING MANUAL EXACT NUMBER, I DON'T KNOW, BUT HE HAD TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF OUR PAVING MANUAL.
AND YOU'RE SAYING OUR AS IN THE
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CITY OF DESOTO? YES.WE HAVE A PAVING MANUAL THAT HAS OUR NUMBERS.
THE BELMONT ROAD IS ON THE STATE SYSTEM.
THEY WOULD HAVE, IT'S AN OWN OWN SYSTEM.
THEY WOULD GET TO PERMITTED THROUGH THEM.
AND BUT WE WILL BE IDENTIFYING WHAT OUR LOCAL REGULATIONS ARE.
THEY MAY HAVE THEIR OWN REGULATIONS THAT WOULD'VE TO LOOK INTO ALSO.
UM, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN REGULATIONS AND ASIDE FROM THAT, SPECIFICALLY FROM A MULTIMODAL PEDESTRIAN PERSPECTIVE, I'M A, WELL, NOT A RUNNER ANYMORE, A WAGGER MM-HMM.
UM, SO I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED WHEN I SEE MULTIPLE DRIVEWAYS BECAUSE THAT MEANS I HAVE TO STOP AND REALLY LOOK OUT FOR VEHICLES ENTERING AND EXITING FROM THOSE DRIVEWAY POINTS.
UM, SO TRYING TO BALANCE ACCESS TO, UH, PROPERTY WHILE BALANCING SAFETY AS WELL FOR PEDESTRIANS AND RUNNERS AND BICYCLISTS OR WHOEVER.
UH, BUT MY CONCERN WAS THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TWO DRIVEWAYS, IF YOU CAN GET THAT INFORMATION.
AND THEN T DOT DOES HAVE AN ACCESS MANAGEMENT, UH, GUIDELINES.
AND I WAS GOING TO ASK IF YOU CONFIRM THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION ALIGNS WITH THEIR GUIDELINES? NO, WE HAVEN'T.
BUT WE COULD FILE, WE COULD FIND THAT OUT IF IT GOT OUT OF YOUR HOUSE TO GO TO THE PNZ, I MEAN TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND IF IT DOES NOT, WOULD YOU ALL BE REQUESTING A WAIVER TO SUPPORT YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR TWO, UH, DRIVEWAYS? WE'LL TRULY NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEIR REQUIREMENT IS TO SEE HOW DIFFERENT IT IS FROM WHAT UH, THEY'RE SHOWING.
IF IT'S SO EXTREME, WE PROBABLY COULDN'T SUPPORT IT.
IF YOU CAN GET THE DISTANCE BEFORE THE SEVEN O'CLOCK MEETING, DO YOU THINK THAT COULD HAPPEN? THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TWO DRIVEWAYS? I THINK THAT'S A VERY, I'LL HAVE TO ASK IMPORTANT PIECE OF INFORMATION I IN THERE BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THIS IS A TO SCALE DRAWING AS THE CONCEPT PLAN.
BUT I'LL, I, I'LL ASK YOU DURING THE BREAK, WE'LL, WE'LL FIND OUT.
UH, MR. BREWER, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE HISTORY.
JUST LIKE CHAIRMAN STONE NOTED.
ARE THE DEVIATIONS SIMILAR OVER THE YEARS? THE DEVIATIONS? IN MY READING OF THE CASES IN 2021, THE REQUEST WAS TO REZONE FROM GENERAL RETAIL.
GENERAL RETAIL TO A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.
UH, SF EIGHT SF EIGHT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT CATEGORY IS SAYING 8,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
ONE OF THE, THE DEVIATIONS THAT THEY WAS REQUESTING THEN WAS TO TAKE IT FROM 8,000 TO 4,000.
SAME THING WITH SOME VARIATIONS ON WIDTH.
SO IT WAS SF EIGHT IS THE CITY'S SMALLEST RESIDENTIALS DETACHED LOT AND THEY WERE GOING SMALLER THAN THAT LOT.
SO I CANNOT SAY THAT THE DEVIATIONS, I CAN'T SAY THE DEVIATIONS WEREN'T REALLY THE SAME BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT PRODUCT HERE.
THIS IS NOT THE PRODUCT THAT WAS BEING CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN 2021.
IT WAS SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED AT THAT POINT WITH A SMALLER LOT REQUEST.
THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS RELATIVE TO THE PARK, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I, I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE PARK TRUE LOCATION IS.
IT'S GONNA BE ACROSS THE STREET, UH, NEXT TO THE WALL, UH, WALMART.
CORRECT? THERE IS, THERE IS A PARK THERE.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE DEEMED A PARK OF THIS COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S A PARK THAT CAN BE ACCESSED BY THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE.
AND IS THAT THE PARK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? THE ONE THAT'S NEXT TO CHAPEL HILL? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I GOT THE RIGHT PARK IN MIND.
WITH THAT IN MIND, MY CON MY MAJOR CONCERN IS THE FACT THAT THE PEDESTRIANS ARE HAVING TO CROSS THAT VERY BUSY INTERSECTION.
AND IF YOU WATCH THE NEWS LAST WEEK WHERE WE NOTICED THE YOUNG MAN IN PLANO WHO WAS KILLED ON HIS BICYCLE BECAUSE IT WAS A BUSY STREET SIMILAR TO THIS.
AND THEN THERE WAS A NEWS WHERE THEY SHOWED PEOPLE CROSSING, UM, LEGALLY IN THE CROSSWALK AND PEOPLE WERE JUST NOT PAYING ANY ATTENTION.
SO HAVING THAT, THAT PARK CLOSE IS A GOOD THING, BUT THE SAFETY OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WOULD WANT TO GET ACROSS THE PARK IS KIND OF A MAJOR CONCERN.
SO IS THAT INTERSECTION NEAR BELTLINE CROSSING, IS IT CONTROLLED? IT'S TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE THERE.
BUT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A MAJOR
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THOROUGHFARE.EAST WEST, WHAT BELTLINE IS, UH, BELTLINE ROAD IS ONE OF ABOUT THREE TRUCK ROUTES.
THE OTHER TRUCK ROUTE IS THE FRONTAGE ROAD ON 35.
AND ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I BELIEVE IT'S SHOWN AS A, A POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, A SIX LANE THREE IN, IN BOTH DIRECTION.
WE ARE JUST PROVIDING YOU FACTS WHAT'S ON THE GROUND.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MR. BREWER AND THE STAFF HEARING SCENE? NONE.
ANY BUSINESS, ANY ITEM OF BUSINESS WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THAT WE NEED TO DURING THIS WORK SESSION? MS. MAZI, ANYTHING? NOT ON THE AGENDA.
WE NEED TO TACKLE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
I DON'T THINK I, UH, TOOK THE TIME TO ASK YOU OR TO HELP ME.
UH, CONGRATULATE, UH, MRS. UM, JORDAN, ONE OTHER JORDAN WILLIAMS, ONLY A PROMOTION.
SHE'S NOW A PLANNER, SO SHE'LL BE DOING, SHE'LL BE SEEING AND MAKING ALL THE PRESENTATIONS FROM NOW GOING FORWARD.
SO PLEASE, WE SHARE THE VERY BEST IN A NEW POSITION.
THERE IS NO REST FOR THE WEARY.
CONGRATULATIONS AND COMMISSION.
I WILL SAY WITH HER PROMOTION, THAT THAT DOES MEAN WE HAVE A VACANCY POWER PERMIT TECHNICIAN AND AS SOON AS WE HIRE ONE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO RELIEVE DR. MARKS OF HER GRACIOUS COOPERATION WITH US.
SO SHE'S HELPING US TREMENDOUSLY.
DR. MARKS IS A TRUE SERVANT OF THE PEOPLE.
UM, DO WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE THIS EVENING? GO RIGHT AHEAD, SIR.
MS. JORDAN WILLIAMS. I DO HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.
UM, WANNA REMIND YOU OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND UM, BOARD MEMBERS' BANQUET.
IT WILL BE HELD, UM, SEPTEMBER 21ST.
IT'S A THURSDAY NIGHT AT 6:30 PM AT THE BLUE BOND ROOMS. YES MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT REMINDER.
UH, SEEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS DURING THE WORK SESSION, WE'LL CALL THE WORK SESSION CLOSED.
UH, VOLUNTEER FOR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
ALRIGHT, UM, MR. BELL'S GOT US.
AND THEN, UM, WE'LL CALL THE WORK SESSION CLOSED AT 6:42 PM WE'LL RECONVENE AT 7:00 PM THANK YOU.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE TIME IS 7:00 PM PLEASE
[B. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
RISE AND JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COMMISSIONER WARNER BELT PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.[C. REGULAR SESSION - CALL TO ORDER]
EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.TODAY IS TUESDAY, AUGUST THE 22ND.
IT'S OFFICIALLY CALLED THE REGULAR SESSION OF THE CITY OF DESOTO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO A START AT 7:00 PM THE FIRST
[D. CONSENT AGENDA Any item may be withdrawn from the consent agenda and acted on separately. Approval of the Consent Agenda authorizes the approval of each item in accordance with Staff Recommendations.]
ITEM OF BUSINESS IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF ME OF MEETING MINUTES FROM THE PLANNING ZONING, REGULAR MEETING MAIL, REGULAR MEETING HELD ON JULY 25TH, 2023.AND I'M GOING TO PASS THE MICROPHONE TO VICE CHAIR PUGH FOR SOME COMMENTS ON THE MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR WORK SESSION.
UH, THE ONLY COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MODIFICATION THAT I WOULD MAKE ON THE MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH, JULY 25TH, 2023.
UNDER ITEM E ONE, UH, I WOULD, UH, SIMPLY REQUEST THAT BOTH THE DATES THAT ARE MENTIONED, UH, THE APPROVAL DATE AND ALSO THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE, BOTH REFLECT JUNE 27TH, 2023.
AND THEN ALSO DURING THE WORK WORK SESSION.
UH, I MADE MENTION OF THE FACT THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY TABLED, UH, A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MEETING MINUTES FROM JUNE 27TH, 2023.
UH, WE NEED TO GET THOSE MINUTES, UH, BACK ON THE AGENDA.
OF COURSE, IT WASN'T PUBLISHED FOR TONIGHT, SO WE CAN'T CONSIDER 'EM TONIGHT.
UH, BUT I WOULD, UH, ASK THAT WE PUT THEM ON THE SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2023, UH, AGENDA SO WE CAN OFFICIALLY APPROVE, UH, THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 27TH, 2023.
AND SINCE WE'RE MENTIONING THOSE PARTICULAR MINUTES, UH, UNDER, UH, ITEM E TWO OF THOSE PARTICULAR MINUTES, I REQUEST THAT AS WE MODIFY THEM AND GET THEM PREPARED FOR SEPTEMBER 12TH, UH, THAT THEY REFLECT A VOTE, UH, THAT WAS CONDUCTED WITH RESPECT TO N'S FORM ON THAT PARTICULAR EVENING.
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UM, THERE WAS A MOTION MADE, I BELIEVE IT WAS UNANIMOUS, UH, THAT, UH, AS PRESENTLY PRESENTED, UH, THE COMMISSION DENIED OR MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL OF THAT PARTICULAR EVENING.AND SO THOSE ARE MY SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MODIFICATION FOR THE MINUTES THIS EVENING.
DULY NOTED AND MUCH APPRECIATED, APPRECIATED.
MR. PUGH, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, ADDITIONS, OR DELETIONS TO THE MEETING? MINUTES IS WRITTEN AND PRESENTED, SEEN AND HEARING NONE I'D LIKE TO BRING A MOTION TO THE FLOOR FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR JULY 25TH MEETING WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS PREVIOUSLY NOTED BY COMMISSIONER PUGH.
SECOND TURN ON MICROPHONES PLEASE.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND STATE.
THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
AND, AND MR. CHAIR, SIR, JUST FOR THE RECORD.
MOTION WAS MADE BY THE CHAIR AND ACTUALLY SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER RAVENELL.
THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA OR OUR CONSENT AGENDA, RATHER CONSIDER APPROVAL OF NEVA VITA EDITION LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST WINTER GREEN ROAD, AND WEST OF HAMPTON ROAD, THE WEST SIDE OF WESTMORELAND ROAD AND ADDRESSED AS 1 35 WEST WINTER GREEN ROAD.
