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GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.IT IS 6:00 PM IT'S TUESDAY, AUGUST 15TH.
I'M MAYOR RACHEL PROCTOR, AND I WANNA WELCOME YOU TO OUR WORK SESSION FOR THE DESOTA CITY COUNCIL.
AT THIS TIME, I'M GONNA ASK OUR CITY SECRETARY TO GIVE US A ROLL CALL.
HERE, MAYOR TIM LETITIA HUGHES.
COUNCIL MEMBER NICOLE RAPHAEL.
COUNCIL MEMBER DYNA MARKS HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CRYSTAL CHISHOLM HERE.
[1. Review of Master Calendar of Events and Special Meetings]
THIS TIME WE'LL HAVE THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.FIRST, WE'LL HAVE REVIEW OF MASTER CALENDAR OF EVENTS AND SPECIAL MEETINGS BY CITY MANAGER BRANDON WRIGHT.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.
UH, JUST TAKING A QUICK LOOK AT OUR UPCOMING EVENTS ON THE CALENDAR FOR YOU TO BE AWARE OF.
FIRST OF ALL, WE DO HAVE BOARDS AND COMMISSION COMMISSIONS INTERVIEWS COMING UP, UH, THIS MONDAY, AUGUST 21ST.
UH, THAT'LL START AT 6:00 PM AND WE'LL CONDUCT THOSE OVER IN THE COUNCIL CONFERENCE ROOM.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE ON AUGUST 31ST, THAT'S A THURSDAY.
WE DO HAVE OUR, OUR MAYOR'S QUARTERLY MEETING, UH, THAT'S GOING ON.
THAT'LL BE AT SIX 30 HERE IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
WE INVITE ALL OF OUR HOA GROUPS TO COME ON DOWN FOR THAT.
PLEASE NOTE THE DIFFERENCE, THE DATE CHANGE THAT IS A DIFFERENT DATE THAN IT NORMALLY.
THAT IS A NORMAL, THAT IS A DIFFERENT DATE THAN IT NORMALLY IS, IS CONDUCTED.
SO I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT NOR WEEK.
IT'S NORMALLY ON EPTEMBER THIRD.
SO IT'S, THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, SO IT'S GONNA BE ON AUGUST 31ST, SO IT'S ONE WEEK EARLY.
UM, IN THAT SITUATION, UH, WE ALSO HAVE OUR ANNUAL HOA WORKSHOPS.
WE INVITE ALL OF OUR HOAS TO COME DOWN TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
THAT'LL BE SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 9TH, AND THAT STARTS AT NINE O'CLOCK HERE, UH, IN THE TOWN CENTER ATRIUM, UH, IN COUNT AND COUNCIL CHAMBERS AS WELL.
UM, ON SEPTEMBER 14TH, THAT'S A THURSDAY, WE HAVE OUR ADOPT THE STREET BANQUET, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CELEBRATING OUR, OUR PARTNERS WHO HELP, UH, KEEP DESOTO BEAUTIFUL.
AND THEN ALSO ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, WE HAVE OUR HISPANIC HERITAGE FESTIVAL AT 6:00 PM UH, THERE IN THE AMPHITHEATER, UH, RIGHT BEHIND TOWN CENTER.
UH, AND THAT'S ALL I'LL GO THROUGH, UM, FOR TODAY.
BUT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OTHER CALENDAR ITEMS, I CAN GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THOSE.
THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER WRIGHT COUNSEL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CITY MANAGER WRIGHT ON THE REVIEW OF THE MASTER CALENDAR OF EVENTS AND SPECIAL MEETINGS? HEARING NONE, MS. THOMAS WILL TAKE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
[2. Review of Regular Agenda items]
OF REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS BY CITY MANAGER BRANDON WRIGHT.OKAY, SO, UM, I'LL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING.
UM, STARTING IN, UH, IN SECTION TWO THERE, UM, ITEMS B, C, AND D, THOSE ARE THREE ITEMS RELATED TO VEHICLE PURCHASES, ALL FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, TWO TAHOES, THREE EXPLORERS.
AND THEN ITEM D IS RELATED TO OUTFITTING THOSE, UH, THOSE, UH, VEHICLES WITH THE NECESSARY POLICE EQUIPMENT THAT COMES WITH THAT.
UM, ITEM E IS RELATED TO THE ATMOS CITY STEERING COMMITTEE.
UM, SO YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT EVERY YEAR THAT THE, UM, ATMOS AS PART OF THE, UH, THE UTILITY BOARD PROCESS, THEY SUBMIT THEIR RATE FILING.
UH, IT GET THEN GETS CHALLENGED BY THIS GROUP OF, OF CITIES THAT COME TOGETHER TO NEGOTIATE AND, AND REALLY HAVE BUYING POWER TOGETHER TO DRAW DOWN THE RATES, UM, FROM OUR UTILITY PARTNERS.
UH, IN THAT CASE, THEY'VE DONE THOSE, UH, NEGOTIATIONS WITH ATMOS AND SETTLED ON, UH, CERTAIN, UH, LEVELS OF INCREASES FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
UM, I BELIEVE THE RESIDENTIAL RATES ARE INCREASING SOMEWHERE AROUND A LITTLE OVER 7%.
BUSINESS RATES ARE RAISE ARE RISING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIVE AND 6% FOR THE YEAR.
UM, SO THAT'S THE NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT, UH, RATE FOR THAT.
AND THEY ARE RECOMMENDING THAT IT BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, ITEM F IS RELATED TO OUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH PARKLAND HEALTH AND HOSPITAL SYSTEM, AND THAT IS RELATED TO OUR MEDICAL CONTROL, UM, AND OUR EDUCATION SERVICES AS WELL FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS, PARTICULARLY THE, THE EMS TEAM.
UM, ITEM G IS RELATED TO, UM, GIVING SOME OF OUR PRIVATE ACTIVITY BOND AUTHORITY AS THROUGH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY.
THAT ORGANIZATION OF WHICH DESOTO IS A MEMBER, NEEDS APPROVAL FROM THE CITY COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT AUTHORITY OVER TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND HOUSING AND COMMUNITY.
UH, AND THEN ITEM H IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING NOW FOR A COUPLE YEARS IN A ROW, AND THIS IS RELATED TO THE, UH, 2023 ANNUAL SERVICE PLAN, UPDATE AND ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE DANIEL DALE HOMESTEAD PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
THAT'S OUR PI, UH, THAT WE HAVE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN.
UH, ALONG WITH, UH, EVERY YEAR AS THE, UH, AS THE TAXABLE VALUES OF PROPERTIES GET UPDATED, OWNERSHIPS GET UPDATED, YOU NEED TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT, YOU MAKE NEED TO MAKE AN UPDATE TO THE ANNUAL SERVICE PLAN.
UH, SO THAT IS AN ANNUAL PROCESS THAT WE'RE, THAT WE HAVE ON THE, THE AGENDA.
UH, WE DO HAVE HUG TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING.
THE FIRST ONE IS RELATED TO A MEDICAL CLINIC THAT IS, UH, DESIRING TO BE INSTALLED INSIDE, UH, CONSTRUCTED INSIDE OF THE EXISTING WALMART.
AND THEN ITEM NUMBER TWO IS RELATED TO A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS LOOKING TO GO.
UM, THIS IS BETWEEN, UH, IT'S ON WINTERGREEN, IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF, OF WINTERGREEN ROAD.
IN BETWEEN WESTMORELAND AND OLD HICKORY.
UH, THERE'S A LARGE VACANT FIELD THERE, AND IT'S FOR THE RE UH, FOR THE REZONING POTENTIALLY OF THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
UH, AS WE GET TO ITEM H UM, ON HERE, WHICH IS OUR REGULAR AGENDA, THEN WE TAKE
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A LOOK AT THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS, UH, THE SANITATION SERVICES CONTRACT WITH REPUBLIC SERVICES.SO WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS, UM, ABOUT THE DESIRED SERVICE LEVEL FOR, UH, FOR GARBAGE SERVICE GOING INTO THE NEXT YEAR, WHICH BEGINS JUNE 1ST, 2024.
UH, THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION BOTH FROM THE STEERING, FROM THE AD HOC GROUP THAT MET WITH THIS AS WELL, AS WELL AS STAFF, UM, TO, UH, SIGN THAT CONTRACT OVER TO, UH, CONTINUE THAT CONTRACT WITH REPUBLIC, BUT ALSO WITH SOME ENHANCEMENTS.
WE'LL DESCRIBE THOSE A LITTLE BIT LATER ON IN THE MEETING.
ITEMS TWO AND THREE ARE BOTH RELATED TO THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THE TAX RATE PROCESS.
FIRST ONE IS APPROVING OUR, UM, APPRAISAL ROLE THAT'S, UH, BEEN PROVIDED TO US BY DCA, THE DELL CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
AND NUMBER THREE IS RELATED TO TAKING A RECORD VOTE ON OUR PROPOSED TAX RATE OF, UH, 0.6 8 5 0 9 2.
AND THAT'S 68 CENTS, ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT AND A HALF CENTS PER A HUNDRED DOLLARS OF TAXABLE VALUATION.
UH, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, THIS EVENING AS WELL.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THE AGENDA ITEMS, I CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE THOSE AT THIS TIME.
COUNSEL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS REGARDING THE REVIEW OF THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS? YES, COUNCILWOMAN CHISHOLM.
UM, MR. WRIGHT, REGARDING THE, UM, THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM OF 2023, IS THIS TO TAKE CARE OF ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT ARE LEFT WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR? AND DOES THIS, UM, BRING THE PD WHOLE, OR ARE WILL THEY STILL BE DOWN, UM, VEHICLES AND IF SO, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY? UH, SO I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY IF, IF THIS IS ALL THE PURCHASES OFF OF, OFF OF THE CURRENT YEAR LIST, UM, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET A, AN UPDATE FROM JOE, UM, FOR, BUT WE ARE BUYING PURCHASE, WE ARE BUYING VEHICLES THAT ARE ON OUR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT LIST FOR THIS YEAR, UM, FOR THAT.
SO EVERY YEAR WE PLAN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF VEHICLES, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T REPLACE 'EM ALL IN ONE YEAR, BUT, BUT WE REPLACE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THEM.
THIS, THESE ONES ARE ON THAT LIST.
AND JOE, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE.
GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.
SO, UH, THIS IS IN OUR REPLACEMENT.
SO AS CARS BECOME OLDER OR THEY GET DAMAGED AND THEY GET REPLACED, THESE ARE REPLACING SOME OF THOSE, THESE ARE NOT ADDING ANYMORE TO THE FLEET MAYOR COUNCIL, I ALSO WANTED TO ADD THE WAY THAT FUND WORKS, UM, FUNDS, IF THEY ARE CARRIED OVER, THEY'RE NOT LOST LIKE A GENERAL FUND, IT CONTINUES TO CARRY OVER.
WE STILL HAVE SOME FUNDS THAT WERE APPROVED IN LAST FISCAL YEAR THAT ARE STILL SET UP THERE THAT WE STILL HAVE TO DO.
THE GENERAL FUND WILL TRANSFER THOSE FUNDS TO THE FOUR 20 ACCOUNT, AND IT ALLOWS US TO PURCHASE IT WHEN THAT VENDOR HAS THOSE VEHICLES.
THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN CHISHOLM.
COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS REGARDING THE REGULAR AGENDA? YES.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, THE POLICE CARS IS WHEN THEY REPLACE THE CARS, DO THEY REPLACE THEM? I KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE OUTFITTING.
SO ALL THE STUFF THAT'S ON A VEHICLE DOESN'T, IT GOES WITH THE VEHICLE.
SO WHEN IT'S REPLACED, THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN BE REMOVED FROM THERE AND ADDED TO A, UH, A NEW VEHICLE.
SO THERE, UH, THERE ARE SOME, UH, THINGS THAT CAN BE REPLACED FOR, UH, THAT CAN BE, UH, BROUGHT FROM ONE VEHICLE TO ANOTHER.
WE STRIP 'EM OUT, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT, AND THEN WE HAVE TO PAY SOMEBODY TO OUTFIT 'EM.
SO IT'S, WE BUY THE CARS AND THEN WE HAVE TO OUTFIT THEM.
EVEN IF WE'RE USING OUR OWN EQUIPMENT, THERE'S STILL A COST TO OUTFIT THEM WITH RADIOS, WITH LIGHTS, WITH SIRENS, WITH, WITH EVERYTHING.
SOME THINGS WE CAN CARRY OVER.
UH, WHEN THEY GET TO BE 10, 15 YEARS OLD, THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT REPLACING THEM.
WE'RE, UH, BUYING NEW IN-CAR CAMERAS NOW, SO WE HAVE TO REPLACE THOSE WITH THE NEW ONES AND, AND ADD IN NEW IN-CAR CAMERAS.
AND THE, UM, THE AGENDA ITEM FOR THE OUTFITTING, IT DIDN'T SAY CAMERAS, BUT YOU'RE SAYING NO, SO IT DOESN'T INCLUDE CAMERAS.
WELL, YEAH, IF, IF WE CAN BRING THOSE CAMERAS OVER, WE WILL.
WE'VE ALREADY BOUGHT THE CAMERAS, SO IT'LL BE TO INSTALL THEM.
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN PARKER.
UH, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? OKAY, HEARING NONE.
[3. Presentation and discussion of potential crime reduction regulations for businesses to undertake certain security measures]
HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.NEXT WE HAVE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF POTENTIAL CRIME REDUCTION REGULATIONS FOR BUSINESSES TO UNDERTAKE CERTAIN SECURITY MEASURES.
MAKING THAT PRESENTATION IS JOKE OR FEED A CITY ATTORNEY JUST WAITING FOR, WE, WE EXECUTE BEFORE TIME, SO, SO WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION, UH, TO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL AS IT RELATES TO THIS.
AND SO ONCE WE WORK OUT OUR TECHNICAL GLITCH, WE MAY SEE THE PRESENTATION OR MAY NOT.
YOU WANNA DO AN INTRODUCTION? UH, SURE.
SO, UM, SO AS COUNCILWOMAN CHISHOLM HAD REQUESTED US TO, UH, DO SOME RESEARCH AND PRESENT, UH, SOME FINDINGS, UH, THAT
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WE HAVE RELATED TO, UH, TO CERTAIN TYPES OF SECURITY MEASURES THAT CAN BE TAKEN, UH, ON, ON CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES.UH, IN SOME CITIES, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS A LITTLE BIT IN IN JILL'S PRESENTATION, UM, FOR THIS, BUT SOME CITIES HAVE, UM, CERTAIN AN ORDINANCE THAT REGULATES A LITTLE BIT EXTRA ADDED SECURITY FOR THINGS LIKE CONVENIENCE STORES OR, UH, CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES LIKE SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES OR HOTELS, UM, FOR THAT.
SO OUR CITY ATTORNEY, JOE GRITA, HAS DONE SOME RESEARCH TO, UH, LOOK AT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT TYPES, TYPES OF PROGRAMS THEY HAVE IN PLACE, UM, FOR REVIEW AND FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT IS, UH, REALLY THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES AND THE REGULATIONS THAT APPLY TO THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
AND THE QUESTION THAT WAS PROPOSED IS, WHAT SECURE, WHAT ADDITIONAL SECURITY MEASURES COULD THE CITY IMPOSE ON CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES? SO SPECIFICALLY, WE LOOKED AT SECURITY CAMERAS BEING ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE MAIN, UM, UH, ONE OF THE MAIN MEASURES AS WELL AS, UH, SECU, YOU KNOW, WE IMPOSE ADDITIONAL SECURITY GUARDS OR POLICE OFFICERS DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF FACILITY, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF EVENT AND WHAT, WHAT OTHER TYPES OF MEASURES, UM, AND WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE.
AND ADDITIONALLY, WE CURRENTLY IN OUR CODE DO HAVE SOME SECURITY MEASURES IN PLACE FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF EVENTS.
UM, AND WE, WE'LL ALSO, UH, TOUCH ON THE, AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, FACILITIES OUR BUSINESSES ALREADY, AND WE'LL TOUCH ON THOSE AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.
SO REALLY, WHEN WE GET TO THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, WE JUST WANNA HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND GET DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL.
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN, IN FURTHER PURSUING THIS AND TAKING A LOOK AND MAKING A DETERMINATION.
ARE THERE ANY TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SECURITY REGULATIONS, WHAT THOSE BUSINESSES WOULD BE, WHAT THOSE REGULATIONS WOULD BE? UM, AND THEN I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO TAKE ONE STEP FURTHER AND THEN REALLY GET THE STATISTICS AND SEE, DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES AS IT RELATES TO CRIME? WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT? AS A HOME RULE CITY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY UNDER THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE TO PROVIDE REGULATIONS PROVIDED WE'RE NOT, UM, PROVIDED THAT THE STATE DOESN'T ALREADY REGULATE IN THAT AREA.
UM, SO AGAIN, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE JUSTIFICATION THERE TO REGULATE THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES AND THE TYPES OF SECURITY MEASURES THAT WE DO IMPOSE ON THESE BUSINESSES.
SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE TEXAS, TEXAS ORDINANCES, UH, CRIME AND THEN CRIME PREVENTION REGULATIONS, UM, FOR BUSINESSES.
SO REALLY WE HAVE A KIND OF THE OVERVIEW, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SURVEILLANCE AND PUTTING IN, PUTTING IN CAMERAS, UH, I'VE KIND OF LISTED THE TEXAS CITIES THAT HAVE DONE SO, AND THIS IS JUST A HANDFUL.
MOST OF THESE ORDINANCES YOU'RE GONNA SEE ARE VERY SIMILAR.
SO WE HAVE BRIAN, BRIAN, DALLAS, BRIAN, YOUR COLLEGE STATION, UH, DALLAS IRVING COLLEGE STATIONS ON THERE, HOUSTON.
UM, AS FAR AS BRIAN AND SWIN AND STAFFORD, ALSO, THEY REQUIRE CAMERAS.
ARE THESE BUSINESSES TO HAVE CAMERAS, UH, IN DALLAS, IRVING AND COLLEGE STATION.
THEY REQUIRE THE REGISTRATION OF THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES, AND ALSO THAT THE CAMERA FOOTAGE BE PROVIDED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT UPON THE REQUEST.
UM, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT REQUIREMENT, BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME, UM, CONCERNS AS FAR AS CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THESE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF A SURVEILLANCE CAMERA IS IN A PUBLIC PARKING LOT, WE'LL TAKE THE CONVENIENCE STORE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SAYS, HEY, WE, OR WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE, SAYS, YOU MUST PROVIDE US.
WE WANNA LOOK AT YOUR SURVEILLANCE.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THAT INFRINGES ON PEOPLE'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME, UM, ARTICLES AND SOME CHALLENGES TO THE HOUSTON ORDINANCE.
NOTHING REALLY HAS, HAS DEVELOPED AS IT RELATES TO THOSE AS OF NOW.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S REALLY NOT FOR US TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.
BECAUSE IF A BUSINESS DOES HAVE A CAMERA AS NOW, IF A BUSINESS HAS A CAMERA AND WE BELIEVE SOMETHING HAS OCCURRED, WE HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE.
WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE AND GET A WARRANT TO GET THAT, TO GET THAT VIDEO.
THE BIGGEST ISSUE YOU USUALLY SEE WITH THESE BUSINESSES IS THAT THEY DON'T KEEP THE, EITHER THE CAMERAS AREN'T WORKING OR THEY DON'T KEEP THE FOOTAGE FOR THE PERIOD OF TIME NECESSARY.
SO A LOT OF THESE ORDINANCES TRY TO ADDRESS THAT, UM, UH, ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
SO THEN ALSO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE ONSITE, UM, SECURITY PERSONNEL.
SO AS FAR AS, UM, SURVEILLANCE, WHAT IS IT, THE ACT OF OBSERVING OTHERS IN ORDER TO GATHER EVIDENCE? SURVEILLANCE IS ONE OF THE MOST COMMON METHODS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS USE TO INVESTIGATE SUSPECTS AND GATHER EVIDENCE THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE PERSON BEING, UH, SURVEILLANCE.
MANY OF THE PLACES WILL HAVE UP A SIGN THAT BASICALLY SAYING THAT THIS BUSINESS IS BEING, IS UNDER SURVEILLANCE TO PUT PEOPLE ON ON NOTICE.
UH, AS FAR AS FOURTH AMENDMENT, AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS, INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESSES AND LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS CANNOT CONDUCT, UH, CANNOT CONDUCT SURVEILLANCE WITHOUT LIMITS.
CONSTITUTIONALITY FOURTH AMENDMENT PROTECTS INDIVIDUALS FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES AND SEIZURES, AND THIS CAN PROTECT INDIVIDUALS, UM, INCLUDING ALLEGED SUSPECTS AND ALLEGED PERPETRATORS.
THAT WAS A CONCERN WITH, UH, THE HOUSTON ORDINANCE, IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REQUESTING IT, NOT HAVING THE PROBABLE CAUSE AND GET GOING THROUGH THE PROPER MEASURES, UM, UH, TO PROTECT, UH, PEOPLE'S, UH, UH, CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
AND AS FAR AS A WARRANT REQUIREMENT, UM, SOME SURVEILLANCE, SURVEILLANCE MAY REQUIRE A WARRANT.
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THAT HAVE NOT GONE THE, THAT HAVE NOT REQUIRED, UH, THAT THEY TURN OVER THE BY BY ORDINANCE REQUIRE THAT THEY TURN OVER THE SURVEILLANCE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHEN ASKED HAVE REALIZED THE SAME.AND I THINK IT'S THE SAME PLACE I AM RIGHT NOW, IS WE CAN GET THAT ANYWAY, AS LONG AS THEY'RE KEEPING IT, WE REQUIRE THAT THEY KEEP IT, UM, AND WE HAVE THE PROBABLE CAUSE TO GET IT, AND WE WILL HAVE THE PROBABLE CAUSE, UH, IF, IF NECESSARY.
SO HERE'S A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ORDINANCES.
UH, BRIAN, TEXAS, UH, THE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE.
AND THEN, UM, STAFFORD, TEXAS.
UH, SO WE HAVE A COUPLE, THEY HAVE CONVENIENCE STORES, UH, VIDEO SURVEILLANCE, UM, AND THEY HAVE STORAGE REQUIREMENTS.
SO THEY REQUIRE, AND FOR CONVENIENCE STORES, UM, IT'S VIDEO SURVEILLANCE IS REQUIRED AND THEY HAVE STORAGE REQUIREMENTS.
STORAGE REQUIREMENTS MEANS IT NEEDS TO BE KEPT FOR A PARTICULAR PERIOD OF TIME.
STAFFORD HAS HOTELS AND OTHER OVERNIGHT ACCOMMODATIONS, UM, SECURITY CAMERAS, UM, AND ALSO ALARM REQUIREMENTS.
SO IT'S NOT JUST SECURITY, BUT IT'S ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS TO REQUIRE ALARMS. UM, WHAT YOU'LL SEE ALSO IN A LOT OF THESE ORDINANCES, YOU KNOW, IN ORDINANCE YOU'LL EASILY SEE THE, WHEREAS CLAUSES, AND THEY SET FORTH THE REASONINGS AND THEY'RE PICKING THE PLACES THAT THEY'VE DETERMINED HAVE, UM, A HIGH AMOUNT OF CRIME OCCURRING, WHETHER IT'S, WHETHER IT'S THEFTS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S LOITERING IN THE PARKING LOT, WHICH LOITERING WE KNOW ISN'T REALLY A CRIME.
BUT, UM, SURVEILLANCE DOES HELP TO DETER PEOPLE FROM LO UH, LOITERING IN THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN A LOT OF THESE PARKING LOTS.
UH, THERE'S OTHER, UH, ORDINANCES THAT, THAT KIND OF LIMIT, UH, TO SPECIFIC BUSINESSES.
AGAIN, THE CONVENIENCE STORES, THE HOTELS, UH, WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS WHERE THE BUSINESSES ARE REQUIRED TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ONES THAT DON'T REQUIRE THEM TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT.
JUST REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE THE CAMERAS.
UM, AND THEN ALSO, AS, AS I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, SOME HAVE REQUIREMENTS THAT UPON REQUEST BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY NEED TO PROVIDE THE VIDEO FOOTAGE, UM, IN CONNECTION WHEN A CRIME IS BEING COMMITTED.
AND THEY DON'T, UH, DON'T DO IT WITH A WARRANT.
AND THEN THERE'S OTHER RECORDED, RECORDED, UH, SECURITY REQUIREMENTS, STORAGE, EMPLOYEE TRAINING, MONITORING, REPORTING TO OWNERS AND SO FORTH.
SO AS FAR AS DALLAS, DALLAS REQUIRES IT FOR CONVENIENCE STORES, UM, IRVING ALSO AS WELL AS, UH, COLLEGE STATION.
HERE'S, UH, SOME EXAMPLES OUT OF THE DALLAS ORDINANCE AS IT RELATES TO CONVENIENCE STORES.
AND IT IS LIMITED TO CONVENIENCE STORES, DEFINES WHAT A CONVENIENCE STORE IS, UH, WHICH ALSO GOES BACK AND, AND THEY DEFINE IT ALSO IN THEIR, IN THEIR ZONING CODE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THERE'S NO FEE FOR THE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT.
SAFETY REQUIREMENTS INCLUDE BOTH THE CAMERAS, THEIR REQUIRED SIGNAGE, UH, STORAGE OF THE VIDEO, UM, THE VIDEO SPECIFICATIONS, WHAT TYPE IT NEEDS TO BE.
ALSO REQUIRES ALARM SYSTEMS, EMPLOYEE MANAGEMENT TRAINING, DROP SAFES, UM, AND THEN ALSO TRESPASS AFFIDAVITS.
AS FAR AS PD REQUIREMENTS, A DIGITAL VIDEO RECORDING MUST BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE DIRECTOR, TO THE CHIEF, OR ANY OTHER PEACE OFFICER FOR REVIEWING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
A COPY OF A DIG DIGITAL VIDEO RECORDING MUST BE PROVIDED TO THE DIRECTOR, TO THE CHIEF, OR ANY OTHER PEACE OFFICER WITHIN SEVEN TWO HOURS AFTER BEING REQUESTED.
THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE DALLAS ORDINANCE.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S BEEN NO CHALLENGES TO IT.
SIMILAR LANGUAGE TO THE HOUSTON ORDINANCE.
AND THEN AGAIN, LIKE HOUSTON'S JUST HAD SOME, UM, SOME NEGATIVE PUBLICITY FROM THE, FROM THE, THE CIVIL RIGHTS GROUPS AS IT RELATES TO THIS SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT THAT YOU SEE DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM, IRVING.
UM, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE DALLAS ORDINANCE.
AGAIN, LIMITED TO CONVENIENCE STORES.
UH, SIMILAR DEFINITION, REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AGAIN, NO FEE SAVE SIMILAR CRI CRIME PREVENTION REQUIREMENTS OTHER THAN JUST THE CAMERAS, THE SIGNS, THE VIDEO SPECIFICATIONS, STORAGE, THE VIDEOS, HOW LONG THE STORE ALARM SYSTEMS TRAINING.
UM, AND AGAIN, THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY MENTION OF, UM, UM, AS FAR AS THE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS, THE OWNER SHALL PROVIDE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH DIGITAL COLOR IMAGES IN CONNECTION WITH CRIME INVESTIGATION UPON REQUEST.
UM, NO MENTION OF A DEADLINE TO FULFILL THAT REQUEST.
AND THEN THERE'S NO MENTION OF REQUIRING A WARRANT.
SO, AND THEN COLLEGE STATION, VERY SIMILAR.
I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO READ ALL OF THESE, BUT THEY TALK ABOUT CONVENIENCE STORES OR GAS STATIONS.
THEY ALSO, UH, UM, INCLUDE LIQUOR STORES, UH, NOT BEER AND WINE, BUT JUST, JUST TRUE LIQUOR STORES.
RETAIL BUSINESS SECURITY REQUIREMENTS INCLUDE, AGAIN, SAME OF THE SAMSUNG, SOME OF THE SAME STUFF THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE OTHER ONES.
AGAIN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE KIND OF SEEING REPETITIVE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY SIMILAR IN THESE CITIES AND WHAT THEY REQUIRE.
AND THEN THE REQUIREMENTS, UM, UH, TO REQUIRE FOOTAGE TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS.
HOUSTON, AGAIN, IT'S VERY SIMILAR.
UM, EXTERIOR CAMERAS, UH, IN, IN THE HOUSTON ONE.
AND THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT LARGER GROUP OF TYPES OF BUSINESSES, OBVIOUSLY HOUSTON BEING, UM, HAVING A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAN PROBABLY DESOTO HAS, HOPEFULLY NIGHTCLUBS, BARS, SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES, CONVENIENCE STORES, AND GAME ROOMS. SO I CAN KIND KEEP GOING ON HOUSTON.
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REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS.THEY ALSO HAVE, UH, CONVENIENCE STORES IN THERE.
SO, AND HOUSTON, IT JUST TALKS ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF THE NIGHTCLUBS BAR SEXUALLY OR A BUSINESS.
CONVENIENCE STORES AND GAME ROOMS. ALL RIGHT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF CLOSES OUT ON THE SECURITY CAMERAS.
ONSITE PERSONNEL, UH, UNABLE TO LI UH, TO IDENTIFY ANY SPECIFIC BUSINESSES, UM, THAT WERE REQUIRING ONSITE SECURITY PERSONNEL.
UM, HOWEVER, TODAY, UH, THERE ACTUALLY WERE SOME THAT WERE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, UM, BY COUNCIL, UH, WOMAN CHISHOLM.
AND THAT WAS, UH, SOME REGULATIONS, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN HOUSTON, CORRECT, FOR REQUIRING ONSITE, UH, SECURITY PERSONNEL FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES FOR THAT ARE BY, THAT ARE BYOB BUSINESSES.
UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT MAY BE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MAY HAVE A HOOKAH LOUNGE.
A HOOKAH LOUNGE MAY ALSO BE A-B-Y-O-B BUSINESS.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER, UH, WAYS THAT CITIES ARE ADDRESSING THOSE BUSINESSES THAT MAY BE A PRIMARILY ONE BUSINESS.
AND THEN THEY MAY BE A CIGAR BAR, WE'LL USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.
AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO ALLOWED TO BE A-B-Y-O-B.
BUT THEN THAT BYOB BECOMES PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE DRINKING AFTER HOURS.
'CAUSE, YOU KNOW, BUT STATE LAW ON SATURDAY OR SUNDAY MORNINGS, UH, ALCOHOL SALES HAVE TO END BY 1:00 AM BUT IF IT'S A-B-Y-O-B, PEOPLE CAN BE THERE LONGER.
AND SO IT REALLY TURNS MORE INTO MAYBE NOT THAT HOOKAH LOUNGE, BUT MORE OF A NIGHTCLUB TYPE ATMOSPHERE.
AND YOU HAVE THE PROBLEMS INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THAT COME ALONG WITH THE, THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
SO, UM, WE SEE SOME REQUIREMENTS NOW IN OTHER CITIES WHERE THEY'RE REQUIRING ALSO CERTAIN SECURITY PERSONNEL TO BE ON SITE FOR THOSE TYPES, FOR THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
AGAIN, NOT AWARE OF ANY BYOB BUSINESSES.
UM, AND THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR THE, THE POLICE CHIEF, IF WE HAVE A CONCERN WITH THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN CITIES, AGAIN, THAT WE'VE TALKED, WE, THERE'S A COUNCIL DISCUSSED, UH, THE APARTMENT INSPECTION SAFETY PROGRAMS BEFORE, AND THERE ARE, UH, APARTMENT, UH, OR THERE ARE, LIKE, HOUSTON FOR EXAMPLE, HAS AN APARTMENT SAFETY PROGRAM THAT IF YOU, IF YOU SCORE BELOW A CERTAIN NUMBER, THAT NOT ONLY YOU HAVE TO HAVE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SECURITY MEASURES, WHICH MAY INCLUDE, UH, HAVING SECURITY PERSONNEL, UM, UH, ON SITE.
SO JUST PUT IN THERE OUR HOME RULE CHARTER WHERE WE ARE.
AND THAT GIVES US THE POWERS TO PROVIDE THESE REGULATIONS PROVIDED WE'RE NOT PREEMPTED BY STATE LAW.
UM, SO AS FAR AS ONSITE SECURITY PERSONNEL, THE CITY MAY HAVE AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE CERTAIN BUSINESSES THAT HAVE A HIGH NUMBER OF PUBLIC SAFETY CALLS TO UNDERTAKE ADDITIONAL SECURITY MEASURES BASED ON THEIR RISK TO PUBLIC WELFARE SAFETY.
VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE IN A LOT OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT HAVE THE SECURITY, UH, MEASURES PROGRAMS. THEY HAVE A SCORE SHEET, AND ONCE THEY GET BELOW A CERTAIN SCORE, THAT SCORE IS BASED, UH, USUALLY ON THE NUMBER OF CALLS.
WHAT TYPES OF CALLS, UM, ARE BEING, ARE, ARE BEING, UH, RESPONDED TO AT THAT, AT THAT, UH, PLACE OF BUSINESS AS, UH, WELL AS NOT ONLY TYPES OF CALLS, BUT THERE MAY BE EVEN SOME CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES THAT CAN BE, UM, BROUGHT INTO THAT SCORE SHEET.