THE PROPERTY IS 13.230 ACRES OF LAND AND CONSISTS OF TWO LOTS.
THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE CARLOS Y SURVEY, ABSTRACT NUMBER 1 5 5 7.
CITY OF DESOTO, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS.
THE APPLICANT IS BURN SURVEYING COMPANY AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS NU AVITA, LIFE NEW LIFE ASSEMBLY.
MAY WE HAVE OUR STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.
THIS IS A TRACT OF LAND THAT IS BEING DIVIDED INTO TWO LOTS AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE MINOR PLAT.
IT MEETS THE SUBDIVISION IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, MS. RAZZI, THIS IS AN EXISTING LAND WITH NO REQUESTED ZONING, EXISTING PARCEL WITH NO REQUESTED ZONING CHANGES AND THERE'S JUST SIMPLY SPLITTING THE PARCEL INTO TWO DIFFERENT LOTS.
AND HAS THE APPLICANT GIVEN YOU ANY INDICATION OF FUTURE ZONING CHANGE OR LAND USE? NOT AT THIS TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NOTHING ON FP DASH 1 24.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS? WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ONE.
OH, KIND OF WISH I HAD A GAVELS.
I COULD DO THE OLD GAVEL THING.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION? DO ANYBODY? SOMEBODY.
UM, DO WE, WE DON'T ACTUALLY NEED TO VOTE TO JUST SPLIT A PARCEL.
IT'S ADMINISTERIAL, BUT HERE WE GO.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MOTION THAT WE, UM, APPROVE, UH, AGENDA ITEM.
LET SEE, WHAT IS THIS HERE? AGENDA ITEM F.
UH, AGENDA ITEM TWO FP DASH 1 24.
ONE DASH 23 AS WRITTEN AND PRESENTED.
IT'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MR. STONE, SECONDED BY MR. PUGH.
ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
THE MEASURE HAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING.
[1. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider a zoning change from Single Family-10 to Planned Development with base zoning district of SF-8 with deviations. The property consists of approximately 6.165 acres of land legally described as Tract 20, in John Lewis Survey, Abstract 774 and addressed as 1119 UHL Road. The applicant is Roc Design Engineering and the owners are Ronnell Johnson and Jonathan Ortega. THIS PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE RESCHEDULED AND RE-ADVERTISED TO BE CONDUCTED BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 12, 2023.]
THE FIRST CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A ZONING CHANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY 10 TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH THE BASE ZONING OF SF EIGHT WITH DEVIATIONS.THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF 6.165 ACRES OF LAND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS TRACK 20 IN JOHN LEWIS SURVEY ABSTRACT 7 7 4 AND ADDRESSED AS 1119 OELL ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS ROCK DESIGN ENGINEERING AND THE OWNERS ARE RONELLE JOHNSON AND JONATHAN ORTEGA.
MR. BREWER, GO RIGHT AHEAD IF YOU WOULD PLEASE.
CHAIRMAN STONE AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
THIS ONE YOU SEE A NOTE ON THE AGENDA THAT THIS PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE RESCHEDULED AND READVERTISED AND TO BE CONDUCTED AT YOUR PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IN SEPTEMBER THE 12TH.
WE HAD A SITUATION THAT OCCURRED THAT OUR STAMP MAILING MACHINE WAS INOPERABLE.
OUR CURRENT PROCESS INVOLVES PLANNING STAFF TAKING THE STACKED OF PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES TO THIS MAIL ROOM AND THEY SIT THERE TILL ANOTHER DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEE WILL TAKE THE LETTERS AND SEND THEM THROUGH THE, UH, STAMP
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MACHINE.UH, WITH THAT MACHINE BEING INOPERABLE, THOSE LETTERS WERE NOT STAMPED AND THEY WERE NOT DELIVERED TO OUR POST OFFICE.
SO THUS, FOR THIS PARTICULAR PUBLIC HEARING, WE DID NOT MEET OUR STATE AND LOCAL REGULATIONS OF SENDING NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OR STAFF.
CITY COUNCIL'S REQUEST FOR US TO SEND COURTESY NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS BETWEEN 200 AND 400 FEET.
SO WE WILL HAVE TO, UH, IZE THIS POSITION.
WE DID PLACE A NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER, HOWEVER, UH, OUR STATE AND LOCAL MANDATE IS THAT WE PUT A NOTICE IN BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE COMPLY WITH COUNCIL'S REQUEST THAT WE PRE ADVERTISE BOTH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S, PUBLIC HEARING AND THE COUNCIL'S PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THAT FIRST NOTIFICATION.
SO SINCE IT DID GET PUBLICIZED IN THE FOCUS DAILY NEWS, IN CASE A, UH, RESIDENT OR SOMEBODY OF INTEREST WANTED TO SPEAK ON THAT CASE, WE STILL NEEDED TO PUT ON THE AGENDA IN ORDER TO FORMALLY TELL YOU THAT NO ACTION IS TO BE DONE ON THIS CASE TONIGHT.
IT WILL NEED TO BE, IT WILL BE RESCHEDULED AND READVERTISED FOR YOUR FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.
SO, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOUR OFFICE HAS MET THE CITY AND LOCAL REQUIREMENTS AS PER THE LETTER OF THE LAW.
BUT THE CITY OF DESOTO REQUIRES US TO GO A STEP FURTHER TO KEEP OUR RESIDENTS INFORMED AND WE ARE NOT QUITE, WE DIDN'T QUITE MEET THAT WINDOW DUE TO NO FAULT OF YOUR OFFICE.
NO, WE DID NOT MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR SENDING WRITTEN NOTIFICATIONS OUT BY BOTH STATE AND OUR LOCAL REGULATIONS.
WE FULFILLED THE REQUIREMENTS AS DESIRED BY A COUNCIL TO PUT A NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER.
SO IT'S THAT WRITTEN NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT WE DID NOT MEET BECAUSE THOSE PARTICULAR ENVELOPES WHICH WERE PREPARED AND PLACED IN THE RED MAIL ROOM DID NOT GET OUT.
UH, CORRECTIVE ACTION THAT I'VE IDENTIFIED THAT I'VE IMPLEMENTED WITH MY STAFF.
GOING FORWARD, MY STAFF WILL NOT ONLY PREPARE THE LETTERS, PUT 'EM IN THE ENVELOPES, BUT THEY WILL DO THE RUNNING THROUGH THE MACHINE THEMSELVES IF THAT MACHINE IS INOPERABLE.
THEY WOULD ALSO, WHILE THEY'RE AT THE POST OFFICE, UM, STAND THERE TO BE SURE THEY GET STAMPED AND DELIVERED.
SO ALL NOTICES GOING FORWARD WILL BE HAND TAKEN BY MY STAFF TO THE POST OFFICE TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE AT LEAST DROPPED OFF AT THE POST OFFICE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE MR. BREWER.
UM, POINT OF ORDER FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.
DO WE NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NOT HAVE COMMENT? HE'S GIVING THE, THE, THE, THE NOD AND THE NEGATIVE.
WE CAN'T HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING 'CAUSE IT WASN'T ADVERTISED.
SO REALLY THIS ISN'T REALLY AN AGENDA ITEM.
IT REALLY IS JUST KIND OF TABLED UNTIL IT'S ADVERTISED CORRECTLY.
SO THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY ACTION THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE.
SO AS PER YOUR RECOMMENDATION RESCHEDULED FOR THE SECOND TUESDAY OF SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER THE 12TH, WHICH IS YOUR FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.
ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY STAFF? THANK YOU MR. BREWER.
[2. Continue the Public Hearing (from the June 27, 2023 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting) and consider making a recommendation to the City Council on an applicant's request to rezone a 10.29-acre tract of land legally described as being Lots 1A, 1B, 2 and 3 in the Four Acres Addition and generally located at the southwest corner of W. Belt Line Road and S. Elerson Road (100 S. Elerson Rd., 1112 W. Belt Line Road, 1116 W. Belt Line Road) from existing General Retail (GR) to Planned Development (PD) with base zonings of General Retail (GR) and Single-Family Attached (SFA) Residential with deviations in order to allow Single Family Attached Residential (Townhomes) and Retail development. The applicant is Daake Law, LLC and the property owner is DeSoto MBM2, LLC. (Case No. Z-1494-23)]
FINAL PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING.UH, CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM THE JUNE 27TH, 2023 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AND CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO REZONE 10.29 ACRE TRACT OF LAND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING LOTS ONE A, ONE B TWO, AND THREE IN THE FOUR ACRES EDITION.
AND GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST BELTLINE ROAD AND SOUTH ELLERSON ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS 100 SOUTH ELLERSON ROAD.
1116 WEST BELTLINE ROAD FROM EXISTING GENERAL RETAIL TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH BASE ZONINGS OF GENERAL RETAIL WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS WRITTEN AND PRESENTED.
CASE NUMBER IS Z DASH 14 9 4 DASH 23.
AND MAY WE HAVE YOUR STAFF REPORT? YES.
CHAIRMAN STONE AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
UM, AS YOU RECALL, THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS CONDUCTED BEFORE YOU ON JUNE THE 27TH.
UM, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, UH, PARTICULARLY FOR THE PUBLIC.
UH, ON THE SCREEN WE'LL SEE A, UH, DALLAS CENTRAL PREVIOUS DISTRICT SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THESE ARE THE THREE TRACKS OF LANDS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED.
THERE'S A FOURTH TRACK, WHICH IS NOT A PART OF THIS PROPERTY.
IT IS A A, A TRACK THAT HAS A RESIDENTIAL HOME, BUT IT'D BE THESE FIRST THREE TRACKS, UH, WEST OF ELLISON, SOUTH OF BELTLINE ROAD.
UH, WE HAVE MAPS ON THE SCREEN THAT HELPS GIVE YOU A BETTER VISUAL OF WHERE THESE THREE TRACKS OF LAND.
AGAIN, IT'S ALL THREE OF THESE, UM, HIGHLIGHTED AREAS ON BOTH MAPS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT COMPARED TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INFORMATION THAT STAFF GAVE YOU DURING YOUR JUNE 27TH.
I'M BRINGING YOU A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT HISTORY BECAUSE I DO KNOW WE HAVE SOME COMMISSIONERS THAT WERE NOT A PART OF YOUR COMMISSION
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BACK IN 2021.SO ON MARCH 9TH, 2021, AN APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED TO STAFF REQUESTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY.
UH, 10.29 ACRES AT THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER BELT LINE IN ELLISON FROM GENERAL RETAIL TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH BASE ZONING, SINGLE FAMILY EIGHT WITH DEVIATIONS.
AS I MENTIONED IN YOUR WORKSHOP, A SINGLE FAMILY EIGHT IS A 8,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND THE DEVIATIONS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME WAS REQUESTED TO GO TO A SMALLER LOT SIZE INSTEAD OF EIGHT 8,000 TO UH, 4,000.
THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THAT PROPOSED SITE PLAN IDENTIFIED 64 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, WHICH IS 6.22 LOTS PER ACRE.
ON APRIL THE 13TH, 2021, A PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONDUCTED BEFORE YOUR COMMISSION.
FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING, A MOTION PREVAILED BY A VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
IN MY STAFF'S RESEARCH, WE DID NOT SEE THAT AN APPEAL WAS MADE BY THE APPLICANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO THAT PARTICULAR APPLICATION STOPPED AT THAT POINT.
ON JUNE THE 22ND, 2021, A NEW APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED TO STAFF THAT REQUESTED THE SAME REZONING REQUEST FROM GENERAL RETAIL TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE FAMILY EIGHT.
THAT SITE PLAN DECREASED THE NUMBER OF LOTS DOWN TO 51 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, WHICH WAS 4.49 LOTS PER ACRE.
ON AUGUST THE 10TH OF 2021, A PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONDUCTED BEFORE YOUR COMMISSION FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
A MOTION WAS MADE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO CHANGE, BUT THE MOTION FAILED BY A VOTE OF TWO TO THREE.
BUT THAT PARTICULAR CASE, THE APPLICANT DID SUBMIT APPEAL TO STAFF IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST TO PROCEED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
ON SEPTEMBER THE SEVENTH, 2021, A PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONDUCTED BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING, A MOTION WAS MADE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, BUT THE MOTION FAILED BY A VOTE OF THREE TO FOUR.