THAT'S WHAT YOU NORMALLY SEE WITH APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
AS FAR AS OUR ORDINANCES CURRENTLY, WE DO REQUIRE OFF-DUTY PEACE OFFICERS AT THE TEEN CLUBS.
WE, WE DEFINE WHAT, WHAT THE TEAM CLUBS ARE AT THE INDOOR SPORTS FACILITIES AND AT ENTERTAINMENT VENUES.
SO WE HAVE A DEFINITION FOR ALL OF THOSE.
AND THEN, UM, CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MANY LARGE BUSINESSES THAT ALREADY HAVE SECURITY PERSONNEL AND ANTI-THEFT SYSTEMS. UM, AND ACCORDING TO THE CITY, ADDING ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS, UH, OF ADDING ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SECURITY PERSONNEL WOULD NOT ANTICIPATE A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS THAT WOULD STILL NEED TO BE, UH, TO RESPOND.
THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR THE POLICE CHIEF TO ANSWER, BUT, UH, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU HAVE SECURITY PERSONNEL, THEY ARE STILL CALLING THE POLICE TO RESPOND 'CAUSE OF THEIR LIMITED AUTHORITY.
UM, IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S, THERE'S ANY TYPE OF CRIME AFOOT AT THE PREMISE, SO, AND I JUST PUT IT IN HERE, THIS IS THE, UH, WHERE THE, SOME OF THE CITIES HAVE DRAWN FIRE FROM THE CIVIL LIBERTIES GROUPS FOR THE ORDINANCES THAT REQUIRE BARS AND CONVENIENCE STORES TO INSTALL SECURITY CAMERAS AND SHARE THE DATA WITH POLICE WITHOUT A WARRANT.
AGAIN, THAT'S NOT A HUGE CONCERN TO ME.
'CAUSE IF WE DO GO THE ROUTE, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN GET A WARRANT IF NEED BE.
IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT TO DO.
UM, TO GET THE SECURITY FOOTAGE.
THE KEY IS MAKING SURE THAT THEY KEEP THAT SECURITY FOOTAGE.
UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MOST RECENT, UH, HOUSE BILL THAT PASSED 21, UH, 21, 27, IS, IS THIS REALLY AN UNFUNDED MANDATE ON, ON BUSINESSES? UM, IS IT JUSTIFIED? BUT AGAIN, MY POSITION IS AS A HOME RULE CITY, WE DO, UM, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REGULATE THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE UNTIL THE STATE TELLS US WE CAN'T.
WE STILL HAVE, WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO SUCH.
SO AS FAR AS DISCUSSION FOR COUNCIL, IS THERE A DESIRE TO ESTABLISH ANY TYPE OF SECURITY ASSISTANCE, SECURITY SURVEILLANCE, CAMERAS, INTERIOR EXTERIORS, UH, ORDINANCE FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES? WHAT ARE THOSE BUSINESSES? CONVENIENCE STORES, HOTELS,
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OTHERS? AGAIN, IT MAY BE, IF WE WANT TO GO DOWN THIS ROUTE, IT MAY BE WORTH BRINGING BACK SOME STATISTICS TO LOOK AT, UH, TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE OUR BUSINESSES THAT ARE OUR CONCERN THAT WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT THIS FOR? UM, DESOTO HAS APPROXIMATELY 50 BUSINESSES NOW THAT WE QUALIFY UNDER THE CONVENIENCE STORE, GAS STATION DEFINITION.UH, IS THERE A DESIRE TO ESTABLISH ONSITE SECURITY PERSONNEL FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES? AND THEN FUTURE STAFFING CONSIDERATIONS IF THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES ADDED TO NEW PROGRAMS IS GREATER THAN THE CURRENT CAPACITY DISCUSSION? WE DO IT AGAIN.
UM, I'M GONNA REQUEST A FIVE MINUTE RECESS, UH, SO THAT I CAN GET, UM, SOME LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING A MATTER BEFORE WE PROCEED.
UM, WE'LL BE BACK AT 6:31 PM THANK YOU.
IT IS 6:31 PM AND WE WILL RESUME, UH, OUR MEETING, UH, COUNCILWOMAN.
RAPHAEL, UH, DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? SURE THING.
UM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS, THIS FORWARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, CITY MANAGER, RIGHT? ACTUALLY, JOE CAPTA, UH, CITY ATTORNEY CAPTA.
UH, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO, TO SEE THE DATA AND KNOW THE DATA, UM, OF, OF A FEW THINGS ARE HIGH AMONGST THE CONVENIENCE STORES, HOTELS, CLUBS, NIGHTCLUBS, UH, EVENT CENTERS, UM, TO HAVE SOME DATA, YOU KNOW, RELATED TO IT.
UM, WHAT I'VE FOUND OVER THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF, AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF, OF, UH, VENUES WHERE, UH, EVENT CENTERS, AND OFTENTIMES THOSE EVENT CENTERS HAVE BEEN USED AS WHAT EQUATES TO A NIGHTCLUB WITH WHERE, YOU KNOW, UNUSUAL THINGS HAPPEN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE AS A CITY, YOU KNOW, SAID LIKE WE DIDN'T WANT, BUT THEY DO HAPPEN.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT THAT DATA AND THOSE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE.
UM, I DO LIKE, UM, HAVING, UM, THE OPTION OF HAVING THE, THE, THE MANDATORY CAMERAS WITH CONNECTED PARTICULARLY TO THE CONVENIENCE STORES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, PARTICULARLY THOSE, UM, THAT SELL, YOU KNOW, OTHER PARAPHERNALIA AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, UM, IN THE, IN A COMMUNITY, UH, WHERE I WORK IN DALLAS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY PROSECUTORS ARE, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO GO, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK, LOOK TO CERTAIN BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN NUISANCE PROPERTIES.
AND SO THERE ARE SOME CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE PUT ON THOSE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE, HAVE SHOWN THEMSELVES TO BE NUISANCE PROPERTIES.
AND SO, DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY WE GO, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE, UH, A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE LOOK AT NUISANCE PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT OR A CERTAIN LEVEL.
BUT, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE DATA, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE, LIKE TO HEAR FROM COUNCILWOMAN CHISHOLM, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS THE IMPETUS THAT, YOU KNOW, ROSE THIS TO, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THIS FORWARD? THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN RAPHAEL, UM, COUNCILWOMAN CHISHOLM.
UM, UH, SO, UH, LAST YEAR, ACTUALLY, I THINK IT WAS AROUND LAST SUMMER, UM, I, I MET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY, UM, MANAGER AND THE MAYOR ABOUT THIS ITEM.
UM, AND IT WAS SPARKED AFTER, UH, THE BH LOUNGE, UH, MURDER THAT HAPPENED WHERE THE OFF-DUTY SECURITY GUARD WAS SHOT AND KILLED.
AND THE PERSON WHO DID IT WAS CLEARLY HAD DRUNK TOO MUCH, UM, AND WAS BELLIGERENT, WOULDN'T LEAVE.
AND I JUST IMMEDIATELY STARTED THINKING, YOU KNOW, HOW DO THEY SOLVE FOR THIS? NOW THE IRONY OF IT IS THAT HE HAD AN ACCIDENT IN GLEN HEIGHTS AND THEY WERE ABLE TO CATCH HIM AND TIE IT TOO.
AND THE BLESSING IS THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WORKS REALLY HARD, YOU KNOW, TO SOLVE CRIMES LIKE THIS.
BUT WHEN I, WHEN I STARTED TAKING A MORE GLOBAL LOOK AROUND, JUST NOT MY COMMUNITY, UM, BUT ALSO JUST AROUND THE CITY, UM, WE HAVE A, A, A, A LARGE POPULATION OF, UH, MAYBE WRONG TERM, WE HAVE MORE THAN WHAT I WOULD DEFINITELY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH OF GAME ROOMS OR CONVENIENCE STORES THAT ARE DOING ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.
I KNOW, UM, AT THE TIME, MAYOR PRO TEM BIRD, UH, WORKED HEAVILY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO SOLVE ONE FOR, IN HIS COMMUNITY TO, UH, SHUT IT DOWN FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE OF THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.
UH, I, I'M BLESSED ENOUGH TO HAVE QUITE A FEW BARS ON MY SIDE OF TOWN TOO, THAT OFTEN HAVE LOITERING OR, UM, UM, JUST ACTIVITY IN THE MIDDLE AND HOURS.
AND THEN I SEE VIRAL VIDEOS GOING ABOUT, AND THEN THAT'S THE IMAGE THAT PEOPLE SEE OF DESOTO.
AND THAT'S JUST NOT, TO ME, A REPRESENTATION OF US.
UM, I'M OF THE AGE THAT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, NIGHTLIFE IS FUN, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD.
BUT THERE'S A, FOR A COMMUNITY LIKE OURS THAT'S A SUBURB COMMUNITY, A QUIET COMMUNITY, A BEDROOM COMMUNITY, THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE BUS BUSINESSES HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL, AND NOT JUST LEAVE IT ALL FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY TO SOLVE FOR.
SO I, I SEE IT MORE LIKE A PARTNERSHIP FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
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AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUES THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE, WHAT BUSINESSES CAUSES THE MOST NUISANCE.I WAS EVEN, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WALMART, WHICH IS IN MY DISTRICT AS WELL, AND IT'S A REVOLVING DOOR OF JUST STOLEN, LIKE CONSTANT THEFT.
AND THEN I'M LIKE, OKAY, SO WHY IS IT THAT IN SOME COMMUNITIES THEY HAVE SECURITY GUARDS, BUT THEN IN OURS, YOU KNOW, OUR POLICE ARE THEIR SECURITY, YOU KNOW, TO SOME EXTENT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THEY'RE CONSTANTLY GOING BACK AND FORTH.
SO THAT WAS MORE SO MY REASONING FOR IT.
UM, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE TO PASS IT ON TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COALITION, WHICH I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT.
AND, UM, I HAVE TRIED TO MY BEST TO CHAMPION IN EVERY WAY BEYOND JUST WHAT I'VE BEEN ASSIGNED TO.
SO, UM, I, IT DIDN'T COME OUT OF THE UPDATES THAT WE HAD, SO I BROUGHT IT, I I WANTED TO BRING IT BEFORE THE COUNCIL SO THAT WE COULD DISCUSS AND TALK ABOUT IF THERE'S A NEED.
I DO REALIZE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT THERE'S ALWAYS THIS SCARE OF ARE WE OVER SURVEILLANCING OUR, OUR COMMUNITY? AND, UM, I DON'T DEFINITELY DON'T WANT THAT TO BE THE TAKEAWAY.
UM, I THINK THAT HAVING ACCOUNTABILITY FROM BUSINESSES TO BE A PART OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, INITIATIVES IS, IS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN KIND OF DETER SOME OF THE UNNECESSARY CRIME THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
THIS IS A GOOD MEASURE TO, UH, BEGIN TALKING ABOUT.
I DO WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT THE RESEARCH.
WHEN YOU HAD THE RESEARCH, I DIDN'T SEE ANY THAT WERE IN THE TWO MILE RADIUS OR THE RADIUS OF DESOTO.
IS THAT MEANING THAT NONE OF THEM HAVE CAMERA ORDINANCES OR WHEN YOU SAY YOU SAY A TWO MILE RADIUS? WELL, DALLAS, DALLAS DOES, BUT AS, AS FAR AS THE OTHER, LIKE LANCASTER, UM, UH, DUNCANVILLE, THE ONES THAT ARE COMPARABLE TO THE CITY SIZE, THEY DO NOT.
BUT FOR DALLAS AND THEIR ACTUAL ORDINANCES, DO THEY HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH ANY OF THESE BUSINESSES WHERE IT'S AFTER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF OCCURRENCES THAT THEY HAVE THIS ORDINANCE GO INTO EFFECT, OR, I DIDN'T SEE THAT AT ALL.
NO, IT, IT'S, IT'S A, IT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE, THE SECURITY CAMERAS.
AND THEN WHAT IS THE, UH, WHAT IS THE, UH, RAMIFICATIONS IF THEY DON'T? UH, IT'S A PENALTY OF, OF FINE.
I BELIEVE IT'S A $2,000 A DAY FINE WHEN OH, IT'S A FINE.
AND SO SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO POLICE THAT? CORRECT.
THE POLICE, WELL, I MEAN, YEAH, BUT I'M SAYING, SO THAT MEANS THERE WOULD BE SOME IMPACT TO THE CITY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY DOING THAT THING.
SO IF THEY NEVER, IF THEY NE IF THE CAMERAS ARE NEVER ASKED FOR, YOU NEVER KNOW THAT THEY DID IT, OR, WELL, AND THAT'S WHY A LOT OF THEM HAVE A RA, UH, HAVE A REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT.
SO THEY REQUIRE, NUMBER ONE, THE BUSINESS TO REGISTER.
THAT WAY THEY CAN KEEP TRACK OF WHAT BUSINESS IS REQUIRED, IS REQUIRED TO HAVE IT, AND THAT THAT'S THE WAY THAT THEY DO IT.
SO IT WOULD BE A PENALTY NOT TO REGISTER THE BUSINESS, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY A PENALTY NOT TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF, OF PUT A PLACE IN THE SECURITY CAMERAS AND IF IT, IF IT'S ONE OF THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
AND THEN LASTLY, INSIDE OF THOSE ORDINANCES, THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN ACTUAL TIMEFRAME.
AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, CAMERAS ARE EXPENSIVE.
THEY, YOU KNOW, THE UPKEEP OF A CAMERA IS EXPENSIVE, AND THAT MAY BE THE REASON WHY BUSINESSES DON'T PUT THEM IN PLACE.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT IT WOULD COME BACK ON THE CITY TO MAKE THE REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO HOLD THAT DATA FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME STORED SOMEWHERE? YEAH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE, WE'D HAVE TO, AND, AND THE, THE AMOUNT OF TIMES ARE ALL THE CITIES ARE DIFFERENT ON WHAT THAT TIME IS FROM, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS TO A YEAR TO, YOU KNOW, SO MANY MONTHS.
UM, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, CAMERAS ARE A LOT DIFFERENT NOW, PROBABLY WHEN THESE ORDINANCES, IF WERE IMPLEMENTED.
RIGHT? SO AS FAR AS STORAGE GOES, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THAT REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME WAS, AND WE'D WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THAT.
AND WOULD WE BE THE ONES CHOOSING THE CAMERAS? NO.
YEAH, SOME OF 'EM GET INTO THE TYPE OF, THE TYPE OF, UM, FOOTAGE THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S REQUIRED.
SO THAT SORT OF DICTATES WHAT TYPE OF CAMERA OR YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THAT THEY, THAT THEY NEED.
THEY CAN'T GO GET IT, JUST A ONE THAT'S NOT GONNA PROVIDE IT WITH, UH, FOOTAGE THAT'S GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO, UM, SEE.
AND, AND SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT WITH OUR, WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT THIS, AND CHIEF COSTA, YOU KNOW ABOUT IT, THE, THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY KIND OF WANT THAT FOOTAGE TO BE AROUND WOULD BE AT LEAST ABOUT 30 DAYS, 30 DAYS BEFORE THAT JUST, JUST BE, BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME IT TAKES FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE HAVEN'T PASSED ANYTHING.
SOMETIMES WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY BETWEEN REPORTING OF CRIME AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT VIDEO WOULD BE AVAILABLE.
UM, THERE ALSO ISN'T MUCH CONCERN THAT WE WOULD HAVE ABOUT, UM, ABOUT NOT OBTAINING A WARRANT FOR THAT INFORMATION.
UH, SO SOME OF THE CITIES THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN TELL THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THE INFORMATION WITHOUT A WARRANT.
UH, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A STRONG CONCERN ABOUT OBTAINING A WARRANT FIRST.
UM, FOR THAT, THAT HASN'T BEEN AN ISSUE FOR US.
UH, OTHER CITIES MAY HAVE THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES.
UH, SO THE OBTAINING A WARRANT TO SEE THE VIDEO, UH, WE BELIEVE WOULD BE FINE FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WOULD NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEIR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO PRO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO
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INVESTIGATE A CRIME.DID YOU HAVE A COMMENTS, A QUESTION? I, I, I, THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR.
UH, COUNCILWOMAN RAPHAEL ACTUALLY STOLE MY THUNDER.
UH, I DO CONCUR WITH HER THAT, UM, DATA IS GONNA BE THE DRIVING FORCE AS TO OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT INITIATIVE.
I'M ALL FOR PREVENTIVE MEASURES, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT WE MIGHT HAVE CUBBY HOLES AND PRIVATE LITTLE FUNCTIONS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AREAS WHERE PEOPLE ARE DOING THINGS THAT ARE UNFAVORABLE AND COULD ALSO HAVE A BAD IMPRESSION ON OUR CHILDREN.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I'M A LITTLE BIASED WHEN I SAY THAT I DON'T QUITE THINK IT'S EVENT CENTERS, SO I DON'T THINK I'D PUT MY FOCUS ON THAT, BUT I AM ALL FOR OTHER AREAS.
MAYOR PRO TEM HUGHES, COUNCILMAN BURKE, MAYOR PRO TEM HUGHES.
NO EVENT CENTERS AND NO CHURCHES, PLEASE.
I, I, I I I, I DO HAVE TO SAY THAT I, I SEE THE BENEFIT OF IT SIMPLY AS A DETERRENT.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID, UH, ON THE 35 AND PLEASANT RUN CORRIDOR IS, UH, UH, THE POLICE AND BRANDON PUT THAT TOWER UP THERE, AND IT REALLY HELPED AS A DETERRENT.
AND SO SOMETIME WHEN PEOPLE SEE CAMERAS, WHEN PEOPLE ENTER IN, UH, ALSO A DETERRENT FROM BOTH, FROM BOTH SIDES, A DETERRENT FROM, FROM A CRIMINAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO A DETERRENT FROM A, UM, I SAY FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF LOW RENT IN OUR AREA, THE COST OF PUTTING THESE IN AND HAVING TO MAINTAIN THEM, IT MIGHT BE A DETERRENT THAT THEY MIGHT GO SOMEPLACE ELSE.
SO, UM, UH, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BAD DEAL.
SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE INFORMATION, GET SOME DATA ON IT, CERTAINLY.
COUNSEL, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? UM, I HAD A, I HAD A QUESTION IN, UH, CITY ATTORNEY GRAFFITI, YOU MAY HAVE A RESPONSE TO THIS CONSIDERING YOUR, UH, YOUR RESEARCH ON THESE PARTICULAR ORDINANCES IN TERMS OF HOW THEY DO THAT.
I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN RAPHAEL.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE DATA, UM, AS IT PERTAINS TO OUR CITY IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT SPECIFICALLY WHAT BUSINESSES, UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE A PART OF OUR ORDINANCE IN TERMS OF WHAT, WHO WE WOULD REQUIRE TO HAVE THESE.
UM, HOWEVER, I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON WHAT TYPES OF MECHANISMS DID CITIES THAT HAVE THESE ORDINANCES REQUIRING CAMERAS PUT IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT BUSINESSES KEEP THEIR CAMERAS IN WORKING ORDER? BECAUSE WHAT I, WHAT I, WHAT I FEEL LIKE, WHAT I CAN IMAGINE WE WOULD HEAR A LOT OF IS, OH, MY CAMERAS WEREN'T WORKING, SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE SOLVE FOR THAT? WELL, AND THE ORDINANCE REQUIRED, I MEAN, THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THEM TO, UH, TO BE WORKING.
SO OBVIOUSLY IF THEY'RE NOT WORKING, THEN THERE WOULD, THERE WOULD BE A, A FINE OR PENALTY.
WHAT I DON'T KNOW IS, I MEAN, THE ONE THING YOU DON'T WANNA DO IS FIND OUT THEY'RE NOT WORKING WHEN YOU NEED 'EM, RIGHT? SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF INSPECTION PROGRAM WHERE THEY GO CHECK ON A PERIODIC BASIS, THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE WORKING.
IF WE COULD GET MORE INFORMATION ON EXACTLY HOW, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF HOW DO THEY EVEN MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, IF, IF WE FIND OUT THEY'RE NOT WORKING, EVEN IF WE FIND THEM, IT STILL DOESN'T GIVE US THE FOOTAGE, RIGHT? SO LIKE, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THE CAMERAS ARE IN WORKING ORDER? AND I, I GUESS AGAIN, FOR ME, IT'S ALL GONNA BE ABOUT THE ROLLOUT OF IT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.
AND SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE TIME NEED TO LOOK LIKE FOR BUSINESSES TO COMPLY WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS? AND CONSIDERING THAT IT WOULD BE AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.
MAYOR PERAM, DID YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON? I WAS JUST GONNA SAY SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF HOW THEY, UM, INSPECT OUR, UM, FIRE EXTINGUISHERS BUILDING INSPECTION.
DID WE TALK ABOUT THAT TOO? THANK YOU.
REAL REALISTICALLY, IF WE WERE TO DO AN INSPECTION PROGRAM FOR IT, THAT WE WOULD ADD IT TO OUR ANNUAL LIST OF INSPECTIONS THAT, THAT WE DO, UM, FOR THAT PART.
SO, AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE, THE, THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT WE ADD TO THIS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART.
JUST REMEMBER KEEPING BACK OF OUR MINDS ABOUT STAFFING LEVELS AND THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ADD THOSE THINGS.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF CONVENIENCING AND GAS STORES THAT WE HAVE, THOSE, THOSE AREN'T VERY MANY.
AND IF WE'RE IN THEM ALREADY, THOSE, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO JUST KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON TOP OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
IF WE START ADDING KIND OF LARGE REGISTRATION PROCESS WHERE WE HAVE KIND OF LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT LEVEL OF, OF INTENSITY FOR STAFF, UM, ON, ON THAT SITE.
SO, SO ARE YOU, SO I GUESS WHAT I, WHAT I THINK I HEAR YOU SAYING IS SOMETHING LIKE THE, ALONG THE LINES OF IT, THE FIRE MARSHAL WAS ALREADY CONDUCTING AN INSPECTION, WHICH THEY DO, UM, FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES TO LOOK FOR CERTAIN THINGS THEY COULD ADD THAT TO, THEIR CHECKLIST IS TO VERIFY THAT THE CAMERAS ARE WORKING AT THAT TIME.
OR I WAS EVEN THINKING ABOUT KIND OF HOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STAFFING LEVELS, I GUESS HOW WE'VE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY OUTSOURCED OUR APARTMENT INSPECTIONS TO A COMPANY, UM, TO EVEN LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.
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JUST AGAIN, I GUESS WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY WAS THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES LIKE THAT, BUT AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE THE DATA AND THE NUMBERS TO SEE EXACTLY HOW MANY BUSINESSES WILL WE BE TALKING ABOUT, UM, AND WHERE THEY ARE THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN TERMS OF THAT, AS FAR AS THAT GOES.THAT'S WHY WE, WE DID PULL THE DATA, UM, FOR KIND OF THOSE CONVENIENCE AND GAS STATION STORES ON IT.
UM, AND THEN HOTELS, WE HAVE ABOUT 10, UH, FOR THAT.
SO IF YOU, IF, IF, AND, AND IF YOU WERE TO ASK, IF YOU WERE TO ASK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH ONES ARE THE, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE WHOLE, THE, THE DATA PART, THE OTHER PART IS JUST ASK, YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF ANECDOTALLY, WHICH ONES DO, DO YOU SEE THE MOST, UH, ISSUES AT? HIS RESPONSE IS, YOU KNOW, THE HOTELS AND IT'S THE CONVENIENCE STORES.
AND WHAT ABOUT APARTMENTS? UM, A APART APARTMENTS TWO, BUT DIFFERENT.
IT'S, IT, THE, THE THE, THE THE THE REASONS FOR IT ARE, ARE DIFFERENT, ARE DIFFERENT, RIGHT? IT, IT, IT'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF CRIMES THAT ARE OCCURRING THERE.
THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE, WE'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE KIND OF STUFF THAT HAPPENS EITHER INSIDE THE STORE OR OUTSIDE THE STORE IMMEDIATELY, THAT WHERE CRIME OCCURS AND YOU OR YOU HAVE A REPORT OF CRIME, AND THEN JUST NOTHING AROUND THOSE CAMERAS TO BE ABLE TO REALLY PINPOINT WHAT HAPPENED.
AND FOR APARTMENTS, WHAT YOU SEE MOST CITIES DOING IS NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE AN APARTMENT, THEREFORE YOU MUST HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS.
BUT IT'S PART OF A PROGRAM, UM, IF THEY'RE PUT INTO THAT PROGRAM BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY ARE HAVING ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT, BUT OF COURSE, ONCE THAT DATA IS FULL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO SEE WHERE THE ISSUES ARE.
SO, MM-HMM,
UM, AND I KNOW THAT FLOCK SAFETY IS NOT NECESSARILY CAMERAS PER SE, BUT HAS THE CITY EVER THOUGHT IN TERMS OF THAT KIND OF PARTNERSHIP, INSTEAD OF HAVING THE BUSINESS ITSELF PUT THE CAMERA OUT, PUT THE FLOCK SAFETY IN THERE AND HAVE THEM PAY FOR IT, UH, HAS THAT EVER COME UP AS A PART OF ANY OF THESE DISCUSSIONS? GOTCHA.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY.
AS WE KNOW, THERE IS NO ACTION, UH, ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT.
HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO GET A CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL REGARDING, I, I BELIEVE I KNOW WHAT THAT CONSENSUS IS, BUT I'LL, I'LL START WITH YOU.
UM, IN TERMS OF BRINGING THIS ITEM BACK FOR MORE DISCUSSION, I, I'M AGREEMENT COUNCILWOMAN CHISHOLM? YES.
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE THE DATA ON THE NUISANCE, UH, BUSINESSES COUNCILWOMAN PARKER.
SO WE HAVE, UM, UNANIMOUS CONSENSUS.
AT THIS TIME, UH, THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA FOR OUR WORK SESSION.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MARK, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUGHES TO ADJOURN OUR MEETING.
THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED FROM OUR WORK SESSION AT 6:47 PM COUNSEL, WE WILL BE BACK HERE AT 7:00 PM SHARP TO START OUR REGULAR MEETING.
[B. REGULAR SESSION - CALL TO ORDER]
EVENING, EVERYONE.IT IS NOW 7:00 PM AND I WANT TO CALL OUR REGULAR MEETING OF THE DESOTO CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.
UM, AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK OUR CITY SECRETARY IF SHE WOULD GIVE US A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
COUNCIL MEMBER NICOLE RAPHAEL.
COUNCIL MEMBER DYNA MARKS HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CRYSTAL CHISHOLM HERE.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.
FIRST, WE'LL HAVE OUR INVOCATION BY FATHER DAVID MILLER, WITH RECTOR OF SAINT ANNE EPISCOPAL CHURCH, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER DYNA MARKS.
IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND, LET US PRAY.
OUR GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE GIVE YOU THANKS THIS EVENING FOR BEING ABLE TO GATHER TOGETHER AND DO THE BUSINESS OF THIS CITY.
I PRAY FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS CITY, THAT YOU WOULD LEAD THEM AND DIRECT THEM ACCORDING TO YOUR WILL, THAT THEY WOULD, UM, WORK FOR THIS CITY, NOT FOR THEIR OWN AGGRANDIZEMENT, BUT FOR YOUR SAKE.
FOR THOSE WHO ARE PRESENTING PROPOSALS THIS EVENING, I PRAY THAT IT WOULD BE DONE FOR YOUR HONOR AND YOUR GLORY.
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THANK YOU FATHER MILLER, FOR TAKING YOUR THE TIME TO COME AND PRAY OVER OUR MEETING TONIGHT.UM, AS WELL AS DR. MARKS, THANK YOU FOR LEADING US IN OUR PLEDGES.
UM, AT THIS TIME WE'LL HAVE OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
[C. ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST]
NEXT WE'LL MOVE INTO ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.0415.THE CITY COUNCIL MAY REPORT ON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, EXPRESSION OF THANKS, CONGRATULATIONS, OR CONDOLENCES INFORMATION ABOUT HOLIDAY SCHEDULES, RECOGNITION OF INDIVIDUALS, REMINDERS ABOUT UPCOMING CITY COUNCIL EVENTS, INFORMATION ABOUT COMMUNITY EVENTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS INVOLVING IMMINENT THREATS TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, AS WELL AS ANY LIAISON UPDATES.
UH, CITY SECRETARY THOMAS AT THIS TIME.
COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, ITEMS? YES.
UH, SCHOOL HAS STARTED AND WE JUST WANT TO WISH STUDENTS AND TEACHERS EVERYWHERE A VERY PRODUCTIVE AND SUCCESSFUL YEAR.
AND THANK YOU TO DESOTO AREA CHAMBER AND THE DESOTO, ISV FOR THE C AND TASTE, WHICH WAS HELD AUGUST 5TH.
ON, UH, MARK YOUR CALENDARS FOR SEPTEMBER 9TH, THE CORY BARNER DAY, WHICH WILL BE AT LER PARK 4 0 5 EAGLE DRIVE.
MARK YOUR CALENDAR FOR SEPTEMBER 14TH FROM SIX TO 8:00 PM AT THE DESOTO HIGH SCHOOL.
THE AAA EXPERIENCE WILL BE A COLLEGE AND CAREER FAIR.
AND THEN SEPTEMBER 16TH WILL BE OUR HISPANIC HERITAGE FESTIVAL, AND YOU CAN REGISTER FOR THAT ON DESOTO EVENTS.EVENTBRITE.COM.
THAT IS ALL I HAVE, MADAM MAYOR.
UM, I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE, UM, I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE AS SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH ME THIS SUMMER, WHILE WE'VE HAD OUR SUMMER BREAK, UH, I TOOK A LEAP OF FAITH KNOWING THAT I NEEDED HELP, UH, JUST WITH ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES.
SO I HIRED AN INTERN AND I WOULD LIKE HER TO STAND UP.
ABIGAIL BOOKER, WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND? AW.
ABIGAIL IS A GRADUATE, GRADUATE, RECENT GRADUATE OF DESOTO HIGH SCHOOL, 2023.
SHE'S ALSO WORKED HERE AT THE CITY BEFORE.
UM, SHE'S GOING TO TWU, UH, TECH, THAT'S TEXAS WOMEN'S CO, UH, COLLEGE UNIVERSITY, EXCUSE ME.
AND SHE WILL BE MAJORING IN ENGLISH.
SHE WISHES TO BE A LIBRARIAN ONE DAY, BUT ON THE SIDE, SHE'S GONNA HUSTLE, UM, AND WORK FOR A, FOR A PUBLIC SERVANT.
SO, UH, WE'RE SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
UH, SHE'S GONNA CONTINUE ON, UH, WORKING WITH ME, UH, PART-TIME WHILE SHE'S IN SCHOOL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, AND I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU FOR DOING A GREAT JOB THIS SUMMER.
LASTLY, I DO WANNA MAKE YOU, UH, WE HAVE A FULL ROOM AND I LOVE A FULL ROOM, UM, BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE WILLING AND ABLE BODIES THAT WOULD LOVE TO VOLUNTEER TO MAKE OUR CITY BETTER.
UH, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, RIGHT? WE HAVE PARKS AND BOARDS THAT BOARD NEED PEOPLE WITH ZEAL AND ZEST AND EXCITEMENT ABOUT DESOTO.
SO THURSDAY, AUGUST 17TH, UH, AT 5:00 PM HAVE YOUR APPLICATION IN.
YOU CAN FIND IT ON THE WEBSITE.
WE HAVE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AROUND, UM, THE TEXAS AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, LIBRARY BOARD, AND THE PARK BOARD.
ALWAYS YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN DESOTO.
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN CHISHOLM.
ANY OTHER DR. MARKS? THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, I DO HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS TO PUT FORTH.
ONE OF THEM IS KNIGHT OF SMOOTH JAZZ AND R AND B NATURAL CHANGE BAN.
IF YOU HAVE NOT HEARD NATURAL CHANGE, YOU NEED TO BE PRESENT ON AUGUST 26TH, SHOWTIME, 9:30 PM HERE AT THE DESOTO CORNER THEATER GENERAL ADMISSION IS ONLY $25.
AUGUST 26TH, I'M SORRY, AT NINE 30.
AND THE LAST ONE IS, DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER 2023.
THIS IS THE FIFTH ANNUAL EVENT TO TAKE PLACE ON FRIDAY, AUGUST 25TH FROM SIXTH UNTIL 9:00 PM MATURE ADULT PROM NIGHT.
GENERAL ADMISSION IS ONLY $20 PER PERSON, AND IT WILL BE HELD AT THE DESOTO CIVIC CENTER.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, ITEMS OF COMMUNITY INTEREST? OKAY, HEARING NONE.
I DO HAVE, UH, ONE ITEM MYSELF THAT I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE KEEPING IN
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THE FLOW OF COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM'S REMARKS REGARDING INTERNS.AND AGAIN, WE CONGRATULATE MS. BOOKER.
SHE HAS BEEN CLEANING HOUSE ON THESE OPPORTUNITIES.
SO WE, WE ALWAYS APPLAUD OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ON TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ANY OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY CAN TO ADVANCE THEIR SKILLS AS WELL AS TO MAKE SOME MONEY.