THE APPLICANT IS NOW SEEKING TO REZONE THE SAME 10.29 TRACK OF LAND.
THE ZONING CHANGE REQUESTED FROM EXISTING GENERAL RETAIL TO A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH BASED ZONINGS OF BOTH GR AND SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED IN ORDER TO ALLOW TOWN HOMES AND A RETAIL DEVELOPMENT TO BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THAT 10.29 ACRE TRACK OF LAND, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES TO ESTABLISH 62 NEW TOWN HOMES AND TWO RETAIL COMMERCIAL LOTS.
THE APPLICANT IS VOLUNTEERING TO REMOVE CERTAIN RETAIL COMMERCIAL USAGES FROM THIS PD THAT MAY NOT BE CONDUCIVE FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION ON YOUR DAES.
TONIGHT I PLACED A COPY OF THE CITY ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH INCLUDED THE SCHEDULE OF USAGES, WHICH IS AN EXCEL CHART THAT SHOWS ALL USAGES BY CATEGORIES I'VE HIGHLIGHTED TO YOU IN THAT CHART.
IN YELLOW, THE COMPLETE LISTING OF GENERAL RETAIL USAGES.
I'VE ALSO HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE THE LIST OF THOSE DEVIATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO VOLUNTARILY REMOVE TO THOSE ITEMS THAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU BECAUSE AT YOUR MEETING IN ON JUNE 27TH, STAFF WAS REQUESTED TO WHAT ARE THE OTHER USAGES THAT ARE LEFT? AND THIS, UH, SHOWS TO YOU WHAT ARE THOSE OTHER USAGES THAT ARE THERE.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO OFFERING SOME VOLUNTARY ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES THAT THE TOWN HOME DEVELOPERS HAVE TO SELECT FROM TO ENHANCE THE FRONT FACADE OF THE PROPOSED TOWN HOMES.
THIS CHART SHOWS THE DEVIATION REQUESTS.
COLUMN NUMBER TWO COMES FROM THE CITY ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED SECTION.
IT SHOWS THE AREA LOT REQUIREMENT TO BE 3000 LOT DEATH, 1,100 FRONT YARD TO BE 25 FEET SIDE YARD, 25 FEET.
THIS ALL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS IN THE CITY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A MINIMUM 15 FOOT ALLEYS.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED SECTION, IT DOES HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR USABLE OPEN SPACE.
THAT SECTION OF THE ZONING CODE THEN FORWARDS YOU TO THIS MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT.
AND THAT DISTRICT DOES DEFINE USABLE SPACE AS A A, A MATHEMATICAL FORMULA OF 600 SQUARE FEET FOR EACH BEDROOM.
UH, ON MY CHART HERE, I'VE GIVEN YOU THE SQUARE FOOTAGES FOR WHAT A TWO AND A THREE BEDROOM APARTMENT, UH, TOWN HOME WOULD BE AND IN THIS CASE, THE TWO BEDROOM TOWN HOME WOULD BE 900 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS 600 PLUS 300, AND HE HAS A TOTAL OF 26 PROPOSING 26 OF THOSE.
AND FOR THE THREE BEDROOMS, IT'D BE 600 PLUS 300 PLUS 300, WHICH IS SIX 1200 SQUARE FEET FOR THREE BEDROOMS. SO THE MATH IS DONE BY 900 TIMES 26 AND 1200 TIMES 36 THAT THUS ESTABLISH A TOTAL AMOUNT OF USABLE OPEN SPACE FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT SITE TO BE 66,600 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS 1.53 ACRES.
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THREE, YOU SEE THE DEVIATION REQUEST THAT THE APPLICANT IS MADE.HE'S AGAIN TO THE AREA FROM 3000 TO 2300 SQUARE FEET.
LOT DEPTH FROM 100 TO 95 FEET.
FRONT YARD WIDTH FROM, UH, DEPTH FROM 25 FEET TO 20 FEET SIDE YARD FROM 25 FEET TO 10 FEET.
UH, ALLEY IS REQUESTING DEVIATION FROM ALL ALLEY REQUIREMENTS.
UH, AT THE BOTTOM WE IDENTIFIED THAT AT THE, AT THAT TIME WHEN WE REVIEWED THE SITE PLAN, WE COULD NOT, UM, QUANTIFIABLY, UH, ENSURE FOR THE COMMISSION THAT IN HIS A IN HIS CHART THAT HE'S IDENTIFYING THAT HE'S COMPLYING WITH THE CITY'S MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IN THIS CASE 66,600.
BUT WE COULD NOT JUSTIFY THAT.
BUT WE ARE SHOWING YOU LATER A COPY OF THAT SITE PLAN FOR YOUR VISUAL.
UH, I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU ASK THE APPLICANTS TO MORE, TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT HIS NUMBERS TO ENSURE ON HIS POSITION THAT THEY'RE MEETING.
I HAVE ALSO INCLUDED WITH THIS REPORT, JUST A NOTE TO IDENTIFY THAT THE CITY OF DESOTA DOES HAVE A SIX ACRE PUBLIC PARK WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THIS PD, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED AS NORTH ELLISON ROAD PARK.
IT IS NO LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST BELTLINE, UH, BEHIND, UM, THE WALMART, UH, STORE.
AND THE LAST ITEM SHOWS YOU THE DIFFERENCES OF WHAT THE REGULATIONS REQUIRE VERSUS WHAT IS DEVIATION REQUESTS ARE.
R THIS IS A REPEAT FROM WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU DURING YOUR JUNE 27TH PUBLIC HEARING.
THESE ARE THE LIST OF OF RETAIL COMMERCIAL USAGES THAT THE APPLICANT IS, UH, REQUESTING YOUR SUPPORT TO ESTABLISH IN THE PD AS BEING PROHIBITED.
AND THE LIST IS WHAT YOU SEE THERE.
I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF 'EM, BUT JUST THE FIRST FEW BARNS, LIGHT SPORTS COURTS, UH, ANTENNA SUPPORT STRUCTURE, COMMUNICATIONS OPERATIONS, FIRE, POLICE, MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS, MICROWAVE, REFLECTOR, ANTENNA, SEWER, PUMPING STATION, TELEPHONE BUSINESS CENTER.
AND AGAIN, THESE HAVE BEEN MARKED ON YOUR, UM, SCHEDULED USE CHART.
TELEPHONE PUBLIC STATION, ELEVATED WATER TANK DAY, CAMP FOR CHILDREN, PLAYGROUND OR STADIUM WETTED, WEDDING BANQUET PARTY FACILITY, CONTINUING CARE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY, PATERNAL ORGANIZATION, LARGE UNION HALL OR CIVIC CENTER SCHOOL DRIVING DEFENSIVE AUTO PARTS AND ACCESSORY SALES APPLIANCE, RETAIL BUILDING MATERIALS, HARDWARE OR HOME IMPROVEMENT CENTER, CELLULAR PHONE PAGER, SALES, CLEANING STORE LAUNDRY PICKUPS AND SERVICE.
UH, CONSIGNMENT STORE, DISCOUNT STORE, D DONUT, AND A FUNERAL OR A FUNERAL HOME IN MONTE AREA.
THIS IS THE LIST THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU AT YOUR JUNE 27TH THAT IDENTIFIES THE APPLICANT'S VOLUNTARY, UH, IMPLEMENTATION OF ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT STAFF HAS ADVISED YOU IN THE PAST THERE WAS A HOUSE BILL PASSED ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, MAYBE A LITTLE LONGER, THAT ESTABLISHES CITIES CAN NO LONGER, UM, MANDATE REQUIREMENTS OF BUILDING MATERIAL.
UH, THAT HOUSE BILL IDENTIFIED THAT WHATEVER THE BUILDING CODES ESTABLISHES THAT FOR APPROVED MATERIALS, THOSE WOULD BE THE MATERIALS THAT THAT CITY WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER.
UH, THE CITY OF DESOTO CURRENTLY HAS ADOPTED THE 2018 BUILDING CODES, SO WHATEVER THAT MATERIAL WOULD BE, WHAT WOULD BE NORMALLY REQUIRED.
BUT THE APPLICANT IS VOLUNTEERING, VOLUNTEERING SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT ARE LISTED HERE, AND, AND AGAIN, SPECIFICALLY ARTICULATING WHAT A FACADE ARTICULATION IS, I WOULD REQUEST YOU TO ASK THE APPLICANT, UH, DURING HIS APPEARANCE PRESENTED.
NOW IS A SITE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU IN JUNE.
UH, I WOULD HIGHLIGHT SOME AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED ON THE NEXT DRAWING.
AT THE TIME OF THAT PRESENTATION, IT SHOWED ONE ENTRANCE COMING OFF OF WEST BELTLINE, WHERE I'VE HIGHLIGHTED WITH MY GREEN MARKER.
IT WAS TO BE A SHARED SINGLE ENTRANCE THAT WAS GOING TO ALLOW BOTH PEDESTRIANS, RESIDENTS COMING INTO THE TOWN HOME COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS ACCESS THROUGH THE ACCESS DRIVEWAY OPENING INTO THE COMMERCIAL STRIP.
AND THAT WAS GONNA BE THE ONLY IN AND OUT, UM, AFTER OUR PUBLIC HEARING STAFF HAD MORE TIME TO DI DIGEST IT AND, AND TALKING AMONGST OURSELVES, AND WE FELT THAT THIS SHARED ENTRANCE GOING INTO THIS SHARED DRIVEWAY WOULD BE A CONGESTION ISSUE FOR IF, IF CARS WERE STACKING HERE, TRYING TO GET OUT FOR A RIGHT TURN ON BELTLINE, THAT IT WOULD CAUSE CONGESTIONS FOR COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC TRYING TO GET OUT OF THAT STRETCH.
ALSO, TRAFFIC COMING EASTBOUND ON WEST BELT LINE, ACCESSING INTO THE SINGLE X ENTRANCE.
IF THEY WERE TRYING TO GET TO THE COMMERCIAL STRIP AND, AND STACKING WAS THERE, IT WOULD COM COMPLETE, UH, CREATE A BACKING ONTO THIS, UH, MAJOR ARTERIAL STREET.
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THAT IS ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT, UH, STAFF, UH, IMPLEMENTED.AND WE'LL SEE IT ON THE NEXT DRAWING.
THE DRAWING THEN STILL SHOWS THE PROJECTED, UH, PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND WHAT LANDSCAPE OPEN SPACE THAT EXISTS.
BUT THE NEXT DRAWING, WHEN WE GET TO IT, WE'LL SHOW MORE DETAILS OF THAT CHANGE, AND I'LL GO INTO THAT DETAIL THEN.
SO ON JUNE 27TH, 2023, A PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONDUCTED BEFORE YOUR COMMISSION IN ORDER TO CONSIDER THE APPLICANT'S, UH, NEW APPLICATION SUBMITTAL.
UH, DURING THAT PUBLIC HEARING, THE COMMISSION IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR THE APPLICANT TO MEET WITH STAFF IN ORDER TO ADDRESS COMMISSION'S CONCERNS WITH THE PROJECTS IMPACTED TRAFFIC, THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE BEING PROPOSED, ROADWAY WIDTHS, WHICH AT THAT TIME WAS ACTUALLY SHOWING BOTH 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY AND 40 FOOT RIGHT OF WAYS WITHIN THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL PART OF THIS COMPONENT AND THE NEED FOR A WALKING TRAIL WITHIN THE MIDDLE OPEN SPACE AREA, OR THE NEED, THE, THE NEED FOR MORE, UH, WALKABLE AREAS FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA.
A MOTION WAS MADE TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS CASE TO THE COMMISSION'S NEXT MEETING, WHICH WAS THAT THE TIME WAS GONNA BE JULY THE 27TH, AND THAT MOTION PREVAILED BY UNANIMOUS SEVEN TO ZERO VOTE.