SO, UM, I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, OUR SUMMER COHORT FROM THE MAYOR'S INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
WE HAD A SUMMER COHORT OF INTERNS, WHICH OUR SUMMER, UH, COHORT IS ALWAYS OUR COLLEGE STUDENTS.
UM, AND SO WE HAD WINTER HARRIS AND JOEL ETTE.
UM, WINTER IS AT TCU, JOEL IS AT UNT.
UM, AND DURING THEIR INTERNSHIP, JOEL AND WINTER EMBARKED UPON A JOURNEY OF PROFESSIONAL GROWTH, MAKING A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE DESOTO TEAM.
THEY WORKED IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO FROM SITE VISITS TO COLD CALLS TO CONTENT CREATION TO MARKET ANALYSIS, THEY FEARLESSLY DIVED INTO VARIOUS PROJECTS, SHOWCASING THEIR DEDICATION AND ENTHUSIASM, INCLUDING COORDINATING THE YOUNG PROFESSIONALS FORUM.
UH, THROUGH THE YOUNG PROFESSIONALS FORUM, THE COMMUNITY GAINED FRESH PERSPECTIVES AND IDENTIFIED NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, MEANINGFUL JOBS, HOUSING PREFERENCES, AND EDUCATIONAL ADVANCEMENT.
AND SO THIS IMPACT OF THIS EVENT WILL UNDOUBTEDLY SHAPE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES MOVING FORWARD.
SO LET'S GIVE IT UP FOR JOEL AND WINTER IN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
ALSO, WE HAD MR. UH, JACOB GARZA, AND HE WORKED IN THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE, AND HE IS AT SMU.
HE'S A, HE'LL BE A 2025 GRADUATE FROM SMU.
HE ALSO WANTS TO PURSUE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, UM, AND HE ALSO WANTS TO RUN FOR MAYOR ONE DAY.
SO WE, UH,
BUT, UH, FROM ASSISTING AND COORDINATING THE COUNCIL'S SUMMER RETREAT, WHICH HE DID AN AMAZING JOB AT THAT, UH, TO BEAR AND WINE RESEARCH AND LEADING HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT VOLUNTEERS IN REORGANIZING COUNCIL PHOTOS IN THE COUNCIL CONFERENCE ROOM AND SURROUNDING AREAS.
SO IF YOU GO OUT THIS WAY, YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE SOME OF JACOB'S HANDIWORK.
JACOB DEMONSTRATED STRONG LEADERSHIP AND COMMUNICATION SKILLS.
JACOB'S SECOND SUMMER HERE AT THE CITY OF DESOTO WAS NOTHING SHORTLY SHORT OF AMAZING AND BENEFICIAL FOR BOTH THE CITY SECRETARY AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
LET'S GIVE JACOB GARZA A GREAT BIG HAND.
AND LASTLY, WE HAD VALERIE VILLACORTA.
SHE WAS IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
UH, SHE IS AT UT AUSTIN, AND SHE IS A 2024 GRADUATE, AND SHE PLANS TO GO INTO LAW SCHOOL AFTER FINISHING HER SECOND AND FINAL YEAR AT UT.
AND SHE WAS ALSO THE VALEDICTORIAN FOR DESOTO HIGH SCHOOL LAST YEAR.
SO THAT'S ALSO AMAZING, UH, FROM CONDUCTING RESEARCH FOR COUNCIL, MEETING DISCUSSIONS, PREPARING PRESENTATIONS, UPDATING WEBSITES, CREATING COMMUNICATION FLYERS, AND GATHERING ARTICLES FROM THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS EACH WEEK AND SO MUCH MORE.
VALERIE HAS BEEN A VALUABLE ASSET TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
SHE ALSO FOUND TIME TO VOLUNTEER AND PICK UP LITTER AND HELP A FORMER MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER DECORATE THEIR FIRST DAY BACK TO SCHOOL.
ONE OF HER MAJOR PROJECTS WAS TO ORGANIZE AND COORDINATE THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS FOR THE UPCOMING CIVIC ACADEMY COHORT.
THAT THE FACT THAT THAT COHORT IS CURRENTLY FULL WITH AN EXTENSIVE WAIT LIST IS A TESTAMENT TO VALERIE'S UNWAVERING HARD WORK.
LET'S GIVE VALERIE A GREAT BIG HAND CLAP AS WELL AT THIS TIME.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A CROWD HERE TONIGHT.
UM, AND SO, UH, SOME OF THAT, UM, A CONSEQUENCE OF THAT IS WE HAVE, UM, A, A LOT OF CARDS FOR INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK BOTH IN OUR CITIZEN'S APPEARANCES AS WELL AS SEVERAL OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS. AND SO, UM, WE, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN, UH, EFFICIENT FLOW OF THE MEETING, AS WELL AS BEST UTILIZE OUR TIME HERE IN THE MEETING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE RECEIVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, UM, WE ARE GOING TO LIMIT EACH OF OUR SPEAKERS TO TWO MINUTES VERSUS THE STANDARD THREE MINUTES THAT WE NORMALLY HAVE.
SO IN OUR CITIZEN'S APPEARANCES, THAT WILL BE TWO MINUTES.
UM, AND THEN ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ANY OF OUR, UH, REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS OR OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, UM, THAT WILL ALSO BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES.
SO PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF THAT AS YOU COME, UH, TO SPEAK.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM
[D. CITIZEN APPEARANCES]
ON OUR AGENDA.NEXT WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR CITIZEN APPEARANCES.
THE CITY COUNCIL INVITES CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY TOPIC NOT ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
CITIZENS WISHING TO SPEAK SHOULD COMPLETE A CITIZEN COMMENT CARD AND PRESENT IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY OR RETURN TO THE AMBASSADOR TABLE PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE CITY COUNCIL CANNOT TAKE ACTION ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
HOWEVER, YOUR CONCERNS MAY BE ADDRESSED BY CITY STAFF PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA OR RESPONDED TO BY SOME OTHER COURSE.
THE STANDARD TIME LIMIT IS THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND MAY BE MODIFIED AT THE MAYOR'S DISCRETION TO MAINTAIN AN EFFICIENT FLOW OF THE MEETING.
AND FIRST, I HAVE REVEREND RICARDO ALLEN.
MR. ALLEN, IF YOU COULD CUT THAT MICROPHONE ON, YOU CAN PRESS THAT BUTTON AND THE LATERAL
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TURN.AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE ONLY FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
MY NAME IS REVEREND RICARDO ALLEN.
I'VE BEEN A NATIVE, UH, UH, UH, RESIDENT OF DESOTO FOR 30 YEARS.
MY FAMILY AND I MOVED HERE IN 93, UH, FOUR KIDS.
UM, ONE JUST GOT THROUGH DEFENDING HIS PHD TODAY.
HE WILL, UH, BE WALKING ACROSS STAGE IN MAY WITH HIS, UH, DOCTOR OF MUSIC AND ARTS.
MY ONLY DAUGHTER OUT OF THE FOUR HAVE TWO MASTERS, AND MY BABY BOY WORKED FOR ONE OF THE LARGEST, UH, UH, ARCHITECT FIRMS HERE, AND HE'S BACK AT, UH, U OF H TO GET HIS MASTERS.
THAT BEING SAID, UH, UM, I COME TO SPEAK ON A COMPLAINT.
UH, I HAD A HORRIFIC EXPERIENCE ON JULY THE THIRD, MONDAY AT OUR LOCAL LONG JOHN SILVER ON PLEASANT RUN.
WENT THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH JUST TO PURCHASE A KID'S MEAL OF FISH, FRIES, AND A DRINK.
AND LONG STORY SHORT, LET ME JUST MOVE FORWARD.
I DID NOT HAVE A CLUE, UM, BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE, UM, UH, 45 SECONDS THAT I WOULD BE, UH, ASSAULTED BY CONTACT AND NOT ONE, BUT TWO PISTOLS.
AND THIS, A WORKER POINTED AT ME, WENT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MADE THIS COMPLAINT SIX WEEKS AGO, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SAT ON IT.
I'M ALSO PART OF DAK, THE DESOTO POLICE AND CLERGY.
AND FOR ONLY THING I'VE GOTTEN FROM THIS DEPARTMENT WAS ARROGANCE, DISRESPECT, AND JUST LIES.
I AM APPALLED, AND I'M NOT GONNA DROP NAMES HERE, BUT, UH, I'M TRYING TO DO THINGS DECENT IN THE ORDER.
I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW PROTOCOL.
REVEREND ALLEN, THAT DOES CONCLUDE YOUR TIME.
OUR CHIEF IS HERE AND WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AFTER TONIGHT'S MEETING.
THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT, MARY BONAPARTE.
MS. BONAPARTE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD, AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
MARY BONAPARTE, CITY OF DESOTO.
I WANNA SPEAK ABOUT THE COUNCIL ACTION ITEM REGARDING THE DEBT ISSUANCE.
I FEEL THAT THE WAY THAT THIS ACTION ITEM WAS WRITTEN IS DECEPTIVE.
SENATE BILL TWO WAS NOT A RECENT CHANGE TO STATE LAW.
LET ME TELL RAS THAT THEY'RE GONNA GONNA ASK FOR INTEREST.
CLEARLY, OUR CITY STAFF DROPPED THE BALL IN DALLAS COUNTY, SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED AS A SCAPEGOAT.
SENATE BILL TWO WAS PASSED IN 2019, BECAME EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2020.
SECTION 1 0 6 OF THIS BILL PROVIDED THAT NO LATER THAN 30 DAYS AFTER THE, UM, AFTER THE SECTION BECAME EFFECTIVE.
TAXING UNITS, WHICH IS THE CITY OF DESOTO, MUST SUBMIT TO THEIR COUNTY ASSESSOR, WHICH IS THE CITY OF DALLAS.
THE WORKSHEETS USED TO CALCULATE THE NEW ASSESSMENTS.
THIS CITY IS TOO TOP HEAVY WITH EXECUTIVE AND MANAGERIAL STAFF, AND WE SHOULD HAVE STAYED ABREAST OF THIS LEGISLATIVE CHANGE.
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS, DID WE SUBMIT THE REQUIRED NECESSARY PAPERWORK TO DALLAS COUNTY AS REQUIRED? THANK YOU.
MR. MCDONALD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I WANT TO TALK TONIGHT ABOUT THE PLAN FOR NANCE FARM.
IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT HERE WE ARE.
UH, THE PLAN FOR NANCE FARM CALLS FOR, UH, SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO NANCE FARM, 2100 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IN AMPHITHEATER AND SOME EXPANDED PARKING.
IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO TELL HOW MANY SPACES IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE 25.
THERE'S A CHART IN THE MASTER PLAN THAT THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED.
IT CONTEMPLATES VARIOUS EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
IT CONTEMPLATES 84 LARGE EVENTS WITH AN AVERAGE SIZE OF
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150, 120 PEOPLE.THAT'S SEVEN A MONTH, 182 OTHER EVENTS WITH AN AVERAGE SIZE OF 50 PEOPLE.
13 AMPHITHEATER PREMIUM EVENTS OF UNSPECIFIED SIZE.
THERE ARE TO BE 39 COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH AN AVERAGE SIZE OF 50 PEOPLE.
THE AMPHITHEATER WILL HAVE PERFORMANCES, MUSIC AND LOUDSPEAKERS.
THERE WILL BE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
THERE WILL BE A NEED FOR SECURITY.
NOW, I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT WHERE YOU GO WITH THIS.
IF THIS WAS A PRIVATE CITIZEN TRYING TO DO AN EVENT CENTER, THEY'D BE REQUIRED TO COME UP WITH 50 TO 60 ONSITE PARKING SPACES THAT THAT SITE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MANTLE BROOK NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IF YOU WANNA DESTROY THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, GO FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN.
UH, IT'S GONNA BE AN AWFUL MESS.
AND, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I'M WITH, UM, THE CITY OF GLEN HEIGHTS.
UM, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PROCTOR AND COUNCILMAN.
I RESIDE WITHIN THE 101,000 BLOCK OF WILL WELLINGTON DRIVE GLEN HEIGHTS.
I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND OTHER RESIDENTS OF GLEN HEIGHTS, SOME OF WHOM ARE HERE TONIGHT, WHOSE HOUSES ARE ON THE 1400 BLOCK OF MAJESTIC METALS AND THE 1100 BLOCK OF DAVEN TREE.
OUR HOMES BACKYARDS CO-JOINED WITH THE KINGSDALE FORMED PROPERTY WHERE NEW HOMES ARE BEING BUILT ON THE SOUTH OF MELODY LANE HERE IN DESOTO.
SINCE JULY, WE HAVE LOST LARGE LODGE THREE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS STARTING WORK ON THESE HOUSES BEFORE 7:00 AM THE INITIAL COMPLAINT WAS FILED VIA THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND WE WERE TOLD THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD DO.
THEY REFERRED US TO THE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT.
THE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT, UH, DID NOTHING IN MID-JULY, NOT KNOWING WHOSE COUNCIL DISTRICT IT WAS.
I REACHED OUT TO COUNCILMAN MEMBER RAFAEL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND SHE WAS PUT ME IN CONTACT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MARKS, UM, UM, BEFORE COUNCIL MEMBER MARKS COULD GET ANYTHING DONE.
UM, WE HAD ANOTHER INCIDENT ON JULY THE 31ST WHERE THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION WORKERS STARTED TO BUILD ON THE HOUSES AGAIN AT SIX O'CLOCK, SIX 30 IN THE MORNING.
UM, WE RAISED A COMPLAINT ON THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER MARKS, UH, TOOK, UH, ACTION ON THAT.
UH, AND, UM, UH, TODAY, UM, I'M SORRY SHE DID NOT TAKE ACTION OUT BEFORE SHE COULD TAKE ACTION ON THAT.
TODAY AT SIX O'CLOCK, BETWEEN SIX AND SIX 30 THIS MORNING, THEY WERE STARTING AGAIN TO PUT THE WHIPS ON THOSE HOUSES MAKING EXCESSIVE NOISE, A NOISE NUISANCE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH THIS, AND WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD 54 HOUSES IN THAT AREA, AND THEY'RE JUST STARTING.
SO WE WOULD LIKE THE COUNCIL, UH, TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT, TO HAVE THESE, UM, BUILDERS ENFORCED THE CODE THAT YOU HAVE SET UP AND STARTING AT 7:00 AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD, AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
MY NAME'S, UH, ALVIN AL MORRIS, UH, DESOTO, TEXAS.
AND THE ISSUE I WANNA SPEAK ON, I LIVE IN THE, AT 14 0 4 MANFIELD BROOK DRIVE HERE IN DESOTO.
I'M THE THIRD HOUSE IN A FOUR HOUSE BLOCK ON THE DOWNHILL SIDE.
AND I'VE HAD AN ALLEY PROBLEM THAT I'VE, UH, BEEN TRYING TO RESOLVE SINCE APPROXIMATELY 20 15, 20 16, UH, WATER COMING DOWN THE ALLEY.
THE ALLEY IS FLATTENED OUT, UH, BEHIND MY PROPERTY.
AND INSTEAD OF FLOWING, UH, HARMLESSLY DOWN THE CENTER OF THE ALLEY, IT FLOWS INTO MY YARD AND IT'S CREATED A WASH.
AND I'VE HAD MY HOUSE PAINTED.
UH, I HAD A MEETING ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO WITH THE, UH, ZOOM MEETING WITH THE, UH, UH, UH, CITY MANAGER, THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, AND A YOUNG LADY, AND A LADY NAMED CRYSTAL OWENS, WHO WHEN I EXPLAINED THE PROBLEM, SHE SENT SOME PEOPLE OUT.
THEY DIDN'T TALK TO ME, BUT THEY DID A SHIMMY JOB SHOOT SILICONE UNDER THE SIDE OF THE ALLEY TO TRY TO RAISE IT UP.
WELL, THAT WORKED FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEY DIDN'T GO FAR ENOUGH UP THE ALLEY.
AND AS OF YESTERDAY, I'M STILL TRYING
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TO GET THAT PROBLEM RESOLVED.AND YESTERDAY I RE I RECEIVED A, UH, EMAIL, UH, CLOSING.
IT SAID, CLOSING REQUEST NUMBER 1 1 3 7 8 8.
AND IT STATED, YOUR, YOUR REQUEST HAS BEEN RESOLVED WITH THE RESOLUTION.
THIS MATTER HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION TO CITY MANAGER AND NEW STREETS DEPARTMENT MANAGER.
THEY'RE IN DISCUSSION OF A RESOLUTION.
I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT FOR THE LAST SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS.
CAN SOMEBODY GIVE ME HELP ON GETTING THIS THING RESOLVED? THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.
UM, I, I JUST RECEIVED INFORMATION.
HI, MY NAME IS ROBBIE MESSER SCHMIDT.
I LIVE IN SHAM SHAMROCK GARDENS WITH, WHICH IS AN AREA THAT IS A, UH, DOES NOT HAVE AN HOA.
AND THE PROBLEM SEEMS TO BE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE EXTRA LAND AND NOBODY IS WATCHING, YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE, UM, PUTTING THINGS IN THEIR HOUSES THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING.
THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED TO DO IT.
UM, WE, I'VE TALKED TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THEY HAVE ACTUALLY FOUND THAT THERE WERE NO PERMITS.
THEY HAVE GIVEN THE INFORMATION TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND IT HAS TAKEN THEM EITHER MONTHS OR NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE WITH IT.
WE HAVE HOUSES WITH DO IT YOURSELF DRIVEWAYS, ENCLOSED GARAGES THAT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE CAMPERS IN THEIR BACKYARDS.
SOME PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THEM.
WE HAVE CARS PARKED IN FRONT LAWNS AND BACK LAWNS.
WE HAVE PEOPLE BRINGING IN TRUCKS, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, TRAILERS, RUNNING BUSINESSES.
BESIDES THE BUSINESSES, THEY'RE BRINGING IN THEIR GARBAGE FROM THEIR CLIENTS.
WHEN THEY BRING IN THEIR GARBAGE, THEY THEN PUT THAT IN THE FRONT AND THEY EXPECT SODA TO PICK IT UP.
SO THE CITY OF DESOTO IS NOW PAYING FOR PEOPLE'S INDIVIDUALS, THEIR CLIENTS, THEIR GARBAGE.
I THINK THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH TRACKING.
I HAVE PUT IN THE SAME HOUSES SOMETIMES THREE YEARS IN A ROW, AND I PUT THEM IN MULTIPLE TIMES.
I TEXT THEM, I SEND PICTURES ON EVERYTHING.
UH, SOME OF THE PICTURES HAVE BEEN USED IN WAYS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN USED.
ONE OF THEM WAS USED TO ACTUALLY SEND TO ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS.
MY NEIGHBORS SHOWED UP AT MY HOUSE, SHOWED ME THE PICTURE, AND SAID, WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THESE PICTURES? WHY ARE YOU, UH, ASKING IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH MY HOUSE? I FINALLY HAD A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, UH, ACTUALLY APOLOGIZE TO ME BECAUSE THEY PUT ME, I FOUGHT IN JEOPARDY BECAUSE OF THAT.
I ALSO HAD ANOTHER ONE SHOW UP BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE DESCRIBED WHO I WAS AND SAID THEY WORKED AT THE OFFICE.
UH, I CAN'T BE IN THAT KIND OF POSITION.
WE WORK IN AN AREA NOW WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO SHOOT OTHER PEOPLE OVER READING.
MS. SMITH, THAT CONCLUDES YOUR TIME.
IS MR. WASHINGTON HERE? YOUR HONOR, I JUST WISH NOT SPEAK.
YOUR, UM, DID YOU PLACE YOUR CONCERN ON THE CARD ITSELF OR? YEAH, I JUST, I I TOLD YOU I WISH.
UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY OF RESIDENCE AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
MY NAME IS CY MURCHISON AND I AM HERE BECAUSE OF THE INAPPROPRIATE ACTIONS OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND I AM NOT SPEAKING OF MS. PARKER.
SHE JUST GOT HERE YOU INSULT THE INTELLIGENCE OF THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SERVING.
YOU DO NOT RESPOND TO REQUESTS THAT ARE BROUGHT TO YOU IN CITY COUNCIL.
YOU HAVE NOT EVEN UPDATED THE WEBPAGE.
UH, MS. PARKER'S PICTURE IS NOT EVEN THERE.
YOU DID THE SAME THING TO MS. LEDBETTER.
I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING OR WHY YOU'RE DOING IT, BUT I DO KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY AT HEART.
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WE DON'T NEED YOU.WE SIMPLY DO NOT NEED YOU TO DESTROY THE CITY OF DESOTO.
YOU LEFT YOUR GLASSES AT THE PODIUM.
THAT CONCLUDES, UH, OUR CITIZENS' COMMENTS PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.
NEXT WE MOVE INTO OUR PRESENTATIONS.
[1. Presentation of proclamation honoring National Senior Citizen Day]
WE HAVE PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATION HONORING NATIONAL SENIOR CITIZEN DAY MAKING THAT PRESENTATION IS COUNCIL MEMBER DYNA MARKS RECEIVING IS MS. ORA FOSTER DESOTO RESIDENT FOSTER PEOPLE WOULD BE SO KINDEST.AND MY PERSONAL HELPER, MR. IF YOU WOULD GIVE ME THANK YOU, SIR.
AS MS. FOSTER IS MAKING HER WAY DOWN, I WAS JUST GIVING SOME INFORMATION ABOUT HER.
SHE DOES ATTEND OUR SENIOR CENTER.
SHE WAS BORN IN MARCH, MARCH 6TH, 1949.
GREW UP ON THE WEST SIDE OF DALLAS WITH HER SIX BROTHERS AND SIX SISTERS.
NOW SHE HAS A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY OF FIVE RETIRED AFTER 26 YEARS OF SERVICE AS A QUALITY CONTROL OPERATOR FOR ABBOTT LABORATORIES IN URBAN TEXAS.
SHE IS A SERVANT AT TRUE FOUNDATION, FULL GOSPEL BAPTIST CHURCH UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF PASTOR WHITNEY B.
SHE ATTENDED UNT DALLAS, GRADUATED 2019 WITH A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE DEGREE.
ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WHEN YOU TRUST IN THE LORD.
HER HOBBIES INCLUDE SINGING, SONGS OF PRAISE AND COOKING.
OUTSTANDING AWARDS RECEIVED HAVE BEEN DISTINGUISHED.
TOASTMASTER 2012 WOMAN OF THE YEAR, 2017, FIRST PLACE TALENT AWARD 2016 AND THE DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD, 2016 PARAGON AWARD OF TEXAS MASS 2017.
LET'S GIVE HER A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, SHE SAYS THAT SHE IS A DEVOTED INDIVIDUAL WHO LIVES WITH PASSION, DEDICATION, AND GRACE.
THEREFORE, I WILL BLESS THE LORD AT ALL TIMES.
HIS PRAISES SHALL CONTINUALLY BE IN MY MOUTH.
LET'S HEAR FROM MS. OR FOSTER.
IT IS MY HONOR TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION AND IT SAYS, WHEREAS THROUGHOUT OUR HISTORY, OLDER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VITAL.
I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT.
CAN I GET SOME HELP HERE? WHEREAS THROUGHOUT OUR HISTORY, OLDER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VITAL FOR OUR FAMILIES, OUR COMMUNITIES, AND OUR COUNTRY.
THAT REMAINS TRUE TODAY, GIVING US AMPLE REASON TO RESERVE A SPECIAL DAY IN HONOR OF OUR SENIOR CITIZENS WHO ARE VITAL TO OUR LAND.
AND WHEREAS IMPROVED HEALTH CARE HAS AFFORDED OLDER CITIZENS MORE YEARS OF PRODUCTIVITY AS THEY CONTINUE TO REINFORCE THEIR HISTORICAL ROLES AS LEADERS, LINKS TO OUR TRADITIONS AND SENSE OF PURPOSE AS INDIVIDUALS TO THIS NATION.
AND WHEREAS MILLIONS OF SENIOR CITIZENS GIVE YOUNGER AMERICANS A FINE EXAMPLE OF RESOURCEFULNESS, COMPETENCE, DETERMINATION AS THEY EMBARK UPON.
SECOND CAREERS ARE BY SERVING AS VOLUNTEERS IN VARIOUS PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS THAT CONTINUE TO BENEFIT EVERY SECTOR OF SOCIETY.
AND WHEREAS OUR GRATITUDE AND ESTEEM ARE BEST DEMONSTRATED BY ENSURING OUR COMMUNITIES PROVIDE SAFE PLACES FOR MATURE AND GROW OLDER PLACES IN WHICH OLDER PEOPLE CAN PARTICIPATE TO THE FULLEST OF THEIR ABILITY AND CAN FIND THE ENCOURAGEMENT, THE ACCEPTANCE, THE ASSISTANCE AND SERVICES THEY NEED TO CONTINUE TO LEAD LIVES OF INDEPENDENCE AND DIGNITY.
AND WHEREAS THE AUGUST 21ST NATIONAL SENIOR CITIZENS DAY RECOGNIZES ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE MORE MATURE REPRESENTATIVES OF OUR NATION THIS DAY, PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW OUR APPRECIATION
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FOR THEIR DEDICATION, THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND SERVICES THEY GIVE THROUGHOUT THEIR LIVES.OUR SENIOR CITIZENS ARE PIONEERS OF SCIENCE, MEDICINE, PSYCHOLOGY, CIVIL RIGHTS, AND SO MUCH MORE THIS DAY ENCOURAGES SUPPORTING SENIOR CITIZENS TO LIVE THEIR LIVES TO THE FULLEST AND AS INDEPENDENTLY AS POSSIBLE.
NOW, THEREFORE, I RACHEL L PROCTOR BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE ALL AMERICA CITY OF DESOTO, TEXAS, DALLAS COUNTY, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM AUGUST 21ST, 2023 AS NATIONAL SENIOR CITIZENS DAY IN THE CITY OF DESOTO AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO TAKE TIME THIS MONTH TO RECOGNIZE AND SHOW APPRECIATION TO SENIOR CITIZENS AS VITAL CITIZENS WHO GREATLY CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COMMUNITY IN WITNESS THEREOF.
I HAVE SET MY HAND AND CALLS THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF DESOTO TO BE AFFIXED THIS 15TH DAY OF AUGUST, 2023.
RACHEL L PROCTOR MAYOR ATTESTED BY ALICIA THOMAS, WHO IS OUR CITY SECRETARY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? OKAY.
GIVING PRAISE TO GOD, TO MAYOR PROCTOR, TO ALL THE COUNCILMEN.
I COUNTED A PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO ACCEPT THIS GREAT PROCLAMATION.
IT'S NOT JUST FOR ME, BUT IT'S FOR ALL THE SENIOR CITIZENS.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I THOUGHT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I WAS, CAME ALL THE WAY FROM DOWN HAMILTON TO DESOTA TO BE A PART OF THE DESOTA SENIOR SYSTEM.
EVERY DAY I GO THERE, I FIND JOY THERE, I FIND PEACE, AND I FIND HAPPINESS THERE.
AND SO I WAS GLAD WHEN THEY SAID TO ME, LET US GO TO THE DESOTO
WE WILL HAVE FUN AND WE'LL FIND PEACE.
SO THANK YOU FOR THIS PROCLAMATION FOR ALL THE CI SENIOR CITIZENS OF THE SODA.
THANK YOU MOTHER FOSTER FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
I WAS TELLING TAMARA, I SAID, THAT'S MY, YOU KNOW, THEY LET ME BE A PART OF THE GOLDEN VOICES SENIOR CENTER CHOIR.
SO THAT'S MY SEAT BUDDY RIGHT THERE.
WE SIT TOGETHER AND WE HOLD DOWN THAT SOPRANO SLASH ALTO SLASH WHATEVER KIWI IN SECTION, UH, WHENEVER WE HAVE OUR CONCERTS.
SO AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE OUR SENIORS.
THEY ARE JUST, UH, THEY BRING US SO MUCH JOY.
SO WE WERE PLEASED TO HONOR THEM WITH THIS PROCLAMATION.
UH, AT THIS TIME, MS. THOMAS WILL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
[2. Presentation of the July 2023 Financial Report]
WE HAVE PRESENTATION OF THE JULY, 2023 FINANCIAL REPORT.MAKING THAT PRESENTATION IS LAKITA SUTTON, ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
WE ARE GONNA GO THROUGH THE JULY FINANCIAL REPORT AND LOOK, TAKE A LOOK AT THE CITY'S, UM, REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES AT THIS POINT IN THE FISCAL YEAR.
AT THIS TIME, WE'RE ABOUT 83% INTO THE FISCAL YEAR WITH JUST TWO MONTHS OF REPORTING LEFT AFTER THIS MONTH.
SO WE'LL BEGIN BY LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND.
AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES ARE PERFORMING VERY WELL.
SEVERAL CATEGORIES ARE ABOVE THE TARGETED, UM, RATE AT THIS POINT.
PROPERTY TAX IS AT 102, UH, 0.3%.
LICENSE AND PERMITS ARE UP AS WELL AS INTEREST, REVENUE AND CHARGE FOR SERVICES.
UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE STARTED THE YEAR WITH, UH, BUDGETING 56 MILLION.
AND AS OF THE END OF JULY, WE ARE AT 51 MILLION ON OUR REVENUE.
WE'RE DOING VERY WELL WITH THAT WITH OUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT'S, UH, HOW THEY'RE BROKEN OUT, AS WELL AS THEIR ORIGINAL BUDGETS.
REVISED BUDGETS FOR ANY AMENDMENTS OR ANYTHING THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE THROUGHOUT
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THE YEAR.AND ALSO OUR 2023 YEAR TO DAY ACTUALS.
EVERYTHING LOOKS TO BE BE JUST ABOUT ON TARGET.
UH, WE ARE AT 77.8% ON OUR EXPENDITURES, WHEREAS THIS TIME LAST YEAR WE'RE AT 75.2%.
AS WE MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC UTILITY FUND, WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE REVENUE THERE, AND OF COURSE, OUR MAJOR SOURCES ARE THERE ARE, ARE WATER AND SEWER CELLS.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THOSE ARE LOOKING AT 73.2% ON, UH, METER WATER CELLS AND 78.5% ON SEWER CELLS.
AT THE TIME OF THIS REPORT, WE DID HAVE ONE BILLING CYCLE THAT HAD NOT YET POSTED.
SO I FOUND THAT TODAY, I ACTUALLY RAN THAT, AND WE ARE ALMOST RIGHT ON TARGET AT ABOUT 87%, UM, AS YOU KNOW, CLOSER TO WHERE WE WERE THIS TIME LAST YEAR.
SO YOU WILL SEE THAT PICK, PICK BACK UP AND CATCH BACK UP ON YOUR NEXT REPORT ON OUR EXPENDITURES IN THAT FUND.
UH, WE ARE TRACKING, WELL, WE ARE 75% WITH OUR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THERE.
OUR PUBLIC UTILITY ADMINISTRATION IS WHERE, UM, THE MAJORITY OF OUR, THE, OUR SALARIES AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
UM, OUR CUSTOMER BILLING, YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE TRACKING THERE WITH OUR EXPENDITURES.
UTILITY FIELD OPERATIONS IS WHERE WE PAY OUR DALLAS UTILITY WATER BILL AND THEN OUR NON-DEPARTMENTAL WITH FOR A TOTAL OF 75%.
OUR SANITATION FUND IS RUNNING RIGHT ABOUT ON TRACK WITH WHERE WE ARE AT IN THE FISCAL YEAR.
WE'RE 83.4% IN, AND WE'RE 84% RIGHT NOW ON OUR, UH, REVENUE, ON OUR EXPENDITURES, WE'RE AT 71.5%.
THAT'S TRACKING JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WE WERE THIS TIME LAST YEAR, BUT NOT QUITE ON TARGET WITH WHERE WE ARE IN THE FISCAL YEAR.
WE, UH, WE'RE TRACKING JUST ABOUT HOW WE PLAN TO.
SO 71.5% ON SANITATION RIGHT NOW.
YOU'LL SEE OUR ORIGINAL BUDGET, ANY REVISIONS TO THAT BUDGET.
AND ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE, YOU WILL SEE WHERE WE STAND, UH, 2023 YEAR TO DATE WITH OUR ACTUALS.
THESE ARE OF COURSE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GONNA BE, UM, IN, IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S JUST GONNA BE KIND OF BASED ON THE TIMING AND THE NATURE OF THOSE PROJECTS.
THE NEXT PAGE GIVES US, UM, WELL, THE NEXT SECTION IS OUR OTHER FUNDS.
THESE FUNDS ARE GOING TO INCLUDE ALL OTHER FUNDS THAT ARE SPECIAL REVENUE AND INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS.
THE FIRST SECTION IS OUR REVENUE.
SO ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE OUR YEAR TO DATE ACTUALS THROUGH JULY.
AND THEN THE NEXT PAGE, WE HAVE THE CORRESPONDING EXPENSES FOR THOSE SAME FUNDS.
WE HAVE INCLUDED OUR PROPERTY TAX COLLECTION REPORT FROM THE DALLAS COUNTY TAX OFFICE SHOWING A TOTAL COLLECTION OF 98.25% AS OF THE END OF JULY.
WE HAVE INCLUDED OUR HISTORICALLY UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESS SPENDING REPORT FOR THE MONTH OF JULY.
WE ARE AT 8.5%, ONE OF OUR HIGHER MONTHS.