DURING THE COMMISSION'S MEETING ON JULY 27TH, STAFF INFORMED THE COMMISSION THAT THE APPLICANT HAD APPROACHED STAFF AND REQUESTED THAT PUBLIC HEARING TO BE CONTINUED TO THE COMMISSION'S NEXT MEETING IN AUGUST, AND AGAIN, AS YOU, YOU RE REMEMBER, DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, YOU ONLY HAVE MEETINGS ONCE A MONTH INSTEAD OF TWICE A MONTH.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU ALMOST HAD A FULL MONTH ELAPSED FROM JULY THE 27TH THROUGH AUGUST THE 22ND.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TONIGHT.
BUT AT THAT TIME, THE COMMISSION COMPLIED WITH THAT REQUEST, AND A MOTION WAS PREVAILED TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT YOUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH AT THAT TIME WAS GONNA BE AUGUST 22ND, 2023.
I NOW PRESENT YOU THE NEW SITE PLAN, AND I WILL HIGHLIGHT WITH MY, UH, MY MARK OF THE CHANGES THAT STAFF HAS, UH, REQUESTED OF THE APPLICANT THEY HAVE COMPLIED WITH.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S UP TO YOUR CONSIDERATION.
INSTEAD OF HAVING THE, UH, SINGLE INTEREST COMING INTO THE TOWN CENTER THAT WAS GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC ACCESS OVER TO THE COMMERCIAL, UH, WE RE REQUESTED THE APPLICANT TO SHOW A SEPARATE ENTRANCE OFF OF BELTLINE.
UH, DURING THE PRESENTATION OF, OF, OF THIS SITE PLAN DURING THE WORKSHOP, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER BROOKS REQUESTED INFORMATION ON THE DISTANCE I DID GET WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, DURING THE BREAK, AND HE PROVIDED ME WITH A COPY OF THE SITE PLAN THAT HE HAD SENT STAFF.
AND IT MAY BE HARD TO READ, BUT THE DISTANCE FROM, UH, THE EAST EDGE OF THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE TO THE WEST EDGE OF THE NEW ENTRANCE IS A HUNDRED, 163 FEET.
THE DRIVEWAY WIDTH BEING PROPOSED IS 30 FEET, AND THE DISTANCE FROM THE EAST SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY TO THE ELLISON RIGHT OF WAY, UH, IS 234.
FOR THE SIDE STREET, THE DISTANCE FROM THE BELTLINE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE DRIVEWAY ACCESS ON THIS ELLISON SIDE IS 150 FEET.
THE DRIVEWAY WIDTH ITSELF IS 25 FEET, AND THE DISTANCE FROM THIS COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAY TO THE RESIDENTIAL ENTRANCE SOUTH OF THIS POINT WOULD BE 270 FEET.
SO WE HAVE, UH, THE APPLICANT HELPED US WITH, UH, GETTING THAT INFORMATION.
THIS SITE PLAN, ALL SHOW SHOWS WHERE THE APPLICANT, UH, HEARD WHAT THE COMMISSION SPOKE ABOUT, ABOUT THE NEED OF PROVIDING AMENITIES WITHIN THE, UH, SUBDIVISION SITE, UH, TOWN HOME SITE.
AND AS YOU SEE, UH, WHERE MY MARKET IS, THEY PROVIDED A SIDEWALK THAT CONNECTS THE, THE LOWEST POINT OF THE TOWN HOME IN THE SOUTHWEST MOST CORNER, A SIDEWALK FROM THERE GOING THROUGH THESE TWO TOWN HOMES TO, UH, GET TO THIS, UH, PUBLIC STREET THAT'S GONNA BE THERE.
DURING THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION.
AS YOU SAID, HE'LL GO MORE INTO DISCUSSION OF HIS OPEN SPACE, AND BECAUSE HIS CHART IDENTIFIES THAT HE FEELS THAT HE HAS MET THAT REQUIREMENT, AND HE'LL GO INTO THAT DISCUSSION DURING THAT POINT.
IT IS DURING THIS SUBMITTAL, SINCE A PUBLIC HEARING IS WHERE WE GOT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF TWO BEDROOMS AND THE NUMBER OF THREE BEDROOMS THAT ALLOWED US TO DO THE MATH FACTORS, MULTIPLICATION FACTORS TO TAKE THE TWO BEDROOMS TIMES, UH, 903 BEDROOMS TIMES 1200 TO COME UP WITH THAT 16,600 FIGURE.
THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S, UH, UH, OPEN SPACE, UH, PLAN.
AND AS AGAIN, STAFF'S POSITION IS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE INTERPRETING, UM, AND AGAIN, THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS A DOCUMENT FOR INTERPRETATION.
THERE CAN BE DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION BY READER, BUT THE
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STAFF IS SAYING THAT WE ARE SEEING THAT WE'RE A USABLE SPACE.UH, BUT THE APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL OF HOW HE FEELS.
THE ALL OF THIS GREEN AREA ADDED TOGETHER EQUATES TO MEETING THAT 1660 6,600 SQUARE FOOT THRESHOLD I'VE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE.
UM, JUST SOME INFORMATION FROM THE CITY'S, UM, 2015 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, TO HELP SUPPORT STAFF'S POSITION THAT THIS, UM, PROPOSED PROJECT ACTUALLY MEETS ONE OF THE GOALS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED IN THAT 2015 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND IN THE LAND USE SECTION, IT READS THAT THE LAND USE GOAL IS TO ACHIEVE A BALANCE OF LAND USAGES THAT WILL PROVIDE AND PROTECT THE DESIRED QUALITY OF LIFE AND RECOGNIZE THE NATURAL FEATURES THAT MAKE DESOTO A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, AND VISIT.
THE FIRST OBJECTIVE THAT I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THERE IS OBJECTIVE ONE, PROVIDE A MIX OF LAND USES IN APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS THAT WILL ATTRACT BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND BUSINESS USAGES.
SO STAFF IS IDENTIFYING AND IS OUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT THIS PROJECT MEETS THAT GOAL REQUIREMENT.
I'VE ALSO MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, WE DIDN'T DISCUSS THIS DURING YOUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THE CITY DOES HAVE A PUBLIC PARK, UH, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BELTLINE, RIGHT BEHIND WALMART, AND IT IS CALLED A NORTH ELLISON PARK.
AND THIS MAP IS TRYING TO ILLUSTRATE THE CLOSE WALKING PROXIMITY FROM THE YELLOW AREA, WHICH IS THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT SITE TO THE PARK.
THE NEXT SLIDE GIVES YOU INFORMATION ABOUT THE PARK ITSELF.
UH, WHAT FEATURES, AMENITIES ARE THERE? THIS, AGAIN, THIS IS A SIX ACRE TRACK OF LAND.
IT HAS A PLAYGROUND AREA, RESTROOM AREA, PICNIC TABLES, BENCHES, AND IT'S SHOWN, UH, AND IT'S SHOWN ON THE, UH, SIDE VIEW.
IT DOES HAVE A WALKING TRAIL AROUND IT.
NEXT WE HAVE A NOTIFICATION, UH, MAP.
UM, THE AREA IN BLACK IS THE THREE TRACKS OF LAND THAT ARE REQUESTED TO BE REZONED.
THE AREA IN BLUE ARE THE 200 FOOT RADIUS GOING AROUND THE COMPLETE PROPERTY.
THE AREA IN PURPLE IS THE COURTESY NOTIFICATION FOR PROPERTY OWNERS BETWEEN 200 AND 400 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THE MAP DOES SHOW THAT THE CITY STAFF DID RECEIVE, UH, THREE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION, AND OUR PLANNER, MS. WILLIAMS, DID TRY TO GO BACK AND FIND, DID YOU FIND THE THIRD NOTICE? OKAY, SHE COULDN'T FIND THE THIRD NOTICE, BUT AT ONE TIME WE HAD THREE NOTICES.
BUT WHAT THIS ALSO SHOWS IS THAT HAVING THESE THREE NOTICES DOES NOT TRIGGER THE REQUIREMENT FOR A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE.
UH, SHOULD THE CASE GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THE SUPER MAJORITY VOTE TRIGGER WOULD BE 20% OF PROPERTY OWNERS WHO OWN PROPERTY WITHIN THE BLUE AREA.
IF THAT THRESHOLD HAD BEEN MET, THEN WHEN THIS CASE, IF IT WENT TO CITY COUNCIL, THEN IT WOULD REQUIRE THE COUNCIL TO HAVE TO DO A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE PRESENT.
AND THEN AGAIN, THAT WAS THE TEXT AMENDMENT THAT THE COUNCIL CHANGED FROM SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF THE ENTIRE COUNCIL TO SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT.
AGAIN, THE ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY IS GR GENERAL RETAIL.
UH, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN, UH, CITY COUNCIL PLACE FIVE COUNCILWOMAN DI DR.
MARKS STAFF DOES SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO ESTABLISH A TOWN HOME AND RETAIL PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
THE TOWN HOMES WILL GIVE ASPIRING HOMEOWNERS AN OPTION TO OWN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE LARGER SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL HOMES WITHIN THIS GENERAL AREA WITH A HIGH QUALITY DESIGN, HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES STATED EARLIER, IT IS STAFF'S OPINION THAT THIS WILL BE A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT WILL BRING A NEW QUALITY HOUSING TYPE THAT IS NOT GENERALLY AVAILABLE, UH, TO BENEFIT THE CITY OF DESOTO.
THIS PLANT DEVELOPMENT WILL BE, BE A DIFFERENT PRODUCT IN COMPARISON TO THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING IN THIS GENERAL AREA.
THE APPLICANT IS MEETING A CITY GOAL OF PROVIDING MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT USE ALONG BELTLINE ROAD, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH A RECENT COMMERCIAL NODE STUDY THAT WAS COMMISSIONED BY A CITY COUNCIL.
ONE OF THE FINDINGS OF THAT STUDY IS THAT CREATING DEVELOPMENTS WITH BOTH RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL USAGES TO COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER IS MARKET SUPPORTED TO BRING NEW OPPORTUNITIES TO THE CITY OF DESOTO, ESPECIALLY ALONG BELTLINE ROAD STAFF.
ALSO COMMENDS THE APPLICANT'S DESIRE TO REMOVE CERTAIN RETAIL COMMERCIAL USES.
USAGES THAT THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT MAY NOT BE CONDUCIVE FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR
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THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO REZONE THE 10.29 ACRE TRACK OF LAND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING LOST.ONE A, ONE B TWO, AND THREE IN THE FOUR ACRES EDITION.
AND GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST BELTLINE ROAD AND SOUTH ELLISON ROAD, ADDRESSED AS 1000 SOUTH ALLISON ROAD, 1112 WEST BELTLINE ROAD AND 1116 WEST BELTLINE ROAD FROM EXISTING GENERAL RETAIL TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH BASE ZONINGS OF GENERAL RETAIL AND SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL WITH DEVIATIONS AS PRESENTED.
THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 14 94 23, AND STAFF WILL ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE.
UH, IMPRESSIVE TO SAY THE LEAST.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? GO RIGHT AHEAD, MS. BROOKS.
THANKS FOR PROVIDING THE, UH, DISTANCES, UH, BETWEEN THE DRIVEWAYS AND THE DISTANCES TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UH, OR TO THE EDGE OF THE ROAD AT SOUTH ELLERSON.
UM, I DID, I WAS ABLE TO GOOGLE AND FIND T DOTS ACCESS MANAGEMENT MANUAL, UH, ONLINE TO VERIFY THE DISTANCE AND SPACING THAT'S REQUIRED.
UM, SO SECTION THREE OF THE T DOT ACCESS MANAGEMENT MANUAL ADOPTED IN 2011 DEFINES THE GUIDELINES FOR MINIMUM SPACING ON TDOT ROADWAYS.
BELT LINE IS DESIGNATED AS A STATE HIGHWAY AND IS A TXDOT ROADWAY.
UM, THANK YOU ALSO FOR PROVIDING THESE SPEED LIMITS ALONG ROADWAYS IN THE CITY OF DESOTO.
AND IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, BELTLINE ROAD FROM HAMPTON TO DUNCANVILLE ROAD, THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT THERE IS 45 MILES PER HOUR, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO THE MINIMUM DRIVEWAY SPACING ACCORDING TO THE T EXCESS MANAGEMENT MANUAL, UH, ON A ROADWAY WHERE THE SPEED LIMIT IS 45 MILES PER HOUR IS 360 FEET.
SO BASED ON THE GRAPHIC WITH THE DISTANCE THAT YOU PROVIDED, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT INTERSECTION OF BELTLINE AND ELLERSON AND WE GO WEST TO THE FIRST DRIVEWAY, THAT'S 264 FEET, CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT YOU PROVIDED? 234 FEET.
SO 234 FEET PLUS THE 30 FEET DRIVEWAY IS 264 FEET? CORRECT.
SO A DRIVEWAY, THERE IS ALMOST A HUNDRED FEET, UH, LESS THAN A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE DESIGN MANUAL, THE TECH STACK DESIGN MANUAL.
HOWEVER, THAT MANUAL DOES INDICATE IF THE DEVELOPMENT CANNOT MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, UH, A VARI A VARIANCE WILL BE REQUIRED.
SO, AS I ASKED EARLIER, UM, IF THIS IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE AN ASSUMPTION, BUT NOW THAT YOU HAVE THIS INFORMATION AND YOU CAN VERIFY IT IN THE MANUAL, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR A VARIANCE OF A HUNDRED FEET, UH, THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE TECH STOP REQUIREMENTS? BROOK, IS THIS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? THIS IS, THIS IS FOR STAFF.
HE RE HE RECOMMENDED THE ADDITIONAL DRIVER AT THAT LOCATION.
I AM UNABLE AT THIS POINT, I WOULD ACTUALLY NEED TO GET WITH MY CITY ENGINEER, UH, MD HUANG, TO GET HIS PROFESSIONAL OPINION ON THAT.
SO WITH THAT, THAT'S ABOUT, UH, 264 FEET AND THEN YOU INDICATED ANOTHER 163 FEET BETWEEN THAT DRIVEWAY AND THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED DRIVEWAY PER THE APPLICANT'S, WHICH WILL, IF YOU ADD THOSE UP, GIVE YOU 4 27.
SO I, I THINK SOMEWHERE BETWEEN HIS ORIGINAL DRIVEWAY AND YOUR PROPOSED DRIVEWAY IS WHERE THE STANDARDS WOULD BE MET.
WANNA BE CLEAR ON MM-HMM,
WHAT'S THE, I CANNOT SEE THE, THE TEXT ON THIS DIAGRAM.
UH, YOU, YOU TOLD ME THE NUMBERS EARLIER ON THE SAME PLAN I HAVE.
YOU, ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE TOTAL ACREAGE? N NO, SIR.
THE DISTANCE BETWEEN DRIVEWAYS AND THE EDGE OF THE, UH, LOT.
I KNOW YOU SAID 2 34 FOR COMMERCIAL LOT TWO AND THEN YEAH, 2 34 MM-HMM.
AND THEN THE DRIVEWAY WITH ITSELF IS 30 FEET.
AND THEN FROM THAT DRIVEWAY TO THE
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WEST TO THE FIRST OPENING TO THE TOWN HOME IS THE 163.THERE'S NO WAY I COULD SEE THAT.
MS. BROOKS, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, MA'AM? OKAY, MR. RAVNER, GO RIGHT AHEAD, SIR.
YES, AND THANK YOU CHAIRMAN STONE.
MR. BREW, I JUST WANT TO REEMPHASIZE WHAT MY CONCERNS WERE EARLIER IN THE WORK SESSION AND AS I BECAME CLEAR TO ME EXACTLY WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND I'VE UTILIZED THAT AREA A LOT.
EVEN DRIVERS BECOME VERY FRUSTRATED AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC COMING FROM EITHER DIRECTIONS AT THOSE HIGH SPEEDS AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THEIR TURNS AND THINGS.
AND THEN WHEN YOU WOULD COMPOUND THAT WITH PEDESTRIANS, WHICH ARE GONNA TAKE A LOT MORE TIME TO CROSS THE STREET, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT COMPILING, COMPOUNDING A PROBLEM, JUST IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, THAT ALREADY EXISTS WITH FRUSTRATED DRIVERS AND PEOPLE TRYING TO GET THROUGH YELLOW LIGHTS AND, AND EVERYTHING AND WE HAVE, UM, MORE ACCIDENTS.
I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING, THEY'RE GOING TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, CORRECT? AFTERWARDS? CORRECT.
IF YOU FIND THAT IT REQUIRES ADDITIONAL TYPES OF, UH, LIGHTING OR FOR PEDESTRIANS TO CROSS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, WOULD THE CITY BE BEARING THAT COST OR WOULD THAT HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BURIED BY, UM, THE DEVELOPER.
THEN THE OTHER THING IS, WHILE YOU'RE ON THAT CHART, IF YOU COULD JUST POINT OUT TO ME, WITHIN THE PROJECT, WHERE ARE THE SIDEWALKS FOR THE PEDESTRIANS THERE? AS FAR AS CONCEPTUAL PLAN? THEY'RE NOT SHOWN, BUT THEY WOULD, THERE ARE A REQUIREMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN WAIT SIDEWALKS ALL THE WAY AROUND SO PEOPLE COULD WALK ALL THE WAY AROUND SAFELY WITHOUT HAVING TO COME INTO THIS, THE AIRPORT, LEMME BE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY, AND I MAY HAVE SHOT OFF FIRST.
THERE ARE SIDEWALKS WITH TO BE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
AND WHAT I WAS RESPONDING TO WAS THERE WOULD ALSO BE SIDEWALKS ON THE OUTER PERIMETER.
BORDERING WEST BELTLINE AND ELLISON.
AND I'M TALKING ABOUT INTO THE INTERIOR PERIMETER.
WOULD THERE ALSO BE SIDEWALKS? YES.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? THANK YOU, MR. BREWER.
UM, TECHNICALLY THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS ALREADY BEEN REOPENED, BUT ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD OR SPEAK OFFICIALLY ON THE RECORD, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS COMMISSION, YOU CAN FILL OUT A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD.
THE APPLICANT, UH, HE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPROACH THE DIETS, BUT IF ANY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THE RECORD OR JUST HAVE THEIR YAY OR NAY VOTE HEARD FOR THE RECORD, YOU CAN FILL OUT A COMMON CARD WITH DR. DIANA MARKS IN THE REAR OF THE ROOM, AND YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IF THE APPLICANT'S IN THE AUDIENCE, AND I BELIEVE HE IS, IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THIS COMMISSION, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU'RE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO DO SO.
SIR, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTER, TURN ON THE MICROPHONE.
STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE.
UH, COMMISSIONER STONE, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
MY NAME'S DAVID KAFER WITH PELOTON LAND SOLUTIONS.
UH, 11,000 FRISCO STREET, FRISCO, TEXAS 7 5 0 3 3.
COULD YOU PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME FOR ME ONE MORE TIME? IT'S CER CER CER? YES.
UM, BASED ON OUR LAST TIME WE WERE HERE IN JUNE, WE, WE DID REVISE THE, UM, THE SITE PLAN BASED ON COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONER BROOKS WITH REGARDS TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS, UM, THAT WAS REFLECTED IN OUR LATEST CONCEPT PLAN.
I WILL, UH, BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO RUN THROUGH, UM, THAT PLAN.
I KNOW THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT HAD COME UP.
UM, REAL QUICKLY, GOING BACK TO THE VERY FIRST PLAN WHERE WE HAD THE DUAL ENTRIES, WE HAD ALWAYS PROPOSED AN ENTRY OFF TO ELLERSON.
SO THAT WAS MORE OF A CONCEPTUAL, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE A SITE PLAN FOR THOSE RETAIL USES SHOWING A DRIVEWAY THROUGH THERE.
BUT IN OUR OPINION OR MIND, IT WAS ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD WE WOULD HAVE A SECOND POINT OF ACCESS OVER TO ELLERSON, NOT JUST ONE WAY COMING IN AND OUT WHERE THE ORIGINAL ONE WAS.
SO THE REASON WHY I BRING THAT UP IS IF THERE IS, IS AN ISSUE WITH TDOT WITH REGARDS TO THE SPACING TO THE INTERSECTION OF ELLERSON AND BELTLINE, WOULD
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IT BE POSSIBLE? WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE? I'M GUESSING THIS IS THE ARROW TO MOVE THIS BACK TO HERE KNOWING THAT THIS WAS THERE BECAUSE THERE IS THAT EXTRA, UM, EGRESS POINT, INGRESS EGRESS POINT AS WELL AS GOING BACK TO THE LIGHT AND THUS MAYBE POSSIBLY ELIMINATING THE STACKING ISSUE THAT MR. BREWER HAD SPOKE OF.SO UNTIL WE KNOW FROM TECH STOP FOR SURE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN GET THAT VARIANCE, WE WON'T KNOW THAT.
BUT I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME OPTIONS THAT WE COULD, WE COULD WORK WITH.
UM, TWO OF THE MAIN ISSUES, UH, OBVIOUSLY OPEN SPACE ACCESS DRIVE.
UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE OPEN SPACE, I DO HAVE A CALCULATION OF THE OPEN SPACE FOR THE AREA THAT, THAT MR. BREWER HAD JUST SHOWN.
UM, THE PLAYGROUND AREA HERE, INCLUDING THIS STRIP WHERE THE SIDEWALK GOES IS APPROXIMATELY 17,865 SQUARE FEET.
THE OTHER AREA IN BETWEEN RIGHT HERE, INCLUDING ALL THIS SIDEWALK AREA IN BETWEEN IS 10,144 SQUARE FEET FOR A TOTAL OF 28,009 SQUARE FEET OR 0.64 ACRES OF LAND.
OUR REQUIREMENT OF THE 1.52 ACRES BRINGS WHAT WE'RE, WHAT SEEMS TO BE A DEFICIT OF 0.88 OR JUST OVER THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE OF QUOTE UNQUOTE USABLE OPEN SPACE.
HOWEVER, OUR CONTENTION IS BASED ON SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE EXISTING ZONING ORDINANCE.
WITH REGARDS TO, UM, THE MULTI-FAMILY SECTION AND USABLE OPEN SPACE IS THAT THERE'S A STIPULATION THERE THAT SAYS A MINIMUM OF 10% OR 10, 10% CROSS LOW AND A WIDTH OF 10 FEET.
AND IT MAY INCLUDE LANDSCAPE SIDEWALKS, UH, PERGOLA BENCHES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THE AREA THAT WE DID SHOW ON OUR OPEN SPACE PLAN, THOSE ARE ALL THE AREAS THAT WE CALCULATED AS USABLE OPEN SPACE WITH A MINIMUM OF 10 FEET.
IF THOSE ARE ALLOWED, WE'RE ACTUALLY OVER OUR USABLE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT BY 331 SQUARE FEET.
SO, BUT WE, WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE USABLE ASPECT OF IT.
UM, I KNOW THERE WAS ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT SIDEWALKS INTERNALLY, PER THE CITY'S, UM, CROSS STREET SECTION WE'RE REQUIRED TO PUT SIDEWALKS IN WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO WITH US NOW GOING TO A FULL 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH AND REMOVING THE PUBLIC WAYS, WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
SO I KNOW IT WAS PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT WAS A KEY CONCERN OF YOURS.
UM, IN JUNE, WE'VE NOW ADDRESSED THAT.
SO WE'LL HAVE SIDEWALKS ALL THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE ONE CONNECTING FROM THE VERY SOUTHWEST CORNER UP INTO THE, UM, THE PLAYGROUND AREA.
CURRENTLY THERE IS A, APPEARS TO BE ABOUT A FIVE OR SIX FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG THE BELT LINE.
SO THAT WILL ALSO BE UTILIZED.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS PROBABLY PUT IN BY TEXTILE WHEN IT WAS, WHEN I GUESS THE ROAD WAS REBUILT.
UM, AS WAS MENTIONED, MIXED USE DESTINATION.
UH, CURRENTLY IT IS ALL ZONED 10 ACRES FOR GENERAL RETAIL.
UM, I KNOW A CONCERN WAS TRAFFIC AND IF IT REMAINS ALL THE COMMERCIAL, THEN OUR TRIP COUNT GOES WAY UP.
SO BY DOWN ZONING THIS TO MORE OF A SINGLE FAMILY USE, UM, WE'RE HOPING THAT THE TRIP TRIPS PER DAY WOULD ALSO GO DOWN, THUS ELIMINATING A LOT OF VEHICLES AND THAT LOCATION.