SO WE'RE REALLY PLEASED WITH THAT.
THAT PUTS OUR YEAR TO DAY TOTAL AT 5.8%.
AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE HIRED A NEW PURCHASING MANAGER.
SO WE HAVE SOME INITIATIVES ON HIS PLATE.
HE, HE WAS NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE MEETING TONIGHT, BUT HIS NAME IS BLAINE RIDINGS.
UM, HE BRINGS A TON OF EXPERIENCE AND HE IS EXCITED TO PICK UP THE PROJECT AND MOVE US FORWARD WITH SOME OF OUR, UM, OUR HUB INITIATIVES.
SO WE'RE AT 5.8% RIGHT NOW, YEAR TO DATE.
COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING, UH, OUR JULY, 2023 FINANCIAL REPORT? YES, DR. MARKS? YES.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, UH, THIS AFTERNOON.
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M AFTER THAT UNDERUTILIZED, SO CAN YOU TELL US, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT AS FAR AS, UH, WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT NUMBER TO THAT? WELL, WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF NETWORKING.
UH, WE HAVE THE QUARTERLY MWBE, UM, MEETING THAT WE HAVE WITH THE OTHER SISTER CITIES.
UH, WE ARE GOING, WE HAVE BLAINE, OUR NEW EMPLOYEE WHO IS SET TO ATTEND THAT MEETING, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HAD THE VACANCY IN PURCHASING, AS YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF
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THAT RESPONSIBILITY FALLS UPON THAT DEPARTMENT.BUT WE DID NOT SLACK OFF BECAUSE THAT, UH, POSITION HAS BEEN VACANT.
WE DID HAVE A BUYER WHO STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND WAS ABLE TO CARRY THESE INITIATIVES FORWARD.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE 5.8% IS ONE OF OUR HIGHER MONTHS.
AND AND THE PERCENTAGE, THE GOAL IS 2020.
SO WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? ARE WE GONNA REACH IT? UM, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A HIGHER PERCENTAGE.
IT'S AN AMBITIOUS ONE, BUT IT'S ONE THAT WE ARE CERTAINLY GONNA WORK TOWARDS.
WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT POLICY THERE OR THAT PROCEDURE AND THAT, THAT, UM, THAT BENCHMARK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IN PLACE AND WE REALLY WANNA MEET THAT.
BUT 20% WE'RE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL HIT THAT ONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR, ONLY BEING AT 5.8 RIGHT NOW.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY CONCERN.
THANK YOU, DR. MARKS COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM.
YOU, UM, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, MS. SUTTON.
MAY I ASK FOR, UM, UH, MR. WRIGHT, IF, IF, IF YOU CAN, UM, LATER PROVIDE TO THE COUNCIL, JUST LAST YEAR WE, YOU, WE ADDED IN ANOTHER PARTNERSHIP WITH DFW MINORITY, UH, SUPPLIERS AND JUST HOW IS THAT GOING AS IT RELATES TO OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM TO INCREASE OUR MWBE AND, AND BECAUSE WE PAID INTO THAT PROGRAM.
SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE ROI SO FAR ON ON THAT INVESTMENT? IF YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT TO US.
RAFAEL, DID I SEE YOUR LIGHT? SURE.
THANK, YES, THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR.
QUICK QUESTION ABOUT FRANCHISE FEES.
UM, AS THOSE CONTINUE TO TREND UNDER BUDGET, WHAT'S THE IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND AND WHAT EXPENDITURES WOULD NEED TO BE MADE AS A RESULT OF WHAT EXPENDITURE REDUCTIONS WOULD NEED TO BE MADE AS A RESULT OF THE F FRANCHISE FEES? OH, YEAH.
UM, YEAH, WE'RE AT 58.7 RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK TO SEE WHERE WE ENDED THE YEAR THIS TIME LAST YEAR.
I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE HIT THE EXACT TARGET OR NOT.
I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME CHANGE, UH, WITH, UM, SENATE BILL, UM, MORE ONE OF THE RECENT ONES THAT DID PUT A CAP ON SOME OF THOSE FRANCHISE FEES.
BUT I WILL HAVE TO CHECK DEEPER INTO THAT.
AND I, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE CORRESPONDING EXPENDITURES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REDUCED.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD CORRELATE.
IF WE CAN KNOW THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER RAPHAEL, STAYING IN THAT SAME VEIN, MS. SUTTON, IS THERE A LAG ON COLLECTION AND FRANCHISE FEES? ISN'T IT LIKE A MONTH OR TWO IN ARREARS, OR AM I THINKING ABOUT ANOTHER, ANOTHER FEE COLLECTION FOR FRANCHISE FEES? THERE IS' AN ACCRUAL, SO SOMETIMES THEY, THEY WILL TRACK AT, UM, AT LEAST 60 DAYS.
AND, AND SOMETIMES THE TIMING OF THOSE, WE WE'LL LOOK INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT SOMETIMES YOU'LL RECEIVE IT IN A MONTH EARLIER, ONE YEAR AND A MONTH LATER THE NEXT YEAR.
AND SO, ALTHOUGH IT KIND OF CATCHES ITSELF BACK UP OVER TIME, UM, BEFORE IT, BUT WE HAVEN'T NOTICED ANY OVERALL REDUCTION IN OUR FRANCHISE PAYMENT AMOUNTS.
SOME, IT'S PROBABLY POINTING MORE AT A LITTLE BIT TOWARDS A LAG OF A PAYMENT THAN IT IS TOWARDS THAT CASE.
AND I KNOW AT LEAST ONE OF THEM IS ONE LARGE PAYMENT AT SOME TIME IN THE FISCAL YEAR, AND THAT ONE MAY NOT HAVE HIT YET.
UH, COUNSEL, IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS REGARDING THE, UH, FINANCE REPORT, WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
[F. CONSENT AGENDA Items are listed on the Consent Agenda by the City Manager and are recommended to the City Council for single vote approval. An item( s) may be removed from the Consent Agenda for separate vote at the request of a Councilmember, the Mayor, or the City Manager. ]
NEXT WE MOVE INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.ITEMS ARE LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BY THE CITY MANAGER AND ARE RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR SINGLE VOTE APPROVAL.
AN ITEM MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE VOTE AT THE REQUEST OF A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE MAYOR, OR CITY MANAGER.
FIRST, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING, NOVEMBER 1ST, 2022, SPECIAL MEETING, NOVEMBER 14TH, 22, REGULAR MEETING, NOVEMBER 15TH, 22 DECEMBER 6TH, REGULAR MEETING 22, AS WELL AS RECOGNITION OF PROCLAMATION HONORING NEVER GIVE UP DAY.
CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A PURCHASE CONTRACT FOR TWO VEHICLES IN THE AMOUNT OF $122,528.
UTILIZING BY BOARD CONTRACT NUMBER 6 0 1 DASH 19 WITH CALDWELL COUNTY CHEVROLET FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT VEHICLES IDENTIFIED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.
CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A PURCHASE CONTRACT FOR THREE FORD EXPLORERS IN THE AMOUNT OF $170,859 AND 49 CENTS, UTILIZING BY BOARD CONTRACT 6 0 1 DASH 19 FROM SAM PAX FIVE STAR FOUR FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT VEHICLES IDENTIFIED IN FISCAL YEAR 2023 VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.
CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AN EXECUTE A PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH PRIORITY PUBLIC SAFETY LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF $60,100 AND 66 CENTS TO OUTFIT THREE NEW VEHICLES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE, THE NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT BETWEEN THE ATMOS CITIES STEERING COMMITTEE AND ATMOS ENERGY CORPORATION MID TEXT DIVISION REGARDING THE COMPANY'S 2023 RATE REVIEW MECHANISM
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FILING.CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH DALLAS COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT DBA PARKLAND HEALTH AND HOSPITAL SYSTEM FOR MEDICAL CONTROL AND CONTINUING EDUCATION SERVICES.
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING ASSIGNMENT OF NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION PRIVATE ACTIVITY, BOND AND AUTHORITY TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY.
AND FINALLY, CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE 2023 ANNUAL SERVICE PLAN, UPDATE AND ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE DANIEL DALE HOMESTEAD PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 3 7 2, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AS AMENDED, MAKING VARIOUS FINDINGS AND PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE SUBJECT AND PROVING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
COUNCIL, UM, IS THERE A MOTION? OH, COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT? ACTUALLY, MAYOR, YES, I DO.
ON THE MINUTES FOR THE NOVEMBER 1ST MEETING, UH, ON THAT TUESDAY, I JUST ASKED FOR THE GRAMMATICAL CORRECTION OF MY LAST NAME BE CORRECTED.
AND I ON ITEM THREE, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, I SEE THAT WE HAVE, UH, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER.
IS THERE A SET ORDER AS TO HOW YOUR, UH, TO OUR SECRETARIES SET ORDER AS TO HOW MANY YOU'RE DOING PER, I MEAN, HOW, HOW, WHAT IS THE PROCESS HERE? NOT NECESSARILY.
I AM LOADING AS MANY AS I CAN, AS MANY AS I CAN GET THROUGH RE REVIEWING TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF THE ACTIONS ARE COMPLETE AND EVERYTHING IS THERE.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE PROCESS.
SO YOU MAY SEE MANY MORE ON THE NEXT ONE, SO, OKAY.
THANK YOU DR. MARKS COUNCIL MEMBER RAPHAEL? YES.
I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM E RELATED TO THE FRANCHISE FEES ATMOS.
COUNSEL, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BEFORE WE CALL FOR A MOTION? OKAY.
HEARING NOW, WE DO KNOW WE HAVE ONE ITEM THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO BE PULLED.
I'M GONNA ASK IF THERE'S A MOTION FOR THE REMAINING ITEMS, AND WE DO HAVE A ORDINANCE TO BE READ WITH THOSE REMAINING ITEMS. MS. THOMAS, IF WE COULD HAVE THAT ORDINANCE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE MOTION.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF DESOTO, TEXAS, APPROVING THE 2023 ANNUAL SERVICE PLAN.
UPDATE THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN, INCLUDING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE DANIEL DALE HOMESTEAD PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 3 72, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AS AMENDED AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
COUNSEL, IS THERE A MOTION? AND PLEASE BE SURE TO EXCLUDE ITEM E IN YOUR MOTION.
MAD MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE AS PRESENTED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM E.
SECOND, UH, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BURRS, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUGHES TO APPROVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
UH, POOLING ITEM E COUNSEL, UH, PLEASE USE YOUR VOTING PADS.
THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[e. Consider a Resolution approving the negotiated settlement between the Atmos Cities Steering Committee and Atmos Energy Corporation, Mid-Tex Division regarding the company's 2023 Rate Review Mechanism (RRM) filing]
WILL, UH, HAVE ITEM E FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION IN A VOTE, UM, CITY MANAGER, RIGHT? CAN YOU LEAD US INTO THIS COUNCIL? WELL, EXCUSE ME, COUNCIL MEMBER.RAFAEL, WHAT QUESTIONS DID YOU HAVE REGARDING THIS ITEM? I JUST WANTED TO GET A GENERAL OVERVIEW SINCE THIS IS AN INCREASE AND THEN HAD A FEW QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE OVERVIEW.
AND I CAN GO AND PROVIDE THAT JUST REAL QUICK, UM, ON IT.
SO AS PART OF THE, THE RATE FILING PROCESS THAT WE HAVE WITH ATMOS, THERE'S A, A GROUP OF CITIES OF MANY CITIES THAT ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE ATMOS, UH, ENERGY STEERING COMMITTEE.
UH, AND WHAT WE DO IS ESSENTIALLY WHEN ATMOS FILES THEIR RATE, UH, REQUEST EVERY YEAR TO THE STATE, UH, THIS GROUP APPEALS THAT AND HAS A SEPARATE PROCESS FOR REVIEWING THOSE RATE INCREASES, NEGOTIATING THOSE RATES DOWN ON OUR BEHALF, UM, AS CITIES.
AND SO AS A RESULT, UH, OF THIS, THIS BODY HERE THAT DOES THAT, UH, WE ALL EXPERIENCE LESS, UH, INCREASES IN THOSE RATES, UH, FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
SO THIS IS AN ANNUAL PROCESS THAT OCCURS, UM, WITH THE, THE RATE FILING THAT HAPPENS FOR AT MS AND ALSO SIMILAR PROCESSES FOR OUR OTHER, UH, UTILITY COMPANIES.
UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UH, THE ATMOS, UH, THE, THE AGREED UPON ATMOS, UH, RATES WILL SET TO INCREASE BY ABOUT 7% FOR RESIDENTIAL, UH, PROPERTIES NEXT YEAR.
UM, AND THE, UH, BUSINESS PROPERTIES FOR ABOUT 5%, UM, IS THE ESTIMATES, UM, BASED ON THEIR PROJECTIONS FOR THAT.
UH, SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, I CAN GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THOSE.
BUT THAT, THAT IS THE RECOMMENDED, UH, SETTLEMENT THAT THEY'VE COME TO FROM THE ATMOSPHERE AND COMMITTEE GROUP.
IS ANYONE FROM ATMOSPHERE? YES, TODAY? OKAY.
I HAD A QUESTION RELATED TO THE COMMODITY CHARGE VERSUS THE, UH, THE COMMODITY CHARGES FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND, YEAH.
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GOOD EVENING.RAPHAEL, IF YOU COULD PROCEED WITH YOUR QUESTION.
SO, UM, MY QUESTION IS RELATED TO THE CHARGES, JUST THE NEGOTIATION POINTS.
SO FOR RESIDENTIAL, IT WENT, WENT UP A FEW PENNIES, BUT FOR INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCIAL RATHER, IT WENT DOWN A FEW PENNIES ON THAT PARTICULAR CHARGE AND JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT PIECE OF IT.
UM, SO YOU HAVE THE, WHAT IS IT? THE, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE, THE DIFFERENT CHARGES ACTUALLY TO GO INTO THOSE DETAILS? I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.
UH, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL RATE AND THE COMMODITIES CHARGES IS RELATED TO THE, UH, COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS.
'CAUSE I, I SEE THAT THERE'S A COMMODITY CHARGE FOR RESIDENTIAL THAT'S GOING FROM 46 CENTS TO 48 CENTS.
BUT FOR INDUSTRIAL, YOU KNOW, I, IF WE COULD JUST UNDERSTAND THAT NEGOTIATION POINT AS FAR AS WHY DID IT GO DOWN FOR COMMERCIAL, BUT IT WENT UP FOR RESIDENTIAL.
SO THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WANNA UNDERSTAND.
I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT THIS TIME, BUT I CAN GET IT FOR YOU.
COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THIS, UH, ITEM E BEFORE WE CALL FOR A MOTION? HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE PROVE AS PRESENTED.
SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TE HUGHES TO APPROVE.
AS PRESENTED COUNSEL, PLEASE USE YOUR VOTING PADS.
MS. THOMAS WILL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
NEXT WE MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[1. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider an Ordinance amending Planned Development-105 (PD-105) to add a medical clinic to the existing Walmart Store. The property is legally described as being Lot 1A, Block A, Walmart Heath Creek Addition. The property consists of 37.197 acres of land and is addressed as 951 W. Beltline Road. The applicant is Bohler Engineering and the property owner is Walmart Real Estate Business Trust. (Case Z-1502-23)]
FIRST, WE HAVE CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE.AMEND AMENDING PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 0 5 TO ADD A MEDICAL CLINIC TO THE EXISTING WALMART STORE.
THE PROPERTY IS LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING LOT ONE A BLOCK, A WALMART HEATH CREEK EDITION.
THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF 37.197 ACRES OF LAND AND IS ADDRESSED AS 9 5 1 WEST BELTLINE ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS BOWLER ENGINEERING AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS WALMART.
REAL ESTATE BUSINESS TRUST CASE Z DASH 1502 DASH 23.
MAKING THAT PRESENTATION IS BEST, BEST RAZZI PLANNING AND ZONING MANAGER.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
BEST RAZZI WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING TEAM, TIM.
CASE NUMBER Z 15 0 2 23 IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT REQUEST TO ADD A MEDICAL CLINIC WITHIN THE EXISTING WALMART STORE.
THE SITE IS 37.197 ACRES AND IS OWNED PLANT DEVELOPMENT 1 0 5.
THE PROPERTY IS ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH SISON ROAD AND WEST BELTLINE ROAD.
IT IS ADDRESSED AS 9 51 WEST BELTLINE ROAD.
TO YOUR, TO YOUR LEFT IS THE AREA MAP, AND TO YOUR RIGHT IS THE, UM, VICINITY MAP TO THE NORTH OF THIS.
PROPERTIES ARE RESIDENCIES THAT ARE ZONED PD 93 AND TO THE SOUTH ARE RESIDENCIES THAT ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY AID TO THE EAST, UH, RESIDENCIES THAT ARE ZONED PD 97 AND TO THE WEST ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY 10.
IN TERMS OF CASE HISTORY, THE PD WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED IN 2004 WITH GENERAL RITUALS, THE BEST ZONING, AND THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS TO PD 1 0 5 SINCE 2004 AND OVER THE YEARS WITH THE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT AROUND THIS LOCATION, THE CURRENT APPLICATION IS A REQUEST TO AMEND PD 1 0 5 TO ADD A MEDICAL CLINIC INTO THE EXISTING WALMART.
THE SITE SHOWS WHERE THE CLINIC WILL BE LOCATED AND THE PARKING SPACES THAT WILL BE RETRIED ELEVATION PLANS WILL SHOW US THE CHANGES ON THE STORE FACADE.
THIS IS THE, THE SITE PLAN AND THE CHANGES WILL BE RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN THE STRIPING OF THE PARKING WILL BE RIGHT AROUND RIGHT HERE TO PROVIDE AC ACCESSIBLE PARKING FOR PEOPLE WHO BE COMING TO THE CLINIC RIGHT HERE.
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THIS IS THE FACADE PLAN AND THE LOCATION IS RIGHT HERE.THIS IS THE LITTLE BIT PIECE OF WHAT THEY'LL BE ADDING, BUT IT'LL BE LOCATED RIGHT HERE ON THE SIDE, ON THE, ON THE, ON THE FACADE.
THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN THAT THEY ARE THERE, THERE OF THE CLINIC ITSELF.
AND ON JULY 9TH, 2023, A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE APPEARED IN THE DAILY FOCUS NEWSPAPER STAFF MAILED 137 NOTIFICATIONS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 AND 400 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
ONE LETTER WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR WITH NO LETTERS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OF THIS REQUEST.
AND ON THIS SUM MAP TO THE RIGHT, THE AREA IN BLACK IS THE, THE SITE ITSELF AND THE AREA IN BLUE IS THE 200 FEET NOTIFICATION AREA.
AND THEN THE PAPER ONE IS THE 400 FEET NOTIFICATION AREA.
AT THE JULY 25, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF PD 1 0 5 AMENDMENT, ADDING A MEDICAL CLINIC TO THE EXISTING STORE BY A PHOTO OF FIVE ZERO.
AND STAFF CONCURS WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING INCOME RECOMMENDATION.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE.
UM, AT THIS TIME COUNCIL, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUGHES TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING COUNCIL.
ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN THAT MO, THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AT THIS TIME.
UH, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES.
COULD YOU PLEASE COME UP? CUT YOUR MICROPHONE.
SIX NETWORK BOULEVARD, SUITE THREE 10 WITH I ALBERT 2,600 NETWORK BOULEVARD, THREE 10 IN FRISCO, TEXAS, UH, WITH BOER ENGINEERING HERE ON BEHALF OF WALMART.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
STAFF DID A GREAT JOB INTRODUCING IT, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
CERTAINLY GIMME YOUR LAST NAME AGAIN.
UH, COUNSEL, UH, AT THIS TIME, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY TAKE A SEAT, UM, IN THAT SEAT THAT, UH, SAYS RESERVED FOR STAFF, JUST IN CASE WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME CARDS FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
SO WE'LL HEAR THOSE FIRST AND THEN WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU LATER.
WE DO NOT HAVE CARDS FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS, UH, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
UM, AT THIS TIME, COUNSEL, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MAYOR PRO TEM AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL IN, UH, ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.
THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
COUNSEL, AT THIS TIME I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUGHES.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MARKS TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
COUNSEL, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? YES, MADAM MAYOR.
SO I I, I SAW THAT WALMART CORPORATION DID A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT BACK IN MARCH, UH, THAT THEY'LL HAVE CLOSE TO 24 STORES OPEN BY THE END OF, OR ADDITIONAL STORES BY THE END OF 2024 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO I THINK IT'S PRETTY EXCITING THAT YOU, THEY CHOSE DESOTO.
UM, AND WHAT MY QUESTIONS WERE AROUND WHERE, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE WALMART HEALTH, I SAW THAT THERE WERE OFFERINGS ON OPTOMETRY.
UM, JUST A REGULAR PCP, UH, IF YOU NEED A, A PHYSICIAN.
UM, THERE'S ALSO COUNSELING, WHICH I WAS LIKE, OKAY, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH TOO.
SO I WANTED TO KNOW WAS WOULD THIS LOCATION BE OFFERING? THAT IS MY FIRST QUESTION.
RIGHT? AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS, WHAT DOES CONSTRUCTION TIME LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY IN MY AREA AND I WAS CURIOUS, WILL THE WALMART BE SHUT DOWN ON ONE HALF? WILL THERE BE TRAFFIC CONCERNS WITH THIS? OR HOW IS THAT GONNA WORK AS IT RELATES? 'CAUSE IT'S A VERY, IT'S A HIGHLY FREQUENT STORE.
SO JUST FOR THE, UH, PATRONS WHO ARE, WHO USE IT FREQUENTLY, WHAT ARE THE EXPECTATIONS THERE? SO RELATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION THERE, THE STORE WILL BE OPERATIONAL DURING CONSTRUCTION.
SO IT'S, IT'S ALL IN ADDITION.
THERE'LL BE A, A CLOSED PORTION OF THE STORE JUST TO DO THAT CONSTRUCTION.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, OPERATION IS NORMAL.
UM, SO IT, IT WON'T AFFECT YOUR, YOUR DAILY OPERATIONS.
THERE MIGHT BE SOME TRAFFIC DETOURS, LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT JUST SO, UH, CONSTRUCTION ISN'T INTERFERING WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, DAILY TRAFFIC AND PUTTING ANYONE AT RISK.
BUT THAT WOULD BE THE PLAN FOR CONSTRUCTION? YES, THIS WILL, THIS WILL HAVE THE, THE COUNSELING
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AS WELL AT THIS LOCATION.COUNCIL MEMBER CHISM, COUNCIL MEMBER.
I, I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT ADDING SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THE BUILDING.
SO WHAT ARE WE DISPLACING? WILL THIS, UH, NEW CENTER USE WAREHOUSE SPACE OR WILL YOU TAKE THE SEASONAL AREA? ARE YOU GET DOING AWAY WITH THE GARDENING AREA? WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU DISPLACING IN ORDER TO CREATE THIS? SO IT'S, YOU'RE CORRECT.
IT'S NOT ADDING ANY ACTUAL BUILDING SQUARE FOOT.
IT'S NOT REMOVING ANY OUTDOOR STORAGE OR OUTDOOR GARDEN AREA.
UM, THAT'S ALL STILL GONNA REMAIN THE SAME.
UH, IN TERMS OF THE INTERNAL SPACE, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS.
DO YOU KNOW? YEAH, I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S ON THE INTERIOR.
I'M NOT THE ARCHITECT, BUT, UM, IT'S PROBABLY SOME SORT OF, EITHER IT'S A, IT'S A, CURRENTLY A VACANT SITE OR IT'S JUST, OR YOU KNOW, THAT AREA AT LEAST.
UM, BUT I DON'T THINK THE INTENT IS TO REMOVE ANY EXISTING SPACES AND SERVICES.
UM, BUT MORE PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL SERVICE TO IT.
AN UNDERUTILIZED SPACE WHERE IT'S LOCATED ON YOUR PLANS.
IT APPEARS THAT IT'S RIGHT WHERE YOU'RE SEASONAL AND YOU'RE GARDENING.
I I, I, I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I LIKE TO GO THERE FOR GARDENING.
AND, AND SO I'M, I'M CONCERNED I WOULD LIKE TO JUST KIND OF KNOW THE EFFECTS.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU DOING AWAY WITH THE GARDENING CENTER THERE AND JUST REPLACING IT WITH THE CENTER? ARE YOU GOING TO RE RELOCATE IT OUTDOORS? BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS FOR THE CITIZENS TO, TO GET A CENTER AND LOSE, UH, LOSE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, ADDING AMENITIES IS GREAT.
BUT, UH, AND, AND CHANGING IT UP IS, IS, IS GREAT AS WELL.
BUT, UH, BUT THAT WAS WHEN I WAS LOOKING THROUGH YOUR PLANS.
THAT'S ONE QUESTION I COULD NOT FIND AN ANSWER TO.
I I, I, I'LL BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE ARCHITECT AND FOLLOW UP WITH YOU, UH, ON AND PROVIDE AN ANSWER ON THAT WITH MORE DETAIL, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT THAT EXISTING SPACE IS USED FOR CURRENTLY TODAY.
I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE UH, MEDICAL CENTER.
I JUST WANNA KNOW, I'VE ACTUALLY GONE THROUGH THERE WITHIN THE LAST DAY OR SO.
THERE'S ALREADY CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.
IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE? OH YES.
WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED A ZONING CASE OF GO BACK AROUND, UM, THEM TO BRING OUT GROCERIES THERE.
IT'S THE GROCERY PICKUP, THE ONLINE OKAY.
GROCERY, BUT THEN THE ACTUAL MEDICAL CENTER THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT.
BUT THE MEDICAL CENTER WOULD GO IN FRONT OF THAT OR, UH, IT'S ON A DIFFERENT PART OF THE ACTUAL SUPER CENTER.
UM, BUT IT, IT WOULD BE A SEPARATE OPERATION AND SEPARATE.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I, I THINK SO, BUT IT STILL WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE IN THE GARDEN CENTER AREA.
IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UH, FOR THIS ITEM.
UM, IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR THIS ITEM.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DESOTO, TEXAS AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP OF THE CITY OF DESOTO, TEXAS AS HERETO FOR AMENDED BY AMENDING AND RESTATING PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 1 0 5 AS BEING MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT A.
ATTACHED HERE TO, TO PROVIDE FOR MEDICAL CLINIC OR OFFICE LOCATED ON LOT ONE A AND INSIDE THE EXISTING WALMART STORE BY APPROVING THE AMENDED SITE PLAN FOR LOT ONE WALMART SUPERCENTER ATTACHED HERE, TWO AS EXHIBIT B AND THE AMENDED FACADE ELEVATIONS PLAN FOR LOT ONE A WALMART SUPERCENTER ATTACHED HERE TWO AS EXHIBIT D PROVIDING FOR A CONFLICTS CLAUSE, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING A SAVINGS CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR A PENALTY OF FINE NOT TO EXCEED THE SUM OF $2,000 FOR EACH OFFENSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
AT THIS TIME, COUNSEL, PLEASE USE YOUR VOTING PADS.
MR. CITY ATTORNEY, YOU GOT ONE JOB.
YOU GOT ONE JOB? WELL HE SAID TWO JOBS TODAY.
ALRIGHT, THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AT THIS TIME MS. THOMAS, WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
[2. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider an Ordinance to amend Planned Development-111 (PD-111) to create a new Planned Development with base zoning district of SF-8 with deviations. The properties consist of approximately 17.25 acres of land legally described as being Tract 2 in the Jonas Buskirk Survey, Abstract 110 (501 W. Wintergreen Road) and 9.52 acres of land legally described as being Tract 2.1 in the Jonas Buskirk Survey, Abstract 110 (601 W. Wintergreen Road). The applicant is Dietz Engineering and the property owner is Nueva Vida Life Assembly. (Case No. Z-1501-23)]
NEXT WE HAVE CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND PLAN DEVELOPMENT ONE 11 TO CREATE A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF SF EIGHT WITH DEVIATIONS.THE PROPERTIES CONSIST OF APPROXIMATELY 17.25 ACRES OF LAND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING TRACKED.
TWO IN THE JONAS BUSKIRK SURVEY ABSTRACT ONE TEN FIVE ZERO ONE WEST WINTER GREEN ROAD AND 9.52 ACRES OF LAND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BEING TRACK 2.1 IN THE JONAS BUSKIRK SURVEY ABSTRACT ONE TEN SIX ZERO ONE WEST WINTERGREEN ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS DE'S ENGINE ENGINEERING AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS NUEVA VIDA.
LIFE ASSEMBLY CASE NUMBER Z DASH 15 ONE DASH 23.
COMING BACK TO MAKE THAT PRESENTATION IS BESTER RAZZI PLANNING AND ZONING MANAGER, EXCUSE ME, MS. RAZZI, BEFORE YOU BEGIN YOUR PRESENTATION, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS FOR COUNSEL BECAUSE WE
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DO HAVE, UM, A NUMBER OF CARDS FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO SPEAK.UM, SO WE WILL BE IMPLEMENTING AGAIN, KEEPING IN LINE WITH EARLIER, WE'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO SPEAK AS WELL AS WE WILL IMPLEMENT ROUNDS FOR COUNCIL COMMENTS AS WELL FOR THIS ITEM.
SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO FORWARD.
CASE NUMBER Z 15 0 1 23 IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1 1 1 AMENDMENT REQUEST TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT ONE ONE WITH SINGLE FAMILY EIGHT AS THE BEST ZONING WITH DEVIATIONS.
THE SITE IS 26.77 ACRES IN TOTAL AND IS CURRENTLY ZONED PD 1 1 1.
THE PROPERTIES ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF WEST WINTERGREEN ROAD AND OLD HICKORY TRAIL, IT IS ADDRESSED AS 5 0 1 AND 6 0 1 WEST WINTERGREEN ROAD.
TO YOUR LEFT IS THE AERIAL MAP AND TO THE RIGHT IS THE VICINITY MAP TO THE NORTH.
UH, VACANT PROPERTIES ZONED SINGLE FAMILY 20 AND TO THE SOUTH ZONE, UH, PROPERTIES ZONED SINGLE FAMILY 12 AND TWO.
FAMILY WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, DUPLEXES A CHURCH AND VACANT PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED PD 94 WITH SENIOR HOUSING AND TO THE WESTERN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT 16.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPATIBILITY THE FUTURE AND IS PLAN OF OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THE SITE IS SUITABLE FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THEREFORE THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OF THE 2015 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PROPERTY HAS ACCESS FROM WEST WINTER GREEN ROAD AND ANTICIPATED FALL ART THREE ROADWAY ON THE 2015 MASTER THERAPY PLAN.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING A POINT OF ACCESS FROM OLD
ONE WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED IN 2005 WITH SINGLE FAMILY 20 AS THE BEST ZONING.
THE CURRENT REQUEST IS TO AMEND PD 1 1 1 WITH SINGLE FAMILY.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 80 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITH TWO COMMON LOTS.
THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS RANGE FROM 8,000 SQUARE FEET TO 17,744 SQUARE FEET.
THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS WILL MEET ALL THE SFH REGULATIONS WITH LARGER DWELLING UNITS THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED IN SINGLE FAMILY.
EIGHT SINGLE FAMILY REQUIRES A MINIMUM DWELLING UNIT OF 1,550 SQUARE FEET AND THE PROPOSED PD AMENDMENT WILL HAVE A MINIMUM DWELLING UNITS OF 2,500 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS 950 SQUARE FEET.
AT THE JULY 25TH, 2023 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING RESIDENTS VOICE THEIR CONCERNS PERTAINING TO INCREASED TRAFFIC ON WEST WINTER GREEN ROAD.
TRAFFIC ISSUES AT THE INTERSECTION OF NORTHWEST MULLAND ROAD AND WE WEST WENT WINTER GREEN ROAD IN ADEQUATE OPEN SPACE AND LAKE OF AMENITIES.
AT THE TIME OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, THE APPLICANT WAS SEEKING DEVIATION FROM THE EARLY REQUIREMENT IN SECTION 9.40 3.2 OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
THE APPLICANT WAS ALSO REQUESTING DEVIATION FROM THE DRIVEWAY, CONNECTION FROM AN EARLY SEC, FROM EARLY SECTION FROM S IN SECTION 2030 8.2 D OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, 400% OF THE 80 LOTS.
SINCE THEN, THE APPLICANT IS STILL SEEKING DEVIATION FROM SECTION 9.4032 AND SECTION 38.2 D FOR ALL THE LOTS.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 55 FRONT LOADING GARAGES AND 25 UNITS WITH J SWING GARAGES.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING DEVIATION FROM FRONT YARD DEVIATION FROM 25 FEET TO 20 FEET.
THE APPLICANT SINCE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, THE APPLICANT ADDED AN EIGHT FOOT TRAIL WITH, WITH THE DETENTION WITHIN THE DETENTION POINT THAT CONNECTS THE TO EIGHT EIGHT FEET TRAIL WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE TO THE WEST.
THE TRAIL IS IS ALSO CONNECT, CONNECTS TO THE SIDEWALK ALONG WEST WINTER, GREEN ROAD
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AND OLD YOU CALL IT TRAIL.THE PROPOSED TRAIL HAS BEEN AM AMENITIZED WITH BENCHES AND A GAZEBO WITH BENCHES IN THE DETENTION POINT AREA.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING ACCESS FROM WHAT WE CALL ROAD INTO THIS PROPOSED SUBDIVISION TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC ALONG WEST WINTERGREEN ROAD INTO THE SUBDIVISION TRAFFIC GENERATION REPORT DONE BY THE APPLICANT INDICATES THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL NOT NEED TO SUBMIT IT.