UM, AS FAR AS, UH, GOING BACK TO THE OPEN SPACE, WE ESTIMATED THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS AND WE AC ACTUALLY PUT THE THREE BEDROOMS, UM, IN A HIGHER NUMBER TO INFLATE THE NUMBER OF USABLE SPACE THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE.
IT MAY FLIP BASED ON A FINAL DEVELOPER'S, UM, PLAN.
UM, WE MAY ACTUALLY HAVE 36, UM, TWO BEDROOM AND 26 3 BEDROOM.
I DON'T ENVISION ANY ONE BEDROOM HOMES, SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE.
UM, THE UPDATED CONCEPT PLAN, WE ARE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE TO THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID GO BACK AND, AND LOOK AT, UM, OUR MINIMUM SIZE WOULD BE 2300 SQUARE FEET.
UH, OUR LOT SIZE BEING SHOWN AS 2375.
I DID GO BACK AND DO A CALCULATION AND BASED ON OUR LOT SIZES, WE HAVE 10 35 FOOT WIDE LOTS, WHICH WOULD TOTAL A, UM, A SQUARE FOOTAGE
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OF 33 25.WE HAVE, UM, 20, 30 FOOT WIDE LOTS, WHICH WOULD BE 28 50 AND THEN 25, OR ACTUALLY, EXCUSE ME, 32 OF THE 25, WHICH IS THE 2375.
SO OUR AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS 2,681.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THAT 3000 THAN ACROSS THE BOARD IF WE KEPT ALL OF THE LOTS AT, AT OUR MINIMUM SIZE THAT WE'D BE REQUESTING.
AND LASTLY, UH, THE FACADE ARTICULATION CAME UP DURING OUR, DURING THAT.
UM, AN EXAMPLE OF THAT I GUESS WOULD BE WHERE INSTEAD OF HAVING ALONG YOUR 25 OR 20 FOOT BUILDING FRONT, THE WHOLE FACADE LOOKS THE SAME.
IT'S ALL FLAT THIS WAY WITH SAY, A TWO BEDROOM HOME, IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, YOU COULD PULL THAT FACADE BACK, THUS CREATING NICHES, UM, DIFFERENT, ESPECIALLY WITH A A PORCH, WITH THE REQUIREMENT OF THE PORCH 50 FEET, WE COULD DO A SHED STYLE ROOF AND THAT CHANGES THE FRONT FACADE LOOK AND CREATES, UM, UH, A VARIED SETBACK ALONG THE STREET.
SO IT'D BE A LITTLE MORE AESTHETIC THAN JUST A FLAT FRONT GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN.
SO WITH THAT, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH TDOT ON YOUR PROPOSED ENTRYWAYS ALONG BELTLINE.
DO YOU FORESEE THE NEED FOR DECELERATION IN ACCELERATION LANES? I KNOW IN SOME INSTANCES WHERE WE'VE HAD ISSUES LIKE THIS, THEY'VE NOT REQUIRED 'EM.
HOWEVER, THAT'S A DIFFERENT, UM, DIVISION OR OFFICE THAT WE'VE REQUESTED THOSE FROM.
UM, ALL I CAN DO IS I, I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH MR. HUSSEIN, UH, REGARDING THE TRAFFIC TRIP GENERATION.
AND SO WE HAVE ENGINEERS ON, ON OUR STAFF, TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS THAT, UM, AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED WITH, I KNOW THEY HAVE PROBABLY TALKED WITH TEXDOT IN THE DALLAS REGION.
UM, SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GOING AND TALKING TO THEM, UH, TO GET THAT IF WE DO HAVE TO DO A, UM, A DESAL LANE, UM, THERE MAY BE SOME ISSUES BECAUSE OF THE STORM DRAINAGE THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING THERE, UM, AT THAT HARD CORNER.
SO I'M, I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY WOULD REACT TO THAT OR BECAUSE THAT, THAT CAPTURES ALL THE WATER COMING FROM THE SOUTHWEST TO THAT CORNER.
SO IT'S A MATTER OF AN ENGINEERING QUESTION, BUT IF WE'RE REQUIRED TO PUT ONE IN, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD CERTAINLY DO THAT.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE ENGINEERING CHALLENGES.
BUT I'M SPEAKING FROM, UH, TRUE LIFE EXPERIENCE.
WELL, SIX LANE THOROUGHFARE, EXCUSE ME.
AND THE 45 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT IS MERELY A SUGGESTION.
I KNOW ALONG THAT ROADWAY, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR.
SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.
IT'S NOT A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.
BUT IN ACTUALITY, THE WAY DRIVERS DRIVE AND SCREECH UP TO THAT STOPLIGHT AT ELLERSON, LIKE THEY'RE IN A NASCAR RACE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE WHO WAS GOING TO LIVE THERE OR BE ENTERING AND HONORING, ENTERING AND EXITING THAT COMMUNITY OR THOSE TWO COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY, THEY'D PROBABLY BE THANKFUL IF THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED.
I, I JUST HAVE A LITTLE INFORMATION I'D LIKE TO GATHER AROUND THE PLAYGROUND.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOUR FOCUS IS ON CHILDREN? THAT'S YES.
GENERALLY A PLAYGROUND GENERALLY IS FROM TWO TO 10 YEARS.
AND WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR VISION FOR THAT PARTICULAR PLAYGROUND? UH, PLAY STRUCTURE, BENCHES AROUND THERE.
UM, WE COULD HAVE A PERGOLA OR TWO TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SHADE.
YOU KNOW, TREES GOING IN AT THREE INCH CALIP IS NOT GONNA PROVIDE MUCH RELIEF UNTIL THEY, THEY GROW TO MATURITY OR, OR PARTIAL TO MATURITY.
UM, SO HAVING A, A CANOPY TYPE STRUCTURE OVER A BENCH.
UM, CERTAINLY WASTE BASKETS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE REASON I WAS ASKING THAT IS BECAUSE I COULD ALSO ENVISION THAT PEOPLE MAY DOWNSIZE TO THIS PARTICULAR PLACE AND THEY WOULD BE OLDER, EVEN AS AN OLDER ADULT OR AN ACTIVE SENIOR, YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO OUTSIDE AS WELL.
AND THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN RELATIVE TO GREEN SPACE, IS THAT THE FOCUS IS MORE ON KIDDOS AND FAMILIES, BUT NOT A FOCUS ON OTHER TYPE OF RESIDENTS THAT MAY LIVE THERE.
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WITH YOU RELATIVE TO, AND GREEN SPACE IS BECOMING A VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO.AND I WOULD HOPE THAT IF POSSIBLE THERE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO THAT COULD INCORPORATE MORE, THAT COULD BE FOCUSED MORE ON YOUR ADULTS AND ACTIVE ADULTS OR ACTIVE SENIOR ADULTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT YOU ALL WOULD THINK OF SOME WAYS TO DO THAT.
BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
WELL, HOPEFULLY THEY'D HAVE GRANDKIDS AND THEY'D BE ABLE TO USE THAT.
BUT SOMETIMES WE WANT TO GET AWAY FROM THE GRANDKIDS.
I CALLED YOU MR. BELL EARLIER.
I WAS LOOKING AT MR. BELL THINKING ABOUT YOU.
YOUR NAME AGAIN? YOUR MR. UH, CALI.
UM, SO I KIND OF AGREE WITH OUR CHAIR, UH, MR. STONE, THAT WAS ONE OF MY CONCERNS.
THE AUXILIARY LANES TO CHANNELIZE THAT RIGHT.
TURN INTO, UM, THE SITE BECAUSE HE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
UM, AND THERE'S SO MANY DRIVERS WHO ARE DISTRACTED.
IT'S THE MAIN ROUTE FOR KIDDOS WHO ARE LEAVING MOST OF THE SUBDIVISIONS TO THE WEST TO GET TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO IT'S A LOT OF DISTRACTED DRIVING.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE FOR REAR END, UM, CRASHES.
SO YOU ASK WHEN YOU FIRST, UH, STARTED GIVING YOUR PRESENTATION, IS THERE AN OPTION TO REMOVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDED DRIVEWAY AND GO BACK TO, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT YOU PROPOSED UNTIL WE UNDERSTAND IF TEXTILE WOULD SUPPORT, UM, THAT ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAY? PERSONALLY, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT BECAUSE PROFESSIONALLY THAT'S NOT WHAT THE GUIDELINES REQUIRE.
HOWEVER, I WOULD SUPPORT ONE DRIVEWAY IF IT WAS A LITTLE BIT WIDER.
ARE YOU ALL OKAY WITH POSSIBLY WIDENING THAT, UH, DRIVEWAY? WHICH DRIVE? THAT ONE? THIS ONE OR TO THE EAST? THIS ONE HERE? NO, WE'RE MOVING THAT ONE.
AND INSTEAD OF A 30 FOOT DRIVEWAY, MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT WIDER, BUT ACTUALLY THIS ONE IS RIGHT OF WAY.
IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A DRIVEWAY.
IT'S CONNECTED TO RIGHT OF WAY, RIGHT OF WAY TO RIGHT OF WAY.
SO WE'RE AT A MINIMUM STREET SECTION RIGHT HERE.
AND WE WOULD BE UTILIZING YOUR PAVING, WHATEVER YOUR STANDARD PAVING WIDTH IS.
WHAT I BELIEVE IT'S 27 FEET BACK TO BACK.
AND YOU'RE, AND THAT ONE IS 30 FEET.
THE ONE WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS 30 FEET TO ALLOW FOR ANY OVERSIZED VEHICLES TO TURN INTO.
MAYBE I WROTE THE NUMBERS DOWN.
I WROTE 30 FEET ON MY, YEAH, SO IT WAS 30 FEET HERE.
AND THEN THIS ONE IS WHATEVER THE STANDARD STREET SECTION IS, MR. AND THEN OVER HERE WE HAVE WHAT THAT STANDARD IS.
THE INFORMATION THAT I PRESENTED TO YOU, IF YOU START AT ELLISON AND COME BACK TO THE WEST, THE FIRST NUMBER FROM ELLISON, RIGHT OF WAY TO THAT FIRST COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAY IS THE TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR THIRTY FOUR FEET.
THAT DRIVEWAY THAT'S BETWEEN THE TWO COMMERCIAL LOT IS 30.
THEN THE DISTANCE FROM THAT DRIVEWAY ON THE WEST SIDE TO THAT ENTRANCE IS 1 63.
I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A WIDTH, SO I WROTE SOMETHING DOWN.
SO HE'S CORRECT THAT IF WE'RE SAYING THAT IT'S 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, SO THAT DRIVEWAY IS OKAY.
UM, THANK YOU FOR ADDING THE SIDEWALKS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, YOU DIDN'T SAY HOW WIDE THOSE SIDEWALKS WERE.
WHATEVER THE CITY REQUIREMENT IS, AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE FIVE FEET.
IS IT FOUR OR FIVE? FIVE, YEAH.
FIVE FEET, SIX FOOT ALONG A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.
SO SIX FOOT ALONG THE BELT LINE, WHICH IS EXISTING.
I THINK I WROTE DOWN THE WRONG NUMBER FOR THE DRIVEWAY.
MS. BROOKS, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MS. CESAR? GO RIGHT AHEAD, MA'AM.
A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UM, THAT I HAVE.
UH, UNDER AGRICULTURAL STANDARDS, WHAT'S A RECESS VEGETABLE? UNDER THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS? YES.
UM, WELL I USED TO KNOW THAT WHAT A VEGETABLE WAS.
UM, ANYBODY
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IT'D BE RECESSED.YOU WOULD HAVE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT RECESSED BACK THERE.
I AM GOING TO AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE HERE.
UM, OPEN SPACES SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST A TOP PLAYGROUND.
UH, THINGS THAT, UH, WOULD, UH, APPEAL TO OLDER PERSONS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UH, HELPFUL FOR THIS TYPE OF, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
LET'S SEE IF I HAD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HERE.
EVERYTHING ELSE WAS ANSWERED IN YOUR, UM, ITEMIZATION.
I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE PARKING, BUT YOU DID, UH, TELL US THE PARKING IS GOING TO BE TWO SPACES PER UNIT, CORRECT? WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO GARAGE SPACES PER UNIT.
SO THERE'S ANOTHER 124 JUST FOR THE, FOR, SO EACH UNIT WOULD HAVE FOUR SPACES COVERED AND UNCOVERED.
AND THEN OUR REQUIREMENT IS TO PROVIDE 16 VISITOR SPACES BASED ON THE NUMBER THAT, UH, NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE HAVE.
AND I BELIEVE WE'RE PROVIDING CLOSE TO 34.
SO WE, AND I DID WRITE THAT TOTAL DOWN.
WE DO HAVE A, AN OVERALL PARKING TOTAL OF, UM, I WANNA SAY IT WAS 282.
NOW, WHERE WOULD THOSE VISITOR PARKING SPACES BE? CAN YOU POINT THOSE OUT TO ME PLEASE? YES.
SO WE HAVE SOME IN AN, WE HAVE SOME IN AN ISLAND RIGHT HERE.
WE HAVE SOME HEAD END PARKING HERE.
AND THEN TO MEET OUR, TO CHANGE THE 40 FOOT PUBLIC WAY ALONG HERE, IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD HEAD END PARKING SPACES ON THE ENDS.
WE CONVERTED THOSE TO PARALLEL PARKING SPACES.
AND THAT I DID SEE THAT THUS ALLOWED US TO GET TO THE 50 FOOT AND TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
LAST QUESTION ON THE COMMERCIAL PORTION.
WHAT ARE YOU ANTICIPATING THESE BUSINESSES TO BE? ANY IDEAS? NO, MA'AM.
BUT ONE OF THE, WE WANTED A HIGHER QUALITY OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL.
THAT'S WHY WE OPTED TO LIMIT OR RE UM, OMIT THOSE USES THAT WERE PROVIDED TO YOU THAT, THAT WE PROPOSED TO, TO GET RID OF NO DONUT SHOPS OR, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT SHOW UP INVARIABLY IN A, IN A, A SMALL STRIP LIKE THIS.
YOU DID OMIT QUITE A BIT, BUT YOU'RE LEFT OPEN MORE.
THERE ARE SOME YES, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO APPEAL TO THE MARKET AND OKAY.
GO RIGHT AHEAD SIR AND I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD.
UM, ON YOUR, YOUR STRIP, THE, YOUR LONGEST UNIT STRIP THERE ON THE WEST SIDE.
UM, ARE YOU INCLUDING THAT LITTLE GREEN STRIP ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING AS PART OF YOUR OPEN GREEN SPACE CALCULATION? I AM.
THEY STAFF IS NOT BECAUSE IT IS 10 FEET WIDE AND OKAY.
YOU COULD, TECHNICALLY IT SERVES TWO PURPOSES.
IF THERE WAS A FIRE ON THE INTERIOR UNIT, IT SERVES AN ESCAPE POINT OUT THE BACK DOOR, OUT THE BACK FENCE.
AND THEY HAVE A, A ROUTE, A SAFE ROUTE TO GET AWAY FROM A, A BUILDING THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE ON FIRE.
SECONDLY, SOMEBODY COULD WALK THEIR DOG BACK THERE.
WE'RE ENVISIONING LOW FENCES, NOT, NOT SIX FOOT TALL WOOD FENCES FOR THESE BACKYARDS.
UM, PEOPLE WALKING BACK THERE CAN GET TO KNOW THEIR NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, SAY HI.
UM, THE ENCLOSED AREA IN THE BACK PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A SMALL GARDEN OR SOMEPLACE FOR SOMEBODY TO SIT OUTSIDE, MAYBE A SENIOR, UM, UH, THAT MR. LL SPOKE OF, UM, ON THEIR OWN LOT WITHOUT WALKING AROUND, BUT THAT THEY COULD WALK A DOG IN, IN THE GRASS AREA.
CERTAINLY THERE ARE EXISTING TREES OUT HERE.
WE TRY TO PRESERVE MOST OF THOSE IF POSSIBLE.
IF NOT, CERTAINLY WE COULD PROVIDE SOME TREES BACK THERE.
UH, LANDSCAPING AND MAYBE A BENCH IN THE GRASS.
DO YOU HAVE A CALCULATION FOR THE AREA OF THAT STRIP? OH, I'M GONNA GUESS IT'S 10 FEET WIDE, UM, BY ALMOST 300 FEET.
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SO ABOUT 3000 SQUARE FEET.AND DO YOU HAVE, AND YOU SAID THE, THE TOTAL CALCULATED USABLE SPACE THAT YOU CALCULATED INTERIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT IS 28,000, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
UH, IS THERE A PLAN TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN THAT STRIP BEHIND THAT BUILDING? NO, SIR.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
POSSIBLY WALKING A DOG OR WALKING IN THE GRASS.
UM, UM, I DO YOU THINK THAT IF, IF THERE WERE A SIDEWALK BACK THERE, IT COULD BE COUNTED AS USABLE SPACE? AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE INTERPRETATION OF STAFF? MY OPINION WOULD BE YES, BECAUSE WE MEET THE 10 FOOT MINIMUM WITH THRESHOLD THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE.
BUT I ANDREA ALSO UNDERSTAND THE DEFINITION OF USABLE.
IS IT TRULY USABLE AS A 10 FOOT GRASSED AREA OR ARGUE? IT COULD BE MADE BOTH WAYS? I WOULD, I WOULD SAY YES, OBVIOUSLY.
'CAUSE I'M ON THIS SIDE AND LIKE, AS I SAID, AN EXAMPLE MAY BE WALKING THEIR SMALL DOG.
WE COULD PROVIDE WASTE COLLECTION WITH THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE TRASH BAG WHERE PEOPLE CLEAN UP AFTER THEIR DOG.
UM, IT WOULD BE A GOOD AREA FOR THAT.
MR. PUKE, YOU HAVE THE LAST WORD.
UM, THIS IS BEING PRESENTED AS LIKE A DIFFERENT OPTION, UH, FOR DESOTO RESIDENCE.
UH, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU KNOW FOR TWO BEDROOMS AND FOR THREE BEDROOMS, DO YOU HAVE A PRICE POINT IN MIND IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH YOU'D BE CHARGING FOR THESE? I'M GONNA SAY PROBABLY THE TWO EIGHTIES RIGHT NOW.
MARKET, I MEAN, WHO, WHO KNOWS? UM, BUT I CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION, TRY TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.
UM, BUT MY INCLINATION IS THE LOWEST WOULD BE TWO 80, SOMEWHERE IN THERE FOR A TWO BEDROOM.
AND IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE FINISH OUT ON THE INSIDE AS WELL.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE UNIT.
UM, A LOT GOES INTO THE PRICE OF A HOME, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT COSTS, LAND COSTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO HOWEVER THE DEVELOPER FINISHES THEM OUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE GRANITE COUNTERTOPS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, TRADITIONAL REGULAR COUNTERTOPS OR FORMICA.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD VARY UP THE, UM, THE PRICE.
YOU KNOW, IS IT CARPET, IS IT LUXURY CARPET? IS IT JUST YOUR RUN OF THE MILL CARPET? IS IT LAMINATE FLOORS? IS IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH THAT GOES INTO THE PRICING OF A HOME.
BUT TRYING TO GET AN ENTRY LEVEL TOWN HOME, I WOULD, I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY TWO EIGHTIES TO 300, SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE LARGER ONES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE COULD POTENTIALLY GO UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, UH, ELECTRONICALLY, WE RECEIVED FOUR COMMENT CARDS.
UH, IT LOOKS LIKE TWO IN FAVOR AND TWO IN OPPOSITION.
ONE OF THE ONES IN OPPOSITION.
UH, BASICALLY THAT PARTICULAR RESIDENT HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, ACCORDING TO HER CALCULATIONS, BEEN ABOUT 80 FEET AWAY FROM HER RESIDENCE.
SO I'M SEEING THIS BUFFER ZONE, IF YOU WILL, DOWN ELLISON ROAD.
IS THERE ANY THOUGHT, OR WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO EXPANDING THAT BUFFER ZONE? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IF I'M COMING OFF A WHITE ROCK, UH, WHITEWATER TRAIL, UH, OUT OF, OUT OF THAT PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S LIKE A BUFFER ZONE.
I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET.
UH, BUT IF I GO A LITTLE BIT NORTHERN NORTH, NORTH ON UH, ELLISON ROAD, IF I COME OUTTA THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M FACED WITH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO IS THERE ANY THOUGHT ABOUT EXPANDING YOUR BUFFER ZONE? SO IF I'M COMING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST, I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
MAYBE I SEE SHRUBS, UH, WALL OR SOMETHING.
BUT OTHER THAN THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THAT BUFFER ZONE WILL BE CREATED KIND OF BY DEFAULT.
WHEN WE COME OFF THE EDGE OF PAVING HERE, WE'RE REQUIRED TO PUT A MINIMUM FIRE LANE RADIUS OF EITHER 25 OR 30 FEET.
WE HAVE TO MATCH THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
SO WE'RE TALKING BETWEEN 50 AND 60 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT ALL THE WAY BACK TO WHERE THE FIRE LANE DRIVE WOULD BE OR THE DRIVEWAY.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD PULL 18 FEET OFF THAT AND PARK BETWEEN THE PARKING AND THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE.
WE WILL HAVE AN AREA THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED, UM, GOOD FOR LANDSCAPING.
SO BY DEFAULT THAT GREEN AREA IS GONNA EXPAND ALL THE WAY UP TO TO BELTLINE.
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QUICK QUESTION.MR. OH, RIGHT AHEAD, MS. DANIEL.
MR. COLE HOFER, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT OPENED THE DOOR FOR ME, THOUGHT PATTERN SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THESE UNITS.
UH, TWO BEDROOM, THREE BEDROOM.
WHAT KIND OF SQUARE FOOTAGE ARE WE TALKING PLEASE, SIR? SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A 95 FOOT LOT AND WE HAVE A 25 FOOT FRONT AND A 15 FOOT REAR YARD, THAT GIVES US A 60 FOOT BUILDING ENVELOPE ON THE GROUND, 60 BY 25 IS WHATEVER THAT MATH IS.
UM, I'M AN AGGIE, SO I DON'T DO MATH.
UM, BESTER DO YOU HAVE A CALCULATOR REAL QUICK? 16, I THINK SIX.
SO IF YOU DO TWO STORY AND, AND KEEP IN MIND THE FIRST FLOOR WOULD HAVE A GARAGE, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 440 SQUARE FEET.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S TAKEN OUTTA THE FIRST FLOOR.
UPSTAIRS WE COULD HAVE, UM, WITH THE TWO BEDROOM, EVERYTHING ELSE, WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER 900 TO 1500 SQUARE FEET.
AND ALL OF THESE UNITS ARE, UH, TWO STORY.
AND I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE A MINIMUM, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE WITHIN THE, THE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED PER THE ZONING THAT WE DIDN'T ASK FOR A VARIANCE FOR.
UM, USUALLY APPLICANTS COME IN HERE AND TELL THE CITY WHAT THEY WANT AND ASK FOR DEVIATIONS.
IN THIS CASE, YOU AND MR. DKE, IT SEEMS AS IF YOU'VE BEEN WILLING TO LISTEN AND COMPROMISE TO TAKE FEEDBACK AND ACTUALLY INCORPORATE THAT INTO YOUR DESIGN ON SEVERAL FRONTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, IF YOU AND MR. DKE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS PROPERTY OWNER SINCE BACK IN TWO, 2021.
WELL, HATS OFF TO YOU FOR ADHERING TO THE LESSONS LEARNED.
UM, I THINK WE'VE EXHAUSTED OUR QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, MR. DKE, YOU MAY HAVE A SEAT, SIR.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE RECORD? AND FOR THE RECORD, MR. DKE IS AN APPROVAL, OBVIOUSLY.
WE WILL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:09 PM ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? GO RIGHT AHEAD, SIR.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE WHAT YOU SAID.
THAT WAS MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY AS I LISTENED TO THE PRESENTER THIS EVENING THAT HE SEEMS LIKE HE'S LISTENING AND HE'S WILLING TO DO THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING.
NOW MY QUESTION TO YOU, MR. BREWER, IS IF WE APPROVE THIS, THIS EVENING, THERE, THIS IS ALL CONCEPT.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE SUGGESTED, THINGS THAT HE SAID HE'S WILLING TO DO, WHAT TYPE OF GUARANTEE DO WE HAVE THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DESIRING TO SEE WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND FOLLOW THROUGH ON? I WOULD ASK THAT CITY ATTORNEY TO HELP ME ON THIS ONE.