TRAFFIC IMPACT IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED AT THE TIME OF OUR PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.
AND UH, AFTER THE PLANNING ITS OWN COMMISSION MEETING, UH, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THIS, THIS PLAN RIGHT HERE, WHICH NOW SHOWS A, A TRAIL FROM A TRAIL WITHIN THIS POND AREA RIGHT HERE.
THIS TRAIL IS PROPOSED TO BE EIGHT FEET WIDE AND THEY'RE ALSO SHOWING SOME BENCHES.
THIS TRAIL IS GOING TO CONNECT THIS OPEN SPACE RIGHT HERE AND THEN THIS, UH, UH, TO THE, THIS, THIS TRAIL WILL CONNECT TO THE SIDEWALK ALONG WINTERGREEN.
AND THAT ALSO THAT TRAIL THAT, UH, SIDEWALK CONNECTS TO THIS ONE ON THE OLD
THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING AN ENTRANCE THROUGH HERE, WHICH WAS NOT THERE BEFORE.
SO NOW THEY NOW HAVE, UM, ENTRANCE FROM WEST WINTERGREEN AS WELL AS FROM OLD
SO THOSE ARE THE CHANGES THAT THE APPLICANT, UM, IS PROPOSING AT THIS POINT AS WELL AS A GAZEBO THAT IS GOING TO BE WITHIN THIS OPEN SPACE RIGHT HERE IN THE DETENTION POND.
AND THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO BE DOING IN THE DETENTION POND, THE SIDEWALKS, THE GAZEBO WITH BENCHES AND SOME TREES LANDSCAPING.
AND ON JULY 9TH, 2023, A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE APPEARED IN FOCUS DAILY NEWSPAPER STAFF MAILED 96 NOT NOTIFICATIONS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET AND 400 FEET OF THE SUBJECT'S SITE.
ONE LETTER WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR WITH THREE LETTERS RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
AND ON THIS MAP, THE AREA SHOWN IN BLACK IS THE SITE, THE SUBJECT SITE, AND THE AREA IN BLUE IS THE 200 FEET NOTIFICATION AREA.
THE AREA IN PAPER IS THE 400 FEET NOTIFICATION AREA.
AT THE JULY, 2023 MEETING, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST BY A PHOTO FIVE ZERO.
AND DUE TO THIS COMMISSION COMMENDING RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL, THE ORDINANCE MUST BE APPROVED BY A SUPER MAJORITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE PER SECTION 10.83.
10.8 E TWO OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO AMEND PD ONE.
ONE IS IS PRESENTED WITH 30% JW AND 70% FRONT LOADED UNITS AND AS WELL AS REDUCE FRONT BUILDING LINE SET BACK FROM 25 FEET TO 20 FEET FOR J JW UNITS.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
THE APPLICATION THE APPLICANT IS A PRESENTATION THAT THEY WANT TO PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, AT THIS TIME COUNSEL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S REMOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BY TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COUNSEL ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN AT THE TIME WITH THE APPLICANT.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND IS THIS THE POINT? OKAY.
MADAM MAYOR COUNCIL, I'M JAY CHILDS.
AND, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS, UH, PROPOSED SUBDIVISION TO YOU.
WE THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD ADDITION TO THE CITY OF DESOTO, UH, AND, UH, I THINK
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IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.AND AT THIS TIME, UH, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE, UH, MRS. MISS, UH, ANGELIA DUNBAR, AND SHE'S GONNA EXPAND HER VISION ABOUT THIS SUBDIVISION FOR YOU.
I'M A, UM, DESOTA RESIDENT, AND I WANTED TO TELL YOU GUYS FIRST, LET ME APOLOGIZE ON THE PLANNING ZONING FOR GOING AHEAD WITH THE DECISION, BUT LEMME EXPLAIN WHY MEG WHITMAN, THE CEO OF EBAY PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE PRICE OF AN INACTION IS GREATER THAN THE COST.
THE PRICE OF INACTION IS GREATER THAN THE COST OF A MISTAKE.
AT THAT TIME, YOU GUYS WEREN'T AWARE WHO THE BUILDER WAS.
YOU DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME AND MY PARTNER, AS WELL AS YOU DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT WE'RE FACING WE'RE UP AGAINST A TIME WINDOW TO CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY.
AND WE'VE ALREADY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY IN THE, UH, OWNER OF THE LAND HAS ALREADY BEEN CONTACTED BY ANOTHER, ANOTHER DEVELOPER TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE PROJECT.
SO WE HAD TO MAKE A DECISION TO TRY TO PROCEED.
AND THEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME.
I AM A SOLAR RESIDENT FOR 10 YEARS.
I'M A MEMBER FOR 15 YEARS, A DISCIPLE CENTRAL COMMUNITY CHURCH, ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS, AS WELL AS I'M A HOME BUILDER.
MY FIRST TWO HOUSES I BUILT IN DESOTO BACK IN 20 15, 20 16, WHICH WAS IN SILVER CREEK.
I WENT AND BUILT IN DALLAS, AS WELL AS CAME BACK TO DESOTO AND BUILT IN THE GATED COMMUNITY.
EAGLE POINT, ONE OF THE NICEST HOMES THERE STILL TO THIS DAY.
AND SO WE ARE LOOKING TO DO GREAT THINGS HERE IN DESOTO.
I WENT TO PRAIRIE VIEW, TEXAS.
I STARTED AND COMPLETED PHASE ONE, WHICH WAS 120 APARTMENT UNITS BECAUSE I WANNA GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITIES.
I WORKED UNDER GREAT PEOPLE, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP THE AREA AND GIVE DESOTO WHAT IT WANTS VERSUS SPENDING OUR MONEY IN DALLAS AND OUR RESIDE IN DESOTO.
ALSO, I HAVE SOMEONE SPEAKING ON MY BEHALF, SEAN JOHNSON.
AND THEN THIS IS CORDIUS COLEMAN, MY PARTNER WILL COME UP AFTERWARDS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.
YOU HAVE YOUR BUDGET AHEAD OF YOU TONIGHT, UH, FOR ADOPTION.
I KNOW IT'S A DAUNTING TASK WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UM, SB TWO REQUIREMENTS AND ONLY ABLE TO GROW YOUR BUDGET THREE AND A HALF PERCENT PER YEAR.
AND SO, UH, KUDOS TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR DECISION.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE, UH, TIRELESSLY WORKING ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DESOTO.
UM, BUT LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT WAS, UM, FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH, UH, DUNBAR COMAN AND ASSOCIATES AND SOME OF THE, UH, PD REQUIREMENTS AND THE DEVIATIONS.
BUT I WILL FAST FORWARD TO SOME OF THE, UM, AMENITIES THAT WERE CALLED OUT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE LOOKED AT WAS YOUR 2023, UH, BUSINESS PLAN, AS WELL AS YOUR 2020 ADOPTED PARKS MASTER PLAN AND SOME OF THE GOALS THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT COULD ADDRESS.
SO YOU LOOK AT THE BEAUTIFUL CITY GOAL NUMBER 10, DEVELOPING, UH, ZONING REQUIREMENTS THAT REQUIRE GREEN SPACE AS PART OF A RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND GOAL NUMBER EIGHT, BEING CREATED, ACTIVE ADULT USE AREA IN THE CITY PARK, UH, DOING SOME RESEARCH.
WE HAVE SEEN THAT, UH, THAT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED OVER PARK.
UM, AND THEN YOUR 2020 PARKS MATH PLAN CALLED OUT SOME AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY, UH, THROUGHOUT YOUR, UH, THROUGHOUT YOUR PARK SYSTEM.
OF COURSE, BEING A PARKS PROFESSIONAL FOR 25 YEARS, UM, FORTUNATE TO BE A MEMBER, ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PARKS AND RECREATION ADMINISTRATION.
ONE OF THE KEY FOCUSES THAT WE'VE HAD THIS PAST YEAR IS HOW WE FOCUS ON JUSTICE, EQUITY, DIVERSITY, AND INCLUSION.
AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT DEVELOPERS LIKE THIS, COMING TO A COMMUNITY THAT VALUE PARKS AND DESOTO HAS A WONDERFUL PARK SYSTEM, HOW COULD THIS DEVELOPMENT POTENTIALLY MEET SOME OF THE UNMET UNFUNDED NEEDS, UNMET NEEDS THAT YOUR PARK SYSTEM CURRENTLY HAS? AND SO WHAT WE DID, WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE, UH, GOALS THAT YOU ALL HAD SET FORTH.
AND SO NUMBER ONE BEING TRAILS.
AND THIS CAME DIRECTLY FROM YOUR, YOUR ADOPTED 2020 PARKS MASTER PLAN, UH, TRAILS, DOG PARK, AND INCLUSIVE PROGRAMMING.
SO WE'LL GO THROUGH JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS, UH, KINDA SEEING IN WAY OF SOME OF THE GREEN SPACE THAT IS PROVIDED IN THIS DEVELOPMENT TO COMPLIMENT THE BENCHES, THE TRAILS IN THE GAZEBO THAT'S ALREADY BEING PROPOSED.
YOU SEE A HEAT MAP THAT WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR MASTER PLAN, UH, AREA, A BEING A AREA OF OPPORTUNITY.
THAT'S ONE OF THE AREA THAT IS THE AREA WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL TAKE PLACE.
SO WHEN YOU SEE THAT KIND OF, UH, AREA THAT WAS PRIME FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SOME THINGS AND TO REALLY MEET NATIONAL STANDARDS AS FAR AS TOO MANY TO WALK TO A PARK.
AND SO THAT AREA, I'M TRYING TO SEE THE CURSOR ON HERE.
IT'S AREA, AREA, AREA, AREA A HERE, UM, THAT'S IDENTIFIED.
THIS IS WHERE THAT DEVELOPMENT WOULD TAKE PLACE.
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WENT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.LOOK AT YOUR PROPOSED AND FUTURE TRAILS.
YOU ALREADY SAW, AND YOU HEARD FROM YOUR PLANNING MANAGER HOW THIS TRAIL WILL CONNECT TO THE OVERALL TRAIL NETWORK HERE IN THE CITY OF DESOTO.
AND SO THESE TYPE OF OPPORTUNITIES LEND FOR WAYS TO KIND OF POTENTIALLY MEET SOME OF THE UNFUNDED NEEDS THAT YOU ALL HAVE.
BECAUSE EVERY CITY, REGARDLESS OF OF YOUR AFFLUENT LEVEL OR YOUR, YOUR RESERVES, YOU, YOU'RE CHALLENGED WITH HOW YOU CAN ADDRESS THE NEEDS THAT YOU ALL ADOPTED IN YOUR MASTER PLANS AND YOUR GOALS.
THESE TYPE OF DEVELOPERS COMING IN, BEING HISTORICALLY UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESSES, UM, ONLINE TO BE MWPE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THERE'S EQUITY IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESSES.
THESE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS SHOW THAT NOT ONLY ARE THEY HERE TO BUILD HOUSES, BUT HOW DO THEY GROW COMMUNITY? AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT, UH, NRPA HAS SET FORTH THIS YEAR.
YOU ALL ARE VERY ACTIVE IN, UH, JULY PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH CELEBRATIONS, BUT HOW THESE DEVELOPMENTS ACTUALLY GROW COMMUNITY.
SO HAVING MINORITY, UH, BUILDERS COME IN AND ADDRESS COMMUNITY NEEDS SAYS A LOT FOR THE GOVERNING BODY HERE IN THE CITY OF DESOTO.
SO A DOG PARK, YOU LOOK AT THAT GREEN SPACE IN THE, IN THE DETENTION POND AREA, THAT'S A PRIME OPPORTUNITY.
I KNOW IT'S A TIME AND STUDY THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL REQUIREMENTS WILL BE FOR THAT DETENTION POND.
BUT YOU ALSO HAVE, UH, A DEVELOPER THAT'S, THAT'S WILLING TO PUT IN THESE TYPE OF AMENITIES TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE NEEDS.
THAT WAS GOAL NUMBER FIVE IN YOUR, UH, PRIOR PRIORITIZATION OF NEEDS LIST.
AND THAT IS AN AREA THAT COULD BE REPROGRAMMED FOR THAT.
AND SO WE JUST KIND OF PUT A FEW SKETCHES OF, OF WHERE THAT COULD END UP IN THAT DEVELOPMENT.
HOW DO YOU ADDRESS, UH, INCLUSIVE PROGRAMMING FOR ALL AGES? THAT WAS LISTED AS A HIGH PRIORITY.
YOU HAVE ONE OF A PHENOMENAL RECREATION CENTER, CAPITAL ACCREDITED.
UM, HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE UP AND COMING, UM, THE UP AND COMING GENERATIONS, AND THOSE WHO WANT TO, UM, MOVE TO THE CITY OF DESOTO ACTIVE COMMUNITIES LIKE THIS COULD, YOU COULD BENEFIT FROM OUTDOOR FITNESS COURTS.
AND SO THE DEVELOPER HAS LOOKED AT OPPORTUNITIES TO PUT ACTIVE, UH, FITNESS COURTS ALONG THE TRAIL THAT IS PROPOSED IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT'S THESE TYPE OF THINGS THAT AGAIN, OFFER A OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL ELEMENT FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE A WITHIN 10 MINUTE WALK TO A PARK OR NEARBY THE RECREATION CENTER.
AND THEN LOOKING AT YOUR PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE, UH, IT REQUIRES EITHER $500 PER HOUSING UNIT.
THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, IS SLATED FOR 80.
UM, SO YOU LOOK AT, UH, OR ONE POINT, UH, ONE AND A HALF ACRES PER 100 HOUSING UNIT.
BUT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, UH, SLATED FOR OVER THREE ACRES OF GREEN SPACE.
SO THAT'S DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF WHAT YOUR PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE REQUIRES, UH, AT THIS TIME.
AND WE'LL TAKING ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS WE WAIT FOR THE END OR HAVE A COUNCIL MADE.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? YES.
AT THIS TIME, I BELIEVE WE HAVE CARDS FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO SPEAK.
WE STILL HAVE THE ENGINEER FINISH THIS PART.
AND THEN ALSO, ONE THING I DIDN'T MENTION IS THAT WE, UM, DID LISTEN TO YOUR CONCERNS LAST TIME AS FAR AS THE P AND Z.
SO WE ARE GONNA GO G IT, AND THEN WE DO HAVE THE THREE ENTRIES INTO THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
SO, UH, LET'S LIKE TO JUST WALK THROUGH REAL QUICK.
UH, WE ACTUALLY PREPARED PD ONE 11.
ORIGINALLY, UH, IT WAS IN THE PD OR THE SF 20.
THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL, UH, PERSON THAT DID THIS WAS AN ENTREPRENEUR.
HE WASN'T A DEVELOPER AND BASICALLY CHOSE LARGE LOTS BECAUSE HE COULD AVOID INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS AND USE MANTLE BROOK WINTERGREEN AND OLD HICKORY AS HIS ENTRY POINTS.
AND IF, IF YOU'VE SEEN THE, THE ORIGINAL PD, YOU SAW THE, I THINK THE SMALLEST LOT IN IT WAS TWO ACRES.
UH, AND THE DUNBAR, LLC HAS A DIFFERENT VISION, OBVIOUSLY, TO COME IN WITH A SF EIGHT, UH, ZONING.
UH, IT'S CONGRUENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, UH, AND IT WORKS WELL WITH THE LAYOUT THERE.
SO, UH, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST FOR THE SF EIGHT, UH, IS NOT ONLY FOR LOT COUNT, BUT WE THINK IT'S A MORE EFFICIENT USE OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, SO THAT BEING SAID, THE REQUIREMENTS, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS, UH, THE 1550 IS A REQUIRED PAD.
WE'RE GONNA GO TO 2,500 AS A MINIMUM PAD, 8,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
UH, THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY WE ARE 8,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, BUT THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE IN THE DEVELOPMENT IS ABOUT 99 9900 SQUARE
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FEET.SO THERE ARE SOME 8,000 FOOT LOTS, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE IN THERE THAT, OR SEVERAL IN THERE THAT ARE OVER 10,000 FEET IN THE CUL-DE-SAC AREAS ALSO.
UH, SO, UH, AGAIN, MEETING THE, THE SFA REQUIREMENTS VALLEY WAIVER, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE FRONT ENTRY GARAGE.
THAT'S, UH, THE, THE STAFF HAS, UH, REALLY HELPED US AND WORK WITH US ON THAT.
AND THEN ON THE, UH, JSW LOTS, WE'D LIKE TO ASK FOR THE 20 FOOT FRONT YARD TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF FOOTAGE TO THE BACKYARD IN THOSE LOTS.
UM, AND OUR EXPERIENCE NOW IS THAT, THAT HOME BUYERS WANT THE BACKYARD.
SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT REQUEST.
UH, AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES OF THE FRONT ENTRY, UH, THE J SWING INTERIOR AND THE JW AROUND THE OUT, UH, AND THAT EXISTS EVERYWHERE HERE IN DESOTO.
UH, WE, WE DID THE, UH, HOMESTEAD DEVELOPMENT AT BOLTON BOOM, DANIELDALE, AND THERE'S A MIXTURE OF J WINGS AND FRONT ENTRY GARAGES THERE.
PHASE ONE IS BUILT OUT, AND, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A SUBDIVISION I'M PROUD TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH.
UH, SO THOSE ARE JUST EXAMPLES OF THE J SWINGS.
UH, THIS IS A BIT OF A DETAIL.
THE, THE DETAIL ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE JUST SHOWS HOW THE FRONT ENTRY, UH, GARAGE WOULD FIT.
IT COULD BE MIRRORED, AND THEN HOW THE J SWING FITS.
AND YOU SEE THE, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE BACKYARD'S AFFECTED BY, BY PUTTING THE J SWING IN, AND THEN THEREFORE THE REQUEST FOR THE REDUCED FRONT YARD TO GIVE SOME BACKYARD A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE, UH, TO, TO HAVE IN THE BACK.
AND IT, WE'VE POINTED OUT THERE THE, UH, THE AESTHETICS OF THE FRONT ENTRY.
UH, THE CONCERN WE, WE'VE HEARD IS JUST OPEN GARAGES AND SEEING PEOPLE'S, PEOPLE'S STUFF IN THEIR GARAGE AND SO FORTH.
UH, I THINK, ANGEL, YOU CORRECT ME.
UH, I BELIEVE WE, WE ARE CERTAINLY WILLING TO GO TO, UH, CARRIAGE HOUSE, GARAGE, GARAGE DOORS TO MAKE A MORE APPEALING DOOR.
WE DID THAT AT THE HOMESTEAD ALSO.
UH, AND THEN IT, IT'LL, BUT IT DOES AFFECT THE BACKYARD.
IF WE, IF WE GO THERE, WE GIVE UP, WE'LL GIVE THE CARRIAGE HOUSE ON THAT.
I SAY WE'LL GIVE, WE CERTAINLY WILL, WE WILL, UH, SUPPLY THAT, UH, IF IT HELPS.
UH, AND THE DIFFERENCES IN 'EM ARE, I THINK, ARE, ARE, UH, OBVIOUS THERE.
UH, THIS IS JUST A, A KIND OF A SUMMARY OF THE, THE USES THE CITY HAS ALLOWED.
AND, UH, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT MOTIVATED US TO GO FOR THE SFA, BECAUSE YOU, THE CITY SEEMS TO BE RE RECEIVE IT WELL.
UH, AND SO THAT'S JUST A SUMMARY BASICALLY OF, UH, THE, THE A THE ACTIVITY THAT'S OCCURRED, AND MOST RECENTLY BEING HERE IN JUNE WITH, UH, HOMESTEAD EAST, UH, AND ALMOST ALMOST MIRRORING OUR, OUR PROJECT AND OUR REQUEST.
SO, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S IS INFORMATIONAL.
UH, THE FRONT YARD DEVIATION AGAIN, IS TO SUPPLY THE BACKYARD WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE ON THE J WING.
LOTS ON THE FRONT ENTRY LOTS WILL REMAIN WITH THE 25 FOOT FRONT YARD.
AND THAT WILL PROVIDE A 20 FOOT BACKYARD IN THE, THE WAY THE LOTS ARE LAID OUT.
AND, AND JUST TO MAKE, MAKE CLEAR, UH, IT IS A DETENTION POND.
THIS POND WILL NOT RETAIN WATER.
UH, WHEN IT'S RAINING, THERE WILL BE SOME WATER IN IT, BUT IT WILL DRAIN AND EVACUATE AND GO BACK TO A DRY, USABLE AREA.
UH, OUR, OUR PRELIMINARY LOOK AT IT RIGHT NOW IS THIS POND WILL, EVEN IN A HUNDRED YEAR EVENT, THIS POND WILL FILL UP TO ABOUT TWO AND A HALF FEET DEEP.
IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE A VERY BIG DRAINAGE BASIN FOR THIS PROJECT, AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF RUNOFF DEVELOPED.
SO THE NERD ENGINEERS, IT, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE MUCH DETENTION.
UM, AND SO IT MAKES IT REALLY AVAILABLE TO USE AS AN AREA THAT, AS POINTED OUT, COULD BE USED AS A DOG PARK.
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THE LANDSCAPING, UH, I THINK THAT'S IT.IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE THERE, ESPECIALLY JUST THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT.
'CAUSE THE TOPOGRAPHY SUPPORTS IT ALREADY.
IT DOESN'T REQUIRE MUCH EXCAVATION.
UH, SO THAT'S PART OF OUR GREEN SPACE.
AND, UH, WE WILL, IF THIS, IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD AS WE HOPE IT WILL, UH, WE WILL INITIATE IN THE ENGINEERING SIDE OF THIS A TIMING STUDY.
UH, WE USE THIS IN THE HOMESTEAD DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND THE TIMING STUDY BASICALLY JUST LOOKS AT HYDRAULIC AND HYDRAULICS.
AND IN THE HOMESTEAD PHASES ONE AND TWO, IT ALLOWED US NOT TO HAVE TO DO A DETENTION POND.
UM, AND I WON'T BORE YOU WITH ALL THE NERD ENGINEERING, BUT THE, THE PEAK IN 10 MILE CREEK GOES BY BEFORE THE WATER OUT OF THE BRANCH THERE GETS TO IT.
AND SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT BACK, IT DOESN'T AFFECT BACK WATER, WATER SURFACES.
AND WITH THIS LITTLE SEASONAL, UH, FEATURE WE HAVE HERE ADJACENT TO US, AND BETWEEN US AND, AND CLUB PARK, UH, IT'S, IT'S A SEASONAL DRAINAGE.
UH, AND IT'S A VERY SMALL DRAINAGE BASIN.
AND WE THINK THE TIMING STUDY MAY ACTUALLY RESULT IN THE, IN THE SAME THING.
AND WE MAY NOT EVEN NEED TO DETAIN STORM WATER.
IN THAT CASE, THAT AMENITY AREA BECOMES EVEN BETTER BECAUSE WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE THE, THE, THE HOLE OUT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, AND JUST, AND FLATTEN THE GRADES OUT AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE USABLE AND, AND, UH, FRIENDLY.
UH, WE'VE SEEN THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO WITH THAT, IF WE SHOULD, IF WE SHOULD NEED DETENTION.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE END OF THE ENGINEERING.
UH, WE HAVE DONE A, A, UH, TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND WE'VE BEEN INFORMED BY CITY STAFF THAT, UH, THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC DEVELOPED BY THE, BY THE 80 LOTS WON'T REQUIRE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
AND, UH, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING TRAFFIC, WE HAVE A, AN ASSOCIATE, UH, DAVE DAVID BOSKY WITH US, WHO HAS WORKED WITH US FOR YEARS.
AND HE CAN ASK, HE CAN ADDRESS AND HELP US WITH ANY TRAFFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE INVOLVING THIS.
UH, SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THE TRAFFIC.
UH, THIS, THAT'S THE, THE TRAFFIC WORKSHEET THAT BASICALLY, UH, SHOWS THE EVIDENCE.
WE DON'T, WE DIDN'T NEED A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
AND WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED A LITTLE SECTION HERE ABOUT, UH, IF THIS, IF THIS POSSIBLY WANTED TO BE A GATED COMMUNITY, UM, THE SITE PRESENTS A FEW CHALLENGES FOR THAT, UH, IN PRIMARILY BECAUSE, UH, MANTLE BROOK ROAD EXISTS, AND IT'S A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
AND SO IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A GATED SITUATION, UH, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE A GATE.
BUT EVERYWHERE OUR, OUR PROPOSED ROADS TOUCH MANTLE BROOK, UH, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE A GATE AND THEN OBVI.
AND THEN AT, UH, OLD HICKORY AND AT WINTERGREEN, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A GATE.
UH, BECAUSE MANTLE BROOK IS PUBLIC, WE CAN'T PUT A GATE ACROSS MANTLE BROOK OFF OF WINTER GREEN.
IT'S, WE CAN'T BLOCK A PUBLIC STREET.
SO THAT PRESENTS A LOT OF CHALLENGES TO DO THAT.
UH, CERTAINLY NOT SAYING IT CANNOT BE DONE, BUT IT, IT, IT'S VERY ATYPICAL, UH, BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE OF THE EXISTENCE OF MANTLE BROOK IN THE PROPERTY.
UH, SO, UH, WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT AND THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
UH, WE CERTAINLY, WE, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE, WE AGREE WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY'VE, UH, RECOMMENDED.
BUT WE JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE THAT WE HAD, WE HAD THOUGHT ABOUT THIS.
AND, UH, AGAIN, IT CAN CERTAINLY BE DONE, BUT, UH, I BELIEVE THE, I BELIEVE THE PUBLIC STREETS AND THE LAYOUT THAT'S DONE NOW WOULD BE MUCH PREFERABLE.
IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE CONDUCIVE TO THAT, TO THAT AREA.
UH, AND AGAIN, THIS IS SOME OF THE HOME DESIGNS THAT, UH, ANGELIA AND, UH, UH, DUNBAR LLC HAS DONE.
AND VERY, THEY'RE VERY NICE HOMES.
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AGAIN, JUST HOMES.AND I BELIEVE THAT ENDS THE PRESENTATION.
SO, UM, WE WILL BE READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND HELP AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
UH, THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR PROCTOR, UH, CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR OUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE DONE OUR HOMEWORK AND WE ARE HERE TO PROVIDE AMBIANCE TO THE CITY.
AND TO ENHANCE THIS CITY, I HAVE THE HONOR OF WORKING WITH PASTOR KING AND DISCIPLE CENTRIC COMMUNITY CHURCH.
AND AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW, WE ARE HERE AND APPEAL IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND WE ARE PROVIDING VALUE.
AND DUNBAR COLEMAN WILL DO THE EXACT SAME THING.
I AM THE, UH, CFO FOR DISCIPLE CENTRIC COMMUNITY.
SO I GET TO LISTEN EVERY DAY TO CITIZENS' CONCERNS, UH, THE LACK OF TAX BASE AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT WE'RE PRESENTING BEFORE YOU, UH, GETS SUGGESTION ADVICE FROM THAT.
WE HAVE ALSO HEARD ALL OF THE, UM, OPPORTUNITIES BROUGHT AND ARISEN BY OUR NEIGHBORS FROM CLUB PARK, THORN, TREE MAN BROOK, ET CETERA.
UM, WE ARE NOT HERE TO LOWER THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE DOUBLING THE SPACE.
OUR HOUSES WILL START AT A MINIMUM OF 500,000.
SO WE WILL NOT BE LOWERING ANY OF THEIR PROP VALUES.
WE HAVE HEARD YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC PATTERNS.
WE ARE WILLING, AS DISCUSSED ON THE SLIDES, ADDING A THIRD EXIT OUT ON THE OTHER STREET TO ALLEVIATE THAT PAIN POINT FOR THOSE CONCERNED CITIZENS.
UM, SO AT THIS TIME, WE'LL CONCLUDE OUR PRESENTATION AND LEAVE IT OPEN TO YOU GUYS.
AT THIS TIME, UH, WE DO HAVE CARDS FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO SPEAK, UM, AS SHE CALLS THOSE CARDS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT, UH, VERSUS ACTUALLY COMING UP TO THE PODIUM AND SPEAK.
WHEN WE CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE MAKE THAT KNOWN AT THIS TIME, AND WE WILL READ, UH, WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT, UH, VERSUS YOU COMING UP TO SPEAK.
MR. MCKEEN, YOU'RE GOING ON RECORD AS FOR THE PROJECT IN LIEU OF SPEAKING.
DAMON WASHINGTON, STEVE KENNEDY.
ANGELA STAMPLEY AGAINST LK ELLI.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE YOU CAN'T SPEAK, BUT IF YOU DID NOT WANT TO SPEAK, YOU CAN LET US KNOW.
MS. ELLI, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? NO.
ARE YOU FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT? YES.
OH, HE IS COMING UP TO SPEAK PAGE.
AND MR. PAGE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE ONLY FOR THE RECORD.
ACTUALLY, I THINK WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS TO STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
UH, ORIGINALLY THERE WASN'T AN ENTRANCE OFF OLD HICKORY.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.
I AM CONCERNED THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS LOWER THAN IT SHOULD BE.
I THINK IT SHOULDN'T BE ANYTHING LESS THAN 2000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S IN MANTLE BROOK AND CLUB PARK AND AROUND IT, I THINK IT'S, UH, UH, SHOULDN'T BE LESS THAN 2000.
THE BIG CONCERN I GUESS I HAVE FOR THE RESIDENTS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I THINK YOU'RE CREATING A HUGE PROBLEM IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOME COMMON AREA PARKING IN THAT DEVELOPMENT.
IN CLUB PARK WHERE I LIVE, WE FIGHT THAT.
EVERY TIME SOMEBODY HAS A PARTY OR A BIRTHDAY PARTY OR WHATEVER TAKES PLACE, I'VE ACTUALLY HAD TO RUN PEOPLE DOWN TO GET MY CAR OUT OF THE GARAGE, 'CAUSE THEY PARK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND CREATE A HUGE PROBLEM.
SO I REALLY THINK THERE OUGHT TO BE MUCH MORE PARKING THAN WHAT I SEE.
AND IF YOU SET BACK, CHANGE THE SETBACK TO 20 FEET, YOU'RE EVEN GONNA MAKE THE PARKING PROBLEM WORSE, I WOULD THINK, BECAUSE YOU'RE MOVING IT CLOSER TO THE STREET.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY, MY BIG CONCERN.
THE PARKING AND THE, UM, THE ENTRANCE ON OLD HICKORY AND THE SQUARE FOOT.
THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT MR. PAGE.
STUART WILLIAMS. STUART WILLIAMS. ARE YOU HERE? STEVE? STEVE, STEVE WILLIAMS? YES.
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WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK OR, OR YOU WANNA GO ON RECORD AS FOR OR AGAINST, PLEASE.PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
NAME'S STEVE WILLIAMS AND, UM, RESIDE IN DESOTO.
AND, AND FOR THE RECORD, I'M NEUTRAL.
AND I ONLY SAY THAT SIMPLY SO THAT EVERY SIDE CAN LISTEN.
THE ONE, UH, THE FIRST THING IS THE DEVELOPER.
UM, THE, THE DEVELOPER, NOW, CLEARLY, THEY, THEY WENT OVER ALL OF THE, THE FINE FINER POINTS.
UH, THEY'RE OFFERING WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING.
UM, THEY'RE OFFERING 2,500 SQUARE FEET, 500,000 HOME GATED COMMUNITY.
AND WE'LL COMMIT 'EM TO THAT, UH, THREE INGRESS EGRESS, 8,050 SQUARE FEET, LOTS TO 9,000 WITH 80% OF 'EM BEING, UM, 9,000 SQUARE FEET OR ABOVE GREEN SPACE.
CLEARLY EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT.
UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT ISSUE IN EVERY CITY, THE TAX BASE, IT'S PARAMOUNT.
UM, UM, AND, AND, AND, UM, IT'S CRITICAL FOR ALL RESIDENTS THE TAX BASE THAT IS SO, DON'T KNOW.
UH, AND, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THE DEVELOPERS LIKE THAT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE CON THEY'RE CONSCIENTIOUS OF OUR CONCERNS.
OKAY? NOW, AND, AND, AND THIS IS FOR THE CITY 'CAUSE IT'S THREE PRONG, UH, THE CITY, UM, CLEARLY UNDERSTANDS THE TRAFFIC ISSUES.
AND WE'RE GOING TO HOLD YOU GUYS TO MAKING SURE THAT THE TRAFFIC ISSUES ARE ELIMINATED TO THE DEGREE THAT WE CAN, AND A TIMEFRAME CLEARLY THAT WE CAN.
AND, UM, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
FOR THE RECORD, I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR PRIMARY CONCERNS ARE QUALITY OF LIFE AND PROPERTY VALUES.
HOWEVER, WE CANNOT PR STOP PROGRESS.
IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH US OR WITHOUT.
UH, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY BEFORE US, UM, TO, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PLOT NEXT TO US, UM, AND TO MITIGATE OUR CONCERNS AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, BEING FAIR TO ALL SIDES, AND I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS, WE HAVE TO LEARN.