I KNOW ULTIMATELY THE ORDINANCE THAT IS PREPARED BY A CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WILL HAVE WHATEVER ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT IS SPECIFIED IN THERE IS ADDITIONAL TO THE SITE PLAN.
IF IT'S LANGUAGE THAT SAYS, UH, MUST MEET REQUIREMENTS PER TDOT DRIVER REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE PLACED IN THERE ALSO.
BUT I THINK OTHER THAN THE DRIVEWAY AND YOUR DESIRE TO HAVE MAYBE A, A GREEN SPACE WITH AMENITIES FOR OLDER, I HAVEN'T HEARD YOU MENTIONING MUCH OF ANY OTHER COMMENTS UNLESS I'VE MISSED THEM.
THIS IS NOT A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, IS IT? I'M READING THROUGH THE NOTES.
SO THERE STILL HAS TO BE A, A PLAT THAT'S SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL AS WELL.
WELL, THIS IS THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING ELEMENT.
O ONLY IF HIS CONCEPT PLAN GOT APPROVED, THEN THAT'S WHEN IT WOULD COME BACK FOR PLATTING.
BUT ON THE PLATTING, ARE YOU GONNA SEE IS THE INDIVIDUAL 62 LOTS PLUS THE TWO COMMERCIAL LOTS ON THE CORNER.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER RNE IS, IS TALKING ABOUT.
HE'S TALKING ABOUT THOSE ADDITIONAL FEATURES OR REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, WHICH WAS, UM, THE AMENITY FOR A, UM, I GUESS AN OLDER ADULT DO THE, THE, I'M TRYING TO GET THE WORD RIGHT, MEDIAN
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE REGULATIONS FOR THE SIDEWALKS, WE HAVE REGULATIONS
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FOR, UM, LANDSCAPING.SO I GUESS COMMISSIONER, CAN I ASK, SO HAVE I MISSED ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS OTHER THAN THE CONCERN ABOUT TECH STOCKS DISTANCE, DISTANCE REQUIREMENT? THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT I WAS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT IS INCORPORATING A LITTLE MORE GREEN SPACE, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE ALL TYPES OF RESIDENTS.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE'VE CONTINUED TO DISCUSS THE TRAFFIC, THE SPEEDING, THE SAFETY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT YOU SAID THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BEAR THE EXPENSE IF THOSE THINGS ARE NEEDED.
IF I'M CORRECT AND I'LL ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
I KNOW I'VE SEEN OTHER ORDINANCES WHERE LANGUAGE IS PUT IN, PUT IN THAT THUS REQUIRES A, UH, TIA TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS TO BE CONDUCTED.
UH, ANY IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WOULD'VE TO BE A DEVELOPER'S EXPENSE.
YOU KNOW, WE DID THAT WHEN WE BROUGHT YOU THE CASE, UM, DEALING WITH THE APARTMENTS.
SO LANGUAGE CAN BE PUT IN THERE IN THE ORDINANCE.
YOU JUST, WHATEVER COMMISSION NEEDS TO DO, WANTS TO ADD TO THEIR MOTION TO ADJUST WHAT WAS PRESENTED.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO.
BUT IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S CODIFIABLE THAT MAKES SENSE THAT CAN BE WRITTEN TO THIS ORDINANCE.
UM, IF WE'RE GOING BACK AT THE SITE PLAN, WE'RE APPROVING A CONCEPT PLAN, USUALLY THOSE CONCEPT PLANS ARE APPROVED IN THE PD.
THEY'VE GOTTA BE IN SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE.
IF TEXT RULES SAY IT CAN'T BE RIGHT HERE AND SHIFTED IT, I MEAN IT'S NOT GOING TO, THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT PLAN.
IT'S NOT GONNA OVERRIDE THE TEXT RULES OR PREVENT THE, THE DRIVE BEING PUT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE PUT IN REGARDS TO YOUR OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.
Y'ALL ARE JUST GONNA HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT AND DECIDE IN A CODIFIABLE WAY WHAT THAT MEANS AND THEN ADJUST IT IN YOUR MOTION.
'CAUSE YOU'RE ADJUSTING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
'CAUSE STAFF, UM, HAS PRESENTED IT.
THEY'VE APPROVED, THEY'VE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AS IT IS IN THE STAFF REPORT WITH JUST THOSE DEVIATIONS.
IF Y'ALL WANT TO AMEND THE MOTION TO DEVIATE FROM THEIR APPROVAL, Y'ALL NEED TO DISCUSS THAT, DECIDE WHAT THAT MEANS, WHAT THOSE METRICS ARE, OR, OR YOU KNOW, SOMETHING CODIFIABLE UNDERSTANDABLE, ABLE TO BE WRITTEN INTO THIS ORDINANCE AND MAKE A MOTION, UH, THAT INCLUDES THAT QUICK, UH, CLARIFICATION.
DOES FOLLOWING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL INDICATE THAT WE SUPPORT THIS RECOMMENDED DRIVEWAY? OR WOULD WE HAVE TO BUILD IN LANGUAGE TO SAY WE DO NOT SUPPORT THAT IT INCLUDES AS PRESENTED.
SO THE CONCEPT PLAN AS PRESENTED IS THIS, BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST A CONCEPT PLAN.
THOSE PDS ARE WRITTEN, THEY'VE GOTTA BE IN SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN, ADJUSTING A DRIVEWAY BECAUSE OF TEXT DOT RULES.
I'M OF THE OPINION THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADJUSTED BASED OFF JUST THIS CONCEPT PLAN.
BUT IF YOU DID NOT WANT THE DRIVEWAY THERE, YES, YOU WOULD HAVE TO AMEND YOUR MOTION TO SAY, I DO NOT WANT THAT DRIVEWAY THERE.
CHAIRMAN STONE
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. RAVENEL.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY, IS THIS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS? BECAUSE I COULD BE THE ONLY COMMISSIONER HERE THAT IS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING ADDITIONAL SCREEN SPACE AND IF THAT'S THE FACT, THERE'S NO NEED FOR US TO SPEND AMOUNT OF TIME TRYING TO QUANTIFY ADDITIONAL SPACE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M, SO THERE'S NO NEED TO LIKE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO QUANTIFY IT.
IF YOU'RE SAYING I'M GOOD, I'M GOOD, I'M GOOD, I'M GOOD.
SO I JUST NEED TO, IF YOU DON'T MIND TELLING ME, ARE YOU GOOD WITH THE GREEN SPACE? IF I CAN, IF IF STAFF'S INTERPRETATION OF THE GREEN SPACE ORDINANCE WOULD ALLOW FOR THE ADDITION OF CERTAIN FEATURES THAT MIGHT CHANGE IT FROM JUST BEING GRASS TO A USABLE SPACE, THEN I THINK THAT WE COULD SAY, WELL BEHIND THIS BUILDING, IF WE RAN A SIDEWALK, WE THAT WOULD CHANGE THAT SPACE TO USABLE BEHIND THAT, THAT LOWER PIECE DOWN THERE ON THE BOTTOM, THAT SEEMS TO BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SPACE.
IF WE RAN THE SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY AROUND THAT BUILDING AND THEN PUT SOME STATIONARY TABLES OR SOMETHING FOR ELDERLY PEOPLE TO SIT ON AND I DON'T KNOW, VIEW NATURE, THAT
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MIGHT QUALIFY AS EXTRA GREEN SPACE AND WE COULD PROBABLY GET IT OVER THE LINE THAT WAY.STAFF IS SAYING THAT SINCE WE ARE FEELING WE CAN'T QUANTIFY IT, IF YOU ACCEPTABLE WITH HIS CONCEPT PLAN, IT SHOWS WHAT GREENERY HE IS PROPOSING.
MR. VAR, I THINK WHERE I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED HERE IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU WERE PRESENTING IT INITIALLY, YOU SAID YOU DID NOT AGREE WITH HIS DEFINITION OR THE INCLUSION OF IT AS BEING GREEN SPACE.
SO I'M, BUT YET, AND THEN I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED WHEN IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE DO APPROVE IT.
MY COMMENT, IF YOU LOOK UP AT THIS CHART THAT HE IS SHOWING, UH, THE, THE TABLE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THE THIRD ONE, UH, THAT BLOCK SAYS OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.
IT SAYS OPEN SPACE REQUIRED, UH, 66,600.
UH, HE SHOWS WHAT A TWO BEDROOM ADDS UP TO BE.
I THINK THAT'S 23 SHOWS THAT A THREE BEDROOM TO BE 43.
AND HE SAYS OPEN SPACE PRO PROVIDED I THINK 66, UH, 602.
SO BY HIS NUMBERS, HE'S SAYING HE'S MEETING IT AND HE'S TAKING INTO AN ACCOUNT EVERY GREEN SPACE THAT HE'S SHOWN ON THAT DRAWING.
SO HIS COMPILATION IS SAYING THAT IT'S THERE.
STAFF IS SAYING SOME OF THAT GREEN SPACE WE ARE SAYING IS NOT USABLE.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE THERE.
BUT TRULY SAYING HOW MUCH OF IT IS NOT, WE CANNOT SAY THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE SAYING THAT IF HE IS REQUESTING A DEVIATION JUST TO COVER HIS BASES FROM THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT OF AN MULTI-FAMILY, IT'S WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION YOU WERE ABOUT TO BRING A MOTION UP FOR DISCUSSION, MA'AM.
WELL, I GUESS I CAN KIND OF TAKE MR. RENELL'S.
UM, HE SAID THE PRECEDENTS MY ONLY CONCERN IS IT'S THAT I SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
I SUPPORT THE DEVELOPER'S, UH, CONCEPT PLAN.
I DO NOT SUPPORT, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE TECH GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS, UM, TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S POINT.
HOWEVER, THERE'S A PROCESS FOR A VARIANCE THAT STAFF CAN SUBMIT ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
AND IF THAT'S, UM, THE INTENT, I DON'T SUPPORT THAT.
UH, I HEARD MR. RAVEN'S CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC.
MR. BREWER INDICATED THAT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS HAS BEEN REQUESTED AND WILL BE SUBMITTED.
UM, THE TIA WILL LIST RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ANY MITIGATION AND STAFF WOULD, THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE REQUIRED TO, UH, MITIGATE WHATEVER TRAFFIC CONCERNS THERE ARE.
SO I SUPPORT, UM, I SUPPORT THE, CAN I MAKE A MOTION? ABSOLUTELY.
OR DO WE WANNA DISCUSS THAT? YOU CAN BRING A MOTION TO THE FLOOR IF YOU'D LIKE.
AND WE'LL SECOND IT AND WE'LL EITHER VOTE YAY OR NAY.
I BELIEVE IT'LL PROBABLY PASS ON THIS FIRST GO ROUND.
JUST MY INCLINATION, BUT IF NOT, WE'LL DISCUSS IT.
SO I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, A DRIVEWAY BETWEEN, OR MAYBE I SHOULD PUT THE DISTANCE.
A DRIVEWAY, 264 FEET WEST OF ELLERSON ROAD.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BROUGHT BY MS. BROOKS.
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF CASE Z DASH 1 4 9 4 2 3 AS WRITTEN WITH VERBAL AMENDMENTS BY MS. BROOKS.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND STATE I AYE THE MEASURE HAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
UM, MS. RAZZI AND MR. BREWER, IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS EVENING? NOW FROM MY POSITION TO REITERATE OUR CONGRATULATIONS TO MISS, UH, JUANA JORDAN ON YOUR PROMOTION.
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR PROMOTION, MS. JORDAN, WILLIAM, UH, MS. WILLIAMS, JORDAN.
UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING OH, HOW MY BUTCHERING NAMES TONIGHT.
CONGRATULATIONS WHEN NARA, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN THAT POSITION FOR
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FORESEEABLE FUTURE.AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOMEBODY TO RELIEVE DR. MARKS IN THE REAR.
UH, IF WE HAVE NO FURTHER BUSINESS IN FRONT OF US THIS EVENING, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DISMISSAL.
SO SECOND MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MS. UH CAESAR.