MR. WILLIAMS, THAT CONCLUDES YOUR TIME.
WE HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO, YOU CAN COMPLETE YOUR THOUGHT, BUT THAT CONCLUDES YOUR TIME.
WE HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO INCORPORATE THE OLD SCHOOL WITH THE NEW SCHOOL.
MR. WHITE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, CITY OF RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD.
I'VE BEEN HERE 45 YEARS IN DESOTO.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE, UH, MEADOWBROOK HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
I SAW A PRESENTATION THERE THAT BASICALLY SAID, UH, ACCORDING TO OUR FUTURE LAND PLAN, IT'S LOW, UH, DENSITY HOUSING.
THIS, I THINK IS HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING.
I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT'S ACCURATE.
THEY SAID THAT THERE'S A FOUR LANE ROAD ON WINTERGREEN.
MY CONCERN IS THAT THERE'LL BE SOME 130, 140 CARS COMING OUT OF THAT SUBDIVISION ONTO WINTERGREEN.
THE SENIOR CITIZENS WHERE I LIVE HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING ACROSS THAT ROAD NOW.
SO I THINK IT'S A, UH, IT IS A SAFETY, UH, CONCERN.
THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS A PROCESS CONCERN.
UM, OR FIRST OF ALL, THOSE PICTURES WE SAW THO THOSE LOOKED WONDERFUL.
THEY'RE NOT ON 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE ON, BUT THEY'RE NOT 70 FOOT LOT WIDE LOTS.
UM, THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS THE SIGN JUST WENT UP TWO WEEKS AGO.
THE, THE, UH, CITY, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING SENT ME A NOTE SAYING IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE MAY.
IT WENT UP THERE AFTER THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, WHICH IS NOT RIGHT.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T GET ANY PEOPLE EXPRESSING ANY CONCERN FOR OR AGAINST.
THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY DO THAT.
LAST YEAR WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING THE POA, UH, DIFFERENT POA PRESIDENTS GET AN ADVANCE WARNING IF IT'S CLOSE TO THEIR AREA.
OKAY? I DIDN'T GET ANY, WHEN I ASKED THE CITY, THEY SAID, WELL, GEE, WE DIDN'T GET TO IT BECAUSE STAFF WAS ON VACATION OR OUT ALL OF JULY.
OKAY? IF STAFF'S OUT ALL OF JU ALL OF JULY, YOU EITHER HAVE A MANAGEMENT PROBLEM OR YOU, UM, HAVE OTHER THINGS YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH.
THANK YOU MR. WRITING FOR THE RECORD, OR YOU FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT? I AM AGAINST.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD, AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
MY NAME IS DARRYL ENGELBRECHT.
UH, I'VE BEEN IN DESOTA FOR, UH, ABOUT 30 YEARS AND
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SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE HERE.THE, UH, EVERY DAY I DRIVE, I DRIVE OUT OF, UH, MEADOWBROOK ESTATES, DRIVE DOWN WINTERGREEN, AND, UH, DRIVE DOWN OLD HICKORY.
IT'S, UH, UH, GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE WITH THE TRAFFIC SITUATION, UH, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, TRAFFIC BACKS UP FROM, UH, WESTMORELAND TO PAST MANTLE BROOK.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THE STUDY WAS DONE, BUT IT, UH, CERTAINLY WASN'T, UH, RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT, UH, MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, THAT WOULD BE OKAY.
BUT, UH, UH, I JUST DON'T SEE IT.
SO I SEE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE, UH, TRAFFIC AND YES, I'M VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO THIS.
GOOD EVENING, MR. SHE PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM MAYOR.
I'VE BEEN, MY FAMILY HAS OWNED OUR PROPERTY AND CLUB PARK SINCE 2001.
WE DIDN'T OPPOSE, UM, THE CHANGE IN THE ZONING IN 20 2005 WHEN IT WAS CHANGED TO THE ZONING THAT EXISTS CURRENTLY.
WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT.
I WOULD LIKE FOR, UM, MY FRIENDS IN MANTLE BROOK AND ALSO IN CLUB PARK TO STAND THOUGH AND LET MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL KNOWS HOW MANY OF US ARE HERE THIS EVENING.
OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT, I HAVE TWO PRIMARY CONCERNS.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE SWINGING GARAGE, ALTHOUGH I'M A FAN AS A J SWING GARAGE, UH, HOMEOWNER MYSELF.
UM, PRIMARY CONCERN FOR US, OR FOR ME AND MY HOUSEHOLD IS THE TRAFFIC.
I KNOW THAT THEY'VE CITED TO A 2015 DESOTO, UM, YOU KNOW, ZONING, UH, INTENTION TO, TO HAVE WINTERGREEN BEFORE LANES.
AND, UM, WHEN CLUB PARK RESIDENTS ATTENDED THE PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, MEETING FOR THOSE THAT HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT, UH, TAPE, THE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, BOARD ACTUALLY SORT OF LAUGHED AND SAID, YES, IT'S IN THE CITY'S LONG-TERM PLAN, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
THEY SAID THEY HOPED THAT PERHAPS THERE WOULD BE FUNDING FOR, UM, THAT KIND OF CITY, UH, STREET EXPANSION WITHIN THE NEXT 10 YEARS, AND THEN IT MIGHT BE 10 YEARS BEYOND THAT BEFORE IT WAS ACTUALLY COMPLETED.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH 80 HOMES ON THIS LOT AT THIS TIME.
WE AREN'T OPPOSED TO WORKING WITH A DEVELOPER.
UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK LOVELY HOME EXAMPLES.
UM, DO AGREE WITH MR. PAGE, WITH RESPECT TO THE OVERFLOW PARKING.
THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IN CLUB PARK.
WHILE WE ARE FANS OF THE GATED COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, UH, NOT WITHOUT, UM, CONCERNS THERE IN TERMS OF KEEPING A FUNCTIONING GATE.
UM, OVERALL, AGAIN, NOT OPPOSED TO REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THIS ISN'T IT.
MS. ELLI, I APOLOGIZE, YOUR TIME HAS CONCLUDED.
MR. SMITH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
MY NAME IS KAMRON SMITH AND I'M A RESIDENT OF DESOTO, TEXAS.
UM, I COME STANDING AND FIRST AND FOREMOST, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I'M FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT AND I'VE HEARD A LOT OF CONCERNS.
AND I WAS GONNA SPEAK ON SOME OF THE PARK MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT, SOME OF THE, UH, NEEDS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO ACHIEVE.
AND MR. JOHNSON, UH, SPOKE ON THAT.
I HAPPENED TO BE AN EXC CITY EMPLOYEE WHO ACTUALLY DID THE MARK PARKS MASTER PLAN PRIOR TO THIS MASTER PLAN BEING UPDATED.
SO, I KNOW THAT THOSE ARE SOME CONCERNS, AND THOSE ARE SOME, SOME THINGS THAT ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US AS RESIDENTS.
I HEAR SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND, AND FOUR LANE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES LATER DOWN THE ROAD.
THE ONLY WAY THAT WE GET THERE AS A CITY IS WE BRING IN REVENUE AND INCREASE THE TAX BASE.
AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
I THINK WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT IS, UH, VERY REASONABLE.
AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY, UH, TO GET BEHIND AND, AND, AND HELP PUSH ALSO WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, COMING FORTH AND SAYING THAT THEY'RE GONNA GATE, GATE THE COMMUNITY, UM, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE OFF SOME OF, UH, THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY OF MAINTAINING SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SOME OF THE PUBLIC, UH, WATER SEWER STREETS AND SO FORTH.
UH, SO I THINK THIS IS A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYONE.
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THANK YOU MR. SMITH FOR COMING OUT.PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
GREETING MADAM MAYOR MARCUS KING, UH, CITY OF DESOTO.
UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I LOVE DEMOCRACY.
I THINK EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT AND SHOULD SHOW UP TO COUNCIL MEETINGS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR VOICE IS HEARD.
UH, WHEN IT COMES JUST TO BASICS, WHEN IT COMES JUST TO PAPER, LOOKING AT THE FACTS, UH, I DON'T THINK IT CAN BE PRETTY MUCH DISPUTED THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT FITS THE SOTO.
UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ALL THE OPINIONS ARE GREAT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE SIT, HERE IS THE PEOPLE THAT SIT HERE THAT HAVE TO SEE HOW YOU WANNA MOVE YOUR CITY FORWARD, HOW YOU WANNA MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD.
THIS WILL NOT BE THE LAST PROJECT.
THIS WILL NOT BE THE LAST DEBATE, BUT WE HAVE QUALITY PROJECTS.
I THINK THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR AROUND GREAT THINGS ON PAPER.
CAN THEY ACTUALLY BE ACTUALIZED? I'VE WORKED WITH BOTH OF THESE IN INDIVIDUALS FOR OVER 20 YEARS, FROM PROJECTS, FROM EVEN THE VERY CHURCH THAT MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN DESOTO AND DALLAS COUNTY VOTE IN THAT PROPERTY, SAT THERE FOR YEARS, VACANT A RAGGEDY BUILDING, AND NOW WE SEE THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT IT'S WORTH AND THE VALUE THAT IT BRINGS.
THE QUESTION ON THE TABLE IS NOT IF IT CAN BE DONE TO THE QUALITY, UH, STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE, BUT CAN IT BE MAINTAINED? UH, CAN THE GATE NOT LOOK LIKE THE GHETTO GATE? I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET AT.
UH, THIS IS NOT SOUTH DALLAS, BUT IF WE WANT TO BECOME THAT WAY IN SOME WAYS, THEN WE'LL KEEP FIGHTING PROJECTS LIKE THIS.
UH, LET ME, LET ME MAKE A STATEMENT, UH, REGARDING SUBMISSION OF CARDS.
UM, FOR, WE REQUIRE THAT THE CARDS BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF YOU HAVE SUBMITTED A CARD AFTER WE'VE STARTED THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE WILL TAKE YOUR COMMENTS, UM, AND WE CAN HAVE THEM FOR THE RECORD IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST.
BUT, UM, THE COMMENTS, THE CARDS WE, WE HAVE, WE MEET THOSE BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING STARTS.
SO IF YOU HAVE SUBMITTED A CARD AFTERWARDS, WE WILL TAKE IT INTO PUBLIC RECORD IN TERMS OF WHETHER YOU ARE FOR OR AGAINST SUSAN CURRAN, CURRAN AGAINST RONNIE SMITH, OR SMITE.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR, FOR, FOR THE RECORD AND THE CITY OF RESIDENCE.
AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
RO RO SMITH, A LIMITED CLUB PARK, SEVEN 12 VILLAGE RANGE, JUST ADJACENT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
UM, BASED ON THE PURPOSE OF EXPENSE EXPERIENCE AT CLUB PARK, IT TAKES A LITTLE MANAGEMENT TO DIRECT US THIS WORK.
WELL, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF VOLUNTEER HELP IN OUR, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MAKES IT WORK.
WE'RE EXPOSED TO TOO MUCH GREED HERE.
I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT TOO MUCH IN A SMALL PACKAGE.
THERE'S NOT ROOM FOR THE 80 HOUSES THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THERE'S, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH EXTRA GRAIN SPACE THAT'S LAID ASIDE.
IT'S NOT, NOT ANYTHING WELL THOUGHT OUT ABOUT HOW IT'S GONNA BE MANAGED AFTER IT'S BUILT.
YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHO'S GONNA MANAGE IT? IS IT GONNA BE HIRED OUT? IS IT GONNA BE DONE VOLUNTEER? I THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA TO, OBVIOUSLY, THE, THE TRAFFIC IS A TERRIBLE PROBLEM.
IT'S REALLY GONNA BE A HASSLE, AND IT'S JUST TOO MUCH IN A SMALL SPACE.
THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TO SPEAK TONIGHT, MR. SMITH, DEBORAH WEBB.
AGAIN, THANK YOU MS. WILL FOR COMING OUT.
DELISA HICKUM BOTTOM AGAINST, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.
RICHARD MARKS AGAINST NANCY MARKS.
I MARCUS, MARCUS MEPE IS PRONOUNCED.
AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT TO, UH, TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL ALLOW A, UM, A SPACE, UM, LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES
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DUE TO THE, DUE TO TIME FOR THE APPLICANT TO HAVE ANY REBUTTAL, UM, BASED ON CITIZEN COMMENTS.UM, SO IF ONE OF THE APPLICANTS WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK, UM, AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL ALLOW FOR THAT AT THIS TIME.
BUT JUST PLEASE MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ACCORDING TO WHAT CITIZENS COMMON CONCERNS WERE.
UH, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE DAVID BOSKY.
HE'S A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND HE'S ALSO EXPERTISE IN TRAFFIC.
DAVID, IF YOU COULD GIVE US A GENERAL LOOK.
I'M DAVID BOSKY WITH DAVID J BOSKY ENGINEERING, UH, BURLESON, UM, JUST TO START OUT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW IT'S A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY THROUGH A PROBLEM ON WINTERING TODAY WITH CONGESTION DURING THE PEAK HOURS, ANYTHING THAT DEVELOPS ON THAT PROPERTY, OF COURSE, IS GONNA ADD TRAFFIC TO IT.
UM, AS THAT, AS APPLICANT SPOKE, THERE'S ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER LOOKING MAYBE TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY LATER DOWN THE ROAD IF, IF THEY DON'T BUY IT.
SO THAT PROPERTY WILL DEVELOP EVENTUALLY.
THERE'S AN ALREADY EXISTING PROBLEM ON WINTERGREEN, JUST TO PUT IN PERSPECTIVE ABOUT EVERY HA ONE HOUSE GENERATES ABOUT A LITTLE LESS THAN 10 DAILY TRIPS A DAY.
SO EVERY HOUSE YOU ADD IS GONNA ADD ROUGHLY 10 TRIPS AND A LITTLE LESS THAN ONE TRIP DURING AM PEAK, WHICH IS TYPICALLY SEVEN TO EIGHT, AND THEN ONE DURING THE LITTLE LESS THAN ONE DURING THE PM PEAK, WHICH IS FIVE TO SIX.
SO THE TRAFFIC WILL, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, YOU WILL ADD TRAFFIC TO WINTERGREEN, AND ESPECIALLY IN EFFECT TO WESTMORELAND INTERSECTION.
YOU KNOW, JUST FROM GLANCING OVER AND LOOKING AT IT, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA ADD 20 TO 30 CARS TO THE WINTERGREEN, UH, WESTMORELAND INTERSECTION DURING A PEAK AND ROUGHLY 20 TO 35 MORE VEHICLES DURING THAT PM PEAK TIME AT THAT INTERSECTION.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT A HUGE VOLUME, BUT OF COURSE, BEING A SINGLE LANE ROADWAY, YOU KNOW, NO TURN LANES AT THE INTERSECTION, THAT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA HAVE A SLIGHT IMPACT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A VACANT PIECE TODAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING YOU ADD TO, IT'S GONNA DEFINITELY ADD TRAFFIC TO THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY DO PAY, UH, IMPACT FEES THAT DO HELP PAY FOR ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS IN THE CAPITAL PLAN.
I HEAR IT'S A WAYS OUT, BUT THOSE IMPACT FEES DO HELP ADD CAPACITY IN MAKING INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IMPACT THEY PUT ON THE ROADWAY SYSTEM, THOSE FEES ARE SUPPOSED TO COVER THAT IMPACT.
DO YOU HAVE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
UM, THIS, THIS PORTION WAS JUST FOR A REBUTTAL TO CITIZEN COMMENT.
SO AT THIS TIME, COUNSEL, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUGHES, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COUNSEL, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, AYE.
THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
COUNSEL, AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM SECOND BY, UH, MAYOR PROAM HUGHES TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
UH, COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC? YES.
MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER CHISHOLM.
AND PLEASE, UH, MIND YOU THAT, UH, WE'RE DOING TWO MINUTES PER COUNCIL PERSON.
SO MY REASONING FOR, UM, THE MOTION TO APPROVE IS, IS, IS FAIRLY SIMPLE.
I'VE LIST, I WATCHED THE PNZ, UM, AND THE FALLOUT THEREOF.
ONE THING I WANNA SAY, I LOVE CLUB PARK BECAUSE ONE THING ABOUT IT, IF THERE'S A PLANNING AND ZONING CASE IN THAT AREA, THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW UP AND SHOW UP LOUD.
AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
AND EVERY TIME THEY'VE SHOWED UP, I HAVE LISTENED AND VOTED ACCORDINGLY.
HOWEVER, I, WITH THE DEVELOPER IN THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS PROVIDED, IT IS CLEAR THAT THEY OVERT STOOD WHAT, WHAT WAS SAID IN THAT PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.
WE HAVE, UH, SFA THAT'S LARGER THAN WHAT THE CITY REQUIRES.
THERE'S ADDITIONAL, UM, OUT, OUT OUTINGS, WHICH WAS WHAT WAS SAID.
I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN WITH TRAFFIC BECAUSE I ADMIT, I DRIVE DOWN WINTERGREEN TOO, AND I, AND, AND I SEE THE BOTTLENECK THAT HAPPENS DURING RUSH HOUR.
BUT HERE'S THE DEAL WITH SLOW.
WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE IN AN AREA WITH SLOW DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S SLOW INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
IT'S THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG, WHICH COMES FIRST.
IN THIS CASE, DEVELOPMENT HAS TO COME FIRST BEFORE INFRASTRUCTURE CAN EVEN, WE CAN EVEN BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS PLACED.
AND I, I APPRECIATE THE TRAFFIC ANALYST BRINGING UP IMPACT FEES.
ONE OF THE GREAT COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT LEFT OUR COUNCIL THIS YEAR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN PATRICK, WAS THE AUTHOR OF IMPACT FEES.
AND THAT ALONE ALLOWS US TO CREATE FUNDING TO EXTEND OUT, UH, WIDENING ROADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH ARE OFTEN, UM, THE CITY DOESN'T LOOK AT.
SO IT'S, IT'S A FUNNEL FOR FUNDING FOR EXACTLY THAT.
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THAT, YOU DON'T GET THE WIDENING OF THE ROAD.WE NEED TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE COULD WE ADD A TRAFFIC LIKE, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT WITHOUT ANY DEVELOPMENT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO WATCH OUR MEETING FROM YESTERDAY.
AND I HOPE YOU ATTEND THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS BECAUSE THAT WILL CHANGE HOW WE LOOK AT THE NEEDS OF, OF CITY SERVICES.
WHAT HELPS THAT? WHAT AIDS THAT TAX ROLL HEADS AND BEDS ON TAX ROLL.
I'M, I'M, I HAD, I SAID TWO YEARS AGO WHEN I WALKED IN THIS SEAT THAT I'M NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, BUT I'M AGAINST DEVELOPMENT.
THIS MAKES SENSE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THAT THIS SHOULD DEFINITELY BE CONSIDERED BY THE COUNCIL.
COUNSEL, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, JUST QUICKLY THANK MS, UH, DUNBAR AND MR. CC, CC.
I DON'T REMEMBER YOUR LAST NAME, BUT, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
UH, THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT AND I WAS VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
I WANT TO GO ON RECORD IN SAYING THAT I WAS EXCITED BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY DOES NEED TO BE, UH, DEVELOPED.
I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN, UM, THAT, THAT THE CONCESSIONS OR THE, THE THINGS THAT WERE GIVING TONIGHT WAS NOT DONE.
UH, WHEN WE FIRST WENT TO P AND Z.
THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION AS TO WHY THOSE THINGS WERE NOT DONE.
I THINK IT WOULD'VE GIVEN THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, AND COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO DIGEST IT, UM, UH, FOR STAFF.
I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT, UH, THAT, UH, THAT CONCERNED EVEN WITH THAT MENTAL ROAD GOING OVER, UM, ACROSS THE STREET.
BUT I WANTED TO PERSONALLY JUST GO ON THE RECORD AND SAY THANK YOU, UH, FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR INTEREST IN THIS AREA.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCESSIONS.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, UH, TONIGHT.
THE LAST THING IS THAT WE, WE NORMALLY DON'T LOOK AT GREEN SPACES AT AS DETENTION.
DETENTION PONDS AS GREEN SPACES IS NOT NORMALLY.
SO NO MATTER HOW THIS GOES TONIGHT, UM, UH, HOPEFULLY, UM, UH, GOD'S WILL, IT WILL PREVAIL.
UH, BUT IF NOT, UH, YOU WOULD, UH, GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE GREEN SPACES BECAUSE I THINK WE WERE VERY, VERY CLOSE WITH THOSE CONCESSIONS.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER, THEN WE'LL HEAR FROM MAYOR PROAM HUGHES.
UM, SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.
I THINK, UM, THERE WAS SOME GOOD POINTS THAT YOU GUYS MADE AND, AND IT WAS APPRECIATED THAT YOU DID LISTEN.
UM, BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN THE GATE IF YOU PUT THE GATES IN? UH, THAT IS HUGE.
UH, IS THERE AN HOA HERE? UM, IS THERE AN EXPECTATION THAT THE HOA IS GONNA TAKE CARE OF THE TRAIL? WHO'S GONNA MAINTAIN THE DETENTION POND? UH, DETENTION PONDS, IN MY OPINION, ARE NEVER GREEN SPACE BECAUSE THEY DO, THEY, THEY PROVIDE A RISK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'RE USED FOR.
UM, I DO LIKE THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL.
UM, BUT, UM, HOW WIDE ARE THE STREETS INSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS? IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN ACTUAL DEVIATION IN THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, AMOUNT OF, UH, SETBACK IF THE STREETS ARE ALREADY SMALL AND THEN YOU ASK FOR THAT DEVIATION THAT MAKES FOR A SITUATION WITH PARKING.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS.
AND, UM, WE WILL ALLOW FOR THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S QUESTIONS, UM, WHILE WE'RE ON THAT TOPIC.
AND THEN WE'LL HEAR FROM MAYOR PRO TEM HUGHES.
AND THEN DR. MARKS HAS HER LIGHT ON, BUT WE WILL ALLOW FOR YOU ALL TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS SHE, SHE POSED.
I ACTUALLY HAD SOME OF THE SAME QUESTIONS REGARDING AN HOA AND, UM, THE COMMON AREA PARKING CONCERN AND JUST HOW WIDE THE STREETS WERE AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE GATE, AND JUST THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AS WELL.
SO THANK YOU AND, AND YOU AND THE, AND THE TRAIL.
WHO, WHO MAINTAINS, WHO MAINTAINS THE TRAIL AND THE GATES.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION, UH, THE STREETS WILL BE 27 FEET WIDE, WHICH IS BIGGER THAN YOUR TYPICAL STREET, UH, HERE IN SOME OF THE AREAS OF DESOTO.
UH, TO ANSWER YOUR OTHER QUESTION, WE ARE GONNA HAVE AN HOA WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE, UH, ROADS AS WELL AS THOSE, WE ARE NOT SAYING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A DETENTION POND, BUT AT THIS EARLY STAGE, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT ANALYSIS THAT HAPPENS THIS EARLY.
UH, WE'VE BUILT SEVERAL, UM, HOUSES AND, AND AREAS WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS AS WELL AS I BUILT SOMETHING IN LOUISIANA.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS FINALIZED.
WE GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE AND PARTNER WITH YOU GUYS.
IF YOU GUYS NEED SOMETHING BIGGER, WE ARE WILLING TO GIVE ON THAT TO ADDRESS YOUR PARKING QUESTIONS.
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IDENTIFIED AT LEAST FOUR LOTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN BE CONVERTED TO PARKING SPACES.UM, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER TO BEST SEE WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO.
DID THAT SUFFICE WITH YOUR QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY, THIS IS THE ONE LAST QUESTION.
HOW DID WE GO FROM PD PD 20 TO PD EIGHT? I MEAN, I, I KNOW WHY YOU SAID YOU DID IT, BUT THAT'S A HUGE JUMP.
SO MS. PARKER, WE WENT FROM THAT BASED ON SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE CITY OF DESOTA THAT HAS RECENTLY PASSED.
JUST RECENTLY, HOMESTEAD, UM, PASSED AND IT WAS THE SAME DEVELOPMENT SFA WITH 100% FRONT ENTRY LOT.
AND SO WE WERE SEEKING TO BE BEING THAT THAT'S RECENT, UH, FOLLOWING THAT MODEL.
BUT THE HOUSES THAT ARE SITTING NEXT TO YOU ALL IN CLUB PARK, ARE THEY, WHAT ARE THEY? CLUB PARK IS SF 12, UM, MANTLE BROOK IS SF EIGHT, I BELIEVE.
AND THERE'S ZERO LINES AND THERE'S ZEROS LINES.
SF SEVEN IN MANEL BROOK? NO, IN CLUB PARK.
LOT LINES WE'RE ZERO LOT LINES.
SO WE ARE GOING BIGGER THAN THAT AS WELL AS WE'RE BIGGER PAD SITES, BIGGER HOUSES, AS WELL AS IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMPS IN THAT AREA, THEY'RE GOING FOR ABOUT BETWEEN THREE TO 400 FOR CLUB PARK.
WE ARE COMING IN INITIALLY AT 500,000 AND GOING UP, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OTHER AREAS IN THE AREA THAT ARE BEAUTIFUL AND WE'RE LOOKING TO INCREASE UPON.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HUGHES COMMENTS QUESTION.
THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, I JUST, UH, THANK YOU TO THE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE HERE WHO HAVE PRESENTED THANK YOU TO OUR CITIZENS WHO CAME OUT.
DURING THAT PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, MEETING, DID YOU TAKE THE CONCERNS OF ALL THE CITIZENS AND TRIED TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENT SO THAT YOU COULD COME BACK TONIGHT? YES, WE DID.
AS YOU CAN SEE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS FROM CLUB PARK, AND WE APPRECIATE THEIR PASSION ON THIS, IS THAT THEY HAVE TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
COULD YOU SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MIC? WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE WATCHING ONLINE AS WELL.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THEY CAN HEAR.
UH, ONE OF THE BIGGEST STATEMENTS FROM THE CLUB PARK IS THAT THEY HAVE TRAFFIC PATTERNS.
THEY DO HAVE, UH, CHALLENGES AT TIMES GETTING ACROSS THERE.
SO I'M DEFINITELY AWARE OF THAT AND SENSITIVE TO THAT.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE OPEN UP A THIRD ENTRANCE OFF OF, UM, O HICKORY THAT WILL FACILITATE, UM, THAT ENTRANCE AND EXIT THERE.
THAT WILL SHOULD TAKE AWAY THE, UH, NECESSITY TO ADD ANY TRAFFIC LIGHTS AT SOME OF THOSE CONSTITUENTS, UH, EXPRESS AS WELL AS WE ARE WILLING TO HAVE THE PUBLIC PRIVATE, UM, PARK, THE DOG PARK IS ON YOUR GOALS AS WELL AS THAT, UH, WALKWAY, WE EXTENDED THAT TRAIL.
WE DID NOT INITIALLY HAVE A TRAIL GOING IN FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE PUT A PUBLIC PRIVATE THAT WILL GO AROUND THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IN HOPES THAT WE CAN TIE IN WITH THE CITY OF DESOTOS GOALS FOR BIKE AND PARK TRAILS.
SO YOU BASICALLY HEARD ALL THE CONCERNS? YES.
AND WHEN MEGAN MADE ALL THE ADJUSTMENTS? YES, WE DID.
UH, WE ALSO HAD A HUNDRED PERCENT FRONT ENTRANCE.
WE LISTENED TO YOU GUYS AND BACKED THAT AWAY AND INCREASED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
COR WELL, WE INITIALLY HAD 2,500 MINIMUM.
COUNSEL, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? POINT OF ORDER I WAS NEXT? YES, DR. MARKS.
AND THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR, UM, BRINGING THIS, UH, TO US.
I JUST HAVE A POINT OF INFORMATION IF YOU DON'T MIND.
I SEE THAT ONLINE YOU HAVE CURRENT PROJECTS AND THEN YOU HAVE PAST PROJECTS.
CAN YOU, UH, JUST TELL US EXACTLY WHERE THOSE ARE? I KNOW THAT, UH, SHE, MS. DUNBAR SAID THAT SHE DID APARTMENTS IN PRAIRIEVILLE AND THEN YOU, UH, I FORGOT YOUR NAME, BUT YOU WERE A PART OF DANIEL VILLE FARMS. IS THAT IT? YES, MA'AM.
AND I'M TRYING TO SEE THE CONNECTION HERE.
SO MR. J CHARLES IS OUR ENGINEERING FIRM THAT WE HIRED, UM, BECAUSE HE'S WORKED THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF DESOTO.
AND BUILT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS, AS RECENT.
AND SO WE WANTED TO, UH, PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY THAT'S ALREADY DOING THIS AND FOLLOWING THAT MODEL.
UH, REGARDS TO MS. DUNBAR, SHE DID GO DOWN TO PRAIRIE VIEW A AND M AND BUILD APARTMENTS.
UM, WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE ARE CURRENTLY, AS YOU SAID, WE STAYED ON OUR WEBSITE WORKING ON FOUR HOUSES WITHIN THE CITY
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OF DALLAS.WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE IN LOW INCOME AREAS TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE ARE NOT AT ALL TRYING TO BE GREEDY.
UH, MATTER OF FACT, WE ARE GIFTING ONE OF THOSE HOMES AWAY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
UM, SO WE, WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS TO BE GREEDY.
UM, I'VE BEEN BLESSED IN MY LIFE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF MY FAMILY BOTH HERE AND ABROAD.
AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO THIS.
AND THAT'S, THIS PROJECT WILL NOT AFFECT THAT.
UM, JUST FOR THE RECORD, FOR, UM, UH, FOR OUR RESIDENTS, I AM THE, UH, LIAISON FOR PLANNING AND ZONING.
UH, I CAN SAY THAT THEY DID ACTUALLY LISTEN TO ALL OF THE CONCERNS, UM, THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH ON THAT NIGHT.
I ACTUALLY FOLLOWED ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.
UH, THEY TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC, THE ACCESS ROADS.
THEY WENT BACK, PUT, UH, ACCESS ON OLD HICKORY.
UM, YOU HAVE ONE THERE ON, UH, THE FRONT ENTRANCE AS IT IS ALREADY.
THEY LISTENED TO, UM, GREEN SPACES AND EVERYTHING THAT CAME UP.
AS I LISTENED TO THEIR PRESENTATION TONIGHT, IT LOOKED ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE THEY'RE PRESENTING TONIGHT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE GOT A DENIAL FROM PLANNING AND ZONING ZONING, BUT BRINGING FORTH TONIGHT IF HAS COMPLETELY CHANGED.
SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, UH, FOR YOUR, YOUR INFORMATION AND FOR YOUR DIGESTION AS WE GO ACROSS.
UM, COUNSEL AT THIS TIME, UH, COUNCILMAN BYRD, DID YOU HAVE COMMENTS? WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, WELL, I'M SORRY.
WELL, WE ARE DOING ROUNDS RIGHT NOW, SO WE WANNA GO AND SEE IF ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE START ANOTHER ROUND.
I I DO HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION.
YOU, UM, YOU GATED THE COMMUNITY, BUT IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO G IT AT MANTLE BROOK, WOULD THAT BE PREFERRED INSTEAD OF ALL OF THOSE LITTLE MINI GATES? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION? AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MANTEL BROOK, BUT MANTEL BROOK, I GUESS THE, THE, THE IDEA WAS THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A PUBLIC ROAD COMING THROUGH.
AND SO SINCE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PUBLIC ROAD COMING THROUGH, YES WE WOULD ENTERTAIN THAT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY ABOUT CURRENT, UM, PROJECTS THERE.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN UTILIZING THAT SPACE, UH, FOR SOME EXPANSION.
I NOTICED SOME GRAVEL THERE, ET CETERA.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT CURRENTLY IS GOING ON, BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY WOULD ENTERTAIN A CONVERSATION WITH THEIR CITY BONDS OR WHATEVER THAT CAN HELP GO IN THAT DIRECTION.
RAPHAEL, ARE YOU DIFFERING YOUR TIME? SURE THING TO COUNCIL? NO, NO, I'M NOT.
UM, NO, I WANTED TO TO, TO MAYBE GET AN UNDERSTANDING FROM CITY STAFF.
UM, BASED OFF THAT QUESTION, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT REQUIRES FURTHER INVESTIGATION? MAY MAYOR COUNSEL, UH, THAT IS A, UM, DECISION THAT THE COUNCIL CAN MAKE IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT ROAD, UH, ABANDONED.
IT COULD BE DONE DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS.
AND THEN, YEAH, ONE, ONE THING THAT WE'LL WANT TO LOOK AT THOUGH IS WHAT THE MASTER PLAN FOR THAT AREA CALLS FOR, WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A PLAN TO CONTINUE MANTLE BROOK NORTH OF THERE.
I I'M NOT SURE THAT WE KNOW THAT ANSWER RIGHT NOW.
DO YOU KNOW, I I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT, IT IS NOT.
SO IT CALLS FOR A TERMINUS THERE AT WHEN IT HITS, UH, WOODLAND HILLS, IT'S SUPPOSED TO END THERE.
WOODLAND HILLS IS SHOWN IS RIGHT OF WAY, BUT EVEN WOODLAND HILLS IS NOT SHOWN ON OUR 2015.
SO, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT OF WAY ABOVE THAT ROAD THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON ROAD EXPANSION OR CONTINUATION ROAD EXPANSION? NO, SIR.
AND THEN AS IT RELATES TO THE DETENTION POND, HE, HE MADE THE COMMENT, THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT THAT'S DETERMINED LATER.
AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS, IS THAT HE IS INCORRECT.
UH, HE USED THE EXAMPLE OF, UH, DANIEL DI AT HOMESTEAD.
UH, ENGINEERS WILL ALLOW YOU TO DO A TIMING STUDY.
THE TIMING STUDY WILL DETERMINE IF RETENTION OR DETENTION IS NEEDED COMPARED TO WHAT'S HAPPENING DOWNSTREAM.
HOMESTEAD AFTER THEIR TIMING STUDY DID NOT NEED IT.
SO WHEN THEY DO THEIR ENGINEERING STUDY, WHICH IS TYPICALLY NOT DONE AT THIS PLANNING STAGE, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY SHOW THAT A RETENTION OR DETENTION IS NOT NEEDED.
BUT WE REQUIRE THEM TO SHOW IT BECAUSE WE KNOW AS THE MS FOUR, I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION.
AND THEN THE SIZE OF THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOME, THE MINIMUM IS THE MAXIMUM IS MINIMUM IS 20.
THE MINIMUM IS 2,500 SQUARE FEET AND WE HAVEN'T DETERMINED THE MAXIMUM YET.
UM, I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
UM, MYSELF, UM, COUNCILMAN PARK, I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN YOU.
WE'LL START, START OVER AND THEN WE'LL ALLOW YOU TO HAVE YOUR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
UM, I HAVE QUESTIONS, UH, REGARDING THIS BECAUSE AGAIN, UH, I LIKE MY COLLEAGUES, I CAN APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFULNESS THAT WENT BACK INTO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
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BURR SAID, WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE GOTTEN THEM PRIOR TO TONIGHT TO HAVE KIND OF HAD A CHANCE TO DIGEST THEM, TO KIND OF WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND EVEN WITH THOSE CHANGES, SOME OF THE, SOME OF OUR THOUGHTS AND QUESTIONS AROUND IT, UM, BEFORE TONIGHT.SO I, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, YOU MENTIONED THE DEADLINE, UM, THAT YOU'RE FACING RIGHT NOW.
IS THAT A DEADLINE, MEANING LIKE AN OPTION ON THE PROPERTY? OR WHAT, WHAT IS THE DEADLINE AND HOW DOES IT IMPACT, HOW DOES TONIGHT'S DECISION, HOW WOULD OUR DECISION TONIGHT IMPACT THAT DEADLINE? SO WE WERE HOPING TO ACHIEVE, UH, TO BE ABLE PRIOR TO CLOSING, HAVE YOU GUYS CONSENT TO MOVE FORWARD.
HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT, IT DOES NOT SET A BAR WHERE WE CANNOT PROCEED AND STILL PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.
UH, THAT IS JUST THE OPTION THAT WE WERE LOOKING TO HAVE, UH, BEING THAT WE HAVE PROCESS FOR MORE ASSURANCE YES.
AS YOU PURCHASING THE PROPERTY, YES.
WE DO NOT WANNA BE PUT IN A POSITION WHERE THE LAND JUST SITS FOR YEARS.
CERTAINLY I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO SPEND OUR CAPITAL TO MAKE INVESTMENTS.
AND IS THAT ACTUAL DATE SOMETHING YOU CAN SHARE IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING? UH, NO, IT'S NOT.
UM, I DID HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
WELL, I, I GUESS MY QUESTIONS WERE, AGAIN, REGARDING THE, UM, THE HOA AND THE COMMON AREA PARKING IN TERMS OF THAT, AND I, I WAS, I MISSED A FEW OF THE PIECES REGARDING THE DETENTION POND.
MR. BREWER, CAN YOU COME BACK UP AND REITERATE THAT I WAS SPEAKING WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL AND OUR CITY MANAGER REGARDING ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD? YES, MA'AM.
FIRST, ABOUT THE HOA WE MANDA MAN MANDATE THAT IN OUR PD, THAT THEY WILL BE A REQUIRED, MANDATED, HOA, THE HOA WILL BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN ANY RETENTION, DETENTION, PONDS, SIDEWALKS, SCREENING WALLS, ANYTHING THAT'S IN THAT SITE, THEY WILL BE MANDATED BECAUSE OF OUR ORDINANCE THAT HAS REGULATIONS THERE AND PENALTIES AND VIOLATIONS.
IF THEY DON'T COMPLY WITH IT, IT'LL BE A ZONING VIOLATION IF THEY'RE NOT, UH, COMPLYING WITH IT.
SO WE PLACE THAT LANGUAGE THROUGH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S HELP IN OUR PD ORDINANCES.
I, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS, UH, THE, THE PAVEMENT COMMENT.
THEY ARE MEETING THE MANDATED REQUIREMENT WIDTH, 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY 27 PAVEMENT WIDTH, WHICH IS CURB TO CURB.
AFTER THE CURB, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER 10 FEET TO GO BACK BEFORE THEIR PROPERTY LINE START.
SO FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE, START 10 FEET FROM BEHIND THE CURB IS WHEN YOU WOULD EITHER GET 20 FEET, IF YOU APPROVE THAT, OR TO 25.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A DISTANCE OF 30 OR 35 FROM THE CURB, NOT A SMALLER AREA.
PAVEMENT STOPS AT THE CURB, WHICH IS 27.
THEN YOU HAVE 10 FEET ON BOTH SIDES TO GIVE THE CITY REQUIRED 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, COUNSEL, WE'RE GONNA START ANOTHER ROUND OF TWO MINUTES, UM, STARTING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER.
I JUST WANTED TO ASK, BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAILS, UH, THAT I DON'T THINK THAT GOT ANSWERED.
UH, WHO ACTUALLY IS GONNA MAINTAIN THAT TRAILS? UH, THE H-O-A-S-E STATE.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE, UH, NUMBER OF J SWINGS, WAS THERE A, I MEAN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH FRONT ENTRY PARKING, I MEAN, FRONT ENTRY, UH, HOMES, THE PARKING, YOU KNOW, JUST TO BE HONEST, IS NOT GREAT AT ALL.
AND THEN YOU ADD A MAILBOX IN THERE.
IF THERE'S A MAILBOX, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A COMMON AREA WHERE THE MAILBOXES ARE, BUT PEOPLE ARE PARKING ON TOP OF PEOPLE, ON TOP OF PEOPLE.
AND THE FRONT ENTRY GARAGES DO THAT, UH, BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING IN THEIR ACTUAL GARAGE OR IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.
WITH JW, YOU DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE LEISURE THERE.
I JUST, I, I REALLY WONDER WHY YOU WENT WITH MORE FRONT ENTRY THAN YOU DID J SWINGS.
UH, WE WENT WITH THAT TO MAXIMIZE, AS CO LEMME STEP BACK.
AS YOU CAN SEE DURING COVID, THERE ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES WHERE, UH, RESIDENTS WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR, UH, BACKYARDS.
AND SO WE WANTED TO BE IN LINE WITH THAT AND PROVIDE THE MOST SPACE FOR KIDS TO PLAY.
WHEN YOU PUT J SWINGS, THAT TAKES AWAY A LOT OF YOUR YARD, UH, FROM THE BACKYARD.
YOU BASICALLY HAVE A 10 FOOT YARD AT THAT POINT.
UH, I HAVE TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS.
I DO NOT WANT MY KIDS PLAYING IN THE FRONT YARD.
UH, AND SO WE FELT IT WAS BEST WORKING WITH THAT STUDY AND THE PATTERNS WITHIN DESOTO THAT WE WOULD TRY TO MAXIMIZE THAT BACKYARD SPACE.
I, I WANT, I DO WANNA ADDRESS THE, THE COMMENT THAT I DON'T, WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED.
AND THAT WAS THE, UM, ACCUSATION FROM ONE CITIZEN ABOUT THE DELAY
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IN THE POST, THE SIGNAGE, AND, UM, IS THAT FACTUAL? AND REGARDING ALSO THE COMMENT, LIKE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY WAS WITHIN DOING, WITHIN WHAT WE SAID, WHAT THE CITY SAID IT WOULD DO AS REGARDS TO PUBLIC NOTICES ON THE HEARING PIECE.WE ARE MANDATED BY THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND THE CITY'S ZONING ORDINANCE TO SEND OUT WRITTEN NOTICES IN ADVANCE OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
WE ARE MANDATED BY BOTH THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND OUR LOCAL RE REGULATIONS TO PUT A NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER, THE WRITTEN NOTICE THAT GOES FOR P AND Z.
WE STEP IT UP BY YOUR REQUIREMENTS.
WE, ON OUR NOTICE, WE PUT BOTH PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE PNZ AND THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE YOU.
STATE REQUIRES US JUST TO GIVE THE, UM, NOTIFICATION FOR PNZ, BUT WE DO BOTH THE NEWSPAPER, WE ALSO PUT BOTH DATES IN IT ALSO IN ADVANCE STATE REQUIREMENTS SAY THAT YOUR NEWSPAPER PUBLICATION IS ACTUALLY ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE P AND Z, BUT WE PUT IT IN ADVANCE.
I HAVE HAD TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO YOU LAST YEAR ABOUT OUR PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENTS.
UH, I'VE IDENTIFIED TO YOU THAT, UH, WE UNDERSTAND YOUR TASK OF REQUIRING US TO PUT SIGNS.
A SIGN IS NOT A, UM, STATE REGULATION, UH, RE REQUIREMENT, BUT WE HAVE FOLLOWED YOUR DIRECTION TO PUT 'EM UP.
I CANNOT TELL YOU PRECISELY WHEN THAT SIGN WILL PUT UP.
I'D HAVE TO INVESTIGATE WITH MY STAFF, BUT I HAVE MANDATED TO THEM THE REQUIREMENT THAT SIGNS ARE PLACED UP AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE ARE SORTING OUR PROCESS.
BUT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, I HAVE NOT DRIVEN THAT SITE TO KNOW 100% SURE THAT, UH, WE COMPLIED WITH THAT REQUEST.
THE MANDATED REQUEST IS THE NOTIFICATIONS AND THE NEWSPAPER.
UM, MR. BREWER TOOK UP ALL THE TIME.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL ALSO LIKE THIS COUNCIL, UH, UH, REQUESTED THAT, THAT BY STATE LAW YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY WITHIN 200 FEET, BUT WE SAID GO AN EXTRA A HUNDRED FEET, FOUR, 200 FEET TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE CAPTURED AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
AND THAT IS STILL HAPPENING, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
HOWEVER, WE WANNA MAKE THE DISTINCTION THAT THE ADDITIONAL 200 FEET IS SIMPLY A COURTESY.
IT IS NOT CALCULATED WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, LEVELS OF OPPOSITION FOR AND FOR THOSE.
BUT THAT IS DONE AS A COURTESY ONLY.
SO I DON'T WANT RESIDENTS TO GET THE MISCONCEPTION THAT IT'S CALCULATED IN THOSE OPPOSITION, UH, CALLS ALONG WITH THE HOA NOTIFICATIONS SPECIFIC TO THAT.
THOSE THINGS ARE DONE AS A COURTESY.
DR. MARKS, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, THOSE NOTIFICATIONS THAT HE SPEAK OF, I GOT A COPY OF THOSE EACH TIME THAT IT GOES OUT AS THE, UH, LIAISON.
COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS WILL BE REAL QUICK.
UH, BUILDING MATERIAL EXTERIORS.
COULD YOU BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC? WHICH PART YOU'RE TRYING? UH, THE EXTERIORS.
WHAT WOULD BE THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING? UH, STONE.
AND, UH, THERE IS A MASON AREA WALL AROUND THE UNITS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
COUNCIL MEMBER RAPHAEL? SURE THING.
WELL, FIRST I WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, UM, I APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPMENT.
I APPRECIATE THE TEAM BRING THIS FORWARD.
UH, I COMMEND YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND ALL THAT.
SO IT'S A PLEASURE TO KNOW THAT YOU LIVE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, BUT AS IT RELATES TO OUR COMMUNITY VALUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I'VE BEEN TRADITIONALLY THE DOGMATIC ONE WHEN IT COMES TO FRONT REAR FACING VERSUS, YOU KNOW, UH, FRONT, FRONT FACING VERSUS REAR FACING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE, HAVE ERECTED, UM, FOR SURE.
AND I'M STILL DOGMATIC ON HAVING OUR REAR FACING.
SO WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF HAVING SOME TYPE OF MIXTURE OF, SO I SEE THE MIXTURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF WENT ALONG WITH WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, UM, OR RECENT PAST.
UM, BUT ANY TYPE OF CONSIDERATION OF HAVING SOME REAR FACINGS AS WELL, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME OF THOSE OTHER PLACES THAT I OPTION, AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT HERE TO LIKE REPLAT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT REALLY WOULD, WOULD BE MY ASK, IS TO HAVE THAT PIECE OF THAT COMPONENT TO IT THAT HAS BEEN A COMMUNITY VALUE FOR DECADES HERE AND OR YEAH, YEAH.
A FEW DECADES HERE IN, IN, IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO I DEFINITELY HEAR FROM A DEVELOPER'S PO POINT OF VIEW, LIKE, HEY, WE WANNA MAXIMIZE SPACE AND PEOPLE WANT MORE BACKYARD, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THEN I HEAR THE FLIP SIDE OF IT TOO, INSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY.
I REALLY LOVE MY REAR FACING UNIVERSITY TO FRONT, FRONT FACING AND WHAT THAT PART LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
AND CONSIDERING THAT THERE HAS BEEN SO MANY AREAS THAT HAVE HAD THE REAR THE
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FRONT FACING VERSUS THE REAR FACING, YOU KNOW, JWS, YOU KNOW, MORE PALATABLE, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT MIX, YOU KNOW, FLIP RIGHT NOW IT'S LIKE A 30 70, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS THE 70 30 OR, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST ADDING IN THEIR REAR FACING.AS A REALTOR IN DESOTO AS WELL.
AND OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, I HAVEN'T SEEN A DEVELOPER DO REAR FACING ANY LONGER.
DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN ALLOWED, BUT IT HAS BEEN A VALUE TO HAVE THE REAR FACING AND THOSE TO HOMES STILL SELL.
SO WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION THAT IT'S HARD TO DO? UM, WE'VE DONE POLLS TOO, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE BACK, JUST FROM, AGAIN, THE REAL ESTATE STANDPOINT BECAUSE OF THE FACT OF THE SAFETY AND THEN THE BACK OF YOUR AREA OF YOUR HOUSE BECOMES TRASHED WITH THE TRASH PICKUP.
AND WE LOOKED AT THOSE OPTIONS.
SO I SEE THE DIFFERENT, I SEE THE SEE IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE, WHAT THE TRASH TO THE FRONT.
THAT'S WHAT I, I DO HEAR THAT.
MAYOR PROTE, DID YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THIS ROUND? I DID NOT.
AT THIS TIME, COUNSEL, UM, AND THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, AND THANK YOU FOR ENTERTAINING OUR QUESTIONS.
UM, AT THIS TIME, I'M GONNA ALLOW CITY ATTORNEY, I'VE BEEN HAVING SOME CONVERSATION.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN, SO WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UM, TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED, KEEP IN MIND AS PRESENTED THAT THE, THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT TEAM DID NOT, THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT YOU PRESENTED TONIGHT THAT'S NOT, UM, IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, SPECIFICALLY, UM, THE GATED COM, THE GATED PORTION.
THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT, UM, CAPTURE THAT, UH, OR NOR DOES IT CAPTURE IT ON THE SITE PLAN.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE ONLY, YOU ALSO PRESENTED SOME, UM, I GUESS SOME SPORTS AREAS ON YOUR TRAILS.
BUT I BELIEVE THOSE WERE JUST SUGGESTIONS, RIGHT? NOT THAT YOU WERE GOING TO CREATE THOSE.
JUST LOOKING FOR SOME CLARIFICATION.
ONE, ONE IS THE DOG PARK, AND THEN YOU CAN COME UP.
CAN YOU GO, ONE IS THE DOG PARK AND THEN THERE WAS SOME SPORTING FITNESS I FORGOT, FITNESS PADS, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL.
EVERYTHING THAT WAS PRESENTED IN, IN THE, IN THE PRESENTATION.
SO THE GATES, YES, WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT.
UH, IF IT'S NOT CALLED OUT IN THERE, I THINK WE SENT THAT IN.
IF NOT, WE CAN MAKE SURE WE, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING AS IT RELATES TO THE GATES.
WE ARE, I'LL DEFER TO THE DEPARTMENT 'CAUSE WE JUST UPDATED THE ORDINANCE LATE ON FRIDAY AFTER WE GOT YOUR, AFTER WE GOT YOUR UPDATES, GATES WERE NOT INCLUDED.
THE, THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU SAW IN YOUR PACKAGES IS THE LAST WE KNEW ABOUT IT.
GATES EVEN BECAME NEW TO ME TONIGHT.
SO IF YOU'RE GONNA CONSIDER IT AS I SHARED AN EMAIL, TEXT WITH THE CITY MANAGER, THE ORDINANCE WOULD HAVE TO BE, MOTION WOULD'VE TO BE, TO ADD THOSE ADDITIONS.
IF THAT IS TO BE CONSIDERED ESTABLISHING PRIVATE ROADS, ESTABLISHING GATES.
'CAUSE THAT'S NOT IN THE ORDINANCE.
GAZEBO, WE, WE ESTABLISHED THAT AS A GATED COMMUNITY, SO CORRECT.
THE GAZEBO, THE POTENTIAL FOR A COMMON PARKING AREA.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS SOME COMMON OR SOME COMMENT ABOUT THAT THEY HAD THE, UM, UM, LOTS THAT THEY WERE GONNA CORRECT.
SO, SO, SO THERE, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF ISSUES THERE TO, TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH ON THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.
TICKETS GETS APPROVED, DR. MARKS.
SO, SO, SO THEN HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE RECTIFY THAT SITUATION AND MAKING SURE THAT WHAT WE APPROVE IS WHAT WE ARE GETTING.
CERTAINLY, AND I, I'VE, I'VE BEEN, LIKE I SAID, HAVING CONVERSATION WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL ABOUT THAT.
AND AS I MENTIONED, I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE HAD THIS INFORMATION PRIOR TO SO THAT WE COULD HAVE MADE SURE THAT, AGAIN, WHAT WHAT YOU'RE STATING IS WHAT WE'LL ACTUALLY GET.
UM, WORDS MEAN ONE THING AND THEN WHAT'S ON PAPER MEANS A WHOLE DIFFERENT, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT EITHER BY WAY OF, YOU KNOW, HIM DOING IT ON THE FLY, WHICH I DO NOT PREFER, UM, TRYING TO UPDATE THE ORDINANCE FROM THAT ASPECT, UM, IS ONE WAY TO RESOLVE IT.
SO, SO NORMALLY IF YOU'RE STATING IT WOULD BE A GATED COMMUNITY, NUMBER ONE, CORRECT.
YOU WILL BUILD A GAZEBO, I GUESS IS ALSO WHAT YOU STATED.
UM, AND THEN I DON'T, AT LEAST ON THOSE TWO ISSUES WE NORMALLY WILL HAVE NOT, NORMALLY WE WILL HAVE A SITE PLAN ATTACHED TO THIS ORDINANCE.
SO THAT PART IS ENFORCEABLE BECAUSE WE PROVE TONIGHT, APPROVE IT TONIGHT AS IS.
WE DON'T HAVE THE GATED COMMUNITY PORTION OR THE GAZEBO PORTION INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.
SO, SO NOW I'M WONDERING ABOUT OUR ACCESS POINTS AND ALL THAT.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS, IS THAT ALL THAT WE'RE MISSING? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, IS THAT THE ACCESS POINTS, ARE THEY INCLUDED EVERYTHING? YEAH, THE, THE ACCESS POINTS ARE INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE SITE PLAN.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS, IS CORRECT.
AND THEN THE PARKING, I GUESS IS THE ONLY OTHER, THE PARKING QUESTION, AND I'M NOT THE PARKING QUESTION.
I'M SURE THE ANSWER TO THAT ONE IS, AND COUNSEL, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
HOWEVER, APPROVING AS PRESENTED WOULD NOT INCLUDE A LOT OF THOSE THINGS UNLESS WE AMENDED IT,
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UM, BEFORE VOTING.I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD EVEN, I GUESS ANOTHER WAY TO KIND OF SOLVE FOR IT IS TO TABLE THIS PUBLIC HEARING, TO CONTINUE IT TO A DAY CERTAIN, SO THAT WE DON'T CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
NO, WE CAN ACTUALLY, WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING IT'S CLOSED.
WE CAN JUST BRING THE ORDINANCE BACK WITH THOSE CHANGES TO BRING THE ORDINANCE BACK WITH THOSE CHANGES TO ALLOW TO RECEIVE, UM, THE UPDATED SITE PLANS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE ARE, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED TO US IS WHAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE SITE PLAN.
UM, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
HOWEVER, COUNSEL, THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR ALREADY.
COUNSEL WAS, SAY YOU MAYOR, PRO TEMPLE.
WELL, MY QUESTION IS THAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT WE SHOULD WITHDRAW THE MOTION FOR NOW, AND THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
BUT IT'S OBVIOUSLY WE MOVE AT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL.
MAYOR, I MOVE TO, UH, WITHDRAW MY MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
AND I ASK THAT WE MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO ALLOW TIME FOR THE DEVELOPER AND THE BUILDER AND THE CITY TO ALIGN THE ORDINANCE TO WHAT WAS PRESENTED TODAY.
AND HAVE THAT COME BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL AT THE EARLIEST DATE TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING.
TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING, AS I WROTE DOWN GAZEBO, I HAVE IT
UH, UH, G DO YOU HAVE IT? I GOT IT.
UH, GATED COMMUNITY, UM, PRIVATE ROADS, UH, POTENTIAL PRIVATE ROADS, GAZEBO WITH SITE PLAN AS PRESENTED, POTENTIAL COMMON AREA, AND ALSO THE PARK, POTENTIAL PARKING, UM, THAT WAS ALSO PRESENTED AS WELL.
THE COMMON PART WITH HER WITHDRAWING THE MOTION.
THE PERSON WHO ALSO NEEDS THE, WELL, SHE, SHE WAS THE MAIN, SHE WAS THE MAIN.
YOU'RE THE MAIN ONE, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT.
I MEAN, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
THE NEXT MEETING I THINK IS THE FIFTH.
WHAT DID SHE SAY THAT'S ACCEPTABLE? THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE FIFTH COOK AS FAR AS BEING THE NEXT MEETING.
AND, AND JUST SO FOR THE PUBLIC'S UNDERSTANDING, WE'VE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PUBLIC HEARING'S BEEN CLOSED, SO THE ORDINANCE WILL COME BACK ON A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM, BUT THE PUBLIC IS ALWAYS FREE TO COME AND SPEAK AS IT RELATES TO THAT AGENDA ITEM.
IT JUST WON'T BE ADVERTISED AS A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IT'LL BE BACK AS A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM TO, UM, DISCUSS AND, UH, APPROVE THE ADOPTING ORDINANCE ON SEPTEMBER 5TH.
WOULD IT REQUIRE, WOULD REQUIRE SUPER MAJORITY? IT, IT STILL REQUIRES A SUPER MAJORITY.
SIX COUNCIL MEMBERS MUST APPROVE IT SINCE IT WAS THE, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR A SUPER MAJORITY OF ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT.
OF ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, CORRECT.
OF ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT, I WAS ASSUMING EVERYBODY WOULD BE THERE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUGHES.
COUNCIL, UM, ALL IN FAVOR? LET'S WE USE OUR VOTING PADS.
WHAT IS THIS FOR THE TABLE TO, TO TABLE IT.
TWO TO DATE, SIR? SEPTEMBER THE DATE, SIR.
THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
UH, AT THIS TIME, MS. THOMAS, WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
[1. Consider authorizing the City Manager to negotiate and execute sanitation services contract with Republic Services for garbage, recycling, brush, and bulk collection for an initial term of 5 years beginning June 1, 2024, with two additional 1-year renewal options]
OUR REGULAR AGENDA.WE HAVE CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE SANITATION SERVICES CONTRACT WITH REPUBLIC SERVICES FOR GARBAGE RECYCLING BRUSH AND BULK COLLECTION FOR AN INITIAL TERM OF FIVE YEARS, BEGINNING JUNE 1ST, 2024, WITH TWO ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS.
MAKING THAT PRESENTATION IS CAMERON DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
IF WE, EXCUSE ME, UM, IF WE COULD ASK FOR SILENCE, PLEASE AS YOU LEAVE THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AS WE ARE STILL IN A MEETING.
SO, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, TONIGHT I WANNA BRING TO YOU THE, UH, DRAFT SANITATION CONTRACT FOR, UH, SANITATION SERVICES, PUBLIC SERVICES.
UH, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
WE DID DO AN RFP FOR THIS, UH, SERVICE BACK IN JANUARY.
UH, WE DID RECEIVE, RECEIVE THREE, UH, PROPOSALS, UH, AND, AND, AND WE CAME BACK AND BROUGHT THOSE BACK TO YOU.
THOSE VARIOUS SERVICE LEVELS, VARIOUS DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS.
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AND SO AS WE KIND OF TALKED THROUGH THAT AT THE, AT THE, UH, APRIL 4TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UH, THE CONSENSUS WAS THAT, UH, COUNCIL WANTED TO CONTINUE THE, THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHICH IS TWICE WEEKLY, GARBAGE COLLECTION, WEEKLY RECYCLING, WEEKLY BRUSH, AND BULK WITH, UH, NO LIMITATION.AND SO BASED ON THAT, WE, WE REQUESTED BEST AND FINAL PRICING FROM, UH, FROM THE, UH, THREE PROPOSING FIRMS, UH, UH, WITH TWO CAVEATS, ONE WITH A JUNE 20, JUNE 1ST, 2023 START DATE, AND THEN A JUNE 1ST, 2024 START DATE.
AND WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR THERE WAS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT GOING OUT INTO JUNE, 2024, UH, PROVIDED ANY TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, ADVANTAGE FOR US FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE.
AND SO, UH, WE GOT THAT INFORMATION BACK AND BROUGHT BACK, BROUGHT IT BACK TO COUNCIL ON APRIL 17TH.
UH, AND SO WHAT WE FOUND WAS THE JUNE 21, UH, START DATE REPRESENTED AN INCREASE OF ABOUT, FROM BETWEEN EIGHT AND 15%.
UH, AND THEN THE JUNE 1ST, 2024, UH, START DATE REPRESENTED AN INCREASE LOWER OF ABOUT FIVE TO 12%.
BUT WE, WHAT WE ALSO FOUND WAS THAT, UH, ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, THERE WERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT VARIATIONS.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE RECOMMENDED, AT THAT POINT, WE RECOMMENDED TWO THINGS TO COUNCIL.
ONE THAT WE EXERCISED THE FINAL REMAINING, UH, ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTION THAT WE HAD WITH REPUBLIC, UH, TO BEGIN JUNE 1ST, 2023, WHICH WE DID DO THAT.
AND THEN WE ALSO REQUESTED THAT, UH, COUNCIL IDENTIFIED TWO MEMBERS TO HELP, UM, PARTICIPATE WITH THE, UH, PROPOSAL REVIEW COMMITTEE ON AN AD HOC BASIS TO KIND OF FURTHER EVALUATE THOSE PROPOSALS AS WELL AS, UH, HELP US COMPARE THE IMPACT OF BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL RATES.
AND SO WE DID THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MARKS AND CHISHOLM DID, UH, PARTICIPATE WITH US IN THOSE, UH, DISCUSSIONS.
AND SO BASED ON WHAT WE, UH, REVIEWED, YOU KNOW, UH, WE, WE FOUND THAT REPUBLIC TO BE THE BEST VALUE.
UH, AND, AND THEY ALSO PROVIDED COMPETITIVE PRICING.
AND THEY ALLOWED US TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE USED TO, UH, AS WELL AS BEING ABLE TO, AGAIN, BE, BE COMPETITIVE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO POINT OUT WAS THAT WHEN OUR, WHEN WE DID OUR CUSTOMER SAT, UH, SATISFACTION SURVEY, UH, CITIZEN SURVEY, I'M SORRY, UH, WE RECEIVED HIGH MARKS FOR OUR SANITATION SERVICES.
SO THOSE WERE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT KIND OF LED US TO THAT DECISION THAT REPUBLIC PROVIDED THE BEST VALUE.
AND ALSO IN LOOKING AT, UH, THE, COMPARING THE, THE, UH, PROPOSALS, WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING FROM THE OTHER PROPOSALS THAT MOVED THE NEEDLE TO SAY, WE WANNA MOVE AWAY FROM THE INCUMBENT AND GO TOWARDS, UH, UH, SOME SOMEBODY NEW.
SO WE WANT, WE FELT REPUBLIC PROVIDED WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, UH, AND IT, AND THE, AND THE RATES WERE ALL COMPETITIVE.
UH, AND SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FROM A FINANCIAL IMPACT? UH, IF WE, UH, ENTER INTO A NEW CONTRACT WITH REPUBLIC, OUR, OUR RATE INCREASES THE RATE THAT WE PAY REPUBLIC FOR RESIDENTIAL COLLECTION.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE RATE THAT WE PAY REPUBLIC.
IT INCREASES FROM 17062 CENTS PER RESIDENT PER MONTH TO, UH, $19 AND 65 CENTS.
AND THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE, THE RATE THAT WE CHARGE OUT THE SOLAR RE RESIDENTS WILL ALSO INCREASE.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ALREADY DURING OUR BUDGETING PROCESS WHEN WE HAD COUNCIL HAD THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, UH, AND WE BROUGHT IN OUR CONSULTANT AND ALL THAT, DID THE, DID THE, UH, RATE STUDY.
BUT WE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW CHARGE A RATE OF $26 AND 52 CENTS TO OUR, UH, RESIDENCE FOR SANITATION, RECYCLING, BULK, AND BRUSH.
UH, THAT RATE WILL INCREASE TO $29 AND 97 CENTS.
NOW, THERE'S, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE THAT, UH, THE REASON WHY THAT RATE THAT WE CHARGE OUR RESIDENTS IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE PAY REPUBLIC IS BECAUSE THE RATE THAT WE CHARGE OUR RESIDENTS NOT ONLY INCLUDES THIS, UH, GARBAGE COLLECTION COSTS, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES DISPOSAL COSTS, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT, UH, CONTRACT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT, AS WELL AS THE OPERATIONAL COSTS IN TERMS OF CITY PERSONNEL, UH, EQUIPMENT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE ROLLED INTO THAT, UH, THE RATE THAT WE CHARGE OUR RESIDENTS.
UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICES VERSUS WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, UH, IF WE INTERACT, ENACT THIS NEW CONTRACT ON JUNE 1ST, 2024, UH, OF COURSE, CURRENT LEVEL SERVICES TWICE A WEEK, UH, THAT'S HAND COLLECTED, YOU KNOW, OR CUSTOMERS, CUSTOMERS MAY HAVE THEIR OWN CARS.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO, I'M SORRY, PROPOSING TO GO TO, UH, IS CONTINUE TWICE A WEEK SERVICE, BUT WE WANT TO USE NINE FIVE GALLON CARTS PROVIDED BY REPUBLIC.
UH, WE'RE GONNA MAINTAIN A ONCE A WEEK RECYCLING, WHEREAS WE CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW, CUSTOMERS MAY USE 18 GALLON BEING, OR
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NINE FIVE GALLON CART THAT THEY RENT FROM THE CITY.WE'RE GONNA MAINTAIN ONCE A WEEK RECYCLING.
BUT WE WANT TO GO TO, AGAIN, NINE FIVE GALLON CART PROVIDED BY REPUBLIC.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UH, UNLIMITED BULK BRUSH, UH, AND AGAIN, UNLIMITED BULK BRUSH.
NOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS RAISED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD, UH, WAS WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD LOOK AT SOME SORT OF ON DEMAND SERVICE FOR, UH, BULK AND BRUSH.
AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH REPUBLIC.
AND SO, UH, WHAT YOU SEE THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ON, UH, THE PROPOSED SERVICE LEVEL SIDE AS COMPARED TO THE CON, UH, CURRENT SERVICE LEVEL SIDE IS THAT FOR ON, FOR, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING BULK AND BRUSH, UH, BUNDLE ONCE A WEEK THAT YOU CAN PLACE OUT WITH YOUR GARBAGE, RIGHT? UH, THREE CUBIC YARD LIMIT.
BUT THEN ONCE A MONTH YOU HAVE, YOU'LL HAVE THE OPTION FOR AN ON DEMAND SET OUT OF UP TO 10 CUBIC YARDS OF BULK, BULK BRUSH.
UH, AND WITH THAT CHOICE, WHAT WE'LL DO IS THE RESIDENTS CAN REQUEST CALL REPUBLIC AND MAKE A REQUEST AND SAY, HEY, I HAVE SOME BRUSH OR SOME BULK THAT I'M GONNA PLACE OUT AND I NEED TO BE PICKED UP.
AND THEN REPUBLIC WILL IDENTIFY A DATE WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS, AND THEY'LL TELL YOU WHAT THAT DATE IS, AND THEY'LL COME AND PICK IT UP.
AND SO THAT IS WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO WORK OUT.
AND THEY ALREADY HAVE THIS SERVICE WITH SUGARLAND, TEXAS, AND SO THEY, YOU KNOW, WE WON'T, WE WON'T BE THE FIRST CITY THAT THEY'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, UTILIZING THAT SERVICE WITH.
AND SO THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT IN THE CONTRACT THAT WE ARE, UH, WORKING ON, WE ALSO HAVE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT, UH, WE CAN, IF WE DECIDE TO, TO GO BACK TO UNLIMITED AWAY FROM THE ON DEMAND, WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY TO DO THAT WITHIN THAT CONTRACT WITH NO ADDITIONAL COSTS.
AND SO, I KNOW WE HAD TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT CARTS, AND THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT CARTS AND WHY YOU USE CARTS.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE ADVANTAGES OF, OF USING CARTS.
AGAIN, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE, A CLEAN CITY, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BAGS SET OUT, SOME PEOPLE USE CARTS, THEIR OWN PERSONAL CARTS.
BUT IF YOU HAVE BAGS SET OUT, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY FOR ANIMALS TO GET IN THE BAGS, SPREAD THE DEBRIS, THE BIRDS AND RACCOONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UH, AND SO THEN YOU HAVE THE SAFETY RISK FROM THE, UH, SANITATION WORKERS' PERSPECTIVE.
YOU KNOW, HAVING TO GRAB THE BAGS, PICK UP THE BAGS, SHARP OBJECTS OF THINGS CAN BE IN THE BAG, UH, THAT IMPACT THEIR SAFETY.
AND THEN FROM A EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT, IF YOU JUST CAN IMAGINE RIGHT NOW AS THE TRUCKS DRIVE DOWN THE STREET, THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY GO FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE ONE, ONE BAG OUT, FIVE BAGS OUT A TRASH, A, A, A CART.
IF EVERYBODY HAS CARTS OUT, THEY KIND OF KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT IN TERMS OF HOW, HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE THEM TO CLEAR THE CITY.
AND THEN IT HELPS THEM TO BE MORE EFFICIENT ON THE ROUTES AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE LARGER, UH, RECYCLING CARTS WILL HOPEFULLY ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO RECYCLE MORE.
UH, THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THREE CUBIC YARDS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
YOU SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, THREE STOVES WOULD BE THREE BE CONSIDERED, THREE CUBIC YARDS.
AND THEN YOU SEE THIS ON THE RIGHT, THIS PILE OF DEBRIS, A PILE OF BULK TRASH.
I'M SORRY, SHOULD I SAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THREE FEET BY THREE FEET BY, YOU KNOW, BY NINE, YOU KNOW, BY NINE FEET, THAT'S THREE CUBIC YARDS.
SO YOU SEE THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF MATERIAL OUT THERE THAT, THAT CAN BE PLACED OUT WITH YOUR REGULAR GARBAGE AND CAN BE PICKED UP AND PLACED IN THE BACK OF THE, UH, GARBAGE TRUCK AS THEY COME DOWN THE STREET.
AND THEN THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF 10 CUBIC YARDS, WHICH WILL BE SET OUT ON A MONTHLY BASIS, RIGHT? AND YOU SEE AT THE TOP RIGHT UP HERE, THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF DEBRIS.
SOME CHAIRS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE LOOK LIKE A, A SOFA LOVESEAT TABLE.
UH, UH, THAT'S 10 CIC YARDS OF BULK WASTE.
BELOW THAT IS A REPRESENTATION OF 10 CUBIC YARDS OF BRUSH, WHICH IS QUITE A BIT OF BRUSH.
UH, NOW OVER HERE AT THE TOP, JUST FOR COMPARISON, THIS IS 15 U CUBIC YARDS OF BRUSH.
AND THIS IS THAT SAME PHOTO SHOWING THEM HAVING PICKED UP 10 CUBIC JARS, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UH, AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, THE THREE CUBIC YARDS OF BRUSH THAT WILL BE PICKED UP WITH, WITH YOUR GARBAGE ON YOUR NORMAL GARBAGE DAY.
WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUNDLE BRUSH.
UH, AND THE REASON WE, THE REASON THAT WE, THEY WANT IT TO BE BUNDLED IS BECAUSE IT'S EASIER FOR THE PERSON ON THE BACK OF THE TRUCK JUST TO GRAB A BUNDLE AND TOSS IT IN THE BACK AS OPPOSED TO A BUNCH OF BRANCHES AND LEAVES SPREAD EVERYWHERE.
JUST, IT'S JUST EASIER AND MORE PRECISE.
UH, BUT THIS IS WHAT BUNDLE BRUSH WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL, THE AFTER HERE TONIGHT, WHAT WE WANT AFTER TONIGHT, IF COUNCIL DOES APPROVE, UH, AUTHORIZE THE
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CITY MANAGER TO KNOW, NEGOTIATE, AND EXECUTE THE CONTRACT WITH REPUBLIC, WE'LL WHAT WE'LL DO JUST THAT, WE'LL FINALIZE THAT CONTRACT, AND THEN WE'LL DEVELOP A ROLLOUT PLAN IN TERMS OF, UH, HOW WE WANNA ROLL OUT THAT SERVICE TO OUR CUSTOMERS, YOU KNOW, UH, HOW WE WANT TO EDUCATE OUR CUSTOMERS ON THE NEW, NEW, UH, THE NEW SERVICE LEVELS, PARTICULARLY THE BULK AND BRUSH AND THE, UH, CARTS.UH, AND THEN, UH, WE'LL IMPLEMENT THE NEW SERVICE LEVELS BEGINNING JUNE 1ST, 2024, AND WE'LL BE LOOKING AT A FIVE YEAR TERM INITIAL TERM, AND THEN TWO ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR RENEWAL PERIODS.
COUNSEL, I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
AND I ALSO HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM REPUBLIC HERE WITH US TONIGHT IF, IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, MR. CAMERON, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR, UH, FOR BEING HERE WITH US TONIGHT.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE CARD FROM A CITIZEN WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
MS. WILLIAMS, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, CITY OF RESIDENCE FOR THE RECORD, AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
ANNA WILLIAMS, DESOTA, TEXAS, 35 YEARS, DECEMBER WILL BE 36 YEARS.
UH, WE HAVE BEEN RE UH, RECYCLING IN DESOTA FOR 35 YEARS SINCE WE'VE LIVED IN OUR HOME.
UM, THE, THE YOUNG MEN WHO GET ON THE TRUCK, THEY DO AMAZING JOB OF CLEANING UP, UH, REPUBLIC, THEY'RE SO RESPECTFUL AND WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND I'M HOPING THAT, WELL, IN FIVE YEARS I'LL BE 82 YEARS, HOPEFULLY 82 OR WHATEVER.
BUT I JUST KNOW THAT THIS IS AN AMAZING COMPANY.
AND, UM, IT SCARES ME THAT SOME OTHER COMPANY WILL COME IN WITH THE LONG ARMS AND, UH, WHERE THEY TRASH UP THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I KNOW MY FRIEND LIVES IN DALLAS AND SHE'S ALWAYS TAKING PICTURES AND CALLING THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT, UH, THAT REPUBLIC.
AND IF YOU SEE TRASH OUT, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, I REALLY, IF I'M AROUND, I HOPE IT'S STILL REPUBLIC, NOT JUST TO ADD AN EXTRA YEAR.
IF YOU WANT CHEAP, YOU GET CHEAP.
I LOOK AT DALLAS WHEN I'M GOING UP POLK STREET AND I SEE THAT'S CHEAP.
THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND, UH, IT'S TRASH STRAIGHT UP, UH, POLK STREET.
AND, UM, I LIVED OVER IN THE AREA, THE CARD AREA, BUT IT WAS ON REYNOLDS.
WE HAD TO FIGHT ALL THE TIME WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS.
SO I DON'T HAVE TO, I, I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO FIGHT WITH DESOTA.
UH, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST KEEP REPUBLIC THE WAY IT IS, AND THEY HAVE GREAT PEOPLE, VERY RESPECTFUL.
THANK YOU, MS. WILLIAMS. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT AT THIS TIME.
UM, COLLECTING MY THOUGHTS HERE.
UH, UH, THANK YOU MR. CAMERON FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I ACTUALLY WANTED TO GIVE YOU KUDOS.
I WAS PRETTY IMPRESSED HOW YOU'VE WALKED THIS.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, THIS COUNCIL DON'T LIKE TO BE RUSHED.
AND YOU WERE, YOU WERE GREAT AT NOT ONLY PRESENTING, SETTING UP AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, AD HOC COMMITTEE MEETING YOU PRESENTING ON WHAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE TALKED ABOUT, AND THEN NOW WE'RE HERE.
UM, WE'VE ALSO ALLOTTED OPPORTUNITIES, SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS TO SPEAK ALSO ON THIS TOPIC.
MY, MY ONLY, UM, UH, UH, CONCERN IS THAT, UM, BEFORE THE CHANGE GOES IN, COULD THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WHETHER VIRTUAL OR IN PERSON, BE ALLOTTED THE STAFF TIME TO DO SO, SO THAT WE CAN HELP, UH, PRESS THIS MESSAGE OUT BECAUSE IT'S STILL AN INCREASE.
AND, UM, WHILE I APPRECIATE THE CADILLAC PLAN, I THINK THAT OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES THAT CADILLAC PLAN.
WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATIVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE ABOUT MOVING FORWARD AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
BUT I'M EXCITED TO HAVE REPUBLIC CONTINUE ON WITH US AS WELL.
'CAUSE THEY DO GREAT SERVICE AS WELL.
AND I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE I, I'VE BEEN IN, IN CONVERSATION WITH, UH, LEE FERGUSON WITH REPUBLIC.
SHE AND I KIND OF WARREN'S WORKING ON THIS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SHE'S ALL EXTENDED, YOU KNOW, HER WILLINGNESS ON REPUBLIC SIDE TO ALSO PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS AS WELL TO TALK ABOUT THE SERVICES.
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COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE CALL FOR A VOTE? A MOTION? YES.THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION.
SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT, UM, WHEN MY TRASH CAN IS LEFT, YOU KNOW, IN MY AREA VERSUS IN THE ALLEYWAY.
UM, YOU HAD ME IN THE PRESENTATION.
I MEAN, I WAS GOOD WITH THE PRESENTATION UNTIL, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, BUNDLE THE BRUSH.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION AROUND BUNDLING BRUSH, THAT'S GONNA BE A HUGE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT, BUT ARE WE CONSIDERING OLDER AMERICANS WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BUNDLE THEIR BRUSH? AND LIKE, LITERALLY I'M THINKING ABOUT MY MOTHER WHO, WHO HAS A RIDING LAWNMOWER AND CUTS HER OWN GRASS AND SHE'LL GO SHAVE THINGS OFF AND DRAG THINGS AND SHE SHOULD NOT, SHE SHOULD BE IN THERAPY, BUT SHE DOES, BUT SHE'S NOT BUNDLING HER BRUSH.
UM, IS THERE ANY THOUGHT AROUND THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR CITIES WHO, WHO, WHO DO THE BUNDLED BRUSH, I GUESS MAYBE THIS TO REPUBLIC, DO THEY OFFER ANY OTHER TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, SENIOR SERVICES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO HELP WITH BUNDLING THE BRUSH? ARE WE GONNA GET CHARGED MORE FOR NOT BUNDLING THE BRUSH? IT WAS JUST A BUNDLING THE BRUSH FOR ME.
MS. FERGUSON, IF YOU CAN COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
SO PEOPLE, UM, WILL NOT BE CHARGED EXTRA IF THEY DON'T BUNDLE.
AND SO WE HAVE A NUMBER, ACTUALLY, WE HAVE A TON OF CITIES THAT DO REQUIRE THE BUNDLING.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT IS, UM, FOLKS WILL, AND I TALKED TO 'EM ON THE PHONE, SO FOLKS WILL SAY, OKAY, OKAY, WELL I'LL GET SOMEBODY TO DO THAT FOR ME.
UM, OR WE CAN ALWAYS DO THE UNBUNDLED BRUSH OPTION ONCE A MONTH, YOU KNOW, WHERE PEOPLE CAN, YOU KNOW, DO THEIR TREES FOR THEM AND THEN PUT IT OUT, MAKE THE CALL, BAM, WE'RE GONNA COME.
UM, AND SO LIKE EISEN SAID, MR. CAMERON SAID, UH, THAT THE BUNDLING DOES HELP BECAUSE IF YOU GUYS CAN IMAGINE THE GUYS ON THE BACK OF TRUCK PICKING UP, YOU KNOW, THE STICKS ONE AT A TIME, WE MIGHT NOT FINISH THOSE ROUTES.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.
THE OTHER ASPECT OF THIS IS THAT WE DO HAVE A, A HANDICAP, UH, WHAT WE CALL BACKDOOR SERVICE.
AND SO WORKING WITH THE CITY, UM, STAFF ON THAT, WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.
SO ELDERLY, DISABLED, THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE WE'LL GO GRAB THEIR CARTS AND SERVICE LIKE FROM, FROM THE GARAGE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO GRAB IT THERE OUTSIDE THE GARAGE.
SORRY, WE DON'T GO INTO PEOPLE'S PROPERTY, I APOLOGIZE.
UM, BUT IF THEY KEEP THEIR CARTS BY THE GARAGE, WE'LL GO GRAB IT, SERVICE IT, BRING IT BACK.
AND SO, UM, THE BUNDLING BRUSH THING, WE DON'T, WE DON'T BUNDLE BRUSH FOR PEOPLE.
UM, BUT WE CAN THINK MORE OF SOME OTHER WAYS TO HANDLE IT.
I GUESS, I GUESS MAYBE MY DIRECT QUESTION IS IF SOMEONE DOES NOT BUNDLE THEIR BRUSH MM-HMM,
THERE WOULD NOT BE AN EXTRA FEE.
AND ACTUALLY I'VE GOT MY OPERATIONS TEAM, MARO FLORES, AND RUBEN, UM, AND THEY CAN SPEAK TO THAT, BUT THERE WOULD NOT BE AN EXTRA CHARGE.
AND LET ME ADD TOO, SO I THINK THE BUNDLE IS ONLY ON THE WEEKLY, RIGHT? IT'S ON WEEKLY, YEAH.
SO ON THE, AT THAT MONTHLY OPTION DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BUNDLE, IT CAN BE JUST SET UP.
SO THERE IS STILL AN OPTION FOR THAT.
AND THEN, UM, DO WE HAVE A, I KNOW WE SAID, WELL, WELL, THE CONTRACT SAYS WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR EDUCATION.
SO ARE WE CURRENTLY, AND THIS IS THE STAFF THINKING, ARE WE CURRENTLY WORKING ON SOME TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT PLAN AND LIKE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT DOES DEPLOYMENT LOOK LIKE IF WE'RE ALL GETTING THESE, YOU KNOW, NEW TRASH CANS? NO, THAT, THAT WILL, THAT WILL BE
THEY'LL BE HELPING US WITH ALL OF THAT.
SO WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T STARTED THAT PROCESS YET.
WE KNOW WE ARE WAITING ON APPROVAL, BUT THAT'LL BE THE VERY NEXT.
AND THEN THE LAST THING RELATED TO DEPLOYMENT OF THE TRASH CANS.
UM, SO WILL THE INSTRUCTIONS ON, YOU KNOW, BUNDLING YOUR BRUSH AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS BE ON THAT TRASH CAN SO WE CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, SO IT ALL MAKES SENSE THAT YOU'RE GETTING A NEW TRASH CAN WITH SERVICE.
WE, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS, UM, THERE'S SOME OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE GREAT EXAMPLES OF BOOKLETS AND PAMPHLETS THAT THEY'VE PUT TOGETHER.
AND BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES THAT WILL BE HAPPENING IN DESOTO, WE WANNA PUT TOGETHER A PAMPHLET AND, UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CREATING A POSTCARD WITH A QR CODE, AND THEN PEOPLE CAN, UM, CLICK ON THAT AND IT'LL TAKE 'EM TO THAT PAMPHLET.
UM, WE'LL WE TALKED ABOUT DELIVERING THE PAMPHLETS WHEN WE DELIVER THE CARTS, AND SO EVERY RESIDENT WILL GET ONE.
'CAUSE I KNOW SOME PEOPLE SAY THEY DON'T CHECK THEIR MAIL AND YOU KNOW, IT GOT LOST IN THE MAIL, THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT IF WE DELIVER IT WITH THE CARDS, THEN WE KNOW THAT EVERYBODY HAS GOTTEN ONE.
I APPRECIATE KNOWING ABOUT THAT, THAT, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN PUT STICKERS ON THE CARTS WITH THE QR CODES AS WELL, SO THEY CAN ALWAYS HAVE THAT INFORMATION? THAT'S ONLY TOPIC.
I APPRECIATE YOU THAT NOT A BAD IDEA.
COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER, THAT WAS INNOVATIVE THAT YOU JUST THOUGHT OF THAT, UH, QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE BUNDLING THE BRUSH.
NOW, NOT, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE BUNDLING THE BRUSH, BUT WHEN YOU SAID ABOUT THE TRASH, YOU GET THE TRASH AND THE BRUSH IN THE SAME SPOT, LIKE IT'S ALL GONNA BE IN THE BACK.
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THE WEEKLY OR THE ON DEMAND BRUSH IS IN THE FRONT, OR IS IT ALL GONNA BE, EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE IN THE BACK OR WHEREVER YOUR TRASH IS COLLECTED? WELL, IT, IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOUR TRASH IS COLLECTED NOW, BUT SO REMEMBER THE, SO THE, THE ON DEMAND IS, IS THE, THE LARGER RIGHT.YOU KNOW, CAPACITIES OF, OF, OF BRUSH.
SO THINK ABOUT THE, THAT'LL BE PICKED UP WITH THE BOOM TRUCK THAT CAN'T GET IN, GO DOWN THE ALLEYWAY.
SO THAT HAS TO BE SET OUT FRONT.
THE SMALLER PILES, THE HAND PILES CAN, THAT CAN BE PICKED UP WITH YOUR TRASH, WITH YOUR CART.
THAT CAN GO IN THE ALLEY WITH YOUR CART NEXT TO YOUR CART.
SO THE THREE CUBIC FEET CAN GO WITH YOUR TRASH.
OR, OR, OR IN THE FRONT IF THERE'S NOT ROOM IS WHAT I WAS JUST TOLD, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL WORK THROUGH ALL THAT.
MY QUESTIONS ARE REALLY QUICK.
UH, MR. CAMERON, YOU, YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING THAT THE TRUCKS THAT WITH, WITH THE, WITH THE, YOU CALL 'EM THE BOOM TRUCK.
THEY, THEY CANNOT GO DOWN ALLEYS.
SO WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR HO OUR HOMES WITH ALLEYS? THEY, THEY WOULD JUST SIT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR LARGE ITEMS OUT FRONT.
WHAT ABOUT REGULAR TRASH? SO, SO, SO WHEN THERE'S A, I WANNA MAKE A DISTINCTION.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, BULK AND BRUSH TRUCK, NOT THE OKAY, BUT THE REGULAR TRASH, NOT THE REGULAR GARBAGE TRUCK.
SO WHEN WE GO, EVEN WHEN WE GO TO THE AUTOMATED ARM PICKING UP THE TRASH, THAT CAN STILL GO DOWN THE ALLEY.
THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, WHAT MADE ME DEAL.
NOW ONE, ONE, THIS IS EDUCATIONAL IN, IN ONE SECOND, EDUCATION.
SO IF I HAVE A RECYCLING BIN AND A TRASH BIN, RIGHT, HOW DO YOU CURRENTLY, IF I PUT TRASH IN MY RECYCLING BIN, MY TRASH GUY KNOW IT.
I DON'T DO THAT FOR THE RECORD
BUT, BUT WHEN WE START DOING THAT ON RECYCLING DAYS AND IT'S AUTOMATED, WHAT IS YOUR PROCEDURE THAT WE'RE NOT PICKING UP JUST EXTRA TRASH, YOU KNOW, ON, ON DAYS LIKE THAT? AND, AND WHAT SHOULD BE RECYCLED? IS THERE SOMETHING OR IS THAT A PROBLEM THAT YOU JUST GENUINE GEN GENUINELY HAVE? YES, YES.
SO TYPICALLY, UH, CITIES HAVE AROUND AND, AND I HAVE NOT, UM, LOOKED AT THIS DATA, SO I'M GOING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
TYPICALLY, CITIES HAVE AROUND 25% CONTAMINATION IN RECYCLING.
AND SO WE KNOW THAT'S JUST A PART OF IT.
AND SO, UH, THE GOOD THING WITH Y'ALLS SCHEDULE HERE IN DESOTO IS THAT TRASH AND RECYCLING ARE NOT ON THE SAME DAYS.
AND SO WE'LL BE COMING AROUND ON WEDNESDAYS JUST DOING RECYCLING.
AND SO SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL HAVE STUFF THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT RECYCLING, LIKE BRANCHES AND, UM, METAL STUFF, YOU KNOW, STICKING OUT OF THEIR RECYCLE CART.
OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THAT HEY, THAT'S CONTAMINATED.
AND SO WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THAT IS, UH, SNAP A PICTURE AND THEN REPORT THE ADDRESS TO THE CITY, AND THEN THE CITY WOULD WORK WITH THAT RESIDENT AND WE WOULD GO GET THE UNCONTAMINATED RECYCLING THE NEXT DAY, BASICALLY.
UM, AND SO, SO THE OTHER ELEMENT OF THIS, I'M SORRY FOR MAKING THIS LONG, UM, IS THAT THE HELPER IS ON THE BACK.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T RUMMAGE THROUGH PEOPLE'S STUFF, BUT, UM, IF, IF WE FIND SOMEBODY THAT IS A, A CONSTANT VIOLATOR OR SOMETHING, WE MAY JUST BE LIKE, OH, OKAY.
YOU KNOW, AND, AND, BUT THAT'S NOT COMMON PRACTICE.
DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, MA'AM.
YOU MADE MY 32ND QUESTION, SO THANK YOU.
AT THIS TIME, IS THERE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR? MADAM MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
SECOND, UH, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY DR.
MARK SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BIRD TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
UM, COUNCIL, PLEASE USE YOUR VOTING PAD.
THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
[2. Consider a Resolution accepting the 2023 Tax Year Appraisal Roll submitted by the Dallas Central Appraisal District]
NEXT WE HAVE CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE 2023 TAX YEAR APPRAISAL ROLES SUBMITTED BY THE DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT.MAKING THAT PRESENTATION IS SHALANDA OLIVER.
BUDGET AND GRANT ADMINISTRATOR.
UM, I AM HERE TODAY FOR COUNSEL TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE 2023 TAX YEAR
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APPRAISAL ROLE SUBMITTED BY THE DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT.THE DALLAS, UH, CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAS SUBMITTED THE APPRAISAL TAX ROLE FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO FOR THE TAX YEAR 2023.
THIS APPRAISAL ROLE IS USED FOR THE CALCULATION OF THE PROJECT PROJECTED TAX CALCULATION FOR THE CITY, AND SHOULD BE FORMALLY ACCEPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
UH, THE CERTIFIED ESTIMATED TAXABLE VALUE PROVIDED BY DE AD IS SEVEN MILLION THREE HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE MILLION ONE HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED SIXTY ONE DOLLARS, WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE AN AMOUNT OF 222,930,491, UH, DOLLARS.
THAT IS UNDER PROTEST AS CLAIMED BY PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND, UH, ESTIMATED BY DA, THE CERTIFIED TAX VALUE IS APPRAISED VALUE OF PROPERTY MINUS EXEMPTION SUCH AS THE 65.
THE TAX TAXABLE VALUE UTILIZED TO BUILD A, UM, UH, BUDGET FOR THE 20 23 24 BUDGET YEAR WAS $7 BILLION, UH, WHICH WE MULTIPLY BY THE TAX RATE EQUAL THE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAXES THE CITY PROJECT TO COLLECT DURING THE FISCAL YEAR 2324.
THIS RESOLUTION ACCEPTING, ACCEPTING THE RELISH RESOLUTION OF THE CERTIFIED APPRAISER TAX ROLE MEETS THE REQUIREMENT OF THE TAX CODE AND IT HAS NO, UM, FINANCIAL IMPACT.
THEREFORE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE 2023 YEAR TAX APPRAISAL ROLE SUBMITTED BY THE DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MS. OLIVER.
COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, HEARING NONE.
SO IN LIGHT OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD LAST NIGHT, CAN WE PUT THESE TWO THINGS TOGETHER IN LIGHT OF THE DISCUSSION, THE, THE WORK SESSION WE HAD YESTERDAY, UM, RELATED TO YEAH, THE TAX ROLLS AND WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO.
CAN YOU PUT THESE TWO CONVERSATIONS TOGETHER? UH, LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
CAN I, SO CAN WE EXPLAIN HOW THIS DECISION TONIGHT, HOW, HOW DO THESE TWO THINGS CONNECT PLAYS A ROLE? YES.
SO ALL OF THE REVENUES, SO ESSENTIALLY THIS IS JUST SAYING, UH, DALLAS COUNTY, YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT, RIGHT? YOU'VE GIVEN US A VALUATION OF PROPERTIES.
WE'RE CERTIFYING THAT AS THE CORRECT NUMBER, RIGHT? THAT ESSENTIALLY WE'RE USING IN ALL THE CALCULATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
SO THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TAX RATE TONIGHT, RIGHT? WHICH IS WHAT THAT CONVERSATION WAS.
BUT THIS IS ABOUT THE BASE NUMBER THAT THAT TAX RATE IS MULTIPLIED BY UHHUH.
SO BECAUSE THIS NUMBER GOES UP, OUR TAX RATE IS FORCED TO GO DOWN BY WAY OF SB TWO.
SO THE, THE, AND, AND IN THIS YEAR AND FUTURE YEARS, THE HIGHER THIS NUMBER GOES, THE LOWER YOUR TAX RATE GOES, UM, IN ORDER TO CALCULATE A 3.5%.
SO THIS IS JUST THE, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US.
THAT NUMBER IS FOR THE YEAR BASED ON THE VALUATIONS OF ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES, UM, FOR THAT.
SO, UH, IT'S JUST CERTIFYING THAT THAT NUMBER IS NOW CORRECT.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT CORRELATION OF COURSE, TOGETHER.
'CAUSE THOSE TWO ARE CONNECTED.
COUNCIL, IS THERE A MOTION MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT AS PRESENTED.
IS THERE A SECOND? UH, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BUR SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM HUGHES TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED COUNSEL, PLEASE USE YOUR VOTING PAD.
UM, THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
UH, MS. THOMAS, WE HAVE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
[3. Take a record vote on the proposed tax rate of $0.685092 (68.5092 cents per $100 of valuation) for FY 2023-2024 and set the date for the Public Hearing on the Budget to be held on September 5, 2023 and set the date for the Public Hearing on the Tax Rate to be held on September 19, 2023]
NEXT WE HAVE TAKE A RECORD VOTE ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 0.69 CENTS PER $100 VALUATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 23, 20 24.AND SET THE DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET TO BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2023.
AND SET THE DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE TO BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2023.
COMING BACK WE HAVE SHALANDA OLIVER, BUDGETING, GRANT ADMINISTRATOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M HERE TODAY FOR THE CITY, UH, COUNCIL TO TAKE A RECORD VOTE FOR THE PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 0.6 8 5 0 9 2.
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UH, THE CITY CHARTER REQUIRE, REQUIRES, I THINK, I THINK YOU MISSED THE FIVE IN THERE.THIS ONE IS AN IMPORTANT NUMBER.
UH, THE CITY CHARTER REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND TO ADOPT A BUDGET BY A FAVORABLE MAJORITY OF THE, OF ALL COUNCIL, OF ALL MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE CITY IS SCHEDULED TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET ON SEPTEMBER THE FIFTH, 2023, AND ADOPT THE BUDGET DURING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2023.
STATE LAW ALSO REQUIRES THE CITY COUNCIL TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED TAX RATE, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR, UH, SEPTEMBER THE 19TH, 19TH 2023, ALONG WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE, UH, TAX RATE.
IF THE TAX ADOPT, IF THE ADOPTED TAX RATE IS HIGHER THAN THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, AN ELECTION WILL BE REQUIRED TO TAKE PLACE IN NOVEMBER OF 2023 TO APPROVE THE RATE.
THE RATE, UH, INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS NOT HIGHER THAN THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, SO, UH, NO VOTE WILL BE REQUIRED.
UM, THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, SUBMITTED BY STAFF WILL REQUIRE A RATE OF, WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER AGAIN?
UH, FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 AND 24, THE ADOPTED RATE IS, UH, IN TWO PARTS.
THE FIRST PART CONSISTS OF A RATE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION COST OF 0.53485, PLUS THE RATE NEEDED TO PAY DEBT SERVICES COSTS OF 0.18167.
THE 2020 3 24 TAX RATE FOR INS AND M AND O WOULD TOTAL IS IS 0.65 CENTS LESS THAN THE FISCAL YEAR 23, 22 23 RATE.
UM, THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND TOTAL TAX RATE OF 68.51 CENTS, UH, FOR A VALUATION OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS VALUATION, UH, WITH 50.35 CENTS FOR A HUNDRED VALUATION FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION AND THE 18.61 CENTS HUNDRED VALUATION FOR THE DEBT.
AT THIS TIME, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE A RECORD VOTE OF THE PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 0.6 8 5 0 9 2 FOR THE 20 23 24, UH, BUDGET AND SET THE, UH, DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET TO BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2023, AS WELL AS SET THE DATE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE TAX RATE TO BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER THE 19TH, 2023.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MS. OLIVER.
COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE TAKE A RECORD VOTING RE REMEMBER, THIS WILL REQUIRE A HAND VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER RAPHAEL, THIS IS A REDUNDANT QUESTION.
SO CITY MANAGER WRIGHT, IN LIGHT OF THE LEARNINGS WE HAD LAST NIGHT AND, AND THE TAX RATE THAT WE'RE RECEIVING TONIGHT, WHICH IS LOWER, UM, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR OUR BUDGET? YEP.
SO, UH, CONSISTENT WITH THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD YESTERDAY, UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, TO EQUALIZE THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE DISCUSSED IN OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS, WE NEEDED TO SHIFT SOME OF THE TAX RATE OVER FROM, FROM OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION FUND, WHICH IS THE GENERAL FUND OVER TO OUR INS RATE, OR IINS RATE, WHICH IS OUR DEBT SERVICE FUND.
UM, BY DOING SO, WE TOOK ABOUT $3.4 MILLION WORTH OF EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND PUT IT OVER INTO A DEBT CATEGORY.
AND, AND WE WILL BE BRINGING TO YOU THAT WE'LL DISCUSS IT ON SEPTEMBER 5TH.
YOU'LL BE, UH, VOTING ON IT ON SEPTEMBER 19TH ON THAT $3.4 MILLION ONE YEAR TAX NOTES THAT WILL ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THAT EQUIPMENT AND THOSE VEHICLES, AND THEN TO BE REPAID FOR, FROM THAT INS RATE, UH, FOR IT.
SO ESSENTIALLY, UH, THIS RATE OF, UH, 68.50 CENTS ROUGHLY, UH, IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, UH, GET THE REVENUE THAT WE NEED TO, UH, TO PAY FOR THE BUDGETS THAT WE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL BACK DURING OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS IN JULY.
WITH ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE DECISIONS WE MADE THERE.
RIGHTS WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ADDING THE FIVE POLICE OFFICERS, THE VEHICLES TO BE REPLACED, OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS ARE
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INCLUDED WITHIN THAT PROPOSED BUDGET.COUNCIL, IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED? SECOND.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RAPHAEL, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BY TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
UH, MS. THOMAS, CAN YOU ASSIST US WITH THE HAND VOTE? YES, MA'AM.
MAYOR, I APPROACH HIM LETITIA HUGHES, COUNCIL MEMBER CRYSTAL CHISHOLM? YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER DYNA MARKS MAYOR RACHEL PROCTOR.
COUNCIL MEMBER NICOLE RAPHAEL? YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER PER PARKER? YES.
THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF OUR ITEMS ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA, HOWEVER, WE
[I. EXECUTIVE SESSION AND RESULTING POTENTIAL ACTION]
DO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, UM, AT THIS TIME.MS. THOMAS, I'LL GIVE IT OVER TO YOU FOR THAT READING.
THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 51 0.072 FOR THE PURPOSE OF DELIBERATIONS REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE, OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY, GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE HAMPTON ROAD RE REDEVELOPMENT AREA IN ANY ACTION AS A RESULT.
UH, WE WILL NOW CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE WILL RETURN, UM, ONCE THAT CONCLUDES WITH ANY POSSIBLE ACTION, SHOULD THERE BE ANY.
WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IT IS, UH, 10:31 PM COUNSEL, IS THERE A MOTION? THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A PURCHASE SALE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY.
MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH LOCATED AT ONE 15 WEST BELTLINE ROAD, DESOTO, TEXAS.
IS THERE A SECOND? ONE SECOND.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MAYOR PROTE.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARKER TO APPROVE AS STATED.
THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AT THIS TIME COUNSEL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MARK, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BY TO ADJOURN.
THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNSEL, WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED.
IT IS 10 30, 10 30 3:00 PM YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.